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InclineDumbbellPress

This space is so bipolar. Yesterday I read two articles saying she would be attending. How cool would it be to have her VS Trump talking Bitcoin. It would be huge. Now I see that it was just a rumor This is what they said: "Kamala Harris will not be speaking @TheBitcoinConf. No surprise. What can she say to us when she’s actively imprisoning developers, forcing our industry overseas, attacking PoW… it would have been a disaster for her."

InclineDumbbellPress

This space is bipolar. Just a few hours ago I read two articles saying she would be attending. How cool would it be to have her VS Trump talking Bitcoin. It would be huge. Now I see that it was just a rumor This is what they said: >

InclineDumbbellPress

This space is bipolar. Just a few hours ago I read two articles saying she would be attending. How cool would it be to have her VS Trump talking Bitcoin. It would be huge. Now I see that it was just a rumor This is what they said: >Kamala Harris will not be speaking TheBitcoinConf. No surprise. What can she say to us when she’s actively imprisoning developers, forcing our industry overseas, attacking PoW… it would have been a disaster for her.

kirtash93

Cangzhou Mighty Lions VS Shanghái Greenland Shenhua match result please

Busy-Assignment-440

With VS Code?

Tiny_Abroad8554

Yes, but not necessarily. In a VHCOL area, it is not uncommon for an average house to cost over $1m and a 3br rental (thinking of a family of 4) to be $4k/mo+. Add that those who earn more tend to grow their lifestyles. Everyone hustling or working stressful jobs likes to treat themselves, no matter what their income. As you grow your income, those treats become more expensive - ie all inclusive hotel VS Airbnb, or a BMW VS a Honda. Yes, it is a level of priority, but also not something anyone should judge, if they aren't living in that person's shoes.

kagenokurei

The nodes upholding/enforcing the consensus rules is what makes the network itself. No nodes means no network. Few nodes means small network. A lot of nodes means a large network. In a decentralized network, more nodes means more robust. A quick comparison/reference is the bittorrent network. The seeds of a given torrent is what makes up the network for whatever that shared file(s) is. More seeds means more robust. Imagine if you're part of the FBI and the shared file is some pirated stuff that needs to be taken down. It's a whole lot harder to take down the network of several seeds VS a couple seeds. Note that taking down in this context means the network should go down/offline. It's the same thing with the bitcoin network. More nodes mean it's harder to get it offline. Note that a 51% attack will never take the network down/offline. The goal of a 51% attack is to take over the power to write blocks. A 51% attacker still needs to follow the consensus rules enforced by the nodes. At best, what a 51% attacker could do is censor transactions. Even that censorship could only be fully enforced if the attacker controls 100% of the hashing power. It needs to be 100% because as long as someone else is able to mine their own block, they have a chance to be able to guess that valid hash that continues the chain. It doesn't have to spend tremendous amounts of energy. Just needs to be lucky. Extremely lucky. As proof, you can still see independent miners (miners not connected to a pool) lucking out a block. If the goal is to rewrite a portion of the blockchain (to revert/cancel/double spend a transaction), and keep it that way, the attacker will have to be able to sustain control of that 100% of the global hashing power then redirect it to start hashing away at that block they want altered. For reference on how much time is needed rewriting the whole BTC blockchain controlling 100% of the current global hashrate, please see https://fork.lol/security/chain. Less time for more recent blocks, of course. Even in the event that absolutely everyone stops mining, but keeps their node running, the bitcoin network is still considered online. People can still reference the blockchain to see the current utxo set and verify how much BTC they hold. People can actually still transact/send transactions due to how the mempool works. The only real issue in this event is double spending, which is what the mining/PoW addresses. The network is still online, though. TLDR; mining and just running a node secures the network in different ways. Mining prevents double spends/altering the data already written to the chain. The nodes make sure the network blockchain copy holders is there for the miners to mine blocks for.

Leownx

In case no one has noticed it is the $ will go to 0 VS BTC. Save yourself!

herefromyoutube

You want them to be securities because you’ll pay way lower tax rate. 0% or 15% VS 28% with making them commidities.

realbacktofuture

Huum. The Need VS greedy. That is good point!

way2calm

Value of this project is deffo $50M+ MC. The main difference is that they are transparent about their progress. VS projects with $100M+ MC which have been

bleuflamenc0

US stocks are a much better inflation hedge than gold. They have ads on Boomer TV talking up how if you bought gold in the early 70s VS staying in cash, how far ahead you would be. But they leave out the fact that stock market returns trounced gold during that time. The one trait gold has that trumps stocks is that its value is not, generally, tied to a functioning society or functioning government. Obviously, Bitcoin is superior in this regard. Probably the only real danger to Bitcoin is lack of electricity, although the algorithms would probably adjust and it would be fine.

