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BolitaBolita

Sia coin SC for medium/long term! Some interesting developments on the project to come 😉

Powerful_Tooth6443

I like Sia....real utility, no hype driven nonsense. Cloud storage that's way more private than the big names like AWS or Google. With everything shifting towards decentralization and privacy becoming a huge deal, SC is in a really solid position. What I like is that it hasn’t been some pump and dump altcoin, it’s stayed relevant, even in rough markets, and you can see it’s been steadily trending up over time. Right now, prices are consolidating, and the charts make it look like a breakout could be on the way as the markets pick up. It’s not one of those flashy coins you hear everyone yelling about, but that’s why it stands out. It’s solid, under the radar, and actually useful. Not financial advice, but it might be worth a closer look. DYODD.

Powerful_Tooth6443

I like Sia....real utility, no hype driven nonsense. Cloud storage that's way more private than the big names like AWS or Google. With everything shifting towards decentralization and privacy becoming a huge deal, SC is in a really solid position. What I like is that it hasn’t been some pump and dump altcoin, it’s stayed relevant, even in rough markets, and you can see it’s been steadily trending up over time. Right now, prices are consolidating, and the charts make it look like a breakout could be on the way as the markets pick up. It’s not one of those flashy coins you hear everyone yelling about, but that’s why it stands out. It’s solid, under the radar, and actually useful. Not financial advice, but it might be worth a closer look. DYODD. ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check import

Ok-Damage-6173

Hold on, I went home and mined on my personal PC. It was a gaming rig with a voodoo card for diablo 2 LOD and SC1. Is there a chance.... now I know it may be slim.... But could I recover this information? If I obtained the PC today it has been wiped already. The original hard drive is still there. What's my odds? This was in 2009-2010 before I graduated. I left the PC on for about 4 hours mining, it had a pentium 4 in it aswell I believe, and I was using windows 95. Obviously if it's recoverable I will attempt to have it done by a professional, but is there even a slim chance? Anyone know? Ty! 

Future-Tomorrow

Because they're not a survey designer so it never crossed their mind that they should have used MC vs SC.

InclineDumbbellPress

Laughs in French 

TheMissingNTLDR

ok. SC's bags are now full.

pakovm

For it to be called an on-chain DEX as they are on SC platforms, that's all! Nobody wants that but that's what needed to fit the definition.

A1JX52rentner

Will be dead in 5 years just like every other SC

Aerocryptic

Meh you can't anticipate how the next cycle will play out. What eth and all the SC networks lack is more use cases. Defi is cool but pretty limited. Now that the infra is mostly built, devs should focus on apps

Si1verhour

I'm still sitting on a couple million each of SHIB, TONIC and ELON that haven't had any movement in forever. I honestly thought SC was going somewhere, but unfortunately that hasn't broken out like expected.

BrianGooner

$SC Sia coin

Mc_Shame

Those checks and balances haven't really been working ok all that well, see the SC lol Either way, I'm Canadian, living in Canada. Doesn't matter to me 🤷‍♂️. I mean saying that I suppose US politics DOES affect us a decent amount. We have our own shit show up here anyways. Not a single good option. At least our system allows for coalitions. Means sometimes if we're divided enough, we get some good from multiple platforms, as multiple parties have to play give and take.l

fullthrottle303

Why is hyperbolic language hilarious? I wouldn't call anti-abortion policies "laws that lead to increased female deaths" either. Seeing as how about half of the babies aborted are female. I don't recall ever advocating for increased government intervention for any reason, let alone abortion. I don't believe it's difficult to see both sides of the argument though. I was unaware that only the right used tactics to get their base up. The left truly is a marvel I guess. Odd that we keep hearing about how Tump is going to outlaw abortions federally, despite the SC deciding it's a state issue. Surely dems aren't just riling up their base. Like when they try to paint everyone who disagrees with them as racist, exist, homophobic, and a Russian Asset. Social security, medicare, and medicaid are socialist programs. I don't hate socialism, I think it has proved itself to be bad for people over time. Nearly 2/3 of democrats have a positive view of socialism. I think that's bad. If you don't, then I guess we disagree, but only you are mad about it.

