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low_contrast_black

The so-called pundits shall preach. That’s the way of things. But at this point, why not just reach for a Magic 8-Ball? Now pundits aside, I look out and I see steadily growing acceptance of bit as not “just another rug-pull crypto scam”. We’re starting to see institutional adoption, and might even see large (perhaps even aggressive) nation-state adoption before year’s end. This is all bullish. Regular crusty retail investors are gonna lag behind - that’s just the way of things. But eventually, we’ll start to hit critical mass. My thought is that when we do hit critical mass, we’ll experience a violent repricing (maybe not THE God Candle, but along those lines). Personally, I plan my finances not expecting GC any time soon, but I’m also very willing to say “yup, I’m gonna pop smoke and go live on my own terms” if it does pop in the near future.

Legitimate_Towel6291

Its VELO, very rarely does an opportunity come along like this one. Binance has been stacking it for a year now so a listing there is imminent. (https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/account/GC5LF63GRVIT5ZXXCXLPI3RX2YXKJQFZVBSAO6AUELN3YIMSWPD6Z6FH) click on the VELO box top right and you can clearly see they are still stacking it daily.l

elliottelijah

Bitcoin was great when you could trade it on 100x leverage. But now that most countries took leverage out of the market you have to trade on 1x. Stocks give you 3x. The futures markets give you 300-400x when you use a brokerage like amp. Even the gold GC contract is way better to trade with super high leverage and quick moves. Basically- for traders who like to efficiently use their capital: Bitcoin is the worst game in town inside the US and many other countries. This is the opposite of what Bitcoin used to be back in the late teens and even right around COVID. Doesn’t mean it won’t and can’t move but it no longer does so regularly and with excitement. It would be great if the CME product had liquidity but it doesn’t and the liquidity and slippage is terrible - so until it’s tradable for traders it will just be a slow asset for those who don’t have access to a Bybit or another 100x plus leveraged exchange. It’s sad. I loved old levered fast moving emotional Bitcoin but so it goes.

Chris-G-O

Blockchain / Hashgraph tech aside, what really impressed me was Hedera's clarity: ***with*** the SEC from Day-1 (instead of against it), clear and public contracts between Hedera and GC members, etc (\*). PLUS ... $400,000,000 set aside for dApp development and tech adoption. Honestly, I can't find another DLT Use & Utility project comparing to this. \----------- (\*) It's all on their website, btw.

sonofsatan13

You can spin the wheel for free, daily. 5 sats are better than no sats. Part of a an overall strategy, regardless if rewards are no longer as robust as they used to be, still use it for funding purchases via gift cards. Gonna buy something at REI (or any other merchant they have a partnership with, ie, Amazon, etc), buy gift card first, get rewards for the purchase, then drop the GC into my account. Easy. There may be other, better ways of doing this, but stacking sats is quite easy to do there. Will occasionally buy sats in app, also easy, can move them out if thats what u need to do.

Vergeingonold

Not all meme coins are bad [GPP](https://x.com/harl_vann/status/1891452648638824883?s=46&t=GC7YBM5n_guJmiIhPJ10IA)

Vergeingonold

Not all meme coins are bad [GPP](https://x.com/harl_vann/status/1891452648638824883?s=46&t=GC7YBM5n_guJmiIhPJ10IA)

Aconyminomicon

Well Chainlink Labs is on the GC for Hedera right?

rynomoore

Some electricians are super neat and clean. I am not one of them. But if the GC puts a priority on it, they demand that of the foremen from each trade, and that flows downhill to the apprentices, who are required to put their tools away 20 minutes early each day and clean and tidy everything until quitting time.

woop_woop_pull_upp

You guys just dont get it, do you? "It's a big club and you ain't in it" -GC

HeadlessHolofernes

This is nonsense and you haven't done a minimum of research on Hedera. In the Hedera network every node has an equal vote on every consensus. You can't just open this system from the beginning because you'd easily be flooded with malicious nodes and there's the mathematical threshold of 33% of malicious nodes that a decentralized network can sustain. This goes for every DLT. But while Hedera involves all nodes in the consensus process, all other networks only involve a tiny fraction of their nodes, depending either on their mining power or on their stake or on a leader. Both makes them by far more centralized than Hedera and most even prone to DOS attacks. They're not aBFT which is the actual game changer. Hedera will slowly roll out community nodes (still permissioned) soon after the GC has been filled. Then the permissionless journey will start. The focus of this process is to maintain a maximum of decentralization of the consensus in proportion to the network size as to keep the network safe. No single entity with no matter how many nodes shall ever control more than 2.5% of the network's consensus process. Also, the nodes are distributed over the whole world (not just "2-3 data centers"). Decentralization is the hardest part, but Hedera is the only network taking this step seriously.

oak1337

Chainlink has been a Governing Council Member for a few years. Not gonna lie, they've been abysmal as a GC member. Never show up to meetings, hadn't done anything for years. Glad they finally started to. Hopefully more to come.

Marshreddit

My brother what is $HBAR. Haha nah there was an announcement today of [NVIDIA using Hedera with Intel and EQTYLabs for a GPUs to be recording agentic AI workflows on the ledger.](https://np.reddit.com/r/Hedera/comments/1hh61bs/today_eqty_lab_nvidia_and_intel_have_unveiled/) but true degens the first form of memepump has come to Hedera the past few days (lol 6 months later). If you do ape in, there's a whole utility layer of HTS tokens and then meme coins. everything is bleeding anyway and news/GC updates never move PA positively anyway.

viscolex

Tree in a Cat team are making all the right moves! Listed on GC, CMC , Moontok already... Getting listed on BitMart in 2 days!!!! This is going places, no doubt.

zilvrado

how hefty is it? I'm on visa and i'm seeing it as one perk of not getting a GC.

