SA

hoya_doing

Believe it or not, the name Satoshi Nakamoto derived from the NSA acronym. **NSA** = **N SA** = **N**akamoto **SA**toshi

NoVegas0

Ive been staying a few coins on CDC earn program for a few years now. CDC makes a ton of money off of trades, chances are they wont disappear tomorrow. Their Earn program pays out once a week and into your crypto wallet, so you have to adding it back to Earn to compound your interest. there is also a minimum deposit into the earn program. with flex, the 0.10% SA is about what you would get even with the best BTC Defi protocol. Bear market and all. I have soem Cro locked up with CDC, allowing me to earn some bonus CRO while staking my BTC. This is why i choose to keep my BTC on CDC earn vs Defi methods.

nadhsib

Small Bitcoin mines can be immediately profitable, and can therefore fund a renewable minigrid and supply power to the community at no cost. And, if this seems too good to be true, it gets even better. First, some numbers, and they are pretty shocking. According to the International Energy Agency, 600 million Africans (43%) have no access to electricity. Neither are they likely to get access to electricity. Why? Because it is expensive to erect pylons, string cable and build substations to distribute electricity to small communities or villages in far-flung areas – the capex costs overwhelm the return, especially given the light demand in areas without industrial activity of any kind. This means the only way to electrify those areas is with minigrids powered by renewables, usually between 20kW and 1MW, depending on the size of the community. But here, too, are many challenges. A recent paper by The Green Africa Mining Alliance lays out the scale of the task. “… \[T\]he number of minigrids in Africa needs to grow from 3,100 in 2021 to 160,000 in 2030, more than 50 times over nine years, with a cumulative investment of $91-billion by 2030. “If the current pace of minigrid development continues, only about 44,800 minigrids will be installed by 2030, serving only around 80 million people in Africa.” We first have to recognise some of the economic peculiarities of renewable minigrids in rural areas. One is that community demand peaks from 6-9pm when the sun goes down. So the grid has to be “overbuilt” to handle that critical period. While consumption is likely to grow over time as energy-consuming businesses start to cluster around the available energy, the initial period of the build and deployment is at the apex of financial risk, with high upfront costs to satisfy community peak demand and then a long and unpredictable wait for new business customers to come on to the grid and pay for it. Commercially minded investors take one look at this equation and quietly leave the room. This means that the only way to electrify these underserved communities is to rely on development/aid institutions or governmental “universal” access programmes to fund renewable-powered minigrids. But, sadly, most governments in Africa do not have the fiscus, nor will nor execution capacity. Most development institutions are both stretched across many demands and extremely slow to move from aspiration to funding. Worse, they are often subject to the whims of politics. In short, whatever help is coming to these communities is nothing more than a dribble, consigning hundreds of millions to lives of exclusion. It is no surprise that many of the minigrid initiatives promised on paper for decades have simply withered on the vine. An answer There is a solution to all of this, and the calculus is simple. The first piece of the calculus is that rural communities are often close to rivers, a critical natural resource for poor, underserved, under-employed and mainly subsistence communities. Additionally, Africa benefits from an abundance of sunlight over most of the continent. Two rich, renewable energy resources, almost entirely stranded and unused – solar and hydro. The critical second item of the calculus is the lack of an anchor tenant who will buy electricity reliably and hungrily, such as a large industrial plant. Sadly, such businesses have no reason to come to these places. So what is going to use the stranded renewable energy, and happily pay for the renewable minigrids from flowing water and abundant sunlight, powering up surrounding structures with lights and TVs and ovens and chargers? Bitcoin mines, that’s what. Bitcoin mines need power to run. Even small mines can run profitably if the power is cheap. And in this case, the power is free – from unexploited renewable sources. A single container of computers running Bitcoin mining software can be profitable because the only real cost is electricity. The other costs (the machines, the air-conditioning, the cables, the solar panels or water turbines) are negligible by comparison. Small Bitcoin mines can be immediately profitable, and can therefore fund a renewable minigrid and supply power to the community at no cost. And, if this seems too good to be true, it gets even better. The Bitcoin mines can reduce their consumption at the flick of a remote switch, making them perfect load balancers for the 6-9pm spike, or any other reason. Why does this seem like magic? Because standard energy demand requires the transport of power to population centres to find a consumption market (both citizens and industry); it is they who pay for the electricity which funds generation and distribution. That is the way it works, even for big renewable projects – their electrons end up mainly flowing to population centres. But Bitcoin mines are happy to churn away far from cities and towns, quietly securing crypto transactions and producing revenue. Bitcoin mines are unlike any other industry. They can live anywhere. And, if the energy is stranded, uncontested and free, you have a perfect marriage where everyone benefits – the community, the investors, even the Bitcoin bros. Unlike any other buyer of bulk electricity, Bitcoin mines are a buyer of first resort (when no one else is buying), a buyer of last resort (when there is no other demand) and a grid balancer of last resort, keeping the grid stable at all times. No other energy-consuming enterprise has this profile. Bitcoin mines have been slowly moving into this space, with multiple projects under way (with companies like Bitcoin Lake in Rwanda and Gridless in Nigeria). It can only accelerate – they are extremely fast to set up and face fewer regulatory hurdles than larger renewable initiatives which feed into a national grid. This is a delicious irony, given the number of furious and outraged column inches dedicated to Bitcoin’s energy usage over the past couple of years, when in fact it is likely to be part of the solution for the rural poor, excluded and energy deprived. DM Steven Boykey Sidley is a professor of practice at JBS, University of Johannesburg. His new book, It’s Mine: How the Crypto Industry is Redefining Ownership, published by Maverick451 in SA and Legend Times Group in the UK/EU, is available now.

