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Bitcoin is now part of the mainstream financial system, at least in the USA
Binance vs. SEC: Heightened Disputes on Evidence Production
The last deadline for an Ethereum ETF approval for the SEC is in May 2024, expect a stronger pump than the months before the BTC ETF approval
SEC Crypto Enforcement Reached New High in 2023
DePIN projects have highest growth potential in 2024 / 2025 and DePIN ETF is most likely to be approved in the future by the SEC.
DePIN projects have highest growth potential in 2024/2025 and DePIN ETF is most likely to be approved in the future by the SEC.
Spot Ether ETF Applications Decisions Delayed by SEC
SEC Delays Spot Ethereum ETF Decisions
Here's the New SEC Deadline for BlackRock's Spot Ethereum ETF
The SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Approvals Have Forever Altered The Global Monetary System
The SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Approvals Have Forever Altered The Global Monetary System
The SEC Bitcoin ETF Approvals Forever Alter The Global Monetary System
Do you still believe in Buy the FUD and sell the News?
New SEC Deadline for BlackRock's Spot Ethereum ETF Announced - Daily Coin Post
U.S. SEC blames 'SIM swapping' for its X account hack
The SEC extends its decision on BlockRock's spot Ethereum ETF proposal to March, allowing more time for evaluation.
SEC Extends BlackRock’s Spot Ether ETF Decision to March
SEC delays BlackRock's Ethereum spot ETF to March
Is SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Green Light a Watershed Moment for Crypto Industry?
Is SEC’s Bitcoin ETF Green Light a Watershed Moment for Crypto Industry?
SEC Claims 'SIM Swap' Attack Behind X Account Breach
Crypto.com is now 9th largest exchange by spot volume, with more spot volume than Kraken and Kucoin
SEC Commissioner: Ethereum ETF approvals won’t be same as Bitcoin
Binance and SEC Lawyers Clash: Intense Arguments Over Crypto as Security
Jailed Safemoon CEO’s legal troubles grow as expensive lawyers back out.
SEC Hack Happened Because Of Problems With Multi-Factor Authentication
SEC Reveals X Account Hack Caused by ‘SIM Swapping’
SEC Shut Off Extra Security on X For 7 Months, Letting Hacker Breeze In
B. Riley Financial Faces SEC Scrutiny Over Securities Fraud
Why the SEC’s Case Against Coinbase Is So Significant for Crypto
Crypto Backers B. Riley and Nomura Entangled in SEC Probe: Bloomberg
What regulatory hurdles did Bitcoin have to go through the get the ETF approval?
Blackrock Seeks SEC Approval to Offer Options on Spot Bitcoin ETF — Ishares Bitcoin Trust Now Holds 28,622 BTC
Understanding The Importance of Real World Asset Tokenization
Coinbase has 70% chance of full dismissal in SEC lawsuit — Litigation analyst
Blackrock Seeks SEC Approval to Offer Options on Spot Bitcoin ETF — Ishares Bitcoin Trust Now Holds 28,622 BTC – Regulation Bitcoin News
Court decisions could scale back SEC authority over crypto industry
Approvals For Ethereum Spot ETPs Could Be Next
SEC Reviews Spot Ether ETFs, Analysts Give 50/50 Chance
Nasdaq, Cboe Seek Approval for BTC ETF Options, SEC acknowledges proposal
SEC opens comment period on Nasdaq proposal that would allow options trading on BlackRock's spot Bitcoin ETF.
Unpopular opinion. SEC feigned resistance to ETFs but actually the government is the one behind the ETFs as it allows them to track money almost as easily as they do now.
SEC delays decision on spot Ethereum ETF, Grayscale's Ethereum trust has $5 billion worth of ETHER in assets. Grayscale Moves to Convert Its Ethereum Trust to a Spot ETH ETF. Signs of Ethereum dump incoming after approval. Why do you still want a Spot Ethereum ETF?
