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Bridge>add network>add token>add more networks>add more tokens>swap>bridge again>wrap and unwrap is the stupidest shit I ever had to do just to accomplish one simple transaction.
Decentralized Identity: A Game-Changer for Web3 and Gaming Industry
PEPE Security analysis using GPT4 - Unlimited token minting, user blacklisting, DDoS risk
I’m a boomer@ 69 yrs old. I grew up using computers or PC’s before anyone knew what a PC was. I was never a pc geek, but I simply didn’t fear them like most.
Congress wants to be notified of all crypto rewards payments by DOS
BlackRock is "encouraged" by low cap altcoin (Energy Web) in latest press release
I've read the 496 pages of "The Cryptopians" by Laura Shin so you don't have to
Why doesn't Bill Gates like Bitcoin? Just look at his history and make your own decision.
Coinbase DOS’d themselves with their Super Bowl ad…
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Well, if it's not 1 or 2 gigs where I can put my DOS or VMware bootable image on, well, I've got some more of those contemporary 16-32 gigs, so who cares. Okay, JK. I'd flash another Linux on it of course.
Downloaded from GOG, I don't *think* it's a remaster or otherwise been altered. I have the DOS one on a drive somewhere I'm tempted to go compare. Yeah, pretty wild eh?
>Why does this need to exist? For the same reason that Microsoft Windows exists vs DOS. People need a usable system that allows them to gain exposure without needing to invest time to learn the technical capabilities. Without such advancements you simply do not have adoption. >? Does anyone in Crypto or elsewhere really think Blackrock is out their championing this because it's good for* anyone (but Blackrock)? I can't speak for anyone else but I don't really have a problem with a company creating a product and profiting from it. Especially since it has allowed for hundreds of millions of people who previously were unable to have exposure to now have exposure. This has greatly benefited those of us in this community. You are clearly compulsively stuck on this issue. You need to chill. I'm not sure why this is the hill you've chosen to die on but you're literally working against your best interest here. I've been here since 2012. I'm a early adopter. I was here before 99.9% of this community. I fully understand what the technology is supposed to be utilized for. You're nitpicking trivial consequences ignoring the massive benefit. Honestly I feel sorry for you...
This is nonsense and you haven't done a minimum of research on Hedera. In the Hedera network every node has an equal vote on every consensus. You can't just open this system from the beginning because you'd easily be flooded with malicious nodes and there's the mathematical threshold of 33% of malicious nodes that a decentralized network can sustain. This goes for every DLT. But while Hedera involves all nodes in the consensus process, all other networks only involve a tiny fraction of their nodes, depending either on their mining power or on their stake or on a leader. Both makes them by far more centralized than Hedera and most even prone to DOS attacks. They're not aBFT which is the actual game changer. Hedera will slowly roll out community nodes (still permissioned) soon after the GC has been filled. Then the permissionless journey will start. The focus of this process is to maintain a maximum of decentralization of the consensus in proportion to the network size as to keep the network safe. No single entity with no matter how many nodes shall ever control more than 2.5% of the network's consensus process. Also, the nodes are distributed over the whole world (not just "2-3 data centers"). Decentralization is the hardest part, but Hedera is the only network taking this step seriously.
Apple and Microsoft are older than AOL and no one says they're old tech because of course Sequoia and W11 are upgrades from Mac OS1 and DOS. That's just marketing lingo that other L1 chains use to sell the fact that they abandoned a decentralized approach in favor of cheap transactions. In some ways Ethereum is more like Linux which kept to their original principles and now serves as the backbone of most server applications, but the average consumer knows nothing about it and doesn't care.
Bragging rights. DOS attacks are a concern so if there's a need to implement a way to mitigate against whatever OP did the devs would be interested.
Hook up the drive in DOS environment. See if you can see some dir /b /s *.dat
Imagine buying Microsoft back in the day. MS-DOS?! This can barely do anything! Computers are a failure! People invest in projects like these because of the vision for the future not because of now. Also, good luck with that BMW. They're prohibitively expensive to maintain. Ironically, my ETH profits would cover it if I wanted to.
And DOS.was running all of the things before Windows was made. Things move fast and i can guarantee you that every single user and developer that spends a while on new L1 will never come back to ETH. The industry is moving fast to give the best user experience and apps and ETH is just falling back bit by bit.
Convert to ADA. We can withstand a major DOS attack and keep processing with almost no down time. 🙃
> Were transactions originally handled on a first come first serve basis and it was just a flat fee? For a long time transactions typically paid no fee at all, so I suppose you could call that "flat fee" :P also for along time there were practically no transactions. The way the early code worked is that nodes would admit transactions to their mempool so long as they had less than 200k of transactions, above that transactions required increasingly high fees to get admitted up to 500k max. Accepting them caused them to be relayed to others and included for mining. Miss the threshold and your txn would relay poorly and just kinda not work. This was obviously extremely DOS attack vulnerable, and over time various heuristics were added to filter out free transactions that spent coins again very quickly. So fees were there from the start, they're part of the whitepaper description even. But the early code wasn't at all smart about them and didn't need to be for many years because there were very few transactions. Eventually the software learned to prioritize transactions by their fees-- which wasn't controversial, which is good because it's the incentive compatible approach (miners that do that maximize their income, ones that don't are slowly driven out of business by the others that make more income). I think a lot of the response to the fee prioritization was "oh wtf? it didn't always work that way?" The RBF thing discussed in the video isn't the prioritization by fees (which as mentioned was completely uncontroversial), but rather the ability to replace an unconfirmed transaction with a different unconfirmed transaction. Originally bitcoin had this ability, but attackers could just sit in a loop replacing transactions 4 billion times in a row but only pay at most one fee. So Satoshi disabled it. Much later, when traffic on the network had increased a lot people would sometimes make transactions then sit around for days waiting because they paid low or no fees and they couldn't do anything about it because nodes wouldn't relay an updated transaction. Petertodd realized that if an additional requirement was imposed that any replacement increase the fee by at least the minimum amount a transaction would have needed to get relayed, the repeated-replacement attack goes away and the replacement functionality could be brought back. It's somewhat mystifying that this was ever controversial. It essentially became the target of a proxy fight over another issue (should the resource usage of nodes be limited at all), and some people got caught up in misinformation about it, because some people mistakenly believed that the only reason for it was because blocks were running up against their limits. That was part of the reason for worrying about it then, but more importantly all of the payment channel ideas posted by Satoshi and later parties all count on something like the original replacement functionality working. But that stuff was just over the heads of some people, and people were confused into thinking absurd stuff like that it allowed undoing confirmed transactions. Later Craig Wright wove it into his scammy narratives and used it to create schisms that benefited him. > I think it's still kind of an open question on how BTC will function absent the block subsidy, but the limited block space with a dynamic fee seems like it's at least within the realm of possibility that it could work, That's my view and basically part of the premise of the small block community (which was virtually all the bitcoin core devs except gavin!) -- an aspect totally disregarded in the documentary. I think it's a little more settled than it once was: bitcoin now consistently brings in significantly more fees than several other large block fork coins combined bring in in fees *and* subsidy combined. So if you believe those systems have a meaningful security level today then we have an existence proof that bitcoin can bring in enough fees to support security with the current model. I wouldn't call it proven yet, but the signs are good. And no system without a meaningful limit has demonstrated a similar ability to sustain itself without perpetual inflation.
