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Every piece of financial advice you've every seen in social media, news, crypto news, every course for money etc is out rip you off
An approximated analysis of DOGE future price based on the current circulating supply
As crypto continues to become more and more common as a tool for investment - what do you think the makeup of a crypto index fund modeled after S&P Index Funds would look like?
When someone says "Coin XYZ has outperformed BTC in the last N months", or ANY such "X has outperformed Y over the previous N period", turn your BS meter to high. Any such comparison is INCREDIBLY sensitive to the start and end points - by months or even days.
Nvidia: Ethereum Merge Unleashes A Tsunami Of Used Graphics Cards (NASDAQ:NVDA)
What will ETH miners mine after the merge?
I have over 500k in bitcoin that I bought with borrowed money because I listened to Michael Saylor
Nancy Pelosi's Husband Loads Up On Nvidia Stock Ahead Of Chip Bill As Ethereum Pumps 50% Within 7 Days From $1000 to $1500
Bitcoin did well but some web2 companies did better in 2021.
Bitcoin did well but some web2 companies did better in 2021.
How I 25x my BTC. With some proof
I scraped r/cryptomarkets for the top ticker mentions in the last 24H. Here are the results (Friday November 26, 2021)
What FET is the most underrated Cryptocurrency
How to invest in crypto by investing in the stock market.
How Crypto Impacts the Chip Shortage This Year And Beyond
How Crypto Impacts the Chip Shortage
One dipshit’s opinion as to why we’re going to have a very bullish autumn
The only thing riskier than owning crypto, is not owning crypto
You can trade profitably, but most of the time it isn't worth it.
NVIDIA Couldn’t Evaluate Crypto Mining Impact as Q1 Profit Hits Record
I feel stupid and I should feel that way because I am - A lesson in playing both sides
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Anyone else successfully buy NVDA at the highest it will ever be? Mission accomplished.
When she initially sold NVDA I lost all trust in her.
Dumb comment. I am not saying that I would have held to $109,000. I am saying that the "a win is a win" mentality is fraught with dangers. I refuse to think in terms of "a win is a win". This is why I have 5000 NVDA at 24.
True. I’ve made more money this year on RKLB, KULR, IONQ, OKLO TSLA and NVDA. In the stock market than in crypto
Next target: when BTC price reaches 121,500 USD, it will dethrone NVDA as well.
Why does it matter? Your goal in life is to make enough to provide for yourself, your family, and have some leftover to enjoy. If you haven't been investing in stocks your whole life and suddenly think you'll get rich quick off of Bitcoin... lol joke's on you. Bitcoin already 10,000x-ed. Where were you? NVDA and TSLA 20xed in the past few years. Where were you?
That's when they tell you they bought NVDA in 2017, too.
I’ve become a millionaire 147 times thanks to Bitcoin. Those little coins gave me the freedom not to worry when I was let go from a prestigious board position for choosing not to get vaccinated during COVID. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise 🤭. I’m now serving on the boards of three even more prominent Fortune 15 companies and put it all on BTC and NVDA.
yet there are still here outperforming NVDA and MSFT.
….. *and outperforming* MSFT and NVDA.
Yup, something like $OM would've been bought like crazy (and dumped soon after) but you could make money on drama like this Market seems to be dead atm I had better luck buying NVDA dip
Such posts are just cringe. You're right Bitcoin has shot up miraculously in value from 2009 to 2025 even accounting for all the ups and downs. You'd be filthy rich. But why are we all here? Is it because we invested in 2009 and are laughing from our billionaire yachts? No, it's because 99.999% of you are dirt poor and hoping that somehow Bitcoin will save your financial life. I can name countless other examples of assets that have mooned since 2009. AAPL, TSLA, NVDA, GME, the rest of FAANG, etc are just a few to name. If you didnt' get rich off of Bitcoin, why didn't you get rich off of any of these other assets? I get it, you're all just pathetic failures hoping that somehow you pick the right assets for the next 50,000% return. We all want that, but maybe instead of relying on that as your only path to financial success, you can try working hard? For instance I graduated just before 2009 into the great recession. Yes, life sucked, but you know what, we had 15 years of a bull market since and economic growth that got better and better. Maybe 10 years ago in 2015 you could point at how life sucked and we were still recovering, but since everything has gotten better. My own income has 6x-ed since 2009. So even without Bitcoin or stonks, you should be able to climb yourself whether its career growth, income growth, etc.
Exactly just look at for example NVDA it lost between 40 and 50% over a few months then and bitcoin around 25%.
Not if you live in the US and pay for goods and services within the US in dollars. Why not accept MSFT or NVDA stock for tax payments; they are just as stable as Bitcoin.
