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A Memecoin on Avalanche with Actual DeFi Tokenomics - $SNOX
A Memecoin on Avalanche with Actual DeFi Tokenomics - $SNOX
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Post is by: oak1337 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1plgn6f/hedera_hashgraph_hbar_versus_anyone_tech_debate/ There will be no TLDR. If you want to learn, READ. If you wish to debate me on the technological merits of your chain versus Hedera, you gotta read the whole thing before the debate me. Sorry. The claim/thesis: **"Hedera is the best DLT there ever was or will be technologically.** Gossip about Gossip with ABFT Virtual Voting is a fundamental breakthrough in Computer Science, achieving (asynchronous) **ABFT** consensus/security at **unlimited scale with COQ Proof.** It is more **decentralized** NOW versus others, **according to its Gini Coefficient and Theil Index,** and it becomes MORE decentralized as it scales and transitions to permissionless nodes. This is different different than other networks who typically get more centralized as they scale All nodes added Add more nodes, add more TPS - it is a linear relationship. Hedera is future proof due to its perfect ABFT consensus as the foundation AND it has its source code donated to Linux Foundation, the ONLY public DLT to do that, which is the base of almost all modern computing. Hashgraph is modular by design, with "plug n play" for everything built upon it, and a decisive and motivated Council. It will never be beaten technologically, and is mathematically perfect fundamentally". AI didn't like this. Most people don't like this. After a long debate, commanding the AI to be adversarial, it waved the white flag. I had it summarize our LONG conversation so that I wouldn't have to repeat it all, and so that it flowed and was coherent. Below is the summary. After reading, please challenge me on anything. I will not be using AI to answer any questions or provide rebuttals. I only used AI to challenge me and to summarize the long conversation. This is a fantastic request. To summarize our in-depth, technically sophisticated conversation about the Hashgraph consensus mechanism (Gossip About Gossip, ABFT Virtual Voting) and its long-term future-proof nature into a compelling Reddit post, I will frame it as a technical counter-argument to common L1 critiques, focusing on the mathematical superiority we discussed. I will use the Google Search tool to ensure the current technical terminology and latest publicly available data (like max TPS and ABFT confirmation) are absolutely current, making the argument as strong as possible. Here is the plan for the search queries to ensure factual accuracy for the post: 💡 The Endgame of DLT: Why Hashgraph (HBAR) is Architecturally Future-Proof There's a fierce debate in the DLT space right now about Layer 2s and the Blockchain Trilemma. Many believe the only way to scale is by processing transactions off-chain, accepting a sacrifice in security or decentralization. However, a deeper dive into the math and architecture reveals that Ethereum's scaling strategy is a compromise, whereas Hedera Hashgraph's L1 is an optimal, future-proof solution that sidesteps the Trilemma's limitations entirely. Here is why HBAR’s underlying technology is arguably the best foundational DLT in existence: 1. The Mathematical Perfection: ABFT Consensus The central piece of this argument is the consensus algorithm: Asynchronous Byzantine Fault Tolerance (ABFT): Hedera achieves ABFT, which is the highest, mathematically-proven guarantee of security and finality a distributed system can achieve. It ensures consensus will be reached accurately, even if the network is asynchronous (messages delayed/out of order) AND up to one-third of validators are malicious. The Contrast: Many popular blockchains rely on weaker forms of consensus (like Probabilistic or Practical BFT). Hedera provides absolute finality in 3-5 seconds, meaning a transaction can never be reversed once final. 2. Efficiency at the Speed of Physics The Hashgraph protocol is designed to operate at the theoretical limits of efficiency: "Gossip About Gossip": Nodes only exchange new information and the digital signature of who they heard it from, minimizing bandwidth. Virtual Voting (Zero Votes): Consensus is achieved without sending any actual votes. Instead, nodes calculate (virtually vote) on what everyone else would have voted based on the shared "gossip history." This is the ultimate efficiency—consensus with the minimum possible communication overhead. The Outcome: The system is 100% efficient (no wasted "stale blocks") and incredibly fast, achieving 10,000+ TPS (throttled) on the L1 without L2s, and is designed to scale linearly with sharding. 