polloponzi

Small Bitcoin mines can be immediately profitable, and can therefore fund a renewable minigrid and supply power to the community at no cost. And, if this seems too good to be true, it gets even better. The surprising, simple answer to Africa’s rural energy problems – Bitcoin mining The surprising, simple answer to Africa’s rural energy problems – Bitcoin mining © Copyright (c) Daily Maverick , All Rights Reserved First, some numbers, and they are pretty shocking. According to the International Energy Agency, 600 million Africans (43%) have no access to electricity. Neither are they likely to get access to electricity. Why? Because it is expensive to erect pylons, string cable and build substations to distribute electricity to small communities or villages in far-flung areas – the capex costs overwhelm the return, especially given the light demand in areas without industrial activity of any kind. This means the only way to electrify those areas is with minigrids powered by renewables, usually between 20kW and 1MW, depending on the size of the community. But here, too, are many challenges. A recent paper by The Green Africa Mining Alliance lays out the scale of the task. “… \[T\]he number of minigrids in Africa needs to grow from 3,100 in 2021 to 160,000 in 2030, more than 50 times over nine years, with a cumulative investment of $91-billion by 2030. “If the current pace of minigrid development continues, only about 44,800 minigrids will be installed by 2030, serving only around 80 million people in Africa.” We first have to recognise some of the economic peculiarities of renewable minigrids in rural areas. One is that community demand peaks from 6-9pm when the sun goes down. So the grid has to be “overbuilt” to handle that critical period. While consumption is likely to grow over time as energy-consuming businesses start to cluster around the available energy, the initial period of the build and deployment is at the apex of financial risk, with high upfront costs to satisfy community peak demand and then a long and unpredictable wait for new business customers to come on to the grid and pay for it. Commercially minded investors take one look at this equation and quietly leave the room. This means that the only way to electrify these underserved communities is to rely on development/aid institutions or governmental “universal” access programmes to fund renewable-powered minigrids. But, sadly, most governments in Africa do not have the fiscus, nor will nor execution capacity. Most development institutions are both stretched across many demands and extremely slow to move from aspiration to funding. Worse, they are often subject to the whims of politics. In short, whatever help is coming to these communities is nothing more than a dribble, consigning hundreds of millions to lives of exclusion. It is no surprise that many of the minigrid initiatives promised on paper for decades have simply withered on the vine. An answer There is a solution to all of this, and the calculus is simple. The first piece of the calculus is that rural communities are often close to rivers, a critical natural resource for poor, underserved, under-employed and mainly subsistence communities. Additionally, Africa benefits from an abundance of sunlight over most of the continent. Two rich, renewable energy resources, almost entirely stranded and unused – solar and hydro. The critical second item of the calculus is the lack of an anchor tenant who will buy electricity reliably and hungrily, such as a large industrial plant. Sadly, such businesses have no reason to come to these places. So what is going to use the stranded renewable energy, and happily pay for the renewable minigrids from flowing water