Don't be naive. Bitcoin is excellent but saying it's the ONLY asset that'll keep going up is a bit of a dumb statement. Gold, stocks, real estate, collectibles, etc. List goes on. Is Bitcoin going to appreciate more? Possibly. But I've seen some collectibles skyrocket even higher than BTC over certain periods. NVDA did almost 1000% in the same time it took bitcoin to crash from 60k down to 15k and then back to 60k. Don't get me wrong, I love my BTC, but I definitely don't believe it's the only appreciating asset out there.
I do $10,000 per pay period (every two weeks) rain or shine to BTC. 15% to 401k, max a Roth, and about $2,500 in a mix of VTI, QQQM, NVDA, and IBIT stock/etf.
It \*is\* a sensational exaggeration. It's hyperbole born of paranoia. But then we have almost every day posts of people who have been scammed or have lost their coin. "Not your keys, not coins coins", well bye-bye to both... Plus, this kind of mentality goes exactly against the planetary spreading of Bitcoin, which will make us all rich. It does not make sense to think that the Government will seize your Bitcoin but not your dollars, or your NVDA shares, or your second home, or you cars and horses. EO 6102 drives them mad, but that was another time and another mentality. It would never work today.
Crypto ain't even degen anymore compared to megacap US equities. NVDA did 20% yesterday and there were 20 to 100x gains all over the mega cap options chains yesterday.
Of course anyone can find a winning asset. But why aren't you rich already from Bitcoin? Why didn't you get rich off of NVDA? TSLA? AAPL? There are countless ways to get rich.
Yeaaaaaa fuck stocks. I’d take bitcoin at 78k every day of the week this year before touching any American stock with a 100 foot poll (maybe NVDA with a 10 ft pole if it drops below 50)
Bitcoin is tracking the price of most major stocks, what's your point? Could have invested in NVDA 5 years ago and still be better off.
NVDA depends on AI. AI depends on GPU. GPU depends on rare earth. 90% of US rare earth imports come from China. China put tariffs on US imports but they also restrict rare earth exports to the US now. GPU not only become more expensive to produce in the US but companies that want to invest in the US will have difficulties finding the minerals they need to transform. Now, there are potentially other sources. Like Russia. But even if you lift the sanctions, there is no one mining it because aĺl the men of fighting age are in factories or in the army. And the concept of women doing traditional male jobs in Russia isn't really developed. Of course, there are rare earth deposits in Canada. Tariffed and won't be sold to the US. In the Dominican Republic: not ready to be exploited yet and subject to tariffs. In Ukraine: occupied by Russia in a war zone. In Wyoming: not ready to be exploited until a few years, and since every single piece of equipment needed just increased in cost, the project will be delayed. No financial institutions are going to loan money until the markets have stabilized and they can't do an IPO when all the stocks have cratered. But you do what you do. I am simply reminding you that the US just crippled their entire AI business. China is the clear victor. The US lost by a self inflicted wound. Unless some states manage to carve out exemptions for themselves, that business is moving elsewhere. And it's going to take time.
Are you guys just pulling numbers out of your ass? In the last year: BTC: +22% NVDA: +7%
Neat. NVDA did like 500% or more in that time frame.
You’re better off buying stocks at this point in terms of percentage gain. For BTC to go up 50% it needs to 120k +. I’d rather buy NVDA as it would need to get back to $130 for the same gain. Less risky and will prob stay up once it gets there without worrying about crazy volatility.
If you search my posts, I called the top in NVDA, and I called the level it’s at right now weeks ago. I have worked with plenty of hedge funds.
You have to be more humble, curious and less arrogant to understand bitcoin in the first place. Otherwise your “easy money” would be still S&P500 and NVDA.
Bitcoin is so big now it’s just astonishing, I feel like it is truly becoming the Global S&P or NASDAQ It shows that while it’s a risk-on asset there is still demand for it, even NVDA, QQQ, APPL, are all down more than Bitcoin on the week as typing this
Bitcoin is absolutely going to crash once the market opens.. the reason is pretty simple. It follows the stock market. NVDA premarket is 5.5% down.
OP, I like your common sense approach. The Bitcoin community attracts, by its nature, individuals with a high degree of paranoia about what the government will do to their money. It is in the nature of the "start" of the coin. However, as Bitcoin unavoidably expands and becomes mainstream, a huge number of individuals will be attracted to BTC as an excellent store of wealth and superior currency, and the risk of confiscation will be very low in their estimation. I recognise myself in this description. I see no reason why a Government who goes the expropriation route should choose BTC and say "if you have $3bn in NVDA shares nothing happens to you, but woe to you you have 0.2 BTC because I'll take them away". 6102 was a very exceptional measure. Countries like Italy have not started to expropriate gold, not even during WWI or WWII. If you ask me, it's something like the $5 wrench attack. It's good to reflect on these things, perhaps dedicate to them a part of the strategy. But going all hardcore bitcoiner is something that most people have neither the mentality nor the technical knowledge for. Not my keys. Still my coins.
