ZERO

Kontrav3rsi

When I can retire off crypto I’m going to go work at a movie theater or some other job that I have ZERO responsibilities and work part time. I’m out of work now so I’d really like it to hit soon hahah

abking84

Bankruptcy fraud has a five year statute of limitations, but tax fraud has ZERO statute of limitations - whether criminal or civil. Depending on the amount of tax, either guys with guns show up, or you get a 75% fraud penalty that can never be discharged in bankruptcy. Source: I'm a former IRS Revenue Agent and Fraud Technical Advisor.)

Icy-Cellist-1593

ZERO

Amber_Sam

>Tell me…who is the “centralized” entity holding the collateral **Conbase holds the real bitcoin BTC** - they are central authority and can decide in the future to **NEVER GIVE THE BITCOIN BACK TO YOU.** Read the last sentence again, please. #Conbase is holding all the BTC and might, might not, give it back to you. **There's ZERO BTC on the Morpho protocol.** Only a shitcoin, created by a central authority. Conbase issues and sends a wrapped shitcoin - cbBTC to this morpho protocol running smart contracts. Now go ahead and download my comment because you feel insecure, lol.

Chicken-Shrimpies

Dilution of shares is normal practise though when a company is expanding and has conviction right? Seems kind of subjective matter really, only a bad thing if allocation of money is spent poorly. So it’s either you believe in bitcoin continuing to rise and it’s a good thing or you think bitcoin is made of hot air and yes everyone got swindled. EPS has increased and also as mentioned above (or below 🤷‍♂️) money has been set aside for 23months of payments to shareholders both preferred and common. I have ZERO skin in this game so it really doesn’t affect me but seems to be a hot topic at the moment. I take it you lean more that this is a capital raising circle jerk and will plummet when the balloon pops and everyone’s hanging out at the back of a Wendy’s?

beachandbyte

A poorly leveraged BTC ETF is all I really see. It trading above NAV is an anomaly. Not that it can't continue to trade above NAV but usually you would find things trading above NAV where the actual strategy had some level of difficulty in implementation or just getting the equity or assets as a retail trader is difficult or impossible. If the market decides not to pay a premium at some point (which is the reasonable position), it's only real value is whatever BTC it has. Your basically paying a premium per $ of BTC, and for your generosity get a TON of counter party risk. I don't understand the bet at all, as what advantage does he have by being a "bigger player", if anything he is now more vulnerable, and can't move or protect positions with any real level of agility. Any move he takes to protect his position will likely further hurt his position, as it makes the news etc. As a small player you can take on actual leverage, exit and enter positions with ease with no effect on the market. If bitcoin makes some massive move in overnight, you can just stop our or exit a position. It would take bitcoin going to ZERO for you to lose all your money. Basically I can't think of ANY reason someone would choose to buy some MSTR vs just buying some bitcoin.

seambizzle1

Microstrategy had no intention to sell Where are you getting this from? And it’s not Saylors choice as to weather or not his company sells. It’s a publicly traded company, that would take a vote. But again, they have ZERO intention on selling. If you listen to Saylor speak you would know this. We are at a pint now where banks will give u loans against bitcoin. If microstrategy needs cash, they can create more company shares and sell them for cash. They will never sell their bitcoin

Elean0rZ

No doubt BTC is risky and speculative, and its price is substantially inflated by that. I'm certainly not going to argue it's definitely a good investment. At the same time it's odd to say it has ZERO utility and ZERO intrinsic value. Or perhaps that misses the point, because it puts the focus on intrinsic value as if that's the threshold for being valuable at all. What is intrinsic value? Does gold have intrinsic value? Does fiat currency? The value of any financial entity ultimately lies in the degree to which we're confident it will do what it says it will. For real-world economies and currencies, that relates to the underlying regulatory/political/military structures that back and secure them. Remove those, and the pieces of paper are worth essentially nothing. For gold it relates first to its shininess, later and more significantly to its scarcity, and much more recently to certain practical use-cases in tech, dentistry, etc. Discover the motherlode, mine an asteroid, or develop a superior material for tech applications, and gold's value will plummet. In BTC's case, it's the most reliable *decentralized* means we currently have to *securely* and *trustlessly* send *provably scarce* units of digital value around the planet from user to user, and that's thanks to the very real network infrastructure that secures its ledger. To put it another way, we can be highly confident--relatively more confident than with other similar decentralized trustless networks--that when we send units of digital value around on the BTC network, they will go where they were directed and be there when we come back for them later. Whether that's worth $100K/BTC is very much open to debate, but it's not worth nothing. It's used and provides non-zero utility, and therefore non-zero value, to its users every day. BTC is backed by something real--its physical network and its ledger--and it provides something real--its reliable, actually-used function as a means of moving digital value around. In that sense you can argue it has intrinsic value as much as you can argue the same for e.g. fiat. But more generally, intrinsic value simply isn't the only kind of value that's, well, valuable. BTC doesn't need other features to be useful. You don't need to be able to eat it or make jewelry with it. It's a digital asset, reliably proving digital scarcity, and securely moving units of digital value across borders. That's it, and you can argue it isn't "enough", but it's definitely something.

jordygrant1

incorrect. If it hits 60K they have ZERO, becuase liquidation they arent beeting 30MIL, theyre betting the entire 90MIL if BTC goes to 60K.

