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When you did a tax extension but realized that crypto taxes are broken…

When you did a tax extension but realized that crypto taxes are broken…

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6 months ago, Zhu Su of Three Arrow Capital claimed 100k ETH is dust for him. Today, he is selling 10 USDC, trying to pay off debt after his $20 BN fund imploded. Markets always humble those too arrogant

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The case of crypto adoption

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World’s Biggest Ethereum Whales Accumulate Aave, Compound and Four Additional Altcoins

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What is a Compound, How it works & How to exchange Compound?

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Utility Tokens Vrs Governance Tokens

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Compound on polygon network

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Kronos-Sale | Presale & Launch Next Week | $1300 Cro Giveaway! | Safe Crypto Launch Platform | Strong Community | Doxxed Devs | Massive Marketing | Cronos Blockchain | Innovation Inspired By The Gods

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Kronos-Sale | Presale & Launch Next Week | $1300 Cro Giveaway! | Safe Crypto Launch Pad | Doxxed & KYC | Trusted Team | Huge Marketing | Cronos Blockchain | Innovation Inspired By The Gods

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What are Governance Tokens and why they are hot.

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Compound Community Votes Against Ending COMP Rewards Program – crypto.news

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In-Depth Look at Compound (COMP)

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Ramadan Feeding Charity, Africa

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Ramadan Feeding Charity, Africa

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Ramadan Feeding Charity, Africa.

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14th April: RUNE and COMP price digest

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MATIC, SHIB, SOL and COMP Tokens Added To Popular Robinhood Trading Platform

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Robinhood Bulls VS Korean Bear - Who Will Win Today's $40,000 Bitcoin?

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My previous post currently aging like wine. Or at least as drinkable as 2 buck chuck.

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My precious post currently aging like a fine wine. Or at least as good as 2 buck chuck.

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Good, Bad, Ugly of Yield Farming

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Although the concept of liquidity mining has been around for a while, it has been tepid before. However, just after the decentralized finance (DeFi) protocol Compound launched a new mechanism and distributed its network governance token COMP to users, liquidity mining suddenly became popular.

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The Economics Design of AMPL Token

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Research actually shows US equity markets do well during rate hikes, crypto should be no different

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Compound $COMP: The DeFi Blockchain Application Disrupting Banks

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Brazilian Asset Manager Hashdex to Launch DeFi ETF Including UNI, AAVE and COMP

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Does anyone have an opinion about the Compound coin?

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The Economics Design of AMPL Token

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2022 is likely to be a market for deep value investors. Even right now, as BTC is weak, some fundamentally strong coins are up 100% in a week. I think this trend will continue of undervalued coins catching up

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$TONIC The next AAVE/COMP is here on the Cronos Chain, currently only 2.57M market cap and only launched a week ago.

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$TONIC The next AAVE/COMP is here on the Cronos Chain, currently only 2.57M market cap and only launched 4 days ago.

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Aave (AAVE) vs. Compound (COMP) [2021]

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True Value of DeFi Coins

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Calculating Error on Portfolio? Help!

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Compound coin price prediction: can COMP reach $5,000 by 2026? Anyone bullish on COMP?

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Ways to Earn Yield on Your Crypto

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I'm gunna yolo $1000 at the crypto market today.

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The DEFI opportunity -- don't sleep on it

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Got some spare crypto? Help clean the oceans!

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Need some advice and suggestions

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xToken – DeFi project that is upgrading its scale to an ecosystem ⬆️ Big updates releasing soon 📈 Low MCAP 🚀 Easy 100x potential 🚀 Strong backing from big names in DeFi 💎 $XTK

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🟢🔥500$ worth STORY SHILLING COMP - 15th Nov🔥🟢🟢

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Less than 20% of Compund's liquidity miners hold any COMP tokens at all

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Good, Bad, Ugly of Yield Farming | Economics of yield farming and Agrarian Society 2.0 :O

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The Crypto Earn Hodl Project: Week 13

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What coins have exciting tech to you?

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Dive into the world of DeFi.

