ZERO

sircryptotr0n

And now that there's no CFPB, they can get away with it, ZERO CONSEQUENCES. Thanks Trump!

McBurger

Yes, but also, it is probably an exaggeration. The guy mentions saving for retirement. Probably puts an aggressive amount away for savings, which is smart and good and advisable. What you’re leftover with after taxes and investments can sure feel like struggling with little discretionary spending left. And that’s the real distinction here. There’s all these surveys of like 75% of people that self-report living “paycheck to paycheck.” But true paycheck-to-paycheck life involves ZERO savings. Zero investment, zero saving, accruing debt, still struggling. What most people, like this guy, and myself, who earn a ton and still feel paycheck-to-paycheck… it’s because yeah you might be taking home 10k a month, but you’re investing $5k, putting $3k in equity toward your home mortgage, paying bills, and feel struggling because there’s little leftover. But it isn’t actually struggling.

Beaesse

Temper your regret. There is ZERO chance you would have held to $200 million. None. Even if you had decided to make the original play as a gamble, without fanatical conviction, you would have sold at LEAST portions of your original investment, say every time you hit 10x. You obviously didn't have that kind of conviction, or even a price target, so you can know you would have sold when it felt right. Regret is useless. Future you is wealthy AF now that you have the conviction to hold indefinitely.

JeopardyQBot

TRUMP ASKED IF HE’LL PLAY HARDBALL WITH CHINA, SAYS NO TRUMP: WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY GOOD TO CHINA TRUMP: TARIFF ON CHINA WON'T BE AS HIGH AS 145% TRUMP: CHINA TARIFF WILL COME DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY BUT WON'T BE ZERO TRUMP: NEVER HAD A PLAN TO FIRE FED CHAIR POWELL what is going on lmao

tianavitoli

no reddit is pretty loudly expressing OMG LIKE NO THE MARKET IS GOING TO ZERO ORANGE MAN IS BAD THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE SELL EVERYTHING MEOW THIS WILL NOT BE HAPPENING AND IT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING BECAUSE THE FUNDAMENTALS AND THE ORANGE MAN IS STUPID AND MEAN AND ORANGE AND STUPID AND BAD

biba8163

> metrics are facts.... facts that matter Your meme narratives and scam metrics to shill ETH to gullibles are NOT facts > Ethereum is king King of what? BTC is almost 10X the marketcap of ETH. Sure Ethereum is the King of creating Shitcoin Scams Tokens but nothing else > Over 25 of the top 100 cryptocurrencies by market cap are built on Ethereum. 25 Scam Tokens! Impressive. Ethereum used to have more before. In January 2018, 32 out of the top 100 coins were ERC-20 Meme Tech vaporware rugpulls were on Ethereum. There were over 500 Ethereum ICOs in 2017/18 that stole most of investors money. These tokens and projects mostly end up the same. Only thing it proves is that Ethereum is the King of Shitcoin Scams. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171228/ > Over 50% of all Total Value Locked is on Ethereum TVL is a scam metric based on scam tokens locked up to make gullible fools believe real capital is locked up instead of vaporware scam tokens. > 81% of all tokenized RWAs are on Ethereum 97% of RWA are just Stablecoins available across competing shitcoin networks including Solana, BSC, Tron, L2/Sidechains. Even if the whole world needed public blockchain tokens for transactions, the tokens would not go up in price. Competing networks that provide rails for any time of widely adopted tokenization will need to remain cheap in order to compete. Evidence here is, Stablecoin supply has gone up 120% > The world’s leading financial institutions have either launched or are developing on Ethereum, including BlackRock, Fidelity, Deutsche Bank, BNY Mellon, Visa, Sony, etc. Since March 2024, mETH Heads started shilling BlackRock BUIDL, Soneium, RWA memes and ETH is down -60% since then. It's mostly niche use cases, trials and pilots. Also, ETH Maxis said, Blackrock is only building on Ethereum. They've also started using multiple chains now including Aptos, Arbitrum, Avalanche, Optimism and Polygon. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bkm1u1/blackrock_unveils_crypto_fund_first_with_5/ > Nothing else is even close BTC has a 22% annual return over a ~7 year period. ETH returns ~1%, ETH is not even close. Hell, if you want to earn just as much as ETH at ZERO risk, then you can stake FIAT which guarantee ~5% returns which is 5X better than ETH.

tungfa

they gonna have ZERO volume , look at Eth compared to BTC and than consider Trumpcoin or xrp or some sh..coin etf

biba8163

> The imbecile mindset... to buy more eth I wholeheartedly agree with this take - ETH is an non-performing asset mid/long term. If dummies want to make LESS money taking MORE risk, than ETH is an excellent choice - If you want to earn more than ETH at ZERO risk, then you can stake FIAT which guarantee ~5% returns. **Since the 2017/18 ATHs, 7+ year time frame with relatively large marketcaps* (Stock Market doubles every 7 years, Rule of 72) | | Annual Return| |:-----------|:------------:| | BTC | 21.19% | QQQ | 16% | GOLD | 11.3% | SPY | 10.8% | ETH | 1.21%