Nearby_Courage5855

Correct, decentralization of the network is what was meant. In a 15-20 years future -or whenever wallets may be mainstream and folk use it as main safekeeping of their funds-, is it not a different exposure to risk to have the full control of your assets? In what way would one need to rethink security? Let's say you don't boast about it, but own a great house and have a good job. And Bitcoin wallets or whatever similar technology backed with a seed is used to keep your funds. Not too hard for someone to guess there's value to be found right there in that house? We're not in the disconnect "online and onchain" VS "real people and location" anymore. Is the above question clear enough? Bit confusing..

bananastand512

Two things today: BONK has a gigantic inverse H&S forming. The Biden VS Trump debate is tonight and I am going to make a giant bowl of popcorn to watch this telenovela.

GoharioFTW

Dawg it took me so long to learn that Crypto just simply isn't for everyone. It's waaaayyy more satisfying to just to silently show the results VS try to explain to people why its important.

fischer07

I believe there is a published study on lump sum VS dca large amounts in regards to traditional investments. IIRC, lump sum was the best way most of the time

GoharioFTW

Being honest here, this isn’t the sub to post this, ironically. This sub is more about hodling and/or fomo’ing in. Chart analysis and trading isn’t what’s popular for this coin on this sub, too many crypto normies to get past; as you can tell by the responses trying to gaslight you into thinking the results you’ve earned for yourself recently apparently aren’t real. Anyways, continuing my honesty here, trading is gambling to an EXTENT, but I don’t consider it pure gambling. The reasoning here is that it is true that you will never be able to 100% guarantee a specific price action all the time. But, with optimal analysis, you can maybe get up to like 60 to 70% of the time. This means you will ultimately fail at moments, but there’s many times when you won’t (when you know what you’re doing), which is what makes me say it’s up to an extent. What I’ll also say is that trading can 1000% be gambling if you WANT it to be. But anyway, Any seasoned trader in crypto will never deny that there’s a cyclical nature to bitcoin, and by extension, the crypto market overall. Certainly. There’s a difference between me chucking 1000 dollars at some random time and closing my eyes for the next few days/weeks and then selling whatever I have VS me taking into account previous bull runs price action, post halving bull runs price action, outside catalysts such as BTC etfs, the halving, official bank interest rates, emotional sentiment of the market in general, other BTC related news, and then DCA’ing that 1000 dollars in on top of all that. What I will agree with is that the perspective these other replies have concerning the person who taught you chart analysis for a price aren’t completely wrong about it sounding like a grift or something because I personally believe you can find out majority of those things for free online, especially just the bare basics for resistance and support lines. You were able to find the value and make use of it, while many others could be told those same things and still struggle. In other words, just having that knowledge by itself isn’t a guarantee to make money trading, it takes the necessary experience and skill to do so, So good for you on that. So anyway, ultimately, I’ve learned that Crypto isn’t for everyone and that most normies who don’t have it in them to make money for themselves aren’t gonna understand what you’re trying to say anyways, so there’s no real point to try to convince them it’s not purely gambling. They are much easier to convince when you have documented results for yourself. The most I’d say if you really wanted to try convincing someone is to open up a full chart of BTC and point to each halving year and then look about 500ish days after the halving that points to BTC being near or at it’s respective ATH for that post-halving year and ask them is this just mere coincidence that it’s gone up at similar times and ask them what they think will happen this year? And from that little prediction, explain to them that there’s a TON of other big and small catalysts that power your reasoning for trading just like this one. And then, point to some random spot on the chart and say “now what if I invested 1000 dollars here and never looked at the chart ever again and then sold no matter what I had in a month” and then ask them to compare which strategy is gambling: the one where you’re comparing previous cycles and current outside catalysts and slowly break your way in VS the one where you literally just randomly toss 1000 dollars and pray.