StillPugginAround

“Glum”, please re-post this in a year when Bitcoin is hovering around $10k. You’ve been warned…. Bitcoin has ZERO intrinsic value. And since your post was a word salad of partial financial terms, please look up the definition of “intrinsic value”. 👌

JamestotheJam

My point is, if something was all THAT great, it wouldn't take MORE THAN A DECADE to notice! And ZERO banks have adopted XRP to date. ZERO. Let that settle in.

Immediate-Cow-6183

Because bitcoin is inherently worthless it will in the next 3 to 5 years crash to ZERO. Get out while you can my brothers!!

rocket_beer

Nope Fiat was used here. They hold zero custody of any btc. ZERO Learn about what an ETF bro

rocket_beer

Nope Fiat was used here. They hold zero custody of any btc. **ZERO** Learn about what an ETF bro

grndslm

I'm surprised how few people here actually understand how fiat currency works. Literally ZERO depositor money is used to provide loans.  Every signature loan from a bank generates FRESH DEBT and the Federal Reserve and FRESH CREDIT to expand the supply.  Debt == Growth.  But it's all built on a lie that they had it to offer I in the first place.  The real trick is that we're all playing musical debt notes, because this system won't last forever.

grndslm

I'm surprised I had to read this far down to find this comment. Almost everybody has NO CLUE how fiat currency works.  Literally ZERO depositor money is used to provide loans.

CartoonistCandid6322

a friend said it will go to ZERO ! 🎉

Strange_Agent489

Getting off the ZERO is a big thing. All the best 👍

JoseVrewar

It'll go to "FU#KING ZERO!" -Dan Peña.

FollowAstacio

Here you go you little whiner. I don’t owe you this especially after you did ZERO research of your own and then acted entitled to it from someone else. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1067983/000095012324011775/xslForm13F_X02/36917.xml Now go back to your mother’s basement and get back to your incel activities as usual

Notrustjustverify

1. “No one to buy” is wrong because when these big wallets sell price witnesses a massive drawdown and this is where smart money accumulates (institutions).  2. Liquidity is not less. If that was the case it would be impossible for you to sell your BTC at $15,000 which many people did during the previous cycle bottom thinking BTC would plunge to 3k. 3. Not scary when investing in the market? Some of the biggest names in their respective industries like Kodak, Lehman Brothers went to ZERO in a single day to never come back again. What is to that another huge company considered “healthy and safe to invest in” cannot fall? 4. He didn’t ask this but a good mention from your end: every company profits you see on stocks is in dollars, if dollar is to plunge (which it is, and will even harder once the countries fully move away from it like Russia, China, India and some South American countries are) the profit will just be a digit on the screen. BTC? If you’re ever selling you’ll redeem it for any currency you want, and you will be smart enough to redeem it for the strongest one in that time.  Wishing you a good day/evening. Happy stacking. 

JackedUpNGood2Go

Lol you bitcoin fuckbois are hilarious. My 401k is up 60% in 2 years. My stocks bonds and even funds CHOSEN FOR ME BY FIDELITY are up. Year over year. Without fail. My dollar has been steady. Why are you buying fake bullshit with ZERO VALUE again? Oh right so you can gamble on stake lollllllsjrbeixjsnrjfjsiejdj

Cautious-Lecture-858

Are you serious? Have you seen the market the last few days? There’s absolutely ZERO liquidity. The whale is panic selling because something’s obviously coming.

Arijan101

I think that literally any exchange can freeze all your assets and cancel your account any time for my reason. So there's literally 0 ZERO sense in switching to stablecoins which also come with a variety of other risks, including but not limited to: de-leting from the $, partial or total collapse. You think cold storage is safer? Think again. Wallets are constantly depleted via phishing schemes, hacks, honey bating, malware....not to mention your address is public and visible to the authorities and can be frozen at their request. Hard wallets also come with plenty of risks. So yeah...all in all not a great idea.

Benzo_Head

During this bullrun there was ZERO euphoria because so many retail investors got crushed in 2021 and decided to leave the market forever. Doesn’t help the fact that 99% of altcoins are a game of hot potato and they have zero use cases in the real world

biba8163

2015-2017 buys = townhouse - 2018-2019 buys = house - 2020 buys at 790% - 2023 buys at 280% ZERO leverage!

iMAM_MAHDi_313

Sell before it reaches ZERO [https://x.com/pi_om_2025/status/1990701450691842186?s=46](https://x.com/pi_om_2025/status/1990701450691842186?s=46)

luso_warrior

Bitcoin are going to ZERO

Alberto1931

All fiat is going to ZERO! Keep that in mind. The world is digital. Is there a Coin that is digital, decentralized, open, secure, bounded by energy, completely scarce that is a protocol? 🧐 . Got it, BITCOIN 😎

Particular_Gap_6724

Think about how you would be if you were a whale.. If you were gonna buy you'd say you're selling everything.. If you were gonna sell, you'd say you were buying everything.. This isn't new, We've had stocks and shares advisors in trouble before for going on tv and saying that something is headed to ZERO while their company is buying the shit out of that dip.

stoneman9284

Yep looking at Coin Glass and ZERO of their 30 peak indicators are flashing

Escapement_Watch

4 year cycle has never existed. It just coincides with the business cycle. Do you believe crypto is run on a time limit....or runs on liquidity and money flow? what makes more sense? With QT starting, rates dropping and money printing 2026 should be a green year. Also, crypto's doesn't 'accidently' go to ZERO TWICE and magically recovers... it happens because someone is buying all the supply and tell you that it is dogshit.

freakythrowaway79

Same here but with RIVER & ZERO transaction fees, weekly buys. I've to set-up my dip buys soon too. I'm still playing with savings portion and getting 3.5% apt & free sats. So far so good no major red flags.