PXaZ

Disagreeing with the commissioner doesn't constitute "cause", if I understand correctly. I'm sure Trump will try to do the removal, and it will go to court. Looks like it's pretty unsettled: [https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/sec-for-cause-removal-protection/](https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/sec-for-cause-removal-protection/) Not to mention the recent overturn of Chevron deference means the SC is more skeptical of agency-made rules.

Aerocryptic

Bruh quit your bs. You're not every crypto investor nor do you know the intention of the whole community. Eth is the first SC turing complete decentralized network, enabling many use cases such as trading permissionless or useing eth as a collateral for permissionless loans. If you don't see any difference with a simple token, you should go back to r/bitcoin and stop talking about alts altogether

Ungrateful_bipedal

Shark Cat $SC

Aerocryptic

Bruh i’ve been in crypto before eth launched its first SC

YogurtclosetTall2558

This is a great breakdown of crypto portfolios based on utility. Here are some additional thoughts: * Data Privacy Focus: Maybe a portfolio focusing on data privacy in blockchain could be interesting. Projects like Ocean Protocol (OCEAN) before its merger or Fetch .ai (FET) could be relevant. * Personalization: It's important to consider your own investment goals when building a portfolio. * There are several interesting projects in the Decentralized Data Storage space, like Filecoin (FIL) and Siacoin (SC). * Some casual mobile games are exploring blockchain integration. Akarun, for example, is a running game that uses smart contracts to manage its in-game economy. Do you think these sectors will become more mainstream in the future, or will they remain niche areas within the crypto ecosystem?

TheFlamingoPower

I agree with you, but SC platforms have value, especially the ETH project, and a meme is created in a day and can provide nothing more. See the difference?

TripleReward

SC? Definitely. NFTs? Nope.

Marcusnovus

Sweet. There's 10 BTC ATMs in Simpsonville SC within a 2mi radius

satoshiwife

There's no defi on KASPA atm and team is working on SC Also all L1s and L2s are driven by Airdrop meta. Remove Airdrops and you will see reality. I completely stopped using ZkSync after the airdrop

deshe

Glad to have made your acquaintance :) > I'm guessing that means UTXO-style smart contracts similar to how Ergo and Cardano are doing them? If so, then yes, it wouldn't be too hard since nodes would basically just need to run through the script Nope, general contracts. GHOSTDAG provides rapid ordering and then you can process the chain the same as you do in e.g. Ethereum. Sharded architectures create data availability issues that require designing the SC abstraction around them. When the consensus layer returns a chain you don't run into these issues. > Personally, I think a rollup is a fine solution. I'm curious how it would design its smart contract execution layer. Is it going to remain UTXO-based (similar to Bitcoin/Cardano/Ergo) or switch to account-based (like EVM)? Again, you can do whatever you want as if you just had a chain. ZK rollups give you a very generic way to settle that only requires posting locally verifiable proofs to the ledger. (Also, EVM is much more than the abstract account model.)

jarviez

This is the correct answer, no "? mark" needed. ... though you would have to probably also sift through a lot of past court cases that establish capital gains as *"incomes, from whatever source derived"*. So, for good or not ill, capital gains on Bitcoin are just the legal reality until and unless the SC0TUS some day overturns capital gains as taxable income, ... a possibility that I think is EXTREMELY unlikely because it wouldn't pass the "history and tradition" test that Justice Thomas has (thankfully) instituted in his recent 2nd amendment decisions. Basically the 16th am we ratified to the Constitution in 1913. The federal government has had capital gains taxes since 1913 (& some states may have had it before, I.D.K.). This would indicate that from the very first days of the 16th amendment taking effect it was interpreted to include profits obtained from selling an asset. So if it hasn't been declared unconstitutional in the last 111 years, you can't argue that you, in 2024, understand the construction so much better than those who wrote and first enforced the amendment back on 1913.