To a degree yes. But with stocks have fundamentals. Fundamentals in investing are based on PE (Price to Earnings), revenues, future growth, return on equity, profit margins, the economy, interest rates and other financial data to determine the fair market value of a company. If the price tanks low enough, it will scream buy because PE will be low enough especially if it's a growing company. Crypto has no such fundamentals. It's based on speculation that the price will go up because of demand, macro conditions, hedge against inflation, etc. This is true for Bitcoin. This is also true for Gold. This is why Warren Buffet doesn't invest in Gold -- he does not touch speculative assets. The problem is crypto investors financially illiterate and think their shitcoins have utility and fundamentals. You will often hear illiterate crypto bros saying, the price keeps tanking but I am buying more because the fundamentals are still intact, the tech is great, etc. Technology, Scalability, TPS, Energy Efficiency, Network Security, Decentralization, Feelessness, etc all these attributes that crypto investors keep pointing to as fundamentals are NOT fundamentals. And yes, the mETH Head brain rot mantra of Triple Halving, Supply Crunch, RWA are all meme narratives and NOT fundamentals. If you try to value ETH in terms of PE ratio, it would have something 130+ PE ratio. For comparison, the S&P 500 has like a 25 PE ratio which is considered historically overvalued. High growth companies like Amazon and Apple have PE ratios in the 30s, NVDA an ultra high growth company right now has a PE in the 50s. Only meme stocks like GME have PE ratios in the 130s. **So ETH having fundamentals is a Meme.**
1 BTC is as arbitrary as “324 NVDA shares”. Decide first whether you think BTC is the best investment you can make. If the answer is yes, invest in it as much as you reasonably can.
As for vocabulary words and what they mean, investopedia is a great resource. YouTube is another great resource for general information as well. Just be careful on YouTube as learning all kinds of different things can actually hinder your progress as a trader. Too much information, especially information retaining to different things in the market can be bad and confusing. Start with a general topic and research subjects within that topic. Also every YouTuber can put out good or bad information. It’s up to you to decide what to do with that information. For example. Swing trading. Look at how to swing trade and how it works. Then how are you going to swing trade? Whether that will be buying stock shares, option contracts, or futures or forex. Then, what are you going to trade? Is that SPY, Apple, NVDA, or TSLA? Then ask yourself how are you going to do it? What is your strategy to swing trade that stock? The last question is most likely the hardest thing to do. A strategy brings everything you’ve learned onto the charts. Learning and practicing a strategy you will use to trade live will make it or break it. You can come up with your own or use someone else’s. Not every strategy will work. It’s different for each trader. 100% win rates is nearly impossible. Also, read up or research on risk management and emotions during trading. Those two factors are some of the biggest factors people forget. Risk management is important so you don’t loose all your money in one trade. Emotions are important as they can lead you to revenge trade or oversize your position. One more thing, use trading view to look at charts and do technical analysis. Stocks react to technical analysis 90% of the times. This includes trends and key levels. Very similar, if not the same as DEX screener and works in the same way, just better features.
Tarrifs are linked with stocks, stocks are linked with crypto (NVDA especially), when NVDA dumps (+NDX) crypto dumps, you can check it out yourself.
And? Bitcoin only has that potential if it actually replaces world finance, and it won't. Go invest into Bitcoin. You should, and everyone should. But it should be a part of your asset allocation. Don't forget to contribute to your 401k/IRAs. I'm going to bet you didn't contribute to those steadily for 14 years because if you did, you'd see how massive your balance would be today. My 401k 14 years ago was $40k. Today it's over $500k. Could it have been $50 million if it were Bitcoin? But if it were that easy why didn't everyone else do it? That's why you cant' be greedy. If you think it's so easy to find a 1000x increasing asset, then why didn't you get rich off of NVDA, TSLA, AAPL, AMZN, CSCO, MSFT, etc.? Oh that's right. It's easier said than done.
I mean it depends what you consider to be the desirable properties of Bitcoin. If it's only about price action, then we've already had a few, like ETH and NVDA. In terms of paradigm changing technical innovation, we've had LLMs, perovskite photovoltaic cells, ebikes, and we're possibly getting fusion power soon™. There's a ton of stuff going on, just gotta keep those eyes peeled.
Totally agree. People need to stick to their strategy and stop chasing emotions. Same pattern every cycle. Ethereum and NVDA might be two of the most undervalued plays right now—they’re involved in everything, and we’re heading into a fully digital world. Most still don’t see it
If you’re talking about $ gains then absolutely yes, just look around. NVDA a 30 year old company just did a 25x in 5 years
Trash heap guy could have focused on doing so much rather than Bitcoin. He should have bought NVDA or anything other than spend so much for it. I hope he does well. If he did get it he would likely be bankrupt in 3 years from that time because he doesn't know how to secure his stuff.
