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web1162

It’s MT5

footofwrath

Hahah. Yeah. Actually I was looking for a tool like MT4 that allows multiple positions on a single instrument. Not strictly for that reason, but similar..

Possible_Garage8923

Yes i have a ledger wallet and a onekey wallet its very easy to transfer to basically as easy as sending anywhere else. You can youtube how to do it and do a test send of a lower amount before you send your whole balance. But IMO if you have under 20K worth of BTC/crypto id say keeping on coinbase is fine. Its an established public company so they have to disclose financial info. Meaning the chance of something like happened (and you losing your Bitcoin) with MT Gov, FTX, Voyager ect is super low with Coinbase. However this is always a chance of something happening either internal (Coinbase fails for whatever reason) or external (an example would be the government issues an order to seize your assets which would include your coinbase account). Once you get to a certain value it just makes sense to get a cold wallet and really for any amount if you want and are interested in doing so. They make perfectly good wallets for under $100 so it’s really not a big cost.

EvaUnit_03

ETFs started last cycle. Strategic reserves started the cycle before that, but a few more did come into play the previous cycle. The first big players started talking about making one this cycle, but have had one for years. MT NOX has been around since the silk road was closed, and every cycle the same FUD goes around about the US finally selling. Now the US is offically claiming its going to HODL, after HODLing for more than 12 years. More are occuring, but not at a rate that really is going to impact the market. I dont think any of the big EU countries have talked about it, china 'banned bitcoin again' last year, I dont even know wtf india is doing at this point, theyve been all over the board. Smaller nations are started to do it. in 2016, banks were literally refusing to let people move their money to 'protect them' from cryptos. in 2020, banks were fully open to you moving your money to exchanges. in 2024, banks started offering you the ability to buy bitcoin from THEM, meaning they were accruing it in the previous cycles in order to have a reserve. But not all the banks are doing it, and they arent just allowing ANYONE to buy it. ETFs typically have a set buy amount, so you cant just go into wells fargo and buy 30 bucks of bitcoin ETFs. This is just a regular cycle. And it wont break that curve until the market is hyper regulated. Just like how stock markets used to do the same thing.

ChesterDoraemon

Mostly an anglo boogey man fiction. They already detonated nukes under water, on land, in the atmosphere, in space. And they detonated 50MT. Guess what, most of the people at the time didn't notice and the world moved on. WW3 is just a threat to anglo-colonialism with impunity. It'll be rough for everyone involved, but the west stands to lose the most.

ChesterDoraemon

Mostly an anglo boogey man fiction. They already detonated nukes under water, on land, in the atmosphere, in space. And they detonated 50MT. Guess what, most of the people at the time didn't notice and the world moved on. WW3 is just a threat to anglo-colonialism with impunity. It'll be rough for everyone involved, but the west stands to lose the most.

Full-Sound-6269

Buying bitcoin back then wasn't as easy as it is now, I tried and didn't buy because I couldn't find an exchange that didn't look like a scam website. And what if you bought and held it on MT.Gox, you'd have no bitcoin by 2015, lol.

4xfun

Start by understanding the problem. https://youtu.be/YtFOxNbmD38?si=NW-vNl67eYBc-_MT

Rshellnizzle

I have an MT-10 and I ride it far more often than my other machines, I love it.

1fastdak

I have wanted to get an MT09 for the last few years but I can't get myself to sell. Seven years of holding and I just cant do it. Hopefully when my wife finishes college next year Ill finally get one.