Cardano has gone down at least twice, and someone can delay all transactions by 10+ minutes for hours by doing a DOS attack for only a few 100 dollars. It's presumptuous to call it well engineered.
I'm glad I grew up on MS-DOS and know about this shit.
Except every other investment is backed by fiat: and that fiat is being printed into oblivion by governments and central bankers everywhere…will thus diluting and devaluing *all* of the other current currency and circulation. And then when you take it a step further, you realize that *all of these other risk assets* (and assets in general) are denominated and said fiat… once you connect those two DOS it’s not hard to realize what is happening in the long-term… Once you understand this, you realize that bitcoin is literally the only asset that escapes this Fiat evaluation and hyper inflation. I would argue that these “savvy investors” you still don’t understand this fact and subsequently *they still don’t understand what bitcoin is and what it represents.*
DOS.Barrotes https://youtu.be/lG70LyDxIGo?si=OVhnI8RBu9B_UMgB
I use DOS still, I am replying to you right now in command.
This has been going on for a lot longer than a decade. Once you can accept the fact that government has made a habit of lying to people to preserve the obfuscation of grift and corruption by exceptionally greedy people in office it sort of turns into a scavenger hunt for the origin point of when democracy broke down. There have been a lot of innocent people gaslit by billionaires and rotten people in positions of power. Standing by what you know to be true, whether it’s about exposing corruption, holding pedophiles accountable, or simply living with pure moral integrity is rarely easy. But it is always essential. U.S. Government took a wrong turn when it started lying to its people systemically. That practice is normally reserved for the authoritarians and dictators. It started for noble enough reasons during WW2. The Manhattan project required strict secrecy as a matter of operational security. Operation Underworld was designed to use the Italian mob and the precursor to the CIA to help secure the ports in New York against Nazi U boats. The unintended consequence of that is the equivalent of “I know a guy” multiplied by 80 years of political and financial ambitions of mediocre greedy men. The fundamental flaw in that is when you stick you white glove in mud and swirl it around, the mud does not get “glovey”. Truth is the gold standard in energy efficiency. You say it once and it stands on its own forever. It requires no additional energy input. Lying, by contrast is the least energy efficient habit known to man. It requires constant and exponential energy to keep each one in play, albeit just barely alive. When a kid lies about stealing a cookie he gets away with it until mom and dad compare notes. When an intelligence organization lies about everything they do, it works until the world grows into the internet. U.S. foreign policy really hasn’t changed much since 1945. Each administration inheriting a 3 ring binder from their predecessor. Most hardly get a glance as they pass along for 80 years. But somewhere in the late 80’s or early 90’s as some old woman with a chain on her glasses slowly converted all those files into digital form on a computer that would stall out until you switched your 5 1/4” floppy disks, the world outside government started moving exponentially faster, yet relatively speaking the speed of efficiency of government got slower. Bureaucracy is the burden of government, but it is to the benefit of corruption. Nefarious actors inside of government use the bureaucracy like a curtain to obfuscate their respective grifts. Most of the multi term politicians can’t retire or they risk losing control of the narrative that keeps their corruption secret. This is why we have spent the last 5 years reverse engineering their entire system to be able to see the tendrils of corruption inside of governments like a P.E.T. scan sees cancer inside a body. https://youtu.be/A90gwMVFFSY?si=wiOAcUvL_oX5eNoI Our government wasn’t born in the Information Age like we were. It grew through it. Carbon copies in triplicate turned to data entry. Data entry turned to MS-DOS. And on and on. And each one of those events left a pixel of data. We have just been using it wrong. But just like 1980’s 8 bit graphics have given way to 4K HD video, when you organize that data in a decentralized verified format, you build an objective synthetic vision of government and the corruption it obscures. Everything we have ever been lied to about pops like neon when you compare the differential between the two narratives. As a species we don’t have a lack of resources or capacity. We just have a few bridge trolls whose dirty business models necessitate lying to us. Over time they simply migrated to governments. Once you sort by net worth and psychopathic/sociopathic personality traits instead of nationality, political party or skin color it becomes relatively easy to backtrack corruption. There is a reckoning coming and a lot of people who simply stood by their truth are going to be vindicated. A democratic government is supposed to be accountable to its citizens. The fact that we have become so conditioned in 3 generations that we don’t demand 100% transparency from our democratic government is a pretty good indicator of the level of investment into concealing corruption. That is what we are here to fix. Life isn’t supposed to be this hard.
printe~1.bmp for those using DOS
>This is how technology innovation happens. Just like what happened with the internet. Yeah it's like watching the computer/internet revolution all over again. I'd say crypto is at roughly the Windows 95 stage of development. We don't have to learn DOS commands anymore, but the UI is still clunky and weird and there's not a lot of really cool stuff to do yet.