Lekje

you ver to keep the whole block reward VS block reward share - pool fees

YouAreAnFnIdiot

That's when this shit will go parabolic, when the least amount of people on planet earth can benefit from it, also bc it will go up VS. Worthless fiat. It's just a matter of waiting now for that perfect storm to happen. Might happen now or in 25 years

Street_Broccoli4027

Right, random Redditor saying something totally proves your point VS trillion dollar entity shake my fucking head 

Fiach_Dubh

Bitcoin Clips This Week: Andreas VS Saylor on Larger Blocks, Bitcoin Mining, Wisconsin Pension Fund & More https://youtu.be/ZgEqxK19rWI?si=5O_O0aVGx-YSW6Cq

Fiach_Dubh

Bitcoin Clips This Week: Andreas VS Saylor on Larger Blocks, Bitcoin Mining, Wisconsin Pension Fund & More https://youtu.be/ZgEqxK19rWI?si=5O_O0aVGx-YSW6Cq

Fiach_Dubh

BITCOIN to $5,000,000 ? Chamath VS Wences Bitcoin Price Prediction - Post Halving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ofaUwIvXA

Fiach_Dubh

BITCOIN to $5,000,000 ? Chamath VS Wences Bitcoin Price Prediction - Post Halving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ofaUwIvXA

NoesisAndNoema

The sad part is that some of the coins were used on silk-road, and those coins were "auctioned off" by the US government, selling stolen property instead of returning it to the owners. They KNEW that some of the coins were part of the MtGox theft. If the people on the block-chain decided that the coins should be returned, or "held" until legal recovery, that would really mess things up. Every lost coin could actually have been recovered and the losses pushed to the people who accepted the "stolen coins" as payments for goods and services. (Minus the coins that were never spent, which could be blocked or setup to ONLY be spent into a regulated account by the agent handling the recovery.) We lost a great deal of potential here for "self regulation", with assistance. (At the highest level, where it is 100% confirmed that illegal activity, related to theft and losses. VS tampering with illegal sales, which is not something that the chain should be messing with. But, illegal transfers should be mitigated, as they did when people were using block-chain attacks to steal coins.) I'm waiting for the first coin to have a 2-step authorization to confirm every transaction. Even from third-party release. Something that would stop most exploitations of exchanges being hacked and stop foul exchanges from spending our deposited coins. They couldn't move them without the auth from us, and in the time period of a year, if not "refreshed", the coins would automatically return back to the origin or the initial transfer would be scrubbed, as if it never took place. Also, exchanges should have to prove that they actually have XXX coins and XXX currency "in hand", at any time. So we can tell that they are not just fake exchanges with fake prices, doing pay-forward transactions and fake volumes of trades. Being able to see an exchange being "drained", would have offered another level of protection for the exchanges themselves. Gox would have known after the first double-withdrawal, that it was being drained.

GER4SOUL

It really can be. But on this world must be only happiness and human-kind. In that case we don't need btc VS bastards. The bank guy is a gay. He will fk himself untill he get to 0$

bleuflamenc0

Well I meant more like, the ads you hear on radio and TV. Usually targeted towards Boomers. Buy gold, buy annuities. There was one with Pat Sajak talking about if you'd bought gold in the early 70s VS holding cash. Well the real story there is that if you bought stocks or real estate in the early 70s, your gains would have well outpaced the tepid gains of gold. And I think gold has less of a future as a store of value now than it did then.

Huge_Monero_Shill

4 year degree VS ChatGPT4o tutor.

ArseholeryEnthusiast

This is what you would call a nice indicator. But just that. It's always supply VS DEMAND. The demand has basically sat still outside of the etf pump. If we get a bull run though and demand increases significantly the lower supply will then come in to account. If the supply remains low. But you need both. For literally everything not just btc.

rangerpunk

Trezor VS ledger?

Maximum_Vast

Hyperbitcoinazation... Or maybe just Better general education and understanding of monetary/financial systems at the least. what fun to go down the rabbit hole of money printing and reserve banking VS blockchain and proof of work as an idiot adult. Otherwise, ideally bitcoin becoming a standard and secure store of value.

dvsbyknight

No. I keep the bulk in cold storage & a small amount in a hot wallet on my phone for easy spending & just refill that occasionally when it gets low. The decision on whether to keep small balances of alts in cold storage is just based on weighing convenience VS risk. I don't sweat small balances being in a hot wallet, but what constitutes "small balances" will be different for everyone. $1,000 may be trivial for one person but really significant for another. Cold storage is ideal but (the reputable) hot wallets are still pretty secure. The only truly terrible place to store it is on a custodial wallet. IMO, the security improvement when going from a custodial wallet to a hot wallet is enormous, whereas going from hot wallet to cold storage is still significant but not as significant as the former. On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd put custodial wallets at 2, hot wallets at 7, hardware wallets at 9 & true cold storage at 10.

