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Trying to settle a debate

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How Crypto CEXs can increase transparency

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OGgoat fire launch! unlimited potential. Community driven with the potential to uprise and become a true memes token!

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Is Ledger as safe as we think? Is there any 100% safe way to hold crypto?

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ABC news Australia. Finance report mentions Bitcoin

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ABC news Australia. Finance report mentions Bitcoin

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'I wasn't even trying to do risk management,' Sam Bankman-Fried tells ABC

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Can blockchain technology survive the crypto crisis? | The Business | ABC News

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Live withdrawal numbers for CEXs?

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Bitcoin rocked by collapse of FTX exchange | The Business | ABC News

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Anthony messaged with 'Michelle' every day for months. He was being drained of his savings in an elaborate 'pig butchering' scam - ABC News

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With the recent post stating how many people don't understand cryptocurrency, I figured I'd post this to help some newer folks out.

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ETH Fractal Suggests a 30 year Bear Market in Dow Jones Industrial

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The Merge - Should holders have ETH in their own local wallets vs. exchange during the merge?

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AquaTank.io — Marine-Pet NFTs and its Life time reward utility on BSC - 3X Hit - cmc listed - CG/BitMart coming - $162/Day reward - Double Audit

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Voyager Digital has either unknown or stolen assets that need to be accounted for in the bankruptcy proceedings

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$Aqua Subscription Sale - HC 375 BNB - 10% Discount - Double audit - Subscription sales hot on Pinksale - 4 Hours Left.

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$Aqua Subscription Sale - HC 375 BNB - 10% Discount - Double audit - Subscription sales hot on Pinksale

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help me with long term storage

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“Gas prices likely kept US inflation painfully high in May,” ABC news attempting to see how gullible the American public is

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Question about capital gains in puerto rico

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DogeBank Launched 1 Minutes | $DBG DogeBank generates NFT randomly, and users who pledge will receive NFT prizes randomly

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DogeBank Launched 1 Minutes | $DBG The first meme token class aggregator on the BSC chain | In the DogeBank ecosystem, you can upgrade DogeBank with other tokens.

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DogeBank Launched 1 Minutes | $DBG In the DogeBank ecosystem, you can upgrade DogeBank with other tokens, and the higher the level, the more replacement times

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DogeBank Launched 1 Minutes | $DBG The first meme token class aggregator on the BSC chain | DogeBank aggregates Babydoge, DOge, Floki and Shib together to produce five linkage effects Five meme tokens can be freely circulated

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Bitcoin Era Making People Rich And you can Become The Next Millionaire...

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540% profit in a bear market! How?

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BTC Pro Elliot Wave Analysis- Target 1000$ or 500$ Per BTC

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Table of the top 20 banks in the world and Crypto/Blockchain results. Looks at the big picture here.

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Safezone LLC | 150k MC | BSC Chain | Registered Business | KYC’d & Doxxed Dev | Incredible Utilities | P2E Game | Moonshot Inbound

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ABC_league • r/ABC_league

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ABC_league • r/ABC_league

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"Cryptomania" Four Corners, ABC Australia

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Important Links to News Coverage of 3-Day El Salvador CB Conference

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"AshXCoin" Launched today! Low MC. Fair launch Looking for a real moonshot for a x100? The right #gem is here for you. Join us wish Junior Musk a Happy Birthday as 4th of May is his special day. Best meme/utility of 2022 with many utilities coming up

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FIFA blockchain deal is first new US WCup sponsor since 2011 - ABC News

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I just bought a laptop for 100 the guy told me he reset it, he didn’t, and his password manager was on and signed in. He has a bitcoinmarketcap.com account worth 150000

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ShibaShia | Just Stealth Launched | 5% Busd Rewards | Gem x100 Today | | Ownership Renounced | Liquidity Locked | Get in Here Fast |

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Wannabe-'Satoshi' Craig Wright has suffered a defeat at court, after accusing the devs of Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin ABC and - yes, seriously - BSV itself!

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Wannabe-'Satoshi' Craig Wright has suffered a defeat at court, after accusing the devs of Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin ABC and - yes, seriously - BSV itself!

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Highest & Fastest Auto-stake/compound protocol in Defi. Fixed APY of 404,192.65%, compounding Every 3 seconds. At the vanguard of DeFi, GameFi and Social Finance. $Web3 Launching Tomorrow !

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$Web3 Launching March 22!. Highest & Fastest Auto-stake/compound protocol in Defi. Fixed APY of 404,192.65%, compounding Every 3 seconds. At the vanguard of DeFi, GameFi and Social Finance.

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$Web3 Launching March 22!. At the vanguard of DeFi, GameFi and Social Finance. Highest & Fastest Auto-stake/compound protocol in Defi. Fixed APY of 404,192.65%, compounding Every 3 seconds

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Launching March 22! Highest & Fastest Auto-stake/compound protocol in Defi. Fixed APY of 404,192.65%, compounding Every 3 seconds. An investment of 1000$ WEB3 gives 4,041,926.65$ WEB3 in just 12 months!

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What is Cult Dao? Let's talk about $CULT

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Launching March 22! Highest & Fastest Auto-stake/compound protocol in Defi. Fixed APY of 404,192.65%, compounding Every 3 seconds. An investment of 1000$ WEB3 gives 4,041,926.65$ WEB3 in just 12 months!