Computers for the first 10 years were all command line and no mouse, networking, printing, apps, etc. Crypto will get there, it just needs to iterate. Remember DOS? windows 3.0? Windows 95? We eventually got to mass market for computers, but it took decades and tons of iteration.
Niche... for now, because there's still a technical barrier. In the future, people won't even have to think about the fact that they're using the blockchain. It'll be as easy as sending someone money in CashApp. Takes time to make breakthrough technology user friendly. It's a process. Like with computers, we went from programming them with punch cards and switches, to having to learn DOS commands to use them, and now to today where anyone's 80 year old grandma can just tap some shit on their phone's screen to do cool stuff.
> (I’m an enterprise developer for 25 years) I'm an enterprise developer for 15 years and have worked for faang companies as well as small & indy levels. And I think you're wrong. > It is a few moments of work. You're either an idiot, or you have absolutely no idea how to open a database up while securing it. In no way, shape or form can a database be both opened to the public & secured against a hack in "a few moments of work". Only if you want your database getting, at best, DOS'd, or more likely hacked or deleted. > in fact it’s far easier, why choose a blockchain? Disagree. I listed a lot of features, you seem to have read less than half. > I suspect new devs use at hosting. Is all. Well, it was almost a sentence. Not quite enough to be understood, but it's something. > “Programming” smart contracts to do basic operations is a complete nightmare compared to your more common languages At no point did I say this has to be done with smart contracts. It can, or parts of it can, but the main thing is to turn the data storage process into what's needed for your specific situation. > And transactions are just orders of magnitude more expensive, of course. Only because a small group of fanatical Bitcoiners decided without realistically evaluating the tradeoffs that it had to be. In the real world, the processing and data requirements aren't that severe, it's just extensive replication and excess cryptographic operations. > it can. It’s just not appropriate. Hard disagree. It was literally built TO DO that from the ground up. You're just so hung up on the fact that it was also built to do MORE that you can't separate the "MORE" part. You also only seem to have responded to less than half of the things I listed. Like, implying that you can manage access control for ten thousand plus users in "a few moments of work" hahaha, riiight.
Interesting, I didn't realize that CP/M was quite so capable or widespread. Thanks for referencing that. I don't really count DOS as early 80's because it didn't really begin to be widespread until the mid-80's, but CP/M does seem to fit what I was talking about. This still required specialized skills to use - Relatively few people had the knowhow to make a CP/M computer run and do anything. And just at-a-glance, it seems like it would be a stretch to call supercalc quite that useful - It was obviously very limited due to everything being so early and it only ran on specific hardware rather than all of CP/M capable machines.
CP/M was already a thing! Not only was there a multi-platform OS, you could get the trilogy of business apps on it - Wordstar, Supercalc, and dBase II. And if you wanted to develop programs - Microsoft actually got their start with things like BASIC, FORTRAN and COBOL on CP/M. Not to mention Borland's Turbo Pascal and Hi-Tec C. There was a reason Microsoft used a clone of CP/M for the 8086 to sell as MS-DOS....
I am banned from X ----Imagine that...my Free Speech doesn't quite mesh with Elon's I am hoping its plug and play ...lol...old Apple user who hated DOS.
It is highly likely something will eventually replace Bitcoin. Or that it will evolve layers which are used while people ignore the underlying Bitcoin workings. Much like how Windows replaced DOS but there are still elements of DOS and its design under the surface.
So I don't know exactly how to answer that besides starting to put numbers behind the $$$ side of it. But value is something different. Did any of us value Zelle or paypal and the ability to use Ebay when we were just using E-mail back in 1996? According to Statista, global revenues from internet services and advertising are expected to increase from $828 billion in 2023 to $1.05 trillion in 2027. In 2023, global retail e-commerce sales reached an estimated $5.8 trillion, and projections indicate a 39% growth over the coming years, with expectations to surpass $8 trillion by 2027. Personally, I think we'll start to see the marriage of traditional protocols like TCP/IP with blockchain technology. TCP/IP is not going anywhere but you are starting to see the infancy of this as there are a few whitepapers people have put together around these ideas with unfortunately BSV. It's only a matter of time before these ideas are re-introduced using the strongest blockchain protocol. To me, integrating blockchains with TCP/IP allows communications to have financial "skin in the game". At the moment, there's nothing stopping me from sending a shit ton of traffic to your routers to clog up https ports on your web server. And lets say my motive is not a DOS and to clog up your Web facing precense but to slip through a back door of the services you are using on your website. Again.....no cost to me to attempt to send a bunch of "if/then" statements to your "if/then defense box" to attempt to use logic to determine if my actions are nefarious. BSV / TCP/IP paper mentioned. https://www.bsvblockchain.org/news/ipv6-unlocks-the-true-power-of-the-bsv-blockchain Again....not an endorsement at all of BSV just an example of whats possible with blockchains and the protocols that run the internet today.
Look up how many SPV clients one node can handle and how to handle DOS attacks. Think a million smartphones sending requests to one node. If bitcoin has 100,000 publicly accessible nodes (don't think it does) how many SPV clients can be supported? It's 9am and 300 million people open their bitcoin wallet and it needs to refresh..
Would you prefer it be as sealed as DOS 6.22 is? If so Bitcoin awaits you.
I’m a technically skilled person, I grew up on DOS, have built computers, codes websites in raw html before the internet had pictures, and have set up home networks for 20 years. I still don’t fully trust that I can transfer a wallet without issue.
I went from AMP to Algo and still use algo to this day for all my stuff. Just makes no sense to support a protocol that is fixing an issue with ETH. Its like supporting a fix for DOS when we have Windows.
DO you guys ever read what you write - I am relatively new to this and i swear - you sound like a bunch of propellor heads arguing about DOS ​ The one catch - its your money, as all this shit is a mirage to cover up the very simple fact....with FIAT - its worth nothing......you are trading rocks you bought with dollars so you can re-convert them to dollars.