AltrntivInDoomWorld

> I see ZERO significant news to indicate a link to the drop United States Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has formally announced the launch of a US military operation to target so-called “narco-terrorists” as Washington’s large-scale build-up of troops, warships and fighter jets continues in Latin America. “Today, I’m announcing Operation SOUTHERN SPEAR. Led by Joint Task Force Southern Spear and @SOUTHCOM, this mission defends our Homeland, removes narco-terrorists from our Hemisphere, and secures our Homeland from the drugs that are killing our people,” Hegseth said in a post on X.

saltytrader_

It’s broader. Stocks dumping too. I see ZERO significant news to indicate a link to the drop. Other than artificial manipulation to scare retail out for discounts. I just think there’s a reason. It might be because it’s clearly going to rocket very soon and they want to force a discount

Total_Special_77

Going to Zero….ZERO.

ah-hum

I do, that's why I don't bet my savings on Twitter advice. I read the charts, research second, third and fourth opinions, learn about the state of economy, crypto, technology, try and understand the macro outlook of society at large over the course of the next decade and century. And when I look at all that after having made and lost money in past cycles, leveraged and spot, via blockchain or etf, I can say a few things that help me: 1 - I'm always prepared for everything to tank and my life go on the same until the market returns. I do not depend on any of my investment money, nor do i put the money I depend on into crypto. 2 - there are no sacred cows, no dogmas. Even though everyone says HODL, that doesn't mean you shouldn't take some profits every 20% jump (adjust accordingly for yourself) to have some dry powder to buy up market dips below your average, but you dont have to, and if you're fidgety with trading, id lock away some amount beyond easy reach, like a cold wallet in a safe, which you can easily send new crypto purchases to, but think twice before trading. Hodling outperforms bad trading. However, in my case I recently discovered I enjoy taking btc and eth profits at peaks with -10% buybacks. If it pulls back, I extracted some profits while keeping the same amount of asset or I gained more of the asset for no extra cost. If it doesn't pull back (yet) then I say thanks for my gains and don't cry over lost potential, as it was an insurance policy when I didn't know which direction the market would go in. Anyway, you may need some extra cash and may want to increase your uninvested safety net. 3 - there are a lot of expensive errors and unknowns, but you can only learn from them if you allow them to be lessons, not flaws, and you persistently train yourself and hone your approach. Be careful and diligent, use orders, read charts and support/resistance lines, utilize stop losses when taking big risks or when you're confident of a market turnaround once a partivular floor is broken. 4 - keep records. Date, amount, fee (total cost with fees = cost basis) and coin pair(s) involved. Be prepared to estimate your taxes owed before reinvesting any gains so that you can pay the estimated tax debt immediately and avoid late fees, but also file a tax extension so you're less likely to be audited and hire an accountant to file for you. If you want to avoid this, never trade, just buy and hold. You wont have to worry about anything until you make a sale or a swap 5 - utilize every tax deduction possible and make ZERO mistakes. One big, easy way to reduce your tax bill while making smart financial decisions is to contribute to a Traditional IRA an equal amount to what you earned in capital gains. This will counteract it, but only up to $7000/year. Other deductions can come from selling any crypto at a loss and immediately buying back in. This will not work with stocks, but those losses do count against your gains in crypto, at least pushing the tax burden down the road until you sell again. 6 - as you earn gains, hold onto them until the market is in extreme fear, and then DCA in with large-ish amounts while things are cheap. Then set some sell orders for those at medium and extreme high expectations, as well as small amounts every +20% (maybe only selling 5-10% of your bag each step of the way if you're bullish). 7 - lastly, keep your peace of mind. Know your risks, improve your skill, stay calm, enjoy some profits if you could use it in life. Have fun.

AU-n-Time

People are so broke they aren't putting that $2k in BTC. What a stupid idea that is!! Fix f'ing healthcare premiums and cost, that would really free up some money for millions of Americans and have a massive positive trickle down affect. Millions of Americans will have their healthcare premiums literally skyrocket!! A $2k check is a complete joke, do they think people are that stupid? Rural hospitals are already closing and that will only escalate. Think of the negative domino affect that has on the rural communities these medical centers serve. Millions will not be able to afford their health insurance premiums and be forced to drop coverage. Medicaid recipients will start to lose coverage in the millions as well. It's a giant cluster F--K!!! This mess has been 100% orchestrated by folks that look only to their own agenda and that is to keep their political job. They vote against the constituents that got them in office in the first place, America LAST is what is going on. This is going to change, Americans that supported the dictator are starting to see the forest through the trees. Even some of the R's that have had their lips stitched to the ass of the dictator can't ignore some of the outrageous things that are happening. The only thing that will stop this is when the dictator no longer has the power to prevent their re-election. The real tragedy is that these horrible politicians 100% know the dictator is an insane, unbalanced, lunatic yet they still smoke the root of the "king". They are nut-less, spineless, jellyfish of people, Plecostomus fish feeding on the scum building up on the glass of the aquarium. Those fish serve a better value than the politician scumbags smoking the kings joint! If you haven't already figured out that this administration has ZERO interest in helping America you soon will. This administration doesn't give a rats ass about Americans, it an AMERICA LAST, SUPPORT THE RICH movement, full stop!