Coinbase, SEC lock horns in US court over crypto securities
SEC Lawyer In Coinbase Case: Bitcoin Is Different
Coinbase and SEC Face Off in High-Stakes Legal Battle
Coinbase argues stocks, Terraform Labs and Howey in 5-hour SEC face-off
Coinbase SEC Lawsuit Is Currently Very Tense
The SEC has screwed ordinary people with its Bitcoin restrictions, Erik Voorhees tells Davos
None of the cryptos are actually a security, let's see how the judge dealing with the 'SEC vs Coinbase' case made it clear today for everyone!
Coinbase, SEC set to face off in federal court over regulator's crypto authority
Coinbase's SEC Clash Faces First Major Test as Judge Weighs Longshot Dismissal
I suspect SEC chief is a hidden Monero evangelist, and here is why
US SEC Supports Do Kwon’s Request to Start Trial Post-Extradition
Bittrex Objects SEC’s Securities Classification of Crypto
ETF and it's negative affect on price action. And is this possibly a long game they're playing to ultimately kill Bitcoin?
Bitcoin’s ‘remarkable’ growth and CBDCs threaten the US dollar: Morgan Stanley
Just contacted Merrill that I will close account and move asset
Bitcoin ETF adoption - Canadian Wealth Management Perspective
US SEC willing to delay Terraform Labs trial for Do Kwon's extradition
SEC X Account Hack Is Not A System-Related Problem
Why Ether, Not Bitcoin, Dominates the Crypto Market in Early 2024
Richard Heart hire's Elon Musk's lawyer to submit dismissal request of SEC lawsuit. If he wins it will protect all crypto. "Magic Carpet Ride" to counter the SEC lawsuit?
SEC Chair: Bitcoin ETF Is Not What Satoshi Would Have Wanted
SEC Chairman Gary Gensler Unveils Truth Behind SEC’s X Account Hack
OTC can be fulfilled via transfer of ownership of cold wallets.
btc spot etf's can obtain btc otc via swapping ownership of cold wallets.
The SEC approving spot bitcoin ETFs has just given the green light to the banking and financial industry to start working on and offering bitcoin financial products.
Day 3 after BTC spot ETF listing; not the market we expected?
Concern over the mechanics of ETFs and potential impact on market
Do Kwon Seeks SEC Trial Postponement Amid Extradition Challenges
SEC Commissioner Criticizes Delay in Spot Bitcoin ETF Approval — 'We Squandered a Decade of Opportunities'
Which segment of Bitcoin holders are creating the massive selloff going on right now? Any guesses?
Which segment of Bitcoin holders are creating the massive selloff going on right now? Any guesses?
SEC regulations don't require apot etf's to disclose transactions with cold wallets or open market opening the door for manipulation of btc price
First on CNBC: CNBC Transcript: SEC Chair Gary Gensler Speaks with CNBC’s “Squawk Box” Today
current sec regulations on btc spot etf doesn't cover reporting buying/selling on open market or cold wallets opening the door for manipulation of price.
sec regulations on spot etf's doesnt cover transactions being placed on open market or cold wallets opening the door for minipulation.
Sens. Wyden and Lummis demand investigation into SEC's false post on X about spot bitcoin ETFs
Sens. Wyden and Lummis demand investigation into SEC's false post on X about spot bitcoin ETFs
SEC Chair Gensler on bitcoin ETF approval: The underlying asset is highly speculative and volatile
CoinShares To Buy Valkyrie Investments’ ETF Unit Following SEC Approval
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Meanwhile the SEC is targeting well meaning, market leading, law biding firms, and protecting NO ONE.
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You misread my comments. Its not 'number go up' that makes something a security, its needing the provider to do work for you going forward, to maintain its monetary value, that is the reason. Because the current NFT's need the provider to host them, they require more work from the creator or seller. This is just a technological limitation, and there is no reason they can't be redesigned to avoid this. I think it was a 'strike when the iron is hot' situation, and these things were just rushed out for a quick buck, like ICO's, without any thoughts to the long term, which also makes the SEC more interested in cracking down on them, because they look like a get rich scheme, like almost everything in crypto.
