VR

kvothe5688

vision pro is for rich enthusiasts. not going to blow AR/VR space at all.

Illicitterror

They put on their new apple VR sets and go to town coding and pizza parties.

-Blue_Bull-

Apple are about to blow up the AR / VR space with vision Pro.

StockTrix

* three years ago it was nanotech * two years ago it was quantum * last year it was metaverse/AR/VR * this year it's AI Bro, just ignore the fluff and DCA that btc.

slasula

that the new Apple VR headset right? Seems like a huge development but only heard about it in this subreddit. Maybe I need to broaden my subreddits

Boring_Ad4003

VR / AR has plenty of uses in a lot of business, where immersion is not as important as visual fidelity

myscienceisbetter

It won't! We're still years away from true immersion in VR. Metaverse is a nice concept, but until you have neural connection, it won't catch on. My 2c

0ne_too

The chip sure, i guess. But it doesn't have the cache of Apple putting out a VR headset. AR/VR headsets have always been imagined to be how the Metaverse would be experienced. Not the 2D stuff we have now. But yes chips are also one of the hardware pieces that need to take steps forward for metaverse to become reality. The watch doesn't have anything to do with metaverse.

dimi727

actually watching this. If this works, its more like an PC + Monitor replacement. Depends on how "powerful" this helmet could be. Its actually not VR :/

dimi727

Hmm so many bad events... But another topic: with apple finally entering the VR game and making it accesible to all their billion fanboys, bringing it to mainstream: will VR worlds, nfts, games etc see a new spring?

slasula

wait what’s happening with Apple and VR?

timelesssmidgen

Does Apple VR have any direct crypto tie in? Or people tanning about it here just because it's techy and vaguely related to vr projects in general?

BradVet

Apple trying to tempt me to sell my moons for VR pro, tempting but not going to happen Tim

JuggaliciousMemes

can’t make me more nauseas than VR so no matter how bad it gets issallgood to me😄

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Virtual reality and metaverse crypto tokens have surged by over 7.9% in the past 24 hours as investors anticipate Apple's VR headset reveal on Monday. Apple's share price has risen by 7.4% in the past two weeks, and the company is expected to mass release a mixed reality headset in Q4 of this year. The wider metaverse sector has suffered during the crypto winter, but the recent bounce indicates that the tide may be shifting. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

kcarmstrong

This is so stupid. These tokens obviously have nothing to do with Apple or VR. We are living in truly stupid times

SuperAppleLover

Hopefully with Apple VR coming, I can do both in my bed.

Soil_Electronic

Gonna be one expensive VR

Golgoin

Watching 1sec charts in VR? Count me in :D

ShotCryptographer523

Apple releasing their VR headset later on. Not sure how it will affect crypto. Time will tell.

Spacedude2187

Seen some talks in something related VR/AR with Apple.

MichaelAischmann

Zuckerberg changed his profile picture. He's wearing all the "meta verse equipment" like VR glasses & controllers in his hands. Maybe people jumped on that like when Elon made DOGE the Twitter logo for a short time. Or maybe it's just crypto doing crypto things.

GreedVault

Hope you have an exciting day ahead. Metaverse-related crypto is doing well today. I suppose it might have something to do with the rumours that Apple is releasing a VR/AR headset.

GreedVault

Hopefully, Apple's VR/AR headset will make a significant impact on the metaverse.

SirAlexanderFerguson

I hope we see a nice RNDR pump with the Apple VR release

edwardanilbq

You are right, although we have been seeing some partnership way back, but it tends to be more rapid than before, few weeks ago BMW partnered with Meta to bring about In-car VR messaging. This was first brought to life by holoride - The world’s only motion-synced in-car VR experience I expect to see more, especially in the AI sector.

RedBunery

I can't game out on the street with my VR headset while going about my daily business? Those final scenes really bothered me, with all the pedestrians getting in on the action...

