VS

Eurothrift

Safe haven or under the radar payment options against tariff-mania? Real price VS. Invoice price lowers the damage.

intelw1zard

none. Web3 gaming is a gimmick imo. Only useful for people who live in 3rd world countries and could make $5-$10/day from playing a crap tier web3 game for 8 hours VS working a irl job in their country. example: axie infinity or that sunflower game on Polygon

intelw1zard

> Additionally, they provide one of the highest interest rates for cryptocurrency stablecoins this seems more like a warning flag VS a flex or something that makes them a good platform

SmoothGoing

[Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty."

SmoothGoing

Don't get scammed. [Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others, older types, but don't recommend them.

intelw1zard

Steroids VS meth pipe

SmoothGoing

[Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others, older types, but don't recommend them.

JumpProfessional3372

The more people get into it. I think the more stability it will get. But at the same time that will reduce the price going down. At some point maybe people will decide between getting BTC, low risk, low returns and no inflation. VS some riskier financial investment that is based on FIAT (so inflation as a cost), maybe some custody costs, and they'll decide between the difference between BTC vs this.

CamilloWiz

This sub is officially sooooo lost! Doomsday VS. Too The Moon on a daily fucking basis. 😆😆😆 Greetings from Germany you complete idiots! 💜💜💜

CamilloWiz

This sub is officially sooooo lost! Doomsday VS. Too The Moon on a daily fucking basis. 😆😆😆 Greetings from Germany you complete idiots! 💜💜💜

CamilloWiz

This sub is officially sooooo lost! Doomsday VS. Too The Moon on a daily fucking basis. 😆😆😆 Greetings from Germany you complete idiots! 💜💜💜

manifestDensity

You lose all credibility when you try to pretend that the constant stream of these posts in every financial sub is organic. It is clearly an organized push. And I said nothing about patriotism. I was talking about real empathy VS performative empathy that serves to hurt the common people

Amber_Sam

I think he's trying to downplay the power Bitcoin has VS the dollar just to sell the idea of Bitcoin to anyone listening. At least until the majority of dollar maxis won't be able to do anything but adopt the new money.

riscten

Yeah, just drag and drop the file in VS Code (or File -> Open).

Accomplished_Luck195

So just go on VS file and move it in there to see? so new to this shit and so angry at myself

riscten

This is what makes most people here believe it's a scam. Only older versions of the Bitcoin Core software uses wallet.dat. Have you tried opening that plane_wallet file in a text editor (like VS Code) to see what's in there?

RetroFutureCore

Yes, 👆👆 Jeff Booth discusses this in his book, the "us VS them" mentality so as to divide and gain control over people.

Dhaupin

I had to make a seperate reply for the interface hehe. Here are some thoughts to look at when choosing.... Off the hip - What sort of proof mechanism? - How cheap is a tx, transfer, mint, etc? - How fast does it happen? - How speedy are apps on the layer? - What kinda utilization is the network at VS current volitility? - How many nodes are there running? - What is the cost for running node hardware? - What are past examples of outages and how they were handled? - What kind of transparency, development, and auditing has happened? There's more, but those are def L1 considerations

PreventableMan

While the enshittification of the subreddit started with Moons, the us Vs them (either be it politics or My Crypto VS yours) and inability to think critically has its place amongst the reasons.

SamuelBrault03

I don't know where that girl is but if yall want a risk-free way to get started in crypto id say Pi network is the way. 1 tap a day and you mine crypto on your phone. Now that they have paved the way there are so many projects like it coming up. I have compiled a list with my referral codes for you guys to use! Have you guys heard of Cpen Network? Still early and is set to launch in Q1 of 2026. Early predictions are talking about a starting price of $1. If you started early or late on Pi. Don't miss this chance ************** Cpen Network Referral code: samb03 Other similar projects and referral codes ⬇️⬇️⬇️ Rubi Network: NMJWISJDBJ Bee Network: samb03 BlockDAG x1 miner app: SXUa5k3e Crypto Mayors by ICE Open Network: samb03 Co-met Network: samb03 Hi Network: H0MUA4X3 Dino Network [Polygonscan]: samb03 Krypton Network: samb03 LITCHI Coin: samb03 Qubit Network: samb03 Rabit Network: samb03 Remint: VS3Z4B7X Omega Network: samb03 Unich Trade Crypto [mining]: samb03 Alfa Network: samuel03 Sato Cash: samb03 Delta.kim [Delta Coin] Referrer DID: UU9FVQ4EL20LG Pi Network: SamuelBrault **************** I might add more or remove some in the future. My mindset behind having so many is that with Pi Network breakthrough we now know sky is the limit. Most these projects are fairly new and will have to prove themselves. But in the meantime... let's mine in hope 💯🚀