Adamn27

"NBS MFG PMI 50.4 VS 50.3 RTRS POLL, 50.8 IN MAR" The numbers Mason?

wood8

They get the same reward no matter 1 miner is mining or 1 million miners are mining. Getting 10 million, paying 5 million. VS Getting 10 million, paying 0.1 million. Which one do you think "open market competition" will choose?

godofleet

can't deny it's a possibility... but it's mostly moot. optionality or as some see it, freedom- is paramount. bitcoiner's CHOOSE to adopt/use/place value in decentralized money that can't be debased VS being coerced/influenced into using centralized fiat money that guarantees X% debasement and historically hyper inflationary empire-ending crashes... the point is, you can choose a life boat that might sink over the titanic that IS clearly sinking.

fieldsofthecrypt

when BTC is cloud based what are the pros and cons for using a cloud based wallet VS the usual trezor type hardware wallet?

whereismyface_ig

If everyone had BTC and used it to purchase items, that would only inflate the price of said products. BTC isn’t owned by everyone at the moment, and isn’t being used to purchase everyday products widely. When it happens widely, the cost of goods will adjust to the change. The price of BTC has been controlled since 2017. People who buy bottoms and sell tops have been tracking institutional rotations for a while now. It’s no coincidence that when institutions are heavily loading up on BTC that within a year later, BTC exits its bear market, and when institutions sell, that BTC’s bull market ends. It’s everyone VS ALADDIN. Every buy/sell affects price action, yes, but the highest buy/sell that change the market cap the most are the ones that dictate the price most since they cause a trickle down effect. I think when you think “control price” you think ppl mean that institutions just manually change the number… no that’s not what “controlling the price” means… controlling the price is manipulating the price between price points for either accumulation (keeping the price low by creating a ton of sell walls) or off-loading (keeping the price stuck at a high range so they can max out profits by keeping large buy walls, but then removing them, which makes the price crash). It’s all in the order books. As far as BTC benefiting the most instead lf the few— If Institutions own most of the BTC, then guess what? BTC will be benefitting the few, as most of the BTC won’t be in the hands of retail.

editjs

I don't think they accurately visually represented the 21,505 percent increase in pizza that bitcoin will get you today VS 2012....def misleading. There was 1x pizza to start and at the end there were about 80x pizza's on the moped. There should have been 21505 pizza's on the moped...this is the problem with bitcoin, no one really understands it.

ItWillPrint

Total cost of loan by the end. VS what BTC would need to be worth to have more than that amount

fischer07

Has anyone done a deep dive on comparing multisig VS Shamir using a cold storage device for the purpose of inheritance planning?

Standard_Stomach_830

I advise you to learn more about bitcoin VS alt cycle. Benjamin cowen on YouTube can you learn a bit regarding this topic ;)

JanRosk

At the moment - 77,5% failed txns VS 22,5% successful txns This is a ridiculous rate. Very sus. I don't care if candles go up for a while. Stability is most important ... I sell my SOL now. Done...

Wonderful_Fun543

11,558 post karma/702 comment karma (VS.) 21 post karma/9 comment karma......

FRONTowardsEnemy

The transactions from the Poloniex exchage did transfer to a similar web site Coinbase has a partnership with. It has a free trial. It could not pull data from Binance and Biance wont let me generate an APK file. The diffrence in the price of the coin bought in 2016 VS what it was when i traded for Litecoin on Biance is substantial, but i can only prove what the cost was when sent from the exchange to coinbase. Thank you for your response and for not asking for my wallet address and 12 words phrase in Private message. I wonder if that ever works.

PhotonicDestroyer

Yay! Now tell me they have a VS Code extension with code completion and I'll be all over it.

TheThirdHippo

Check out BNANA/SOL on DEX Screener! https://dexscreener.com/solana/3c8PZjsAPma6nuXNq7f3WiCXHv3VS5YkEGw83Ckw3ZFQ

Zipski577

What do you mean it beats out every other investable asset on the planet by every metric? You are referring to performance metrics. Past performance does not represent future results. And as someone mentioned, even that is not true when someone mentioned that NVDA (and a multitude of other AI/ tech/ biotech stocks have outperformed it with much higher sharpe ratio and overall risk profile). - Over the last 10 years BTC has annualized 62% VS 67% for NVDA. - Over 5 years, BTC is 74% VS 83% for NVDA - 3 years: BTC 13% VS. 80% for NVDA - YTD: BTC 46% and NVDA 60% Whatever models you are talking about are not forecasts, they are measuring past performance. At one point in time, Tulip Bulbs were the top investment in all the metrics you mentioned and outperformed all assets over several all trailing periods. Now, I am heavily invested and believe in Bitcoin. I agree with a lot of what you are saying but I do have concerns and for the purpose of “debate,” past performance is an easy one for people to push back on.

Derpikhastaj2

Sold my TRAC for AIOZ, and thankful I did. 1.5x TRAC VS 5x AIOZ gains in last month.