and abundant sunlight, powering up surrounding structures with lights and TVs and ovens and chargers? Bitcoin mines, that’s what. Bitcoin mines need power to run. Even small mines can run profitably if the power is cheap. And in this case, the power is free – from unexploited renewable sources. A single container of computers running Bitcoin mining software can be profitable because the only real cost is electricity. The other costs (the machines, the air-conditioning, the cables, the solar panels or water turbines) are negligible by comparison. Small Bitcoin mines can be immediately profitable, and can therefore fund a renewable minigrid and supply power to the community at no cost. And, if this seems too good to be true, it gets even better. The Bitcoin mines can reduce their consumption at the flick of a remote switch, making them perfect load balancers for the 6-9pm spike, or any other reason. Why does this seem like magic? Because standard energy demand requires the transport of power to population centres to find a consumption market (both citizens and industry); it is they who pay for the electricity which funds generation and distribution. That is the way it works, even for big renewable projects – their electrons end up mainly flowing to population centres. But Bitcoin mines are happy to churn away far from cities and towns, quietly securing crypto transactions and producing revenue. Bitcoin mines are unlike any other industry. They can live anywhere. And, if the energy is stranded, uncontested and free, you have a perfect marriage where everyone benefits – the community, the investors, even the Bitcoin bros. Unlike any other buyer of bulk electricity, Bitcoin mines are a buyer of first resort (when no one else is buying), a buyer of last resort (when there is no other demand) and a grid balancer of last resort, keeping the grid stable at all times. No other energy-consuming enterprise has this profile. Bitcoin mines have been slowly moving into this space, with multiple projects under way (with companies like Bitcoin Lake in Rwanda and Gridless in Nigeria). It can only accelerate – they are extremely fast to set up and face fewer regulatory hurdles than larger renewable initiatives which feed into a national grid. This is a delicious irony, given the number of furious and outraged column inches dedicated to Bitcoin’s energy usage over the past couple of years, when in fact it is likely to be part of the solution for the rural poor, excluded and energy deprived. DM Steven Boykey Sidley is a professor of practice at JBS, University of Johannesburg. His new book, It’s Mine: How the Crypto Industry is Redefining Ownership, published by Maverick451 in SA and Legend Times Group in the UK/EU, is available now.

NoProfessional232

Yah it can happen again and this time SA will be prepared 😂

Seanb621

If they beat France I could easily see Ireland and SA going at it again in the final.

TarkovRedditor

Rate cuts + halving = ? 

NoProfessional232

Yah in SA crime is on steroids.....but again it depends on which area you stay.Otherwise it's a lovely country especially cape town it's so beautiful..great weather,good beaches and the scenery.

i_reddit_at_reddit

I've heard bad things about SA wrt crime, unemployment is super high. UK should be a good move for you, but costly I'd imagine. I'm an Aussie and haven't been to any of those places yet

OverallHearing5

I knew NA/CA/SA markets would sell off today. I think we have one more leg down to go, and then a takeoff towards the stars.

Harold838383

Awesome! So weird they’re so big in SA but don’t really exist in Victoria

azza_sg

I may needa move over then. Bank SA (part of the big 4) have given me nothing but trouble all year.