Huge_Monero_Shill

\-500 USD VS 25 years of free room and board and government-enforced diamond hands!

Chex76

Bitcoin would have to pump over 500k to get anywhere close to the ROI that can be had by many low market cap projects. Researching projects partnerships and investors gives a good idea of serious up and comers VS pipe dreams.

BE_Art87

VS btc

SmoothGoing

Bitcoin is not going away. If you plan to interact with it at some point, for fun or profit, hardware wallet is a great tool. RTFM on how to use it, don't fall for "validate wallet" scams, never reveal your mnemonic and store it safely. [Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others, older types, but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

[Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others, older types, but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

[Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others, older types, but don't recommend them.

DookieMcCallister

It’s not a very technical answer. What’s to be gained/lost by pulling out VS continuing to fund it?

EyeofOscar

Soyjak fiat-loving 'inflate me harder daddy' skeptic VS UltramegaGigachad sat dippity-dip stacker

SmoothGoing

[Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others, older types, but don't recommend them.

Mrjingle24

You think about diamond hands VS tissue paper hands. And you hodl

godofleet

I think that's essentially/mildly what this thread *is, along with literally countless similar tabloids* **and what meaningful (and measurable!) impact have any of those had?** Put another way, I'm not saying it **wouldn't** grow the userbase, just probably not by a significant or measurable amount... And as time (and bitcoin) marches forward, who would continue to continue to care (and act/buy or sell), with this information top-of-mind. I think "Bitcoin at 10k" ... "Bitcoin at 100k" ... "Bitcoin hat "250k" grows the user base WAY more effectively/reliably ... Alongside various educational or otherwise inspiring "how bitcoin works/rocks" and "why you should learn about bitcoin" media... People will stack sats whether they understand it or not (lord knows plenty don't understand fiat), but knowing/learning what they're placing their purchasing power in is something many people will desire to grasp... VS cheap tabloids and tabloid-level understandings. *Just waking up and rereading my sleepy posts from yesterday, I hope i'm not coming across as disrespectful/condescending in any of this, apologies if so.*

Aggressive-Bull-BTC

Bitcoin is a totally independent and very different universe VS all the cryptocurrencies that exist today that are the copy, of the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy of Bitcoin.

GivePeaceaChancex10

Here's the catch though that some are not considering or may not want to hear. I entered all info into ChatGPT and what's surprising is what can happen with tax advantaged accounts, specifically my 401k that others may have access to. I get a 50% employer match on contributions with no salary cap, only capped by IRS contribution limits. A 401k is also using pre-tax dollars reducing you taxable income by whatever amount you are contributing. So I had ChatGPT calculate Jan 1st 2015- Jan 1st 2025 VOO held in my 401k with a 50% match and taking account for the reduced tax burden with using pretax dollars and maxing out contributions each year to the IRS limit of each of those years VS investing the same amounts myself into Bitcoin. (minus matching that's not there or pretax contributions) Here are the results: "Final Insights: With the 401(k) contributions and employer match included in the VOO scenario, the total value after 10 years is $611,866.06. Bitcoin still grows significantly, but your total Bitcoin investment would be $576,650 after 10 years. So, the VOO strategy with employer matching and tax savings investment results in a slightly higher total value after 10 years than Bitcoin, despite Bitcoin’s higher potential returns."- ChatGPT So when you look at the full picture and have something like my employer matching 401k as an option, VOO actually returns higher gains over the last 10 yrs. Depending on what Bitcoin does from here, either diminishing returns vs hyperbitcoinization this could go either way going forward but your profitability on investment may be closer than you think, depending on what investment vehicles and matching programs you have access to. So I invest in both, so I can't go wrong either way