Unregistered security in the eyes of the SEC. Federal crime
tldr; The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) charged Galois Capital for failing to ensure client assets were held with a qualified custodian, instead using unqualified platforms like FTX. Galois agreed to a $225,000 civil penalty to be distributed to harmed investors. The SEC highlighted that about half of the fund's assets managed by Galois were lost due to the collapse of FTX. Galois also misled some investors regarding withdrawal notices. Without admitting or denying the allegations, Galois agreed to the penalty and an order preventing further violations. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Garlinghouse needs more self-criticism than pointing fingers at SEC. He is no better, or even worse.
tldr; Ripple is set to launch its US dollar-pegged stablecoin, Ripple USD (RLUSD), soon, as announced by CEO Brad Garlinghouse at Korea Blockchain Week. Currently in closed beta, RLUSD aims to bridge traditional finance with decentralized finance (DeFi) and improve payment infrastructure within the Ripple network. Fully backed by USD and short-term US government bonds, it seeks to compete with leading stablecoins like USDT and USDC. Despite regulatory challenges from the SEC, Garlinghouse remains optimistic about crypto's future. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
wait until the ETFs get approved by evil SEC thats pushing price down theres gonna be a god candle to 100k overnight .... oh wait
I thought that was because of SEC
Unregistered security in the eyes of the SEC. Federal crime
Unregistered security in the eyes of the SEC. Federal crime
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tldr; Paul Grewal, Coinbase’s Chief Legal Officer, predicts a shift towards a 'pro-crypto' Congress in the U.S. following the 2024 elections, driven by bipartisan support for cryptocurrency. He contrasts this anticipated change with the current SEC's skeptical stance under Gary Gensler. Grewal highlights the bipartisan FIT 21 bill as a foundation for clearer crypto regulations and investor protections, suggesting a future regulatory environment focused more on legislation than litigation. He also notes Europe's pragmatic crypto regulations as a potential model for the U.S. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
I hate the SEC, but I also hate Hedge Funds. So that's a W.
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I'm going to push back on that logic a bit. Yes, an art reseller COULD later spend more money promoting the artists works, long after you made your purchase, but do you EXPLICITLY EXPECT them to do it, for YOU specifically, when you buy it ? Probably not. You might WANT them to do it, but you don't have a direct expectation of their future work on your behalf, to protect your 'investment'. THIS IS DIFFERENT WITH NFT's. Yes, its just a receipt hash, yes, in reality you own a tiny nothing burger, but most NFT buyers actually expect that their NFT will link to an actual JPG, which someone will keep a server running so it properly displays online, and the link keeps working. Many of them also act like they own the rights to the art as well, and you can see this, when they display the art publicly, like I have seen a physical picture of a Bored Ape, presented on a late night interview show, or reproduce it on a mural, as they have, also of a Bored Ape, in my town. The purchasers clearly have some expectations of work on the seller's behalf, both to maintain the imbedded link, and to have the full use of the art. Some sellers explicitly take a cut of any future sales of the NFT's, making the ownership right in it very different than physical art. NFT's are securities, because they have these security-like features. Of course the SEC provides no clarity, because they like regulating, and would rather sellers keep doing these 'security things', so they can fine them, rather than just spelling out what has to be done so they can be made not securities, because they KNOW that sellers WOULD do those things, if they knew what those things were. This is no way to run a regulatory body, which is why we either need to do away with the SEC, or more explicitly define what they regulate, rather than just throwing it over to the courts, every time a new XRP scam, or a JPEG selling scam, is dumped on the unsuspecting public.