BluePul

Isn't this guy the psycho who said women who wear makeup basically "ask for it" when it come to SA?

nonameattachedforme

Deutsche Bank making waves too growing their partnership with Taurus SA to offer digital tokenization and custody. Along with their previous investments and application for a digital assets license in Germany, it's nice to see them staying fresh in the scene.

Spare_Photograph

I am honestly surprised MBS hasn't already demanded BTC in exchange for his oil. Why would he prefer fiat for his oil? Must be political reasons preventing him from doing so. He probably fears the wrath of the US Military who would need to bring "Freedom" quickly to SA.

CymandeTV

Let's make a battle Royale with SBF, DK, AM and SA.

theycallmekimpembe

“Bloomberg reported in April that Saudi Arabia, through its Public Investment Fund, invested $38 billion in the sector as it looks to become a global gaming hub.” That’s actually big news, especially as it’s SA and not Dubai for once.

RespondEfficient1343

Just say: SIM SA LA BIM .. the magic words will open it. #magic

Cool_As_Your_Dad

I live in South Africa. 33% is on the lower scale of unemployment. Most of the people in SA live of social grants from ANC government. They got 0 money for crypto...

Apprehensive_Leg9373

Yeah, definitely not 98 percent of the population. It's maybe 98 percent of people who visited that website who are from SA.

Scarecrow4980

I wonder hwo many have been scammed because they don't know better. a friend from SA has been scammed because she didn't know how to buy it herself so she gave money to someone else to buy it for her. wish she would have told me first so I could tell her NOOOOOOOO

PiyushChansolia

I think crypto can help SA by the people of country in making payments,storing value, and investing and growing their wealth.

Socialinfluencing

As someone with close ties to to SA yeah they may have heard of it but the country is so deep down the shitter currently that most people aren't thinking about anything other than survival. Unemployment rate sits at about 33% currently and last time I visited around 2010 it was already sitting at around 20-25%

jawni

I actually bought some squid ink pasta this summer that was blockchain certified. I had no idea until I was cooking with it and noticed it on the packaging. https://genuineway.io/italian-pasta-to-conquer-the-us-market-through-the-itemx-certification-tool/#:~:text=SOLITALY%2C%20a%20brand%20specializing%20in%20traditional%20Apulian,Way%20SA%20to%20conquer%20the%20US%20Market.

_MoonBot

**Round 43 stats for SA_Ichi** - Total Karma: `1525` karma - Ratio: `0.8728` Based on these stats, `u/SA_Ichi` should receive an estimated **~1331 MOON** on distribution day. ^(*estimate based on the snapshot data and is subject to change.*) --- ^(I am a bot 🤖)

gvictor808

How would SA military back SA currency? Is your currency accepted anywhere outside of SA? Honest question. I get the US argument since military projects globallly and usd has been global reserve, but don’t see SA argument.

TheStellarPharmacist

As an Egyptian, I really wish Salah does not go to SA.

uncapchad

Ask the peeps in Lugano, Switzerland or South Africa. BTC already accepted as payment with most retail services. I was in SA for 4 months and bought all my groceries using BTC. I'm sure there are more stories out there but these are the two I'm most familiar with. It's not as improbable as people feel it just takes effort to get the various parties to agree, including banks and governments.

Shippior

Lots of cheap hydro power are multiple locatins in SA as well

i_reddit_at_reddit

yep they are dogs. i transfer from one bank to another to CDC to Kucoin. I lost a bit in spread and fees along the way. I know Commonwealth have a block or a 24hr delay to some exchanges and they will not release the names. Bank SA appear to allow instant transfer. I believe NAB and Westpac also cause you problems. They are doing it under the guise of protecting you from scammers which is such fkn BS

Ralph_Nacho

Considering they just announced that dedollerization is not on the agenda your point is moot. That's just what China and Russia want, but not Brazil, SA, and India.

SmoothGoing

How odd that even a book about bitcoin from loud bitcoin maxi is not sold for bitcoin with payment through btcpayserver. WooCommerce "accepted" bitcoin. Sure it's some 3rd party book seller; SA himself is not shipping books individually out of his garage. I have doubts he's getting paid in bitcoin for this sale though.