SquashBox17

Basically UTXOs are Bitcoin transactions. In time, as adoption rates continue to increase worldwide, transaction fees will increase. Many reasonably predict that they will increase to the point that smaller purchases (UTXOs) won’t be worth transferring in order to sell because of how expensive it will be to transfer out of cold storage. To answer your second question, it’s necessary to understand one of the main reasons Bitcoin was created. Articulating this point will be difficult, but I’ll give it a shot… Your money in a bank is not in your control, ultimately. If the government or your chosen banking institution decides that they want to garnish your wages, withhold funds or debank you (yes, it’s a thing) all together, it is absolutely within their rights to do so. In addition, institutions lend against YOUR money. They profit on the money YOU worked for and earned. You see none of those profits. Exchanges through which you can buy and sell bitcoin must comply with state and federal laws, meaning that if the government decides to take your bitcoin for any reason, they can and they will. Your exchange MUST comply or they will face criminal charges. So what happens when exchanges start issuing “paper” bitcoin? ..aka, lending against your bitcoin? Just like dollars during the Great Depression or even the bank runs in 2023, when everyone decides they want their wealth preserved because their chosen institution has over-leveraged themselves, they can’t pay back the money to their customers because they don’t have it. Bitcoin was DESIGNED to be self custodied by individuals, held exclusively by those that own it, specifically in order to protect their wealth from a debt based monetary system that favors institutions above private citizens. You might think, ‘well, I have nothing to worry about. I haven’t done anything wrong, so my wealth held in financial institutions is perfectly safe’. To that I say, fucking bullshit!! People literally are being debanked simply because they bought Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency. It is really important that you DYOR on these topics. Remember, Bitcoin is technically and inherently deflationary in nature. We, by definition, live in an inflationary monetary system. The U.S. is current at $36T of debt!! The inflation and crazy government over spending is exactly what got us there. To the average citizen, $36T, $400B, $$607M are just numbers and they don’t see the importance of understanding these concepts. That’s because we are economically and monetarily illiterate. We were NEVER taught any of this in school. No, economics courses don’t cover this stuff. No educational curriculum cover these issues. We are in a sinking ship. Is the dollar out performing every other legal tender on the planet? Yes. But that’s just because we pegged every economy on the planet to the dollar after WWII and just compared to itself , it loses purchasing power every year, by a base minimum of 2%. Many suspect a hell of a lot more than that now. It’s not the cost of things going up that breaks your wallet. It’s the value of your dollars going down. DYOR on Austrian Economics VS Keynesian Economics. You will find that we are in a sinking inflationary ship, historically, like EVERY OTHER MONEY that has ever existed. Why? Simply put, because of the greed of those in power and their ability to manipulate the value of our money supply. As Bitcoin increases in value and the dollar continues to decrease in value (as it always has), legislation will be passed to disincentivize people from owning Bitcoin. To be clear, the USD is a sinking ship. It would be sinking whether or not Bitcoin ever existed. Bitcoin is a life boat that has performed mathematically superior to any other investment in history, barring land grabs. So you asked, is a cold storage wallet really necessary? My answer is, OMFG! ..Absolutely!! But, just like building your conviction to stack Bitcoin and hodl it, you must DYOR all of the topics I’ve touched base on. Truthfulhly, I’ve so much more to say, but at the risk of saying so much that it is overwhelming. The true answers to these seemingly simple questions, reside in hours upon hours of DYOR. I encourage you to get onto Twitter/X and plug into the Bitcoin community on there. IMHO, this is a rare, once in a generation opportunity to be part of the largest wealth transfer of this century. If you do hop on this boat, it’s right on time. And remember, we all get Bitcoin at the price we deserve. ***THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE*** …only my personal take on these issues

ackmgh

Compares very much. You just live in an info bubble. The US elections were corrupt AG who hid evidence to exonorate people on death row VS biggest rich asshole in the world. Give me a fucking break lol.