OH THAT!!! yes, sorry bout that. I bought some NVDA.. my bad
Well you seem new to this market, and quite frustrated about something else maybe. I've been holding since 2016-2017 and have lived through these cycles and sharing meaningful experience. Yes, Apple has been stagnant in their monthly chart. But what it proves is that you are the cherry picker given that among TSLA, AMZN, NVDA, META & AAPL there is only one outlier and you picked it...
You want a monthly timeframe ? Even better ! TSLA is down almost 40% in the past month. NVDA is down 20% in the past month. Meta almost 20% down in the past month. These are some of the Highest companies in the world by marketcap. The point is, you don't compare Bitcoin to SPY overall, you compare it to tech stocks. And in past cycles, bitcoin movement has been much much much more volatile and violent in times of crisis. For having lived it. This feels very very mild, and is a clear sign that it is becoming so much more resilient. Almost 80K usd , at a 17% fear and greed index ? The potential upside is insane.
Bunch of garbage there (excluding NVDA)
1. All cryptos are fundamentally the same. Same technology, capitalised by the same players and traded by the same sort of people for the same reason using the same tools, on the same platforms. Crypto traders are about as diverse as a KKK meet and greet. 2. The crypto market and particular US stocks are \*highly\* correlated. 3. Stock prices are being jolted by US events. None more so than TSLA, though NVDA, also popular among the crypto bros, is also struggling to fend off accusations of irrelevance as the AI hype cycle moves from 'the peak of inflated expectations' to the 'trough of disillusionment'. 4. As these particular stocks with questionable valuations sink, crypto is also sinking as people are forced to liquidate crypto positions to meet calls to try and cover their over-leveraged positions. 5. Adjacent to 4, Trump's establishment of crypto reserves is absurd, and the market knows it. A small group of thieves has seized control of a bottomless purse and they have form for financial crime and price manipulation. In fact, he established his own coin which he named after himself for a successful rug pull. Therefore the crypto reserve is not seen by traders as a good thing, particularly those outside of the US where sentiment has turned sharply negative. 6. Because of the above, liquidity for trading is drying up. Liquidity for capitalising the coins is also drying up as the big money watches the storm roll in. 7. Market makers are moving defensively against TSLA anticipating a failure. While it looks like it's going to jump if it doesn't do it soon they'll just shove it off the window ledge anyway as that's where the profit is. In summary, people can concoct all of the implausible bullshit they want to explain crypto prices but fundamentally it's always been pinned to real assets. Always was. And now those assets are going bye-bye.
The question you need to ask is whether or not you're in a bubble. It's looked to me for a while that there's a bit of a tech stock / crypto cult that's attractive to certain types of people that trade very aggressively to try and get rich. This has led to this significantly sized group of people in a particular country, weaponised by online crypto and share platforms, borrowing to buy overleveraged positions on crypto and tech stocks - particularly TSLA and NVDA. While it's arguably difficult to put a price on crypto currencies, it's relatively much easier to work out what stocks are really worth at a point in time. The difficulty facing the market I think is that TSLA has a supernormally optimistic p/e but is facing a massive backlash from institutional stockholders, its own customers and the public. This is reflected in the falling stock price. As a result, a lot of crypto investors are being forced to liquidate their positions to address margin calls on their stock positions or just failing out. There's definitely a lot of money going over the event horizon, but there's still some optimism/blind hope/whatever which is why the stock prices are falling down stairs instead of off a cliff. For now. However, as the stock falls, p/e rations also fall and even a strong p/e on the s&p500 gives TSLA a target price of about $60. This would be a systemic issue for US stocks and financial institutions. Also, sadly, with the prospect of an ongoing and likely expanding war in Europe, and the US deciding to sit this one out, military-related Euro stocks are climbing sharply (possible creating another bubble, at the expense of the aforementioned stocks). Trump's involvement is also degrading cryptos because in the market's eyes as it's clearly an open attempt at price manipulation by a small group that has now seized control of a bottomless money pot so even people that aren't being forced to sell are heading for the exits. Most serious investors have always viewed crypto with grave suspicion and this latest move just validates those concerns. Bottom line; if it is a crash I'd expect the downward momentum to accelerate into next week. If you can afford to get out then you should seriously think about that. Unfortunately, if the verdict is that we really are in a bubble then it's bigger than anything in modern history so there's probably not much you can do anyway.
Have you used the platform? As someone who thought all of this as well, I did a little bit more research and have used the platform to buy NVDA and Apple stock as a test.. It works and they're doing cool things.. It's probably one of the few projects out there with real world use case... I think this cycle will be governed by stock tokenisation plays like WHITE and ONDO since this is the cycle of institutional money
Exactly what I done, NVDA at 112. Good moves all round.