DOS is dead??!! LMAO. Not only do you have no idea how crypto works, you have absolutely no idea how PC’s work. Run a DOS shell. Type in cd.. , then type in cd windows, then type in dir/p and tell me what you see. You will see all of windows file stucture built in DOS. And by the way…the whole time you are typing in “cd..” , “cd windows” “cd system32”….guess what…you are in DOS my friend.
Boy, I used DOS when your dad was still a child. Wtf are you talking about? I had to type win in dos to start win 3.11 from a floppy disk when I was a kid, you don't know shit. Besides dos is dead, what you mean and what you see now is a command line in windows which has some old dos command in there still. LMFAO
Whoever pays you for IT support, pays you way too much. That is the problem with kids who were born after Win95. They have NO IDEA what DOS is…no idea that Windows is not actually an OS. Windows is a GUI built on top of the DOS language. A .bat file is an executable SCRIPT (which is the same thing as saying program) compiled and run thru Windows by CMD.EXE because Windows is NOT an OS…it is a GUI. If you were at a DOS prompt (something you have probably never seen) you would see that you could EXECUTE a .bat file freely and totally separate from CMD.EXE
A batch file is a script file in DOS, OS/2 and Microsoft Windows. It consists of a series of commands to be executed by the command-line interpreter, stored in a plain text file. A batch file may contain any command the interpreter accepts interactively and use constructs that enable conditional branching and looping within the batch file, such as IF, FOR, and GOTO labels. The term "batch" is from batch processing, meaning "non-interactive execution", though a batch file might not process a batch of multiple data. Source: the fucking Google, learn how to use it
- 1973: Cerf and Kahn, "A Protocol for Packet Network Intercommunication" – TCP/IP - 1976: Whitfield Diffie and Martin Hellman, "New Directions in Cryptography" - 1978: RSA Public-key Cryptosystems - 1980: Ralph Merkle, "Protocols for public key cryptosystems" - 1981: David Chaum, "Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses, and Digital Pseudonyms" - 1982: Murray Rothbard, "The Ethics of Liberty" - 1983: David Chaum, "Blind Signatures for Untraceable Payments" - 1985: Elliptic Curve Cryptography - 1988: Timothy C. May, "The Crypto-Anarchist’s Manifesto" - 1989: David Chaum, Founded DigiCash - 1991: - Phil Zimmerman, Pretty Good Privacy – PGP - S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta, "How to time-stamp a digital document" - 1992: - Cypherpunks founded in SF by Eric Hughes, Timothy C. May and John Gilmore - Tim Berners-Lee, World Wide Web - 1993: Eric Hughes, "A Cypherpunk's Manifesto" - 1994: - Timothy C. May, "The Cyphernomicon" - CyberCash - E-gold - NSA, "How To Make a Mint" - 1997: - Adam Back, HashCash, DOS counter-measure w/ proof-of-work - Nick Szabo, "Formalizing and Securing Relationships on Public Networks" – Smart Contracts, Third part vulnerabilities - 1998: - Nick Szabo, "Securing Property Titles with Owner Authority" – Timestamped database - Wei Dai, "B-money" – decentralized database to record txs and using a type of proof-of-work - Bit Gold - 2001: - Bram Cohen, Bittorrent - Distributed Hash Tables - Video game currencies and markets (era started in 2001) - demand - 2004: Liberty Reserve - 2006: Hal Finney, "Reusable Proof-of-Work" - 2008: - Lehman Bankruptcy (Sep 15, 2008) - Satoshi Nakamoto, "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-peer Electronic Cash System" (Oct 31, 2008) - Bitcoin launched, "Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" (Jan 3, 2009) The timeline presents a history of technological and ideological developments that led to the creation of Bitcoin, demonstrating it as the
We should just all do that, Create a bot to do it millions of times a second and crash their webpage! A DOS attack! 😀
My first real computer experience was with a 186 was around 1988 I believe. I was in grade school. My friend had this older 186 and we typed into DOS and then ran phone dialer program. We called a local restaurant and then laughed when they picked up as we knew we had no microphone. After the person picked up to take our order and then hung up the phone I said to my friend "We just made a phone call from the computer why doesn't everyone just have a computer that's also a phone." I wasn't thinking of a cellphone or even a laptop, I was thinking about it replacing the home phone. I've run DOS box on a machine or two for a while but require a full retro build for the real experience.
I'm too ,bud. In my highschool , I was running a 486. Actually now I'm looking to build myself a retro machine for DOS gaming, nostalgia hits hard.
I would also argue that ETH like BTC has first movers advantage. It's one of the oldest shitcoins out there and has provided an extensive environment for app developers to pivot to. More people use it because it's been around for a while and that drawn more developers. The tech though is disappointing. It's slightly faster than BTC but much slower than other more modern chains like nano, lightening, avax, solana, kaspa, etc. I also am not a fan of having millions of L2 chains to fix what's broke on the main L1 ETH chain. It's adds unecessary complexity not just technical but financial as well. If gas becomes so expensive and only huge corporations can use ETH while the plebs are forced onto Polygon, Arbritum, Optimism, etc. Why not just use an L1 that already has those features? I would argue that crypto should fulfill the basic use cases of money first on its L1 then it's secondary financial functions like defi, etc and if it can't do those or if those functions are in direct competition against its its primary functions then move that off to a L2. OP has a point why should he transact in ETH and which shitcoins should crypto standardize on? It's the wild, wild west out there right now and things won't become good for the everyday regular and business users out there without some form of standardization. Just like how IBM standardized DOS/Windows on Intel chips for PCs or Apple introducing the touchscreen iPhone 1 or let's go back a few thousand years what set of weights to use for our city-state?
No point of using ETH. It's like using DOS in the age of Windows 11. The only reason it keeps going is the financial incentive of early users and investors in the protocol and its L2s.