Most_Raccoon_587

MT

Superb_Ad4373

Could look at MT Pelerin. I had a quick look and they seem to accept clients from Bosnia

Radiant_Addendum_48

What do you mean by first vote ever though. Bitcoin reserve legislation is voted on and dead in OK, MT, ND, PA, SD, and WY. I’m not anti Bitcoin, just wondered what you meant by first vote ever. You mean first vote ever for OK? In that case yes. Shit, people need to learn and stop voting with fear about things they don’t understand yet. But whatever

LordRevelstoke

Team as in software developers. Integrating our internal systems with various rails at a Fortune 500 company. Biggest task now is converting from Swift MT format to MX. We also have api / xml and some older csv file integrations with Citibank, Bank of America and several other banks. In terms of third apart integrations we're doing a lot with Transpay. We use Ripple for couple of exotic currencies, The volume is very small. I don't short crypto so no skin in the game and hey XRP did 6X after Trump was elected while BTC did not even double, so not saying its useless; but I wouldn't rely on the money transmission aspect as an important factor in its value.

Hour_Flounder1405

it depends on a LOT of factors. If the classic stock markets tank (they are definitely overbought), then we might see investor by the troves move into bitcoin for safety (don't laugh, the future is a fickle project...what we consider sane and normal today, was weird and completely rejected just 10 years ago). That's one scenario. the other scenario speaks to what happens when central banks decide to buy bitcoin as a means to prop up currency, to stave inflationary monetary policy? in this scenario, very large holders of bitcoin could potentially simply chose not to ever sell bitcoin...this has the direct effect of causing the price to zoom way way up..simple supply and demand. but of course, there are some other scenarios that many just don't like to talk about either. With large nation states beginning to "own" bitcoin, will come the inevitable regulations....and that will change the rules...change how exchanges may operate...we are actually in the wild wild west and for better of for worse, we are mostly regulation free. when regulations come, as we have observed countless times, the individual investor is punished and the large institutions are given priority and favorable trading conditions. we are already starting to see some of this with ETF's...the entry into most of these ETF's are far beyond the means and cost prohibitive for the small indiv investor. Likewise, the CME has already introduced a significant influence over the retail price of BTC with their futures products. again, the small indiv investors is cost prohibited from making serious futures trades. and the last scenario is what I call black swan. there is really nothing that can prevent a collapse of crypto...at the end of the day, it's just a distributed encrypted data base...on servers...around the world. be it some digital anomaly, AI hackers, or just criminal activity, the entire crypto eco system is quite vulnerable to these kinds of catastrophic risks. just one simple war or act of sabotage and lights out. Or it can be much less sophisticated...as we have plenty of examples to chose from: MT. GOX, FTX, and many others...those are small beans compared to what happens when crypto becomes a household asset. we have no idea what these sort of risks are...there is no insurance protecting against them...again, regulation, for better or for worse, does not exist in this arena....that really should make people consider taking the risk seriously. I chose to invest in crypto but I do not ignore the risks...thus, my investment is highly diversified...and less than 10 percent is actually exposed to crypto. but this may change no matter what I chose to do. If crypto does become as big as some have imagined it can be, it will have a vast impact on all investments. I don't like the idea of that, but I believe it will happen over time. In my life there have been 4 major bubbles...and every single one of them, the economy recovered. However, never in my life has a crypto bubble occured that has had an impact of any serious level to the overall economy. And I believe that is coming. and probably sooner than we want to accept. like right now. at this moment in time. We are going to learn just how impactful the risk on asset known as crypto will be in the coming recession.

ArticMine

What am I missing here? Nothing. This could be the start of a real Bitcoin bear market not just a "drop". Bear markets can take a while. In 2011 the price of Bitcoin dropped from a high of 32 USD in June 2011 to a low of 2 USD in November 2011. This is a drop of ~94% https://www.statmuse.com/money/ask?q=bitcoin+price+2010-2011+chart One can estimate the Bitcoin all time low at about 0.0006 USD when it started trading in January 2010 (about six months before MT Gox ) this compares with the recent high of over 108000 USD. This is factor of over 10^8. On a Bitcoin in early 2010 was worth that a satoshi is worth today. There is extreme greed here, MSTR is a very prominent but not the only example. If this is a real bear market who know how low Bitcoin can fall.

fan_of_hakiksexydays

You have a point. We've had narratives about QT and QE, narratives about recession and global financial crisis after Covid, narratives about MT Gox, fear of nuclear war, war between China and Taiwan, Evergrand, crypto bans, stocks, regulation, and even Chinese new year. And what happened in the long run? Crypto kept doing its usual cycles no matter what, and pretty much ignored every single narrative. Narratives seem to work more on the short term fear for traders, not so much on long term cycles for investors.