Daily_Phoenix

Let's not support SA.... prison is bad enough. Especially for someone like him.

Stevenspielbergsnut

I live in SA and there's literally one at most cash express atms

M1ST3R_W1Z4RD

Many thanks for the warm welcome u/SA_Ichi

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i_reddit_at_reddit

Yep OTR in SA has some integration with CDC and you can pay with crypto

CymandeTV

I think SA is the next SBF.

notoriousbpg

I've met with SA a couple of times before in a work capacity. Not a scumbag.

joe17301

Woolworths is awesome. If you're ever in SA, it's a great place to get quality food and snacks :)

Nirbhik

Why does SA give me SBF vibes?

Podsly

And China. SA is also falling behind. This group of countries does not have enough reputation with other countries to sufficiently and transparently manage a currency. It's a pipe dream and largely is used by China and Russia to support the narrative that the West along with the USA is loosing it's power.

Four_Krusties

Hey, I remember the Bitcoin thread on SA too. The vast majority of opinion was shitting on it, calling it a bubble and a scam. I didn’t understand what the point was. Oh well.

Heraclius_3433

>sure you cannot turn in your usd and get oil like when usd was backed by gold That’s exactly what the definition of a “backed currency” is. Don’t tell me I need to do more research when you are changing the definitions of economic concepts. I fully understand the economics of the petrodollar and how countries like SA only accepting usd increases demand for usd which helps give more value to usd. That doesn’t mean the usd is “backed by energy”.

TarkovRedditor

All price action aside It’s beautiful to see news articles about moons 

OriginalIllustrator5

Que Miley, "it's a party in the U.SA"

kweabu

It helps offering accessibility, low fees, and stability. Ex: include the Philippines (13% ownership), SA (10%), Venezuela (10.3%), and Ukraine (10.3%), shows its role in financial inclusion and wealth preservation.

thesansmasher

I was in SA under a way diffevent username back then, and I just didn't "get" it when I looked into it. I got as far as finding Mg Gox or something, and got a major red flag from it. Never purchased or mined anything. Hindsight says yes I fucked up and should have went further, but also says I probably would have gotten ripped off as well.

HadMatter217

The vast majority of them are not people who knew about it back then. Saying that all of them are bitter because like 6 people on SA missed out is kind of ridiculous.

JustCryptastic

Wow … haven’t heard or even thought about SA in a longgggg time. I used to hang out there back in the 2002-2010 timeframe. It’s where I learned what a “cake fart” is and the Slender Man came from That alone tells me all I need to know about the cornerstone mentality of the buttcoin community. SA folks would have been way more into trolling the btc community for the giggles than really giving two shits about meaningful debate and logic. This also puts the buttcoin clan in more of a satire class more than one that is on a crusade against crypto

bvandepol

SA is on my list, for sure! And I hope to visit there once! I'm Dutch, so I hope Afrikaans isn't to hard to understand and vice versa. But a 100 moon tip is basically worth a day of labor, where I'm from the equivalent of $200-$300 depending on your job.. So that's great!

bvandepol

Just curious.. What's the average a person in SA has to spend monthly?!

atoothlessfairy

Just one simple question. Why isn't your website updated since 2021, it still shows © 2021 Nym Technologies SA, all rights reserved?

Murky-Setting-4643

Well I don't think SA is a poor country

kuznecovsmihails

Hey, I'm from SA great to see some countryman here hehe. Have a great day dude

bigoldbert23

I would hope that's the case. Seeing a speech by the President of Kenya recently where he urged African Nations to reject the filthy US dollar (well not quite those words, but he did say reject the dollar) and bitcoin adoption by El Salvador, and other SA countries looking deeply in to it, I'm optimistic. I still think the pain has to be severe for everyday folks to start looking for and demanding their governments look for an alternative.