Morning_Star_Ritual

I can’t wait to refer back to these comments. Presence. That’s what drives VR. What most doubters will experience for the first time in an Apple Store. Then feeing some avatar your AI agent is using is present in your living room in AR mode. It takes 5-7 years to develop the type of virtual world in a AAA game. That’s why Zuckverse looks cartoony. Wait till people with your viewpoint see what happens with UE5 plugins for GPT4/5. Or when the masses realize the implications for NPCs in the Stanford paper on generative agents in a “sims” like world. Or when they realize a kid in his room can spin up a virtual world with the ease of making a map in Fortnite creative. I’m sure you and the others are right. What does Apple know? The entire concept is stupid. Right? This is why a bull run happens. A manja phase. Everyone calls it a scam and hype until it’s painfully obvious it has found product market fit. Then they pile in. Less the 20% of people have used ChatGPT. How many have trained an Agent with AutoGPT? Most think AI is hype. Once they use plugins everyday and then buy their first agent they will realize it’s not hype. When interacting online phases from what we are doing here to a “web3D” for AR gaming or VR exploration (there will be as many worlds or games as there are websites) refer back to this moment. Even on Reddit. In a crypto sub. I was the same way. So I tried to train myself to be open to new ideas I found on Reddit. Back then I thought the people in the Silk Road sub using bitcoin were stupid. All hype. And also danced on the grave of bitcoin. The Metaverse is dead, long live the Metaverse.

baconcheeseburgarian

Apple's primarily focused on usable AR. They are going mass market for this. The device will be able to do VR gaming but it wont have a Horizon Worlds kind of interface initially. They are more bullish on AR over full immersion VR.

Ofulinac

I mean you can't promise insane tech and then deliver games like VR Roblox.. The Metaverse just isn't on the level people expect it to be.

guminisfj

This is why it's important to keep holding or accumulating more of the tokens/coins that have utilities, there is no way you will miss out on the bull run with coins like ETH, BTC, MATIC, BNB as large caps and SYLO, VR, ONT, INJ as low caps.

urbanhikers

Six more days to go for Apple VR launch. I am still confused which token will benefit most. Or if this will be another non event for crypto!

Nose_Grindstoned

(Consider getting a Quest 2, not for the virtual world crap, rather simply for the massive movie theater screen to watch stuff. Plus, the interactive experience games, and the escape room type games, VR really is a magical new technology and experience). Mass adoption of a virtual world is never going to happen, but the userbase of all virtual worlds combined is always growing. This doesn't help much having everyone so fragmented... so what I see in the future is mass adoption of augmented reality: a person in their home could visit a real life location with their avatar, and interact with the real people at that location. Meanwhile the real people at that location could see and interact with the avatars.

Future-Tomorrow

These companies will be hailed by historians as the early pioneers. The metaverse won’t make sense until humans can literally connect to it via their synapses. This is beyond VR headsets. Way beyond. Elon’s recent win is significant as are several developments not that mainstream. Just this weekend I saw a commercial for a device that’s on the market that looks eerily familiar to a project I concepted 4 years ago and found on my portfolio site. All the data goes to your phone continuously. Black Mirror gets it right, as do a number of shows and movies I can think of that are predictive of this future “reality” yet have some foundation in the aforementioned work alluded to being done in this area.

dagget10

It's because we already had digital property. It's called DNS. Why not just create a decentralized metaverse with some standardized stuff and a VR equivalent to html? You want land, you run a server with DNS directed at it for connections Could also benefit by acknowledging the hype around the metaverse is based entirely around things we can't do in real life. I want to jump from Facebook to Mario Kart within 10 seconds without too much of a jump, not play table tennis in a silent room

urbanhikers

With one week left for Apple VR launch, there were some random upward Meta token movements. Other than that, didn't see any visible volatility. There might be some other factors including debt ceiling talks. But with that factor being settled now, and not much liquidity in the market, I hope it does not end up in a non event.