JustStopppingBye

Because the market is fake, it’s that simple. Look at XRPLs on chain value VS their market cap. Why is it 160B vs 70M?

Sad-Neck-1410

Trump coin VS Doge

AstroRoverToday

Fiat is still good for trade and commerce, thanks to its global acceptance and use by all countries. It has some cons, which Bitcoin addresses, but that doesn’t mean fiat is bad. Michael Saylor recently said bitcoin isn’t a currency, it’s capital. So, fiat remains good for commerce. Source: https://youtu.be/VS7vFbLTtVo?si=Z6vMdSfAOvGYr_rl

PutchSyring

God, this guy gets it. And yes, community is everything when it comes to memecoins. You can tell real quick the strong, well-built projects VS the 1000th pump and dump of the day. Real recognizes real

McGrumper

It’s all linked to the market data. Btc won’t do nothing unless the market is ok. It’s tied to the traditional banking system and market sentiment. The earlier pump was cause of positive job data from us and then the dump now is *MICHIGAN PRELIM FEB. CONSUMER SENTIMENT FALLS TO 67.8; EST 71.8 *MICHIGAN YEAR-AHEAD INFLATION EXPECTATIONS RISE TO 4.3% VS 3.3% Exactly as things were about to break out... we get bearish macro data ...

SmoothGoing

[Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

GivePeaceaChancex10

To add to my previous the peak price of BTC in 2011 was $29.60 If you're saying you have $2,500 worth today, that means you bought only $0.78 worth of BTC in 2011. VS If you're saying you bought $2,500 worth in 2011, that means you would have $7.9M worth today. So which is it and why would you buy( or mine) only $0.78 worth and then not buy any more until today? Or on the flip side why would you be buying $30k worth over the short term when you're sitting on $7.9 million? Neither way makes any sense

RecoveryRocks1980

An exchange is like trusting me to hold your money VS cold wallet, is like you keeping 100% access

dailybread5

The benefit of an appreciating investment VS depreciating cash!

Rent_South

Indeed, Alts VS BTC, all time charts: [https://imgur.com/a/78rTzoc](https://imgur.com/a/78rTzoc)

Rent_South

Yes but in retrospect, compared to shitcoinsI don't think this has created as much damage. My reasoning is that in the long term new retail investors in shitcoin became bag holders of crashed assets, while BTC long term holders became rich. Just check this gif to illustrate my point, it shows all time charts of alts VS btc: [https://imgur.com/a/78rTzoc](https://imgur.com/a/78rTzoc)

TopKekistan76

Buying on coinbase and leaving on coinbase (as with ETFs) means you own the theoretical promise of BTC. You’re relying on corporations to be truthful and not F up vs being fully in control of what you own. Kind of like the difference between cash in hand and a big digital number in your account. When you buy BTC on coinbase and send that BTC to your own off exchange wallet you more completely own your BTC… keep in mind this has risks as does say cash in your hand (think lost/stolen). I would buy on coinbase and then research. You could leave it there but at the very least you have options VS etf.

giveityourall93

Misunderstanding but it’s okay. When things are priced in BTC, they become cheaper. I’m not comparing BTC VS Home as a store of value. My guess is by 2028-2029 1 BTC will buy you a home.

Rent_South

Let me save you some trouble. Alts VS BTC. And thats before the recent pullback https://i.redd.it/yagbchfp098e1.gif

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget friendlier option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

Ok_Fig705

Because everyone who did is house shopping VS shit coins Bros losing it all or their coins ain't moving?

YouAreAnFnIdiot

SOL is underperforming the last 30 days VS everything. The question I asked is whether there's any news causing that.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them. Decent hot wallets are electrum, sparrow, green, and phoenix for lightning.