Hbarf

I did in my above comment if you need **Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

Hbarf

**Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

oak1337

Buy something real for God sakes. Imagine investing in beanie babies! All roads lead to Hedera Hashgraph (HBAR). **Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

oak1337

Not at all. Hedera Hashgraph has been pumping. **Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

oak1337

Step one, go to your app store and download Hashpack. Step two, go to Coinbase or whatever your CEX is and buy HBAR. Step three, transfer HBAR to that wallet and stake to a node (liquid, no risk). **Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

oak1337

Hedera is superior to all. All roads lead to Hedera in the end. **Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

oak1337

You must learn what is King in crypto. Utility. Doge has no utility, Solana and Cardano have limited utilities, and XRP has one utility (banking). A coin which has every utility and is best in all aspects is Hedera HBAR. **Decentralized -** Equal consensus power among all nodes. Transparent and equal governance among all (up to) 39 GC members. Governance separate from consensus. Entire codebase is open source and was donated to the Linux Foundation **Fair -** Leaderless fair ordering. All transactions travel at exponential speed into the network, whoever reaches the majority first gets ordered first. No centralized "block leaders" who order your transactions. No MEV. No sniping trades. No bullshit. You'll soon learn ANY chain (99.99%) with a block leader is inferior to this model. **Fixed fees/Infinite Scalability -** Any chain (99.99%) that have their fees as a percentage of their coin price are inherently designed not to scale. This acts as a throttle to slow the network. Hedera is fixed fees priced in USD. It's the only chain actually designed to scale infinitely. **Security -** Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance is the highest security possible for a decentralized system. Hedera is the ONLY chain to achieve this highest possible form of security, and add in that it's SHA384 quantum proof. **True finality -** Most chains only reach Probabilistic Finality, meaning that they only become "more sure over time" (99% sure) that your transaction went through and is validated. Hedera comes to full consensus and reaches True Finality in under 3 seconds, meaning the transaction is 100% finalized. **Carbon negative -** Because Hashgraph is so efficient it uses the least amount of energy of any chain, and therefore has the lowest carbon footprint of any chain. Hedera then purchases carbon credits to make the network Carbon Negative. Greenest chain. I could go on but there's a good start for ya.

Ricola63

1. Yes. A sybil attack on BTC is hard to do. My issue with them is the Governance Structure. Who knows who decides what? What we do know is there are about 6 Miners who produce the vast majority of blocks. Who are they? I don\`t know, I bet you don\`t know. But I\`ll bet the US, Russia, China and others know. Who\`s to say they are not the owners/ controllers of those miners? Those miners have an outsized say in what happens to the network, how and why. And they are responsible to no one. 2. With ETH, you think that there are thousands more like you around the world. Really? How do we know there aren\`t thousands of N. Korean Government Nodes in server farms around the world? And come to that, how do we know there isn\`t a N. Korean treasury holding huge volumes of ETH in thousands of wallets? We don\`t. 3. At least with Hedera we know there are 32 Entities, each with a hugely valuable reputation to protect, each with just one Vote, Geographically dispersed (Every Continent except Antarctica I believe), dispersed by time (Each GC Member is time limited), dispersed by ISP, dispersed by Industry. And we know what they think and why, and how they vote, because the meeting minutes are published. I disagree with your premise that its \`easy to compromise\`. First of all, because of the transparency its very, very unlikely that N. Korea could manoeuvre the GC into anything. Nothing is impossible, but with voting on any decision required it would mean a full, open transparent discussion explaining why and how things were being done.. Even if say the US Government were to pressure 32 massive entities (many not US based) to bend to their will, that information would be widely shared before anything happened, which is about the best you can hope for. Nothing is perfect. But of the 3 scenarios I know which I have much more faith in.

And-he-war-haul

Please send in GC only.

Marshreddit

Dr. Leemon is why I got into HBAR, definitely not alone on that within the community on X (which is where I spend most my time and arguably because the community is stronger/less resistance there and dialogue and haven't peeped the HBAR sub in a bit). Although the Space X rumors are from a known schizophrenic (his words) in the community, last I checked. Haven't checked in a week or two and I have him blocked as he's literally the only bad person I'd consider I've interacted within Hedera and people I've met IRL. He's been around before and said to have connections to google, was trying to sue other X users lmao, but I'll have to go back and check about any recent news. That being said, we still have a few GC seats to fill...though historically any GC announcement that seems super awesome (and probably is). I know there's a really interesting GIS / DeFI project called Neuron I haven't checked but seemed legit, quasi similar. I could be wrong and sure I am overtime with the Space X thing tho. just FYI

Aconyminomicon

Nano is just a DAG. It is cool and efficient, but there are already systems in place for merchants to receive payments without redoing their whole system. XRP, LTC, XLM are all up because of the ETF applications. But you forget a sleeping giant. It is Hedera Hashgraph and it takes the best parts of Nano (which I was in last cycle until it dropped off), speed and cheap FIXED fees (0.001$), and it is basically a complicated DAG (Hashgraph) and they patented a G2G protocol (now open source) on top of the hashgraph to make it far more appealing to institutions than Nano. It also has better security and a Governing Counsel of not just a few insiders, but the largest companies in the world like Google, Boieng IBM, LG, and other equally giant financial institutions all around the world. This way, people can use the tech and have the security knowing that the GC of Hedera is the decentralized part. Companies that are worth many billions and have been around for a long time and have name recognition are your validators and run the nodes. It was invented by adult geniueses and not college freshman like ADA, DOT, and ETH. Check the hbar/usd chart if you want to see.

yuiawta

What’s the GC for? Happy to help out if it’s something I could use

BamBam_postal

I hear ya that’s why I didn’t try and post my referral. A buddy of mine was doing it for a year or so and had amassed over a million sats off spins and GC purchases. Any sats a good sat.

inShambles3749

Aka Solana bought GC space and hosts their garbage over there. "Partnership" my ass

ExpressAd8749

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Mother_Wolverine_577

I’ve been looking into privacy developments recently. But I’m honestly a little confused with the different technologies being used and whether some methods have more merit than others such as zero-knowledge (ZK) proofs vs homomorphic encryption (FHE) vs Garbled Circuits (GC). Maybe someone with a more technical background could explain the differences.

call-the-wizards

[https://imgur.com/a/IyxE5GC](https://imgur.com/a/IyxE5GC)

Realistic_Nobody4829

HBAR/Hedera all day long. Ignore the moronic fudsters and take a look at the GC and RWA use cases being built right now.

IHaventEvenGotADog

Half an hour in and nobody has fallen for the sneaky plan yet. Sub full of legit GC's

RowingBoatDownStream

https://youtu.be/bBC-nXj3Ng4?si=IyXBG_jNhkY5GC_T

dundolo

https://youtu.be/GC4Pyt2HPd4?si=UaVFDYeADW6UKfX9

PastaArt

Update: Been using the Walmart cards through the app. It is a bit confusing, but you have to select the payment option at checkout if you have multiple cards (CC, DC, or GC). Also, if you need more than just one card, Sam's Club GC's and Walmart GC's are interchangeable. Bonus: Using the Walmart app allows you to buy Sam's Club gas.