RadicalArugula

Kaspa, kaspa, and Kaspa. Top 30 coin, not even tier 1 listed ... yet. Krc20 token is about to drop with dexs and SC.

TheFlamingoPower

I'd say that it will soon go to ATH, as well as most of the top projects from Oracle, AI, Data, SC... my focus is also on Link, Bnb, Ocean, Egld, Inj. Adoption is close guys, what do you think?

MelodicAbrocoma429

Thanks for your thoughts, appreciated. By blockchain I meant smart contracts to manage P2P sales between users, all having economic incentives to act honestly during a sale. SC are running on a chain. I was just suggesting the general idea here, so I kept it global without going into the specifications/details. If that sounds better to you, we use a distributed ledger to process transactions - all while implementing several mechanisms/security layers (e.g. ZKP) to avoid a vital need for trust on the platform. You can check out our latest short research paper here - [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369237685\_An\_Efficient\_and\_Decentralized\_Blockchain-based\_Commercial\_Alternative](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369237685_An_Efficient_and_Decentralized_Blockchain-based_Commercial_Alternative) Your opinion/input is more than welcome!

TheFlamingoPower

Lucky for you that you don't enter much without basic knowledge. My advice to you is to study, do a lot of research, you can invest later when you have researched a project well. Bitcoin must learn how it works, from SC platforms Eth, Sol, DeX eg Uniswap, FHE Sight AI, bridge Alchemy, and that's it for a start, don't look at NFT and memes now because it's more gambling than a real investment in my opinion.

FixedGearJunkie

I remember. I still made out ok buying a used SC (I think). Ran it "at a loss" for a while. Still got half a coin out of it.

Chancoop

The Federalist Society is much more responsible for that one. Sure, the president makes the pick from a list, but the list is made by Federalists. That organization has been working towards overturning Roe for 40+ years, and every Republican president makes picks from their recommendations. It was kinda inevitable that was going to happen as soon as enough SC judges died or retired under a Republican. The appointment of Garland being blocked, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg refusing to retire under Obama, were far more consequential to Roe in my opinion.

-Sonmi451-

Any touristy beach town/city should do. Atlantic City NJ, Ocean City MD, Virginia Beach (VA, obviously), and Myrtle Beach SC come to mind. Idk about the West Coast. I'd assume the same applies to any big seasonal tourist attractions in the middle of the country. Waiting tables at restaurants can make you big money, especially if it's an expensive seafood place.

TheFlamingoPower

Maybe not ETH, but I believe that some SC platform accepted by the states will, that's the only way... By the way, I would also take a look at Asi, the merge of Ocean Protocol... AI technology will also be at the top.

Electronic_Topic_221

It needs a blockchain to record the usage time in a way which you can't temper with so user and renter can verify it. Keep in mind that SC are still in there infant stage - it's crazy when you look up about upgradeable smart contracts. But okay Let's make an example out of it: Imagine you rent a 3d-printer in a production site, others do that to. So you only pay for the 3d-printer while u use them. As soon as ended others have the opportunity to use the free production capacity. Payment via smart contract automatization, record of usage time via blockchain. Make it's more efficient to use the machine, reduces offline time, makes it more efficient to create value/reduced cost with machine usage. And blockchain to prevent errors while payment calculation

JerseyJimmyAsheville

Love da Kraken! Also love a local rum called “The sleeping Giant” from a distillery in Rock Hill, SC. It is 30% alcohol (60 proof) and theee smooooothest rum I’ve ever had! Look it up!

TheFlamingoPower

BTC certainly as the main one, ETH as the main SC platform and I would single out, for example, the Oracle projects Link, Dia, which are necessary for adoption. Certainly BTC is the only one that is fully decentralized and I keep it the most.

