DNA

No-Guitar-4606

ron paul got me highly interested in austrian economics. which led to some austrian economics forum postings. actually participated in some bitcoin forums in the early days. never had a single coin. never even thought to mine. my ultra nerdy brother had his computer mining for SETI research (imaging space and DNA sequencing and shit). i suggested he switch to bitcoin in like 2010\~2011. the early early days. he laughed it off that "he was actually help discover something worthwhile". we joke about it, if he listened to me, we'd be near billionaires.

Hot_Shirt6765

Got into bitcoin after marriage. She knows I have a stack. She doesn't know how much. I know if I tell her she will want to spend it. It's in their DNA.

HappyCommunication81

The tulip mania story is mostly fiction - https://www.history.com/news/tulip-mania-financial-crash-holland >But according to historian Anne Goldgar, Mackay’s tales of huge fortunes lost and distraught people drowning themselves in canals are more fiction than fact. Goldgar, a professor of early modern history at King’s College London and author of Tulipmania: Money, Honor and Knowledge in the Dutch Golden Age, understands why Mackay’s myth-making has endured. >“It’s a great story and the reason why it’s a great story is that it makes people look stupid,” says Goldgar, who laments that even a serious economist like John Kenneth Galbraith parroted Mackay’s account in A Short History of Financial Euphoria. “But the idea that tulip mania caused a big depression is completely untrue. As far as I can see, it caused no real effect on the economy whatsoever.” >To get the real scoop on tulip mania, Goldgar went to the source. She spent years scouring the archives of Dutch cities like Amsterdam, Alkmaar, Enkhuizen and especially Haarlem, the center of the tulip trade. She painstakingly collected 17th-century manuscript data from public notaries, small claims courts, wills and more. And what Goldgar found wasn’t an irrational and widespread tulip craze, but a relatively small and short-lived market for an exotic luxury. >She only found 37 people who paid more than 300 guilders for a tulip bulb, the equivalent of what a skilled craftsman earned in a year. >What really surprised Goldgar, given Mackay’s tales of financial ruin, was that she wasn’t able to find a single case of an individual who went bankrupt after the tulip market crashed. Even the Dutch painter Jan van Goyen, who allegedly lost everything in the tulip crash, appears to have been done in by land speculation. The real economic fallout, in Goldgar’s assessment, was far more contained and manageable And tulip mania was also not about ordinary tulip bulbs. Ordinary tulip bulbs weren't worth a lot of money. The tulip mania bulbs were mutants that were infected with an aphid-borne mosaic virus which resulted in them having bright and unique patterns. The mutated DNA could not be passed down by normal seeds, only bulb offsets which occur maybe once a year. So these mutant tulip bulbs controlled the only supply for a specific rare and desirable flower. Estimates on the value of one of those mutant tulip bulbs if a single one existed today are between 1 to 2 million dollars. You could sell one of those rare tulip bulbs for over a million dollars now but they don't exist anymore.

Turbulent-Act-1348

People that give #Bitcoin for free to idi0ts are gonna HFSP. Lets hope blockchain.com brings those satoshis to the market. Sadly and apparently you share DNA with those individuals. You are in my prayers. xD

TruculentBellicose

It might be obvious to you, but not to me. Let's say a person bought BTC from exchanges and resellers over the years, using a credit card, bank drafts, and electronic transfers. Then, over the years, some of the exchanges and resellers shut down, exit scammed, started demanding outrageously invasive documentation and personal information to allow you to continue using their platform, or have simply banned you because your govt ordered them to. So now you have your BTC in a hardware wallet. Your govt, who didn't help you when a local exchange disappeared and the founder pretended to die in India while his wife kept boats, real estate, and a private jet, wants to know how much you have and a piece of it. Now you want to buy a car. Perhaps you transfer BTC to an exchange, trade if for fiat, send it to your bank, hope your bank allows you to access it without demanding an explanation for the origin, and be certain that your tax authority has been notified. Perhaps, the seller accepts BTC and you send them BTC in exchange for the car. Perhaps a local reseller accepts BTC and provides cash without demanding a DNA sample and a picture of your anus. Perhaps there's another way. So I asked.

hottogo

There are solutions to your example, i.e. a banana. For instance OriginTrail has a solution to tag products or pallets with a DNA tag. For a banana you would only do the pallet, but for manufactured goods you can mix in a DNA tag into the actual product mix. https://twitter.com/origin_trail/status/1759626249813520823?t=ngKC88VwMPh_b4J5ZIdRJQ&s=19 Outside of that solution, it comes down the following the product through the supply chain and having trust scores. It will be pretty easy to find out of a bag is counterfeit with their system just from tracing it's journey and seeing if the retail store you are at is meant to have it. Finally, you may not be aware that the largest companies in the world including Home Depot, Disney, Walmart, Target etc all use OriginTrail to authenticate factory audits for their product imports, which equate to roughly 40% of all US imports. Dive deep on OriginTrail, it is amazing stuff.

Prudent-Ad-1622

Nuclear dna yes, half is from mom and half from dad. But mtdna comes from mom's egg only. Also DNA alone is not enough to create life, you need a cell and that cell with all its machineries come from the egg.

Prudent-Ad-1622

More egg than sperm actually. Sperm fertilizes the egg by transferring half DNA. That is all that comes from the sperm- a microscopic amount of DNA and the egg does the rest to form our bodies. The egg is basically the first cell of our body, it divides and divides until it becomes a human. Our cytoplasm, cell organelles and mtDNA come from the egg only. So we are much more egg than sperm or sperm DNA. But still people always identify with sperm and not the egg.

Prudent-Ad-1622

More egg than sperm actually. Sperm fertilizes the egg by transferring half DNA. That is all that comes from the sperm- a microscopic amount of DNA and the egg does the rest to form our bodies. The egg is basically the first cell of our body, it divides and divides until it becomes a human. Our cytoplasm, cell organelles and mtDNA come from the egg only. So we are much more egg than sperm or sperm DNA. But still people always identify with sperm and not the egg.