PreviousAvocado9967

2 thing are clear to me. Trump has no idea how health insurance plans work nor how critical the premium tax credits are in the 2 largest red states (50% of all Obamacare members) Trump has absolutely ZERO understanding who is paying the tairffs and the downstream effect on aggregate demand. Nor does he understand that trade wars trigger de-dolarization, reduce Japan and Chinas share of U.S. bonds held (the two countries cover 100% of the annual budget deficit), that trade with China is done in dollars both in and outgoing which allows to manipulate our currency to lower their prices and raise our exports, and that we flip their billions imports for trillions in taxable revenue

Prgla

I don't know why people wait for someone to tell them buy BTC or sell your BTC!!!! If you are doing moves on BTC because of what others are saying, then don't get into it in the first place... I have 5 yes 5 BTC since 2015 and I was told roughly about 3467 times it's time to sell before it goes to ZERO!!!! Guess what not even a single Satoshi was sold or moved from my cold wallet, coz I know what I want and when I want it. And yes now that you know I have 5 BITCOINs fuck you scammers I don't fall for any email or DM. My point is ignore what institutions or people like Cramer say and do your research. Thank you for your attention.

Budget_Eye5861

FYI: a new all-time low = ZERO

Sea_Implement4018

I have had my taxes prepared since goofing around with crypto. Professional tax preparer adds up all profits, then subtracts all losses. One line per whatever mechanism was used to make the transactions. For example, compute total gain or losses trading on LOLCOINZ trading platform and that result is one line. Do the same for HobinRood, Donkey Trades, etc, and all platforms. Yes, it costs me about 100 bucks per trading venue, but ZERO issues with I.R.S. or any other government entities since 2017. I am not a tax preparer. However, I have a great relationship with the person who is and walk through this with her every year because it makes life easier for both of us. 2021 was especially nuts with 100s of trades. I.R.S. just wants to know where, how much total, and profit or loss totals.

ilfollevolo

I chickened out of buying 100 BTC at $6 because the website looked so sketchy. Even if I bought there would have been ZERO chances of my holding it, I would have sold at $60

Beaesse

If you stacked "phat" sats since 2013, you'd be proper rich have ZERO difficulty getting anything you wanted. Rich people don't need jobs and therefore often don't have jobs. There is nothing to explain if you simply drop the cash.

Disastrous_Week3046

Newsflash. All of Crypto has ZERO fundamentals

J-96788-EU

ZERO

Plus_Confidence3701

Y’all are all going to be bankrupt..BTC IS GOING TO ZERO..RUN FOR YOUR LIFE

e07f

what if we start spiraling down? TO FUCKING ZERO???

Agreeable-Cat8077

I see ZERO reason to be invested in it if you arent willing to sell and take advantage of the dips. Just trading 1-2% dips on 25k is more than most people make in a year