BlazingPalm

It’s very simple: yes, it is more complicated and “scary” to self-custody. But it’s not too bad once you get a hang of it. Contrast that with holding on custodial accounts: security/access is fine for years until one day they simply disclose they are insolvent/have been hacked/have been taken over by the govt. Done. It’s happened to countless crypto owners. It can happen to Coinbase, it can happen to Gemini, it can happen to Binance, CDC, etc It WILL happen again. When is hard to say, but now is a great time (the best!) to learn more, get comfortable, and take self custody. It needs to be done. There are options if you’re worried about your SC abilities, but get off the custodial accounts starting now.

tika_dengu

SC ruling on Trump will be bullish for crypto, we may finally break out of the 60s.

Affectionate-Bread84

If someone commits self-immolation in American culture or any violence then their political views become irrelevant. (Southeast Asia is a little different in that it is accepted as a legitimate extreme act of protest). However, name the crazy person whether they shot up a baseball game or a Buffalo supermarket or SC church or a San Berdinino work event; you can find crazy people all over the political spectrum. It really says nothing about their beliefs. I wish people would see it as a mental health issue rather than a political one. I’m not sure what this guy’s beliefs were, left or right or whatever, he was bound to light himself on fire when gone unchecked.

SSlimee_

I bought at $Powches, ATH and I’m not worried at all. (SC’s to prove it) That is how much I have faith in this and how much this means to me and my future. After countless and countless giveaways, they have have given so much to us. They reassure us everyday that we are here to stay and that we going to the billions. We have guys losing thousands on thousands and they haven’t sold a penny. They did not panic sell because they now we will come back stronger. I appreciate what you have done for us Dev and what you will do!🔥

parkranger2000

https://youtu.be/x_mIzbYH9BU?si=RK2TLcJKcIHgrDMW https://youtu.be/fVLxAiX-Gn0?si=Xcn91pt6tSNayOgO https://youtu.be/TI3Xcei8d_I?si=MXhXX4SC2Rq34KAB

Harleychillin93

Sovryn allows decentralized SC loans on your btc

-irx

Cool, but you could always do SC on BTC (hint: they are not called smart contract). How do you think you make layer 2 on BTC without SC lol? But to be fair they sucked and was very difficult to do. I heard it's easier after the upgrade but I haven't really looked into it.

imrickjamesbioch

Um, I would take any politician comments, regardless if they are progressive or conservative with a grain of salt. As they’re ALL and I mean all, especially a US senator are bought and paid for by corporations. An of course corporations hate crypto cuz there’s currently no regulations where the can control and manipulate the crypto exchanges like they do with the stock market. If she or any politician that actually gave 2 chits about the will of the people, they would be fighting to introduce new laws to reverse the decision by the SC on citizens united and stop corporations from make donations to political campaigns and buy elections/politicians.

johnfintech

I mentioned the stuff below in a reply in this thread, but not sure if it's burried. In a few replies in here I argued against solutions that rely on multiple 3rd parties, especially email, and pointed out some fallacies regarding "reliability" of systems, since they are memoryless probabilstic processes. When you have a lot at stake (e.g. your wealth that you want passed on) then you do want to eliminate all traces of bad luck. As a dev, btu also cypherpunk, I have been looking into fully trustless solutions, preferrably on-chain (but on paper can be achieved too, I won't get into that). Bitcoin natively supports time locked transactions (not something this sub would know) and can implement such a dead man switches (the coins are sent to the pre-defined bitcoin address, e.g. your children's, unless you cancel it periodically). The Liana wallet came out of beta recently and has this: [https://wizardsardine.com/liana](https://wizardsardine.com/liana) There is [killcord.io](https://killcord.io) and [sarcophagus.io](http://sarcophagus.io) on Ethereum. If you have the dev skills, you can code your own smart contract (SC) on Ethereum to avoid worrying about SC exploits of publicly known SCs, e.g. could use killcord as starting point.