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What is CULT DAO? Lets talk about $CULT

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Oliver Inu | $Oliver - BSCGEM Launched a little over 12 hours ago on the binance smart chain Network. Kyc + Audit pending. Doxxed Developing Team. Same marketing manager from Volt Inu. Prior marketing. Devs last project did a 40x and his last ETH project hit a ATH of 10m MC.

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ABC News: "Charities struggle to deliver humanitarian aid into Ukraine". From the article: "Cryptocurrencies donations themselves have emerged as a leading form of aid."

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ABC News: "Charities struggle to deliver humanitarian aid into Ukraine". From the article: "Cryptocurrencies donations themselves have emerged as a leading form of aid." (They elaborate on this, but the word "Bitcoin" is suspiciously absent from the article, as it has been from many lately.)

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Abc Inu | Launching In Few Minutes |Ownership renounced | Low Mc | LP will be Locked! Huge Marketing Incoming! BSC Gem| 100x Potential |

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Abc Inu | stealth launch any minute |Ownership renounced | Low Mc | LP will be Locked! Huge Marketing Incoming! BSC Gem| 100x Potential |

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None of the pretty TA lines matter for your project.

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Indonesian Muslim cryptocurrency enthusiasts find a way around Islamic fatwa - ABC News

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Cryptocurrency can make goods cheaper and stop the transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. "Line go up" got this one wrong.

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MiniX is a PolyX & Polygon Matic 2-Tier Rewards Token that also doubles as the Governance Token of Minicaps.io; the Anti-Scam DEFI Listing Platform for Low Market Cap | A True Gamechanger as Featured on FOX News

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Tinfoil hat theory: Putin may have intentionally created a false threat of war to drive the price of crypto down.

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Cult DAO Review – Building Towards a Decentralized Future

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The fact that Polygon raised $450M to support Web3 innovation is insane and proves that we’re on the right path to mass adoption

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Low risk way to increase your holdings without injecting FIAT

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN!

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An odd request

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ELI5 Crypto Taxes: Simple 5 Transactions, 3 fiscal years

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marketing” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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How to invest in crypto in 2022 & never loose? 1: Spot Trading.

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Alphabitum $ABC - Latin for Alphabets - Following a unique Business Model - 26 Letters for 26 Levels - Your x1000 real and logical investment

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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Alphabitum $ABC - Latin for Alphabets - 26 Letters for 26 Levels - Your x1000 real and logical investment

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Alphabitum $ABC - Latin for Alphabets - 26 Letters for 26 Levels - Your x1000 real and logical investment

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We should be proud of this sub instead of ridiculing it

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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Alphabitum $ABC - Latin for Alphabets - 26 Letters for 26 Levels - Stealth Launching *Anytime within 10 days*

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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Alphabitum $ABC - Latin for Alphabets - 26 Letters for 26 Levels - Stealth Launching *Anytime within 10 days*

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Alphabitum $ABC - Stealth Launching SOON - no more “ser wen marekting” - First investment banking project on Binance Smart Chain! - LP BURN! 🔥

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ABC Pattern or 123 chart pattern Scalping indicator strategy

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Solve the riddles. Find the treasure.

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Solve the riddle. Find the treasure.

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Finally a Nobel token is out which is trying to put mining for the right purpose.Missed early bitcoin mining don't miss this next big thing

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Steel Man your opposition to learn something

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ABC Leverage Trading Strategy - Just Got Better!

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ABC Leverage Trading Strategy - Just Got Better!

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🐕Cheems Martian Token | Fair Launched|💎Simply hold Cheems Martians and receive 10% dividends from every transaction in $BNB Token automatically in your wallet! | | Auto staking rewards | 🌒 Voice chat before launch | Amazing Team💪| Don't Miss This Gem 💎 |Massive Marketing Campaign incoming

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🐕Cheems Martian Token | Fair Launched|💎Simply hold Cheems Martians and receive 10% dividends from every transaction in $BNB Token automatically in your wallet! | | Auto staking rewards | 🌒 Voice chat before launch | Amazing Team💪| Don't Miss This Gem 💎 |Massive Marketing Campaign incoming

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Erdogan says Turkish crypto law is ready

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Turkey President Erdogan to Send Crypto Law to Parliament: Report

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Welcome to RXCGames - Casino made from scratch only for cryptocurrencies✅

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🧠 $ABC - Alpha Brain Capital | Decentralized Fund | Listed on CMC & CG | Web 3 dashboard launching today | Partnerships with VCs and CEX listings on roadmap

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According to this news article by Australia's ABC, we're all "cool looking hipsters living the dream". https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-13/cryptocurrencies-on-a-knife-edge-bitcoin-decline/100694872

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I compared all cryptos from its ICO to today and sorted it by the highest gains, so you don't have to

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There is ZERO manipulation. Many don’t understand the basics of BTC’s fixed distribution, or the ABC’s of why adoption is the one and only thing that matters.

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There is ZERO manipulation. Many don’t understand the basics of BTC’s fixed distribution, or the ABC’s of why adoption is the one and only thing that matters.

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BTC Cheat Sheet? Since May crash.

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Being emotional in crypto, it's a trap?