Littlenerd14

Tyson VS Paul

Pisten_Bully

I think you’ll find that Trump, this very week was blowing his own trumpet about how quickly he got the vaccines through. He also took umbrage with Biden taking credit for ending the pandemic, while using the president's exact words. "'The Pandemic no longer controls our lives. The Vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to help beat Cancer – Turning setback into comeback!' YOU'RE WELCOME, JOE, NINE MONTH APPROVAL TIME VS. 12 YEARS THAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN YOU!" he wrote in his Truth Social post on Thursday that has been liked more than 22,000 times. 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

cr__ked

Can any ADA bros help me out? Is staking on Exodus VS Yoroi a big % difference?

Amber_Sam

Senile goldbug VS shitcoin scammer

leggenda_69

Microstragery hitting financial issues then dumping massive amounts of BTC. Or even just deciding to reduce its crypto exposure would hit sentiment and markets hard. Extreme volatility returns to BTC blackrock etc decide to pull the ETF’s pay out clients then cut loses and dump all the acquired BTC back onto the market. Tether actually not having sufficient liquidity and it going down similar to FTX. But on a much larger scale. Satoshi’s wallets becoming active placing massive sell orders. 1 of those things happening causing a domino effect of the others. Outside of the exclusive crypto sphere, Trump getting into office cutting all aid to Ukraine to stop the war giving Russia the win which would hit markets hard. And would probably lead to an eventual deployment of NATO troops and proper European/world VS Russia+China war. Or even if Ukraine is just defeated it’ll be terrible for markets. The entire geo political situation feels like it’s on a knife edge at the moment which could cause massive waves through any and every financial instrument.

Amber_Sam

**3 months VS 10 years** Also, Ledger is only 10 years old so it's kind of forever so far.

FYATWB

In the previous run there were crypto youtubers like datadash shilling their ADA bags, the same way there are people in this thread doing the same. OP is using a common tactic in this post to “start a conversation”, because they are “just asking questions”, when in reality they are trying to drag in the next bag holders. Don’t believe me? Look at the tone of the post VS their comments > But why does Cardano face such backlash? > I’m curious to understand the reasons behind the criticisms Then in the comments > Personally I love Cardano’s staking mechanism. It’s liquid and never leaves your wallet! 🙌🏻 What’s not to love about that! This is a thinly veiled shill post, we get it you have heavy bags and you’re praying you get back somewhere close to ATH so you can dump those bags onto the next sucker. Cardano doesn’t have network effect, people would rather pay higher fees than transact on a dead chain.

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itllbefine21

I do understand what you are saying, please go to your county website and look up your property value. Generally the physical house loses value over time vs the land value. Not always, in every case, but in general most work this way. The age of the house, plumbing system, electrical system, structure etc are all aging and dropping in value. Even the style of a house can be become outdated and will get torn down as a full remodel with old bones is more expensive than new. Add to that compliance with newer codes. VS. Land- they're not making more of it. Someplace like say Florida, or maybe because of inflation the value of the structure might go up over time but I bet if you look at your values the land is becoming more of the value vs the house. Or maybe a simpler way to say it- the land value inflates faster than the house.

bleakj

Like, % gain VS BTC? It'd definitely be much lower in that sense, I'm comparing fiat cost vs current value, If I was comparing vs how much gain vs BTC in same time, I'd have to check, as it's usually only sudden spikes on shit coins/meme gambling that I'm getting a flash 10x, sell then it's over, longer holds like ADA/SOL/ETH/DOT, im definitely up on, but I'd wager only sol/eth might have similar gains to BTC for me.

Due_Cheetah_377

Your the one making the comparison to the entire US equities market VS BTCs gains being 400%. You can't look at the rise without also looking at the fall.

Bandit_Quick

Named after a character in an old TV Detective sitcom? Barney Miller I think VS Kojak the Teddy Savales one

metahipster1984

What makes it so effective in capturing waste energy VS other "industries"? Is it because you can easily scale up by bringing more ASICs online when the time is right or something else?

Salty-barber-nz

Ben Armstrong VS United States???

nigel_chua

Ya it's a different function - earning with a good skill(s) VS investing/?speculate with BTC Here is a BOTH are good situation