Probably getting DOS’d by everyone viewing it
> When a user initiates a transaction, they commit enough ada to cover its execution cost. In Alonzo, transactions that call and use non-native smart contracts (known as phase-2 contracts) also need enough collateral to cover costs related to potential transaction failures. This amount can be small, but it is sufficient to make a denial of service (DOS) attack prohibitively expensive. > > Collateral fees are collected only if a transaction fails validation. If the contract passes validation, the transaction fees are collected, but the collateral is not. https://docs.cardano.org/smart-contracts/plutus/collateral-mechanism/
He's just a moony heavily invested in SOL and reacts can't stand to face reality, but only his own little bubble fed by Toly, influencers, etc. Let's hope he is not a bag holder . Otherwise at some point he will surely burn his wings. A flawed "blockchain" that is susceptible to DOS attack, 90% of transactions are not real transactions, but voting transactions. Out of the 10% of real transactions, 60% percent are failed transactions . A "blockchain" like Solana has no chance to survive the test of time considering crypto only represents less than 0.5% of global economy.
I mean… taproot introduced ordinals and BRC tokens. Bitcoin makes changes too - just far less because it serves a different purpose. Ethereum and other web3 chains need to constantly evolve to meet the needs of developers. Imagine trying to build modern web apps on an old DOS computer.
Nova was a game changer for me. Best wallet of any ecosystem I've used. It's nice to be able to stake my DOT, Kusama, moonbeam and polkadex all in one spot. DOT ecosystem has come a long way in regards to usability. Reminds me a bit of the progression of computer operating systems from DOS to where we are today with windows, Mac OS and other modern day OS's.
I am happy for you that you made tons of $$$, sincerely. But that is the problem of this society, having people like you help pump the price of a fundamentally broken chain at the tech level and hence fund a group of corrupt VCs and team. Things like Solana won't last forever, cause it is devoid of fundamentals. We are far from adoption in the crypto space as it barely represents less than 0.5% of global economy. For adoption to occur, many technology feat must occur as well as regulation. For adoption to occur, blockchains must reconcile its public transparency nature with privacy at the smart contract level. Research has progressed well at this level. And current research requires a specific architecture in order to work. Solana's architecture doesn't allow that, since it's using proof of history, a consensus that is deterministic and allows DOS attack. That's why Solana keeps having outages. As a matter of fact, it brands itself as being fast on the order of milliseconds for processing transactions. But it takes minutes for these transactions to be final. That means it's slightly only faster than Cardano and not even comparable to Algorand or Hedera, who have constant finality. As I said, I am happy for you that you made tons of money. But don't let Toly and the VCs (like a16z) dump on you ;)
And what’s wrong with less hash power? The motivation to “attack” bitcoin still needs to outweigh the reward + fees. As far as I know there are two options with an attack: double-spend which is impractical and useless DOS which is extremely expensive and time-sensitive. Even if you managed to mine empty blocks for a month.. then what? As soon as you stop bitcoin goes back to working. It may do serious damage to the adoption rate / price but it doesn’t “kill” bitcoin.
No matter the price of bitcoin, miners are always incentivized to mine for block reward + fees as apposed to attacking the network (double-spend / DOS).
At the age of 15 Microsoft was already dominating the OS Market with DOS on PCs.
Sending email only with DOS on your pc, yet people are doing all kinds of things in internet these days.
> In both being tech savvy Yea, we're definitely still at the MS DOS stage of adoption. Eventually though users won't need to know anything about cryptographic keypairs, gas fees etc. Onboarding for regular folks will be through account abstraction, as described in detail by Visa: https://usa.visa.com/solutions/crypto/rethink-digital-transactions-with-account-abstraction.html > ETH and BTC sounds like a nightmare for 99% of the population. Yea, but for Ethereum users won't be transacting on L1, they will be on rollups, as has been the plan for over 3 years: https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698 I agree with you on Lightning though, I sold my bitcoin after working out that in order for everyone alive today to open a channel it would take almost a century of completely full Bitcoin blocks, even if no one else used the chain for anything!
Yea, that's completely fair, but I think that's just a symptom of being 'early'. Did you ever use computers back in the early days, loading Doom from multiple floppy disks, running everything with DOS, etc. When we get to the 'average person' stage of adoption things like gas and different layers will just be abstracted away. We're closer to that future already than you might think, Visa have been working on Account Abstraction (ERC-4337) for quite a while and have a few really good articles explaining how it will work: https://usa.visa.com/solutions/crypto/rethink-digital-transactions-with-account-abstraction.html
Solana's network is now stable and able to survive on the DOS attacks the Eth developers used (looped smart contracts). Firedancer is on live testnet and will take SOL transactions up to 1 million/second. Firedancer will decrease block creation time to 300 milliseconds. Firedancer will be on main net early next year. I think the really smart investors are not only concerned... they are buying SOL.
I'm so sorry man I wanted to say bitcoin. Definitely agree with you. For coding and creating there are way way better Blockchain than BTC. But from my point of view, BTC was created for alternative form of payment and to change this kind of full corrupted centralisation. My apologies to say "crypto" but was morning and forgot to put MS-DOS floppy disk into my brain 🤦
51% attack would be extremely expensive to launch and *sustain*. At worst it would result in delays and empty blocks. Like an annoying DOS attack that would eventually end due to the cost to sustain the attack. No double spending would be possible. In the end, the attacker would have spent enormous resources to gain nothing. If somebody - say some nation state with infinite resources - somehow managed to launch *and sustain indefinitely* such an attack, I think a consensus to make a hard-fork, bricking the attacker in their tracks, would be easy to reach and implement. Quantum computing it not, and will never be a threat unless somehow somebody built one in secret that was capable of breaking the cryptography used by BTC. Plenty of efforts are already underway to mitigate that. IF such a device were to materialize overnight having been developed by an attacker in complete secrecy, Bitcoin will be the last of your worries.
They can't make up transactions or even fake transactions all they can do is do a denial of service is not hacking ..... The defenition of hacking is "the gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer." That has nothing to do with a DOS attack which is all a 51% attack can do.
This reminds me of when Xerox incubated LCD technology and DOS language, then squandered the opportunity to develop them, then watched as Texas Instruments and Microsoft made billions off of their inventions. Who knows which communities will evolve into vast empires and change the world? Bad executives. Bad
Supposedly not anymore, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html. But NORAD uses DOS consoles for many sensitive internal systems or so I’m told.