1541drive

> BitRefill is probably what you're looking for though It is and it was amazingly fast, simple and without the fees the larger GC stores charge.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

I’m thinking Hedera is involved here. There was some news leaked a few days ago from a private meeting in NYC where Citi was presenting on the topic “building the future of finance on Hedera” alongside Hedera GC members Abrdn and AP+ (look them up)

Kraker58

Okay, Currently limited to 500 for Visa GC acquisition.. But i can use it at Gas Stations? How would i do that? Do i get the clerk to type in the Card Number? I reckon i could just use a Visa GC!

HeadlessHolofernes

>While it is indeed more performant than a blockchain, it is way more resource intensive and expensive to sustain, requiring a level of centralization ultimately by design. Hashgraph is way more resource intensive than even Solana... it can only exist through centralized-managed subsidies. The only consensus nodes that are running on the entire network are ran by the Corporations that are part of the Governing Council (*and this needs to stay like this almost by design, because one of the critical pieces of the Hashgraph algorithm is that all nodes need to know how many nodes exist in the network at any given time in order to finalize transactions*). This is only partially correct. Currently there are only few nodes allowed as it would be inefficient to have more nodes for the relatively small amount of tps. The number of nodes will grow with an increase of sustained tps while maintaining efficiency and security. There's a tipping point when the number of nodes doesn't really affect efficiency or security anymore. That's the point when permissionless nodes will come into play. But that's probably only when we're in the millions of tps which is most probably still a few decades in the future. As long as the number of nodes and the tps are balanced, Hedera is by far the most efficient ledger. Hedera has a clear path to decentralization and becoming permissionless. But that's a marathon, not a sprint. Yes, they could switch to being permissionless almost in an instant. But that would make the network horribly unsustainable. You would have hundreds of thousands of nodes for very few tps, just like Bitcoin, Ethereum or Solana. But that's nonsense for just feeding a flawed narrative of decentralization. Each of those networks has their very own way of defining "decentralization". Just think of pools, core devs, VCs, governance, mining equipment manufacturers etc. Hedera has its own way of defining "decentralization", too, but at least they're transparent about it - and I find their definition a lot more convincing than what blockchains keep silent about when they claim that they were decentralized. >Also, Hashgraph is not fully open-source... only part of it was released by Hashgraph Council after they purchased the patent from Swirlds, Inc (*company that created HBAR which, of course, is primary member of the Council*). We can only speculate on what the tech can do and what it requires based on real-world tests/results/analytics, but you can't actually firmly tell what the code does because it's intentionally not released in full. That's misinformed. Hashgraph is fully open source. [Here's the git.] (https://github.com/hashgraph) Feel free to copy their code and set up a private hashgraph network. It has always been open for review, by the way. So, you could always check the code from the beginning, just not copy and use (like Fantom did with an old and deprecated version of hashgraph). So, this basically invalidates your points: >It's not quite public, it's not really an open distributed tech.... so does it really qualify as a Public Distributed Ledger Technology? It's of course public, although not permissionless. The tech has always been open for review and is now open source, can be copied and studied and altered and used by anyone. You just don't have the GC and the regulatory compliance when you set up another public network with the same tech. The transparent and professional governance is an asset that makes Hedera usable for enterprise and industry use cases in the first place. No sensible enterprise (or government) would build mission critical applications on a public ledger where the governance of the ledger is in any way unclear. >I hope this answers your question and curiosities. It shows me where there's still education needed.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

Wait a second…you don’t really think you need to be on the governing council to use the network, do you? lol! So basically you have no idea what you’re talking about and are just repeating things you think you heard other people say. Do better. I know much more about Ethereum than you do about Hedera, yet look at how sure of yourself you are. Hedera is a public network which anyone can use. The governing council are validators of the network. IBM is deeply building on Hedera by the way; check the Hedera November GC meeting minutes (!) and you will see IBM presented a comprehensive identity solution called DICE, built on Hedera, targeted to governments and enterprises. So yeah. Do more research. Zoom out. And keep in mind that BlackRock hasn’t even done anything on Ethereum except put some money there. It takes years and years for enterprise use cases to go live. You are missing the trend. Hundreds of enterprises are building on Hedera. What do you think will happen when they go live. atma.io was just early - the flood is coming.

Xertviya

How to find the coins that are going to x 100, x 1000's?? I am on CMC. All coins, 24 hour percentage, 9000-couple hundred percent agins on coins. All the time. I realize they largely are pump and dumps and all sorts of shenanigans. However. We are all degenerates. I am in pancakeswap, uniswap, Solflare, trying to get more exposure. How do you find these gems BEFORE they pop? Talking about you GC, PIGGY, PMA, Catceo?? I watch Cmc as said but already too late most times. Anyfeed back appreciated.

Xertviya

How to find the coins that are going to x 100, x 1000's?? I am on CMC. All coins, 24 hour percentage, 9000-couple hundred percent agins on coins. All the time. I realize they largely are pump and dumps and all sorts of shenanigans. However. We are all degenerates. I am in pancakeswap, uniswap, Solflare, trying to get more exposure. How do you find these gems BEFORE they pop? Talking about you GC, PIGGY, PMA, Catceo?? I watch Cmc as said but already too late most times. Anyfeed back appreciated.

clicksanything

> in march 17, 2014 GC=F was $1,336. Same day 10yrs later is $2,150. That is hardly stagnant friend. Okay ya got me, it increased 60%. But you didnt finish my sentence. “price has been largely the same over the past decade *against rampant inflation*" For Gold to serve as a good store of value, it must also be able to retain it's purchasing power against inflation in fiat terms, usually over a long period of time. And when we look at Gold from this perspective its pretty clear that it has not done a good job at protecting its owner from monetary debasement. I mean just look at a chart of GLD against the M2 for last 40 years. It doesnt even come close to its prev ATH in the 2000s. An asset that normally retain its value over time means nothing until you measure it against rate of monetary debasement which is real inflation, and Gold has not done a very good job of that.

Fish_OuttaWater

“price has been largely the same over the past decade” is wholly inaccurate … in march 17, 2014 GC=F was $1,336. Same day 10yrs later is $2,150. That is hardly stagnant friend. You did done forget that Gold is a mirror for inflation… so when it goes up in value, is when the economy is tanking. Sure it does not grow in such astronomical ways that BTC does, but they are NOT the same - so why bother comparing.

hateballrollin

Check coingecko...it was initially offered to GC candy holders who could prebuy with their candies

Perfect_Ability_1190

Exxon, Chevron, schliumberger, Saudi Aramci, and more,.. one use case is enough to blow the top off Hedera. This alone explains Dell joining the GC. If this gets the traction it appears to have the sky is the limit.