Larryrroscoe

One more time: I have been in the securities business over 30 years, MBA in finance. Was a chief compliance officer overseeing the products 2000 representatives could market. Was there in the crash of 1987. Real stocks, real companies-they all came back. "You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig.", Sara Palin When you put money into crypto you are buying air! Congratulations to those who were lucky and got in before anyone knew what crypto really is. Same as the early investors of Tulip Bulbs, the airplane pilot game, and beanie babies. Please take your money and DCA (Dollar Cost Average) into the stock market, bond market, a little into precious metals, and if you really believe crypto is going to the moon, then ok put 5% into air. Over time, depending on your age and life expectancy.......you can't lose. NEVER This is a chart of the long term stock market 1987 to the present: [https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=Rj27dY5o&id=DCA2E7AA8752C8B6DE9CF513439BEA291F8CFB50&thid=OIP.Rj27dY5oCdyBvm9\_1wIPKgAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2finvestinghaven.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2023%2f08%2fstock\_market\_trend\_2024-1140x500.png&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.463dbb758e6809dc81be6f7fd7020f2a%3frik%3dUPuMHynqm0MT9Q%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=207&expw=474&q=stock+market+history+chart+2024&simid=608024953319810795&FORM=IRPRST&ck=91373E88AB722139357157DCB7C20590&selectedIndex=0&itb=0&idpp=overlayview&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=Rj27dY5o&id=DCA2E7AA8752C8B6DE9CF513439BEA291F8CFB50&thid=OIP.Rj27dY5oCdyBvm9_1wIPKgAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2finvestinghaven.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2023%2f08%2fstock_market_trend_2024-1140x500.png&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.463dbb758e6809dc81be6f7fd7020f2a%3frik%3dUPuMHynqm0MT9Q%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=207&expw=474&q=stock+market+history+chart+2024&simid=608024953319810795&FORM=IRPRST&ck=91373E88AB722139357157DCB7C20590&selectedIndex=0&itb=0&idpp=overlayview&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0) Hope you have a great day.

noxel

MT Gox and Microstrategy selling BTC… here we go 🥲

Environmental-Bowl43

MT GOX just sold $1B worth of BTC

Fragrant-Rip6443

Nothing will trump MT. Gox until..

Realdogxl

Man... I've been getting emails about the MT.GOX legal proceedings and supposed recovery funds for people who were stolen from for like idk... 10 years or so now.

cowboyography

As a lifelong MTGO player I still laugh at the MT Gox name

Training-Pipe-4726

A very lucky tourist indeed! My version of winning the lotto I guess? Actually I put in time to study it. Most of my studying of it made me even more skeptical, it simply wasn’t the same beast back in 2010 and the consensus and info available on it was very different. Unless you think somehow studying it could have prevented pitfalls like self custody fails or MT.GOX, Quadriga, FTX? My point is, with hindsight you can say “wow that’s a valuable asset that I would protect carefully”but back then it was literally just a niche thing that had potential. Nobody had the foresight, the options or the hardware we have today to HODL so confidently.

steakbbq

MT GOX is what steered me away from bitcoin. I remember spending a couple nights mining way back in the day. Did the math and realized I made less then the electricity cost to run my computer through the night. Turns out I would have made like $1500 a night if I woulda just said fuck it and kept mining, holding until today. Now, I think there is zero possibility I would have done like you and held everything until today. I was very poor and financially unstable back then, so I don't have regrets, in fact I would do all the things over again. I'm just happy now I see the power, and I'm invested, and I'm in for the long term. I also lost everything to MT GOX, only like $40 from mining, but still. Oh also the hardrive I woulda had my wallet on back then shit the bed. Its truly admirable the people who have the conviction to hold from 2013 until today. Not to mention the smarts to not fucking lose shit... Back then it was the wild west. No one was airgapping their shit, I mean I don't even think we hadd pass phrases haha. Shit has changed a lot, if I was a bit of a different person, I could have been never worried about money again. Oh well! Maybe in the future! I'm just waiting until I don't have to sell a single bitcoin for fiat. Thats what I want. I never want to deal with Fiat again. Looks like shit is headed that way every day too!

jujumber

At that time you likely would have bought it from MT Gox. You also would have likely left it held at MT Gox.