Text-Admirable

DNA required for each crypto transaction in five years

Calcobra94

Use some of that money for a DNA test???

skillgamert

Be your own bank on Loopring wallet will soon be available. A DEX with all features that a CEX has but then in your own custody. Ensuring that a DNA test will not be needed

Direct-Gain9933

It's worth being prepared for more difficult verification processes from year to year, it's inevitable. In this money industry with the development of fraud, hacking, artificial intelligence, it can't be otherwise. There was no room for privacy in principle, it was just not obvious to most people and they existed within the anonymity bubble of cryptocurrencies. I don't see any other solution in the long term than biological proof of identity through DNA analysis of bio-material. Even though this now seems like an incredible violation of privacy and an absurd decline of civilization as we know it. Because the only correct solution is one that cannot be tampered with or tampered with. Everything that exists now has already proven to be unreliable.

kaiise

just more animal amino acid diversity and new DNA to add to myown

Unenunciate

Your DNA is tainted with an extra chromosome.

-_-fumba

Big banks do this every fucking day. These people are scared as shit, wasn’t this the same lady that said she was Native American or something and she did a DNA test and it said she was 0%? Get outta here

TheCommodore777

50% Jewish: Ashkenazi Jews in Northeastern Europe: Latvia, Lithuania, and Belarus. That is what is stated and that is where the map is highlighted. The Middle East is not highlighted or mentioned at all in the DNA test result.

GodSlayingFist

That doesn't make sense. So your Jewish side/parent's DNA passed to you came up as a quarter ethnic North East Euro (whatever country that is? NE Euro seems to be a part of Europe that people debate over which countries actually ARE north-eastern) and a quarter ethnically Jewish. Then you're half NW Euro on your non-Jewish side? Because obviously no ethnic North-East Euro person has Jewish DNA. They are not unanimous, not one in the same, unless it is in the case of a mixed person who is half and half on one side of their tree. I'm just trying to figure out what you really mean. Seeing the results page break down would definitely clear it up for me. If your result came up Ashkenazi and then showed a map of Europe when you clicked on the result, that's likely just where your ancestors were settled for long enough or maybe even just an estimated previous origin location going off of the general statistical movement trends of people sharing similar genetic make-ups. On the other hand, if Ashkenazi is listed and then <Insert North East Euro country name> was also listed beneath the Ashkenazi, then that would clearly show that segments of your DNA matches those two populations.

TheCommodore777

I am an atheist but ethnically half Jewish. My ancestry DNA test pointed to Northeastern Europe for my Jewish ancestry and Northwestern Europe for my non-Jewish ancestry.

theodopolopolus

If you go on the ancestry test subreddits they are full of Ashkenazi Jews finding out that their DNA is pretty much entirely European and either finding fault with the test or just having their mind blown.

TheCommodore777

Not true. I’m half Jewish ancestry and DNA tests show half DNA from Eastern Europe and half from Northwest Europe.

GodSlayingFist

Jewish people are typically mixed with "white" European ancestry, but were and are also a unique race of middle eastern people. Otherwise, if you have no European ancestry in your tree due to your ancestors passing through Europe/inter-marrying.. If you took one of the mainstream DNA tests, you'd plot genetically in the Middle East... Not Europe.

OneCrispyHobo

If we can bring back mammoths 🦣 and dodo birds 🦤 from extinctions by engineering their DNA, I bet we can recover his hard drive.

silver4rrow

Yes and no, BTC2 would technically be identical whereas the Mona Lisa copy is just a copy. Yeah BTC2 is also just a copy but with the same ‚DNA‘. But I get your point, thx :) I mean LTC is also ~somewhat similar to BTC with 4 times the supply but not even worth a fraction…

Objective_Digit

Bitcoin possesses several useful properties, including: 1. Divisibilty. Bitcoin can be divided into minute parts. 2. Transportability. It can be sent over the internet 3.Progammability. Bitcoin can be programmed to perform various functions. 4. Longevity. A bitcoin will never wear out. 5. Aesthetics. Its code and game theory is elegant and beautiful. 6. Biocompatibility. A bitcoin seed can be remembered or even theoretically embedded in your DNA. 7. High value. Its value rises far more than gold's. The latter only rising only from one cent to $2000 in 5000 years. Anyone can make a list like that.

Econophysicist1

It will take time for people to understand all this. Of course, the price will taper off at a point. There are mathematical ways to go from a power law to a model that tapers off. That can be taken care easily. It it part of how you improve the theory. Right now we are not in the regime where the power law needs to be slightly corrected to do that. Yourself is showing that it will take about 40 years until we see results that go against limit of growth. Teeth, horns, bones, solar systems all grows with power laws. When they run out of material or when DNA programming say it is time to stop the growth stops. There will be mechanism that of course will cause saturation by that time. All this can be included in the theory and will improve it. The current data cannot be denied it is there staring you in the face. You can deny it or try to understand it and maybe contribute to it. It is up to you.

hateschoolfml

I don’t believe everything I read especially as the fiat standard has given us fiat food I stick to what ancestors ate & rather minimize from the plant oxalates which cause free radicals & DNA damage but to each their own ofc

richardto4321

You mean they all need to be neutered so they can't pass on their DNA to the next generation of humans.

HappyCommunication81

The tulip mania story is mostly fiction - https://www.history.com/news/tulip-mania-financial-crash-holland >But according to historian Anne Goldgar, Mackay’s tales of huge fortunes lost and distraught people drowning themselves in canals are more fiction than fact. Goldgar, a professor of early modern history at King’s College London and author of Tulipmania: Money, Honor and Knowledge in the Dutch Golden Age, understands why Mackay’s myth-making has endured. >“It’s a great story and the reason why it’s a great story is that it makes people look stupid,” says Goldgar, who laments that even a serious economist like John Kenneth Galbraith parroted Mackay’s account in A Short History of Financial Euphoria. “But the idea that tulip mania caused a big depression is completely untrue. As far as I can see, it caused no real effect on the economy whatsoever.” >To get the real scoop on tulip mania, Goldgar went to the source. She spent years scouring the archives of Dutch cities like Amsterdam, Alkmaar, Enkhuizen and especially Haarlem, the center of the tulip trade. She painstakingly collected 17th-century manuscript data from public notaries, small claims courts, wills and more. And what Goldgar found wasn’t an irrational and widespread tulip craze, but a relatively small and short-lived market for an exotic luxury. >She only found 37 people who paid more than 300 guilders for a tulip bulb, the equivalent of what a skilled craftsman earned in a year. >What really surprised Goldgar, given Mackay’s tales of financial ruin, was that she wasn’t able to find a single case of an individual who went bankrupt after the tulip market crashed. Even the Dutch painter Jan van Goyen, who allegedly lost everything in the tulip crash, appears to have been done in by land speculation. The real economic fallout, in Goldgar’s assessment, was far more contained and manageable And tulip mania was also not about ordinary tulip bulbs. Ordinary tulip bulbs weren't worth a lot of money. The tulip mania bulbs were mutants that were infected with an aphid-borne mosaic virus which resulted in them having bright and unique patterns. The mutated DNA could not be passed down by normal seeds, only bulb offsets which occur maybe once a year. So these mutant tulip bulbs controlled the only supply for a specific rare and desirable flower. Estimates on the value of one of those mutant tulip bulbs if a single one existed today are between 1 to 2 million dollars. You could sell one of those rare tulip bulbs for over a million dollars now but they don't exist anymore.