magus-21

>lol okay so first of all you don’t need to be out here calling people dense and personally insulting strangers on the internet. Does it make you feel better about yourself? That you get a chance to share your feelings on why your strategy is better than everyone else’s and they’re dense if they disagree? Says a lot about you. Why do you feel the need to shit on others over the way they invest? I'll call you dense if you act dense. Period. It's not an insult, it's an observation. >I will acknowledge that yes; you are right. Risk management and average smoothing are two different things - however - they are related, and by dollar cost averaging you mitigate some risk. They are not related and you do not mitigate any risk by dollar cost averaging. You reject downside risk and accept upside risk. > If you think crypto is gambling, why are you even here? To tell people that crypto is gambling. > Yeah that’s fine. This is cope, nothing more. > Same thing with the S&P. You put $500 in at, just a number, let’s say 500.00. I buy $100 5 times weekly. Over the next 5 weeks, the S&P drops to 400. You’re down 20% and your cost basis is still way up at 500. None of this is relevant. This is about the fact that DCAing into Bitcoin is a suboptimal, fear-motivated strategy that makes investing into crypto completely pointless. > You’re just using this weird ass terminology of “lump sum investing”, which resembles more of timing the market Again: **stop being dense**. There is literally no "timing the market" happening with lump sum investing. With lump sum investing, you invest everything you can afford to invest as fast as you can invest. There is **ZERO** timing involved other than buying in. > End of the day, let people invest how they want. Am I blocking their ability to make stupid decisions? No, I'm just telling them their decisions are stupid. If they choose to ignore that out of spite, that's just doubling down on stupidity.

Rare_Recognition_388

ZERO ZERO ZERO concern for politicians or governments or corporations. BTC IS THE PEOPLE’s CURRENCY. We WILL be buying our coffee with BTC within the next generation. It WAS an investment….NOW it’s a livelihood. Anyone that owns .1 BTC will be a 1%er in the future financial market. Mark my words.

na3than

>A passphrase adds another 256bits. Not necessarily. A passphrase adds UP TO 256 additional bits. If your passphrase is a single character, it adds only 6-8 bits of entropy. A two-character passphrase adds only 12-16 bits of entropy. A three-character passphrase adds only 18-24 bits of entropy. To add 256 of entropy you'll need a passphrase consisting of ~36 RANDOM alphanumeric characters (I don't recommend this, since it's VERY hard to record something that complex with ZERO transcription errors), or select 16 RANDOM words from a 100,000 word dictionary, or select 24 RANDOM words from the BIP-39 word list.

Traditional_Bug1626

Yup! Like if btc does go to $41 mil that means there is insane inflation where a carton of eggs cost $6000 and wages are $20 mil. There is ZERO chance that with normal inflation of 2-3% we see anything even close to $41 million.

Inner-Lawfulness-759

[https://github.com/aido/WalletWatcher](https://github.com/aido/WalletWatcher) This is is an app that runs on your phone and receives notifications from your personal Bitcoin node,. The app requires running your own bitcoin node and a server side script monitoring balance changes, The advantage of this is that ZERO wallet data stored on your mobile device. The phone app never knows your balance, it just a client that receives notifications of balance changing events. On the server side your wallet is imported into the bitcoin node using xpub. So although your secure bitcoin node will know your balance it cannot move coins as it is "read-only". Lose your phone? No problem. Even if phone is hacked there is no wallet info on it.

michelem

Your thousands dollars miner bought today will be worth ZERO in few years. Just buy BTC. And if you still want to partecipate in the network just buy a small Home miner with full node and start a SOLO mining.

biba8163

Long term only BTC. ChainLink is a scam: All it does is centralized shitcoin price feeds for shitcoin casinos. Once in a while they'll do some pilot partnership memes and create lots of hype luring more gullible noobs. LINK for the past few years has been shilling some pilot where Swift messages can be sent to multiple blockchains and the transactions are acknowledged. These pilots that no financial institutions use and no institutions pay for LINK to justify a meme token d dump like LINK a $10 Billion marketcap - How many hundreds of millions of revenue does ChainLink collect from financial institutions?! ZERO - How many hundreds of millions of investment does ChainLink get from financial institutions?! ZERO - Where does ChainLink get all their money to do these useless pilot programs that are solutions looking for a problem?! BAGHOLDERS And Bagholders are acting like Swift is some huge multi-national trillion dollar marketcap company. Swift is a bank messaging platform run by a Cooperative of 3,000 employees. Chainlink is a typical crypto scam like many that partnered with traditional real world companies to shill their tokens for fictional vaporware use cases. The only source of revenue has been 300 Million tokens dumped on bagholders since 2020 and the price is down -30% in 5 years. Chainlink is vaporware meme tech by a scammer with a degree in philosophy, no technical background, no background in finance, hasn't held a real job his whole life and has no real world experience in anything. But this Scammer is building magical oracles that will have Data Containers containing a Unified Golden Record will know within seconds everything that's happening Off-Chain in the Real World!!! Listen to this scammer: > "what is the status of the real estate? Are there any tax liens? Is there any debt? Change of ownership? As the status of the real world asset changes, you should have a real world update to the on-chain token....You go from not a 1-month window of verifying an asset but to a few seconds window....The way to do that is to make a connection to what's going on in the real world and what's On-Chain by creating an Unified Golden Record"* https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1jlb8bb/chainlink_is_now_working_with_the_federal/mk2t3ac/