Superb_Ad4373

MT Pelerin

drwhorable

What is MT? Mr. Ieatballoonknot asked a question and i gave a concrete example, so im not sure how your comment relates to that

PuppyIover101

MT has no sales tax anyways.. so.. water is wet?

Bewt1

FTX... MT GOX... etc

DebuggingDave

The only thing I'm sure of is that I wouldn't store them on MT GOX.

esiob12

If your campus is on WA, ID or MT. I have your answer.

kirtash93

Its always a Florida Man 

sbounmy

Don't trust, Verify :) 1. The code is open source and using bitcoinjs-lib. But its true I will need to find trustful community member to "verify" 2. For FIAT payments through MT Pelerin, I had to register my company and passed their KYB. So any non-honest transaction reported they can close my integration

Financial_Design_801

NEW: MONTANA BITCOIN RESERVE BILL MT House Bill 429 would authorize up to $50m invested into ‘digital assets over $750b market cap’ i.e. Bitcoin, by July 15 2025. https://x.com/bitcoin_laws/status/1888284331963224120?s=46&t=ihVglVXC0BQSbw6j57EoaA

Soggy-Welder2265

Let’s take a look at the exchange’s Who is MT GOX Who is FTX Who is CRYPTOPIA Who is Blockchain Global Ask their customers about the gains 😂😂

Due-Risk-2414

Which broker do you recommend for weekend trading MT5 or MT4 BTC?

Sekpatakral

It is for this reason that I prefer to enter currency exchange through MT4. In forex you can take advantage of these opportunities beautifully, so for me it doesn't matter this high or low... But what there are people who invent to buy high is to sell low is gigantic or rather, gigantosque

ra246

I would like an MT10. or an S1000RR next in a perfect world. I'd struggle to justify the cost, though.

ra246

Or one single MT10 SP/S1000R!

throwaway_boulder

For RWA look at Algorand, used by [Lofty.ai](https://Lofty.ai). I made a video about it [here](https://youtu.be/SgPLXFwhZbY?si=UE2DJURsz-G0H3MT). I seriously believe Lofty will have billions in real estate on it over the next 5-10 years.

waldito

I was in Vancouver at a small underground BTC meetup. Dude next to me was adamant about not your keys not your coins. I took all off coinbase to a simple paper wallet. I already escaped MT.Gox out of a hunch. Never again trust an exchange. NYKNYC.

Past-Ride-7034

See MT Gox, Celsius and FTX.

YaBoiJim777

3:57 am MT / 5:57 am ET Just as the dawn is beginning and the first rays of light grace the east coast, bitcoin will finally hurdle over this milestone.

Re_LE_Vant_UN

Haven't been keeping up, MT GOX is almost done distributing already?

Successful-Salad4346

I was super excited about bitcoin and rushed to buy some but then when I saw it was already worth more than a dollar per coin I thought I missed it. I didn’t understand that 1BTC = 1BTC and I thought 1BTC was supposed to equal 1USD. My friends bought in at $10 and I thought they were crazy. They lost all of theirs in MT Gox because they didn’t understand bitcoin either.

excubitor15379

Us selling, don't worry it will recover. Wondering what's next after Germany, US, MT Gox...who's selling next?