whatifitried

So, don't agree with you here, but it's price will certainly drop because it's a wee bit overheated, meaning the first even minor sales slump will cause a massive stock over-reaction. That said, the cycle they are riding here is not AI Hype, but AI orders. All of this comes from sales and profit. This form of AI doesn't need to be the path to full AGI for it to be incredibly useful, as it's already incredibly useful. A ton of super valuable stuff is already being done with backprop neural nets, which will continue to drive huge order revenue. Tensor chips are here to stay too. My assumption is this cycle will fall well short of AGI, but also replace so so many things. Self driving looks pretty likely, market trading looks likely, energy grid management already happens, robotic control systems already use this, etc. Military uses this stuff heavily. Even if this tech isn't what creates AGI, it's not like the tech that does won't need chips to do it. NVDA is definitely better positioned than Intel or AMD in that race, no matter what form it takes. You could argue that if it requires some form of quantum computing to achieve then they might not be the leader in that, but they certainly are in conventional, high parallelism chips. NVDA is buying the railroad, not the train. It's not clear that this form of learning will fail towards AGI either, evolution itself appears to be a form of backprop based learning, fwiw given the apparent DNA changes triggered by environmental response, which some refer to as the epigenome.

ElectronicGas2978

Raising a batch of DNA similar to yours a legacy? It'll give you dopamine hits and acceptance in society, but it doesn't matter either.

BodybuilderSalt9807

lol hmmmmmm just doing what is woven in his DNA. His ancestors - you know the ones that were sent over from England were all criminals.

the_TAOest

So, Bitcoin huh. I keep forgetting what the heck it does besides appreciating in value... Is it used by banks as a record keeping tech? Does it solve problems with DNA sequencing? Does it figure out physics problems? Anyway, I'm at a loss for what it does.

BirdLooter

you have gambling coded into your DNA. you either realize it or take massive punches at some point in life. at least that's my prediction.

BasisOk4268

And my brother messaged last night saying he thinks he should sell some now and buy back in lower. Hard to think we share DNA.

LangleyMan2000

Yah.... no. Not all of us (thanks, DNA from my awesome parents)!

HappyCommunication81

The tulip mania story is mostly fiction - https://www.history.com/news/tulip-mania-financial-crash-holland >But according to historian Anne Goldgar, Mackay’s tales of huge fortunes lost and distraught people drowning themselves in canals are more fiction than fact. Goldgar, a professor of early modern history at King’s College London and author of Tulipmania: Money, Honor and Knowledge in the Dutch Golden Age, understands why Mackay’s myth-making has endured. >“It’s a great story and the reason why it’s a great story is that it makes people look stupid,” says Goldgar, who laments that even a serious economist like John Kenneth Galbraith parroted Mackay’s account in A Short History of Financial Euphoria. “But the idea that tulip mania caused a big depression is completely untrue. As far as I can see, it caused no real effect on the economy whatsoever.” >To get the real scoop on tulip mania, Goldgar went to the source. She spent years scouring the archives of Dutch cities like Amsterdam, Alkmaar, Enkhuizen and especially Haarlem, the center of the tulip trade. She painstakingly collected 17th-century manuscript data from public notaries, small claims courts, wills and more. And what Goldgar found wasn’t an irrational and widespread tulip craze, but a relatively small and short-lived market for an exotic luxury. >She only found 37 people who paid more than 300 guilders for a tulip bulb, the equivalent of what a skilled craftsman earned in a year. >What really surprised Goldgar, given Mackay’s tales of financial ruin, was that she wasn’t able to find a single case of an individual who went bankrupt after the tulip market crashed. Even the Dutch painter Jan van Goyen, who allegedly lost everything in the tulip crash, appears to have been done in by land speculation. The real economic fallout, in Goldgar’s assessment, was far more contained and manageable And tulip mania was also not about ordinary tulip bulbs. Ordinary tulip bulbs weren't worth a lot of money. The tulip mania bulbs were mutants that were infected with an aphid-borne mosaic virus which resulted in them having bright and unique patterns. The mutated DNA could not be passed down by normal seeds, only bulb offsets which occur maybe once a year. So these mutant tulip bulbs controlled the only supply for a specific rare and desirable flower. Estimates on the value of one of those mutant tulip bulbs if a single one existed today are between 1 to 2 million dollars. You could sell one of those rare tulip bulbs for over a million dollars now but they don't exist anymore.

witheringsyncopation

Failed to become a decentralized global currency? But that’s exactly what it is and has always been. That’s it’s DNA. It never needed to become that. It already was.

hblok

Is that the one where you have to part with limbs and DNA to get in on the action?

0xAERG

People have always been lazy. It's called energy preservation and it's engrained in our DNA.

Crypto---Knight

I hope that integrity is greater than her Native American DNA test result.