Umarzy

I saw CZ's tweet about it, and he says it talks a lot about AI, VR, NFTs & Metaverse. Gavin Wood & Beeple mentioned too. Maybe we'd get another strong trend for the AI narrative. Feels good to be well-positioned in OCEAN, FET & AGIX.

Kindly-Wolf6919

I think most people don't even own a VR headset and anyone who knows quality knows alot of these metaverse prototypes are all hype with nothing substantial. So nobody is going to buy a VR headset for a sub par experience. And by the time the Metaverse becomes a high quality product the major titles we know today probably won't even be at the top anymore.

The-Aspect-of-Wisdom

To be fair, the whole market has been sent suffering lately but I can't say I ever saw this ending well. I just don't think the technology is there yet to create a metaverse that is anything more than cool gimmick for people who already own a VR headset.

ball_armor

~~VR porn~~ video games

likejoanbaezux

​ \>How are you degenerates chosing your coins? Choosing a token is a complex decision, there is no such thing as a one-size that fits everyone. The best thing is to do your own research to know what the token is used for, the team's experience, and the market cap. \>The 3 coins I'm targeting now are GFAL, PIP(good luck buying this), and IMGNAI Good luck and hopefully it will work out for you, I've been getting more of ETH and Dia, because there can't be too much of them. I'm also looking into Ride, a new metaverse project that uses VR tech to integrate Blockchain into moving cars.

danni_darko

Don't be a doomer, man. Apple is going to release their VR headset next 5th June and the tokens related with Metaverse/Vr are expected to skyrocket (actually RNDR and HIGH are already doing so).

danni_darko

When I read the title of your post, I thought that you were going to talk about the current super early Metaverse/VR/AR trend that almost nobody is talking about that is going to make many metaverse/VR/AR related tokens to explode big time due to the next Apple event on 5th June where they will introduce their VR headset + other gaming related events happening in June too. Tokens like RNDR, DOME, HIGH, CAPP and ILV should explode, so I am not going to waste my time and money buying BTC or ETH like most normies.

ShotCryptographer523

True. Weekend coming too. Maybe drop then. Got my eye on the June 5 release of Apple's VR headset. Thanks mate.

ThatInternetGuy

You will miss 10x VR/AR coins in June for sure.

NaibofTabr

Everyone interested in this topic should watch this. If you want to see a version of a VR world that is actually good, give your time/attention/money to projects that are **not** like this. (I don't know what they are, I hope there's something out there)

WarbledScreeches96

The only people who actually saw it as the future were techbros detached from all reality who thought VR was the future of office work, who proceeded to push billions into that garbage money-sink while neglecting pretty much everything that people actually use VR for. The metaverse is dead because silicone valley is an echo chamber.

JuggaliciousMemes

if it wasn’t for the headaches and nausea i would have gotten into VR a long time ago

timtucker_com

Until we get to the point that visual implants are feasible, both VR and AR are dead in the water for anyone who's blind. We're still a long way off from that: [https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete](https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete)

Positron49

https://www.protocolgemini.com Protocol Gemini is built on Ethereum L2 (Loopring) with partners for the VR piece in the future. The number one issue with some of this stuff is the misnomers taking place that gives people the wrong idea. Meta was building a VR discord chat. Builders on Ethereum are building smart contracts and NFTs are the keys. Those smart contracts are doors and inside are games, objects, virtual places etc. The smart contracts and doors can be programmed to require different inputs. Protocol Gemini is the ability to use your GPS coordinates as part of the multi sig to access. For example, you could build a copy of your house in a game or program, mint it to the GPS of the location of your house in real life. The NFTs minted could be keys to access the virtual house, which you could give your friends. So to most users they would see a virtual house in protocol Gemini but couldn’t open it, you and your friends could and see whatever you designed.

DarthBuzzard

> VR has a pretty poor track record of accommodating people with visual disabilities When VR headsets act the same as prescription eyeglasses allowing glasses-wearers to use VR easily, and when VR headsets have commonly accessible software that can be used to cure/treat various eye conditions, then it will at that point be well-accommodated for people with visual disabilities. AR, is another avenue, where with the right level of tech it will augment senses beyond human limits, allowing both disabled and non-disabled people to experience a much greater degree of awareness.

