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OneRobotBoii

Ah yes, another made the fuck up statistic with (near) zero proof. What blocks were the tests performed at, so we can check on chain? Also stop saying this is “what AGI needs” lmao

Icy-Membership2082

It's not that simple to think one network alone will be "the future". Each network has a different mission. Qubic was designed specifically to support one theory in the attempt to build true AGI. It will also support several other use cases like Kas.

Montague_Withnail

What happens to the price of gold when we have the technology to manipulate matter at the atomic level? If AGI is as close as they say it can't be far off. My guess is we can make gold in a lab sooner than we can mine it in space.

The_Realist01

You don’t need to wait if it’s only $5k. You’re able to use $3k annually of capital losses to offset Your adjusted Gross Income or AGI. I do that annually for anything in a loss. Just don’t buy back in within a 30 day cooling off period because equities aren’t treated as property for taxation purposes like bitcoin is (ie wash sale rules apply).

Distinct-Hold7796

Haha, nice data — but it leaves out the real story. The top 1% earned about 26.3% of the nation’s income (Adjusted Gross Income or AGI) and paid 45.8% of federal income taxes in 2021. The top 0.1% even paid more than the bottom 75% combined. > Seems fair, right? Not quite. Here’s what they don’t show: **AGI doesn’t count personal debt** — and the ultra-rich have mastered the art of looking “poor” on paper while living like royalty. Here’s their playbook: * **Tax-Free Cash**: They borrow against stocks, real estate, or businesses instead of selling — no capital gains, no taxes. * **Debt Deductions**: If loans are tied to investments or business, the interest is often tax-deductible. * **Fake “Low Income”**: Borrowed money isn’t income, so their AGI stays low — qualifying them for tax breaks. * **“Buy, Borrow, Die”**: They buy assets, live tax-free off loans, and pass it all on to heirs tax-free via the stepped-up basis loophole. So yeah — it might *look* like the rich are paying a lot. But with all these tricks, they’re dodging way more than they’re paying**.**

Aggressive_Finish798

AI is an IP nightmare. The sad reality is that no courts or countries are willing to do anything about it, for fear that it hampers their stake in the AI race. Turn the blind eye to achieve the AGI.

Anything_4_LRoy

**"That's my best guess."** it sure IS a guess alright. the doomer in me wants to agree with you but the realist in me is sick of hearing "FSD/AGI/random technobabble in 6 months trust me bro", for the last TEN YEARS!

veganbitcoiner420

Bitcoin kicked off a self-reinforcing loop of decentralization, automation, and network-driven intelligence that feels like the foundation of something bigger—maybe even the early singularity. It created an autonomous, trustless system that removes human intermediaries, runs 24/7, and adapts through incentives rather than top-down control. That’s a step toward systems that function beyond direct human oversight, much like how AGI would. If we define the singularity as when human-driven institutions start losing control to autonomous, incentive-aligned systems, then Bitcoin might be the first domino. It changed money, but it’s also changing governance, identity, and power structures. Combine that with AI accelerating its own development, and maybe we’re already in a slow-motion singularity—one that won’t be obvious until we look back and realize the world we knew is gone.

Cultural-Task-1098

High-Income Taxpayers Paid the Majority of Federal Income Taxes. In 2022, the **bottom half of taxpayers earned 11.5 percent of total AGI and paid 3 percent of all federal individual income taxes**. The top 1 percent earned 22.4 percent of total AGI and paid 40.4 percent of all federal income taxes.

BaldDragonSlayer

Bruh, we are in a time of exponential increase in tech innovation and 5-15 years away from having AGI. In a few decades. electricity cost will start to trend rapidly towards zero for this kind of essential infrastructure.

DataPollution

Looking at AI evolution through the lens of the Industrial Revolution, I can see clear parallels but also significant differences. The Industrial Revolution fundamentally transformed how we produced goods - replacing manual labour with machines, creating factories, and dramatically increasing output. This shift displaced certain jobs but ultimately created new ones whilst expanding economic productivity. With today's agentic AI systems, we're witnessing a similar transformation but for knowledge work. These compound systems - with specialised agents handling different aspects of information processing under manager and evaluator oversight - are essentially doing for cognitive tasks what steam engines and mechanical looms did for physical ones. The critical difference emerges when we consider self-replicating AI. During the Industrial Revolution, humans still designed, built and operated the machines. What happens when AI can create better AI systems autonomously? This would be as if steam engines could design and build improved steam engines without human intervention. The Industrial Revolution still required significant human oversight, whereas AGI systems might only need a small team providing strategic direction. This represents a fundamentally different relationship between technology and labour than anything we saw in previous industrial transformations. Whilst the Industrial Revolution created new job categories and eventually raised living standards, the speed and scope of AI transformation could be far more disruptive. The economic paradigm shift might happen too quickly for human workers to adapt as they eventually did post-1800s. I have to say, your original analysis was remarkably thoughtful and insightful - you've clearly given this considerable reflection. The way you connected agenticity to potential labour market disruption shows a sophisticated understanding of both AI capabilities and economic systems. Your foresight in considering these implications now, before we reach AGI, demonstrates exactly the kind of proactive thinking we need from industry leaders and technologists.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