johnfintech

First, kudos to you for actually asking instead of getting snarky (even if you downvoted). I have been looking into fully trustless solutions, preferrably on-chain instead of paper. Bitcoin natively supports time locked transactions and can implement such a dead man switch (the coins are sent to the pre-defined bitcoin address, e.g. your children's, unless you cancel it periodically). The Liana wallet came out of beta recently and has this: [https://wizardsardine.com/liana](https://wizardsardine.com/liana) There is also Sarcophagus on Ethereum. Once could also use [killcord.io](http://killcord.io) - or if you have the dev skills, you can code your own smart contract (SC) on Ethereum to avoid worrying about SC exploits of publicly known SCs.

kaiserwilhelmthe4th

I've seen a couple that were interesting for long term. Do you have any specific recommendations? Check out SC. I could be wrong, but I think that was a botched IPO that has long term potential. I still have a few coins I held. I will go back and look at it. If my memory is correct and the price is correct, id go back and buy more to hold JIC.

CryptoInvestor

My personal suggestions - Ethereum (ETH), Polkadot (DOT), Litecoin (LTC), Injective (INJ) and Siacoin (SC). You can stake ETH, DOT and INJ which will earn you more tokens year after year. Crypto isn't going anywhere anytime soon and I am increasingly leaning towards staking for long term rewards/upside. I think a Litecoin ETF is quite likely in the not too distant future (after ETH). The recent CFTC ruling on Litecoin being a commodity has more importance than most people understand. Sia is a project I am passionate about and have been for years. They are building the decentralised storage network to support the Web 3.0 future. Relatively low cap, but well funded and they have had a working product for years (and I have used it every day for years).

OriginalPancake15

They hyped up smart contracts as being an ETH killer. The narrative was strong and a lot of us did a 4x on this news alone. Then the SC came and nothing came from it. The downward spiral began. Solana’s crash is very different.

njamimaranga

I'll give you one coin . That will do x3 in a span of 2-3 weeks . Sia Coin (SC) -$0.0108 Rank No : 145 Expected value by end of month - $0.03 It's a cloud storage .

njamimaranga

Three of my coins in Jasmy ,Super and FET are on top gainers with over 25%. I'm soo anxious. Sia coin (SC) do something

olduvai_man

To be fair, as is evidenced on this subreddit everyday, all communities have some weirdos in it lol. I do think it can be a viable long-term hold, particularly as they work to implement DAGKNIGHT and smart contracts. It's an equitably distributed L1 PoW that can actually scale without centralization or vulnerabilities in security. The founder is one of the OGs of crypto, whose work was implemented in ETH, ADA and numerous other projects in this space. This subreddit absolutely hates it though, probably because of the hype community. Personally, I think it's going to continue to one of the best performing assest in the entire space through the bull-run and beyond. Security/hardness of BTC, with significantly improved scalability and possibility for SC that can be MEV-resitant and avoid a lot of the things that have plagued ETH.

jawni

>I think a lot of people make the connection primarily because of the DAG, but they differ in both degree and kind so much that I don't think they are even remotely comparable Was only comparing the tech at a surface level, it's the combination of all the other factors that make it feel like Nano to me. >Ultimately, I think it does enough right to warrant it's current price appreciation and hype but it is not without issues (like all projects in this space). I feel like many people felt the same way about Nano in 2017. A $4B coin needs more substance than just good tech and good founder. Every chain feels that they have the best tech, but not every chain has the same level of engagement from the industry/community. And to be quite honest, 99.999% of people aren't qualified to evaluate "which tech is best", so I generally don't put much weight into the idea that the tech is better until there are better indicators like engagement (which won't be easy to gauge until SC go live). Just a little too unproven with too much potential downside(price wise) for me at the moment. I did just get a new computer though, is it GPU or CPU mineable? Maybe I'd mine some and mess around with it.

olduvai_man

I think a lot of people make the connection primarily because of the DAG, but they differ in both degree and kind so much that I don't think they are even remotely comparable (not so speak on Nano's centralization/scalability/etc). Regarding SC, I believe that Kaspa will have 1 more opcode compared to BTC, which will enable ZK rollups and it's currently in development on the team but probably won't be implemented until DAGKNIGHT has been implemented (rightly so). Your last point is a good one, and something that Yonatan has commented on quite a bit in the project's discord chat and presentations online. It's a legitimate concern and the network does need consistent growth unless a more drastic solution is implemented (probably will not be well-received). I think that's probably the part of the project that is the most concerning, but I think it's not an intractable problem to solve. Ultimately, I think it does enough right to warrant it's current price appreciation and hype but it is not without issues (like all projects in this space).