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Cryptocurrency exchange MyCryptoWallet collapses, appoints liquidators - ABC News

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What the fuck is Bitcoin Cash ABC?

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What affect if any do you think this court ruling will have on bitcoin price going forward

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The Year is 75 ABC: Anno Blockchain

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No kidding ! Hey don’t touch account #000000 at ABC bank

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Thank you. r/bitcoin is freaking the fuck out, and i'm over here remembering this point of contention from the Blockstream/ABC wars, ultimately resulting in the BTC/BCH split.

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We re in the _do not talk about crypto with friends and family_. As soon as one unpopular gets to hot, others LL follow. ABC moonfarm

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You might want to checkout hadeswap and ask ABC holders their reviews staking here, and they are currently trending as not just one of the best staking platform but has also made it easy for users to Swap, earn and build on their platform which is currently the most leading decentralized trading protocol & its token just got listed on Mexc

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ABC Corp and 123 LLC

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Imagine you get to choose between getting a company with 6 billion annual gross revenue, that comes with a multitude of parks, intellectual property for generations, employs 200 thousand people, has a content division, a streaming service, and it’s not just for kids, they also own ABC, ESPN, FX Networks… and you say no, I don’t want that, I prefer these pile of electronic tokens, they don’t produce anything or add anything to the world, I also don’t care if the people on the other end of this transaction are trustworthy but *I believe*. What the actual fuck.

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Why don’t you check other staking platforms out? I’m currently using Hadeswap to stake my NFTs, through their staking page, you can now stake your ABC NFTs. Got to know about Hadeswap from Mexc global due to the upcoming listing of the hadeswap native token HADES on their platform.

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There's a great, very in-depth podcast by ABC News called The Dropout. It's really long but I found it interesting!

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That's too bumbly in its pronunciation. You start saying: "CBDC" and end up continuing with "... LMNOP QR S TUV W X Y and Z, now I know my ABC's next time won't you sing with me?" Also "SeaBee DeeSee" makes you sound like an idiot when you say it aloud. People will wonder if you've had a stroke. It's like Dana Carvey's joke on pronouncing "The Judicial System" just a string of letters and sounds that don't mesh well together.

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I think it would be a good idea to direct all exchange questions to bitcoin beginners. "Is ABC a good exchange?" "What is the best exchange in my country?"

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Sorry to break the very bad news to you, but in actual fact, contrary to your belief, exchanges are more like uninsured banks than they are like a Schwab account. When you buy a share in ABC through your Schwab account, you are registered with ABC as the beneficial owner, and Schwab is the custodian of the certificates. If Schwab goes bankrupt, ABC still recognizes you as the owner of the security. BECAUSE TITLE IS ACTUALLY REGISTERED AS YOURS. With a crypto exchange, TITLE IS REGISTERED WITH THE EXCHANGE. Not your keys, not your TITLE. Instead what you have is a CONTRACTUAL agreement with the crypto exchange, that they will transfer title to you on demand. This is exactly the same legal relationship you have with a bank. If you and I and others have dollars in the bank and the bank does something, and as a result doesn't have enough dollars in its vault to pay us all, it goes bankrupt, and then you and I have to argue who doesn't get what. After enough of that, and the ensuing chaos (which we have reinvented perfectly in crypto), regulators jumped in and depository insurance was mandated. So you are right: CRYPTO EXCHANGES ARE NOT LIKE BANKS. Despite having the same legal structure, they are (a) unregulated, and (b) uninsured. TL;DR - You are right... Binance is not comparable to Chase. It's more like Deutsch Bank would have been in the '80s, if not for regulation.

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https://abc13.com/bank-of-america-glitch-issues-today-missing-money/12716035/ "CHICAGO -- Some Bank of America customers said money is missing from their accounts, including funds from Zelle deposits and transactions. A Bank of America spokesman told ABC7 San Francisco that the problem has been resolved and the deposits and transfers are starting to appear in customers' accounts." Fuck that! 💸 Money go bye bye!

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100 abc = $100 ABC up to $2 100 abc = $200 Minus 50 abc ($100) You now have $100 plus 50 abc worth $100. If abc goes to $3, you’d have $100 plus $150 in abc = $250. If you held, you’d have 100 abc x $3 = $300.

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I get paid and I DCA. No thought, no emotion, no FOMO. So far, I’ll boding up my stash ABC waiting for it to pay off

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Bitcoin investment schemes In bitcoin investment schemes, scammers contact investors claiming to be seasoned "investment managers." As part of the scheme, the so-called investment managers claim to have made millions investing in cryptocurrency and promise their victims that they will make money with investments. To get started, the scammers request an upfront fee. Then, instead of making money, the thieves simply steal the upfront fees. The scammers may also request personal identification information, claiming it's for transferring or depositing funds, and thus gain access to a person's cryptocurrency. Another type of investment scam involves using fake celebrity endorsements. Scammers take real photos and impose them on fake accounts, ads or articles to make it appear as though the celebrity is promoting a large financial gain from the investment. The sources for these claims appear to be legitimate, using reputable company names such as ABC or CBS with a professional-looking website and logos. However, the endorsement is fake.

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It's not "linked", because a link could be arbitrary. Seed "ABC" could be linked to addresses "kjlmn" or addresses "uvwxyz". That's not the case. The seed always *produces* the same keys/addresses.