BTC has had DOS attacks...its now stronger than before. Same for nano.
Accepting Crypto vs Hundreds of Millions in Goods and Services being purchased with crypto: - In October 2015, credit card companies blocked escort site Backpage worldwide. Backpage turned to Bitcoin as the payments network and survived until 2018 when it was eventually shutdown and seized by the U.S government. The Feds seized $500 Million from Backapge and according to estimates, Backpage generated over $100 Million per year in revenue before they were shut down. https://decrypt.co/6887/crypto-capital-backpage-sex-trafficking-bust https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/top-officials-at-backpagecom-indicted-after-classifieds-site-taken-offline/2018/04/09/0b646f36-39db-11e8-9c0a-85d477d9a226_story.html - In mid-2017, the Feds shut down darketnet market Alphabay. Estimates were that Alphabay was doing $600,000 and $800,000 a day in sales. Over the years, many markets have come and gone trying to replace it but the darkness marketplace is not what it was with what has followed as a series of busts, DOS attacks and exit scams. https://www.wsj.com/articles/illegal-goods-website-alphabay-shut-following-law-enforcement-action-1499968444 So ask people: - Not including exchanges, ask people to show you one business today that generates $100 Million per year in revenue from crypto? - Not including exchanges, ask people to show you one business doing $600,000 and $800,000 a day in sales from crypto? They can't. What people mostly point to you thousands and thousands of more places accepting crypto today but it's hardly ever used. But places that were selling hundreds of millions of goods and services using crypto that were thriving a few years ago but don't exist today.
Mass adoption will come just like in the preadoption days of the internet when dial-up bulletin boards were the thing. AOL came along and made internet access simple and easy for millions. Windows 7 came along and made MS-DOS CD:\games obsolete with point and click access. Whenever someone invents the simple crypto buying, selling and holding interface easy for millions, then it'll happen.
the volume of data just doesn't work for running internal sites any more. It can be totally secure but a lot of companies focus on Parent Level and don't have a map of all the inputs and outputs. Looks good in PowerPoint presentation but even the biggest energy & water companies still have a DOS machine running some vital gateway/code that no-one dare touch.
tldr; Nano, a sustainable financial network, has made significant progress in achieving commercial grade. With over 180 million blocks processed and $5 billion in value transfers, Nano has proven its scalability and efficiency. The network has faced challenges, including denial of service attacks, but remains committed to continuous improvement. Nano has implemented thorough testing procedures, including unit tests and automated integration tests, to ensure the software performs as designed. The network has also addressed performance maintenance post-saturation, bounded disk storage, and spam/DOS resistance. Nano is exploring long-term storage solutions and network topology improvements for future growth. The journey towards commercial grade is ongoing, and Nano invites users to be part of its growth story. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
tldr; Nano, a sustainable financial network, has made significant progress in achieving commercial grade. Over the past eight years, Nano has processed over $5 billion in transactions without fees and with settlements in under a second. The network has faced challenges, including denial of service attacks, but remains committed to continuous technical improvement. Recent achievements include rewriting the node's bootstrapping algorithm, revamping the codebase, and enhancing testing processes. Nano is focused on maintaining performance after network saturation, bounded disk storage, and spam/DOS resistance. The network is also exploring long-term storage solutions and network topology improvements. Nano invites users to be part of its growth story and forge the future of digital cash. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
tldr: Damian Williams, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced today that PABLO RENATO RODRIGUEZ, the co-founder of AirBit Club with GUTEMBERG DOS SANTOS, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for orchestrating the massive global AirBit Club pyramid scheme. RODRIGUEZ and his co-conspirators deceived individuals into investing in AirBit Club, a purported cryptocurrency mining and trading company, and executed a sophisticated money laundering operation to hide their illegal profits pilfered from AirBit Club.
No, it was user created little websites where you could make your own MySpace Facebook type page. There wasn’t any copy paste function you can put pictures and stuff in but you had to learn to type in the HTML code . I mean this is back on my 486 25 MHz machine. But it was hot shit for a homeschooler in the mid 90s. Back when you had to boot most of the good games out of DOS props.
Utility. Functionality. Fun. Interest. It's just software. Like in the roaring 1990's. MS-DOS lives inside Windows. Their code will survive in some form inside other projects. Also PC's utility was largely replaced by smartphones. Old projects utility will morph into other things we may not know.
Not a perceived slight, just a reality check. It is ironic a group of people who have produced nothing are using a series of technologies that "old people" invented to insult old people. That was the point. Learning crypto is less about technology, it's about usefulness and access. Just like every new tech. Every new tech. People learned computers, internet, phones when 2 things happened : they became useful and they became easier. Cell phone use and computer use took off when it became easy and useful. Believe me, a cell phone was less useful and easy when it weighed a couple pounds and the battery lasted the length of a good shit. To put it a other way, before windows you needed to know DOS. Most people had no fucking clue how to use it other than egg heads and scientists. Most young people in the 80s couldn't use DOS. When I went to university maybe 5% of kids were proficient in DOS. When windows came, about 85% were proficient. Computers became accessible and useful. Crypto is exactly the same. It isn't useful. It isn't easy. Regardless of age. But hey, thanks to Gen Z I can put "other" on my driver license. Lol. Appreciate it folks!
Are there any Bitcoin wallets for MS-DOS? I have an old IBM XT with an ethernet card and I think it would be the most secure possible hot wallet because it's fucking MS-DOS and has no network-related security holes lol
Comparing analog to digital tech... Well, MS-DOS still lives inside Windows 11. Bitcoin is evolving tech. Software.