DryArea5752

You could go the traditional way and buy BTC from a centralized exchange... Or you could seek out hidden markets and buy some BTC that was mined and sold discreetly.... Someday there's going to be an absolute monster of a market for BTC that was mined with the intended purpose of keeping the initial miners identity hidden and keeping it's status reputable. - BTC can and will be blacklisted in the future. Just use any BTC that transacted on silk road as an example, there will always be watchful eyes on those tokens. And with governments having access to ever vigilant AI and extremely diverse opinions, it's highly likely in the future certain markets ban crypto outright and a mass populous will have to utilize evasive techniques just to spend their currency, often times presumably having to go through a shady money broker or tumblers for some wrapped version, tainting the pool even more. - Also take custody of your tokens. Don't leave them on an exchange. Get a digital wallet and keep what you want to spend there, or get a cold storage offline wallet and keep some there. Or if ultra paranoid, just fully go paper wallet and never tell a soul. --The world is full shifting into Axis V Allies again, where the Axis is Socialism, Communism, and Authoritarianism all VS Democracy. Covid proved just how hyperconnected the world is. ----Also learn what DEFI is and lending pools are.

sgtslaughterTV

I've seen a BSV YouTuber that took a picture of Michael sailor and called him the world's largest fraud. I was genuinely curious about what this guy was talking about so I clicked the video then I saw he was shilling BSV and the copa VS Craig wright trial.

DigStock

My two cents is that a lot of people misunderstand the difference between Ripple/XRP. When you hear about partnerships its usually not involving XRP. Ripple the company VS XRP the cryptocurrency RippleNet might be used by a certain amount of institutions, however the use of xrp for liquidity or cross border payments isn't really being used and of course this might change, but xrp is never gonna make you rich if that's why you invest, its supposed to be a stable token at best and making cash for the Ripple company behind it. XRP has a premined supply of 100 Billion. Even though it's supposed to be slightly deflationary it isn't exactly scarce like Bitcoin or Ethereum. The biggest winner with XRP is the Ripple company behind it, they're periodically releasing more xrp and using the funds to invest in their core business which doesn't involve XRP. Its a genius idea, since they're getting financed by small people like you hoping it will go to the moon one day, basically printing money out of small crypto investors for their real business. So if you invest 1k hoping it becomes 20k one day I'd say that's very very very very unlikely. And its a very risky investment. But if you're a good day trader making money on the volatility then why not.

Large-Dog7216

Mining VS Trading

Apprehensive_Host397

" SPARKS FLY AT DECENTRAL MIAMI - BITBOY CRYPTO VS. HECKLER IN THE AUDIENCE " On YouTube. It´s glorious. The man deserves everything that is happening to him now.

Amber_Sam

Overall, this is good for Bitcoin. Let them write whatever they want, while Bitcoin keeps doing what it does best, new blocks every ten minutes on average. One day they all will wake up and see the truth for themselves. Example from last year: [US’s credit rating got downgraded again](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/02/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html) VS [El Salvador’s Rating Raised by S&P on Local Debt Refinancing](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-07/el-salvador-s-rating-raised-by-s-p-on-local-debt-refinancing)

LordBobTheWhale

Yeah ppl saying to just rollover aren't being helpful unless it's a former 401k sitting around from a previous employer and then there's still tax implications if going from traditional to Roth and also whether or not some or all of the assets would be liquidated VS in kind. Assuming it's a current 401k, I would lower my contributing amount to the max amount matched, and then put what I was going to thought at my 401k into an IRA with the BTC ETF instead. So like my matching is 5% so I only contribute that amount and not over so I can put the rest elsewhere on my own.

Blikmeister

I never said anything about the future, future is bright. Yesterday was the pivot in terms of outflow VS inflow. GBTC is slowing down and there ain’t no stopping the new bitcoin ETFs

sgtslaughterTV

> It's highlighting than despite the Chinese crypto ban grey markets within China are still in operation which was always going to be the case. Right so I have an undergraduate degree in Chinese language and literature and I lived in China for over a year and Taiwan for 8 years. I'm going to say this again to your point and double down on mine: There is literally nothing new in the article. Most people who don't live in Asia or don't know anything about Chinese politics are lost in "Disney magic" of China. Hong Kong is China but not China. You have pseudo freedoms in Hong Kong so long as you are not too vocally against the CCP. Everybody born in Hong Kong has both a Chinese Passport and a Hong Kong Passport. There's a different currency and a pseudo independent government. And having been there myself before I can tell you that you can surf the internet without a VPN and access many Western websites without issue. The Finance News about using alley pay to invest in their platform has been a thing since 2018 or 2019. In fact I remember there was a tweet from binance saying that their users could use Alipay to buy crypto on their website and then Alipay shot back at them on Twitter saying no the users cannot, trying to exert control. This article literally says nothing new, it simply states how Bitcoin performs as an asset VS traditional Hong Kong / China investor assets. They pull in everyone's attention by using the term China in the title of the article, Following the story of 1 of 8 million Hong Kongers in china, vs. the other 1.42 billion people in china. Literally. nothing. new.