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i mean the easiest way to combat this from say a programmers perspective. is to just add 1 more "are you sure Send XYZ to ABC" would lock in the receiving address and the amount of tokens. you can then review the address again to make sure you're not sending to a poisoned one etc.

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Perhaps you can have two separate multisigs that function as one multisig like you want. Where you have 3 keys, ABC. Multisig 1 = B+C (1 of 2) This generates an output that can be used for: Multisig 2 = A+[output from M1] (2 of 2) This essentially makes the output of multisig 2 require A, and one of either B or C

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>BitConnect was a fraudulent cryptocurrency investment platform launched in 2016 that the DOJ said reached a peak market capitalization of $3.4 billion >The market rank of Binance Coin is 4 based on a market capitalization of 45,771,002,498 €. Yes, because to compare a 3.4 bn Cap with a 45.7 one (not even including the USDT volume which is in the bilions aswell) is absolutely normal ... it's like saying that ABC shop failed, so obviously Walmart will also follow ... very poor comparison. Still didn't change my mind that the US is the breeding place of the greatest schemes in the history of Finance (Madoff just landed on Netflix. You should watch it) , and Binance is stealing the crypto show :)) . I mean the rebuttals i get here are laughable.

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>BitConnect was a fraudulent cryptocurrency investment platform launched in 2016 that the DOJ said reached a peak market capitalization of $3.4 billion >The market rank of Binance Coin is 4 based on a market capitalization of 45,771,002,498 €. Yes, because to compare a 3.4 bn Cap with a 45.7 one (not even including the USDT volume which is in the bilions aswell) is absolutely normal ... it's like saying that ABC shop failed, so obviously Walmart will also follow ... very poor comparison. Still didn't change my mind that the US is the breeding place of the greatest schemes in the history of Finance (Madoff just landed on Netflix. You should watch it) , and Binance is stealing the crypto show :)) . I mean the rebuttals i get here are laughable.

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I think you're looking at it only one way. There's several ways to look at it. Here's just one quick scenario I'll paint. Disney decides that it wants to mint NFTs of its IP. Those NFTs are usable among various blockchains where game developers can design certain in-game character traits for each NFT. This feature is already being developed BTW, just not by Disney. Disney goes to Developer: * ABC using ETH and creates an agreement... * In exchange for using some of our Star Wars and Marvel NFTs to be used in your game, you will get massive promotion from our marketing team across various platforms. We will also see receive some royalties from each game sold. You make money off of the Disney brand and promotion. We make money for our corporate balance sheet. * DEF using Matic/Polygon and creates a similar agreement. * GHI using Solana and creates a similar agreement. Disney then turns around and tells its fanbase, "anyone who owns an NFT from our extensive IP catalogue will be whitelisted and receive certain perks which will include: * discounts on various Disney merchandise * discounts on visitor passes to Disney World(Land) * the chance to enter a random drawing to appear in a future Disney movie * plus other perks revolving around the Disney brand This becomes attractive to consumers (esp with families) because of the discounts/perks. If/when they no longer have use for the NFTs or discounts, then they could turn around and sell those NFTs in the open market. Depending on demand, they could make some money back. I gave this example because it's similar to what is currently being developed in the web3 space. I believe regulation is why many companies are taking their time with research on blockchain tech.

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>There is a pledora of other stories, covered in several Youtube or Netflix documentaries (like his time in Belize). Oh man you left out, arguably, some of the most interesting stories here. >McAfee's life in Belize became an epic tale late last year after his neighbor, an American citizen named Gregory Faull, was murdered. Police wanted to question McAfee about it. Instead, McAfee fled in James-Bond-like style: His escapade involved hiding in the jungle with one of his girlfriends, faking his own capture, faking a heart attack, all while blogging about it and taking along a journalist and camera crew, too. >In between, the details of his life in Belize leaked out which were equally bizarre. He lived with a "harem" of young women, from nine to a dozen, some of which he said were presented to him as 16-year-old prostitutes. There was also speculation that he used an odd drug called MDPV. >He eventually landed in Guatemala and was extradited to the United States. He lives in Oregon and was never charged with anything in connection with Faull's death. *(article from 2013)* Other fun stuff: >He kicked off two social media initiatives called PowWow and Tribal Voice, but neither hit the mainstream. >He divorced his second wife, Judy, in 2002. >He also bought 157 acres in New Mexico and founded a flight club called "Sky Gypsies," according to a 2007 report from The Wall Street Journal. >McAfee bought an oceanfront estate in Belize to kickstart a project devoted to curing a kind of bacteria, per BBC. The operation began to fall apart after the microbiologist he teamed up with quit. >Then, in April 2012, the Belize police raided the research lab over suspected methamphetamine production. McAfee claimed it was because the government was corrupt — he declined to make a $2 million political donation two weeks prior, he told the BBC in 2013. More on the murder of his American neighbor in Belize, George Faull: >Living next to McAfee in Belize was an American named George Faull. He was found dead by gunshot in late 2012. McAfee later acknowledged to the BBC that the two may not have always gotten along. >McAfee was a person of interest in Faull's death, and when Belize authorities came to question him, he fled, claiming that the government intended to silence him. >"I thought maybe they were coming for me. They mistook him for me. They got the wrong house," McAfee told Wired. "He's dead. They killed him. It spooked me out." >ABC News soon after reported that, a month before his death, Faull filed a complaint against McAfee. It accused him of failing to contain his "8-12 vicious dogs" that were allegedly attacking residents and tourists, that his security guards walked around the compound with guns at night, and that there was an incessant coming and goings of traffic to McAfee's property. >Two of McAfee's dogs were fed a poisoned tortilla the day before Faull died, per BBC.