Ok_Fig_4885

fuck that Indian DNA not having bitch

crocodileNile

exactly. Peter Schiff should be replaced with Buffett. Talking to Peter Schiff is like talking to your grandfather but you are sharing the same DNA. DNA of hard assets and freedom

hoondy

I CRISPR edited my DNA and encoded each seed in my first 12 chromosomes 🧬

FehdmanKhassad

well to me it's as if you are giving away a piece of your soul to some random companies who arent gonna give a fuck about what they do with this information are they? are they gonna keep the digital record of your eyes secure forever? give it to Dr Evil? sell it or get it hacked? the list of why i dont want to input my fingerprints, irises, or DNA into computers really can go on for a long time.

zenethics

> Take quantum computing. A quantum computer (yet to be developed) could in theory hack Bitcoin. But they are already working on new quantum-proof cryptography algorythms and possible network upgrades. This only seems true to people who don't know how quantum computing works or don't know how Bitcoin works. Bitcoin works like so: 1. You get a public key that represents a point on the elliptic curve (ECDSA/secp256k1) - it has a corresponding private key that is never revealed. 2. This public key is hashed twice. First with SHA256, second with RIPEMD-160 - this is your address (well, basically). 3. When you send a transaction from that address, you sign for it in such a way that it reveals your public key. Each address has its own public key that is only revealed once (if used correctly / not reusing addresses). There is some fear that Bitcoin might be vulnerable to quantum attacks. For people who reuse addresses this fear may have some merit. For people who never reuse addresses this fear is unmerited. It is possible that quantum computers may allow us to solve the discrete logarithm problem similar to how they allow us to solve for factoring large numbers (like with Shor's algorithm). This would break the ECDSA mentioned above. This is because problems like the discrete logarithm problem and large number factorization seem to have corollaries in the physical/quantum world (that is, these math problems describe quantum phenomena, therefore we can exploit quantum phenomena to solve these math problems). A quantum computer isn't just "a really fast computer" - it's a fundamentally different model of computing that can leverage quantum phenomena to solve problems that have mathematical corollaries in known quantum mechanics. It is much much less likely that quantum computers will allow us to solve SHA256 or RIPEMD-160 because these are human inventions. It would be very strange if they had corollaries in the quantum world. It would be like discovering that a DNA helix was written in English. And even if there were some flaw to be exploited by quantum computers in SHA256 or RIPEMD-160, it would be very strange to discover flaws in both because they work so differently. Is it possible? Yes, but... wildly unlikely.

HappyCommunication81

The tulip mania story is mostly fiction - https://www.history.com/news/tulip-mania-financial-crash-holland >But according to historian Anne Goldgar, Mackay’s tales of huge fortunes lost and distraught people drowning themselves in canals are more fiction than fact. Goldgar, a professor of early modern history at King’s College London and author of Tulipmania: Money, Honor and Knowledge in the Dutch Golden Age, understands why Mackay’s myth-making has endured. >“It’s a great story and the reason why it’s a great story is that it makes people look stupid,” says Goldgar, who laments that even a serious economist like John Kenneth Galbraith parroted Mackay’s account in A Short History of Financial Euphoria. “But the idea that tulip mania caused a big depression is completely untrue. As far as I can see, it caused no real effect on the economy whatsoever.” >To get the real scoop on tulip mania, Goldgar went to the source. She spent years scouring the archives of Dutch cities like Amsterdam, Alkmaar, Enkhuizen and especially Haarlem, the center of the tulip trade. She painstakingly collected 17th-century manuscript data from public notaries, small claims courts, wills and more. And what Goldgar found wasn’t an irrational and widespread tulip craze, but a relatively small and short-lived market for an exotic luxury. >She only found 37 people who paid more than 300 guilders for a tulip bulb, the equivalent of what a skilled craftsman earned in a year. >What really surprised Goldgar, given Mackay’s tales of financial ruin, was that she wasn’t able to find a single case of an individual who went bankrupt after the tulip market crashed. Even the Dutch painter Jan van Goyen, who allegedly lost everything in the tulip crash, appears to have been done in by land speculation. The real economic fallout, in Goldgar’s assessment, was far more contained and manageable And tulip mania was also not about ordinary tulip bulbs. Ordinary tulip bulbs weren't worth a lot of money. The tulip mania bulbs were mutants that were infected with an aphid-borne mosaic virus which resulted in them having bright and unique patterns. The mutated DNA could not be passed down by normal seeds, only bulb offsets which occur maybe once a year. So these mutant tulip bulbs controlled the only supply for a specific rare and desirable flower. Estimates on the value of one of those mutant tulip bulbs if a single one existed today are between 1 to 2 million dollars. You could sell one of those rare tulip bulbs for over a million dollars now but they don't exist anymore.

ALT_Dim3nsion

Here in the US you are sickened on PURPOSE and premeditatedly to create a lifelong customers. Treatment, treatment, treatment! Never a cure. GMO this, blah blah blah dioxide that. Petroleum products in children products this, DNA damaging PFAS in most things that.

Objective_Digit

bcash is bcash. It can't be Bitcoin. Bitcoin is Bitcoin. They are not fungible with one another. Sharing some of the same code does not make it the same thing. A chimp sahres most of Einstein's DNA.

withspaces

Not necessarily, as technology advances tools may be developed that could one day lead to an answer. Like how [the development of DNA testing was used to solve 70 y/o cold cases](https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/244151.pdf)

ravenofiridescence

cramers's DNA samples are the most preciously rare asset in the world, people will fight wars for that stuff to breed new inverse fortune tellers

Raiserbets

If you can’t sell when it’s high you can’t buy the dip, it’s in your DNA 🧬

zenethics

Best practice is to use a new address each time you spend Bitcoin. This prevents quantum computer attacks. It works like so: 1. You get a public key that represents a point on the elliptic curve (ECDSA/secp256k1) - it has a corresponding private key that is never revealed. 2. This public key is hashed twice. First with SHA256, second with RIPEMD-160 - this is your address. 3. When you send a transaction from that address, you sign for it in such a way that it reveals your public key. There is some fear that Bitcoin might be vulnerable to quantum attacks. For people who reuse addresses this fear may have some merit. For people who never reuse addresses this fear is unmerited. It is possible that quantum computers may allow us to solve the discrete logarithm problem in a way similar to how they allow us to solve for factorizing large numbers (like with Shor's algorithm). This would break the ECDSA mentioned above. This is because problems like the discrete logarithm problem and large number factorization seem to have corollaries in the physical/quantum world (that is, these math problems describe quantum phenomena, therefore we can exploit quantum phenomena to solve these math problems). However, it is much much less likely that quantum computers will allow us to solve SHA256 or RIPEMD-160 because these are human inventions of the type that it would be very strange if they had corollaries in the quantum world. Akin to discovering that a DNA helix was written in English. And even if there were some flaw to be exploited by quantum computers in SHA256 or RIPEMD-160, it would be very strange to discover flaws in both because they work so differently.