Useful_Hippo_7801

I’m expressing an opinion and gathering others’ opinions! There are no predictions, no forecast, and ZERO advice! Here’s the thing… with everything you’ve learned, in your lifetime, reading posts and otherwise.. you have probably only managed $7 in your bank account… how do I know you ask? A comment like yours, only comes from someone who’s never seen more than a $10 bill…

Ornery-Tax9469

Yep. ETH is going to ZERO.

mrestiaux

For the record, I’m Canadian, so none of that applies to me. That being said, I can imagine why you wouldn’t want some of that, absolutely. However, you have to look at how much money that is costing, and how abused a lot of those systems are. The leaches living off of all of the free assistance they are given need to be reduced. Absolutely, if you’re a good law abiding citizen and you’re trying and you have a true issue that you have ZERO control over, you need help, I never said that people like that should lose their assistance. However, when the countries citizens that are working hard to try to make a living and are drowning because they’re stuck endlessly trying to prop up the poor and “less fortunate”, maybe it’s time to pay attention to the ones struggling to get ahead. How much is it costing American to run these programs that are no doubt being taken advantage of by people that don’t really need them? You enjoy paying for failing systems that are supposed to help the poor and less fortunate? Think about the actual hard workers that’re struggling.

Fit_Statistician2640

To ZERO!!! 🫡

NoFollowingMe

You're a fool to invest in a company that relies on the narrative "Price go up". I'll stick with my fucking utility rather than banking on "Number go up." Soon people will realize that the first coin in existence is far from the most efficient and honestly with today's market, BTC drives like a fckn 1990 civic and XRP drives like a Bugatti. It's no Irony that everyone owns the civic. But when they realize you can buy a Bugatti for 1/1000th the cost of a civic. People will get in line for its speed and efficiency, because after all that's what crypto is designed to be. Why the fuck would we move forward with technology that is archaic. AKA BTC. Energy consuming proof of work bullshit that takes forever to send and receive. It's a fucking store of value, congrats you can store your value in any cryptocurrency and probably get better upwards volatility. Dickride Saylor all you want but the reality is even he knows he's invested in inferior technology with the hopes that "Price go up". Enjoy the realization that technology moves forward, not backwards and the people who are protecting BTC are heavily invested in it and the narrative will drive the price up. ZERO FUCKING UTILITY NEED I SAY THAT AGAIN?

JerryLeeDog

"ZERO" lol this guy is hilarious. Yet somewhat sad to see. Wish we could see his reaction to $100k

BraidRuner

Starting from Zero is never easy. Try eating a $700k Loss. Yes that's right. $700,000 USD. Starting over is hard but the very first thing is to come to terms with what you lost and then remove it from worry. You made it once and will again. Start early start often but start. ZERO IS ZERO. Move off Zero and keep stacking BITCOIN.

LosMorbidus

Needs to drop to ZERO

biba8163

> Without Defi you are relying on centralised exchanges exclusively. Your understanding of Finance is weak. Shitcoin trading is NOT finance. > I currently have access to a 2%-3% interest rate on AAVE thru my crypto investments. It is quite literally the lowest cost credit I have access to. Hell my mortgage is a massively collateralised position with a 6%-7% interest rate. Taking out loans using shitcoin tokens which typically drop -75% to -95% as collateral is finance. You cannot get a mortgage through the DeFI meme. You cannot get any real world financial products through bullshit DeFi memes. > But congratulations you are smarter than both SWIFT and DTCC who are actively backing oracles and a unified golden record thru Chainlink ChainLink is a scam: All it does is centralized shitcoin price feeds for shitcoin casinos. Once in a while they'll do some pilot partnership memes and create lots of hype luring more gullible noobs. LINK for the past few years has been shilling some pilot where Swift messages can be sent to multiple blockchains and the transactions are acknowledged. These pilots that no financial institutions use and no institutions pay for LINK to justify a meme token d dump like LINK a $10 Billion marketcap - How many hundreds of millions of revenue does ChainLink collect from financial institutions?! ZERO - How many hundreds of millions of investment does ChainLink get from financial institutions?! ZERO - Where does ChainLink get all their money to do these useless pilot programs that are solutions looking for a problem?! BAGHOLDERS And Bagholders are acting like Swift is some huge multi-national trillion dollar marketcap company. Swift is a bank messaging platform run by a Cooperative of 3,000 employees. Chainlink is a typical crypto scam like many that partnered with traditional real world companies to shill their tokens for fictional vaporware use cases. The only source of revenue has been 300 Million tokens dumped on bagholders since 2020 and the price is down -30% in 5 years.

Hidden5G

Bitcoin isn’t what it was in 2009. It’s no longer peer-to-peer cash or a revolutionary tool…it’s a speculative, slow, energy-draining, non-compliant asset that institutions use to play Wall Street games. It offers ZERO real-world utility, isn’t ISO 20022 compliant, and has been openly labeled a meme coin by Coinbase’s own CEO. Meanwhile, the financial system is evolving…toward real utility, interoperability, and tokenized value. Bitcoin’s not leading that change..it’s being left behind. btc is old fliphone tech when the world has already moved onto smartphones.