Imho because "crypto gaming" shouldn't even be a thing. I've also been gaming since forever(when I was a kid I was playing Prince of Persia on DOS), and I've seen gaming evolve since then, but even if I'm in the crypto space this "crypto + whatever" craze should stop imho. Crypto doesn't work with everything, and "crypto gaming" is a dumb idea. Having a good game which IMPLEMENTS some crypto stuff for skins and such MIGHT turn out decent, but if anyone pitches a "crypto game" to me I'll already know from the get go that there's a 99% chance that, as you mentioned, it's either a scam, poorly created, both of these things and will most likely just be a way for devs to cash in with crypto... ...like if major triple-A publishers already didn't put out half-baked games with day 1 DLCs and shit like that which then takes months or years to fix. Gaming is a crowded space and it's in a very bad place right now, at least if you look at the major players in the industry(BG3 is an exception in an industry full of greed and bad management), and it's mostly indie games doing things how they should be done(complete games, fair prices, support and free updates after release and so on). I know we're in crypto sub so I hope this doesn't sound like a crypto hate message, as I mentioned I own some myself, but I've been a gamer my entire life and I still haven't found a single decent reason why "crypto gaming" should be a thing. Everyone hates games with poor real money implementations, pay to win mechanics and stuff like that: now imagine all of this with a dev that makes a game based on a currency that can go up 90% or down -300% in a matter of hours...that'll never lead to a good game.
No, it’s just that eth has to deal with magnitudes more volume (and more complicated transactions) then something like does. When you have a desirable and popular blockchain(eg Solana) with basically 0 gas fees, you end up being dos’d by competitors and trolls and it costs them nothing. Eth’s solution to this scalability problem is high gas fees; no one is going to DOS if it costs them millions. Algo doesn’t have a solution to this, because they have never had to. Look into scalability, it’s one of the most important things for a popular blockchain to think about.
Sucks, because I bought a license for version 5.20 ages ago (I know, we do exist!) and it doesn't seem to transfer to newer versions. Oh well, I have been using RAR since it came out for DOS on 5.25" floppies. I suppose it's time to move on :)
I think there's something to this. When you plug in the Bitbox02 and enter the passcode it says something like "Use Bitbox App." Scanning on Sparrow would say "Logged in" and the button would say "Sign" I think that's how it's supposed to work. In this case, a couple times during the scanning process the Bitbox would go into the "Enter passcode" phase again, and the scanning would fail, I would enter the code again and it would just say "Bitbox02" I would rescan on Sparrow and it would fail. It felt like the old DOS days when you'd just try rebooting the computer to fix problems and it would work 90% of the time.
First Story: Before I moved to Kenya, I use to send my wife money every month via Western Union. For some bizarre unknown reason WU thought my wife was a terrorist and blocked me. They also reported me to some organization and I ended up on some highly inclusive ban list and was blocked EVERYWHERE that I could find to send money overseas. Several dozen companies. Eventually, WU unblocked me after I sent tons of proof that my wife was actually my wife. This took around six months. During this time, her only support from me was via crypto. There was no alternative. Second story: After I moved to Kenya, I wanted to buy a house. When I tried to wire the money, my bank said I had to come in person to sign the paperwork. This was during the height of the Covid panic and international flights weren't even available in many parts of the world. I tried using ATMs, PayPal transfers, and WU. However, my bank had a policy of only $10k in transfers per month. At this rate, it would have took around a year to get the money. It was crazy, I couldn't buy a home with my own money. After many futile attempts, I finally switched to cryptocurrency. Long story, but eventually I was able to sell some of crypto savings locally using hundreds of small transactions (mainly to be safe). This took under a month. I could have done it faster, but Mpesa only allows $3000 in transfers per day and I didn't want to carry large amounts of cash. Third story: I use to love making computer games, but never had a way to monetize it. Despite my games spreading through shareware to over a million people (mainly Atari ST and early PC DOS crowd), I never got a deal with a distributor. Setting up my own distribution network was beyond both my skill level and financial ability. Because of this, I lost hope in ever making games for a living. It occurred to me at some point that if I could make my games multiplayer, I could monetize them, but even setting up a debit/credit card system was still beyond both my financial and technical capabilities. Crypto makes the problem of monetization a hundred times easier. I made a multiplayer game that requires a server, so I can distribute the game client for free. It works with cryptocurrency. No need for Visa/Mastercard. At some point, once beta is complete, I could charge a small fee. Even that may not be necessary as I can just charge a small percentage of sales with the built in auction house. Admittedly, this last story is still ongoing. It is also a bit pointless, as I am already successful. I can make games without really worrying about making a profit on them. Plus, there is the Steam platform for solo developers now. Then again, that is a centralized solution to game publishing, so they could totally change their policy (like requiring a million dollars to publish a game) and cut off solo developers.
Crypto is just our current financial system without the financial system in place. Once they take over, most of this knowledge will be taught. We will be the legacy users that knew how to operate the system before it was easy (basically learning DOS before Windows).
I looked pretty heavily into port forwarding 8333 today and even did it for about 15 minutes before disabling it. The consensus seems to be that allowing incoming connections isn’t a big deal when you can already make 8 outbound connections automatically. There’s also enough nodes with 8333 open already to facilitate IBD’s. More bandwidth never hurts, but we’re not in dire need for it. If anything, advertising your node on the open internet invites more privacy risks than most would deem worth it when all they want to do is view their own copy of the blockchain without killing their upload bandwidth speeds and/or cap. It also makes you a DOS target if someone were to attempt something like that against the entire network. I’ll probably still open it up one day, but maybe after I decide to pay the extra couple of dollars to just do it through my VPN.
Relays are still useful. Non-listening nodes relay blocks to the listening nodes they’re connected to. Those listening nodes can also talk to each other, but it’s always better to have a more diverse and interconnected network. DOS protection is a pretty big deal. If you can map all the node IP’s that are accepting incoming connections you could theoretically take them all down at the same time with a powerful enough exploit. That exploit would never make it to the non-listening nodes because the attacker can’t even connect to them.
How on earth can a coin protect against a DOS attack with transaction fees of zero? Transaction fees are for SECURITY. How can you have "instant" transactions on a heavily decentralized network? Fast transaction fees almost always mean centralization. Sounds like nano is right where it needs to be and we should instead be talking about people promoting coins that claim to solve the blockchain trilemma when that's impossible. They always do so at the expense of security and decentralization. SOL, anyone?