Tropic_Tsunder

value can be created artificialy. intrinsic value is a natural base property of anything. Like how a fancy steak at a steakhouse might cost 100$ and provide 1000 calories of nutrition to a person. but you could buy that same 1000 calorie steak from a butcher for, say, 25$ and cook it yourself. So despite the VALUE of that steakhouse dinner being 100$, in terms of foods most basic core use (providing nutrition to sustain life), the steakhouse dinner has no more INTRINSIC VALUE to human survival over the 25$ steak you cook yourself. they both provide you with 1000 calories of sustinence, so at their core one does not have any more or less absolute value to survival over the other. they both provide equal nutrition keep you alive. so the 75$ difference between the 25$ steak you buy at the butcher and cook yourself, and the 100$ steakhouse steak is purely artifical value. that value is created through having fancy decor and nice candle on the table and whatnot. But the basic core value of that 100$ steakhouse dinner is no better at helping you survive than the base cost of the steak you make yourself. Sure, there is obviously value in a nice dining experience. proven by the fact that we have nice dining experiences. but if society collapsed and you were barely able to survive and were on the verge of starvation, you would never trade the shirt on your back for 1 fancy 100$ steakhouse dinner when you could instead trade it for 4 dinners worth of steak to cook yourself. thats the intrinsic value. you will always need food to survive, and if it really came down to it on a deserted island, 4 steaks are better than 1 steak, which is why intrinsically the value of the fancy steak is not really any more than the plain steak. same would apply to designer jeans VS plain costco brand jeans. sure, the designer jeans have more value because of branding and advertising and whatnot, but the core base function of clothes are to protect us from the elements. if you were a homeless person who was cold every night and didnt have any pants, would you would never pay 5x more for the jeans with the fancy logo on them over the plain jeans without the branding. because the intrinsic value of jeans is keeping you warm and protected, and the fancy jeans dont serve that function any better. They have more value artifically in society, but if society changed or collapsed they would lose that value. whereas the costco jeans would always have that same base intrinsic value from the real function the serve you at their core.

meeok2

For me it would depend on the total amount of interest paid VS the potential gain of keeping the BTC, whichever is greater.

GodBlessYouNow

I view it like decentralized power VS centralized power.

benskieast

Yes, but Bitcoin ETFs are charging 10X the fees and S and P 500 funds are. They need to fell a lot for it to be a reduction VS there bread and butter, before accounting for them broadening there market base.

d8_thc

REQUIRING custodians is not how I envisioned bitcoin evolving. That's a huge surface for KYC / censorship and the like, especially when they are the only option. What's to stop governments from enforcing rules now that there are parties to target? VS Onchain - _permissionless. AFAIR - this was one of the major promises of the bitcoin revolution.

dashed-slug

The bitcoin network is secured by proof of work, but I wouldn't say that work gives value to the currency per se. The last point about value is basically the Subjective theory of value versus the Labor theory of value. Aka the old free market VS socialism debate. Do things get value just because someone worked hard to make them? Or do individuals demand things based on their personal, subjective value system, and then the market forms prices based on supply and demand? Personally I am not interested to try to change anyone's religious beliefs on this topic. But just saying that bitcoin or gold has value because of work, is not self evident. I much prefer Satoshi's argument about a boring gray, rare, easily divisible metal with this one special magical property: transmissibility over a communication channel.

Digitaljehw

After using the instructions from [https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/bd5dys/restore\_parity\_wallet\_from\_mnemonic\_option\_not/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/bd5dys/restore_parity_wallet_from_mnemonic_option_not/) and Downloading [https://github.com/MyEtherWallet/etherwallet/releases/tag/v3.9.0](https://github.com/MyEtherWallet/etherwallet/releases/tag/v3.9.0) paritywallet. I opened the index.html file with VS Code as a live server as well as locally; it would allow me to Decrypt the wallet successfully with the parity phrase but, would not load eth balance in Wallet or Connect the Any eth networks So this is what I did to fix it: 1. Downloaded fether wallet [https://github.com/openethereum/fether/releases](https://github.com/openethereum/fether/releases) 2. Used parity phrase to decrypt and load the account – will not sync to mainnet but that’s ok. 3. Click top right and “**Backup Account**” 4. This will Export the accounts original JSON file 5. Enter a password. 6. Save the json File 7. Open metamask 8. Import an account using a JSON File 9. Enter Password just created the JSON file. 10. Boom your money!

IncognitoWarrior

Play baccarat with 007 and pick up a VS model in a convertible. You missed these.