Perfect_Ability_1190

ServiceNow, Hugging Face, and NVIDIA have teamed up to release StarCoder2, a revolutionary family of open-access large language models (LLMs) designed for code generation. This groundbreaking collaboration marks a significant milestone in advancing the capabilities of generative Al for enterprise applications. Servicenow is one of the GC of Hedera, and EQTY Lab's Al Integrity Suite is preparing to expand its software to serve thousands of clients in the Fortune 100 at Accenture's Al lab in Brussels, and together with Hugging Face, we are unveiling ClimateGPT, an Al integrity framework that leverages the hedera public ledger (HCS).

Popenga3000

You need to leave for 11 from 12 month when you are not a us citizen and don’t have a green card. You need to leave the US and have to proof that you never planned to come back. Quitting jobs and give up GC included. In the next fiscal year you can come back and start from the scratch. So if you don’t save an incredibly amount of taxes it is a bad idea. If you don’t have kids and want to travel for a year without getting residency anywhere else that’s good idea. Good luck.

poginmydog

I’m talking about after leaving the States as GC takes like 2 (or 3?) years to even expire and you’ll need to make a declaration to renounce the GC (I think?).

DRosado20

Holy shit now you’re talking about transaction types and revenue lol. Last comment cause you’re not making any sense. This was the original statement you and the other guy couldn’t prove "many GC members use the chain". Keyword: “Use”. They don’t. We all know they don’t and ya’ll can’t can’t show the public transactions that prove otherwise.

DRosado20

You haven’t shown anything. I think the keyword you don’t seem to get is *using*. Being a GC member, announcing a partnership, announcement a launch, publishing a research paper, making partnerships, creating a POC, organizing a hackathon…None of these are *using* the chain. The chain is only *used* with transactions. And yes, transactions are required to consider someone a user. If they are not transacting on the network, they’re not using it. Such a simple concept.

bendy1234587

>Back in reality, atma is literally the only GC member actually using the chain, **Literally not reality** as shown - even if you want to believe it and will do anything to avoid admitting your statement is incorrect. Back in reality there isn't some arbitrary amount of transactions which have to be cleared to be considered using the network, no matter how you try and justify your position.

DRosado20

No it’s not. Go to the “Enterprise Applications” section and open up a couple of the options. There are a bunch of press releases not related to application launches, case studies of hypothetical use cases, and a couple of announcements of products “in production”…that are not generating transactions. Let me remind you again, the statement the other person made was "many GC members use the chain". - DLA piper - Where is the activity? - LG Art Labs - Not actually LG, but a small experimentation lab. Anyways lets count them for fun. Where is the activity? - abdrn - Where is the activity? Again, if you define GC members doing a transaction a month as “using the chain”, then yeah, feel good about that. Back in reality, atma is literally the only GC member actually using the chain, and it’s completely subsidized.

DRosado20

I'm not asking for a link with logos and names. I'm asking for products in production that have been announced by GC members that are generating on chain transactions. Let me remind you, the statement the other person made was "many GC members use the chain". Ya'll are commenting with anything except proof. The entire point of blockchains is transparency. It shouldn't be this hard. Perhaps the proof doesn't exist because the statement is not true?

DRosado20

You said many GC members use the chain. I’m only asking for proof. It’s an extremely simple ask. Every data point proves the opposite. If Hedera is only doing 10 TPS excluding atma, and there are at least a hundred non-GC members using the chain (should be higher according to your sub) and GC members are all mostly big enterprises, then the lack of activity proves they are in fact not using the chain. It’s not that complicated. None of them have announced that projects are in production, and none of them have the transactions to indicate they have a project in production. You said many GCs are actually using the chain, when the data proves otherwise. So it’s simple, prove it. > I only say that Hedera is making inroads to adoption by the types of companies that could use this technology. You’re not only saying that. Your literal comment was: > This is not true many GC members use the chain but only one does at the enterprise level. No one is asking you to shut the fuck up. On the contrary, we want you to provide evidence of your statements. Please do.

Afterlife123

This is not true many GC members use the chain but only one does at the enterprise level. But this is good for crypto. They are taking a serious look. All of crypto benefits from this.

HBAR_10_DOLLARS

It’s a straightforward thought process. Think about this: 1. Is public blockchain technology useful to enterprises and will see mass adoption? I believe so 2. Then, which chain will be mass adopted by enterprises? All signs point to Hedera (this is a fact, especially for US enterprises). It’s the only network that ticks all the boxes. Every other chain has multiple radioactive properties that prevent enterprises from adopting it (their words, not mine). You can verify this yourself. Check out Hedera’s news from 2023 and then compare it with the rest of the market. 3. Now, will investing in Hedera pay off? I believe so. More transactions means more HBAR burned, and more transactions means more nodes are required (community and anonymous nodes will be added), meaning more HBAR locked up. The price is designed to increase naturally. What do you think the price will do when they are doing hundreds of thousands of TPS? Millions? Supply increase won’t happen. It requires 100% of the GC members to approve and swirlds labs themselves are a permanent no vote. It would be easier to get it voted on Bitcoin or ETH. Moons is a terrible example and just shows you don’t understand the ethos behind the Hedera governing council. Know why? Because Reddit is a centralized single company. I don’t trust reddit. I don’t trust Google, who is a GC member. Leemon the inventor of Hashgraph says the same thing. But, you don’t need to trust any one company. That’s the point of the GC.

hellprism

We had a golden cross on the weekly chart last weeks candle. We are only 1 week into GC,& we are 1 week into etfs which have shattered all records. I am super bullish,we also just hat top indicator signal go off which precedes a top by weeks at most.

HeadlessHolofernes

Read again where those GC members come from. Few are actually from the US.

jekpopulous2

I’ve been building dapps for almost 7 years now but ok… I have no clue what I’m talking about. I’ve been studying DAGs (Hashgraph included) since like 2017. HBAR is decent tech. They just never decentralized. You’re admitting yourself that the GC controls all the nodes. I really don’t understand what your argument here is.

jekpopulous2

You don’t get it. So long as all the validators are permissioned it doesn’t matter if they keep adding more. The Governing Counsel controls those too. To decentralize… there would need to be community nodes controlling >33% of the network… bare minimum. You could argue that those community nodes are on the way but until then the GC is in full control of the network.