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1 Year Alt-Coin DCA Experiment - Week 2 Update

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Universe Protocol ($XYZ) an actually worthwhile moonshot

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What do you think of this crypto portfolio allocation?

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RAMP DeFi (RAMP) vs. Compound (COMP) [2021]

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Defi Plaza, a new DEX on Ethereum that is 2-3x cheaper in gas than any other ETH-based DEX!

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help with purchase from ETH in mew to uni v2 and now where the 4 alt coins are and how to move back to mew or another wallet

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The Crypto Earn Hodl Project Week 12: Love to Stay but gotta Bounce.

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Need Feedback, New to Crypto

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New to Crypto Investing, Please give feedback below

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What do I do with these ERC20 tokens??

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Crypto101: Good, Bad, Ugly of Yield Farming :O

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Polkadot is the next Ethereum

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The Crypto Hodl Project Week 14: Someone call Thin Lizzy, The Bulls are Back in town.

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Hundred Finance (HND): an improved Compound (COMP)? Huge Upside!

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All this time I was never able to participate in Coinbase Earn - Until today (Germany)

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Buying a very small amount of COMP as a lottery ticket

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Question: Trying to understand wallets and fees?

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Novice Question: Normal fees and wallet choice?

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What's the Economics Design of AMPL Token??

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Is Pendle worth investing in?

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Getting rich with crypto the slow and safe way via compounding is better than getting rich quickly but get higher risks.

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Getting rich with crypto the slow and safe way via compounding is better than getting rich quick but get higher risks.

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DeFi versus CeFi lending: Which one is right for you?

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Compound crisis averted? Securing exposed COMP could be just the start

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How to actually DYOR about DeFi and where to begin

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Hello fellow crypto nerds. I wanted to help anyone out by getting more coins in more pockets! Hopefully my teeny tiny advice can help someone go to the moon on a cheap coin or pay for takeout tonight.

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Compounds bug apparently bigger than thought; ~$150 million in COMP drained rather than $80 million as reported originally.

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Compound chief offers NFTs to people who return mislaid COMP tokens

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COMP Tanks 8% After Facing Second Exploit In Less Than a Week, Drains $21 Million

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Compounding problems: $65m more COMP at risk as devs wait for time-locked bug fix

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This wallet just claimed $27 millions bec of the COMP bug

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Has everyone seen Compunds booboo?

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90m accidental payout due to bug (COMP)

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Altcoin Project Accidentally Sends $92,400,000 in Crypto to Investors. Founder Robert Leshner says that those who received a “large, incorrect” amount of Compound tokens (COMP) because of a bug should return the crypto assets. Otherwise, it will be reported as income to the Internal Revenue Service.

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Appalled and disgusted by Compound Finance founder threatening to call IRS and DOXX those who got lucky due to the protocols bugs

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DeFi Compound Founder Pleads and Threatens Users to Return $90M in COMP Mistakenly Sent

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Incase you missed it - Compound

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The 99% rule to maintain Crypto Karma

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Founder of $COMP Robert Leshner threatened people after they received a large, incorrect amount of $COMP from the Compound protocol error and then apologised after Community backlash

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Compound COMP exploit - a full breakdown

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Compound Finance coding flaw lets borrowers claim up to US$84m in unearned tokens

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As DeFi Is Marred by $500k Hack, Compound Is Changing Its Governance Protocol

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COMP bug leaves $80 million in COMP at risk of being misrewarded

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Error in the recently released COMP upgrade had a bug with $50M drained from the COMP liquidity pool. Another $30M possible

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DeFi Money Market Compound Overpays $15M in COMP Rewards in Possible Exploit

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What to do with the free crypto from Coinbase ? Don't trust my self trading. Just compulsive holding I suppose

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The Crypto Hodl Project Week 10: Hodl on Loosely, but Don’t Let Go!

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Are you more diversified than the average crypto investor? What’s your strategy?