fllthdcrb

> Not to say that Bitcoin is anonymous - it really isn't. But it's CLOSER to anonymous than traditional currencies. Actually, it's *less* anonymous than any cash. With paper and coins, all you have are the objects themselves. There may be some forensic evidence, such as fingerprints, DNA, or traces of drugs (though I'm sure you know the thing about pretty much all paper money having traces of drugs anyway). But what you don't have, that you *do* with Bitcoin, is a clear ledger that shows exactly where the money came from and where it went, which is a big improvement for tracing things, even if it doesn't necessarily always work. Are you aware of the story of the FBI investigation into the Silk Road? In particular, not how they caught Ross Ulbricht, but what happened with two of the federal agents involved, Carl Force and Shaun Bridges. I read one of the court filings in the case against them. They stole some of the funds, but they were caught. Part of the evidence against them was blockchain analysis. It was pretty solid, despite their attempts to mix the coins, because there were clear paths to UTXOs they were known to control (obviously, anyone who knows can tell you that's not how you should do mixing and have it actually be effective, but since they did it that way, it was not hard to trace). Now, if this money had been cash, maybe an investigation could still have made a good case, but the blockchain evidence helped a lot, IMO.

nonamemcstain

His DNA won't survive what's coming.

Itslittlealexhorn

"Some people just prefer to exist without food and air, we are all different". The need for social interaction is baked into our DNA, you cannot escape it. You can condition yourself to avoid social interaction and prefer loneliness, but you are still fundamentally a caveman who needs a tribe to survive. >Some people just prefer and are happier being on their own or having a small circle around them. "On their own" and "having a small circle" are not at all the same or similar thing.

Frogolocalypse

Re people posting virtue signalling politicians for their rah rah exercises. This is why politics, especially US politics, bores me re bitcoin. It starts because most people don't know history. Like wtf. They learn a very narrow range, and they enforce it. And there's a reason for that. Because they are the fuck you people. No joke. It's the 1st amendment. It's part of the DNA. But when you mix those things, and you get this really loud signal level, because there's how they've always been. That's their media. Always been like that. So said politician says a word to rah rah up the troops and plasters it across multiple unrelated platforms. There's an election to win. There will be many people, including myself, who have spoken on the history of the gold seizure. The risk of executive order that the contents of the ETFs are seized and nationalized, and they're given dollars in exchange five years later at the price it was when it was seized. Told you so and all that. But I think that's good to think about on a micro level, for security, I don't think that will ever happen. But if you're a bitcoiner, what does the success situation really look like? For bitcoin I don't think any part of bitcoin will be affected no matter the shade of party governing. And no one is going to do squat with bitcoin. If you believe the hype, bitcoin is eventually going to replace fiat. X layers, but i'm pretty sure that's the theory. Only question is time and logistics. The thing about it is that most of the people who own bitcoin are Americans. This explosive growth is going to make a lot of Americans wealthy. In a 'cratering' (by some accounts) USD$. You know who's going to benefit? Them. You know who won't? The furtherest people from the tap. They (americans) ultimately won't care. That's the biggest thing that they export; inflation. Us plebs will need to acquire the thing they own, to protect us from the effects of their monetary policy. No way are they killing that golden goose. So go rah rah team. But my arguments about that aren't about bitcoin either. When you're not getting signalled, it's just noise. That noise is loud. But you know... whatevs. It's Friday night and I'm going to get drunk.

XBB32

Why do we need passwords and seed phrases when we have digital prints, iris-recognition or let's be crazy, DNA ? I really don't get it... I want my wallet to be part of myself... I don't want the need to remember whatever credential the come up with... If my wallet is part of myself, can it be hacked by quantum computing? I doubt it...

Buckeye1234

Greed and sex is in our DNA

NerullCartographer

Covid-19 targets certain races and gives others immunity: Kennedy Jr. was caught on camera telling fellow diners that “Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people” and “the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” according to a video made public in the New York Post, which also shows him saying the U.S. “put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes” and labs in Ukraine collected Russian and Chinese DNA “so we can target people by race.” Mass shootings are linked to prescription drugs: Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac in a recent Twitter Spaces discussion, telling owner Elon Musk, “Prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost none of these events" (there's no scientifically established correlation between psychiatric drugs and mass violence, according to experts cited by PolitiFact). The 2004 presidential election was stolen: Kennedy Jr. said in a 2006 Rolling Stone article he was “convinced” that voter fraud in the 2004 presidential election allowed former Republican President George W. Bush to steal the victory from Democrat John Kerry, but while a 2005 postmortem by the Democratic Party found a breakdown of the election system in Ohio, it found no evidence of fraud. The CIA was involved in the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy: Reprising the unfounded claim he has made for years, Kennedy Jr. recently made the suggestion to Fox News’ Sean Hannity (though the federal government’s Warren Commission convened to study the killing found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot JFK in 1963). The wrong person may have been convicted of killing his father: Kennedy Jr. cast doubt on the conviction of Sirhan Sirhan in the 1968 assassination of his father, former U.S. Attorney General and Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, to which gunman Sirhan Sirhan confessed days later, though his lawyers have claimed in recent years that he was hypnotized and coerced to kill Kennedy.