ALth0r

delusional ... many countries with ZERO tariffs on US are getting tariffed. the tariffs he implemented are just based on commercial trade balance. If u knew anything about macro economics u would realizer how dumb it is ... but ur regarded

RosieDear

You went wrong with "Trump said".... He said 30,000 things which are known lies. The number of true things he's said....when it comes to big picture...are about ZERO.

No-Cartoonist9256

Just the top .0001% pay 47% of all income taxes collected. Most Americans effective tax rate is ZERO with a big portion having a negative effective tax rate

PassiveRoadRage

On what? The US is fucked. Every day items will be destroyed I.E the US has ZERO domestic coffee. The only other large crude oil producer of oil outside of Canada is Venezuala. But... but... gdp!!!

cloud_sole

With all due to respect, if she doesn't give an honest opinion other than "It's going to ZERO! or my friends said so!" on why you should sell, then I'd advise respectfully don't listen to her.

biba8163

Vaporware meme tech by a scammer with a degree in philosophy, no technical background, no background in finance, hasn't held a real job his whole life and has no real world experience in anything. But this Scammer is building magical oracles that will have Data Containers containing an Unified Golden Record will know within seconds everything that's happening Off-Chain in the Real World!!! Listen to the scammer Sergey Nazarov : > "What is the status of the real estate? Are there any tax liens? Is there any debt? Change of ownership? As the status of the real world asset changes, you should have a real world update to the on-chain token....You go from not a 1-month window of verifying an asset but to a few seconds window....The way to do that is to make a connection to what's going on in the real world and what's On-Chain by creating an Unified Golden Record"* https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1jlb8bb/chainlink_is_now_working_with_the_federal/mk2t3ac/ Reminder that ChainLink is a scam: All it does is centralized shitcoin price feeds for shitcoin casinos. Once in a while they'll do some pilot partnership memes and create lots of hype luring more gullible noobs. LINK for the past few years has been shilling some pilot where Swift messages can be sent to multiple blockchains and the transactions are acknowledged. These pilots that no financial institutions use and no institutions pay for LINK to justify a meme token d dump like LINK a $10 Billion marketcap - How many hundreds of millions of revenue does ChainLink collect from financial institutions?! ZERO - How many hundreds of millions of investment does ChainLink get from financial institutions?! ZERO - Where does ChainLink get all their money to do these useless pilot programs that are solutions looking for a problem?! BAGHOLDERS And Bagholders are acting like Swift is some huge multi-national trillion dollar marketcap company. Swift is a bank messaging platform run by a Cooperative of 3,000 employees. Chainlink is a typical crypto scam like many that partnered with traditional real world companies to shill their tokens for fictional vaporware use cases. The only source of revenue has been 300 Million tokens dumped on bagholders since 2020 and the price is down -30% in 5 years.

biba8163

Yeah in your dreams. I've been saying this since November ETH has ZERO big buyers, billionaires, institiutional/corporate interest to move it to a trillion marketcap asset. Where is ETH going to attract that type of money? There is ZERO evidence of any big buyers for ETH. > To make parabolic moves, ETH needs buyers like Microstrategy, Institutional and TradFi investors...So where exactly is ETH going to attract the type of capital to move a ~$400 Billion marketcap asset? https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gvqpad/ethereum_falls_to_4year_low_against_bitcoin_as/ly4r5oq/ BTC has all this and is only $1.6 Trillion marketcap - Billionare after billionaire investing - Microstrategy has ~$40 Billion invested - ETFs have ~$100 Billion invested ETH ETFs only have like $7.5 Billion invested. ETH simply cannot attract the capital to move to $10K. The vast majority of money ETH attracted was being a parasitical leech on BTC. That era is ending. ETH only hits new ATHs after BTC hits tops/local tops and profits flow to Alts. - Summer 2017, ETH hits ATH of $400 after BTC hits local top of $3,000 - January 2018, ETH hits ATH of $1,400 after BTC hits cycle top of $20K - May 2021, ETH hits ATH after BTC tops out in April 2021 - Nov 2021. ETH hits ATH in December after BTC tops out in November 2021

biba8163

> Ethereum is dead, until it's not *ETH is not dead but like all 2-Cycle Shitcoins, it's shitting the bed* - There are ZERO Alts today that are above ATHs they reached in previous cycles. - There are ZERO Alts have reached new ATHs in 2024/25 when adjusted for inflation. - There are ZERO Alts have hit ATHs in 3 cycles when adjusted for inflation. *ETH is not dead but it's a 2-Cycle Shitcoin that will put you in the red* ETH is an underperforming/non-performing asset mid/long term. If dummies want to make LESS money taking MORE risk, than ETH is an excellent choice. If you want to earn just as much as ETH at ZERO risk, then you can stake FIAT which guarantee ~5% returns. **Since the 2017/18 ATHs, 7+ year time frame with relatively large marketcaps* (Stock Market doubles every 7 years, Rule of 72) | | Annual Return| |:-----------|:------------:| | BTC | 22.19% | QQQ | 16% | GOLD | 11.3% | SPY | 10.8% | ETH | 4%

Numerous_Ruin_4947

The reason the BTC price is so high is because of ZERO FUD. Almost Nobody on Youtube is talking about Bitcoin's terrible Economic Security. MSM and politicians don't talk about it. ETH is the only one that has seen major FUD. But that won't go on forever.