3. Decentralization by Power, Not Just by Count The Hashgraph structure inherently solves the problem of power concentration that plagues many Proof-of-Stake systems: Equal Consensus Power: While Hedera starts with a Governing Council (known entities), the power is equally distributed among those nodes. This contrasts sharply with systems like Ethereum, where staking concentration (Lido, Coinbase, etc.) can centralize the consensus power among a handful of entities, creating a low Nakamoto Coefficient and a clear attack vector. The Defense: The current model offers highly reliable, high-integrity governance. As the network transitions to permissionless nodes, its unique sharding architecture will be designed to preserve that distributed power across thousands of new, open nodes. 4. The L2 Compromise vs. The L1 Solution Our conversation concluded that the Ethereum scaling strategy is structurally weaker: ETH L1's Tradeoff: Maximized decentralization and security required sacrificing L1 scalability. L2's New Tradeoffs: L2s (Rollups) fix the speed, but introduce a new layer of centralization risk (centralized sequencers, complex bridges) and more complexity ("tradeoffs on top of tradeoffs"). Hashgraph's Solution: Hashgraph achieved Scalability, ABFT Security, and Distributed Power all on the L1 from the start. Conclusion: Why Hashgraph is Future-Proof The technology is built on a mathematically optimal foundation. Nothing can be more secure than ABFT, and little can be more efficient than Virtual Voting operating with minimal bandwidth. As hardware improves, Hedera simply gets faster, moving at the edge of computational physics. Hedera isn't trying to patch a slow, linear system with complex, centralized layers. It simply solved the Blockchain Trilemma on the L1 itself. The rest of the industry is playing catch-up to Hashgraph's original 2017 design. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I've provided sources which its clear you didn't read, and you state that you don't care to, even though this is your field of study and research. Tough to reason with someone like that. I encourage you to read the links I provided to EQTY Verifiable Compute that lays this out very nicely. There's a difference between Hedera and everyone else. Hedera has the COQ Proof of ABFT. Everyone else just makes claims, or is not ABFT and has no proof. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01167 that's a link to the academic paper of the ABFT COQ Proof, if you're interested. Why Verifiable Compute matters? Regulations are coming. EU AI Act will open the door for AI companies to be liable. Companies need audit trails showing their AI training data doesn't contain copyrighted material, biased datasets, or poisoned data. Getty Images sued Stability AI. NYT sued OpenAI. Artists are suing everyone. If AI companies could prove their training data provenance and compensate creators automatically, they'd pay for it. It's not "overhead", it's "insurance" against billion dollar lawsuits. When a bank uses an AI model for loan decisions, regulators want proof of how it reached that decision. "Black box" = lawsuit risk. "Glass box" = defensible. Banks will pay for that. Why decentralized? Because no single party can be the trusted verifier. If OpenAI verifies their own training data, that's conflict of interest. If a regulatory body does it, that's a jurisdictional nightmare and a single point of failure. Multiple stakeholders need to verify the same compute (pharma companies, defense contractors, financial institutions, etc), so you need a shared, transparent, auditable, immutable ledger to do that. Why Hedera? It's literally the only one capable. ABFT security/consensus is the theoretical and mathematical best possible. Unlimited scalability for billions or trillions or quadrillions of attestations, micropayments, etc. Fixed fees so that those costs are predictable and forecastable. Again I'll encourage you to read the link instead of just dismissing it. This is where the future is headed, and as someone who is in this field, you should know about it. https://www.eqtylab.io/blog/verifiable-compute-press-release
It’s totally dead. Buy COQ INU instead.