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Your Daily Crypto Catchup - 23/09

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Bitcoin (BTC) and Ethereum (ETH) have possibly completed A-B-C corrective structures. BTC, ETH, XRP, ZEC, AVAX, COMP, AXS – Technical Analysis Sept 22

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A Christmas Present

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A Christmas present

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Yeah for sure! To go long ETH for example with this same strategy is simple. Start by depositing ETH to the supply market. Then borrow stable coins against it (I go for usdt since it has the deepest liquidity and the added bonus of possibly being under backed so I get a built in short against tether, but now I’m getting off track.) Take the stable coins you borrow against your supplied ETH to Uniswap or Curve and swap them for more ETH Deposit the ETH into compound supply market (this pads your collateral and dramatically increases your margins while also earning ETH interest and COMP token rewards). Now you have ETH supplied but stable coins borrowed. As ETH goes up in value you can withdraw from the supply side and sell it into stables to pay off the loan. You keep the difference between the price of the ETH when you bought it with borrowed stables and when you soled back into stables as your Long profits. You can do both strategies at the same time and they will even act as hedges for each others collateral balance. Then close them in whatever order you like, in whatever increments suit your strategy. Compound is my favorite DeFi protocol

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What’s up with COMP? Pumping on no news? Is it because they’ve held up well against CeFi losers.

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USDC is definitely on the top. Most of the stablecoin/alt staking pairs are also with USDC. I think I saw a few on BBANK. Also, you'll find it on almost every DAO. AAVE, COMP etc. Yield aggregators like SPOOL have DAI as well, I'd put that after USDC under the least shadiest.

Remember when Olympus DAO was mentioned everywhere over here? LOL. Honestly expected that DAOs would be beneficial. Allowing a sense of ownership, control over your own identity and data information etc. I actually read an article last month about Olympus DAO being worth nothing in the near future and another one in March about how they can't sustain their growth. On the other hand, AAVE came in the top DAOs for 2022 with COMP and LBLOCK. DAOs like SPOOL are plugged into the former two as well. Unfortunately, most people are victim to scams like Olympus rather than doing ample research into other options, despite there being many

Literally almost exactly the same I’m also keeping an eye on XTZ, COMP, & AAVE but I already have some of each, I’m also not dcaing into Ada or algo atm I think this “recession” is actually bordering on depression once food prices spike because the cost of agricultural yields have yet to have any of the market conditions priced in. I reckon fall is when shit gets really bad once meat costs $25-$50/lbs. Thats when I’ll throw money at the alts

Well tailspin or not, they've narrowly avoided catastrophe by adding more collateral and paying off some of their loans. First time it jumped up was the 14th, when they started adding more collateral to avoid the liq. Today's jump might've partially been due to them repaying a 10mm DAI loan to COMP.

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It’s not really related to the COMP payment, but the article does mention a potential short squeeze on the CEL token. Right now a lot a the CEL supply is potentially locked up on the Celsius platform and it has been heavily shorted due to the news of the liquify issues. So lots of people are buying CEL on FTX and taking it off the exchange.

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Lets not gloss over the bigger news here, they earned $5200 in COMP /s

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > Reusing my previous entry [from here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/hdw1d32/). > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial shenanigans inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > -... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6rt5n/general_concepts_round_dex_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/v2re03/monthly_optimists_discussion_june_2022/).

Talking about DeFi, is AAVE the only lending protocol that works on multiple chains? I may be wrong, but both MKR and COMP are ETH only right?

#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > Reusing my previous entry [from here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/hdw1d32/). > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial shenanigans inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > -... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6rt5n/general_concepts_round_dex_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/v2re03/monthly_optimists_discussion_june_2022/).

Exactly, now is the time to get it right again, and I've been busy adding to my stash of Bitcoin, COMP, MATIC, and SYLO that has a smart wallet that allows P2P transactions.

This will sound made up but in the summer 2020, I had two different dreams. Both short, and both of just the default coinbase chart with green percentage numbers. One was about COMP, the other NKN. Both saw insane gains the following day. And it's not like the whole market had an extremely good day on those days, they were one of the few seeing those kind of gains of the dozens that are on coinbase. That's it. Just those two times ever, and never again. Probably coincidence but extremely interesting anyway

Mentions:#COMP#NKN

What you guys think about Compound (COMP)?