You can format the disk to FAT in Mac Disk Utility Insert the USB to be formatted to a Mac PC Navigate to Applications > Utilities, and click it twice to open open disk utility Select the drive you want to format and click on Erase Rename the USB drive (optional), and choose the MS-DOS(FAT) for format Select Master Boot Record for scheme, hit Erase erase usb drive Once the process is done, the USB drive will be ready to reuse with FAT32 file system to save data
I've been just randomly buying BTC and ETH over the past 8+ months and ignoring all my shitcoins in the cosmos ecosystem... Just went to claim all my rewards, transferred them to osmosis, swapped into ATOM, send back to Keplr and staked. I forgot why I was so bullish on this ecosystem...maybe most of these tokens shit the bed and never recover but goddamn is the UX smooth as fuck...makes dealing with ETH and layer 2's seem like DOS compared to Windows.
Trust me I know that feeling. I only remember as I had the first Raymon game on MS DOS lol
Not to sound like a broken record, but we kind-of have to be because people don't get it. Gas fees on L1 are supposed to be high. THEY SHOULD BE HIGHER. High gas fees make DOS attacks expensive. Low gas fees mean attacking the blockchain is a bargain. All the other "eth killers" are lying to you. The blockchain trilemma cannot be solved. You can't have low gas fees, fast transaction finality, security, and decentralization all at one. Ethereum is the only blockchain that lays it all out on the table. L1 is all about security and decentralization, L2 is where the compromises can be made for fast transaction times and low fees. But make no mistake about it, they're compromises.
You can't "inflate BTC" -- this is a shill account trying to convince people to unwittingly participate in the transaction flooding DOS attacks -- the rest of their posts are all shilling Ayre narratives. If you go digging in their twitter you can see Ayre's employees [bragging about their attack](https://twitter.com/SVAgency1/status/1657051887575736321). I guess ayre is getting tired of spending around 10 million dollars a day this pointless attack and now wants to try to dupe greedy idiots into doing some of it for him.
These levels of fees happen all the time during the bull runs and can occur without Ordinals at all, you must be new and thats okay, but you should know that Bitcoin has a defense mechanism from DOS. That defense mechanism is fees, and the more someone tries to DOS the network, the higher fees become to stop them. Sending a small amount of bitcoin si the same price now as when bitcoin is having a bullrun, natural competition for blockcpace during bulls creates the same fees as the "DOS" as you called it. People in El Salvador are not prevented form using bitcoin by Ordinals lol, you are kind of overreacting about fees. Some people even say that Bitcoin Ordinals have "saved" Bitcoin in the long run because now there is a reason for people to pay the miners after the rewards for blocks are gone. With a use case like ordinals, miners will always have a source of transfers on the blockchain even if Bitcoin becomes the "settlement layer" of a larger system as some refer to it.
Have you seen the mempool lately? The tech has no capacity for ordinals. It's not about terabytes lol. Either use it for what it's intended to be or forget about adoption. 10 minute block time and 1.5 mb blocks are already bad, why fill it with crap too? 303,624 Unconfirmed TXs right now with some transaction fees as high a $3000 How are people in El Salvador supposed to pay hundreds of dollars for fast transactions? I would compare ordinals to a DOS attack. Denial of service if you are not rich.
I didn't say if "suffer'ed, I called it a DOS. Clearly it's a denial of service, if someone who would make a transaction at $1-2 won't do so, because they won't pay $30. Look at how much news there has been recently about Bitcoin being in trouble. Clearly you can generate a load of FUD/bad press by spending some money spamming the network with transactions. You don't have to do it indefinitely, just enough to cause people to worry that it might continue. I have no opinion on whether it's good or bad, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't matter whether the transactions come from normal people or attackers, the effect is the same.
ETH mainnet feels more like using DOS to me
fckin swarm, they reproduce and shit coins everywhere! /s Ordinals are a Greedy DOS attack!
Projects like Vertiblock have used Bitcoin's POW security and blockspace to timestamp their projects. This could be a NFT mint, or it could be a malicious DOS attack by a party with deep pockets.
Nobody is being denied service in a technical sense. As long as you have fees you can make txs go. Nobody is intentionally doing this to make low fee txs not go through as far as we're aware, so it's not an attack. If Bitcoin saw greater adoption this tx volume and fee level would eventually happen so it's not as if it shouldn't be prepared for events like this. If this is a DOS attack Bitcoin's current infrastructure and setup is far too fragile to ever consider it as a global currency.
Some people are calling what is happening with Bitcoin at the moment a DOS attack. Do you agree?
Ease of use. Internet/Web2 didn’t take off until they simplified the process from taking 50 cords and devices and stringing them together to talk to some guy through DOS screens, to the day ya could pop in one of those free AOL CDs to ask a/s/l to some rando in a chat room. Baby steps people. Blockchain is getting a ton of publicity right now but it’s still so early in this thing. Web3 is 5-10 years away.
Self custody / on-chain interaction. Especially on layers with no CEX on-ramps requires learning. This type of mass adoption is not around the corner, but it does not remove any of the properties which provide an asset like ETH value. Either way, most of us under 70 years old now understand how to use Windows, browsers, smart appliances, the internet, smart phones, social media, etc. Most here don't remember or ever experienced the feeling of learning DOS or windows 3.1, as an adult, for the first time. Believe me, it wasn't easy. Couldn't be more alien. This all will require some educating, but it will get better with improved user experiences / UI. Will take years, and the younger you are the easier it'll be. Patience.
It is a genuine concern I totally agree, most fud usually has at least some kernel of truth If we only take the sequencers (ignoring for a moment the upgradable L1 contracts), then some concerns may be MEV extraction, DOS attacks on it, censorship to rob certain users from time sensitive opportunities (e.g. the sequencer might temporarily ignore some arbitrage trade transactions while executing others that the operator is pals with) So stuff like this will need to be addressed
Part of that has probably got to do with stability. When I was a kid, computers were constantly crashing and needed trouble shooting. I dug in deep and fixed all my own issues, often using DOS and figuring out all the commands. Now kids just take their iPad to a "genius" to do it for them.