Hellcat081901

Im going to address each of your points: BTC: It crashed 70%. Happens every single cycle. Not sure how the 2021-2022 bear market was any different than before. NFTs: A very small segment of the crypto market that may or may not be relevant going forward. Really doesn’t matter. Frauds: Been rampant in the crypto space since the start. Ever heard of MT. Gox? Been over 10 years since one of the biggest crypto frauds ever. Venture capital shitcoins: It’s pretty easy to see a token’s circulating supply and future token unlocks. If you don’t like having “billions” of locked coins dumped on you, then buy a token that has a high proportion of its max supply in circulation. Very easy. Memecoins: Again, another pretty irrelevant part of the market that is meant for pure gambling.

BlackjointnerD

1. I literally showed you the banks that are already partnered with ripple? [HSBC ](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hsbc-partners-ripple-owned-metaco-053432421.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJk6pIzKnQt6rFbwvKPuub6nyZMI2pHDOz6th6dCSkDG873jtwQBFVUJGzqy71MqOfiUFIEIgDn11WjYjy7im27_pUHL-RtLNu_sivSB7OK3K619W70a8Zm23bVy6GD3hWO2tSBWHfhIXvSuckveCn3J_ltZwCmc0fx3YR5MxNPb) [Standard Charter](https://www.sc.com/technology/assets/pdf/9-15-08-2016-Standard-Chartered-completes-strategic-investment-in-Ripple.pdf) 2. You still are having trouble understanding a tech stack. This Literally benefits ripple as a super dex/liquidity provider. Its main feature. Its what it was designed for. Chainlink and Swift connects to Finastra through its joint application manager. Which simultaneously connects to Ripplenet as a source of liquidity. Theres actually mutiple pathways but we are just focusing on this one. Payments is full of pathways actually. Banking software follows the one with least friction without bias. https://www.finastra.com/press-media/ripple-bring-blockchain-technology-finastras-banking-customers https://www.finastra.com/solutions/total-messaging Swift transaction Manager(Chainlink) <--> Finastra(Ripplenet) Swift still DOES NOT DO SETTLEMENT! It does MT103 payment messages through API. This is literally how it works. https://tipalti.com/payments-hub/swift-payments/#:~:text=swift%20payments%20are%20transactions%20made,between%20banks%20using%20swift%20codes Ripplenet GETS RID OF THE NEED FOR NOSTRO VOSTRO ACCOUNTS ON THE SETTLEMENT LAYER. Its designed to completely eliminate pre funding. https://www.finastra.com/sites/default/files/file/2022-11/resource-fusion-total-messaging-simplified-swift-connectivity-financial-messaging.pdf https://www.finastra.com/sites/default/files/file/2021-12/resource-ripplenet-via-fusion-total-messaging.pdf https://docs.ripple.com/payments-direct/user-interface/tutorials/batch/bank-ids/ https://docs.ripple.com/payments-direct/ripple-payments-direct/ Ripple and Finastra source XRP to facilitate transactions over the SWIFT network without needing a direct relationship between SWIFT and Ripple. Although they could in some instances where it makes sense. Finastra is one of the world’s largest fintech companies which supports various financial messaging standards, including SWIFT’s messaging system. Finastra’s use of RippleNet enables financial institutions to use blockchain for cross-border payments. Fusion Total Messaging can handle SWIFT messages, and if linked with Ripple’s network, it can route payments with XRP through the SWIFT system via intermediaries, essentially blending the two technologies. This sidestepped the challenge of directly partnering with all 11,000+ SWIFT members individually. Essentially powering payments without disrupting SWIFT’s existing infrastructure but still gaining access to its vast network. Even though they still partnered with the biggest banks around(some mentioned above) in the backend AND front end. So yes it does benefit them, it pretty much scaled their entire cross-border payments solution by leveraging existing infrastructure. So them going full speed on their portion to open up pathways next year is bullish for xrp and chainlink.

alphavicofficial

"Yes it works. I currently run a leveraged futures Bot with Martingale strategy with BTC and it works. There just needs to be continuous fluctuations (up and down) in BTC price." No it doesn't. This is what all MT4 EA's (bots) effectively are underneath - hence you see the huge gains on myfxbook. It will always go bang - there is no way around it.