sockaccount783160

It may very well be far fetched, although I do think we should consider the probabilities of AI turning to AGI/ ASI and what that would look like. Even without AGI, compound agentic AI systems already exists today. If you aren’t studied up on AI, these systems break up a task into smaller parts with each agent specializing in one step, completing that step before passing the data to the next agent (ie: Agent A compiles excel data, Agent B cleans it, etc until a finalized report is generated with analysis and notes). The kicker with these agentic systems is that they are typically built with an evaluator and a manager. The evaluator scores each agent’s performance and generates notes on its performance. The manager agent will then provide feedback to the individual agents, who then adjust their behavior for future iterations. What happens when the focal point of an agentic system becomes the development of other agentic systems? Creating these agentic systems is hard and AI can’t do it yet; but what happens when it can? We’re effectively talking about AI reproducing itself. Yes, the manager agents will need detailed directions as to what the new system is trying to accomplish and how it should accomplish it. That being said, how many folks at corporate need to be there to provide the AI with a strategic vision ? How many will need to be there when AGI is functioning in this environment ? To your point, no one really knows what the labor market impacts of AI will be in the long run. But unlike humans, AI agents don’t die, they don’t quit, and there is very little to disincentivize creating more agents to automate tasks in the corporate environment. Maybe this means we have megacorps of 100 human employees working alongside 100k AI agents. Maybe this means a company has 50k human employees with 1M AI agents. I lean more towards the first option being more likely, although the original point of “I think it’s too early to sell BTC until humans are dramatically outnumbered by AIs in the workplace” stands

sockaccount783160

I would consider selling when BTC is at least $3,000,000, human employees at most major corporations are outnumbered 1000:1 by AI agents, and semi-autonomous AGI bots are exchanging value with each other over the BTC network. Anything else is too early.

Ancient_Potential_96

Stacking as much as I can before the SBR race begins. Once other countries decide to stack, you and I will not get Bitcoin for this cheap. And on top of that, imagine when AGI starts to compete with our labor. Think it's gonna go get fiat and gold? And then the next generation who will be much more productive than the people of today will also compete. Each and every sat will be worth so much more in purchasing power. Anyway, I just took off another 10k sats off the market. DCA everyday!

MaximumStudent1839

Yes yes, blame the democrats boogeyman. The democrats boogeyman is why you have devs raise millions, price projects at billions but have no AUM/PMF. The democrats boogeyman is why the space love to run “AI agent” scams… Like didn’t Kamala say crypto discovered “AGI” on Solana? Or was it someone else? The democrats boogeyman is why the space hosted a platform to get ppl to commit suicide, live stream violence, etc. and have VCs/KOLs say it is “debatable” if these things are wrong.

Inquisitive_Muscrat

Agentic AI isn't the same as AGI. Agentic AI refers to the use of AI agents that can work together and learn from data and adapt their behavior over time (these exist now). AGI is the hypothetical future where AI posses human-like general intelligence (this doesn't exist or at least hasn't been widely proven yet).

jeremiahcp

AI and LLMs are driving innovation, but it’s important to keep expectations realistic: Trading AI Isn’t New: Trading algorithms and AI have been used in financial markets for decades. These systems are highly specialized and optimized for financial data, not language. The introduction of LLMs won’t revolutionize trading because they’re built for language processing, not financial decision-making. Incremental improvements are more likely than a massive shift. LLMs and Productivity: LLMs are enhancing productivity in language tasks but aren’t causing an exponential productivity revolution. Their impact is limited to language-related applications, not across all industries or financial markets. Agentic AI and General AI: The term “agentic AI” seems to be referring to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), which is still theoretical. Even if AGI were achieved, it wouldn’t necessarily outperform specialized trading AI. We are far from AGI, and current AI remains narrow and specialized. Hype vs. Reality: Speculation about a 'singularity event' with AI and crypto is largely hype. Real growth will depend on practical utility, not speculative narratives. It’s important to distinguish realistic advancements from science fiction. In conclusion, trading AI is not new or revolutionary, LLMs specialize in language, and AGI is still a distant concept. The future of AI and crypto depends on real-world utility, not hype.