TrustM3EzMoney

If everybody is a millionaire then that is the new average you will need a billion,trillion in your bank accounts to live comfortably understand it’s just as hard staying rich VS staying poor this guy pressured to sell for an L who’s buying it losing all your money my be a blessing for you you just don’t know it yet

thesign180

Reminds me of the Depo VS Herd trial. Pledging means jackshit unless you actually do it. In this case I’m sure Logan is just out to reassure people he stole from / generate some positive press.

SameWeekend13

What is the long VS short ratio for BTC ? Can someone elaborate ?

fischer07

Agree. I would lump sum at this point. Research tends to agree that statistically, lump sum investing yields higher returns. Statistically in this context doesn't mean you'll be on the winning side. Just that if a lot of people lumped in right now VS dca, more would be on the winning side than the losing side. It's all about risk management

MayoSoup

Heroin addiction Age 12, Cost over time VS Heroin addiction Age 23, Cost over time Yep seems apparent.

majorpickle01

>SOL and ETH are not "utilities". They are platforms that operate on the Internet I don't think being a platform and being a utility is exclusive. I'd argue even that they aren't a platform in the sense of an OS - they are two mutually exclusive decentralized utility protocols/ In the early days of of the telephone you'd have individual companies running their own private lines, but they were still providing a utility. ETH and SOL resemble that very much right now. They are two competing utility providers. Of course, where you chose to split that line between platform and utility is entirely subjective and you are more than welcome to reject my catagorization. >There's space for both because they offer different trade offs. ETH offers real yields and a store of value in exchange for slower throughput and higher fees. SOL is not a "store of value", and the real yields are 0 or negative (lower than inflation). But it's super fast and cheap. ETH is also easier/cheaper to "decentralize" for the moment. As I said "long term". Currently I agree with you fully there is room for both in the medium term because they cater to different needs (Ethereum prioritizing decentralized access to the chain VS Solana priotizing ease of use and cost). But the long term vision of the modular future is to resemble a monothlic chain via interoperability. The idea is to get the system of rollups so indistinguishable from a single chain that the average user doesn't even realise they might be using a rollup. >So the obvious use case is that ETH is more of a "finance" ecosystem whereas SOL is better for things that go fast/need a lot of throughput (gaming, gambling, HFT shitcoins). I disagree. On l1 sure, but as a network? Look at something like ImmutableX. Now image so when fees on L2 drop massively due to danksharding. Again, I am talking future, not now. As it stands right now Solana IS better placed for that, presuming Devs are happy with the long tail risk of economic stability of the SOL network

Wendals87

>E-mail used to be the same way in the early days. You had to host your own smtp/pop server. Now days you don't even think about it. This leads to the centralised VS decentralised debate. Bitcoin was originally designed so you are your own bank and have complete control over the assets. Some people are hard core for decentralisation and self custody and refuse to leave their assets in the hands of anyone else. Others want someone to take care of it for them, have support etc

mrkisswell

It used to get shilled alot by Bitboy which provided me with the first reason to dislike Solana, but when I was comparing it to Algorand - which IMO is a superior L1 on all metrics VS pretty much any other blockchain - then you realise there's just simply no reason to like the centralised, Silicon Valley hyped up, slow-arse (compared to algo) pile of junk chain that is Solana. It has no actual USP.

GroovyInvestments

I don’t know about bots, but there are some very interesting Ai projects that you may want to consider doing some research into. One of them is called Mozaic finance, they use their AI to yield farm. Has a very good team behind it, definitely recommend something like that VS a trading bot. There are a few other AI projects out there, but Mozaic is probably one of the most interesting IMO!

SwordmanGuts

DCA. We still have a long way to go until new all time highs. You won't get as much profits if you buy now VS a few weeks ago, but you still have a chance to at least 2x or 3x most coins. The S&P 500's return averages about 10% after inflation correction, so you still would beat the market by a long shot.

GringoGrip

A yes, the elite working together harmoniously, and not trying to slit each other's throats to amass more power for themselves. Even if we indulge the fantasy world of elites VS the rest of us, I don't see why they wouldn't utilize quantum cryptography to protect themselves against other elites.

MaxSmart1981

another employment data metric came through under expectations (meaning less likely a rate hike): U.S ADP NONFARM EMPLOYMENT CHANGE (NOV) ACTUAL: 103K VS 113K PREVIOUS; EST 130K

UnwindingThree8

Buy alts with Fiat instead of btc. Sell those alts for btc when it's goes up VS btc

EvilLost

You realize that the majority of people who lose money do so because they are the weak point right? How many wallets have been hacked VS how many people have willingly given yo their seeds to hackers

Mojicana

Compare the idea of one of two government approved tax preparation computer programs VS a super smart Cuban American in Miami who hates governments in general and knows everything about tax law and all of the completely legal loopholes.