I was beginning to kick myself for panic selling at 35% profit but now i feel quite smug about it. Just sold my xrp for a 250% profit this morning and bought into NVDA at $110 so hoping that’s going to be a safer bet going forward.
The bottom can fall out of markets priced in a deflating asset... BTC on the other hand... has a buy below that will prevent it from ever reaching basement prices. For example, if for some reason we saw BTC somehow reach $10k... I would buy 10 coins... I'd sell everything I owned to do so. Am I going to do that to buy NVDA or SPY if I see it fall 90%... nope.
This is what drives me crazy. Technically analysis has been showing us this is the direction the market has been heading for days after days now. Then, this morning S&P open alongside NVDA, COIN, and MSTR simply indicated the gun was going to be leaded today to retrace and test 85k support levels. Once this $89,600.00 breaks it’s again, another level of easy money. This bull trap stuff, is it copioum? I dunno, but it seems to be.
I am not his base so not sure if thats what you're looking for. But if you’re hoping for some grand plan, I think you might be disappointed. Markets don’t like uncertainty, and right now, Trump’s policies, especially the tariffs, are creating a lot of it. Crypto is very often at the forefront of the market, and it tends to react more violently to unfavorable news than tech stocks for example, that are already notorious for their turbulent reactions. So, the current situation is the consequence, of uncertainty and a crypto market that was already crabbing for a long while, not just crypto by the way. Check a 6 month NVDA chart and you'll see they are in the red at the moment (6 months is long for tech stocks or crypto). TSLA is bleeding red for example as well.
What an asinine assumption. No, apples and oranges. Trump coin has fallen 75%. NVDA has fallen 14% in the past 5 days. Your attempt at an insult is just a jab at yourself.
AI tokens are as related to NVDA and AI hardware in the same degree that Chuck-e-Cheese Tokens are.
Thanks NVDA for giving the market permission to keep this bubble going a while longer.
Everyone ready for NVDA earnings after-hours??? 😍
NGL, motley fool told me to invest in NVDA in 2018
Which tariff do you think boosted NVDA's earnings the most?
Today the stock market is also going to rip, then NVDA gonna beat earnings. Throw in a mineral deal and maybe an EO about crypto. This is the day🚀
Vibes-based investing. That often goes well. Don't feel. *Think*... BTC has no fundamentals or cash flows, so it's ALL catalyst based. There are no positive catalysts coming from the president any time soon. Meanwhile, global liquidity - a key driver of crypto risk appetite - is rapidly draining. As global liquidity and risk appetite goes down, crypto is the FIRST asset class to get trimmed for safety. All of Trump's policy flailing has created high demand for safety. If NVDA comes out with even the gentlest of soft forward guidance tomorrow, have a bottle of something ready.
If you did buy NVDA shares instead of BTC you'd have spent 112k shares in 2017 and 3k shares in 2025 to buy that house, so a much better investment compared to the 24:4 of BTC The point is, bitcoin should be praised for its characteristics, not for its speculation
Sorry /u/Smiling_Jack_, we couldn't process the withdraw request for NVDA.
It all hinges on NVDA's earnings report and guidance.
It's nice that Solana is trying to expand beyond the rugcoin casino, but for context TSLA and NVDA stocks are already tokenized on Ethereum (through 'Backed Finance'), Polygon (through 'Swarm'), Arbitrum and Base (both through 'Dinari'). I agree completely with this statement though: > I think that in 2025, Real World Assets (RWA) is the sector with the greatest growth potential in crypto. As well as Blackrock (the biggest asset manager in the world) who have tokenized hundreds of millions of dollars worth of US treasuries, Visa (the biggest card payment company in the world) and UBS (the biggest private bank in the world) are also deploying tokenization projects, with plenty of other financial institutions also involved. > **Visa** Tokenized Asset Platform (VTAP) is a new product that helps banks issue fiat-backed tokens. BBVA will use VTAP to create tokens on the public Ethereum blockchain https://investor.visa.com/news/news-details/2024/Visa-Introduces-the-Visa-Tokenized-Asset-Platform/default.aspx > UBS USD Money Market Investment Fund Token” (“uMINT”), a Money Market investment built on Ethereum https://www.ubs.com/global/tc/media/display-page-ndp/en-20241101-first-tokenized-investment-fund.html > **Deutsche Bank** has announced that it is building a layer-2 (L2) blockchain on Ethereum. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-18/deutsche-bank-tries-to-tackle-compliance-hurdles-for-public-blockchains Both [UBS's multiple RWA initiatives](https://www.tradingview.com/news/u_today:4c8d6b2d7094b:0-largest-swiss-bank-ubs-tests-its-product-on-ethereum-s-l2-zksync/) and [Deutsche Bank's L2](https://www.db.com/news/detail/20240514-deutsche-bank-joins-project-guardian-to-explore-asset-tokenization-applications?language_id=1) are part of a much larger program called '[Project Guardian](https://cointelegraph.com/learn/articles/project-guardian-explained)', led by the [Monetary Authority of Singapore](https://www.mas.gov.sg/publications/monographs-or-information-paper/2024/guardian-funds-framework) and with a huge number of financial entities participating, ranging from from [asset managers](https://gftn.co/sff-2024-videos-payments/project-guardian-tokenized-investment-vehicles-for-asset-and-wealth-management), market operators, custodians, credit rating agencies like [Moody](https://ir.moodys.com/press-releases/news-details/2024/Moodys-Announces-Participation-in-Project-Guardian-to-Explore-Asset-Tokenization/default.aspx), commercial and [central](https://www.bundesbank.de/en/press/press-releases/bundesbank-joins-project-guardian-943616) banks and even regulators like the [UK's Financial Conduct Authority](https://www.fca.org.uk/news/statements/fca-joins-forces-global-regulators-foster-digital-innovation-project-guardian). So yea, for those paying attention it is clear that RWAs are going to be the next step of mainstream adoption, as the traditional financial world slowly migrates onchain.