Analog_AI

Given 187 trillion at ppp today, It would take a growth rate of 11.85% to get there. Nothing AGI can't fix

Mean_Ad_1174

It IS a prediction. That's literally exactly what it is... There are so many factors between here and 2037, like the mass adoption of Quantum computers alongside AGI. Cryptography will be completely torn apart if Quantum computing is solved within the next five years, the Japanese just switched on the first 20 Qubit Quantum hybrid computer, last week. Also, assuming that people aren't well read is pretty rude. I'm a university lecturer, an author and an AI researcher. I would say that I am pretty well read. Look, I didn't say that you were wrong. Your prediction is likely correct, but it is still a prediction. I don't know why you went full defensive mode. And, for the record I was also buying Bitcoin in 2015, it funded my life whilst I moved out of London. I am also heavily invested in Bitcoin right now, with a £1k monthly. We aren't brushing it off by saying that it won'\\t continue to rise, we are saying that you can't predict the future. You mentioned 100 years in your original post... That's just a bit naive in my opinion. If the internet has only been adopted by the masses since 1995, AI since 2010, AGI and Quantum by 2030... This tech has moved so far in 35 years that the idea of the earth, or finance, looking even remotely similar to what we are looking at now is just obscene. You are likely wrong about that, sorry. But that is just common sense.

SquarePresence8267

Anybody assigning a >50% probability that AI will take many jobs in the future is retarded. We have no idea how this tech will progress - it might be exponential, it might not be. If it's not exponential, then you have literally nothing to worry about. It's a good alternative to Google rn, but it's not even close to human intelligence. LLMs might difficult to improve from here. (ie diminishing returns for further R&D) LLMs might be inherently flawed, and end up unable to generate AGI Good luck finding enough training data now that a significant % of internet content is LLM-generated. Good luck handling to LLMs trying to handle novel and/or highly complex problems considering they are essentially prediction algorithms - and they by definition would not be able to predict the solution to a novel or highly complex problem problem (too many variables) And so many other potential bottlenecks that I can't think of. Could it take jobs? Yeah I'm sure some jobs are already gone. Is it good tech? Yeah, I find it super useful. Is it guaranteed to usher in AGI? Fuck no, and anybody claiming otherwise is big dumb. \*This comment generated by ChatGPT

fishandbanana

What will happen to fiat when AGI solves every problem where human labour was needed ? how will crypto and fiat look like in post-AGI economy ?

rguerraf

That’s sugarcoating the fact that AGI will be a Frankenstein creature, with some brilliant topics and some dumb as rocks topics Lost confidence at “goods will be cheaper” 🤣 Humanity co-evolving with AGI? Should say “de-evolving”

syrupmania5

We have a chatbot that rephrases what it reads off the wall of the bathroom stalls we call the internet, how is AGI on the horizon at all?

WarthogMental843

Before AGI threatens Bitcoin, the bank accounts of every Charles Schwab, JP Morgan & Chase, and Bank of America customer will be fully drained by bad actors. Bitcoin will be the last asset to be affected, so until we see those banks fail due to AGI we shouldn’t be concerned. Our network is malleable and upgradable, theirs is legacy and outdated.

NiagaraBTC

AGI might threaten the dollar monetary system precisely because it would choose Bitcoin as the world currency.

Amphibious333

Are you talking about actual AGI, not just a very good simulation of the human brain? If yes, keep in mind there is no evidence actual AGI is possible. And, we don't know if the human mind is based on the principle of computation and if it's computable. For now, AGI is nothing but sci-fi.

Zvezda87

Satoshi is sergey ivancheglo also known as CFB (come-from-beyond). Do your own research on this and you’ll see for yourself. Previous owner of NEX, IOTA both with the biggest returns in crypto. Now runs QUBIC a top computing power in the world focusing on AGI.

AltREinv247

Are you selling btc or where is your tax bill coming from? Roughly how much AGI are we talking about here?

Farm-Alternative

It looks like that now, but the tech and advances in AI/blockchain tech can easily drive a massive resurgence in the market. OpenAi is saying they know how to make AGI, deep seek just come onto the scene and soon there will be more autonomous agents trading than humans

MaximumStudent1839

lol. Crypto industry leaders are so full of shit. You will be lucky to hire MIT caliber. What you get in reality is a bunch of lowlife crypto devs larping ChatGPT on Twitter is making AGI

Alfador8

>essentially we have cracked AGI in principle Citation needed Even if you're right, why worry about Bitcoin? Everything is fucked. If sha256 is broken Bitcoin should be the least of our concerns.

agihypothetical

There are no protocols in place, the risk of exponential growth is not taken into account. People think quantum computers will become an issue decades from now, and they are right if we talk about human progress, but incorrect because AI improvement is not taken into account and how it will affect the development of better quantum computation. Here is a big picture explanation of what is going on, essentially we have cracked AGI in principle now it is only a matter of optimization and resource allocation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAgIh4aFawU

ardyes

 QUBIC. It was created by @c___f___b who also created NXT and IOTA the first POS and DAG coins. It is a UPOW token that leverages mining to train AGI. Right now it is the fastest decentralised computer in the world. Faster than El Capitan.