Time_Excitement_9810

Bitcoin is trash and you are all mentally ill. Bitcoin to ZERO.

biba8163

Some will go broke buying vaporware meme tech by a scammer with a degree in philosophy, no technical background, no background in finance, hasn't held a real job his whole life and has no real world experience in anything. But this Scammer is building magical oracles that will have Data Containers containing an Unified Golden Record will know within seconds everything that's happening Off-Chain in the Real World!!! Listen to this scammer: > "what is the status of the real estate? Are there any tax liens? Is there any debt? Change of ownership? As the status of the real world asset changes, you should have a real world update to the on-chain token....You go from not a 1-month window of verifying an asset but to a few seconds window....The way to do that is to make a connection to what's going on in the real world and what's On-Chain by creating an Unified Golden Record"* https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1jlb8bb/chainlink_is_now_working_with_the_federal/mk2t3ac/ Reminder that ChainLink is a scam: All it does is centralized shitcoin price feeds for shitcoin casinos. Once in a while they'll do some pilot partnership memes and create lots of hype luring more gullible noobs. LINK for the past few years has been shilling some pilot where Swift messages can be sent to multiple blockchains and the transactions are acknowledged. These pilots that no financial institutions use and no institutions pay for LINK to justify a meme token d dump like LINK a $10 Billion marketcap How many hundreds of millions of revenue does ChainLink collect from financial institutions?! ZERO How many hundreds of millions of investment does ChainLink get from financial institutions?! ZERO Where does ChainLink get all their money to do these useless pilot programs that are solutions looking for a problem?! BAGHOLDERS And Bagholders are acting like Swift is some huge multi-national trillion dollar marketcap company. Swift is a bank messaging platform run by a Cooperative of 3,000 employees. Chainlink is a typical crypto scam like many that partnered with traditional real world companies to shill their tokens for fictional vaporware use cases. The only source of revenue has been 300 Million tokens dumped on bagholders since 2020 and the price is down -30% in 5 years.

Kanye_West_Side

Depends how long you think “medium/long-term” is in bitcoin. For me, short-term is 4 years. In Bitcoin, ZERO% of investors holding for 4 years are negative.

biba8163

This is you regurgitating Shitcoin and mETH Head narratives: > Remember, late December, early Jan is when ETH and alts start climbing. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1hhfmsi/daily_crypto_discussion_december_19_2024_gmt0/m2rdoto/ > Not really, ETH has always been a slow grower. It’s typically dumped until late Jan every cycle and has been red for almost every single December from 2016. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1i00w01/daily_crypto_discussion_january_13_2025_gmt0/m6wgoac/ This is me warning noobs and mETH Heads, that's not what's happening: > Noobs who weren't around in 2016 and 2020, you should know that 2024 looks very very different so far than at this time frame in 2016 and 2020. (Nov. 5, 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gkfvzs/bitcoin_price_crushing_altcoins_heading_into_us/lvlrry1/ > The market is changing: ETFs, MSTR, etc account for a lot of the inflows. This money is not going to leave BTC seeking greater return on Alts (Nov. 13, 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/comments/1gq6ahm/daily_general_discussion_november_13_2024/lwymxl9/ > Each cycle is a bit different. Too many people are saying, just hold on to your coins, it's playing out exactly the same. (Nov. 13, 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gqexix/why_are_there_so_few_active_users_when_btc_is_at/lwxx36a/ > Be careful of people telling you this cycle is playing out exactly the same. ETFs, institutional and mainstream involvement, memecoins, L2 options and ETH competitors, it's very different (Nov. 19, 2024) https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1gujmk1/daily_crypto_discussion_november_19_2024_gmt0/lxyt5pw/ Are people like you are really clueless looking at the data right in front of your eyes and still think the pattern is repeating: | ETH | Dec | Jan | Feb | March |:-----------|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:|:------------:| | 2020/21 | 20%| 78% | 7% | 35% | 2024/25 | -10%| -1% | -32% | -14% And I've warned noobs like you again and again, ETH is a Shitcoin Alt and it is waay overvalued: > Long term ALL Alts follow the same trend and fall below the initial BTC value they started at. Pretty much all the older Alts, even the most successful fall below this value. ETH is also trending long term to fall below this value. People talk about historic trends, patterns and cycles but this has been the only 1 undisputed and unbroken pattern for 14 years. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1fgzm3z/daily_crypto_discussion_september_15_2024_gmt0/ln9gkl4/ | | Initial | High | Current | |:-----------|------------:|:------------:|------------:| | LTC | 0.03 BTC| 0.048 BTC | 0.001 BTC | XRP | 5,594 SATS| 22,500 SATS | 940 SATS | XMR | 0.005 BTC| 0.035 BTC | 0.0029 BTC | ETH | 0.01 BTC | 0.15 BTC | 0.041 BTC ETH is an underperforming/non-performing asset mid/long term. If dummies want to make LESS money taking MORE risk, than ETH is an excellent choice. If you want to earn just as much as ETH at ZERO risk, then you can stake FIAT which guarantee ~5% returns. **Since the 2017/18 ATHs, 7+ year time frame* (Stock Market doubles every 7 years, Rule of 72) | | Annual Return| |:-----------|:------------:| | BTC | 22.19% | QQQ | 16% | GOLD | 11.3% | SPY | 10.8% | ETH | 4%

AnoAnoSaPwet

He's an idiot. A rich idiot. But still dumb as shit.  BTC is going to be worth 10x more than gold, with none of the practicality, with ZERO fucking adoption?  Yeah idk man? 