GateNk

Yup. You can go on Lighthouse.world to get an idea of all the interesting spaces to visit across most of these worlds (they index experiences from about 25+). Something I posted in another thread asking why the interest for Metaverse spaces has been waning: --- First, I think metaverse applications will simply provide an alternative, not a replacement for analog experiences. Just like listening to mp3s on Spotify didn't replace concertgoing or watching an mp4 on my phone didn't outright replace moviegoing. Many industries might have another player to share collective space with, but I don't believe it will replace everything. Text-based content is still most useful for disseminating information and learning/teaching and that's simply not going away. Second, if the hype has been waning, it's because just like with crypto, the hype hasn't really led to the breakthrough applications and experiences people were promised. People have not yet been given a reason to want to spend time in these spaces and understand how the Metaverse is meant to fit into their lives. Then again, Spatial/Mona/Oncyber/Hyperfy/DCL/etc. are still young platforms; with some showing more promise than others. These platforms also offer a very limited view of what the metaverse is supposed to encompass (e.g. AR/VR/Digital twins/etc.) But if the metaverse is indeed meant to provide an alternative for the many reasons we physically go places (e.g. work, leisure, social, travel, education, shopping...), it seems like every involved party has so far over-indexed on retail ''experiences'' or art galleries because these are the quickest low-hanging fruits to produce while every other potential use case remains severely underdeveloped. Even the social aspects of these Metaverse platforms aren't as compelling as the games always mentioned in this conversation (i.e. Roblox & Fortnite) which actually give users things to do and want to come back to. The calculus seems to be that if the barrier to entry is made lower, that alone should draw in some people, and if you happen to bump into like-minded people while exploring, then that should provide some stickiness... But this is made harder when so many places are being created without any clear focus; where should one go to find these people if open enough to want to give these spaces a chance? And if you don't hit it off with anyone on your first, second, or third visit, how likely are you to go back, really? Games normally let you find out if they're enjoyable before you start looking for a community to help sustain the interest. In the current state of metaverse platforms, you'll mostly find yourself running around alone in empty spaces or playing 3D chat roulette and hoping for a chance enjoyable encounter. And why does everybody need their own little virtual rooms, really? What can I do in there that's going to pull me away from doom-scrolling on social media, chatting on Reddit, watching content on Youtube, reading articles on an actual website, playing a fun videogame, listening to music on Spotify...? I think that's why so many people see it as a solution in search of a problem for now, because it hasn't clearly communicated its purpose beyond visions of interoperable avatars and more ''presence'' across virtual meetings. I personally think there's still a lot of experimentation that can be done to explore how 3D virtual spaces can be best leveraged. A lot of energy is put into making 3D space creation easier, and I hope that leads to a shift of focus towards finding applications that would dethrone - or at least compare to - gaming as a compelling reason to want to immerse yourself into an enclosed experience. Right now, most skeuomorphic applications seem to fall completely flat, but that doesn't always have to be. The gaming industry has already figured out how to make sticky virtual environments, but what incentives do they have to support the aforementioned platforms? If gaming is to remain the killer app of the Metaverse, then most of these worlds' efforts might be in vain until some AAA studio like Epic (who already has a solid engagement core loop with games like Fortnite) decides to give them a lifeline by supporting 3rd party self-custodied assets. Still, the incentives for Epic to support, say, DCL avatars in their games seem unclear to me. Like with many things in the web3 space, financialization opportunities for businesses often crystallize much faster than taking the time to communicate actual clear utility for end users.

timtucker_com

And many more simply can't. VR has a pretty poor track record of accommodating people with visual disabilities.

lordrognoth

Lightweight and untethered and it will go mainstream. Iv personally spent endless hours in VR and once you get it, there is no going back. The technology is already there and it's amazing. Vrchat is a great social experience, as is PokerStars VR, then you have f1 and flight simulators - it's on a completely other level and it's already pretty good. It's also the perfect work from home solution to the current problem of companies wanting people back in the office and people wanting to be at home, a headset and a virtual office solves it.