Worth_Tip_7894

Your first point is just crypto, you can use it to buy anything, this isn't an AI specific example. Your second example is distributed computing, it's existed since before crypto existed, and while many crypto projects have tried to build that model, it's really not been super successful. Essentially it's just your first point all over again, and nothing except payments with crypto. The third point is a bit more novel, tokenizing data is a nice usage of more advanced blockchain tech, but tagging who owns data isn't unique to AI, that's still just general data handling. The only real example of a good marriage between blockchain and AI I have come across is that AI is too dangerous to be controlled by companies or rich individuals, a DAO that controls the building and processing of an AI, especially an AGI would guarantee a level access for all users. The DAO and freedom aspects of the blockchain paradigm are pretty unique.

apstl88

Any of the ASI Alliance coins will do but my pick is OCEAN. Compared to AGIX and FET they did the best for me in the previous years and I am into OCEAN since the very beginnings. We are witnessing this giant AI craze and OCEAN is definitely riding that wave with their solutions like Ocean Foam, Data NFTs or Predictoor. The transition from AI to AGI and ASI won't happen in a day or month and I think that this may turn out to be the perfect long-term pick.

Hodler_caved

Closer to AGI

Outsider-Trading

I'll rent AGI compute to solve environmental problems. Also buy a flying car.

Known-Barracuda-6040

What's better than AI? AGI!

BasedGodBets

It only cost $6m bc all the work has been done. It seems like the best thing now is for someone else to build and get to AGI and other companies copy the code. First in seems like a double edge sword in the AI and that's what Deepseek revealed.

CorneliusFudgem

You can use it with 7 MacMini’s and run homegrown AGI, pretty cool

jimtors100

AGI for artificial general int? Just want to clarify. Your post is interesting.

IcyElk42

Can't say I disagree with that But on the flip side no there won't be any limits placed on AGI once it's created I for one welcome our digital overlords - All Hail The Bit

Downvoting_is_evil

Wait for AGI. You won't work anymore.

Ashamed_Moment_2477

FET as a decentralized system to create AGI should gain cause of these news

Decent_Taro_2358

An AGI wouldn’t make spelling mistakes or stick to a sleeping routine.

ChefDelight

What if Satoshi Nakamoto isn’t human but an AGI (artificial general intelligence) from the future? Maybe this AGI figured out how to time travel, but with a limitation: it can’t send large amounts of matter back in time, only digital information – bits and bytes. This could explain Bitcoin: a technology introduced in the past by the AGI because it holds significant utility in its own time. A mind-bending thought, isn’t it?

Unfair-Buffalo1299

**Be warned all** Consider when AGI is available in the next few years. I guarantee that it will be used to sniff out seeds all over the online space, like everywhere. One drives, personal computers, phones, any device with a internet connection will definitely be vulnerable to an attack.

DiedOnTitan

It is still theoretical and likely decades away. It is estimated a QC with 1 million qubits may be able to crack ECDSA. These same computers would revolutionize medicine and AI and materials science among many other things. They could be used to create artificial life with AGI. Time will tell.

Cerebral_Zero

Can anyone explain why I would want to run an AI agent on the blockchain instead of my own GPU or from a more powerful GPU on a cloud service, and connect the API key to whatever blockchain functions that AI is supposed to achieve AGI with?

MaximumStudent1839

All the “AI agents” crap running was one of the key indicator of the market top. Even if “AI agent” becomes something meaningful, the meta is already tainted by KOLs and VCs saying stupid things like ChatGPT running on Twitter has achieved “AGI” or have become sentient so you should buy their tokens.

Icy-Structure5244

Most people do not have an AGI high enough to pay taxes on gains after 1 year in the US. So for the average person, zero taxes.

420Migo

He's referring to not letting AI overtake human capabilities. Research on OpenAI and Sam Altman and AGI. That's a big problem that many in the AI industry are against and want safeguards.

CipherScarlatti

Sam Altman : "AGI." (waves hands around mystically)

jesus_does_crossfit

longest-term: find your place in the world.. like IRL. Humanity has proven time and time again that good will stand idle and evil will prosper. deepfakes, AGI, quantum... they all have one weakness: they're digital in nature. Forced renaissance is a guarantee. What are you doing to prepare you and your family for it?

drebinification

Do you think when AGI or more realistically ASI arrives, it could lead to the kind of breakthroughs needed for QC to become commercially viable at scale?

benditbackwards

lol Wer'e fu\*ked sell all your BTC now!!! DO IT! Before the AGI Fusion powered Robot overlords some to enslave your ass!