De-risking leading up to NVDA earnings. Haven't seen that before..
I'm mainly in ETH, so I'm holding regardless - unless it somehow pushes beyond 3000 then I'm cutting ties for a bit. I will be DCAing out of some my crypto adjacent shares this week. I think NVDA earnings and Wall St will either expedite the fall down or push upwards.
Take everything Reddit gives you with a giant grain of salt. Since you’ve said you’re looking to hold for a decade - anything below the top 10 maybe top 20 has a 95%, maybe higher, chance of not making it. There’s so many coins. Last cycle a big play was crypto gaming, that had a ton of promise - most of those projects are dead now. Look up axie infinity’s chart. Enjin coin. Decentraland & mana. Chain games. Some of those had big players involved with them, Atari and Snoop invested in decentraland if I remember correctly. I could keep going - point being, you could say even if there is speculation on utility, that utility can change. It’s all an educated guess. Same reason I bought NVDA years ago, I saw a use case, video games were huge, e sports was under valued - boom. Additionally, could mana, enjin, chain pop off again and totally prove me wrong? Absolutely. Picking a ‘successful’ coin - while it’s ‘low cap’ - under valued and going to be around in 5-10 years, that you won’t check till then? Good luck my friend. I’d put money into two of the top 10-20 coins that you believe in. For me it’s SOL, ADA, LTC, DOGE - all for different reasons. I don’t plan on leaving them unattended and have exit strategies for all of them. You don’t pick active investments and then be passive with them.
Take everything Reddit gives you with a giant grain of salt. Since you’ve said you’re looking to hold for a decade - anything below the top 10 maybe top 20 has a 95%, maybe higher, chance of not making it. There’s so many coins. Last cycle a big play was crypto gaming, that had a ton of promise - most of those projects are dead now. Look up axie infinity’s chart. Enjin coin. Decentraland & mana. Chain games. Some of those had big players involved with them, Atari and Snoop invested in decentraland if I remember correctly. I could keep going - point being, you could say even if there is speculation on utility, that utility can change. It’s all an educated guess. Same reason I bought NVDA years ago, I saw a use case, video games were huge, e sports was under valued - boom. Additionally, could mana, enjin, chain pop off again and totally prove me wrong? Absolutely. Picking a ‘successful’ coin - while it’s ‘low cap’ - under valued and going to be around in 5-10 years, that you won’t check till then? Good luck my friend. I’d put money into two of the top 10-20 coins that you believe in. For me it’s SOL, ADA, LTC, DOGE - all for different reasons. I don’t plan on leaving them unattended and have exit strategies for all of them. You don’t pick active investments and then be passive with them.
Quantum scam stocks did 1000s % in 6 weeks last year. You could have also bought NVDA, META, Palantir or whatever Pelosi buys and made significantly more than by hoping your VC coin, dino coin or meme pops. You didn't even have to use your brain, just overweight megacaps and that's all. As long as you can outpace debasement (you need to make more than 10% a year) then you're golden and in better financial conditions than 99% of the world. There is no reason to be in shitcoins. Tradfi trades like altcoins used to - now you have massive volatility and gains (thanks to retail gamblers) and all the protection in the world (with FDIC insurance on top so you can trade with size). If you're smart, you can even use options to leverage it up (of course, you should use them primarily for hedging), but I doubt the average shitcoin enjoyer has the brain capacity to pull this off. Heck, you could just buy BTC calls after every liquidation cascade during this bull because that's +EV play and outperform massively. Let's be honest, crypto degens aren't traders. They may draw some lines (TA works, but they trade what they wanna see, not the chart in front of them) but mainly they just buy cheap shit (cheap as in having low price, not being undervalued) and hope it goes up eventually because that's what happened in the past. There's no entry setup, no trigger, no exit plan and no invalidation. Only hopium, copium and high leverage.