NerullCartographer

Covid-19 targets certain races and gives others immunity: Kennedy Jr. was caught on camera telling fellow diners that “Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people” and “the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese,” according to a video made public in the New York Post, which also shows him saying the U.S. “put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes” and labs in Ukraine collected Russian and Chinese DNA “so we can target people by race.” Mass shootings are linked to prescription drugs: Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac in a recent Twitter Spaces discussion, telling owner Elon Musk, “Prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost none of these events" (there's no scientifically established correlation between psychiatric drugs and mass violence, according to experts cited by PolitiFact). The 2004 presidential election was stolen: Kennedy Jr. said in a 2006 Rolling Stone article he was “convinced” that voter fraud in the 2004 presidential election allowed former Republican President George W. Bush to steal the victory from Democrat John Kerry, but while a 2005 postmortem by the Democratic Party found a breakdown of the election system in Ohio, it found no evidence of fraud. The CIA was involved in the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy: Reprising the unfounded claim he has made for years, Kennedy Jr. recently made the suggestion to Fox News’ Sean Hannity (though the federal government’s Warren Commission convened to study the killing found that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot JFK in 1963). The wrong person may have been convicted of killing his father: Kennedy Jr. cast doubt on the conviction of Sirhan Sirhan in the 1968 assassination of his father, former U.S. Attorney General and Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, to which gunman Sirhan Sirhan confessed days later, though his lawyers have claimed in recent years that he was hypnotized and coerced to kill Kennedy.

orangejulius

Coinbase built compliance into their DNA. Kraken's seems to have a culture of thinking laws are, like, just your opinion, man. Kraken is also under investigation by the Treasury for sanctions evasion similar to what Binance got walloped for. Kraken had some crazy problem with one of their founders and a stalking case. Their CEO has also literally expressed the viewpoint that he doesn't really believe law are worth following: > In 2019, Mr. Powell got into an argument on Slack about parental leave at Kraken, according to messages viewed by The Times. Mr. Powell said parental leave was a burden for the company because a child “might as well be a second job, a distracting hobby or a harmful addiction” and “is something outside of work that has a negative impact on work.” > The conversation soon shifted to a discussion of legal requirements. Mr. Powell said that in his “formula for everything,” it was important to consider whether it’s “worth the risk to not follow the legal requirement.” He added, **“Not following the law would by default be ‘ill-advised,’ but it always has to be considered as an option.”** Yeah -that's about parental leave. But if that's his attitude about employment law then that company really truly doesn't give a fuck about compliance at any level.

MachaMacMorrigan

If you buy fossilized dinosaur faeces, you might be able to extract dinosaur DNA. Think Jurassic Park!

Eric_Zookeeper

Same stupido DNA. He should just have bought BTC and Hold

Smayteeh

Yeah? Well I’ve decided to encode all the words of my seed phrase using a combination of the letters A T G and C in order to replace part of my genetic code. This way, someone will need to get my DNA, the specific base pair location, and need to perform sequencing in order to get my keys.

MinimalGravitas

WTF? Why try to help people? Why do you call an ambulance if someone collapses? Or stop a toddler walking into a road if they slip away from their parent? Why drag an accident victim from a burning car? Why do Bonobos adopt orphaned babies? Why do chimpanzees share food with their wounded? Most primates and many other social animals have instincts to help the vulnerable and in need, I guess because we evolved to survive in groups. A cooperative group always out competes lone individuals, so it's just in out DNA! Obviously taking shifts to stay on guard through dark nights, and to hunt big prey as a pack isn't quite the same as pointing a stranger on Reddit away from scams, but your instincts don't really know the difference. Imagine if you had two communities, one where everyone is trying to scam each other, tricking other people into investing in junk just to pump their own bags... then another where the community points out risks to each other and guides people away from falling into stupid traps. Which of these groups would do better in the long run?

Yung-Split

By your definition humans don't think for themselves either. We are trained by out environments and DNA, and we just spit out responses based on that + some stimuli.

Agile_Ad7864

Laying my lowcap bets on TRIAS and VXV/SBIO. TRIAS has solid real world connections to actual companies in Asia through its parent company Octa Innovations, some of which are: -Soochow CSSD capital markets PTE. LTD -China unicom (Hong Kong) – (Fortune 500) -China mobile -Histron TRIAS a negative layer 1 (-1) blockchain is a huge project and im just being blown away by the things they are working on. Not getting into technicals, but for your own DYOR start reading the AMA's from Trias Medium and maybe also research Octa Innovations and it's connections. This will probably take hours, but its worth it! 43M mc (10M token out of 10M) Vectorspace bio (VXV, SBIO) is an interesting one! They are planning to shoot cubesats to space with biological material inside them (human DNA for example). After exposing the material to microgravity the data is beamed back to earth and analyzed with LLM ai to find hidden relations that hopefully will give insights of how to protect the human body during spaceflight. Data could also be used to potentially produce new medicine discoveries to benefit the humankind. This LLM ai tech they are using is also being used to provide different datasets for hidden relationships that can be used by researchers or stock traders for benefit. VXV token is used for their datasets and SBIO is a tokenized stock representing equity of the company Vectorspace bio. VXV is 20M mc (40M out of 50M) and SBIO 6M (10M out of 100M)

Itslittlealexhorn

The underperformance of ETH is a valid question, I don't get why people here are so defensive. For starters I would dismiss the comparison to alt coins. Alt coins surging in the expectation of a bullrun is just crypto market shenanigans. The largest altcoins in that list is SOL, which has less than 10% of the market cap of ETH. The only important one is BTC and I see a few reasons why BTC/ETH has been on a downtrend. For starters there appears to be a growing general acceptance that BTC is or will be a commodity. That assurance is not there for ETH. There is nothing comparable in the BTC universe to the central influence held by the ethereum foundation and certain influential individuals in the ETH ecosystem. In addition ETH development has been steady, but slow. Danksharding has been on the horizon for years and Proto-danksharding was scheduled for late 2023. Is that gonna happen? I honestly doubt it. BTC being static is part of its DNA. ETH cannot afford to be static, otherwise it will be replaced. ETH remains the dominant smart chain, by a significant margin. But what guarantees continued dominance? The long term bull case for ETH exists, but it is less clear than the one for BTC. This perception can change at any moment and ETH may take off again, but there are definitely reasons for the underperformance.

hateschoolfml

Fiat foods work so well to destroy your DNA & health lol

pie1983

Agreed. Not sure why so many Bitcoiners are trying to shove self custody down people’s throat. An ETF is not FTX. It is a legit way to spread adoption. Self custody is not such a key feature in the DNA of Bitcoin.