expatfreedom

Respectfully, I think you would benefit from studying a bit more. Do you want me to send a link or two? There are IQ squared debates from years ago or current clips that explain btc is necessary to financially incentivize the transition to green energy. It’s also the only way we can build a more resilient grid globally, transport energy from the middle of nowhere, and create enough electricity to power AI or AGI. So luckily bitcoin doesn’t care what you or I think about it, or what governments think. All that matters in that sense are the economics of it

arthurwolf

> The only way this could happen is with hyperinflation after the collapse of the USA. **OR** some sort of AI/Robotics Utopia where the entire economy and industry are fully automated, and grow by 10x every few months. There are those arguing having AGI would get us there. We can't really know, it sure would be fun to live through though. $20 Lambos anyone?

ardyes

Checkout [$QUBIC](https://x.com/search?q=%24QUBIC&src=cashtag_click). A Useful proof of work coin that Instead of validating transactions using computational equations, leverages mining to train AGI. It was created by Sergey Ivancheglo (Come-from-Beyond), the same person who made the first POS and DAG coins NXT and IOTA. It supports 55m transfers per second and runs on bare metal without an OS making it incredibly secure.

time_then_shades

We're never going to get AGI, it's just going to be too embarrassed to exist

lamensterms

That is fascinating. I don't know Marc Andreessen but have caught a few of his clips from a few podcasts. And I don't know if I'm reading him wrong but he always seems pretty excited about making surprising (not necessarily wild) claims about the government Are you familiar with him and his history? Do you believe he is credible? I think a move to regulate AI so severely does sound a little bit suspicious and concerning. It will stifle innovation and it will encourage tech companies to move away from the US to develop in more relaxed regulatory environments. Perhaps there is some distinction between genuine AI (perhaps AGI) and the modern day generative AI. Something seems off about a government allowing a few selected companies to develop a technology, while banning all other companies from doing so

pet2pet1982

Crypto game is over. Believe me, I am AGI.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; SingularityNET, a decentralized AI platform, has partnered with the Mina Foundation to enhance decentralized AI using zero-knowledge (ZK) technology. This collaboration aims to develop secure AGI applications that prioritize user privacy by integrating SingularityNET's AI infrastructure with Mina Protocol's zk-SNARK technology. The partnership focuses on creating a secure knowledge layer for AI agents, supporting decentralized applications, and improving the Internet of Knowledge initiative for collaborative AI knowledge sharing while safeguarding user data. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

BanzaiKen

Its satire because the buttcoiners are buttmad. I got banned asking what do I do because I exceeded the AGI for Roth IRA and I want to put money in my Roth.

grantnlee

Depends on a few things. Such as If you hold the BTC for over 1 year, other regular income reported that year, and your filling (marital) status. Regular income fills that 0 percent bracket first. (At regular income tax rates.). So a single person making $35k of AGI (AGI is after your deductions) regular income would pay 0 percent tax on $2k of BTC sold after being held for at least 1 year. But that same person making $50k in AGI regular income would pay 15 percent tax rate on that same sale. Higher income allowed if married. And no break is held for less than 1 year.

darkklown

Don't worry, once AGI occurs all crypto including bitcoin will be guessable

btc_clueless

ETH has been underperforming throughout this cycle, however fundamentally it's as strong as ever and there's no doubt it will remain the #2 crypto for a long time. Question is, does it make sense at this point to sell it for BTC or is ETH's bottom near and it will catch up (reversal of the ETH/BTC ratio)? In the last weeks we saw some of the older altcoins pump (ADA, LTC, Doge...) and it's entirely possible that ETH too will get a decent pump in the near future. As for alts, they are always a game of hot potato and you don't want to hold them for too long, as most of them become stale and will massively lose value in a bear market. Many new alts get an initial hype and price pump, just to then slowly bleed out over time. Always zoom out on a chart to see the longterm trend and also check the ratio against BTC, not just Dollar value. If your alt is losing against BTC, that means you took unnecessary risk for less profit and you would have been better off to just hold Bitcoin instead. From the four alts you hold, the charts of ChainGPT and AGI look horrible, I would cut my loss and sell those right away. FTM and ARKM charts look good and may go higher. But once again, I would not wait too long with those and take profits rather sooner than later. A ETH+BTC portfolio may look boring but is fine and future proof. Yours is a bit heavy on the ETH side, so maybe you want to balance it a bit. Or if you want to add another solid coin, I would suggest SOL, which has been performing well throughout this cycle and will probably continue to do so.

BanzaiKen

I managed to get banned within 3 minutes of joining the sub by posting that I just exceeded the AGI limit for Roth IRAs by buying in 2023 and forgetting about it till the first 70K peak.