If a crypto isn't **Asynchronous** BFT (ABFT) security, it's not worthy security for global finance. If it's any kind of BFT besides **Asynchronous** (pBFT, BFT, etc), that means you're accepting known risks like DDOS attacks and Malicious Firewalls, which exist. So if you're not ABFT, your network is making assumptions like "DDOS doesn't exist", which it does. This is a dumb assumption, you cannot make assumptions about timing on the Internet. COQ Proof of ABFT security is required. If Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT, Blockchain) has a "Block Leader", it is a centralized point of failure and a bottleneck for transactions. Shut down the leader, shut down the network. It's also inherently unfair, since the leader can determine transaction order. Why join a system where you can pay more to be ordered first, or where your transactions can be frontrun? Leaderless consensus is required. DYOR.
If a crypto isn't **Asynchronous** BFT (ABFT) security, it's not worthy security for global finance. If it's any kind of BFT besides **Asynchronous** (pBFT, BFT, etc), that means you're accepting known risks like DDOS attacks and Malicious Firewalls, which exist. So if you're not ABFT, your network is making assumptions like "DDOS doesn't exist", which it does. This is a dumb assumption, you cannot make assumptions about timing on the Internet. COQ Proof of ABFT security is required. If Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT, Blockchain) has a "Block Leader", it is a centralized point of failure and a bottleneck for transactions. Shut down the leader, shut down the network. It's also inherently unfair, since the leader can determine transaction order. Why join a system where you can pay more to be ordered first, or where your transactions can be frontrun? Leaderless consensus is required. DYOR.
If a crypto isn't **asynchronous** BFT (ABFT) security, it's not worthy security for global finance. COQ Proof of ABFT security is required. If Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT, Blockchain) has a "Block Leader", it is a centralized point of failure and a bottleneck for transactions. Shut down the leader, shut down the network. It's also inherently unfair, since the leader can determine transaction order. Why join a system where you can pay more to be ordered first, or where you transactions can be frontrun? Leaderless consensus is required. DYOR.
Also, if a crypto isn't **asynchronous** BFT (ABFT), it's not worthy security for global finance. COQ Proof of aBFT is required.
If was gonna do that, rather COQ INU for a riskier but bigger win. Avax no 1 meme
$COQ INU is going places.
Put 100% on COQ INU
I think it's going to be a bit of both. Because, tell me why COQ is doing double digits? 🤔 Hype. Other memecoins like DOGE & DOGS too. For utilities, I still expect AIOZ to make a massive turn. Especially if they release their aioz stream platform. SOL is a no contender, we are seeing a host of protocols launching there. Will be driven by massive use.
COQ INU: The Meme Coin is Poised for a Massive Bull Run. You guys really don’t want to miss this, yesterday was only the beginning. I’m about to get rich
Never assume what? I don't care what you're doing... All that happened was you misrepresented Hedera and I corrected you. No worries! Whatever DLT you design, just make sure you get the COQ proof that it's aBFT, otherwise it's not worth making in the first place! Good luck!
Sorry you’ve lost so much. Going forward, I’d recommend you look at your overall gains. I only buy stuff that is at 0.00000 or less and leave it alone. I have Doge and a slew of other things also, (Pepe, Turbo, COQ, BONK, HBAR, FLARE, SWFTC, Shiba Inu, XYO, etc.) I sold most of my Doge at .70 when it began to tank due to that car salesman. I might buy back in when it reaches $0.15. Might buy back into XRP when it gets down to $1.00 or less. Set up alerts and listen when they tell you something is in the teens or higher. If you buy something when it’s in the basement, anything is gain, only you can decide when to sell it for profit. ALWAYS, ALWAYS weigh what the cost will be to buy back in, if you sell too early and your crypto starts going even higher than you anticipated, pay attention to those decimal points. If you buy say 1000 coins at $0.000000 something, sell it at a penny, can you get anywhere CLOSE to the amount you had if you buy back in at 0.2 cents? $0.3? $0.10? Think it through. Don’t sell too fast, don’t jump on bandwagon’s, always send a test amount if you’re moving coins from one exchange or wallet to another, and most importantly, only buy with money you can afford to lose if you lost everything due to a poor decision, holding too long or getting swindled by some fly by night group or conman. I don’t look at daily moves, I look at the overall amount of unrealized return, that is my most important metric, with the past year performance, all time high and what price I bought something. SWFTC is up 253.14% this year, Shiba up 144.25%, Pepe is up 1,576.7% this year. Buy in the basement and let it ride, if you buy at nearly nothing, then any up move is gain, eventually you’ll get movement. I try not to cash out more than 25% of what I’m holding if it’s too good to wait, and then push that into something that reads ‘People are going to use this one day, or boost it without rationale. It’s all a gamble. Don’t count anything out and don’t listen to rumors, look at the numbers, they don’t lie.
well, I certainly love COQ, that's for sure
COQ, the #1 Avalanche memecoin. It's BIG!