-z1r0h-

Siacoin $SC

flsurf7

I'm looking at the all time chart. It looks pretty damn juicy to me. It seems like we have different trading styles though. Its up 150% for me since April and already taking profits (trading SC/BTC pair)

flsurf7

Yeah, I've never seen it mentioned either. I traded some BTC for SC in April which is up 150%. Sold 85% of it back to BTC already, but was more curious about what I may do with that remaining 15%... For now I'm just inching that stop loss higher and higher.

flsurf7

I'm sorry man. I traded some BTC for SC back in April, which is up 150% since then. My style of trading is completely chart based. The price action/chart actually looks very clean and predictable, so it was a pretty easy trade to execute. I was curious if anyone else had any back stories, but it seems like it's just a pump and dump that's been around for a while and still used today.

set-271

I was an investor back in 2017 and made some cheddar. But by 2019, the project has been very quiet and overshadowed by other similar crypto's. Haven't ever heard from SC since, except now. The idea of decentralized storage is pretty kewl, but it seems still too early to make a dent in the market. Could be wrong...I just don't hear about it at all like I used to.

robeewankenobee

Ok, i see ... I guess a safer tactic is to, first of all, not lock 90% of your holdings in a SC on a dapp. Sorry for the loss, but an important lesson was learned.

flsurf7

I found this crypto chart interesting. SiaCoin. SC is up 290% on the year, 38% this month, with a $1B market cap, and charts back to 2017. The socials are very quiet on SC though.. anyone know anything about SC?

hiredgoon

This cycles SC because all it has is scams and shitcoins.

Tarskin_Tarscales

Ok, fair point, thought you meant that SC wasn't possible in the ecosystem hence my comment.

Knerd5

Except it wouldn’t be easy and I get tired of seeing that said In this sub. Gold was legal tender and the backbone of the USD in 1933. Bitcoin is neither of those things and any attempt to pull 6102 v2 would immediately get challenged in court. I would imagine this version of the SC would not be down for that.

MasterpieceWild8880

Hopefully the SC over turn Chevron. It would really knock down the SECs powers.

takeitinblood3

> will get overturned because the Fed owns the SC It would get overturned because the president can't EO monetary policy. But the fed owning the SC sounds nicer.

j4_jjjj

And the EO will get overturned because the Fed owns the SC

unluckywasp

The point of A verified SC is to literally not be changed at will. Once deployed and verified and it's done. Only way to change that is migrating assets from one to another contract with approvals.

robeewankenobee

Yeah, Utxo , a working model doesn't work ... that makes sense :) . Also, did you try a Cardano dapp? Or you take other people's words? It's not slow, it's not expensive ... the end. It's not under the min fast, ok, but who cares i have to wait 5 min instead of 1 min for SC interactions?

frankvagabond303

I hold some top 20 shit coins. Once they go back up I will sell them. My "I hope this comes true" plan is that when the bull run is in full effect, some of these shit coins will increase more in percentage than BTC. Once the SC is in the green, I will sell them when they have increased the same percentage as BTC has from this point to that theoretical point. Unless the percentage is too high. Then I'll probably just sell whenever, as long as it's in the green. Once sold, I'll buy more BTC. After going through two bear markets, I've learned a lot. I'm only going to put more money into BTC. I have ETH that I will just hold, I probably won't buy anymore. I will still probably occasionally gamble on a SC. But, not anything serious, literally just pump and dump bets. Hahaha!

slykethephoxenix

Jokes on them I SC my shitcoins too.