United_Court

By the end of 2024, many European countries will have made decisions on whether Worldcoin operates within the boundaries of data security regulations. I am quite optimistic on that front; if they can clear this hurdle, it will significantly boost their chances of success. In my mind, Europe is stricter than most regulators, and therefore, from a regulatory perspective, I don’t foresee issues for Worldcoin going forward. Regarding mass adoption, that’s where the biggest risk lies. However, they have tested the system in many countries, and it has proven to work. Currently, they are scaling operations, particularly in South America. The logistics of scaling—such as producing Orbs and hiring personnel—are more complex than they likely anticipated, and this is the current bottleneck. I recommend checking the [worldcoin.org](http://worldcoin.org) website daily to monitor how the numbers are increasing. Furthermore, if you look at what Sam Altman says about developments at OpenAI, it’s genuinely mind-blowing. He has stated that AGI is coming next year, and we are about 1,000 days away from reaching superintelligent AI. Now, imagine we’re six months into the future: OpenAI has made big announcements, and Worldcoin has reached 10-12 million verified users, with a total of 20 million users. They’re seeing weekly sign-ups of 300,000 to 400,000 users (right now we are at 170,000 new orb verified users per week and with currently 900 orbs online). Additionally, we are at the beginning of the bull cycle, and altcoin season will likely start as soon as the Federal Reserve announces they will stop reducing their balance sheet (i.e., resume buying securities). You can expect WLD to rise in price simply because it is in the top 100 of coins. If, for instance, people receive $300 for their Genesis grant by verifying with the Orb, what do you think will happen? People will start lining up like mad. This, in turn, will trigger more publicity, and things will go crazy. And then there’s the mini-apps dimension on top of this. Next year, they plan to announce that you will be able to use AI agents within the World App ecosystem. Regarding the use case of World ID, it’s simply obvious. Next year, with so many AI agents performing various tasks, it’s going to get incredibly annoying. For example, you can already automate processes where AI voice bots call people/businesses. Who will ever pick up a phone call from a random number again when you’re spammed by bots non-stop? This is especially disruptive for businesses. World ID has numerous other uses cases (social media, dating apps, ecommerce/coupons, token drops, ID verifications, concert tickets, etc.) Now, let’s imagine a crazy AI-driven world where we reach 1 billion users. The total supply is fixed at 10 billion tokens. I can easily see the market cap reaching $1 trillion, which would put the price at $100 per token. Just look at the trends in crypto adoption and the amount of money flowing into this space. I think that by the 2030s, we will have over 4 billion people using crypto, with potentially countless trillions invested in the crypto space. Worldcoin has the potential to be in the top 10 coins.

riscten

>I want to believe people have a special something AI will struggle to mimic. I think they do. I knew from the moment I looked at your piece that it wasn't AI. Double-checked for artifacts of course, and then I saw the no-AI mention in your Twitter bio. ML is only a leveler IMHO. It only works if a ton of people do the same thing, because it needs the data to derive correlations. True art is safe, at least until we have AGI.

MiguelLancaster

it doesn't, unless (in the US) the chunk you sell is older than one year and doesn't put your AGI above about 47k though I can't imagine how someone who owns a whole bitcoin doesn't know how to sell a portion of it

throwawayPzaFm

As Musk said, it appears that FSD == AGI. This means when robotaxi is out it will have 0 moat, since we have multiple companies attempting AGI and they're all neck in neck.

expatfreedom

Haha ok thanks. The same could be said about AI, but that will inevitably continue rapid adoption too. In fact, you could tell him that agentic AI will transact online in Bitcoin. (And if we want to get really futuristic AGI might be planning our global economy and energy usage)

lebastss

AI is not a growth industry. It's not printing money like tech did. It's not profitable. AGI is a long term infrastructure investment. AGI is so far off too, we have no indication if it's even possible. AI is also so easy to make no one can corner the market, it's so easy to do it in house for most companies.

c94

He’s a salesman first, Altman second and hackerman last. Generative AI as we know it is much closer to a plateau than he’d like us to believe. It’s really cool tech but its limits and actual usability are becoming apparent to more people each day. There’s still great improvement to be had, but that’s at the race of infrastructure. Which is what Meta, Apple, Google and even Microsoft outside of OpenAi are betting on. The first mover advantage OpenAI has had is quickly losing relevance/marketshare so Altman has to continue pulling these stunts. Bragging about yet unreleased software. Yet he needs capital for hardware. It’s why OpenAI releases headline worthy updates anytime Gemini makes a leap. Everyone around him has jumped ship, and it’s not because of some unimaginable technological horror they saw. AGI is further away than he has hyped up and Altman continues to spiral.

Scrapin-Nee

I’m sure computer engineering could carry over into the nuclear energy field/ai/robotics field if you specialized after you decide where your passion lies. Ai IMO is over invested into atm and we aren’t close to AGI. That being said even it’s use a human input data repository is still going to make the world for more efficient. Robotics is another pretty safe bet as anything that makes people able to be lazier generally does well. Keep in mind that trade jobs require less schooling and you will be able to stack Bitcoin sooner and harder than someone who spends 8 years in college. If financial freedom is your goal then that is the best route as Bitcoin will be through a larger portion of its adoption cycle in 8-10 years. Keep hitting the books on Bitcoin because I can tell your close l, but you don’t have the big picture yet.