What is a Ponzi scheme? “A Ponzi scheme is a type of investment fraud in which investors are promised big profits at little or no risk. The money is not invested. Rather, the scam artist concentrates on attracting more investors. A growing number of victims is needed to pay out the supposed profits being distributed to earlier investors.” 1. If Ripple (XRP) were a Ponzi scheme, logic says given an almost 4 year SEC lawsuit that this would have cone up? 2. Ripple has been using their XRP profits to develop their RippleNet product and the XRPL which now supports EVM side chains and connectivity to 55 other blockchains! 3. As volume on the XRPL continues to increase, its scalability and proven ability to handle massive load and transactions at a fraction of a penny ($0.01) will result in massive adoption for the inbound cross border payments of all tokenized assets! 4. Who else has over 500 announced Finternet partnerships and 1,700 NDA’s (unnamed partnerships) who have tested RippleNet, XRPL, XRP, EVM Side Chains including support for Smart Contracts), tokenization, etc.? 5. Evidence that mBridge, BRICS+, Russian Cebtral Bank, Indian Central Bank, 10 announced nation’s CBDC’s, and R3 Corda have tested and are using Ripple technology! 6. Ripple (XRP) are the antithesis of a Ponzi scheme and anyone who says otherwise is an uneducated fool.
Working with the SEC and OpenSea is like trying to sail a boat through a storm—you’re just hoping you don’t get hit with a wave of paperwork or gas fees!
SEC and security should work hand in hand... They seems to have interest in em
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Unregistered security in the eyes of the SEC. Which is a federal crime.
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>It's clearly not legal to do that. Actually our banking system works on 0% reserve as of a couple of years ago. Thankfully the SEC has been holding these exchanges to have complete 1 to 1 backing after the FTX and multiple other debacles of insolvency.
tldr; The SEC is under scrutiny for its stance in the FTX bankruptcy case, similar to its controversial approach in the Voyager case. The SEC warned it might oppose plans to repay creditors with stablecoins or other digital assets due to potential legal concerns. This echoes its actions in the Voyager bankruptcy, where it objected to repayments in stablecoins, causing delays. Critics argue the SEC's vague objections and lack of clarity stall the bankruptcy process and fail to protect investors, introducing uncertainty into already complex cases. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
SEC is criticised for a lot of things
tldr; Crypto executives and industry advocates are organizing a $100,000 fundraiser for US Vice President Kamala Harris, scheduled for September 13 in Washington, D.C. The event, hosted by the Blockchain Foundation and other crypto groups, aims to encourage a more lenient regulatory approach towards the crypto sector. Tickets range from $500 to $5,000. This initiative reflects the crypto community's effort to engage with Harris, hoping to influence her stance on digital assets and foster discussions on how her administration could support the crypto industry. The fundraiser occurs amidst increased regulatory scrutiny from the SEC under the Biden administration. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
tldr; On September 13, U.S. cryptocurrency executives plan to host a fundraiser in Washington for Vice President Kamala Harris, aiming to raise at least $100,000. The event, occurring between the Congressional Black Caucus and Congressional Hispanic Caucus conferences, seeks to gain Harris's support for more lenient crypto regulation amidst the Biden administration's SEC crackdown. Harris's stance on cryptocurrency remains unclear, and the industry is eager for her to reveal her policy intentions. This fundraiser represents a critical opportunity for Harris to engage with the crypto community's concerns and potentially clarify her position on cryptocurrency regulation. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Yeah, sounds about right. If they were telling everyone those monkey pics were gonna make them rich, then yeah, that’s on them. But at the end of the day, it's just art, man. Just gotta roll with the punches and hope the SEC doesn’t come knocking on my digital door.
[https://www.fidelity.com/etfs/crypto-funds-prospectus](https://www.fidelity.com/etfs/crypto-funds-prospectus) This is for FBTC. On page 2 it says: "The Trust, the Sponsor and the Trust’s service providers will not loan or pledge the Trust’s assets, nor will the Trust’s assets serve as collateral for any loan or similar arrangement. The Trust will not utilize leverage, derivatives or any similar arrangements in seeking to meet its investment objective." If they were to break anything in their prospectus, they would be in hot doo-doo with the SEC.