Whales largely are not using high levels of margin. That is what degen gambler morons do. However if they do liquidations of one will have zero impact on liquidations of others. Stock market margin is effectively a 2x multipler even if someone was stupid enough to be 100% NVDA and 100% margined it would have to fall about 40% to face liquidation. The number of ultra rich doing something that stupid is a rounding error of a rounding error.
The past weeks BTC, XRP, NVDA, OKLO, sold AMD. PLTR looks good TSLA, Apple ETH. Still a lot on the table out there if you have the resources. China isn't stupid, they will play ball with Trump.
I know this isn't r/investing, but we bought PLTR in 2023 at $8. Sold some at $80 after it fell back to $64 and bounced back up. A week ago Monday, I was freaked out from all the tariff talk and liquidated EVERYTHING. At 11:00 AM, the news was, "haha just kidding" and the market rebounded. Worse yet, PLTR announced their earnings and shot to $104 that night so we left a shitload on the table because I took our administration seriously. More recently we bought NVDA on the dip - I feel better about that hold. Crypto? Sitting on some SOL and CRO. Will check the prices again in about five years.
The OP is saying that you shouldn't chase alts because they underperformed against BTC. The fault with that logic is that then I could say you shouldn't chase BTC because NVDA outperformed it. We didn't know that this would happen at the time. Stocks and crypto have different risk profiles and centralization is one for stocks. But crypto has a ton of other inherent risks that stocks don't carry. It seems to be forgotten, but before the ETF and institutions being allowed to start buying BTC, it wasn't this much of a safe asset. Markets change all the time but we are talking specifically about 2022. It's a bit illogical to fear centralization that much. There are Nvidia competitors who have been making bad decision for a long while now, they never went bankrupt. Their stocks are more or less stable in pricing. I'll give you a crazier example, all it would take is one person with access to nukes to wipe out humanity. That didn't happen in a century, although maybe thousand separate individuals had the chance at some point. Decentralization removes the risk of central decision making. But how much was that risk in the first place? How much did shady exchanges add to bitcoin's risk over time? If you can quantify these then we can compare. But I am arguing the latter alone would be much larger.
Exactly. As we go we’ll need Bitcoin more and more. We won’t need more of $NVDA.
Anyone can make an $NVDA and look what happened with DeepSeek. All it takes is one competitor and the entire company tanks. Bitcoin will never tank now.
We're specifically talking about the price movement here as per OP's example. The point is that Nvidia has been the leading innovator already. Nobody knows about the future but as given in the example, the risk of investing in NVDA in 2022 would be lower than that of BTC. Forget about regulation and institutional stability at that point, even just considering the standard deviation of returns as a volatility metric you could see that. Again, I'm not talking about today or tomorrow, in the OP's example, BTC was less risky than ALTs, I'm simply pointing out that if he wanted to buy something less risky he could have bought NVDA then. There was no bitcoin ETF or hype at the time.
Likewise for 10$ investment in NVDA.
A competitor came out against NVDA for ai and it shit the bed... Double standards I guess There is zero guarantee NVDA will be the leading ai innovator
A crisis event big enough to end bitcoin is big enough to end every single economy on earth, btc is not any more risky than NVDA
If you put your money in NVDA in 2022 you would've had 11x until now. Bitcoin is miles riskier than NVDA, so hindsight 20/20.
This photo is working with a lot of companies... $NVDA, $AMZN and co
Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a 51% attack. Calls on NVDA
NVDA isn’t volatile enough for me to trade it. That’s a buy and hold. Crypto mining obviously had a huge impact on their stock rising, but at the same time, they are the best GPU makers out there. We are not going to ever think we need less GPU tech. We will always think we need more. I like ETFs that are in the $20-$50 range and are volatile as fuck. The more volatile, the more pronounced the chart patterns are, and the easier they are for me to make a stop-loss and gain limit strategies for. I am in love with IONQ right now-quantum computing. It is the future, their trend lines are going the right direction almost no matter what time scale you use. It is volatile enough for me throwing $25k of buying power at it in and out for swing trades that are usually 1 week or less before I bank them. I made $10,062 on that one alone in December with 8 trades of $25k buying power, no leverage, and never changed my buying power after each gain. I don’t do that. That’s how people fuck up. You have to re-evaluate your finances quarterly and annually to assess what you can afford to lose overall and then piece it out to diversify what you are willing to lose in certain aspects of your portfolio. In other words, if I made $3k on a trade using $25k of buying power, that doesn’t mean that I now have $28k that I can afford to lose. The math seems like it would work that way but it doesn’t. That’s is especially the case for me because I do this among lots of other investing as a living so that I don’t have to work anymore. Once my passive income superseded my expenses, I was done doing shit I hate all day. Making money make money for me is not work to me. I love it and I can do whatever I want allllll theeee timmeeee.