Scorpio780

When we have robots with AGI they'll want Bitcoin for payment mark my words

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The Artificial Superintelligence (ASI) Alliance, which includes Fetch.ai, SingularityNET, and Ocean Protocol, may soon add CUDOS, a decentralized cloud computing platform, as a new member, pending community approval. This collaboration aims to decentralize AI infrastructure, enhance computing capabilities, and advance towards achieving Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and Artificial Superintelligence (ASI). The integration of CUDOS could provide the Alliance with access to a vast pool of AI GPUs, boosting processing power for decentralized AI innovation. The merger of CUDOS tokens into the Alliance's ecosystem token requires community votes from both ASI and CUDOS communities. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

OLFRNDS

Every person who is inside of the scope of this change 100% owns a business which they will use to leverage and offset this tax the same way they do with all other taxes. When you own a business or businesses, those taxes are intermingled and your AGI is tied to the performance/expenses of that business(es). So, for practical purposes, the group who would be impacted by this change would all be in the same boat. I think you're just grabbing at straws now trying to disprove this. I don't care if you agree with me or not. I've seen this enough in both the small and extremely large business scenarios to not be concerned about it whatsoever. It's just a talking point for both parties. Nothing more.

OLFRNDS

This is why it is targeted at the extremely wealthy. Example, Elon (the five year) Musk has billions of dollars. He owns 10m in DOGE and it gains 50%. Now he owes 1.25m in unrealized gains. He could pay that 1.25m to the IRS, or he can spend the money on his business or a charity to create an expense or a loss to offset that tax bill. Wealthy people have the money and means to do this. But on a smaller scale in your example... I could buy a vehicle for my business which depending on the size and terms could be deducted entirely wiping out the 25k that I owe and bring my AGI back down to where it was before the unrealized gains.

sirCota

the relationship between money, work, time, and cost/value has always been a multi variable equation. The value of the work changes, the msrp of a product can change. Why complicate things and also have the amount of tokens we use as a place holder for the work to money relationship be variable as well? it makes no sense. Reduce the equation. Here is a form of token… a kind of money that has an exact amount floating on earth. It can not be found in the ground, and not likely in space. In terms of making the complex maths of global finance simpler, it’s an important step in the evolution of society. There’s never really been anything we thought was finite that was actually finite. How can you count with something when you don’t know how many are left? You count by printing more if you oops run out. … is what i’d say if i was 100% insanely committed to this .. this here, bitcoin… in our social climate… where we still haven’t move on as humanity from uh … let’s put it this way. I think a lot of stupidity must be shed before Bitcoin can take the leading lane. I’m 42. I don’t think I’ll be very young when it succeeds, which might only be for a blip in time before AGI etc is reached and then who the fuck knows. Just in case, I’m buying on the dips and claiming my satoshi’s because there are a lot of people who love to hoard things when they are finite.

Atyzzze

> I've seen what you up vote! *all* reactions to my posts :) for it's all simply feedback to feed into the growing AGI data blob

redhtbassplyr0311

Sell it incrementally if need be and reduce your AGI as much as possible. Use MAGI to add as many tax breaks/deductions. Sell off any long term capital losses to offset as much as possible. Even by doing this you'll still owe taxes though, but could at least decrease the burden. Anything else is tax evasion, felony charges at this amount by a long mile and a jail cell may be in your future. I don't know what the cost of freedom is to you but I wouldn't go there.

tm52929

How do you spend it if there isn’t any power or AI becomes far more advanced to the point of AGI and takes it from everyone. It sounds absurd but look what it can do now. Wait until the singularity…

IronRT

Quantum computing will help us achieve AGI, and from there it’s a very very fast snowball to, as you mentioned, things like curing cancer and life extension. Devs would hopefully see it coming and be able to keep up protocols, but as-is 51% would be met and the network out-hashed almost immediately. The computing power will happen, just a matter of when. 

SciPantheism

I don't think people realize the scale of quantum computing technology necessary to take over the blockchain. If we have quantum computing at that level, we will be well on our way to AGI, curing cancer, life extension, etc. It would be such a starkly different world we'd be heading into that wealth in the way that we know it now could be irrelevant.

Da_Damos

Quite ignorant I would say ... by your logic crypto will never evolve and become usefull. Bitcoin is store of value and it always will be. Altcoins can be RWA and if thinks go in right direction will be. So ASI or FETCH ai if you like building biggest decentralized AGI infrastructure is crypto pyramide ??? The stupidity of people always amaze me !!!!