WallStLegends

It will all combine into a pretty cool digital landscape one day I feel. AI, AR/VR, NFTs/Metaverse. The problem is always that the money grabs steal the show and then the hype dies. But the technology and the ideas behind the metaverse will take off eventually. It’s just hard to get people into shit. It takes time. There needs to be some real progress made. Like for example when the Xbox was first released and I played Halo. That was a revolutionary experience. For metaverse to work it needs to be developed a lot more that’s all. Once the industry is refined you will see what I mean.

JoshieBravo

They either weren't serious or were over ambitious. The technology to make a fully functioning, easily adoptable and user friendly metaverse isn't even available to the public yet. Facebook are still developing the lightweight smart glasses that will allow everyone to have VR and AR in their pockets, the best headsets currently are still cumbersome and not many people's grandparents are gonna go for that.

Ermingardia

I'm in the Netherlands. We have to go to the office a minimum of 1 day per week. Still, we don't need VR for our hybrid meetings. We have some of those owl video conferencing systems.

ancheli

i think mass adoption of VR glasses will be brought by both porn and Roblox/Fortnite.

IrvTheSwirv

It was too early. Just like all the other times VR related stuff was too early for the current level of tech. It’ll come eventually but just because some hyperactive CEO decides the time is now doesn’t make it happen. In a way we’re still a little too early for Ai but there’s just about enough capability around that people are able to make crude use of it. When the tech catches up with the potential AI will explode. VR may follow that.

Mr_Bob_Ferguson

>once VR glasses get more accesible And the porn industry gets further onboard.

Nose_Grindstoned

I've been involved in metaverses since around 2006 when I discovered Second Life (still around and happening by the way). There's a difference between the blockchain, crypto, nfts, and a metaverse. These things can overlap... and the next step in the evolution of metaverses is for one to be Decentralized and running on the blockchain, inworld crypto and nfts are used. Various projects are making attempts, but a daily active userbase needs to be contually growing or value goes down inworld. Everyone has a different interpretation as to what a metaverse is, but I believe the ideal version is VR and AR based (users have avatars), Decentralized on the blockchain.

sweet_tinkerbelle

VR headsets are actually accessible? price kinda went down on new ones ever since companies started releasing their own headsets.

Abysskitten

You can play VRChat without VR glasses.

ancheli

I guess it might once VR glasses get more accesible

Zerox10

Yeah I think none of them were even better than like the typical VR Chat on steam. It also doesn’t help that VR headsets are still a pretty niche bit of equipment.

Intelligent_Page2732

Same here, I even wear VR glasses with my charts around me.

LifeIsAnAnimal

I think Rockstar games is positioned very well to turn GTA VI Online into a Metaverse. They will enable VR support, and create a coin “GTA Coin” that you will use to build your GTA empire. You can buy real estate, you can do jobs and earn GTA Coin, etc.

Itsatemporaryname

VR/AR != Metaverse

stormdelta

I could 100% believe that Apple is interested in AR/VR. But not "metaverse" - the whole idea of "metaverse" (to the extent it even has a consistent definition) fundamentally misunderstands the strengths/weaknesses of the tech and the history of the internet/social networks/etc.