Mentions:#COMP

This week, I'm looking at BTC, XTZ, COMP, and SYLO, and I can easily stake XTZ on my Sylo smart wallet for a 6% APY.

COMP is jumping up right now

Mentions:#COMP

#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > Reusing my previous entry [from here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/hdw1d32/). > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial shenanigans inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > -... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6rt5n/general_concepts_round_dex_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/v2re03/monthly_optimists_discussion_june_2022/).

#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > Reusing my previous entry [from here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/hdw1d32/). > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial shenanigans inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > ... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6rt5n/general_concepts_round_dex_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/uvunu3/britains_crypto_list_heres_who_to_watch/).

We are literally on the precipice if you zoom out, and the descending wedge from ATH has been horrific, but it was also a second ATH in the scheme of the larger bull market cycle (DeFi summer & the COMP pump, June-ish 2020), institutional entries following Elon. Having a definitive line in the sand where you turn bullish/bearish on the continuation of the cycle is a massive boon to coping with volatility. Logorithmic chart helps cut through the noise if investing longer term also.

Mentions:#COMP

Only VGX and COMP because I had those in the before times.

Mentions:#VGX#COMP

tldr; Phuture has launched its first crypto index product, the Phuture DeFi Index (PDI). The index invests in seven DeFi assets, with the largest allocations going to Uniswap and Aave, followed by Lido DAO Token (LDO) and Compound (COMP). Other assets include Yearn.finance (YFI), SushiSwap (SUSHI) and Alchemix (ALCX). *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

25% BTC 25% ETH 10% LINK 10% AAVE 10% AVAX 10% COMP 10% FIAT (cash)

What's your opinion on TRB and COMP ?

Mentions:#TRB#COMP

Not sure what everyone else is saying, but here are my least favorite top 100 coins. APE - does nothing EOS - has no future Bitcoin SV - shitcoin STEPN & GMT - move to earn with 1 thousand dollar NFT sneakers? Cool idea but there will never really be demand for this. WAVES + Neutrino USD - had an issue with the integrity of the developers, cannot be trusted, has had trouble maintaining its peg. COMP - Because the founder was a little bitch when the coin had an exploit and threatened to dox people/tattle to the IRS to get out of it.

#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > Reusing my previous entry [from here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/hdw1d32/). > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial shenanigans inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > - ... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6rt5n/general_concepts_round_dex_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/umsqe8/monthly_optimists_discussion_may_2022/).

You guys are buying COMP at these prices right ? Thank me later.

Mentions:#COMP

Except none of those shitcoins ever make it on my exchange, ah well. Currently the "shitcoin" with the lowest market cap on my exchange that isn't LUNA is COMP, which is already dying a slow death.

Mentions:#LUNA#COMP

I have a little bit that I've held for years still at a loss even with the recent pump. I believe it will do more than ok in the long run, so I will hold it for a long time. Plus I like the fact that there are less than 1M in existence. Same reason I like COMP and AAVE for the low overall supply. ☮️❤️😎🚀

Mentions:#COMP#AAVE

Zero? Really? AAVE, LINK, MANA, KCS, BAT, COMP, etc.

Eh. My 88$ worth of COMP isn't much of a risk.

Mentions:#COMP

My COMP is actually one of the few that is up.

Mentions:#COMP

I sold all mine last week. COMP was pretty bad though.

Mentions:#COMP

Well to be honest your 1.5 half year old timed the dip better than 90% of Reddit. If you need the money, sell it. If you don’t, hold until the 4th quarter of this year and you “should” be in the green. Or Hold until the next bitcoin halving in 2024 and I guarantee you 100% profit. SEEMS LIKE THE CRPYTO HAMSTER HAS SOME COMP!

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > Reusing my previous entry [from here](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/hdw1d32/). > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial shenanigans inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > -... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/r6rt5n/general_concepts_round_dex_conarguments_december/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ttir1a/monthly_skeptics_discussion_april_2022/).