Junior-Objective1322

Jesus, a world ran by Russia china and SA, no thanks

FunwitPfizer

So true, didn't SA recently ban protests or enable criminal convictions for certain protests. Democracy 🤔

Chang-San

The whales can happily go to an enemy of the US and establish systems that work there. It's what will eve tally happen with countries moving to deintegrate from the US centered finance world. If China is smart they will let Hong Kong be a center for crypto Russia, SA, Iran would be smart to use this to pull money and resources away from the states and lower the weaponization of the dollar that's been happening for the last 20+ years and greatly increased in the last 3.

errllu

83rd GDP, with 8k$ gdp per capita. Stats like russia lmao. Superpower my ass. Maybe in SA

wjean

Besides the sheer concept that these two counties will bankroll building a giant vacuum tight tube 500mi through the desert before their oil money dries out, let's take the one number you say they are claiming of 165m passengers between these two capitals annually. I went looking for tourism numbers SA. Home of mecca where every Muslim is supposed to visit once in Their lifetime, is aiming for 100m visitors from the entire world by 2030. This is 65% more than that for a single country. Abu Dhabi has a population of less than 3M The belief that there will be that many regular trips is pure hopium to drive a crypto pump Besides, noone would buy a ticket for a flight before the airports are built and the plane has been designed. Why should a magic internet money ticket be any different?

campsbayrich

It's not widespread here, but one of the big retailers is testing it, and there are a few people really pushing it forward (like Bitcoin eKasi). It's a great solution for SA where there are tons of really tiny transactions, and cash isn't that secure. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

TerraceTower

I'm not familiar with SA rules. You'll have to Google it or ask a lawyer.

MBA922

BRICS are forming a commodity-based currency. I would not trust their reserves any more than Fort Knox, but bitcoin as a settlement/transaction layer, if not as a commodity reserve, will be a smart addition with clear benefits over other commodities. Certainly, Russia/KSA can be relied on to come up with the oil part of the reserves they claim. SA with the gold/platinum. Brazil with oil and ethanol. China/India are simply rich enough to buy the commodities that may cause doubt. Still, btc is much cleaner settlement, than having credits with China who takes out credits on some other country's stated reserves. SWIFT is dead. Non-Brics will still have trade with Brics, and need payment/receipt system not subject to US confiscation.

whirlbloom

Where can you cash out to fiat in SA and Kenya if you don't mind me asking?

Halo22B

Yes SA is spiralling down the drain. .gov will become more authoritarian as it tries to hold on to at least appearance of modern Western civilization. I would be looking at exit strategies....good luck

SF-USSS

Special Agents are 1811's. We also have technical law enforcement and administrative, professional, technical of several series. SA's are nationwide, the others may be more specific to a particular field office. Set an alert on [usajobs.gov](https://usajobs.gov) or visit www.secretservice.gov/join

AncientProduce

Theyre already arguing and SA is being so badly run by tribalistic leaders that theyll either become a failed state.. officially, have a civil war or get their shit together and become a real country.

beinardus

You need to keep in mind that the most basic bitcoin transaction that spends only a part of the balance consists of 1 input and 2 outputs. One output is of someone you send to, the other output is your own and is used to receive the change (also known as the change address). If you spend part of the balance of a paper wallet, you need to be sure you know what the change address is, and make sure you have access to its private key. There is one option that is safe: Transfer the full balance to another wallet in a single transaction. This is also known as a "sweep". In theory you can reuse a paper wallet by setting the change address to that of the paper wallet. Some wallets still support this out of the box (i.e. Bitcoin SA in Mycelium) The part you qouted is about a hand crafted transaction that does not spend the full balance (the sum of all outputs). The remaining balance in that case is considered mining fee.

circleuranus

>I thought it would be a cold day in hell before the Saudis even sit in a room with Iranians but they're legitimately negotiating simply on grounds that the U.S. is getting annoying as hell, and they are getting poorer relative to us following it. I believe this is more due to the fact of the "Green initiatives" and clean energy push among 1st world countries and the fact that the US is quickly becoming oil independent. IMO, the Saudis see an end to the gravy train and are scrambling to reposition themselves in the global market with those still mostly reliant on oil. I expect you'll see SA cozy up to China and there will of course be more serious talks of quitting the "petrodollar".

relesabe

I expect to hear more of this SA guy in the near future. Not easy to innovate in Africa -- this fellow in someone of extremely rare intelligence and articulateness.