biba8163

> Almost every indicator I look for a healthy project is present with Vechain. Every indicator in a Scam is present with Vechain. (Copy pasta below of my post from March 2020 https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/fn9zx2/comment/fl8q5it/) Vechain was launched in Nov 2016, basically a failed startup with zero customers and zero revenue. With 2017 came the Bitcoin crypto boom, lots of hype, lots of ICOs raking in money. Vechain decided to do an ICO and also grab dumb investor money with lots of hype as an enterprise supply chain project. https://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitse-launches-blockchain-based-vechain-platform-teams-up-with-pwc-cm715284 Leading the Vechain hype train is its CEO Sunny Lu claiming he was buying as much Vechain as he could for over $4.00 > "I am buying as much I can from open market personally (at $4.00+). Honestly, it's quite private and I did not want to share this before." - Sunny Lu https://i.imgur.com/J4cLKxl.png Shady Vechain strategic advisor CREAM, aka Jackson Fu is also a leading hypeman who himself claims to own and run China's 2nd best performing hedge fund with 2% returns PER DAY. > "Before cryptocurrency I formed my quant hedge fund, it's still there in Shaghai. I am just not running it. *We're the 2nd best in China for 2 years in a row. In terms of steady returns, 2% per day. Not bad." - CREAM aka Jackson Fu Strategic Advisor to Vechain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juGWpVLPGHg&t=, around 3:30 Their modus operandi is hype hype hype...again, Vechain's strategic advisor: > "Pamp it...VET should be $1 by Sept 1st (2018)" https://i.imgur.com/h7uqMzW.png Vechain created massive hype saying they would be the most used blockchain in the world on mainnet and had to prepare for trillions of transactions. Here is their CEO Sunny Lu who was buying more Vechain for himself at $4 😂😂😂 > **With trillions of expected transactions**, the VeChainThor Blockchain will continuously collaborate with these security firms for peak performance. As companies continue to onboard post mainnet launch, in due time the VeChainThor Blockchain will be the most heavily used blockchain globally - Vechain Foundation https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechains-collaboration-with-slowmist-and-other-private-firms-to-secure-the-vechainthor-blockchain-8ed186c00f17 Sunny Lu brags again...buy buy buy > at mainnet launch, the VeChainThor blockchain will be the public blockchain with the most business activity in the world - Sunny Lu https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/an-open-letter-from-sunny-lu-ceo-on-vechainthor-platform-b52d47cd0efd Jason Rockwood Vechain General Manager also hypes that Vechain will dwarf every other blockchain > When VeChain launches, it will be the most used blockchain in the world. Because of the sheer number of transactions needed to enable the IoT data revolution for enterprises like the ones mentioned above, an enterprise grade blockchain needs to be able to massively scale. Currently, the Ethereum blockchain runs about 10 transactions per second. When VeChainThor launches on June 30th, it will be running around 50 transactions per second, probably more. Not because it “can”, but because it has to to keep up with client demand. - Jason Rockwood, General Manager, VeChain Americas ..and of course the price is going to explode because Vechain already has tons of enterprise clients who are migrating from the consortium chain, other Fortune 500 companies that are signed up and like him you should DOUBLE DOWN and BUY MORE!! > there are numerous other clients, both enterprise and governmental, that are in development under NDA", that "Fortune 500 companies working to come on board", that "June 30th (2018)...we will begin to migrate over the existing clients from a private chain to a public one", and that "I sleep very well at night knowing how much adoption VeChain will see in the next 12 to 24 months." He said that the prices were so low because "Well, the biggest reason is that we aren’t actually live yet" and that "Now is an excellent time to either hold what you have, or double down and buy more. https://medium.com/@jasonrockwood/hello-friends-7d99a8e48f76 (now deleted) As seen about Vechain's main use case is to hype and pump price. The Thunder, Strength, Mjolnir, X Nodes are not really master or staking nodes and have ZERO purpose but as marketing gimmicks to get investors to buy and hold large bags of Vechain. They also hyped their Authority Nodes and that they're a proof of authority blockchain with 101 active validators who will be putting their identities.....almost 3 years later, there has been no annoucement who the 101 authority nodes are. Again, marketing gimmick. > It is when their identities and reputations are at stake that all the AMs can be held accountable and incentivized to work in the best interest for the networks growth and security https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/defining-the-vechainthor-blockchain-consensus-proof-of-authority-8cf3f51a5fa0 Here are more marketing gimmicks used by Vechain to pump price. Lotteries. You hold while the price drops and you might win in some lottery: https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/one-year-anniversary-and-x-node-binding-lottery-event-51be44dd0738 And Vechain has tons of these lotteries to get you to hold while the price drops: https://twitter.com/vechainofficial/status/1025778761940127745 And don't forget partnerships. Everything is a partnership for Vechain and they have parntnerned with everyone under the sun: Partnered with Oxford University...whoops they deleted that article: https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/the-mathematical-institute-at-oxford-university-joins-vechains-veresearch-program-to-provide-25246284cb02 "Open Partner Program" that is free of charge where companies are encouraged to participate. VeChain has turned this into a "VeChain has been chosen" for a partnership which is a blatant lie. https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-is-chosen-for-the-ntt-docomo-5g-partner-program-3f89c8d95b40 2,000+ companies attending the Expo in a gigantic mega-complex . This medium article makes it sound like Vechain got a special invitation and DNV-GL specifically asked to demonstrate the ‘‘DNV GL-VeChain Digital Carbon Ecosystem Experience Event" Hype hype hype https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-showcases-multiple-solutions-at-the-first-inaugural-china-international-import-expo-a855f356a690 Google 10,000 unique cars tracked on Cahrenheit blockchain based ecosystem...lots of hype then, nothing happened, dead link now http://cah.world/#Roadmap There are tons of tons of hyped parnterships...that is nothing but hype. Chinese Tobacco, Bright Foods, Government parterships with VeChain VETTED vaccines saving millions of Chinese children, Renault, BYD, lost track over the years. Anyone Vechain talks to or attends an open conference is a partner. Their closest thing is offering free use of their blockchain which it looks like Walmart China did as POC but nothing more. To this day, there is zero evidence that there is any company that has paid to use the Vechain Blockchain.

whisperedstate

Comparing Ethereum to Veracity is astounding logic. All of the things you've described are happening on Ethereum, it's just that adoption is going to be slow, like all technology adoption curves. Also, ETH is worth 500B. Not sure what people are expecting, but if Ethereum becomes the value layer of the world, akin to the internet being the data layer, then we're only talking a few T in mcap. So realistically Ethereum has a 5-10x left, over a very long period of time, if everything lines up correctly. Veracity on the other hand is a complete shitcoin and ZERO chance of doing anything but making founders and the team rich. There are many many coins just like this. So you're saying "I invested in ETH" to this person as though it's equivalent to their "investment" in Veracity. This person wishes they invested in ETH.

seancollinhawkins

Lol dude, you think TA (literal statistics) is dumb 🤣 most people (including you) dont know math; atleast not linear algebra / upper level stats. Not only that, but you dont understand basic supply/demand? Or is it that you don't understand BTC fundamentals? It's not magic. The BTC God opened his mouth one SATurday and spoke, "Let there be halving". (Why do you think theyre called sats??) There ya go, dude. I explained it to you, and then i put it in language you might understand: A) educationally/logically- (not everyone understands logic, Champ, so don't feel bad!) and B) religiously- Ye of no faith shall spend eternity plagued by your own mental shortcomings. Forever, you will post dumbass shit on reddit about shit you dont know fuck about. You a will then try to argue your point with literally ZERO logic or sense, because youll forever be too dumb to realize that you're a mouthbreather. Forever and ever. Amen 🤓🥸