The SEC has targeted the largest NFT marketplace for unregistered securities trading, and the crypto community is outraged.
How were stonercats promoted as good investments and the SEC still went after them?
Funny thing is for whatever reason they sunset moons before avatars and a few months later SEC approved a Bitcoin ETF
tldr; Sony Group's blockchain subsidiary launched the Minato testnet, aimed at enhancing Ethereum's layer 2 capabilities in partnership with Web3 company Startale. This initiative seeks to improve transaction speeds and reduce fees on Ethereum. The launch marks a significant development in the cryptocurrency sector, highlighting Sony's commitment to blockchain technology and its potential impact on Ethereum's scalability challenges. Concurrently, the article also touches on legal challenges faced by Telegram CEO Pavel Durov in France and regulatory scrutiny on platforms like OpenSea by the SEC. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Seems delusional. She only spoke a half hearted statement about "resetting the conversation with crypto" after her opponent started courting the industry. And then she didn't go to the BTC conference, ignored the crypto roundtable recently (I think there was like one representative from the administration there that had no authority and was in PR or something) and we are still seeing the SEC target crypto. She's been VP in an administration that's targeted crypto for 3 1/2 years. You have to be a halfwit to think she has changed her stance at all on crypto or plans to do anything other than continue to stifle it. I don't know how any pro crypto people could be foolish enough to donate funds to her. She's said the bare minimum lipservice, with no promises, necessary to try and avoid losing too many pro crypto voters.
naw, SEC already determined that it isn't with the ETH ETF approval!
The SEC is an independent body. You don't want the government bossing it around lol; that's how you crank corruption up to 11.
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tldr; The crypto community is organizing a $100,000 fundraiser for Vice President Kamala Harris, aiming to unite crypto donors and signal support despite industry skepticism about her potential approach to crypto regulation. The event, scheduled for September 13, seeks to raise at least $100,000 for Harris's campaign, with ticket prices ranging from $500 to $5,000. Organizers hope that, if elected, Harris will adopt a more favorable stance toward crypto, given the SEC’s strict approach under President Biden. The Harris campaign has been receptive towards crypto, meeting with leading firms and indicating support for emerging technologies. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
The "friendliness" already started this year by the SEC. Nothing to suggest it would be any different come November either way.
What is said is not what is said. What he is really saying is "Hey SEC, I am going to speak out against you because my voter base appears to like crypto on social media and my data says that it will boost my votes while not decreasing others. So I am speaking out right now to get a boost come election time."
SEC doing something right? This is new!
tldr; The SEC has charged Georgia brothers Jonathan and Tanner Adam with running a $60 million Ponzi scheme, falsely promising investors high returns through a non-existent crypto bot. The brothers allegedly spent $53.9 million of the raised funds on luxury items and misled investors about the risks and Jonathan's criminal background. The SEC seeks permanent injunctions, the return of investor funds, and civil penalties, having already secured emergency asset freezes for the brothers' companies. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
SEC dropped the ball so hard on Madoff that they have been back peddling and attacking crypto to make up for it. Very sad. Was Gary appointed by Trump or just Powell?
So that means Wizards of the coast and Creatures Inc (Digital Magic Cards and Pokemon cards) are now securities and those companies need to be crushed? Lmao. Imagine a world were the SEC actually had investor interest and protected them instead of wasting money posturing on their nonsensical views. The concept of the internet was yet to be invented for decades when the Howie test was established...