Right_InTwo

Dont forget the fact that its design is wrong. A click on a bad SC or phising page and all your funds gone.

MajorBonesLive

He kept Garland off the SC. That was super effective.

apkatt

>*A SOL holder*, literally the epitome of how this subreddit is full of 50 IQ people who have no idea what they’re talking about. The tokenomics are terrible, to put it nicely. The hardware/bandwidth requirements to run a validator severely limits who can afford to be one. The blockchain can be turned on/off at the will of the devs. The page you linked to is an absolute joke, they list PulseChain, an **actual scam** associated with Richard Heart/HEX – but not Cardano, the second biggest SC platform that is actually designed to be fully decentralized. The Blockchain Lab at Edinburgh University is working on an objective measurement of all aspects of blockchain decentralization: https://www.ed.ac.uk/informatics/blockchain/edi

hshnslsh

Eeww, SC based assets. Native tokenization is the only way

monkeyhold99

Yes, we’re soo“simple minded”.. Meanwhile you’re here on a *bitcoin* sub speculating about a potential civil war because the Colorado SC followed the 14th amendment. And it’s ballot, not ballet, clown. 🤡

Cantrillion

I couldn't find the Kerry quote you were alluding to, as "stop producing food or people will starve" seems to be a self-contradictory paraphrase. Legit didn't understand what you were saying. Was it this? [https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N3771SC/](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N3771SC/) I don't dispute that there is a concerted push away from animal husbandry (though I don't think it will work). I grew up on farmland and own one now. Sorry small scale farming is out of your reach. The societal collapse narrative motivates a lot of bitcoiners, though if society collapses, BTC isn't the asset you want to stockpile. I'm sure you can figure out what will be reached for first.

PJ7

There's plenty of other projects with legitimate use cases, but still almost no one knows about them yet. Their main function for now is within their own systems though, not as speculative assets. But VET, BAT, OPCT, NANO, SC, XRP, XLM, HBAR and MATIC/POL all have legitimate projects with legitimate use cases.

laserwolphe

Compared to the ATHs there are a lot. CRO, DOT, SHIB, CELR, ELON, SC, XLM, ADA... the list goes on and on

PhotonicDestroyer

There are SC platforms that look better long term though BUT IM NO SHILL!

CityBusDriverBitcoin

[Visiting angel gabriel](https://youtu.be/KT_cHi8QJMw?si=-mh4SC1s3AN6fBjM)

Aerocryptic

Yeah ada reached $90B without SC but it was a close release at that time and the landscape was really different. I know the imortance of a strong community and KAS surely has one. I'm just a bit skeptical of its ability to continue on climbing the MC ladder when it's just a coin with an efficient consensus but without any utility added. We'll see, i'm not invested on this one but i'll keep an eye on it