Unhappy-Speaker315

Yeah the one that made the money on volatility…GC

Cakee7837436

P2P or regular swap (GC, PayPal, transfer etc for Bitcoin)

_weAreAllSatoshi

I’ve [just posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/s/sOl66GC3tG) pretty much the same thing as you! I know how it feels. I’m hopeful we get a few more dips and will pause DCAing and stack fiat to smash buy if the price is right. If the price doesn’t come back down a bit, then I’ll resume DCAing.

jeeptopdown

1) I don’t know why you are getting so upset? 2) There are a number of banks on the Hedera GC. In other words, they own the Hedera network. Shinhan Bank - they have run an international remittance pilot on Hedera - [Shinhan pilot](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/shinhan-bank-scb-techx-and-other-financial-institutions-successfully-complete-second-stablecoin-remittances-pilot-on-the-hedera-network-301877894.html) Standard Bank - also working with stable coins and tokenization of green bonds on Hedera - [Stable coins](https://www.ledgerinsights.com/shinhan-standard-bank-trial-stablecoin-cross-border-payments-on-hedera-dlt/) [Green bonds](https://flagship.fyi/outposts/dapps/hederas-guardian-paving-the-way-for-a-greener-future-in-carbon-credits/) [Nomura Bank from Japan](https://www.ledgerinsights.com/hedera-hashgraph-deutsche-telekom-nomura-swisscom-governance/) And [DBS Bank](https://www.ledgerinsights.com/dbs-bank-joins-governing-council-of-dlt-hedera-hashgraph/)

jeeptopdown

Hedera is a public network that is the adult in the room. As it gets off the ground all the nodes are permissioned and run by the Governing Council. The GC owns the network as an LLC registered in the US. The GC is currently made up of 29 world leading companies and universities including Boeing, Google, Abrdn (the fund tokenizing their assets), Dell, University College London, Avery Dennison, Service Now…and more. They are term limited in their role on the GC to avoid consolidation of power over time. The network is currently running 1 billion transactions every 4-5 days - mainly on the first enterprise use case being utilized in supply chain tracking by atma.io (an Avery Dennison company). It’s the only crypto I hold because the rest are a giant cesspool of ponzi crap that you accurately describe.

Perfect_Ability_1190

Boeing is a Hedera GC member with high attendance and their second latest VC round was in Hedera, which followed the Boeing + SparkCognition partnership— creating SkyGrid. Maybe we’ll see something in 2024.

JohnHue

For those who might not know, [this is the fucking clown in the video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bh3ObPjcFE) [This one's not bad either.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_h_tz44uw) I'm not defending BlackRock, but taking anything that guy says without at least a huuuuge pinch of salt is a healthy thing, he's kind of a nutjob. He studies theatre and is a tv personality / broadcaster who just happened to buy a lot of BTC and is feeling like the king of the world because of it but really, he mostly doesn't know what he's talking about...

SubstantialOption410

No reason to stay here before it wasn’t. Would I have found out about KUJI in this GC?

oroechimaru

Seems like a crap article it didnt “crash” https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GC=F/

jeeptopdown

Hedera (HBAR) is leading the way to real world enterprise adoption. Currently running at 2300 tps tracking supply chains for an Avery Dennison company called Atma.io. Also in the offing for the next 12-18 months… The Coupon Bureau Dropp Banksocial Hyundai Neuron (probably not fully operational, but should gain some clarity in that time frame) ESG ecosystem (Guardian) WorldPay ServiceNow Maybe a GC or two (that everyone in the know seem pretty excited about) Community nodes Happy to answer questions about any of the upcoming developments. I’ll grab some relevant links and add them.

Perfect_Ability_1190

Any serious L1 platform requires some entity to take some level of responsibility for the planning, direction or security of the platform in question and there are an assortment of models for achieving this. Decentralization Governance - who makes decisions about the code base, the security infrastructure, the Tokenomics and/or the direction a platform will implement. Various models exist for this, on different platforms but they all rely on a grouping of interested parties to make these decisions. Some do it on the basis of who owns more Tokens, others on the basis of members of special elite groups of users... Hedera has done it by inviting multiple major corporations/ educational establishments to take an equal share of this control (each for a limited time period / each from a different geographic location / each from a different industry / each with a global reputation to protect and each with an interest in achieving a usable, trustable platform from which trust can be derived. So, for example this means that whilst the team of Contributors / Coders / Devs. -Those who actually write the code and comes up with requirements for the platform go through an open and shared process for inclusion or otherwise. The GC ultimately decides which features go in or don't and which version of code is actually applied, but they do so on the basis of the shared opinions of multiple experts (from each of the GC members -or at least a subset of them). Another example might be the way the Tokenomics are managed and controlled. We very recently had a decision on staking rewards, made by Financial experts from across the GC. No matter what decision gets made on a network it is often controversial, but at least in this scenario we can be reasonably sure that no one party is mischieviously directing the platform in a direction to their specific benefit, at least not without the agreement of several other highly qualified experts who understand the ramifications of each decision in depth. Decentralization extends into the community itself. Who provides the code, who utilises the platform, who shares an interest in its functionality or success. By having transparency on decision making and multiple parties governing plus an established process of feature requests this decentralization is enabled to thrive, which indeed it is. Decentralization of the Consensus. Obviously Trust is at the core of Level 1 (and many level 2) The trust Hedera provides is partly built into the technology itself. Achieving consensus, at low cost and high speed is a fundamental component of the networks functionality. Today that consensus is achieved through the 28 Nodes owned and run by the organisations on the GC. Within a short period of time (perhaps a year) that will be extended to probably 100 plus community nodes. Eventually such consensus will come from thousands of known and unknown Nodes. It's a process. Some 'hard core' crypto enthusiasts view the current level of 29 Nodes with suspicion (even hate). They do so on three fronts. For one, they say that Hedera will never achieve the speed of consensus across thousands of nodes. Well, time will tell for sure but I wouldnt bet against Leemon and the team. I think they have that aspect well in hand. Second they say they don't trust 29 Global Enterprises to fairly manage consensus. My personal response to that would be 'then don't use it'. But plenty of people and corporations are happy to leverage the consensus provided by multiple global organisations with billions of $'s in reputation to protect and huge teams of experts that can truly check the quality of the infrastructure in place. I would also add that the use of Mirror nodes, nodes which enable a full and detailed picture of exactly what has happened on the platform adds a deeper layer of trust which many find very useful. The final reason hard core Crypto enthusiasts view the Hedera model with suspicion is they consider Global Enterprises managing the platform as an anathema. They believe Decentralization should be about moving away from these big enterprises 'centralised organisations'. And here is Hedera inviting the Fox into the Henhouse and inviting them to run the show. My response to this is that first of all, they are experts at this kind of thing and while certainly no enterprise can be trusted completely, such a diverse and austere gathering is likely a far better option than ALL others I have looked at. If you want professionals delivering the benefit of their expertise, if you want no one person/small group of people, to manage the network, often in perpetuity, then there are other platform models of governance. Personally none of them come close to delivering the confidence I have in Hedera. For the reasons above I personally rate Hederas Decentralization ABOVE all other platforms I have looked at (even today with just 28 Nodes). The addition of further nodes (and the remaining GC Members) for me is jur* icing on the cake.