Tasty-Apartment-8235

There is ZERO chance that Trump would tweet his coin with $ in front of it. I don't know who controls his social media platform, but the person 100% put his life savings at 50x leverage before he posted that shit. Can't blame his ass though.

StrangeInsight

No. Regardless of who's holding, there is still ZERO inflation. Which means as long as there is a supply, there is a means by which an individual can be protected from the theft that is supply manipulation. Meme coins and alts to BTC are all being played like a casino, and understandably so -- people are poor and desperate. But other projects in the space that serve utility are making headway, and can revolutionize our world, by decentralizing power away from the same conspiratorial entities named/suggested here. BTC, chief among. Nope, it's pretty tops.

Emotional_Radio_88

# Gary Stevenson: Bitcoin is GOING TO ZERO! #

Emotional_Radio_88

# Gary Stevenson: Bitcoin is GOING TO ZERO!

biba8163

Wow, a Booth at SIBOS!!! It must not be a scam! I am buying! A shitcoin token created shilling some pilot where Swift messages can be sent to multiple blockchains and the transactions are acknowledged. These pilots that nobody uses and no institutions pay for give ChainLink a $10 Billion marketcap?!! - How many hundreds of millions of revenue does ChainLink collect from financial institutions?! ZERO - How many hundreds of millions of investment does ChainLink get from financial institutions?! ZERO - Where does ChainLink get all their money to do these useless pilot programs that are solutions looking for a problem?! BAGHOLDERS And Bagholders are acting like Swift is some huge multi-national trillion dollar marketcap company. Swift is a bank messaging platform run by a Cooperative of 3,000 employees. And remember crypto scams have repeatedly partnered with traditional real world companies to shill their tokens for fictional vaporware use cases: - Vechain partnered with DNV GL and PWC and gullible baghodlers are down -92% over 7 years - IOTA partnered with Bosch and gullible baghodlers are down -92% over 7 years Yes, ChainLink is a scam.

RefrigeratorLow1259

ADA, just getting listed on Coinbase Derivatives for Futures Trading! The most decentralised, scalable and secure ALT - ZERO downtime !

HODL_monk

I'm not sure how this coin 'hedges freedom', in fact, I'm not sure what it does (as a crypto) at all, besides being a non-IPO IPO that lets a corporation dump its free pile of coin on retail, but gives 0 rights to the 'shareholders'. I suppose if I owned it, it might make sense to wait for a pump to dump it, but I DON'T see the rationale for buying it in the first place, unless you got an airdrop or something. It just has ZERO actual use case, and despite all the lying press releases, literally no one actually uses it for anything, besides fund raising, or pretending to test it for some future use that never happens.

biba8163

> On what basis do you use the term 'shitcoin' then? The Correlation Coefficient between BTC and ETH 0.96. ETH movement and price appreciation is 100% dependent on BTC. There is no such tight correlation in any stock with a decent marketcap. Assets that have value in and of themselves don't have this level of correlation -- meaning **ETH has no fundamental value of its own besides the money and BTC brings to it.** Shitcoins like have a parasitical dependency on BTC and completely rely on BTC for price appreciation. TH like all Alts have shown zero ability to attract capital on their own and they only appreciate and get capital after money flows into BTC and flows out seeking more profit. Notice how ETH only hits new ATHs after BTC hits tops/local tops and profits flow to Alts. - Summer 2017, ETH hits ATH of $400 after BTC hits local top of $3,000 - January 2018, ETH hits ATH of $1,400 after BTC hits cycle top of $20K - May 2021, ETH hits ATH after BTC tops out in April 2021 - Nov 2021. ETH hits ATH in December after BTC tops out in November 2021 AND this cycle, ETH like the shitcoin it is didn't make a new ATH. Why? The best Alts can do is to aspire to be a 2-Cycle Shitcoin: - There are ZERO Alts today that are above ATHs they reached in previous cycles. ZERO - There are ZERO Alts have reached new ATHs in 2024/25 when adjusted for inflation. ZERO - There are ZERO Alts have hit ATHs in 3 cycles when adjusted for inflation. ZERO > Need I say smart contacts, stablecoins and energy efficiency? Oh and lower inflation - TRON has like 30% of the Stablecoin supply - TRON is energy efficient - TRON has MUCH lower inflation than ETH. TRON is completely deflationary! - TRON collecteed $2.15 Billion in fees last year and ETH collected $2.48. TRON is $20 Billion marketcap to ETH's $220 Billion marketcap - TRON gives much higher rewards with staking and renting energy than ETH does with staking Why are you not 100% invested in TRON if you like stablecoins, energy efficiency, low inflation and staking rewards? I can tell you why. TRON is a still a shitcoin. You are just blinded and don't realize ETH is also a shitcoin.

Xallama

This community is stupider than a bag of dirt. Fucking Bitcoin will go to ZERO I shit you not, just browse 10 mins in this community and you’ll know why

biba8163

2-Cycle Shitcoin, does not make ATH in 3rd Cycle. And you are surprised? - There are ZERO Alts today that are above ATHs they reached in previous cycles. - There are ZERO Alts have reached new ATHs in 2024/25 when adjusted for inflation. - There are ZERO Alts have hit ATHs in 3 cycles when adjusted for inflation.