SmoothGoing

If you're not an expert use well known options. Hardly anyone can help if you get stuck on an issue with a more obscure product. See the Newcomer's FAQ: https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f7n947/bitcoin_newcomers_faq_please_read/ More resources (incl recommended wallets, helpful books, ELI5 explainers, video channels, setup guides etc etc): https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information.html For beginner types of (bitcoin related) questions go to r/bitcoinbeginners Do not get scammed by "helpers" reaching out. Do not let anyone set things up for you. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget friendlier option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty."

never_safe_for_life

But the appreciation of the Bitcoin you would've sold far outstrips the interest payments. 3% interest VS 50+% CAGR.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget friendlier option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them. Decent hot wallets are electrum, sparrow, green, and phoenix for lightning. "Different cryptos" is off topic nonsense here.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. [Trezor Safe 5](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-5) is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. [Coldcard MK4](https://coldcard.com/mk4) @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is [Trezor Safe 3](https://trezor.io/trezor-safe-3) @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

No. I literally just said no. But I do recommend you leave blockchain.com immediately and never use it again. Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them. Decent hot wallets are electrum, sparrow, green, and phoenix for lightning.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

Rent_South

All alts get rekd against BTC in the long term. Check this gif comparing all time charts of alts VS bitcoin: https://i.redd.it/7kje2ud3816e1.gif

SmoothGoing

See the Newcomer's FAQ: https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f7n947/bitcoin_newcomers_faq_please_read/ More resources (incl recommended wallets, helpful books, ELI5 explainers, video channels, setup guides etc etc): https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information.html For beginner types of (bitcoin related) questions go to r/bitcoinbeginners Do not get scammed by "helpers" reaching out. Do not let anyone set things up for you. Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them. Decent hot wallets are electrum, sparrow, green, and phoenix for lightning.

EffNKevN

Expectations of 60 Mins Crypto segment last night at 7pm EST US. The piece featured Ripple's Garlinghouse VS what actually happened = loss of confidence and profit taking, tanking price, making it cheaper to buy in again lol A LOT of people were betting on an announcement of some sort from him and casr positive light on crypto finally amongst general public. What happened was the opposite--the piece was rather negative and edited some crucial info out, painted crypto as a security, and featured some strong Anti-Crypto voices. The sentiment was not good amongst X and Reddit afterwards.... XRP dropped a good 10 percent after the interview and it seems market followed

Responsible_Sky_9480

Bitcoin Investor VS Bitcoin Investor: The wealth transfer of bitcoin investors only occurs with others who also invest in bitcoin. It has zero effect on people who don't buy into bitcoin at all. It is Akin to watching a poker game from the outside, it wont effect you the least bit if one person or the other "wins" the pot. Essentially, Bitcoin investors can only eat themselves. This is ironic as all the posts within their Bitcoin circles act like they are in it "together", when it in fact the only people they are competing with is other Bitcoin investors. Then you can add on top of this fact that a small minority (roughly 5%) own something close to 90% of all the bitcoins which they purchased for pennies.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them. Decent hot wallets are electrum, sparrow, green, and phoenix for lightning.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

throw-me-away-7878

They were far left in a cool way. A "fuck you I won't do what you tell me stop oppressing us" way. Lol. RATM used to stand for something way more insightful and meaningful than all this Republican VS Democrat slop that people like you just can't seem to get enough of.

SmoothGoing

See the Newcomer's FAQ: https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f7n947/bitcoin_newcomers_faq_please_read/ More resources (incl recommended wallets, helpful books, ELI5 explainers, video channels, setup guides etc etc): https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information.html For beginner types of (bitcoin related) questions go to r/bitcoinbeginners Do not get scammed by "helpers" reaching out. Do not let anyone set things up for you. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

TheTreeOneFour

its because there is a difference between doing going fast, having your token crash and shut off, having hang ups and affects everybody's shit on chain, VS having the hang ups during a fucking doom tournament? Thats why Solana gets shit on.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

tlmag57

[https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=Trezor+VS.+Coldcard&cId=434f3184-6a06-421a-9265-a3b5cd3d84ef&iId=f89bd1f0-94d7-4d43-8eb4-02a5405ad793](https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=Trezor+VS.+Coldcard&cId=434f3184-6a06-421a-9265-a3b5cd3d84ef&iId=f89bd1f0-94d7-4d43-8eb4-02a5405ad793)

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $168 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

Doesn't matter where you buy it. Read the documentation for the wallet on manufacturer's website and watch some youtube videos on how to use them. Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $127 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

relentlessoldman

Now go post GOLD VS BTC in the gold sub and see what they say

MomoBP

There is no VS… gold can’t win it’s better to say BTC AND Gold not VS.