U know how many times I’ve swing traded a coin and like 8 months later it’s done a 5x or so ??? MANA, SAND, COMP, STRAX, WAVES… u get the idea. When I finally started tallying up every single investment and keeping up with my average, long term holding was the only way to go

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Post is by: Zealousideal-War6206 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ubvstn/what_are_governance_tokens_and_why_they_are_hot/ Governance tokens are gems in the realm of Decentralized Finance. These tokens are enabled on top of different protocols. These tokens empowers those that are holders of the tokens to govern the protocol. This does not mean that holders of a particular governance token can just make a total change to the project. Few things to note: * Governance tokens allows you to be part of the team to guide the project on its vision but not to bring a total change to the project or redirect the vision of the project. * You must hold a certain number of tokens to be eligible to vote or submit a proposal. You can't just hold some few numbers and try to pass a proposal. Every project has the number of tokens you will require to be able to pass a proposal. Mostly depends on the value of each token. -Some Governance tokens out there. ____________________________________ There are many governance tokens out there but in this post I will highlight only three(3) out of the many tokens out there. 1. Synthetic- (Snx) With a total supply of 190,075,446, Synthetix is a derivatives protocol backed by a native token SNX. In other to mint new derivatives that is Synths, usrs must stake at least 750% of the Synths value in SNX. 2. Cryptex Finance- (CTX) With a total supply of 10,000,000. CTX is a governance token that powers and secures the Cryptex protocol. Holders of CTX can vote on protocol upgrades for Total Crypto Market Cap Token (TCAP) as well as all future products within the Cryptex Finance ecosystem. 3. Compound - (COMP) With a total supply of 10,000,000. Os the governance token behind the lending protocol. COMP is earned by users for lending or borrowing assets. Comp is used to govern protocol decisions on the compound governance dashboard. It is interesting to note that both CTX and COMP has the same total supply but COMP has 2 times the circulating supply of CTX. But while CTX is trading below $6 COMP trades above $130. Comp is older than CTX. Cryptex Finance just celebrated their one year anniversary. Does this predict the future price of CTX? So if you hold governance token like CTX or COMP you can stake it and be involved in the growth of the protocol. Whiles you stake or lock your token you earn some interest on the locked amount. In bear market you still earn for staking your token. You earn passive income on the staked amount. -Governance tokens represents voting power on a blockchain project. You have some power to propose change and help the project win. -You will be involved in the forward progress of the protocol through voting. -You are in charge of how your investment should go. Think about the benefits of shareholders and have a similar idea of how governance tokens works. I will post more content soon. Bless. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoCurrency) if you have any questions or concerns.*

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>Care to give me an example of when this happened on a bigger project? Compound. Remember the whole, "Please return the funds or we will report your wallets to the IRS" debacle? That's because someone found an exploit that allowed them to mint $80 million in COMP tokens that were originally supposed to go to liquidity providers.

Mentions:#COMP
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2-coin HODL: GUSD & BTC in Gemini Earn with Gemini credit card rewards in BTC 1-coin active trading: COMP

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Compound (COMP) Polygon (MATIC) Solana (SOL) Shiba Inu (SHIB). Saved you a click

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COMP

Mentions:#COMP
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MKR, COMP, OGN looking really good. KNC with 72% shorts also looks amazing. Just my random predictions for tomorrow. Hopefully btc recovers soon

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Id agree with you but COMP has no buzz on social media and that’s where RH users make decisions. I am leaning towards Matic since it has huge support online and it is $1.50 a coin which ignorant consumers also think matters since many think you need to hold whole coins

Mentions:#COMP
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COMP now at a very attractive price

Mentions:#COMP
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I’m genuinely curious how Robinhood chose the new coins they just added. COMP, SOL, SHIB, and MATIC. I mean, it’s a diverse mix, but still kind of puzzling that COMP is in there?

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didnt robinhood do the same today? yes they did Compound (COMP) Polygon (MATIC) Shiba Inu (SHIB) Solana (SOL)

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Compound (COMP) Polygon (MATIC) Shiba Inu (SHIB) Solana (SOL)

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Robinhood listed MATIC, SOL, SHIBA and COMP 🤯

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Robinhood really listed SOL, MATIC, SHIB and COMP. I thought people were just saying that to push for a pump.