BestWriterGoated

Burned liquidity and ZERO team sales for over 2 months? $RAWW’s team is proving they’re here for the long haul.

CasualRedditObserver

I can personally guarantee that it can never go to ZERO. If I can buy all 21,000,000 BTC for $100 total, I'll do it just for the novelty of owning all of them (or at least as many as I can acquire at that price). Therefore, it's impossible for the price to fall below that. I strongly suspect there are people in a better financial position than me that would be willing to do the same at a price higher than that, so I don't really believe I'll ever have the opportunity to make that purchase.

CommonTicket6787

If you bought at 100k+ and didn't know this was a possibility you did ZERO research or your paper handed... I bought at 95k and was like, I hope it goes to 30k I'll triple down...who would think someone would drop 100k into something and pray it goes down..lol It was either get in the game at 100k or risk getting in at 150k

classless_classic

Neither you nor Trump gets to decide other countries tariffs. He can throw a tantrum that will isolate us from the rest of the world and we have an economy like North Korea, but other counties will move on without us and establish other trading partners. You can whine about equality, but it goes both ways. The US is very privileged to have the world’s reserve currency. This allows us to have influence and power based on that alone. The world is much more likely to buy our debt and respond to soft power. If you escalate a tariff /trade war to make things “equal” it will only hurt the US. It will devastate us economically if we piss off enough counties and they replace the world reserve currency. The trade deficit benefits the US with less expensive goods/oil. Cost of living will go up exponentially if we fuck with this. Our economy is 70% consumer spending. If we have a significant rise prices (tariffs of 25-75%) that consumer spending will crater. The other 30% of the economy is a LOT of exports. With a trade war, our exports will drop to near ZERO. Our economy will crater. The stock market knows this and is responding appropriately. This is not a temporary drop. This is just the beginning.

ComplexWrangler1346

What the hell is he doing ???? the entire world has ZERO trust in Trump….he has alienated all his allies including both his neighbors Canada and Mexico ….Canada is about to double tariffs on us and cut off electricity……America is ONLY a superpower when we have our allies , not when we have enemies…..he literally destroyed the market in 6 weeks

ayty1980

I love how you offer ZERO counter arguments of any kind and go straight to the race card thinking it'll matter or anyone will care. You people are soooo predictable. Next up comes blocking or reporting me for hurting your feelings. I'll ask again even though you won't/can't answer: *"Why can you people not understand the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants?"*

c05d

MAX FUCKING PAIN, let's go cunts. Bring it down to 50k, I'll be here mfs. I was ready to ride this shit to ZERO at 16k and I'm ready now bitches

biba8163

- There are ZERO Alts today that are above ATHs they reached in previous cycles. - There are ZERO Alts have reached new ATHs in 2024/25 when adjusted for inflation. - There are ZERO Alts have hit ATHs in 3 cycles when adjusted for inflation.

Sin-City-Sinner

Wrong! I need REAL friends. It’s been like this for a long time, people know I’m blessed with being able to make money easily, it’s not something you can teach though. If I had learned to manage my money decades earlier I wouldn’t need to invest in anything, at one point I made an obscene amount per year, but I live in Vegas and gambles it and nightclub-ed it away smh! But yea you’re right! I only have a few real friends and I can’t really fault them, I was always very generous, but now I have a 4&6yo and I have ZERO help with $, I don’t even have a babysitter ! So yea, they can ask, but rarely do I give now, last time I did it kept someone and his 8yo kid from being homeless, $500. “I don’t like the way you talk to my gf, so I’m not giving you $hit!” Is what I was told. Last time I do that, I fact I won’t lend, I rather just gift. The stress when they don’t pay, that frustration is so bad that it’s worth the $ to just gift it rather than hear the lame excuses!

ourodial

It has absolutely ZERO value because the whole supply is being controlled by a "private institution" without any sort of transparency, plus that private institution never even gets an audit. Either humanity comes up with a better form of decentralized money or the consequences of fiat system will be certainly catastrophic and irreversible.

CampaignWaste9783

Bitcoin was 79k a week ago… these newbies have ZERO perspective…

Master-Piccolo-4588

Again: The government will buy exactly ZERO crypto. Not now, not ever.

Lagna85

I was in 3 bear market. Each bottom, all the posts in the subreddit were filled with despair. There was ZERO hope

valerioshi

I've been speaking to folks like you for more than a decade. Study the Lindy effect or stay poor. Having ZERO exposure to Bitcoin under conditions of uncertainty about where to hedge your bets is just plain moronic. To this day, Bitcoin remains the most secure and decentralized chain. And it's had many updates and protocols introduced. You talk like Bitcoin's been the same since Day 1. It hasn't, and you're showing your ignorance. It remains the most decentralized and secure chain, and its activity and user base is growing.

rksp2

Ukraine goverment has ZERO bitcoins. It's all in private hands by some guys with questionable reputation.

thinkingperson

For the umpteenth time, Black Rock owns 0% ZERO PERCENT of bitcoin supply. They only provide a platform for people or organisations to buy their BTC ETF, IBIT. They make money from the fees on it. Saylor himself owns btc with his monies and indirectly own btc through company shares. Strategy, the company bought btc with company funds. It also buys btc with bonds and other instruments issued. So the holders of Strategy bonds and shares indirectly owns the btc.