Glad I sold all my ETH no regrets. Bought NVDA & PLTR stock instead. Done much better.
That would be like every single stock in the stock market only appreciating when APPL (I guess now NVDA) goes up and every single stock tanking when APPL goes into a downturn. And every stock investor waits for APPL to go on a huge run and that money draws investors into their stock.
I've heard multiple people say this but still don't fully understand. Is this metric based on btc price starting at 0 vs stocks starting at IPO? Since I believe NVDA still outperformed BTC in the past 5 or 10 years.
The whole point of crypto is to be resilient to the stock market. Where is the money going? Cuz it sure as hell ain’t going into NVDA and SPY. The only safe haven is bonds I guess? USD might ok for a while, but the tariffs are going to hurt the US dollar too.
The majority of crypto traders are a mix of financial retards and degenerate gamblers. They’ve somehow rolled over into the stock market with the same strategies and get absolutely hammered in both markets. It’s incredible to witness. I had a close friend lose 700k on cardano after holding it and adding to his position for 5+ years to wake up to ZERO. I told him to buy a house. Nope. Then I suggested he take 100k and buy NVDA and RTX in 2020. Nope. Some people don’t deserve to have money.
Non of you have an absolute idea of what the fuck is going to happen in February and March. This hyper-cycle will truly be historical, NVDA losing 600 Billion, biggest drop ever on WS, the market shrugged it off like a usual red day.
30%, maybe a little higher since my big NVDA holding took a nosedive. I was at 2% the moment Blackrock backed it, since then I have been increasing it.
retail-investing is traumatized right now, ICE raids all over the country have people holding their wallets, data on retail performance in january is a bloodbath, this is all verifiable right now with a google result and not speculation. Trump & team just did a 3-day hitpiece on NVDA, likely for their puts; deepseek / chips tarriffs / chip sale regulation to china shit's going further down
Crypto made me numb to volatility. For example I sold $142 NVDA puts expiring 2/28/25. Monday I went from 80% up to 80% down. I just smiled and laughed a little and went on with my day.
Funny that RENDER was just for rendering. I bought because I thought it might be a way to skirt sanctions for China AI. Didn’t realize NVDA was just going to sell China chips anyway.
Cramer very often just talks about stuff that creates hype. NVDA is in hype so he will talk about buying that, he is basically just the embodiment of retail.
“I don’t even know how to respond to this.” Then you probably shouldn’t have… You’re argument for the first point is dumb because she didn’t make “a bet.” She’s essentially DCA’d into the NVDA over the last four years. If loading shares bi-monthly for half a decade is timing the market to you then I’m super curious what not trying to time the market is… For the second point I just see a ton of words that didn’t answer my question in the slightest so I’m not even going to waste my time.
1. “Timing doesn’t matter for her trades” I don’t even know how to respond to this. Timing is absolutely everything. Why do you think she made her multimillion dollar bet on NVDA when she did, and not yesterday, or a month or two ago? Timing is everything. If you do not think timing matters when trading securities than you are living in delusion. 2. Not even going to check that link. Are you saying that she couldn’t have been using insider information on a “mega-cap tech/growth” company? Insider information is applicable to EVERY company. Size, market cap does not matter in the slightest. Easy to manipulate this problem when you remove what she trades! Unfortunately, you can’t build a strong argument if your point is to exclude instances that prove your point wrong ;)
1) Timing doesn’t matter for her trades. Her average trade is a call ITM by already 50%-60% and 99% of them are Apple, NVDA, or MSFT. If the stock goes up she can sell calls and collect the premium and if the stock goes down she’s always so far ITM that the don’t expire worthless and she can hold the underlying asset until she beats the premium she paid. If you have the capital to buy multiple calls that deep it’s literally the smartest play on in the Market. You just need the capital. 2) Name one single company she purchased before a major positive move that isn’t a maga-cap tech/growth company that 99% of the market isn’t already in. I’ll make it easy for you: https://unusualwhales.com/politics/profile/Nancy%20Pelosi
Nothing novel? You think she isn’t privy to private information. The once speaker of the house, with an ex hedge fund husband? Look at her trades beyond the surface level. Look at the when. Sure there are specific examples like NVDA, but she’s bought so many smaller companies before big contracts are released or new products unveiled. She is actually snatching up companies before the public receives the information. Not sure if you’re willfully ignorant to support your political views or just lack the critical thinking to see this?