Frogolocalypse

It is a good insight. Don't think I've thought of it in that context before. There's a lot to unpack in that. Humanity's relationship with money, a uniquely human thing I'd say, manifests in every part of every culture. It ultimately represents security. Anyone who has known want knows that. So the display of wealth, or not, even talking about it, can be thought 'uncouth', if you haven't known want. Now add a million different variations. Those rituals don't just get unlearned. Money is in our DNA, just like language. Great tangent: https://bigthink.com/the-past/history-of-math-money/

BBQCopter

Imma replace your DNA with hopium.

dickingaround

Yea, but that's not why we dislike her. I don't care if she thinks she's a chair. Her self identity is irrelevant and just a distraction to the core problem that she is attacking people's freedom. We hate her for that. Thus, we should only insult her for that. If she's a euro-DNA who things she's a native-american-DNA but she's not trying to take away my ability to self-custody, then I don't hate her. She might be wrong on that topic, but it's an irrelevant topic to me. I hate her for a specific thing she deserves it for. This might seem like minutia, but I also think the two parties in America are trying to get us to self-identify into little tribes based on all that irrelevant stuff. If we're going to do tribes, I don't want to separate based on their labels. We should separate based on pro/anti-bitcoin, pro/anti-non-aggression-principle, etc.

Draufgaenger

I'd like to use my poops DNA for verification please. Thank you!

Kants_Paradigm

What you meant to say it "It is only a social construct"... yes it is. But by that approach, going to the macro level... none of it is even worthy pursuing because live inherently has no purpose other than the reproduce the DNA from out species to a next generation. It is the death to any conversation because anything can be bagetalized by stating is it just a social construct and it means nothing. Because yes it true.. but on the other side shooting you in the head at that point means nothing as well. Because even those consequences are just a social construct. Where myself I do not even matter in the larger scale of things. So that is why we discuss these theories. On a Meso or micro level where we assume axioms of "truths" from social theories so we can talk about application and inherent worth instead of always killing the conversation with a knockdown argument that doesn't add anything to the conversation because we all know this is the case. You are not being smart you miss the point by not knowing to assess on what level the conversation is taking place and placing an argument within the framework.

Unitedstatesofnever

🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨 *Human excrement fished out of toliet in China has been DNA tested and came back as a positive match to Satoshi Nakamoto* Your welcome for me giving me your next story Cointelegraph.

Unitedstatesofnever

🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨 *Human excrement fished out of toliet in China has been DNA tested and came back as a positive match to Satoshi Nakamoto* Your welcome for giving me your next story Cointelegraph.

tsuiteruze

Who knows how it might lead to. If an organisation possess your DNA info and if organs are needed who knows what they will do.... kidnap you? An awful thought but since people are made poorer by design and desparation may have a horrible consequence. It's already happening in China.

anon2414691

Our DNA has not significantly changed in the last century. Generally speaking, we all at least have the capacity to be rational; we all can understand and learn basic arithmetic and *ratios*, so therefore we are *ratio*nal. Yes, this dimwit did not forget we’re still talking about economics. A lot of Americans might be super privileged and spoiled nowadays, with very little education, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are human beings. Humans have the inherent capacity to be rational (excluding, of course, those with mental handicaps).

HODL-THE-LINE

That's Elizabeth Warren who tried to benefit of her native American heritage. When she was called out on it she made a DNA test that revealed that she **might** have had one native American ancestor 10 generations ago. One Generation back is 2 people, your parents, 2 Generations back is 4 people, you're grand parents. 10 Generations ago, that is 1.024 people. So her heritage was not English or German, no native American. Cherokee Nation ripped her a new arsehole when they heard about her claim. What I'm saying is, take everything coming from that woman with a salt mine.