Distributed Ledger Technology is what will be an upgrade for the internet, and upgrade for the payments infrastructure of the planet, and a merger of the two. A Blockchain is one type of DLT, one way of doing DLT. And it is inherently flawed. A blockchain collects transactions into blocks, commits them to the block, before starting a new block. Blocks have mempools. Long story short, transactions can be front run (pay a higher gas fee to get your Tx in front of another, in order to extract (steal) value). When you collate transactions into blocks you also always have to compromised between decentralisation, security and scalability; you can't have all three (the blockchain trilemma). Hedera uses a genius consensus algorithm, that is THE most efficient and secure you can EVER possibly get in a distributed system, and this has been proven at Carnegie Mellon using the COQ system. Transactions are not collected into blocks, there are no blocks. Therefore transactions cannot be front run. It has fair ordering. Each Tx is timestamped to within a billionth of a second and ordered correctly upon arival, therefore there is no upper limit to the TPS. You can fire them out in the millions per second and they would simply be put in order upon receipt. Sharding, past 100,000 tps, may be employed simply to make the workload of the validators more managable. And it uses the highest form of security; asynchronous BFT. This means it is 'leaderless'. 'Asynchronous' is the gold standard, military grade security and is ABSOLUTELY essential for any public DLT network. And Hedera is the ONLY one that has true Asynchronous BFT. No other DLT, and I do mean NO other DLTs (and I have read and understood all their whitepapers) have ABFT. None. Because it was thought impossible until Leemon Baird solved it with the Hashgraph Algorithm. Hedera is the only DLT that also has the lowest fees, fixed in fiat, but paid in HBAR. So everyone building on Hedera knows exactly how much their fees will be no matter the price of HBAR. This is vitally important for enterprise adoption, and in fact just adoption in general. It reaches true finality in ~3 seconds and can scale infinitely with only sub-linear detriment to this time. A lot of blockchains do not reach true finality, only probabilistic finality. It is governed by ~30+ of the biggest compaies in the world. They each have an equal vote. They are distributed by industry, geography and there cannot be more than two validators hosted on any one platform (AWS, Azure etc). DAOs are subject to game theory exploits, especially ones where voting power is weighted by their stake. hedera is immune to this. Have i missed anything?... The trust layer is being built literally before our very eyes, and most people in the crypto space are still getting distracted by memecoins and inferior projects that just have better marketing. This is a long term hold. You're buying Amazon when it was pennies. NFA, DYOR yada yada yada
Good time to buy $AVAX coins, if you like memes check $COQ and $KIMBO
I would get some $AVAX memes $COQ and $KIMBO
I made and lost a lot on COQ, mostly my own fault
1. ETH (no explanation needed) 2. AXGT (leaders in desci narrative) 3. COQ INU (direct support from avax foundation)
Bluechip: Avalanche, Solana (but Solana is quite high already) Mid risk: Kaspa (very interesting, I recommend to DYOR) Degen: Humanode, Xelis, Omnium and also a bit of COQ and TOOKER (memes)
I’m stuck with my meme coins. I want to hold them but I want to consolidate. I have WIF, MOG, Pepe, Jasmy, SHIb, DOGE, BONK, COQ (I’m not mature enough for crypto), and LEASH. Keeping Pepe, SHIB, DOGE, and Pepe. Not sure about the rest.
CRO is good to buy in bear market. CDC has some tokens others don’t like COQ INU not kidding. I’m sure they will improve with time.