Raccoon_Expert_69

The problem was 100% Facebook‘s approach to it. I design VR games and was talking about it with some other VR designers on Reddit and we all agreed that Facebook’s approach doomed them. The long and short of it is gatekeeping

GreedVault

Not really into day trading or anything technical, but I do read enough news to determine whether it's a buy or sell signal. For instance, I bought Decentraland and SAND after hearing the news about Apple's upcoming VR headset release. Another example is buying Litecoin when I learned about the upcoming halving. I've had both successes and losses. The losses usually happen when I become attached to a specific cryptocurrency and fail to sell when it's profitable. 😂

mdrehan4

$TRACE will start a berserk run soon! Apple will launch VR devices soon, all good Metaverse crypto will pump. Bag now,best volume on Huobi.

tsumy

Well, you better leave this question for the people fomoing now in empty and dead metaverse tokens. But apple sells expensive hardware, and they decide to create a new VR headshet. For what? No idea.

plxmtreee

I couldn't agree more! I'm looking forward to the user experience and gameplay of Illuvium and Metascapes. Their graphics are features look really promising and they're set to integrate features like the metaverse, VR, virtual paintball and mini quests among others in their gaming experience.

DarthBuzzard

> Not everyone can clear a whole room, kick out all pets/children, and ignore the entire house to play a videogame. That's about the most backwards description I've heard for what VR is actually like.

Kiiaru

Apple is 4 years late to the ar/vr party the gaming world was throwing (throwing up). I doubt apple can find some fuel for a fire that everyone gave up on. It's a great fun when you have the chance... But we exist in a world of distractions that you can't safely withdraw from any time you want. VR is awesome, but it's a narrow place. Not everyone can clear a whole room, kick out all pets/children, and ignore the entire house to play a videogame.

Consistent_Many_1858

Can't wait to try this out. I'm impressed with Sony VR2 so far.

Nuewim

Yeah, VR headset may be good, but you also need good metaverse games to play and those do not exist yet. All we have are "metaverse games" that aren't even slightly metaverse like.

Matth3w_95

You can have the best VR headset in the world, problem is The Sandbox is still far from being entertaining, let alone Decentraland.

3utt5lut

It'll happen eventually. I'm particularly waiting for the next Elder Scrolls, Fallout 5, and the new Ark, (which have all been VR in the past). I really want to get into it with haptic feedback and treadmills, but it's still just a dream. I tried something called "The Void" at a local arcade here, and it's literally interactive VR in an obstacle course, where you actually walk around with a team and go on adventures, it's pretty fun for how much better it can be.

3utt5lut

I had a Samsung Gear, and even though it was a much cheaper version of a new Oculus, the VR quality was very good. I have a few friends that hardcore VR game, and they absolutely love it (as well as a few that VRChat), but you have to keep up on the upgrades, to keep enjoying it (like any PC gamer). I'm a critic of the Metaverse because I want it to be a thing, as I'm a huge gamer (just most of my gaming funds have been going into crypto the last couple years). I'm waiting for more games to drip on PSVR2 before I start really diving in again. I'm eagerly awaiting playing PS5 games in 4K in theater mode. I don't think many people who've never tried a headset know how awesome this is?

DarthBuzzard

You are obviously correct, but apparently it's not so obvious. People are silly to assume that they spend any considerable money on the metaverse. Meta has shown countless research projects that will give you a clear indication of where their billions are going - to VR/AR hardware R&D. Anyone believing they have better knowledge than the CEO that gets to hang out in labs building this stuff is egocentric. He literally gets to peer a decade into the future in terms of hardware advancements - stuff no one here could ever imagine in their head.

DarthBuzzard

> but burning billions on something so goofy as the Metaverse is astonishing to me. They didn't burn much of anything on it. They burn that money on VR/AR. These are just clickbait articles.

special_onigiri

He not only killed metaverse but set back the VR world at least a few years. It's growing at its own pace until he fucked it up, now the immersive world of VR would be set back a few more years than normal since people wouldn't want to invest on it anymore.

Arcosim

>The project had soaked up $36 billion (about £30 billion) up to the end of last October I hope all that money at least helped advanced the VR and AR fields considerably. Even if VR and AR tech are a joke for the purpose Zuckerberg wanted to use them *(AKA replace business and social meetings)* they are still incredibly helpful in the skills training sector, medical and engineering visualizations, etc.

podfather2000

I'm just amazed by the amount of money Facebook was willing to spend on a novelty project. I can see the appeal of VR but burning billions on something so goofy as the Metaverse is astonishing to me.