tldr; Democratic Congressman Wiley Nickel criticized the SEC's aggressive enforcement tactics against OpenSea, an NFT marketplace, calling it an abuse of power that undermines trust in the regulatory system. He urged the SEC to collaborate with Congress to establish clear regulations for digital assets and Web3 technologies. The criticism follows the SEC's threat to sue OpenSea, marking an expansion of its scrutiny into digital assets, specifically NFTs. Industry figures and pro-crypto groups also condemned the SEC's actions, arguing it oversteps its jurisdiction and hampers digital innovation. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
>The aggressive use of “regulation by enforcement” from @SECGov is a blatant abuse of power that erodes trust and transparency in our regulatory system. > >This heavy-handed approach creates widespread uncertainty and threatens to derail the progress driving digital innovation in the United States. > >The SEC should choose to work with Congress to craft clear, fair regulations through a collaborative and transparent process that includes public input. Only then can we build a regulatory framework for #Web3 that protects consumers and supports digital innovation - instead of crushing it. Its called manipulation and Gary should end in prison for it.
Then actually do something against the SEC. All that is just talk, but no actions by those politicians.
tldr; The U.S. House Financial Services Committee is planning a series of hearings in September to address various cryptocurrency issues. These hearings will cover topics such as decentralized finance (DeFi), the Securities and Exchange Commission's (SEC) oversight of digital assets, and the impact of 'pig butchering' scams. SEC Chair Gary Gensler is expected to testify before the committee. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
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I think the way things are going, the likelihood is that regulation is going to make scams more common. I'm talking specifically of the vast resources that crypto firms are allocating to influencing the US election - this has already been affecting the regulatory landscape, notably with the FIT21 bill recently passing the House. This bill will classify most cryptos as commodities - something the industry is very keen on, as the CFTC is a smaller agency than the SEC with less resources and enforcement powers, and commodities are less stringently regulated. If classified as securities, tokens would have to undergo serious oversight throughout their launch processes - which are often the times when the most malpractice is committed, such as when founders and insiders dump tokens on new buyers, when teams set valuations and liquidity parameters themselves with no audits, etc. If politicians and regulators continue to take money from Fairshake and other PACs, it's likely that existing regulation will be trimmed down or abolished, and new regulation will come into effect which perpetuates or fails to tackle crypto scams. Worldcoin is an interesting example, because the regulatory issues it's been having are essentially the opposite of what many other projects encounter. Other projects fall foul of the law by not taking privacy seriously enough - for example, by not KYC'ing investors - whereas Worldcoin is in disputes with regulators for collecting too much of peoples' data, and therefore breeching GDPR and other data-privacy laws. I don't imagine many or any other projects will have this issue.
tldr; UNFK, founded by Gunnar Lovelace, is a movement using pranks and memes to challenge banks and big corporations, aiming to promote positive change through social pressure. It gained attention with a stunt at the Consensus crypto conference and is now launching a web app to coordinate its 'agents' in various campaigns, including a meme competition targeting the SEC. Lovelace, with a history of activism and successful consumer brands, believes crypto can supercharge social movements and aims to harness its anti-establishment energy for impactful campaigns. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
SEC struggled to argue Beanie Babies aren’t securities: https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-argues-beanie-babies-securities-coinbase-hearing-crypto-lawyers
tldr; Despite market uncertainties and regulatory pressures from the SEC, venture capitalists remain bullish on the crypto sector, with ParaFi Capital and Lemniscap planning to invest a total of $190 million. ParaFi announced a $120 million fund focusing on diverse crypto assets, aiming to build a portfolio of 30 to 50 investments over the next few years. Lemniscap launched a $70 million fund targeting opportunities within the blockchain ecosystem. This investment trend persists even as funding has dropped 50% since March, reflecting continued VC interest in fostering crypto innovation despite challenges. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
The SEC is unbelievable. How are digital arts ever tagged securities? They are just clowning this time around