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By staking, do you mean to say your lending COMP as collateral on Compound & also generating COMP or are you directly staking to the Compound network?

Mentions:#COMP
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Do you participate in governance? COMP and MKR are governance tokens right?

Mentions:#COMP#MKR
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Probably. Less than 1M exist, OG defi token. I hold a little, along with AAVE and COMP. ☮️❤️😎🚀

Mentions:#AAVE#COMP
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Sold 75% of balancer I was holding, there was a nice pump. Looking to buy FTM and currently holding Fetch.ai, balancer, SNX, SKALE, LINK, 1Inch and got rekt in SPELL, COMP, SLP (65% down)

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> I think much beter is COMP, DASH, AAVE, BAL, VET What!? I suggest that if you don't understand anything about Crypto, DON'T GIVE FINANCIAL ADVICE TO OTHERS! for god shake r/cc is so horrible

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I do not think it is a good idea.... I think much beter is COMP, DASH, AAVE, BAL, VET... especially having in mind their place in the current cycle... also they mention them at the end of the page: [https://prices.org/crypto-market-analysis-01-04-2022/](https://prices.org/crypto-market-analysis-01-04-2022/)

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When a property hype bull market returns it won't be unusual to see 10-25% APY as the norm across DeFi. DeFi will have many more hype cycles like that which saw COMP go to $800 and yields thiugh the room. Every major study into the exponential nature of compounding respectfully disagrees with your assertion. Most notably, because richness is subjective. For example, even at current APY lows I'm making enough today daily to support my lifestyle next year when I move back to a developing country. My home, food and a little play money will be covered, and that's now, with another 9ish months of daily compounding to go, and without considering my capital. I will certainly feel rich, even if a westerner may think it barely amounts to much.

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial fuckery inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval function](https://cryptot3ddybear.github.io/posts/scam-explained-bsc-noapproval/), preventing you from dumping the scamcoin you just bought. > > - Lastly, a DEX often requires users to approve or allow access to a given token before trading. [The default 'unlimited allowance' is convenient, but if exploited it... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ttir1a/monthly_skeptics_discussion_april_2022/).

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Calm down and make some $$ via DeFi; lending/borrowing, staking, Yieldfarming, etc. The likes of AAVE, DAFI, RAMP, SNX, COMP, GREEN, FARM, etc are here to give the traditional financial system a run for its money.

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial fuckery inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's app... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. You're invited to participate in this contest. Contestants are awarded moon prizes if they win. The moon prize allocations are 300 moons for 1st place, 150 moons for 2nd place, and 75 moons for 3rd place. Winners are also assigned special trophy flair which will be visible in r/CryptoCurrency and r/CointestOfficial. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/t40xg3/monthly_skeptics_discussion_march_2022/).

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial fuckery inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's app... ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. You're invited to participate in this contest. Contestants are awarded moon prizes if they win. The moon prize allocations are 300 moons for 1st place, 150 moons for 2nd place, and 75 moons for 3rd place. Winners are also assigned special trophy flair which will be visible in r/CryptoCurrency and r/CointestOfficial. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/t40xg3/monthly_skeptics_discussion_march_2022/).

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won an award in the DEX Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial fuckery inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approval ... ***** Would you like to know more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. You're invited to participate in this contest. Winners are awarded moon prizes if they win. The moon prize allocations are 300 moons for 1st place, 150 moons for 2nd place, and 75 moons for 3rd place. Winners are also assigned special trophy flair which will be visible in r/CryptoCurrency and r/CointestOfficial. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/t40xg3/monthly_skeptics_discussion_march_2022/).