shadowmage666

There should be ZERO other data on btc other than financial records , PERIOD

Dry-Part4473

adding one more ZERO very soooooonnnn

reddituserxxxxxxx7

Dude. Bitcoin isn’t some get rich quick scheme. There is no such thing and the odds of you finding the 0.000001 stock or get rich quick ticket is virtually ZERO. If you believe in Bitcoin, DCA and stop looking every 5 fucking minutes. It’s an investment. An investment that has performed very well OVER TIME. It’s not gonna go to $1,000,000 over night. Everyone is scared right now. In 6 months it’ll be a whole different story. In 6 years, who knows. In another 6, who knows. Buy the ticket, take the ride. STOP LOOKING. Just auto invest and live your life. Open up the Stocks app on your iPhone. Look at the chart from the beginning: $58,000 -> $35,000 $61,000 -> $38,000 $45,000 -> $20,000 $102,000 -> $80,000 $80,000 -> $125,000 JUST LOOK at the DIPS and EXPLOSIONS. This is nothing. Buy and wait. Imagine how those people feel/felt? Imagine seeing it at $20,000 and selling thinking there is absolutely NO WAY it can go any higher, fast forward a few years, $125,000. ROUGHLY 3 YEARS AGO IT WAS $20,000?!?!! The value of bitcoin isn’t waiting for it to go high then selling it and getting rich off the dollar. The dollar is dying. The value of bitcoin is OWNING bitcoin.

virtuzoso

If it can break Bitcoin, then Bitcoin will be the least of your problems. Credit cards, every single government, every single bank, every nuclear facility will have ZERO digital security

judge-genx

0 or ZERO. Which ever resonates the most

Arijan101

This is a completely non-sensical analogy. But let's go with it, if you already brought it up. Obviously you can own someone's life because it's illegal after the abolition of slavery, but when it was legal people used to pay for other people because they could provide real value (work the fields, mines, tend to the house..), even though they knew that the people they are buying will eventually die. That's the same reason people and business pay their employees, because they create value. So to answer your childish question, no your life or life in general isn't a scam. When you buy stocks, you buy ownership of a company that sells real products/services other people actually need, even gold if you buy it, you can physically own it, and if it goes down in price, you can still make jewelry or electric cables out of it, unlike crypto currencies (like XRP) which are basically lines of code, and the price is based on how many suckers buy into the scam, and they buy into it solely based on hype and speculation, hoping that "line goes up". XRP isn't used by any bank, Ripple isn't replacing SWIFT no reputable institution will ever use it because they know it's a scam, and there is ZERO need for it's existence. Even if it doubles in price by EOY it doesn't mean it's legit, it just means that more 🍭 bought into it. And when enough 🍭 buy into it, and line goes up sufficiently, the "whales" start dumping.

ImmaFancyBoy

Accountants hate this *one simple trick* to paying ***ZERO TAXES!***

grndslm

Absolutely I'm referring to the meaning of the REAL word "consensus". Policy is really a part of consensus, whether you want to believe it or not. And devs have ZERO business changing default policy that has been in place for more than 10 years. The comments in policy.cpp literally state: "// NOTE: This file is intended to be customised by the end user, and includes only local node policy logic" When devs can change code like this, and alter what Bitcoin what it's used for, ultimately affecting what it is.... then it loses the ability to say that it's designed around "Trust Minimization". [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5LpgX-pkUM&t=1995s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5LpgX-pkUM&t=1995s) Also... what Adam Back says for the \~3 minutes prior to that timestamp pretty much refutes what Adam Back has been saying for the past couple years.

Annual_Caramel_3368

Sell IT all!!! Its going to zero. ZERO!! (Or not exaclty zero, but really low) and I will be more than happy to buy yours bitcoins at a better price 📉 Don’t hesitate for a minute and sell it all!!

Benzo_Head

True, I’m European and I saw ZERO gains in 2025

Amber_Sam

>All these terminologies Like the previous generations had to learn, USB, internet, email, smartphone... >and apps needed A decade or so, we had ZERO Bitcoin apps. It was much harder than having too many choices today. >plus having to control it all the time like a tamagochi... How exactly? Move your sats to a cold wallet, and forgetaboutit!

xte2

To get popular you need spread technical knowledge, people have on average ZERO knowledge so they simply can't distinguish in tech terms, they just see price and liquidity.

mr_605

Yes with one big difference. Before there was the risk btc would be banned by nations and GO-ZERO. There was more talk about possible use cases today it’s a store of value. Nowadays it obvious it not only the holders saying its here to stay but entire nations.

TheGrasshopper92

Can you be more assumptive? I gave you exactly the ones that I care about — the 1% — those that don’t give back to their communities, those that don’t pay their fair share of taxes, those that skirt their moral and ethical obligations to their species in order to swim in their wealth Scrooge McDuck style. It’s not a specific monetary value I care about because “money” is a societal construct. It’s the “me-me-me” mentality and “more-more-more”. Plenty of ultra wealthy individuals give back and do their best to make the world a better place and I support them. Go day trade and make your bag bubba. I truly don’t give a fuck. But with your mentality you might want to watch out when the uprising finally comes. You clearly have ZERO morals or ethics of which to speak but I bet you’re a “devout Christian” in public eyes 😂

bimbobandit2016

There are exactly ZERO celeb coins that have not rugged shortly after launch. Some take a few days, others take mere minutes

Amber_Sam

[ZERO. ZEROOOO!](https://youtu.be/xX21rnDV-oo)

FlagFootballSaint

I am amazed that people don‘t call it for what it was: A financial coup of the Trump family to enrich themselves. There is ZERO reason for this China thing that Trump pulled up to come up with a random 100% tax. Literally none. It‘s even beyond Trumps stupidity to pull it up. The Trump cluster opened leveraged short positions, the family boss then pitched out a random tax thread to the world economy and boom what‘s supposed to happen happened.