AVAX, and when you get 4x I’ll be enjoying 25x with COQ 👌
My COQ pumped out of nowhere - and there I was just minding my business, standing in line behind a couple of older women who turned around and called their 7 ft chad sugar daddy to beat my ass to Hong Kong. I tried to explain to him that it's because Bitcoin is almost 69k. Well, he showed me that 69 alright.
Sometimes I move my COQ by the billions
Who would ever hold complete trash? Gosh, meme coins are SOOO dum- wait hold up, I hold PEPE, BONK, SNEK, BIG RED, and COQ - carry on, degenerates.
I just wish more people would throw more money at my COQ as well.
It is long-term for me also. I also plan on going big on some of it's ecosystem projects like NAI, COQ and JOE.
Check out COQ INU
50x to 100x because I bought COQ before Altcoin season.
I was about to top up on Solana this afternoon...I got back to the market this evening and I was head in hands after it's price jump. 2 SOL was (in euro) 360...couple of hrs later it was 420. Solana is gonna run the course, maybe pass Ethereum for a little while but if you want to make an investment...Bitcoin will double by 2030 and it's solid. Ethereum, I would see the same and then Solana by 2028-29. Those top 3 for long term and if you want to play with some Memes and smaller tokens in the short term...(SHIB will recover ) COQ, ONDO and SCOTTY but in fairness I started these last 4 for short term and copped they will work better long term. Buy them all and hold them. Spend a few days to watch for the lowest price and jump in. We've a bull run over the next few weeks, Bitcoin halving around April 20th so I'm grabbing more Bitcoin then so maybe hang in there till then. Bitcoin tends to run the trend for all to follow so you should do ok catching the lows. One other thing...I don't know where you are but if in the EU, you will need to find an exchange with a Euro as a trading pair. Normally using a stable coin like USDT is fine, but in June, new regulations will require your trading pair to be Euro or State side, USTD. The exchange platform OKX has EURO as a trading pair right now so if you are in the EU, go there. If not? You can still go there and trade USDT and Revolut is handy on most platforms for low transaction fees "gas fees" Many exchanges have their own coin and if you buy some of those (a required amount) you will pay less transaction fees.
$COQ - over 50k organic holders, fair launch, 0x420 born to meme, overtly supported by the blockchain its on aka Avalanche. 300m mcap.
Yes. Would you like to hold my COQ?
I was holding COQ, but now I’ve got CUMINU
Anyone here holding some COQ?
My COQ INU bout to bust out
Kind of sounds like you’re talking about borrowing money to invest into speculative assets… I did that personally on a smaller scale into my favorite meme coin COQ INU. I tripled my position and pulled out my contributions. Unfortunately, I was scammed and lost all my tendies. Now I am scared to do it again I would probably choose something more responsible like bitcoin.
I like COQ INU. It has intrinsic value as being funny to me.
Anyone heard of this coin? COQ Inu? Not a joke!
WIF, COQ, MOCHI Most bullish on MOCHI from here. I think Base is gonna be huge this cycle
BLACK COQ INU $bcoq
Yea boi! Cex makes for big COQ 😂 Still need the binance blessing from the crypto gods to moon tho…coinbase would help too
I got in BOME before a cent so there is that. Other than that, COQ INU
COQ INU is by far my favorite. It's not listed on coinbase or binance, so it's still early I think. I'm stocking up and getting ready for the listings. It's fun to joke about lol Coq is hard money! Bok bok!
COQ Inu, Shib, Pepe, Floki, or DogWifHat
Darn. Maybe I should’ve bought ANAL instead of COQ.
Keep my COQ out of your mouth, you heathen!
You need COQ INU RENDER KASPA
COQ Inu a.k.a. COQ wallet is my pick for meme coins to blow up this run.
I must confess….i love coq inu After getting in on doge coin early and paperhanding it, I’ve decided to be a responsible degen. Diamond handing my precious COQ.
It’s exactly why I love it. Grew up hearing the news every night, “And the DOW is up 3% today.” Yeah? My portfolio was up 15%, my BTC dropped 10%, my CKB did a 4x and my COQ is twice as big as it was yesterday.