Nifty29au

A 1MT nuclear weapon detonated in Manhattan.

Ozyybabychild

Heavy into btc, my time arising is 20 years so I just use dips to load up a tad more. Left some cash on the side in case the MT gox distribution will drop the price. In general, I’m following the 20 years cycle of the real estate, stock and coin

thefxmanCFD

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Hodltard

A true long hold is Tradebot. Hands down. Also, LAB even though price has been messed with by swing traders. These coins aren’t the swipes. TB, even when the market is red, stays steady. They are in a group called “Meme Trust” through The Professor ( LAB ). Vetted projects under the MT umbrella to give true investors some safety that they aren’t getting rugged. My two cents!

chicolateninger

Its not about Rugpulls only, whats about the MT Gox Scammer?

NFTbyND

Take out initial investment. Might work. Sometimes scammers allow you to take out a little bit first in the hope that you'll deposit way more the next time. But yeah obviously it's a scam. And MT5 is metatrader 5, a forex trading interface.

glitter_my_dongle

The biggest reason is that you would have tried another coin like one coin or bit connect or Celsius or terra Luna or FTX or got it through MT Gox and thus lost it. Or maybe you bought an NFT with the gains thinking it will moon. There is always a reason to sell. The goal here is and should be to keep it and not get bogged down with the noise because those who want to buy Bitcoin will not convince you by trashing it. Instead they will say hey look at this new one. Chase it. Then when you sell an asset to buy a more risky asset, it almost never ends well. Never sell something to buy something else until Bitcoin finds its stable point which it hasn't.

nicog67

Ftx people are getting their money back though. MT Gox got their BTC... Between getting scammed/hacked or losing your money because exchange implodes, the latter might have a higher chance of money recuperation

Mordan

Russia has become a powerhouse of agriculture. You can say its economy is insignificant.. That won't change the reality. The World's Top Wheat Exporters In 2021 Country Exports (1000 MT¹) 1 Russia 33 2 European Union 31 3 Australia 28 4 United States 22

krogothnyc

To add to what I just said....self custody is key to it all. Too many exchange train wrecks...start with MT Gox and the latest with Crypto exchange WazirX. People stop leaving your Bitcoin on exchanges! Never ever do that. Cold storage is the only way to go!

Difficult-Dig9582

A plethora of things happening all at once, MT.GOX, recession fears, middle east escalations, Japanese raising rates, 35T debt reached.

sixlayerdip

1) stop speaking about how much you have. No one needs to know and as the amount you own goes up the more who know increases security risk. 2) many long term bitcoiners will agree DCA is the way. If $100 is an amount you’re comfortable with then go for it. It seems counterintuitive but a regular set time to purchase will likely outperform trying to time the market with your DCA purchases. 3) if you insist on trying alternative cryptocurrencies and nothing going to stop you I suggest setting up a 2nd account for just this. Do your own research on your local tax laws and speak with an accountant before getting too deep though. It’s a murky world still and profits can get eaten quickly if you’re not careful I would HIGHLY suggest investing in a trezor hardware wallet if not a cold card wallet to hold your BTC in. Not your keys not your bitcoin is a reality that’s been shown numerous times(MT.Gox all the way to FTX) If you’re going to be holding long term you absolutely don’t want to trust a 3rd party to custody your coins

MrYoshinobu

I dont believe so as we've been flip flopping between 62K to 73K for months. Also, exchange BTC supply is being gobbled up and MT Gox fire sale is running out. *STRAP IN!!!*