Future-Bet4783

I tried to warn everyone that it was looking bearish that the quarterly and monthly chart opened massively green with ZERO wick to the downside however I was met with much animosity and “uptober” now that we’ve created a quarterly and monthly wick, we could make new highs. I’d suggest sticking to charts that are still in a weekly uptrend like SPX6900

Kurved420

I TOLD YOU GUYS BTC IS GOING TO ZERO/S Normal dip if you are old school chill down and eat some nachos or something like that.

Ecstatic-Oil-Change

“Bitcoin is going to ZERO!” - 🤡

vip_magnadvisor

It is time to sell ALL of it before price of BTC drops to ZERO and you are left with NOTHING.

Due_Character7533

I find it hard to believe there is ZERO value at all in the space at all, but admittedly, it's just very difficult to find amongst the rubbish out there. Where are you turning to for info these days?

ozera202

Thumbs up if you in alts …. I have ZERO BTC …… Fucking ZERO!

Benzo_Head

Altcoins are ponzi schemes with ZERO intrinsic value. That’s why Bitcoin keeps making new ATHs meanwhile these shitcoins are trading at -70% compared to 2021. Stop getting scammed and wake the fuck up

Few-Engineering9803

Post your address then. "Please believe me".....gives out ZERO info...smart move.

Jayfree138

Just throw all the tea or whatever is over there now into the harbor. It'll pan out in a few hundred years. Worked for us 😂. We pay ZERO taxes in the USA on any investments held longer than a year under about $60,000 income. That's including the standard deduction everyone gets on taxes. Some states tax a little but we can just move to the ones that don't.

smilingbuddhauk

Your logic in the last sentence makes zero sense. If the theory was indeed true, you'd probably want to go balls deep in bitcoin. Blackrock bitcoin US crypto-based debt into crypto devalue dollar BUT buy metals makes ZERO SENSE. Do you see the cognitive dissonance now?

tax-anon

How many of you casuals on here don’t even know blackrock owns ZERO bitcoin

DaleAguaAlMono

Something in between ZERO and A LOT

mrjune2040

"with altseason almost on the horizon"—there is ZERO indication that's the case. For all you know the cycle has topped. People need to stop talking in cliches—global economic conditions are complex, just because something happened in the past in no way means that it will repeat. And in regards to Alt's in general—it's just diminishing returns imo, total crypto MC is already 4 trillion and you have hundreds of tokens competing for the Alt pie in an market environment with very little retail liquidity and institutional support clearly focused at the top end (BTC and ETH), it's an entirely different situation to 17/18 and 21/22 where MC's were small and retail liquidity was rampant (to the extent of being a generational bubble which created the inflation we're stuck with now).

Few-Engineering9803

So is everyone else, when you provide ZERO context to your issue. Cmon, dude....you can do better than this.

DiddysAfterparty

Bitcoin to ZERO ❗️

biba8163

I am up over 400% on all my BTC buys from the bear market in 2023. That's better performance than almost anything else I could have put my money into. Sure I could have put everything into NVDA or the 5 Alts out of 50,000+ that might have outperformed BTC but I don't have a crystal ball. Only thing I was fairly certain of was that BTC was trending up after a bear market bottom and it was a movie I'd seen before. *BTC is Alpha. BTC is the diversifier that gives you out-peformance in a portfolio of traditional assets* which you should be owning anyway. *A portfolio doesn't mean holding an assortment of shitcoins, the vast majority of which lose money and/or massively underperform BTC.* Alts give you ZERO diversification and only introduce more risk. Why? Alts have a very tight correlation coefficient with BTC, meaning you are totally depending on BTC appreciation to increase in value and even if BTC goes up, most Alts likely still won't appreciate much or at best just pump and dump which you won't be able to time. | Asset |From 2/10/2023 | |:-----------|------------:| | NVDA | 742%| | BTC | 428%| | GOOGL | 154%| | AMZN | 137%| | GOLD | 98%| | QQQ | 93%| | MSFT | 90%| | SPY | 59%| | AAPL | 49%| Sharing 1 address with ~$5,000 invested in cycle bear market of February 2023 ==> Current value ~$28,000 https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/38DsNUNwTfuGsnPzCF9EyotGq1wuuiqhsu It's a timelocked BTC HODL address. Here is the redeem script which shows the address whose private key can can unlock this timelocked address above. https://coinb.in/?verify=04d05f3978b17521027e56340dfee827c839e97d7557c4d273ba165617e5ea5f600d7f8415c72ec3ceac#verify - Address of Private Key: 1MdgmaePEskR9MLJK4YuhqxUhYKtK8yQDC - Message: biba8163 - Signature: Hy20piDSMP/CyMzIl736GES0x9oQPm3TeL0GNE/K5ZyuX+FPX2jW9kyW4AsYYkqwsMpz/XR7Cfwrj7Ezbu3Gg9w= - Verify @ https://checkmsg.org/

AU-n-Time

NEVER and I mean NEVER leave your BTC on Coinbase for ANY length of time. I had an absolutely horrible experience with them. For no reason whatsoever my BTC was essentially frozen for months. This was MY MONEY and they held it hostage for ZERO reason. Their customer service is non-existent, no help by a human is offered. I had to move forward with a law suit to unfreeze my account. Once I did that and threatened legal action I was miraculously able to pull my BTC and get it in cold storage. DO NOT HOLD BTC ON COINBASE period HARD STOP!!!