crazyeight64

Time in market beats your lumsome amount. Put that 30k in over a year VS 30 weeks. The more you average the better. I'm 27 as well and got in around 5yrs ago, you aren't late to the party so don't fomo.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $127 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with PC wallets and Android wallets. Coldcard MK4 @ $127 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $153. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Works with wallets on Android phones. Coldcard MK4 @ $127 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget "set it and forget it" option I would also recommend (and own) is Trezor Safe 3 @ $56. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others older types but don't recommend them.

Successful_Pin_2641

FWOG VS SNEK. Who wins more market cap. Both are simply cute

gurney__halleck

Mk4 VS jade? What's your thoughts?

foreignGER

You have better chance at 3x SOL at this price than ETH 3x ing.. All the Degens(meme addicts) are playing on SOL. This is the reason why SOL is hitting 1k and ETH not so much. Also compare the transaction fees ETH VS SOL... PS: I hold ETH and SOL as well.

FrivolerFridolin

(Limit) Buy Orders VS (Limit) Sell Orders

Mammoth_Onion4667

Poor decision, unbelievable that you would time this in the middle of this bull cycle too. The cost of that paper had you stuck out the loan VS what you could have made with the btc... 🤷

Shoemugscale

I understand the draw and the fomo, seeing it shoot up, feeling like you are missing your shot! BTC should be looked at as more of a long-term store VS a get rich quick. In its current state, long-term 5-10 year models have it at 500k to 3 million, per BTC. So, knowing that, lets say you put in 30k RN and get .3 BTC.. In 2030, everything lines up and 1 BTC is 1 million bucks! You have turned your 30K into 300k! Not too shabby Lets say by 2035 your BTC is now 2 Million, now we have 600k and so on. There are a number of base cases, and, if you want to totally fan-out we drink what Michael Sailor is and say BTC is 14 million by 2040, and your .3 BTC is 4.2 Million bucks. The moral of the story, is, we don't know. THe best time to buy BTC was yesterday, the second best time is today. BTC typically has big correction of 29 - 39% but we also have huge run-ups. The likely hood of seeing 30K again is slim especially with ETF trading, the, IMO have added a stablizing factor as a lot of people are tapping 401k Monies, so, they can't touch it anyhow so might as well let it ride

instant_king

You're missing: difficulty of timing the market. It's easier to time the market right 1 time, VS trying to time the market right 10 times.

SmoothGoing

Copypasta.. I feel like Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Coldcard MK4 @ $158 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget set it and forget it option I would also recommend (and own) Trezor safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others but don't recommend them. Best to wait for black friday discounts coming soon unless $10-$40 discount isn't something you care about, due to urgency.

SmoothGoing

There are zero stories online of people's coldcard getting compromised. Unless they stored their backup poorly and leaked it. Not coldcard's fault. I feel like Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Coldcard MK4 @ $158 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget set it and forget it option I would also recommend (and own) Trezor safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others but don't recommend them. Best to wait for black friday discounts coming soon unless $10-$40 discount isn't something you care about, due to urgency. Or deep pockets.

SmoothGoing

I feel like Trezor Safe 5 is very nice to use @ $170. Touch screen, swiping, very smooth. Coldcard MK4 @ $158 is great if you just want to park stuff there and pull it out on rare occasion. It's usable of course, but the dot matrix looking menus and clicky buttons offer somewhat clunkier usability. It would take me longer to do a function with MK4 VS Safe 5. The budget set it and forget it option I would also recommend (and own) Trezor safe 3 @ $80. All of these options obviously come with top notch safety, secure elements, whole nine yards, not just "looking pretty." I own several others but don't recommend them. Best to wait for black friday discounts coming soon unless $10-$40 discount isn't something you care about, due to urgency. Or deep pockets.