Perfect_Ability_1190

Decentralization Governance - who makes decisions about the code base, the security infrastructure, the Tokenomics and/or the direction a platform will implement. Various models exist for this, on different platforms but they all rely on a grouping of interested parties to make these decisions. Some do it on the basis of who owns more Tokens, others on the basis of members of special elite groups of users... Hedera has done it by inviting multiple major corporations/ educational establishments to take an equal share of this control (each for a limited time period / each from a different geographic location / each from a different industry / each with a global reputation to protect and each with an interest in achieving a usable, trustable platform from which trust can be derived. So, for example this means that whilst the team of Contributors / Coders / Devs. -Those who actually write the code and comes up with requirements for the platform go through an open and shared process for inclusion or otherwise. The GC ultimately decides which features go in or don't and which version of code is actually applied, but they do so on the basis of the shared opinions of multiple experts (from each of the GC members -or at least a subset of them). Another example might be the way the Tokenomics are managed and controlled. We very recently had a decision on staking rewards, made by Financial experts from across the GC. No matter what decision gets made on a network it is often controversial, but at least in this scenario we can be reasonably sure that no one party is mischieviously directing the platform in a direction to their specific benefit, at least not without the agreement of several other highly qualified experts who understand the ramifications of each decision in depth. Decentralization extends into the community itself. Who provides the code, who utilises the platform, who shares an interest in its functionality or success. By having transparency on decision making and multiple parties governing plus an established process of feature requests this decentralization is enabled to thrive, which indeed it is. Decentralization of the Consensus. Obviously Trust is at the core of Level 1 (and many level 2) The trust Hedera provides is partly built into the technology itself. Achieving consensus, at low cost and high speed is a fundamental component of the networks functionality. Today that consensus is achieved through the 28 Nodes owned and run by the organisations on the GC. Within a short period of time (perhaps a year) that will be extended to probably 100 plus community nodes. Eventually such consensus will come from thousands of known and unknown Nodes. It’s a process. Some 'hard core' crypto enthusiasts view the current level of 29 Nodes with suspicion (even hate). They do so on three fronts. For one, they say that Hedera will never achieve the speed of consensus across thousands of nodes. Well, time will tell for sure but I wouldnt bet against Leemon and the team. I think they have that aspect well in hand. Second they say they don't trust 29 Global Enterprises to fairly manage consensus. My personal response to that would be 'then don't use it'. But plenty of people and corporations are happy to leverage the consensus provided by multiple global organisations with billions of $'s in reputation to protect and huge teams of experts that can truly check the quality of the infrastructure in place. I would also add that the use of Mirror nodes, nodes which enable a full and detailed picture of exactly what has happened on the platform adds a deeper layer of trust which many find very useful. The final reason hard core Crypto enthusiasts view the Hedera model with suspicion is they consider Global Enterprises managing the platform as an anathema. They believe Decentralization should be about moving away from these big enterprises 'centralised organisations'. And here is Hedera inviting the Fox into the Henhouse and inviting them to run the show. My response to this is that first of all, they are experts at this kind of thing and while certainly no enterprise can be trusted completely, such a diverse and austere gathering is likely a far better option than ALL others I have looked at. If you want professionals delivering the benefit of their expertise, if you want no one person/small group of people, to manage the network, often in perpetuity, then there are other platform models of governance. Personally none of them come close to delivering the confidence I have in Hedera. For the reasons above I personally rate Hederas Decentralization ABOVE all other platforms I have looked at (even today with just 28 Nodes). The addition of further nodes (and the remaining GC Members) for me is just icing on the cake.

MetaPhysicsOnlyPlz

iN-NOVATiVE. FEAR-LESS. iNiTi-ATiVE. (“INNOVATIVE FEARLESS INITIATIVE”) i-Fi.               Index     Foreword Digital Legend & Terminology   Introduction – Summary   Part  1 Example 1.0 (Benfords Law) Example 2.0 (Systematic Analogy)   Exchange Rate Business Rate Customer Exchange Rate   Transactions Transactional & Numerical Receipt (“.QUAN-TUM.SUPER-MACY.”) Example 3.0 (Time of Receipt) Example 4.0 (Terminology) Example 5.0 (Digital Legend) Example 6.0 (Coupon & Voucher Receipt) Example 7.0 (Customer & Business Receipt) Example 8.0 (Authorized Receipt – iFi Copy)   Services & Networks Cloud System Cloud Network Credit Network Data Network Market Network Physical Products Non/Physical Products & Services   Training & Learning Network Language + Communication & Co-Verse-Sation Education & Academia Paperback +Literacy & Publications Melody of Music Medical Health & Wellbeing   Future Prospects + Services & Products   Conclusion     Part 2 Company Business Model Company Hardware Devices Hardware Functionality Software Credit Transfer NFC   Cloud System Cloud Network Data Network Credit Network CSW – Credit Storage Wallet CSS – Credit Saving Scheme CCV – Credit Control Vault Future Goals & Strategy             Foreword   Over the past few years, I have dedicated my time building a combination of this Systematic, sustainable interlinking Networks.  The business itself is quiet unique, something that isn't out there, right now. The company provides increased and gradual growth of global markets, down to a single individual person.   Digital Legend & Terminology   N > Network S > System CS > Cloud System CN > Cloud Network DN > Data Network CN > Credit Network MN > Market Network   TLN > Training & Learning Education LCCvs > Language, Communication & Co-Verse-Sation EA> Education & Academia PLP > Paperback, Literacy & Publications M.o.M > Melody of Music M > Medical HW > Health & Wellbeing FP > Future Prospects   Crd > Credit Cur > Currency D > Data B > Barter E > Exchange EXr >  Exchange Rate HD > Hardware Device SD > Software Device C.B > Customer to Business C.C > Customer to Customer B.B > Business to Business B.C > Business to Customer RC > Registered Customer GC > Guest Customer   CC > Credit Controller CR > Credit Receiver DC > Data Controller DR > Data Receiver DA > Data Auction Dp >  Data Point DRv > Data Reserve DDP > Data DuD Pool CSW > Credit Control Vault CSS > Credit Control Scheme CCV > Credit Control Vault   C > Customer c > Coupon B > Business v > Voucher r > Receipt S > Service   pP > physical Product phD > physical Hardware Device N.NP > non/physical Product n.nP.S >  non/physical Product & Service Br > Business Receipt Tr > Transactional Receipt T > Transaction D/O > Digital/Online PoI > Points of Interest PoV > Point of View