Victorvnv

Most people who actually are educated on the subject already knew that the halving will have no effect For one , it was ridiculous that people thought that the second the halving happens , everyone and their grandma will jump and put all their money pumping bitcoin lmao For two, the halving have almost no impact on the inflation at this stage . Back when inflation was say 20%, halving meant reducing it to 10% which is a hhhe deal. But when inflation is already 1%, going down to .5% really is noting Then you also have the MT Gox payments which in fact increases the active circulating price for a lot more than what the halving event reduces it at least in the immediate future, thus negating any impact from the halving. Sure , bitcoin will be producing less coins in the next year but Mt Gox will be distributing a lot more coins than that within the same timeframe with the big difference that the Mt Gox customers are like 10-15x in profit with current prices while the miners who are mining the coins are about break even. So the gox customers are much more likely to be dumping their coins than the miners in general and again that new sell pressure will probably offset any impact that the halving would have had…

Rydog_78

Explain how that’s bullshit because users are pretty fucked if they lose their stack from user error or a hack. Yes, people who had their BTC in MT Gox at least are getting money back. FTX people are getting some money via Bankruptcy. I’m not saying there aren’t risks involved but the recourse to recover lost or stolen tokens from a personal wallet mishap is zilch. I don’t know the figure of people who lost through self custody but it’s gotta be close to a least close to even to those who lost on CEX or Mt. Gox.

trilister

MT. GOX MOVING $2.85B BTC [https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1815681016050147533](https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1815681016050147533)

Financial_Design_801

I want some MT Gox coins for my stack, those German coins from 2013 were 😋

DivyLeo

Not true. Been on COIN since 2017 - never had problems depositing or withdrawing. Must be something with your particular situation 🤔 They have millions of clients... If it was so bad, they would go bust long time ago. There are "easy" and convenient alternatives - Binance, FTX... MT Gox. Coinbase is alive and kicking. PS... Keeping coins on exchange is not a good strategy 😕... So move them to a reliable wallet. Problem is - too much scam out the in crypto, and proverbial "grandma" don't know which wallet is safe

ThatChrisGuy7

MT cocks is about to rain on the parade

DrSpeckles

An EA on MT5. You’ll enjoy it.

chloe_priceless

MT Gox is 0.15Bitcoin payout for every Bitcoin back then owned. And a lot of people also not selling. A lot of people will do self custody, not your keys not your coins (but you also have the law behind you, it’s your coins but only measured in Dollar back when something happens). So it only comes down to „Not your keys, not your coins (measured in the spot asset, only „your“ amount of value in $/€…)

chloe_priceless

Even with MT Gox left, people get 0.15BTC per BTC back .. and not all of them going to sell.

RedneckHippy76

Depends where you live. You want to make sure they can do business where you live. Coinbase, and BinanceUS before their MT license got pulled in my State ( a temporary set back I'm sure) You can also just "buy" and "sell" BTC on PayPal or Cash app. No trading or swapping. Simple though for just BTC. Just my observation Good Luck 🌍☮️🇺🇸🦅

AriesThef0x

Nice looks like a couple more days off selling at most. Now we can return all the FUD focus to MT.Gox

nachtraum

MT Gox was 10 years ago. FTX will come too, but it will take time.

DangerHighVoltage111

BCH is he better p2p cash, since it has become obvious that the LightningNetwork cannot deliver what it promised. Also in the MT Gox payout creditors will receive BCH and BTC 1:1 so it is in the news.

neda6117

Motorcycles suck and are too risky. I drove MT07 for 1 years,sold it. Too much shitty drivers around,everything possible on road is potential danger,sand on road,oil,curbs,front tire can slip so often. Only thing bike have is acceleration.. Cars are so much more fun especially in corners..

eastman884

For sure. Won't get to sub 30K most likely, but probably sub 50K. The MT Gox situation has until October. Probably September, most who would sell "low" will have sold. I bet we see a move back to 70k then. After Presidential election, regardless of who wins, I bet Bitcoin goes parabolic. It could take longer, we'll see, but by then halving really affecting mining, combined with likely regulatory clarity coming, combined with Mt Gox stuff being over- It should moon. Who knows though? Lol. It's a decent long term bet that anything below 60K is a good buy.

Notoriousrb

The market won't stop dumping until Germany, US and MT Gox have zero BTC left to sell. Change my mind.