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won a Cointest award for DEX Con-Arguments in a prior [r/CC Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial fuckery inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain transactions, it can be [easy for even savvy traders to learn an expensive lesson about human error](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/jo7lj2/help_needed_i_payed_235172_eth_9500_for_120/) > > - The process can be further intimidating when attempting to[ bridge assets on sidechains and L2s](https://ethhole.link/layer2) (and it is precisely smaller, newer traders who benefit most from[ lower fees](https://l2fees.info/)) > > - So it's not surprising that [many users - especially new market participants - would prefer to accept the counterparty risk of a custodial exchange](https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-regains-1-position-on-apple-app-store-as-crypto-com-jumps-to-third) in return for a consumer oriented and streamlined user experience: > > - Given lack of KYC/AML, the majority of DEXs do not allow for onboarding/offboarding fiat and require users to touch a centralized exchange at some point if they want to get money in or out of 'the system'. > > - To go back to the Compound bug, Leshner clarified that his 'doxx' comment was in reference to DeFi users' interactions with centralized exchanges: > > > "[He said that anyone could identify the public Ethereum addresses that interact with the Compound protocol, and whether they engaged with popular exchanges like Coinbase that collect information about users.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/business/dealbook/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen.html)" > > - Few DEXs natively offer the same level of trading functionality as centralized exchanges (e.g. limit orders, stop losses). > > - While centralized exchange users are primarily concerned with fees and spread, DEX users must also familiarize themselves with concepts like [slippage](https://academy.shrimpy.io/post/what-is-slippage-how-to-avoid-slippage-on-defi-exchanges) and [impermanent loss](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained) > > - As the market becomes more saturated with DEX platforms and aggregators, it can be difficult for a lay user to evaluate competing promises of trustlessness and decentralization - or recognize when they're being exploited. > > - [Exit scams and rugpulls are prolific](https://decrypt.co/55787/defi-rug-pulls-were-cryptos-top-fraud-scheme-in-2020-ciphertrace) - newbies may find it challenging to verify if a DEX is legitimate, especially when dev teams are anonymous and many users lack technical proficiency to audit the protocol/smart contracts themselves. > > - While hacks and phishing risks aren't limited to DEXs, they expose [users to additional attack vectors](https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/how-to-identify-and-avoid-uniswap-scams): > > > - Given [the ease of creating \(copy/pasting\) and listing a token](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/business/hype-coins-cryptocurrency.html), it's no surprise that scamcoins abound on DEXs, many of which [spoof legitimacy](https://twitter.com/uniwhalesio/status/1357785710896545792). > > - E.g., [researchers identified over 10K scam tokens and scam liquidity pools on Uniswap V2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00229). > > - Or check out [this recent attack which shows how Uniswap v3 liquidity pools can be manipulated](https://twitter.com/Mudit__Gupta/status/1455627465678749696). > > - More sinister is when [developers tweak the token contract to take your assets](https://twitter.com/r0bster97/status/1338182571558055937) or [remove a token's approv... ***** Would you like to know more? [Click here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pfos3j/rcc_cointest_general_concepts_dex_conarguments/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_DEX) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. You're invited to participate in this contest. Winners are awarded moon prizes if they win. The moon prize allocations are 300 moons for 1st place, 150 moons for 2nd place, and 75 moons for 3rd place. Winners are also assigned special trophy flair which will be visible in r/CryptoCurrency and r/CointestOfficial. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/t40xg3/monthly_skeptics_discussion_march_2022/).