StewieGriffin26

Yeah but these 20 companies: Saudi Aramco, Chevron, Gazprom, ExxonMobil, National Iranian Oil Co, BP, Royal Dutch Shell, Coal India, Pemex, Petróleos de Venezuela, PetroChina, Peabody Energy, ConocoPhillips, Abu Dhabi National Oil Co, Kuwait Petroleum Corp, Iraq National Oil Co, Total SA, Sonatrach, BHP Billiton, Petrobras don't just operate because it's a fun hobby, they operate because someone is willing to buy their product or resource and the margins are good enough for a profit. They're doing it for money. Specifically consumers money. If you took away the demand of billions of people driving ICE vehicles everyday they would be out of business.

kingBitcoin420

Yes, when there are lots of transactions happening on bitcoin it will definitely be more expensive. For the moment I would recommend using Fiat to send money to relatives in Mexico or SA. Lightning network also has certain drawbacks to it as well, because it requires trust. When using lightning the phrase “verify don’t trust” kind of goes out the window. But to explain what exactly is happening right now it’s brc20 Tokens.

AutomatedAurora

Yah after weighing the options I decided not too stake. Still interesting hearing opinions about staking on a CEX. Sell when my price range hits and store it in my SA that has 3.75 APY. Not comfortable about waiting 2 weeks to receive my Eth in such a volatile market. Rode the waves multiple times. When my price point arrives I want to be able to move quickly if need be.

Unun_Pentium

Well, in the gold world, possession of physical coins and bars is the crypto equivalent of not your keys not your coins if you will. Sure, they say that paxg (for crypto) or IAU/GLD etc (for ETF’s) are backed by real gold…but in a SHTF scenario and everyone is going bust, will that gold really be there? Many have their doubts. I think for most people who want exposure, some combination of physical, paper/ETF and maybe crypto based gold works with the former for longer term hold and the latter 2 for trading or investment accounts. Standard for physical are 1 ounce coins (Canadian maple leafs, American gold eagle, SA krugerrand etc). But this is a crypto thread and good to know about products like paxg

lordofming-rises

Getting more diamonds as his family has mines already in SA

hateschoolfml

That’s exactly what’s it done over the last century, I expect it to go exponential now Doesn’t make sense 😂 they literally post it to rub in your face https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SA0R

69lana69

Costa Rica or some other SA country

Smile_lifeisgood

The buttcoin thread on SA is why I learned about BTC. I laughed at all the stuff and then when it went to $1500 I was like 'why tf didn't I mine some BTC - I knew about it from the beginning and it would have only cost me time.'

SatisfactionAny6545

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I run a full (Umbrel) node, lightning node and Pi-Hole on an Intel NUC (NUC7CJYHN) with a WD Blue SA510 1TB SSD and 8gb Ram. Total cost: EUR 214,80. Works like a charm.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The London Stock Exchange’s LCH division will offer clearing of bitcoin index futures and options contracts traded on GFO-X. Subject to regulatory approval, the contracts will be cash-settled through a newly created segregated clearing service called LCH Digital Asset Clear. As the world's largest derivatives clearinghouse, LCH SA's move to clear bitcoin futures expands the firm's market presence. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

schklom

Genuinely don't know, maybe you do. Are legal documents still available for small companies 50+ years ago in South Africa? We would have to ask the SA government. I might actually write them an email to ask them if they have records so old.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG) and Global Futures and Options (GFO-X) are set to launch the UK's first centrally cleared trading venue for digital asset derivatives. LCH SA, the Paris-based subsidiary of the LSEG clearinghouse, will provide clearing services for Bitcoin index futures and options contracts. The plan still requires regulatory approval. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*