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Have You Seen This Man. Had to look it up. It was an ABC News podcast that got adapted into a doc. It's about John Ruffo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ruffo

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Is it Bitcoin Cash ABC, Bitcoin Cash Node, or Bitcoin Cash SV?

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He does the thing of talking up assets he invested in on the ground floor that we won't buy today, even though they're on floor 7. It's a subtle thing, but the average person needs to be aware of that. When someone says something like "ABC looks [insert positive comments for 5 minutes]" - they are talking up their portfolio while NOT buying today, but subtly encouraging YOU to buy today. I've seen this over and over in crypto. It's done all the time.

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#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest Archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/zykwb7/daily_general_discussion_december_30_2022_gmt0/).

Damn ... ABC ... always be closing 🤣 ... it was worth a shot

Mentions:#ABC

Are you kidding me dude? Are we going to act like there isn’t a giant divide filled with propaganda between Sky Australia and ABC News Australia?

Mentions:#ABC

Wow… this was going through my head and wanted to post on reddit to know some opinions… The thought was planted in my brain when I saw a YouTube video during last bull run (dont remember the name, he’s from uk but visits Iran). He was talking elliot wave theory and that last bull run was the last phase of major “12345” wave and we’d see a major ABC wave next which means peak of next bull run will be lower than the current. Back then, I thought it was bull shit. Because we were going to 100k for SURE. Everyone on internet says so… so it should happen right? And also same people were like we will never see 20K because btc never goes below previous ATH. But here we are barely holding at 17K. My conclusion is what everyone expects to happen will never happen and vice versa. If you ask here, almost everyone will say next bull run is coming after next halving and will for SURE cross 100K.. well, will it? My time frame is 10Y. So, I’m hopeful btc will reach ATH during this.

Mentions:#ABC#SURE

Going by Elliot wave theory Bitcoin has already double topped and is ABC’ing down to $3k. Retail will probably look for higher gains elsewhere, on BTC cloned coins like Litecoin and Dogecoin that SEC can’t regulate as securities. Pretty confident Litecoin will pop off in 2025 bull run

Mentions:#ABC#BTC

The US has extradition treaties with Brazil and the Netherlands, which owns the ABC islands. Cuba is the only one of those whose current government won't extradite to the US.

Mentions:#ABC

Are you referring to ABC vs SV or when BCH tried to flip BTC

On ABC World News Tonight they introduced it as “and our next story about that young man who ran the failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX”. It’s so weird to hear it in outside contexts where it’s so whitewashed compared to talking about it with everyone affected

Mentions:#ABC#FTX

Just watched it reported on ABC News.

Mentions:#ABC
r/BitcoinSee Comment

Investing basics ABC

Mentions:#ABC

All I can say is I'm doubling down on ABC and 123. 1 fish, 2 fish, red fish, blue fish. In fact all my future investments in crypto will be based on Dr. Seuss books.

Mentions:#ABC

I politely disagree with you. 1. Blockchain being public is the ABC of Crypto, people that get pitched with the idea of investing in Crypto already know all about it. 2. Monero won't blow up and there's a very good reason it - it's a payment token and that's about it. Nobody is bag holding Monero, XLM or Nano.

Mentions:#ABC#XLM

Did anyone else watch ABC news piece on the FTX Crash? It was like this guy was *fried* during the interview. You could've made a drinking game out of it.

Mentions:#ABC#FTX
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You just felt like saying that. None of that is true. Did you watch the ABC interview with Stephanopoulis?

Mentions:#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

And the failure of TSA has been ongoing since 2017, here's ABC reporting on that. https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188

Mentions:#TSA#ABC
r/CryptoMarketsSee Comment

Petition to ban posts with articles like "some person predicts bitcoin will go to XYX by ABC"

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r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Petition to ban posts with articles like "some person predicts bitcoin will go to XYX by ABC"

Mentions:#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

I figured this was coming. Basically everyone who offers something like this got sued by the SEC or bent the knee and said *rick people only*. BlockFi, Coinbase Earn. When SEC didn't get hit, some were like, "they must be doing something right then." I assumed, "SEC is going in ABC order".

Mentions:#ABC
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So I took a look at a [Twitter post by Autism Capital](https://twitter.com/autismcapital/status/1599466158893432832?s=46&t=_j4CI8wL4oYjAgQ1Zk1BbA), and she was at a coffee shop that is a short walk from both FBI and US Attorney Generals Offices. Also an interview of SBF aired on ABC and they stated that they couldn’t get a reply from Caroline, which leads me to believe she isn’t able to talk to the press due to the potential fact that she’s cooperating with US authorities to try and prosecute SBF and others involved. Consider the fact that law enforcement themselves have to aren’t able to disclose certain details during an active investigation, I’d assume this applies to witnesses.