Express-Cartoonist39

People are so ignorant, Trump exe order means ZERO crypto will be bought. So its NOT happening, the crypto reserve means nothing. You idiots need to opem your bias eyes and see Trump shafted us. Coinbase ceo and czar bith said.. No crypto will be added period and it will taken 3 years for this to play out. Thats 100% delay...

rendawg87

He gets ZERO credit for any of this. He only plays the part of a useful idiot in this scenario.

biba8163

Yeah, just bullshit pilot/test/novelty trials. Just like every other scam like XRP, VET, etc. Can you me one billionaire, institution or corporation buying a signicant amount like $1 Billion worth of LINK, ETH, etc? If it was such a great compelling investment, you would have someone buying billions. There are ZERO big buyers but bullshit pilot test cases and hype articles.

hitrabbit

POS meanings nothing, it will go back ZERO soon.

Lemon_Club

Lmao you're the one being presented with facts and rejecting reality, I'm just chilling. Ripple lies so much that the SEC was able to prove ZERO fraud in court/s

ryencool

Do REALLY think this is how taxes work? I'm legit curious, because you're 100% wrong, couldn't be more wrong, so just curious where you learned it. We pay taxes on GAINS. If you sent me 100k in meme coins, I would OWE ZERO DOLLARS in taxes until I sold the crypto for actual fiat cash money. Once that money hit your bank account, it's income, and ypu owe taxes on it. I could keep that 100k in meme coins, and even if it hit a million dollars, I would owe zero taxes until I sold it, and that profit was locked in. If you gave me 100k in a meme coins, and next week it's worth zero dollars, you owe zero taxes my man. Please educate yourself.

angelpkofc

All gonna be ZERO

Red_Pill_Blues1

What you're learning right now is simply this...markets are manipulated and insider trading happens all the time. When I read those 3 were going to be included it made ZERO sense in my gut. He said it to make certain people rich. Don't get caught in the cross fire. I don't believe all alts will trend to zero but anything other than BTC is a gamble. Other than that you have to have real conviction for a project and expect to ride out the highs and lows. I'm invested in a particular project that is very well known in the space and is a top 50 cryptocurrency. I have convictions on what they are doing for supply chains and sustainability. I look for projects already in use with real world companies and they are. Suggest you go as deep as possible, find a conviction and place your bets.

ColdGuess

I've been in crypto since 2015. Been through all the ups and downs. This whole space now disgusts me to my very core. You can bet Trump secretly admires SBF. I'd say SBF will be out by the end of Trump's term. And all the braindead crypto morons will gobble it all up, just like they did with Trump! Send it all to ZERO.

na3than

>At least fiat doesn't cross spiral squiggles. Of course it does. Plot the value of any fiat currency against any other currency, or any commodity, or any equity, and the line crosses all the time. The overall trend of such a ratio, plotted over time as as this visualisation is, would spiral to ZERO.

Difficult-Mobile902

> Trumps announcement while retail investors are short on cash before payday is ZERO COINCIDENCE  lol what are you smoking OP? I was paid on Friday and I imagine a huge % of other Americans were as well, this makes no sense 

NatiAti513

Dude announces this 1 day before most people get paid. There is ZERO chance that wasn't on purpose. Dude legit hates normal people and loves his corporate buddies.

Green_L3af

You can get 3-4% in a savings account right now with ZERO risk. Now that's sensible

LongbottomLeafblower

*4 hours later OH FUCK ITS CRASHING TO ZERO SELL SELL SELL!

CANAVAN_the_REALTOR

Man you people REALLY suck.... I cant get answer on a forum who can I ask? Satoshi himself? theres not exactly a 1-800 number which is ANOTHER REASON BITCOIN WONT EVER REPLACE FIAT. ZERO accountability or buffer zone to negotiate. My transaction shouldnt be 4KB and there ought to be a person who oversees this whom we can speak with to low fees, or get refunds on "overpaid" fees.

r4nd0miz3d

It costs ZERO to transfer fiat by app where I live though.

riscten

It's going to ZERO!!

JerryLeeDog

I have an awesome strategy too, and it requires ZERO effort or time About 7 years ago I started buying Bitcoin Thats it. I don't have to do anything else $5k seems like a rounding error when you are long Bitcoin.

tcarter49

Love it. BTC will go to ZERO

OMGArianaGrande

You’re incorrect in the way you think. Yes if BTC goes up you’ll make FIAT, you literally own ZERO actual BTC in this trade.

e07f

NO! A million times no. I was ready to ride this shit to ZERO at 16k and I'm ready to ride it to zero at 85k. I was buying at 108k, 100k, 95k and 90k. I'm buying today. I'll be buying at 1 million. Bring it on!

AnyPortInAHurricane

shocking selloff as the only true money reverts to its true value ZERO

AFriend827

How much money do you think whales make? You people are so lost, I just love it 😂 Crypto pumped because of his policy positions. We are still up by 100-500% across cryptocurrencies. We are in a natural consolidation. There is absolutely ZERO factors to attribute the rally to other than Trump. ZERO 

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