Nikoli410

Confucius. thank you for all this BTC info. we easily agree on all your explanations on fiat vs hard, etc. and the overall economic correlations. and thus since roughly 2015 i've always been curious on BTC.. But i am a staunch stock investor, who steadily doubles the return of the S&P500 Y/Y w/leverage ETFs, and a strict money management system.. Every dollar i take out of the S&P has to beat the S&P, or i lost return over the duration i held the other asset.. w/ S&P now @ super-highs, i booked a ton of profits, and the cash went to some great long term life goals & ZERO CC debt now!! Going forward at these market highs, it becomes more difficult to beat the S&P so i'm looking to spread out. i figure why not try holding some currencies. got some British Pound. Can't buy any more gold at these levels (so i got some platinum lol). and now i'm back looking at the BTC charts !! i messed up on the boom cycle of 2017. then missed out on the 2022 trough opportunity. now here we are back at highs trying to break a multi-year triple top. That chart is hard to look at as a swing trader who also wants to go long BTC as we now have a super-catalyst & tailwind in Trump.. again, every dollar i move from Equities has to beat the S&P, (or at least not lose much performance VS it). my portfolio is 7 figures & i can not have periods of say 3 months where a secondary volatile asset goes through a 30% drought while the S&P goes up, etc.. so, any thoughts if you were me. looking at this BTC chart, how aggressive/ non-aggressive would you begin to allocate off Equities and into a BTC position??? thank you, great stuff

Amasan89

Republicans have been the oppressive ones, look at red states VS blue states. Red states ban everything they don't approve, blue states apply freedom of choice.

Numerous_Ruin_4947

Solana and other chains are pushing the industry to almost free transactions. That does come at a cost. Spam for one. Solana has been a victim of that. For Ethereum this means less burning. But even now Ethereum's inflation of around 0.5% is less than Bitcoin's current inflation of 0.83%. And a lot less than Solana's inflation of 6-7%. A slow inflation might not be bad for Ethereum in the long run because it would help push the market cap even if there is zero price action. And that could have a psychological effect. If Solana's token price stays the same the market cap still grows 6-7% per year because of inflation. It looks good on paper. He, Solana's market cap increased by 7%! Bitcoin will need higher transaction fees to offset decreasing miner rewards every 4 years. The issue is if Bitcoin is a store of value and people HODL it then where would all these transaction fees come from? The fees would have to be enough to maintain the same hash rate and decentralization. Look at this comparison of Base VS Solana https://i.redd.it/bo3niw7auqxd1.gif

Korrozyf

In seconds it would be 11,5 days VS 31,7 years but you were probably joking

YogSothothIsTheKey

The institutional evil plan against crypto continue in the next episode of Cbdc VS Bitcoin and the peoples money

CryptoMoneyLand

So, true, approved VS confirmed.

old-iceman

Energy consumption is a positive as it makes BTC hard money VS easy money

JustStopppingBye

>sure oracles are probably one of them. Chainlink controls the off chain data for all major chains except solana/cardano (ghost chains). You what this means? >Maybe in the future your multi-chain hypothesis will play out, [The opinion of 11,000 banks going live with their system in 2025](https://www.swift.com/news-events/news/live-trials-digital-asset-transactions-swift-start-2025). This isnt a hypothesis, its a fact. VS The opinion of one financial institution. You really are a smooth brain.

Inevitable-East2663

this guy... 200% performance altcoins VS BTC.... while BTC dominance is going up #shitpost 290k per BTC he called it get ready!

Own_Expression_4096

As I wrote in my longer comment to your reply in this post, I don't see those particular information as being misleading or technically incorrect (and I listed the reasons and arguments). Nevertheless, I am happy to correct anything which is absolutely incorrect and I will do so. Regarding Telegram/Newsletter signup, well, I know it can look like scam, because unfortunately internet is full of them. I am new to X (since few days) and don't have many followers, so obviously there will be certain level os scepticism. But that's okay. I was counting on that. It's normal when you start something new. Reason why I went with Telegram option VS standard email signup is the simply due to simplicity, both for me and those interested in my future content. Bitcoin has so far transformed my perception of certain aspects of life, and it's because of that gratitude to the technology that I decided to make this website. I plan to be sincere, because that's my life philosophy. I left link to my other website under "About" for those interested to learn more about me as a person. I don't have anything to hide.