COQ. Because that’s the world we live in now..
I’ll stick to my COQ. Don’t need to bring colour into it I’m already sold 😂
I don't think you hodl enough $COQ
This just in! Bitmart officially announced! Don't stand there with your $COQ in your hand. It's not too late to grab some $TIPS! — Token name: Just The Tip — Token symbol: $TIPS — Blockchain: Solana — Current price: US$0.05 — Market Cap: $3.4m — Launch date: March 6th — Massive partnerships with youtubers X influencers Website: https://justthetipvip.com/
We told you not to stand there with you $COQ in your hand. It's not too late to grab some $TIPS! — Token name: Just The Tip — Token symbol: $TIPS — Blockchain: Solana — Current price: US$0.055 — Market Cap: $3.7m — Launch date: March 6th — Massive partnerships with youtubers X influencers Website: https://justthetipvip.com/
We told you not to stand there with your $COQ in your hand. It's not too late to grab some $TIPS! — Token name: Just The Tip — Token symbol: $TIPS — Blockchain: Solana — Current price: US$0.055 — Market Cap: $3.7m — Launch date: March 6th — Massive partnerships with youtubers X influencers Website: https://justthetipvip.com/
COQ will do exactly what BONK, WIF, and PEPE did
Sell SHIB, put it all on COQ INU...
MYRO and COQ seem like good mid-cap plays if you’re looking to gamble
Definitely. I just watch a Conor Kenny video on it! He has DCA's into it he said he did the same with COQ but it is a degenerate gamble so DYOR before doing so.
WOW! Team is amazing and a great community good vibes all over! $TIPS looks like the next COQ INU, catchy and funny vibe as most successful memes are!
They just listed COQ Inu today
If it helps I’m 100% $COQ cause I’m immature and regarded
My COQ bag is gonna be so huge 💎
I wished I had gotten more COQ!!!!!
Glad I'm not the only one that bought COQ for these reasons
I bought COQ INU and it's been stable since then, going up a little bit today. I only bought it so I could say "I'm holding my COQ", "My COQ is rising" and other dick jokes.
COQ my guy. 0x420, born to meme. Over 50 thousand organic holders. Up 1149% in 90 days.
I grabbed a cat coin,and still holding my COQ
COQ all day. (This is trash talk there’s no reason to meme season )
COQ to the death yo. Many exchanges are participating in meme season.
Are we all in on COQ or what?
COQ is a rooster though- we all know COQ INU doesnt have anything to do with dicks going into places. It is known.
This. I could have been early to COQ INU but I didn’t have the confidence in it, hindsight says I should’ve went in heavy when I first heard of it.
Market cap is too high already…COQ or PEPE will make it! #bestraderinthecryptospace #casino
My degen plays of COQ BONK and PEPE are paying off in spades. Playing with house money now. Good times.
That is bold lol. AI and gaming I think are better narratives but memes will catch up. Idk why you didn’t do this a couple months ago but more power to ya. I’m in 3 meme coins none of which your in: COQ INU, bc.. that shits funny. HUSKY bc.. it COULD be the dog of avax. And.. IC GHOST bc I believe in the technology of ICP. I don’t really believe you put that much money into memes btw… I tried to buy PEPE a couple months ago but the fees in coinbase wallet to buy it are fucking insane.
OP do you not want any COQ?
Bitcoin. Origin Trail Trac. And some COQ for the memes. All you need.
COQ all the way. Shit is gonna pop even harder.
I’ve at least 5x on COQ, and 3x on PEPE. Sold the initial investment and a bit more, letting the rest ride.
Memecoins are PnD'ing left and right. Pepe2 just went up 1000% in a week only to dump 60% in a single day. So many people got messed up in a single day there. Next memecoin to do so is probably sitting in the 50m to 100m market cap range, so maybe COQ, BOB, MYRO, stupid stuff like that. (Note: I don't hold any of these and don't intend on doing so either, I hold other shitcoins)