Mentions:#CI#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

What does CC mean? And yea, I agree with you that u/Beyonderr is a little bit slow in the head. It’s like Biden tweeting “nukes on ABC” and then sending hundreds of nukes over to ABC country, and then claiming something is wrong with ABC country because it’s destroyed by a single Tweet.

Mentions:#CC#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

BCH has nothing to do with BSV anymore, thankfully he was ejected and all his loons followed. I'm thankful to ABC for getting rid of him, even though they later forked themselves off because they wanted a dev tax. Problem for BCH was that in '17 it was a mixed bunch of anti-core folks, it took a few more forks to distill it into a community aligned around "we want p2p cash system" vision.

Mentions:#BCH#BSV#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Can we talk about his ABC interview and how he cannot make eye contact whatsoever? And looks down every time he answers a question. This was so uncomfortable to watch and pretty damning to me.

Mentions:#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Youbmight be right. But Fox news is just like CNN and MSNBC or ABC that have not recieved money from SBF. So in this case it is advantageous to pay attention to it.

Mentions:#CNN#ABC
r/BitcoinSee Comment

That’s actually pretty cool. To see bitcoin listed alongside the major currencies is new. For those who don’t know ABC is Australia’s national broadcaster this is not a niche news site.

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r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Unreal that ABC runs an interview with Fried…until you look up who owns ABC. Disney, who is predominately owned by a bunch of major brokerages - Vanguard, Fidelity, etc. Wow, what a shocker…

Mentions:#ABC
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#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z9k3aj/monthly_optimists_discussion_december_2022/).

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💯 that ABC interview should be ashamed of themselves. WSJ and MSNBC all laying it out he was a saint and that shark tank idiot as well blabbering how smart the guy is, like that means he shouldn’t pay for his fraud

Mentions:#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

He’s donated to all the right people. ABC just did a fluf interview with him now and other media outlets as well trying to make it out was just innocent mistakes and he’s brilliant, etc

Mentions:#ABC
r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z8aq27/daily_general_discussion_november_30_2022_gmt0/).

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z8aq27/daily_general_discussion_november_30_2022_gmt0/).

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z7d8jz/daily_general_discussion_november_29_2022_gmt0/).

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I have an idea for a crypto exchange and a coin that goes with it. Would it be possible to sell coins as ownership of the exchange? Say that I open ABC crypto company and have 1 million/billion (or however many) ABC coins that total 100% ownership of the company. The owner keeps 51% of the coins and controls the company. They could sell 49% of the coins as ownership in the company. The value of the coins would be tied to the value of the company. The company could distribute profits on a quarterly or annual basis to the holders of the coin. I realize there are legalities and there would probably be an issue with the coins owning the company so possibly just tie them to the profits of the company. It seems like a great way to raise startup capital, reward investors and allow them to receive income as the company does well. I know it probably sounds crazy, but seems like that idea could work. What do you think?

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If I sold you 100 shares of ABC Corp at $100 per share, you would pay me $10,000 in cash. If I sent you a statement quarterly that updated the price, you might think after a few months you would have $12,500 available. Well, sorry, I never bought that stock for you, I spent the money on hookers and blow. Tough luck. Well, not really that tough, because if I was an actual licensed trader you would be insured by SIPC and get your money back. AFAIK there are no regulations on Crypto exchanges unless they perform transactions that would normally be done by a licensed broker.

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ABC dark money got theirs?

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ABC. Swap out luna for FTT and u have what happened to FTX in a very (overly) simplified way.

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A simple example of how they go bankrupt is: ABC offers 5% returns to customers who stake their 1 bitcoin. ABC uses the 1 bitcoin they receive from customers and buys 10luna tokens with it(assuming that was the price of luna). Luna promised 20% returns for staking the luna. People realised luna tokens are basically worthless. Market price of luna tanks to 0. ABC has 10 luna worth 0 but owes customer 1 bitcoin worth,say 20k. ABC is basically insolvent as the customer wants to take their bitcoin out after hearing of ABC’s exposure to luna.

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So I guess you pick and chose what you see is acceptable or not from a “team perspective” and not a morality perspective. If republicans OR democrats accepted money it’s no Bruno for me. But apparently since dems accepting 40m while republicans accepted 20m [source](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/summary?toprecipcycle=2022&contribcycle=2022&lobcycle=2022&outspendcycle=2022&id=D000073694&topnumcycle=2022) then I guess republicans are only half as bad as democrats then? You make zero sense to me. It’s simple, you write bills and accept money from people you write the bills to regulate then you are a captured org. Red, blue, purple idc. Simple as that. I don’t need mental gymnastics to make me feel better about my “team” because when it comes to this I don’t accept a single dollar as OK. > The top MSM ARE dems other than Fox?? It’s not even deniable wtf? CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC are the big MSM networks. Fucking 3 of them are clearly left leaning I agree with you that majority of MSM is left leaning. But don’t act like breitbart, OAN, and newsmax don’t exist. Bottom line: I don’t care if it’s liberals soft balling SBF or republicans completely omitting that they too received political donations from FTX. It shouldn’t happen period. Don’t give a fuck what “team” you are on.