Farkleton56

It’s space socialism. They won’t come out and say it because it’s the no no word but to argue otherwise is pointlessly obtuse. https://youtu.be/PV4Oze9JEU0?si=d5aw-wnak8ugh_GC

stockyewok

Cheers, I'll check it out. I've seen 1 on the GC, but be good to see how many more there are

sgtslaughterTV

https://youtu.be/GC_h_tz44uw?si=z1NGnBerLln_kHoi this clip

saschofield

Up for debate really. He's intelligent for sure but when he goes on a fanatical rant, Michael can say some pretty embarrassingly dumb $#!+. Other times he associates himself with even more fanatical people and you can see him questioning his decisions. Example: That Max Keiser "Fvck Elon!" Speech [YT - Max Keiser Screeching](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_h_tz44uw)

bvandepol

Thanks.. I did prefer GC already over CMC.. Are there other/better sources besides these two?

kazkdp

Ohhhh copy pasta game! I'm in. 1- what about the universites and other companies that on the GC? There is a term limit so after that they are out? What's wrong with model? At least Google isn't going to take 10 million bribe to f up the network, can you say the same about the magical core engineering teams working on other chains? 2- go back a year and @ 50tps people said it's one big entity that's doing all the tps. That was a advertising platform, now a bigger one has started using it and guess what, people saying it's only the new entity that's doing all the tps.... its a matter of time before another one takes over. When Hyundai and TCB comes online you will change the statement again.... everything is however slowly adding up. 3- let's pretend you made a amazing price of software. That's better then anything in the world. NASA jumps in and starts using your software. It takes years for for them to start using it to get their systems to integrate and train the people ... So is it your fault? What smoke and mirrors? Big usecaees such as the the coupon bureau is now finally live but the roll of this scale takes time, it's not just bunch of pictures a company decided to sell.... 4-Hedera made it public that the biggest eco system development fund of any crypto is going to change the industry and bring people in. They are doing just that, what wrong with incentives anyway? Its not like other companies and business don't do this in the real world? even other crypto dose this, mind you it all just comes back to the DLT as payments anyway! Its a win win. The point is to grow the whole web3 and crypto industry and go beyond monkey pictures.... 5- Eth can have 100,000 developers working on it or a million, point is everything can be done , cheaper and faster in a greener way on Hedera. Eth isn't going to die or get killed off because of the growth and current first mover advantage... however there has been many projects jumping ship to hedera and other DLTs. Its not however is going the other way....

kazkdp

1- what about the universites and other comparations that on the GC? There is a term limit so after that they are out? What's wrong with model? At least Google isn't going to take 10 million bribe to f up the network, can you say the same about the magical core engineering team working on other chains? 2- go back a year and the 50tps people said it's one big entity that's doing all the tps. That was a advertising platform, now a bigger one has started using it and guess what, people saying it's only the new entity that's doing all the tps.... its a matter of time before another one takes over. 3- let's pretend you made a amazing price of software. That's better then anything in the world. NASA jumps in and starts using your software. It takes years for for them to start using it to get their systems to integrate and train the people ... So is it your fault? What smoke and mirrors? Big usecaees such as the the coupon bureau is now finally live but the roll of this scale takes time, it's not just bunch of pictures a company decided to sell.... 4-Hedera made it public that the biggest eco system development fund of any crypto is going to change the industry and bring people in. They are doing just that, what wrong with incentives anyway? Its not like other companies and even crypto dose this... also it all just comes back to the DLT as payments anyway! 5- Eth can have 100,000 developers working on it or a million, point is everything can be done , cheaper and faster in a greener way on Hedera. Eth isn't going to die or get killed off. the fact that big comparations trust a DLT enough to run the coupon industry of the USA will bring in more transections which= more network revenue.

GeminiLanding

HBAR was my very first crypto buy 😊 There’s not much love for it on r/cc because of its GC and focus on enterprise. But I see the potential and keep on stacking.

Fun-Investigator3256

I still have my Shure SE846 here. I bought for 5 BTC via Paxful > Amazon GC. Still working and still makes me remember that I was once rich. Haha!

GeminiLanding

Happy Cake Day, GC! 🍻

Fun-Investigator3256

Bought discounted Amazon GC via Paxful back then. When Bitcoin was around $200 each, I bought 6 BTC worth of GC from a Paxful seller. That’s like $1200 back then but I got like a $1600 worth of Gift Cards! Extra $400 for shopping! Yipeeee!

Kinsella497

$BPD Looking to pump soon I am in a Twitter GC with multiple BAYC members and they are planning on going in soon on $BPD CA: 0xC81b0d02393a956234E24564805a896f14ad1250 Do not miss out!

lj26ft

Sam Bankman Fried wants to blame his lawyers. That can be seen as simply a phony excuse. Or we can look closer. Who was the lead attorney that Sam Bankman Fried is blaming? Ryne Miller FTX general counsel Miller was a partner at Sullivan & Cromwell together with former SEC Chairman Jay Clayton. Before he was the personal attorney for today's SEC and back then CFTC Chairman Gary Gensler. Miller was the GC of FTX and the one who was responsible for FTX's legal issues. Ryan Miller and Sullivan and Cromwell were Sam Bankman Frieds Door to Washington (SEC, CFTC, Congress) He's also the one who, a few months before the collapse of the FTX, described how the collapse of an exchange can lead to more regulation. He was also the lawyer who organized the takeover of bankrupt Voyager Digital by FTX just a month before FTX collapsed. JPMorgan was FTX prime broker, handling its trading in stocks and stock futures. And after the collapse Sullivan & Cromwell placed nearly a billion of FTX's client funds with JPMorgan. The collapse of FTX led to the collapse of Sillicon Valley Bank. JPMorgan was an advisor and shareholder of Silicon Valley Bank. After the collapse of Sillicon Valley Bank, JPMorgan acquired the bank on extremely favorable terms. A few month later due to the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank, First Republic bank went under too. And guess who aquired it for cheap? Bingo! It was again JPMorgan. The DOJ even made an exception for JPMorgan from the antitrust laws, actually JPM would have been too big to take over these bank even before they aquired it for cheap. So the only ones that have benefited tremendously from the FTX collabs are Sullivan & Cromwell and JPMorgan. Sullivan & Cromwell collected tens of millions in advisory fees and JPMorgan was able to write billions in profits thanks to FTX and its bargain acquisition of Sillicon Valley and First Republic Bank. And where did all those crypto customers go? Exactly. JPMorgan. It is quite impressive what games you can play as the ruler of US dollar liquidity. https://youtu.be/QsEsgwjfNME?si=Pu-LGDRzhOprDf89 Listen to Ryne Miller make a prediction 2 years before FTX collapse..This is FTX general counsel