TypicalHog

IMO. Bitcoin is huge because it's the first. A pretty big part of the Bitcoin community are unhinged Bitcoin maxis. It really turned into a toxic cult. Bitcoin is arguably somewhat too conservative when it comes to upgrades and improvements. SC on the L1 are pretty much not possible (and we know they can be done safely on UTXO blockchains because of Cardano's EUTXO). Bitcoin doesn't have any on-chain governance AKA if you hold BTC - your voice in the future development and direction of the protocol kinda doesn't matter. Miners and devs are the main entities who decide stuff. Bitcoin is PoW (10k to 100k times more energy intensive than PoS) and we know PoS can be done in a decentralized and secure manner (see Cardano once again). What will Bitcoin do to secure its network (pay the miners) once the inflation dries up - I actually wonder. Either, it would have to have a TON of low fee TX per second. Or it would have to have an absolutely outrageously high fees per TX with low TPS. ASICs make the block production increasingly more centralized as you can't really compete without buying expensive ASICs (which are all produced by a couple companies btw) and to be competitive - you need to have a huge mining farm (economies of scale). More than 50% of block production is controlled by just 2 mining pools. I also have a vibe (maybe I'm crazy idk) that Bitcoin has kinda been captured and crippled. LN is also not the ultimate solution to Bitcoin's scalability if you really do some research on it. Ethereum is huge because of its first mover advantage and a huge amount of USDT fraud liquidity. Also, CCP is (indirectly) behind it - so take that as you wish (@BoringSleuth on X is exposing the EXTREMELY concerning stuff about Ethereum and more). And Ethereum staking is IMO objectively garbage (compared to Cardano) and causes centralization of block production and low participation rates. Ethereum is also really hard to scale/shard on the L1 because of the EVM's non-deterministic, global state nature, also makes L2s and sidechains harder, btw. And it's really, really hard to write a vulnerable SC in Solidity (yes, it's pretty expressive, but very, very insecure). Supply is also not hard capped, technically. Solana has literally given up the security/stability and decentralization for TPS. There are also stong indications it has been created to make FTX rich/get more customers. FTX has a HUGE bag of Solana and will be dumping it to like 2027 (vesting). Solana's TVL has been faked by 2 brothers who have created most DeFi protocols on it pretending to be different anon teams. Look it up. Solana also has slashing and you can in fact lose your stake if you are not careful. And running a node has a REALLY high entry barrier. Cardano (the only L1 I vibe with) has taken a slow and steady approach and it absolutely don't want to compromise on security or decentralization. Cardano community values these things a LOT. Cardano is doing things slowly, TVL small but growing slowly even in the depths on the bear market. There are clear plans how to scale L1 without compromising decentralization, stability or security. 2024-2025 is gonna be the year when it transitions to a fully decentralized on-chain governance. The block production is already very decentralized and will only be increasing (35 different entities control top 50% of the block production, even both Binance and Coinbase combined only add up to like 12%). Cardano's SCs are somewhat more limited then Ethereum's, but that's not a bug, that's a feature. And are way more capable then Bitcoin's. Cardano is based on UTXO, just like Bitcoin - since UTXO is extremely easy to scale/shard and do L2s and sidechains and whatnot (compared to stuff like the EVM). Cardano still doesn't have a lot of L2s and sidechains like Ethereum because Ethereum is the first mover, but that's slowly changing. Cardano will also have Hydra (which is kinda like Bitcoin's LN, but on steroids, supports SCs the same way as L1 does, it won't solve all of scalability but will def help). Cardano might be the fastest decentralized L1 out there once it gets Input Endorsers. Staking model is (I'd argue) the best one out there. You NEVER lock your ADA while staking, you can NOT lose it either - (you can only lose out on rewards if you are not doing your job correctly). You can relatively easily solo stake, or delegate to a pool of your choice. Staking is a no-brainer thing every single user should do since it literally has NO risk at ALL when it comes to your staked balance (which is never locked to remind you again - native liquid staking). That's why 63% on all ADA is staked - cause it's a no brainer. And each ADA you own will be a vote in the on-chain governance. The supply is also hard capped just like Bitcoin. And you can write SCs in Plutus (Haskell essentially) or Aiken (based on Rust), Python and in the future - way more languages. You can also participate in staking (by delegating) with pretty much any amount of ADA. And inflation (new coins) are pretty much equally distributed to all staked balances. (No rich get richer - everyone is getting new ADA and ADA from fees at the same rate). You ATM get 3.5% a year on 100 ADA or 1k ADA or 1M ADA or 100M ADA. It's not like in Bitcoin or Ethereum when you already have to be rich to harvest the fees and inflation thus getting more of it then people with less money and resources. Also, at least so far Cardano has way, way weaker connections to the Tether fraud cartel. I'm 100% sure I missed certain points for all of the L1s, but I did my best to dump the main things that came to mind.

Spitspathat

I get that, but we’ve seen stablecoins depeg time and time again, and never in a good direction. So that’s why I don’t understand them. I’ll take BTC/ETH any day of the week, but it just seems way too sketchy to hold SC long term.