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What’s bullshit? SBF got democrats millions of dollars and the media is too towing around obvious fraud. That’s the narrative, that’s who he hangs out with. Clinton, Gensler, his fucking mother. The top MSM ARE dems other than Fox?? It’s not even deniable wtf? CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC are the big MSM networks. Fucking 3 of them are clearly left leaning.

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Withdrawing and spending/trading are not the same. It's the equivalent of leaving your wallet full of cash over at your "friends" house for a month because your rent isn't due yet. Then the first of the month you ask for your wallet back and your friend has skipped town. Who do you trust more, ABC exchange, or yourself personally? These places are not backed by anything and you have no guarantee or recourse if they go tits-up tomorrow. And many many more of these exchanges will go down as people withdraw their BTC, because the exchange can no longer shuffle money and assets around, they must pay up. You're basically giving them an interest-free loan with no insurance.

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Who’s Bernie Madoff? Fuck Bernie Madoff and ABC.

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#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ywdu9s/daily_general_discussion_november_16_2022_gmt0/).

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#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/yuj5a2/daily_general_discussion_november_14_2022_gmt0/).

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FTX was generating about $10M/day in pure revenues and found themselves in an $8B hole. It's greed. Likely it starts out small. Seeing you have $5M of outflows per day with $10M of inflows, you take $100M (10%) of user funds to lend out for 14 days, then later return $101M and nobody is any wiser. They started printing their own token, FTT, and using that as collateral through *their own firm* to be able to withdraw dollars, which they used to buy crypto like SOL or FTT, plus invest in 300+ startups. This gave them the ability to *indirectly* use user funds to invest with, up to any amount of leverage they wanted (they could pump the price of FTT then use that to take out larger loans). Which turned into a scheme where they're taking like $500M of (indirect) user funds out for 50 days expecting no one to notice. It was in that *moment* CZ (Binance) pointed it out, people took notice, and FTX's outflows began to exceed inflows - so everything they were using as *collateral* (FTT, SOL, FTX) imploded all at once. *As soon as* the price of FTT fell so did all their leveraged loans. It's similiar to what happened to Luna/UST (essentially a ponzi scheme that collapsed). FTX and SBF were seed investors in *so many promising things* that will never come to light now, because their firm will be forced to absolutely *crash* everything they touched in bankruptcy court. I don't think an individual has ever caused so much harm to this ecosystem before. They *could have* been happy with $10M/day, but oh no they'd miss out on investing in XY's seed round and ABC's startup and only be able to invest in 150 things instead of all 300 of them. They even had the Canadian pension plan investing in FTT/FTX plus all of DC in their pocket. If they just, didn't fuck it up, SBF could've become one of the richest and most influencal people in modern history. To be unhappy with the pace he was getting there is pure mental illness.

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>Most people are in this camp. Why would you assume there are more ignorants than idiots in the world? :) Seeing how very ABC-ish knowledge it is I am willing to risk a reverse assumption, that these people knew they shouldn't do it, but they did it anyway because it was convenient. Also, I am in the camp that believes that it isn't much safer to hold your keys on your own unless you really invest in it: buy hardware wallet, split your secret using Shamir, distribute shares to your family, explain what to do in case you are in trouble or dead, deal with inheritance etc. Without all this I would almost feel safer keeping it with Coinbase.

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This goes deeper than we thought. SBF is actually in cooperation with the FBI, CIA, NSA, SEC, DOD, DHS, KGB, GPU, CPU, BTC, THC, NBA, YNB, PNB, PBJ, BEC, TNT, ABC, XYZ, and even the BBW