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#DEX Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place for DEX Con-Arguments in a prior [r/CC Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #DEX - Con Argument > > *Disclosure - I currently hold several DEX governance tokens, ~5% of my current portfolio value* > > ##What are decentralized exchanges and automated market makers? > > * (1) Intro: https://decrypt.co/resources/what-is-decentralized-exchange-dex > > * (2) Vitalik's original Reddit post: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/55m04x/lets_run_onchain_decentralized_exchanges_the_way/ > > ##DEX caveats > > I'm extremely bullish on [DeFi](https://decrypt.co/resources/defi-ultimate-beginners-guide-decentralized-finance) and believe DEXs specifically hold great promise in terms of: reducing counterparty risk, preserving anonymity and removing barriers to entry for users looking to trade and earn yield. > > That being said, there are some tradeoffs and limitations of interacting with DEXs to be aware of: > > ##Yo dawg, I heard you like decentralization > > - Decentralization can refer [to the protocol itself or to the governance and development of the protocol/platform](https://miro.medium.com/max/1304/0*epCTOVyxEmQq-AiU). > > - [Decentralization is a spectrum](https://nopara73.medium.com/few-words-on-decentralization-and-anonymous-payments-160782d30b9e) rather than a binary distinction. So a DEX may be [decentralized in some ways but centralized in others](https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/07/23/decentralized-exchanges-arent-living-up-to-their-name-and-data-proves-it/). Governance and developer control of a platform, for example, can vary wildly: > > >“Some have large control over their direction, others are governed by venture capital investors, and others have broader communities that vote in changes like an open source project.” > \- [Lex Sokolin, CMO and Global Fintech Co-Head, ConsenSys](https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/why-defi-isn-t-always-as-decentralized-as-you-might-think-7695.htm) > > - Users in the [Uniswap Con Cointest thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/og2r4t/rcryptocurrency_cointest_top_10_category_uniswap/) have articulated many of their concerns about whales and VC interests dominating UNI governance politics. > > - But I'll repeat the example of [Uniswap's unilateral decision to delist tokens](https://decrypt.co/76793/ethrereum-dex-uniswap-drops-tokenized-stocks-as-regulators-close-in) after facing regulatory scrutiny from the SEC. Even if a certain protocol is decentralized, the team can take actions to limit access. > > - Similarly, the DeFi community was not too pleased when Compound CEO Robert Leshner [threatened to doxx users](https://decrypt.co/82387/defi-community-blasts-compound-ceo-for-doxxed-comment) who didn't return COMP tokens after a protocol bug. > > - "Code is law. Unless we fuck up. Then we call the IRS on you." said [Blockstream CSO Samson Mow](https://nitter.com/Excellion/status/1443875126982840330). > > - Another concern would be seemingly decentralized platforms like Bancor having backdoors and the ability to freeze user funds ([which they did after a hack](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/bancor-loses-23-5m/)). > > - [As LTC founder Charlie Lee stated](https://nitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1016499756158234624): > > >"An exchange is not decentralized if it can lose customer funds OR if it can freeze customer funds. Bancor can do BOTH. It's a false sense of decentralization." > > - [Or, as DOGE founder Jackson Palmer commented](https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-lessons-learned-from-a-false-sense-of-decentralization-875b8c2731a6): > > >“The key thing here is not the hack itself — it’s the fact the Bancor team had the ability to freeze funds. How many other “decentralized” DApps have a built-in kill switch that’s centrally controlled?” > > - In removing gatekeepers and intermediaries, DEXs and AMMs promise a more level financial playing field than the permissioned, opaque system of centralized finance. > > - However, even when governance of an open source platform is 'fair' and decentralized, DEX users are exposed to some of the same financial fuckery inherent to CeFi, [such as front running](https://www.paradigm.xyz/2020/08/ethereum-is-a-dark-forest/). > > - There is no need for practices like [Robinhood's payment for order flow](https://web.archive.org/web/20210729220645/https://www.wsj.com/articles/robinhoods-debut-is-clouded-by-sec-scrutiny-of-payment-for-order-flow-11625655600) when trades are publicly broadcasted for the world to see: > > - "[Decentralized exchanges make it easier for anyone to exploit temporary market inefficiencies for a profit. In other words, it’s easier to front-run the market](https://blog.gnosis.pm/decentralized-exchanges-have-a-problem-7e6d81d91ba1)." > > > - "[Trades on decentralized exchanges \(DEX\) are sitting ducks while they remain idle in the processing queue. A small cohort of developers can and do take advantage of this lag time between hitting the trade button and the trade executing on-chain by front-running, back-running or 'sandwiching' a transaction.](https://www.yahoo.com/now/bad-sandwich-defi-trader-poisons-153336603.html)" > > > ##With mediocre UX comes great responsibility > > - DEXs are often not newbie friendly > > - There is a learning curve to self-custodying and creating a web wallet > > - Because of the immutability of blockchain tra