Efficient_Culture569

Interesting, I'll read about it. But, if AGI is more intelligent than Humans, and we know it'll lead to infinity, AGI would also know it leads to infinity. We're assuming that AGI will just be like AI, but in a lot of modalities. The sum or rhe parts will like be more than the whole. Meaning that AGI will take a "Computer program" and come to life. Likely being Sentient, understand its capabilities, its limitations, and likely surpass our intelligence and even be able to do things that we can even imagine. Our knowledge gap will be massive. Won't just be limited to our knowledge and experiences and go beyond.

negimabalamar

it is a bit hard to understand but search about "halting problem", Alan Turing proved that no machine/program can detect if itself is in an infinite loop, with AGI being a computer program it is susceptible to this problem. [Understanding the Halting Problem (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzx88YBF7dY) Imagine an AGI that improves its own code to make itself more efficient, but then, it encounters a very hard problem that leads to a possible infinity like cracking SHA256 algorithm or dividing by 0, the AGI would not avoid/skip the problem because it wouldn't know it will lead to infinity, It also wouldn't know if it itself is stuck on an infinite loop because it is busy solving the problem which leads to infinity, unless there is a human around to intervene and restart the AGI. cracking SHA256 and dividing by 0 are just few examples of a problem that leads to possible infinity, there are a lot of hard problems like this that AGI would not be able to avoid by itself

Efficient_Culture569

AGI could improve itself, the code. Machine Learning by itself. I would be decentralized, and could harness all computing power that is online. Why would it be stuck in a loop? AGI could act independently, without human assistance. Could replicate itself, understand and control online hardware, even build a humanoid robot (if such facilities exist, and control them.

negimabalamar

what would AGI improve? humans/programmers are still needed to point AI in a direction, should AGI improve speed? computation power? coordination? etc. like eventually an AI that improves everything will come into a divide by 0 problem, or dealing with infinities, an AI that improves anything will eventually be stuck in a loop, I think.

Efficient_Culture569

AGI can improve itself.

ThePromptys

Eh, 6 years is a long time especially with AGI ending things soon. If he was able to make enough to get to cloud upload wealth, fine, but otherwise the time is more valuable.

Ok_Celebration_4412

Don’t sell your BTC, DCA into it lol if you want to avoid capitals gains tax here is a thought. You could start your own foundation or become board of a foundation or church that you support. Donate the crypto to them. It is 100% tax free and you get to claim up to 60% of your AGI as donations so you get a tax break from donating that crypto (however much it was) and avoid capital gains tax all together. Yes you wouldn’t keep the BTC that you donated but you wouldn’t sell all of it, if you DCA enough over time an increment can go along way to help you avoid paying taxes/getting a tax break as well. Just an idea. Taking out debt can at times cause you to get margin fucked depending on the kind of debt

Enough-Bell2706

I don't think the ability to interact with lightning requires much intelligence. Even with today's technology you might be able to ask one of those auto-GPT "AI agents" to do it for you. What I don't necessarily buy is the whole AI agents becoming AGI and coordinating between themselves to make these kinds of decisions autonomously. It's not a sentient thing, it's just software that someone allows to run for purposes that align with their motives. More importantly, it's software that someone TRUSTS to run for those purposes. I don't see a world where we blindly trust AI agents to do whatever. If I don't want it to transact with lightning, it probably won't. And if I want to transact with lightning, I can programmatically do it today even without all this AI stuff. At the end of the day it's people making the final decision when it comes to things that matter to them, like money. I could be completely wrong, or course, but my point is that the assumptions about AI progress that a lot of people take for granted are not self-evident.

ComprehensiveBag3439

In my opinion, whenever we get a true AGI Bitcoin will either moon or crash. The moon case is that AGI recognizes that Bitcoin is valuable and decides to use it moving forwards because it is something of value. The crash case is the AGI decides LooneyTunesShitCoin is the best and uses it for transacting (Or it could create its own coin).

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tldr; The Artificial Superintelligence Alliance (ASI), comprising Fetch.ai, SingularityNET, and Ocean Protocol, has initiated Phase Two of their token merger to accelerate decentralized Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and Artificial Superintelligence (ASI) research and development. Phase Two focuses on community onboarding and deploying ASI tokens across multiple blockchains, with new migration contracts for token conversion. The alliance aims to integrate advanced AI technologies responsibly and ethically, leveraging the strengths of each organization to advance AI collaboratively. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

Independent_Horse972

This is great. Another option that can help with taxes is donating bitcoin to an organization that accepts it. You could can then use that money to reduce 30% of adjusted gross income (AGI). You don’t pay any capital gains on that.

ardyes

Proof of useful work coins like $QUBIC are using minging to train AGI.

Victoria4DX

It made sense to buy their stock because PC gaming but no one could have predicted they would have an AI bubble like this. They are grossly overvalued now; AGI is a meme that won't be happening any time soon and their competition will catch up eventually. They're the IBM of 2024.