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#Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by Blendzi0r which won 1st place in the Bitcoin Cash Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > # What is Bitcoin Cash (BCH)? > > Bitcoin Cash is a [hard fork](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp) of Bitcoin. It was launched in 2017. [It has 32MB blocks instead of Bitcoin’s 1MB](https://www.coindesk.com/learn/2015/08/21/what-is-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate-and-why-does-it-matter/), so it can handle many more transactions per second (TPS). And that’s the main difference between BTC and BCH, as its goal was to tackle [Bitcoin’s scalability problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_scalability_problem) without the second layer solutions. > > # What are the cons of BCH? > > **IT’S CENTRALIZED** > > BCH “inherited” BTC’s supply distribution from July 2017 when it was launched but the supply held by large addresses [has become more concentrated over time](https://coinmetrics.substack.com/p/coin-metrics-state-of-the-network-2d3) (while BTC is even more decentralized today). > > In 2019, [just two mining pools were able to perform a 51% attack](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2019/05/24/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack/). And although it was done for a good cause – to stop an unknown miner from exploiting a bug – it can serve as a prove that BCH was centralized already back then. > > ​ > > **THE NARRATIVE IS ON BITCOIN’S SIDE** > > The value of Bitcoin has gone up more than 2,000% since July 2017 while BCH has stayed below its price from July 2017 most of the time, not to mention its [ATH price of $4,355](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/) (it's 86% down from ATH as of 31.10.2021). > > Also liquidity and real-world usability of Bitcoin Cash [is nowhere near that of Bitcoin](https://www.investopedia.com/tech/bitcoin-vs-bitcoin-cash-whats-difference/#citation-4). It is clear that the great majority of investors chose Bitcoin after the 2017 hard fork and BCH is seen as an inferior copy. > > ​ > > **IT HAD ITS OWN HARD FORKS** > > People cringe at Internet Computer’s name, but for me, Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) takes the cake. It’s a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash that took place in late 2018. It has even larger blocks than BCH – [2GB](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-record-2-gigabyte-block-130000498.html). > > In 2020, there was another hard fork that produced two new chains- Bitcoin Cash ABC and Bitcoin Node. This shows that Bitcoin Cash has failed not only against Bitcoin, but had splits among its own community, further hurting its credibility. > > ​ > > **IT'S SCALABILITY COMES AT A COST** > > Bigger blocks have certain [disadvantages](https://www.sfox.com/blog/is-bigger-better-how-to-evaluate-bitcoin-cash-based-on-block-size/). Running nodes when the blocks are big requires more resources. Also, the commissions from transaction fees are lower, which makes mining the coin less appealing. This might result in nodes being manageable only by big, private companies, making BCH even more centralized. > > ​ > > **ITS MAIN ADVANTAGE ISN’T UTILIZED…** > > Although BCH’s blocks can handle up to 32MB of data, [they have not reached even 2MB since they were introduced in 2018](https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-btc-bch.html#3y). What's more, their average size is currently much lower than that of Bitcoin’s blocks. > > Taking into consideration the point above about the disadvantages of bigger blocks, it makes you wonder why BCH would push for such big blocks when most of the time they don't even use 3% of their capacity. > > ​ > > **… AND EVEN IF IT WAS, THERE'S LIGHTNING NETWORK** > > [SegWit](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/segwit-segregated-witness.asp) allows second layer solutions to be implemented on Bitcoin. One of those solutions is Lightning Network which has become very popular recently after being [adopted by El Salvador](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador) and [Twitter](https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/118450/twitter-rolls-out-bitcoin-tipping-for-ios-users-via-lightning-looks-to-nfts-for-the-future). > > Lightning Network effectively eliminates the main advantage of Bitcoin Cash by allowing faster and cheaper transactions with bitcoins. Even if BCH fully utilized its 32MB blocks, it wouldn't be able to compete with Lightening Network. > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > **SUMMARY** > > Bitcoin Cash is a much worse store of value than Bitcoin and now it is also losing the electronic cash narrative, since the growing adoption of [Lightning Network](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) makes Bitcoin a much cheaper and faster payment option. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ovmtsi/rcc_cointest_coin_inquiries_bitcoin_cash/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Bitcoin_Cash) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/yqzprc/daily_general_discussion_november_10_2022_gmt0/).

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>Have the fundamentals of Bitcoin and major coins taken a u-turn? Has anything changed for the worse about the technology of Bitcoin and major coins? Has adoption gone down in this bear market compared to the last bear market? Are there fewer use cases for crypto? Are institutional investors and large corporations not using crypto anymore? If you answered mostly no to all the above, you would be mostly correct. Nice questions, I would answer (NO) only for the first 2 questions.. but the rest of these questions are highly in doubt at this moment. adoption is gone bad when leading platforms for the crypto don't know the ABC of decentralization. FTX is gone and now everyone knows how they missed using their coin FTT, while Binance CEO says decentralization is gradient and I doubt he is aiming for making anything really decentralized. The worst part is the users who don't use their own wallets and keys, and keep their coins in the platform all the time I mean this is literally a crypto-centralized banks.. Things will crush when everyone is asking for their money at once just like the banks.. all the bank don't keep this amount of liquidity and depend in the Central Bank for support at these extreme situations but crypto doesn't have any governmental support it goes against the whole idea. **bottom line neither leading platforms nor users are ready for decentralization adoption yet.** and about institutional investors and large corporations still using crypto... Obviously, the will not walkway while losing tons of money we don't how these folk are evaluating the industry right now. they might be looking for a fair exit for their money, and till then they will stick around and manipulate the Public. We will never know!

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>Have the fundamentals of Bitcoin and major coins taken a u-turn? Has anything changed for the worse about the technology of Bitcoin and major coins? Has adoption gone down in this bear market compared to the last bear market? Are there fewer use cases for crypto? Are institutional investors and large corporations not using crypto anymore? If you answered mostly no to all the above, you would be mostly correct. Nice questions, I would answer (NO) only for the first 2 questions.. but the rest of these questions are highly in doubt at this moment. adoption is gone bad when leading platforms for the crypto don't know the ABC of decentralization. FTX is gone and now everyone knows how they missed using their coin FTT, while Binance CEO says decentralization is gradient and I doubt he is aiming for making anything really decentralized. The worst part is the users who don't use their own wallets and keys, and keep their coins in the platform all the time I mean this is literally a crypto-centralized banks.. Things will crush when everyone is asking for their money at once just like the banks.. all the bank don't keep this amount of liquidity and depend in the Central Bank for support at these extreme situations but crypto doesn't have any governmental support it goes against the whole idea. **bottom line neither leading platforms nor users are ready for decentralization adoption yet.** and about institutional investors and large corporations still using crypto... Obviously, the will not walkway while losing tons of money we don't how these folk are evaluating the industry right now. they might be looking for a fair exit for their money, and till then they will stick around and manipulate the Public. We will never know!

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ABC living up to his peoples stereotype

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We should do a Collab remix and put a shirt on TikTok so it goes viral like ABC’s or some shit.

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