Even-Yesterday9268

As a celsius loser, I stacked harder after the company went belly up. I understood the value only after the loses. I am sure MT Gox users would have 10 to 20x the stack in cold wallet than their prospective payout.

skyHIGH-1

I was hoping MT GOX would more back .

bananabastard

>sideways action Finally. You say something true. But it also nullifies everything you said previously. Again, you said. >Everyone knows that the price significantly rises up until the halving. Which is categorically false. The halving signifies the point at which people begin to expect a significant rise. The opposite of what you said. And... >it is also common knowledge that after the halving the price is going to cool down again. Not true. We typically get sideways action for some months after the halving. This cycle is the first time we hot an ATH before the halving, and it's been largely sideways action since then. So going on past behavior, if it's at 70k afround the halving, we can expect sideways action and then a significant increase. The current downturn is because of MT Gox news and governments dumping seized BTC. Not because of expected trends.

ultron290196

Max sell is 9 billion from MT gox. The fear made us dump much more than that. It's the reverse buy the news, sell the rumour

Eren-A

What does "MT. GOX" mean? Or refer to?

NoPea1663

Germany is dumping their seized Bitcoin and selling on retail exchanges rather than OTC. Bitcoin from MT Gox settlement is being dumped too. Retail investors responding to the FUD are dumping. I'm DCAing.

skyHIGH-1

It Germany has more BTC to dump that is one way to measure and also if MT GOX can disclose how much more money left to credit. I am sure someone savy can confirm since blockchain is public

Odd-Radio-8500

Nervous time, $2.7B has been moved from MT. GOX wallet. More volatility is coming.

satoshiwife

How many BTC MT Gox hold in total currently?

jwz9904

MT GOX screwing with everyone

Easymacsauce

Once Germany and the MT Gox gets settled price will go back up. I’m waiting until $52.5k to load back up. Unless I get the itch I’ll buy back in sooner.

Trader0721

Agree with the MT GOX sentiment…no one knows how much but I think it’s short lived (maybe dip through July…I probably start buying at 55k and proceed to bet the farm at 45k. equities ripping and inflation subsiding, there isn’t enough negative news for this to crash crypto fully.

893265

MT Gox got traders like that Thanos quote “Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same”

Leximpaler

MT GOX settlement

RedditTooAddictive

Anyone please got legitimate sources on : - MT GOX actions to happen - FTX actions to happen THanks!

njamimaranga

You have to kill me to make me stop believing . Bitcoin is on the verge of breakout. 22% down from top. But has only one job to do. Long Hodlers. And they only way is coming to a new low from the previous $56,500 . Maybe some new low like $55,000. And the 9 billion BTC , MT Gox is a good narrative .

GreedVault

If this dip is caused by the MT GOX repayment, I think we are safe. The market should have already factored in the MT GOX repayment dip and green will be back in no time!

vekypula

There is reason to dump, a very big reason actually. MT GOX

Realistic_Fee_00001

🤪🤪 You know, that BCH just needs 1 BCH supporter to outweigh 150 BTC supporters. And there are a lot of p2p cash OGs in MT.Gox ;) BCH will be fine. Also 3. is just WTF? Have you seen BCH development? They implemented OP codes 6 years ago BTCers are currently fighting a losing battle to get them into their code. They have covenants, tokens, smart TX. BCH scales with an algorithmic block size limit, totally self custodial, not like the failed an 95% custodial LN. Really the only thing holding BCH back are stupid sentiments like yours that are fed by the hate of BTC maxis. That's weighing down the the image and the price. But despite that it performed better than BTC in the last years. https://cryptodca.io/crypto-dca-calculator/bitcoin/

OhioTrainWreck305

I heard MT Gox is way over played, meanwhile Mr.100 bought 700 btc today, and we're flat. National goverments work for the banks as well.

Legitimate_Let5907

It was the hacking group out of Russia that was responsible. [MT Gox hackers](https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/06/09/where-the-mt-gox-money-went-new-details-in-the-btc-e-exchange-case/)