lj26ft

Chairman Jay Clayton. Before he was the personal attorney for todays SEC and back then CFTC Chairman Gary Gensler. Miller was the GC of FTX and the one who was responsible for FTX's legal issues. Ryan Miller and Sullivan and Cromwell were Sam Bankman Frieds Door to Washington (SEC, CFTC, Congress) He's also the one who, a few months before the collapse of the FTC, described how the collapse of an exchange can lead to more regulation. He was also the lawyer who organized the takeover of bankrupt Voyager Digital by FTX just a month before FTX collapsed. JPMorgan was FTX prime broker, handling its trading in stocks and stock futures. And after the collapse Sullivan & Cromwell placed nearly a billion of FTX's client funds with JPMorgan. The collapse of FTX led to the collapse of Sillicon Valley Bank. JPMorgan was an advisor and shareholder of Silicon Valley Bank. After the collapse of Sillicon Valley Bank, JPMorgan acquired the bank on extremely favorable terms. A few month later due to the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank, First Republic bank went under too. And guess who aquired it for cheap? Bingo! It was again JPMorgan. The DOJ even made an exception for JPMorgan from the antitrust laws, actually JPM would have been too big to take over these bank even before they aquired it for cheap. So the only ones that have benefited tremendously from the FTX collabs are Sullivan & Cromwell and JPMorgan. Sullivan & Cromwell collected tens of millions in advisory fees and JPMorgan was able to write billions in profits thanks to FTX and its bargain acquisition of Sillicon Valley and First Republic Bank. And where did all those crypto customers go? Exactly. JPMorgan. It is quite impressive what games you can play as the ruler of US dollar liquidity.

iwishiremember

7273 Moons per GC.

stockyewok

I live in the GC and have never seen anywhere that accepts crypto, hbu? I was in thailand for a few months last year and although I didn't own any crypto then, there were quite a few places that accepted it

Kindly-Wolf6919

The question isn't if people will report it but if Reddit will do anything about it. I got scammed of an Amazon GC on the trading gift card subreddit and reported it. Needless to say a few days later Reddit said the user didn't commit any violations so yeah.

DonerTheBonerDonor

I just want to reach GC3 in Rocket League😔

Underpaidtrekkie

The initial investors who bought Hbar had their purchases logged with the sec as securities contracts, pretty sure. Hedera is very compliant and have 2 major law firms on their GC. Secondary sales aren’t securities. Hbar will be in every industry in every country. All of this subs users will use Hedera eventually but won’t know it.

Ricola63

This may well have been the case when going to press. This slide is well over two years old. AND it is a UCL slide, not a Hedera slide. Go and read the UCL report to find out their methodology if you like. It is very comprehensive and I believe it was put together when UCL were looking at which platforms they wanted to support, research they subsequently decided to share in these slides. Since UCL joined the council in May 2020 its a pretty old slide in a fast moving market. Anyway. I\`m not entirely sure why you are trying to start a war in the Cryptosphere against Hedera. Hedera themselves go to great lengths to avoid bad mouthing other projects. They see that as a zero sum game and consistently advise their community that efforts to connect and work with other projects are seen as productive for the entire Crypto community. Their position is that there is SO much market to go after that all projects are welcome as it attracts more users, understanding and investment.... FOR all Crypto projects. That is likely to remain the case for fifteen to twenty years at least. ALSO many Hedera GC members do work with Multiple Platforms (for differing reasons) so they aren\`t going to want an inter Platform war.

Ricola63

Yes. UCL. One of the worlds top Universities with a multi billion dollar reputation to protect and who clearly articulate their methodology in the report. Yes, That university. Why do you think they joined the Hedera GC? Precisely because they had done their research.....

ElectricalSorbet1514

>Also, no, I don’t believe Hedera will keep the grant perpetually, but I do believe once the grant stops Atma will replace them with a better non-Web3 solution. Don’t know if you know this but as Atma got closer to running out of free tokens, they switched to a different solution for several days. If true, it's kind of a strange conclusion from you that AD would use another network as they're a GC member. It would have to be free as well or theyd have to pay in the interim. Maybe its just for redundancy. I suppose if they left the GC that would be more of a possibility. ​ I’m not saying Hedera shouldn’t facilitate adoption, but if adoption only comes because the product is given away free and there’s no adoption outside of that, then there’s obviously something wrong. The product either doesn’t have an actual use case like most blockchains and DLTs or it has little to no value. Market is still undetermined for alt coins. We'll definitely get a clearer picture in next 3 yrs.

hanginglimbs

Almost all marketing is intentionally deceiving in some way. It’s meant to sell a product or service, not level with people. I’m a harsh critic of hedera subsidizing their own GC member’s gas via the hbar foundation (left hand paying the right hand), but I wouldn’t just write off the “company that makes an absurd amount of requests” usage as lacking value or utility. It remains to be seen how successful the atma service will be in the real world and if all these HCS transactions mean anything. But if crypto (DLT specifically) is indeed supposed to be a new type of technology that offers new, innovative ways of operating, this may just be an example of that unfamiliar new reality taking shape. Who knows

TriggeredUBruh82

I second this… there isn’t another chain that’s even comparable to their TPS right now. Tokennomics are a bit meh with the foundation grants but the GC is unique and node validators in the works. Atma.io is churning and Coupon Bureau is growing… that’s only two of 50+ use cases in the works. Main net hasn’t even launched yet. Non-ICO and filed with SEC to deter scrutiny. Solid, slow moving but doing everything well thought out. In few years it’ll be huge with enterprise level use. Won’t make you rich in the short term but long term looks great. Definitely worth looking into for those looking for long holds.