Amphibious333

The petrodollar, that's what they mean. The dollar is backed by the petrodollar, which is backed by the military. It's about blood in the Middle East, you know... The system is dominant globally, because it's about making trade settlements in dollars, while the trades are about strategically and geopolitically important resources like oil. The energy industry is a leverage. The energy sector is based on oil, which makes oil a strategic asset. Without energy, nothing can ever take place in physical reality, so energy is used as a tool of control against client states of the dollar. No energy means ZERO economic activity, basically, a full-blown nation collapse. That way, so-called allies, basically proxies and vassals, are coerced to either use the dollar or face invasions. Basically, the military takes over oil fields under the guise of fighting terrorism, companies extract the oil, then the US sells the oil. It's really a very bloody and deadly system.

Putrid-Land-3528

Gold would be useless if fiat was useless, in the apocalyptic world only resources would be useful. Food, Bullets, Home, Energy. Gold would have ZERO value

e07f

not as much. There is ZERO chance people are struggling with their mortgage now more than 2008. It’s not a possibility

Direct-Gazelle7986

There are ZERO dollars stored in bitcoin. All the dollars spent on bitcoin were simply handed over to those who sold it, from those who bought it.

jawni

Which is more interesting: **A** >[MOST INVESTORS HAVE ZERO ALLOCATION TO CRYPTO: BANK OF AMERICA >Bank of America’s September survey shows 67% of fund managers hold no crypto. Only small fractions allocate 2% (3%), 4% (3%), or 8%+ (1%). The average allocation is just 0.4%. Overall, 84% haven’t started structural crypto investments, while only 8% have.](https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1967961196864127395) or **B** > [CZ marked the bottom > Binance is close to reaching deal with the US > CZ updates bio removing the "ex" from @binance >Interesting.](https://x.com/0xGumshoe/status/1968010475062591920)

AmadeusBlackwell

OP didn't absolutely ZERO research before making his purchase. Nice.

kumawewe

DOGE is so pointless, serves zero purpose but the speculation this pile of shit has seen, I agree, it's going to explode. Elon has ZERO to do with this coin

Express_Pace4831

BITCOIN IS GOING (to add another) ZERO

Personal-Ebb-4717

Cryptobro always say that everyone has to buy BC in the future. But, they never say WHY anyone has to buy BC. Why do our allies and enemies have to by BC at 10x, 100x, 1000x the price? is BC necessary to run a country? Are their economy gonna implode if they don't buy BC? Is the buses gonna stop working and the food stop growing if they don't buy BC. And why can't they just create their own crypto tokens. Who do people have to buy BC? It's crazy talk from a greedy madman. BC network consumed enough electricity to power a city, and offers the world ZERO functional benefit. Its only purpose to this day is for Speculations, Crimes, and Money Laundering.

dylflyd

Awesome question! **The price impact on LEGACY AMMs (UniV2 style) is objectively horrible:** \- You need \~800x TVL : SwapAmount ratio to keep price impact < 0.5% \- With a 1 BTC swap (assume BTC = $100k USD), you'd need $80M in TVL. \- A $100k swap on a pool with $20M in TVL would result in 2% price impact. See more in the table. Not great! || || |% of Total Pool|% of X Reserves|Price Impact %| |0.10%|0.20%|\-0.40%| |0.50%|1.00%|\-1.97%| |1.00%|2.00%|\-3.88%| |2.00%|4.00%|\-7.54%| |5.00%|10.00%|\-17.36%| |10.00%|20.00%|\-30.56%| |15.00%|30.00%|\-40.83%| |20.00%|40.00%|\-48.98%| |25.00%|50.00%|\-55.56%| |30.00%|60.00%|\-60.94%| |40.00%|80.00%|\-69.14%| |50.00%|100.00%|\-75.00%| Note: traders still pay fees to liquidity providers as well, but the fees don't cause price impact as they aren't based on the size of the trade. **With the HODLMM, price impact is ZERO within a single bin.** A pool has many bins, each representing a specific price point. The only limiting factor on how much volume could be processed with ZERO slippage is how much liquidity is available from LPs in that bin. If you have to traverse N bins to fill a swap order, the quote can be calculated as the weighted average of your swaps at each price point across all N bins. For liquidity providers, rather than deploying liquidity across an entire pool, you can put it to work in a smaller price range where more swaps occur (and thus where more yield is earned). When visualizing a HODLMM pool, you'll see the distribution of liquidity across these price bins. You'll be able to compare against the price volatility over various time periods (1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, etc). You get the historical data of how much the price is moving, you get the social proof of where others have (and have not) provided liquidity, and you can make your own judgement call about the best price range strategy to deploy funds over. Hope this helps!

namelessdrifter

$110k we are going to ZERO

LovelyDayHere

I just checked the malware's bitcoincash address list and none of the attacker addresses had received any BCH. Total BCH funds lost in this attack so far, as of right now: ZERO. Is it possible that your funds were lost through some other vector?

SplitElectronic5267

Banks are beyond at risk at this point. Everything is backed by FIAT, which is rapidly going to ZERO

systematicgoo

if you’re smart and decided to have ZERO kids and stay single while living minimalistically, and not having succumbed to consumer culture… i’d say probably 2 btc if you’re living in a first world country