__m__a__t__t__

There was another post from someone who sold in 2021 about lessons learned. I exited my entire CKB position in spring 2022 because of the failure of Nervos to gain any ecosystem traction. I have no issue with the fundamentals, they're pretty great, but what has your team learned from this past cycle, and how are you changing your strategy going forward as far as ecosystem expansion and trying to bring people in? You can have the world's greatest technology, but if nobody uses it, what's the point? “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” \-Arthur C Clark I would argue that you can’t stop people from using “the world’s greatest technology”. It speaks for itself, it spreads rampantly like a mind virus, people touch it and don’t see the world the same way as a result. Think about your first video game console, or the first time you experienced digital media. I understand where the sentiment is coming from, magic doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It needs to breathe, it needs to be seen, it can’t be relegated to a tinkerer’s backroom. Getting to your question. I can concisely describe what has changed as a “return to the roots” of the project. When I first came to understand Nervos, what I was looking at was a band of opinionated engineers and a few marketing wizards who could meme. Once the network was live, it felt like “growing up” was necessary, what happened from a staffing and vibes perspective was things changed to the point that they didn’t even resemble the project that I joined. The middle managers and position players may have looked good on paper, but more often that not, they were on the newer side in the industry, and never were going to be capable of understanding CKB’s “edge”, and they certainly weren’t going to do know what to do maximize it’s power. Many people got a confused or one-sided take on Nervos. “It’s for interoperability” has been the most common take.. From an ecosystem development standpoint, the foundation had a BD team of 6, constantly talking to people, “build on CKB”, “integrate CKB”, “how can we work together?”. Additionally the Godwoken team had a few BD people repeating the process. As you highlighted, the end result was well short of what is necessary to have a vibrant developer community. “Talk is cheap. Show me the code.” - Linus Torvalds You can find this quote on Cryptape’s home page. https://cryptape.com Lesson 1: Be true to who you are. As much as it felt necessary to “grow up”, it’s not in the DNA of this project. At its heart, it is fun, it is tight-knit, it is quirky; and it is terribly unique compared to the kind of culture of most “smart contract platforms”, which for the most part started out as an optimization or two, but more than anything become products of the capital factory, and (from what I can tell) the reality of the organizations associated with these blockchains resemble other products of the capital factory. Our headcount is lower now, we are more focused, we can make sure that culture shines through in a way it didn’t have space for before. We have always said Nervos is community-driven, now, with a smaller team it becomes something that has to be the case, the foundation can’t do everything, so structurally empowering outsiders to take part is a growing component of our work. We are growing by showing work. We are doing a lot of telling people why CKB is great, the objective here is to establish social proof and get on the radar of builders that will be able to take advantage of it’s unique properties, and for them to build things that demonstrate the value prop. https://d.id did this, JoyID is doing this, the Polycrypt team will do this as well. The core team is doing it with the Spore project (https://spore.pro/). Lesson 2: Be bold, be different The thing I noticed about the outward face of Nervos is at some time it started to lack a soul. The logo was lifeless, somehow everything was white, black, grey.. the website was full of an incomprehensible number of words, there weren’t members of the foundation in community channels or being very active on social media. We did get to a point where people were tired of hearing about how great we thought CKB was and wanted us to “prove it”. Predictably, a safe path was chosen, Ethereum compatibilty, over the much riskier (and still risky, we don’t know how long this takes) path to pursue the exciting frontier of development directly on CKB. Godwoken took much longer to get right than expected, did not demonstrate a differentiator, and over time we saw the network get passed up time and time again in favor of bigger ecosystems. The time and opportunity that was lost to “playing it safe” stays with us. CKB is now squarely a “long shot”, which never needed to be the case. The couple years that were spent without focusing on what makes CKB special is regretful, but I do think “underdog” has always been the positioning of the project and maybe culturally we never were intended to take interviews on Live TV, manage a big team or make professional commercials. Nervos always felt counter-culture to me, and at each milestone that this community has passed since 2018 to me has felt like a blessing. It is humbling to have come this far, and to see the many ways the industry has affirmed the different theses of the project. It’s an incredibly exciting opportunity to try to seize every day. Lesson 3: Live for the ones who love you Perhaps it is a luxury of being written off by our critics, or simply to live in the realms of indifference, but it has become easy to make decisions in terms of the project’s fans, rather than anyone else. I do see lessons learned from bending over backwards to appease a market that always saw this as an oddball.. “PoW? What the hell?” “UTXO’s.. are you fucking kidding me?” We spend a great deal of effort nowadays to produce content to make clear what CKB is and why it is this way. I have noticed that it is probably 1 out of 10 in this industry that will “get it”, and we want to speak to them, rather than playing a numbers game to maximize our odds. 1 out of 100 will find home in this project they can't find anywhere else. I work to find them. This is difficult from a ecosystem growth perspective, I see our community mirroring Bitcoin’s, lots of hodlers, small number of devs, versus Ethereum’s example with is more balanced in terms of holders/devs. I think this is ok, Bitcoin worked, if it worked for Bitcoin, there’s a chance it will work here. I do think we are living for the ones that love us now. My favorite example is the Polycrypt payment channels project. While most teams would abhor having to deal with the cell model, the Polycrypt team says that CKB “just works”. It’s not for everybody, but all it takes is 1 hit. Not sure if you’re an Ice Spice or Cardi B fan, if you are then you’ll get it. “Good programmers worry about data structures and their relationships." - Linus Torvalds Bitcoin is successful because of the properties that emerge from Satoshi’s paper. The Bitcoin community’s steadfast adherence to these principles has created software with power beyond anything we’ve ever seen (maybe Linux :)) Every smart contract platform I can think of intends to fork and bend to every new requirement, CKB walks in Bitcoin’s footsteps, laying out a prescriptive system and putting faith in the elegance of what was designed. This is the essence of decentralization, a doctrine we can all rely on and know that everyone around us also is agreeing to. I do believe that this distinction gives CKB a unique opportunity compared to any other smart contract chain.

Legitimate_Suit_3431

No shit, that's why we love it, it's not locked behind 50 license, 2 iq tests and a DNA swap.

InternetStrang3r

It’s no coincidence that my family used to be farmers on one side and the other came from mining villages… moon farming and crypto must be in my DNA by this point 😅

heartybasiss

fraud was in DNA

Blooberino

Keep your eyes out for DNA Rogla next bull!

Abject-Government-13

Quantum computing has been active in the cryptocurrency realm for some time now in CytptoSeattle. Here at QT MudVana we have now mated AI with Quantum so that BTC exists now in our DNA. GATC has been converted with Biological Telomeres to form BTC. We are now part of the blockchain itself. Today's BTC price 2149 is $1,000,000,000,000.69 Note: Made this up, but I fully expect articles like this in the future.

kirtash93

It's time to take a DNA test and DYOR.

notneps

The theoretical limit to BTC is 21 million. With current technology, barring identical siblings or congential anomalies, the theoretical limit to number of kidneys with your DNA is two. You gonna give up 50% of the market cap of something you've got cornered?

_TheWolfOfWalmart_

Problem is I don't know how storage data in DNA could be read or written quickly enough.

mashiro1496

I dunno, but we might inprove data storage with utilizing DNA

telejoshi

DNA would be great. You could generate many private keys this way. Just give it to this 100% trustable company /s

User-Experience-69

All the people who ate the pizza should be pretty expensive now, lool, it's part of their DNA now.

topdollar3

Decentralization has always been the central part of the blockchain DNA

swap_catz

Companies stealing personal data of people from third world countries and using it to make billion dollar companies is nothing new. Check out how 23andMe got all their DNA data. The answer will surprise you.

F-machine

DNA test should solve this issue. Then send 1000 moons as settlement.

justquizle

Also since Nick Fury collected all the Avengers DNA we can have all the superpowers too!

Bear-Bull-Pig

Googled that for you. CRISPR, which stands for Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats, is a revolutionary gene-editing technology. It allows scientists to precisely modify the DNA of organisms, including humans, by cutting and replacing specific genes. CRISPR has the potential to treat genetic diseases, create genetically modified organisms, and advance our understanding of genetics and biology. It has garnered significant attention and raised ethical and regulatory considerations due to its powerful capabilities. All the things needed to create the million dollar man.

theycallmekimpembe

People will call me nuts for my plan B, however my plan B are my kids. I invest heavily into their sport. As being from the Caucasus fighting and wrestling is in our DNA. So essentially we built an extension to the garage and fully transformed it to a gym and training area. Apart from that obviously regular club sessions. And no I am not forcing them. I use them gym myself as well obviously.

tsuiteruze

Now you say it.... I think it was Microsoft who uploaded PDFs on DNA. Therefore, I think it's possible that a sperm could become a cold wallet. See where we are heading.