"art", while I'm only a small fish in crypto, I laugh shit like this. Although I admit I may be old and ignorant, I see them Jpegs with 0 established copyright or trademark law as far as i can tell that are used primarily for money laundering until this can be proven otherwise. Crypto is a bit different. There is some utility (e.g. international transfers with low fees, block chain etc yet debatable over benefit over audited dbs) but the rhetoric is entirely facepalm worthy by some people a few years ago (slightly less so now). "It's going to end currency as we know it" "US dollar is dead", etc. It's clear like any security it is highly dependent on interest rates and the US fed now like any traditional security, when rates fall the price rises, when they rise the price falls, (as well as other macroeconomic factors) and so clearly dominated by the US dollar and the extension of USDT and USDC for support, that anyone that thinks it's going to replace the US dollar in this century at least is a complete idiot. (Same with the joke concept of BRICs, where authoritarian POS governments that don't even trust their own citizens will somehow cede control and financial independence to other nations theyve historically never trusted (see: sino Soviet split, indo China war and border skirmishes). Add to wll traditional institutions adopted crypto, and it's clear as day it's a security. And tbf, like crypto, I'd rather nft be treated as a security because of the all of the scumbags involved, see: Luna, FTX, quadriga, social media influencers, etc, who screwed little fish, and all thr money launderers involved especially for authoritarian pos government officials and international crime syndicates are held to account and little users aren't screwed. Say what you want about the SEC, but the last seismic scandal they were involved in was 25+ with enron/Arthur Anderson scandal and they really got their shit together afterwards in terms of investor protection. 2008 crisis was on the big banks, fed, and fannie mae freddie mac, not sec.
Lot of that happening on SEC-regulated brokerages using options trading? Is the money laundering in the room with you now?
Expecting profit on something is the jurisdiction of the SEC. Anything.
tldr; Congressman Wiley Nickel criticized the SEC for its 'regulation by enforcement' approach towards the crypto industry, calling it a 'blatant abuse of power' that stifles innovation. He advocates for a collaborative process with Congress to create clear regulations, emphasizing the need for a balanced framework that protects consumers while supporting digital innovation. Nickel's comments come amid concerns over the SEC's handling of digital assets, including a Wells Notice to OpenSea for alleged securities violations, highlighting the broader debate on effective regulation without hindering technological progress. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
We need to ask the SEC why we don't get a cut of the profit if reddit were to sell to some other company. Aren't our avatars securities?
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The SEC thinks their jurisdiction is anything that has an "expectation of profit now" and that seems to also be their working definition of a security. The only problem is that would including thousands of new categories of "things" including buying and selling old cars, baseball cards, those stupid gold coins on TV and so much more. It's so much easier to put it this way. When the organization that minted the thing gets sold do the people who bought the products get paid? No. They don't. They don't because they don't own the company. That is the true definition of a security they are not willing to admit because what they really want is jurisdiction power. All of these assets, even meme coins are actually just products. The organization (or person) creating these assets are not selling pieces of themselves. They are selling products that entitle the customer to no ownership rights in the organization that created them. This is a very simple concept actually. You can apply it as such: If the ethereum organization gets sold do ethereum holders get paid? No. If the Yuga Labs gets sold to Bored Ape Holders get paid from that sale? No. If whatever group manges Doge coin gets sold do Doge coin holders get paid from the proceeds? No. If you don't get paid when something is sold then you don't own it. If Disney were to sell it's company would the owners of all the Disney merchandise get paid? Of course not. Disney merchandise is not a stock. A stock is ownership in the company. Why is this so hard for them to get? I can only guess it's intentional corruption. They want to rent seek the industry for some elite group our of jealousy and greed, but crypto assets, unless stated otherwise are 99% of the time products, commodities and collectibles. They are independent of the companies that create them in the vast majority of cases and even if you advertise that these things will be more valuable in the future that STILL does not make them securities. If that were the case then all these coin and gold commercials on TV would be violating securities laws. The SEC's jurisdiction is not "Everyone who makes money." That is absurd.
To what? I’m a literal economist, with a degree and everything. Please explain. Stocks are put on the market as a way for corporations to get money. The idea being to put up a stake of ownership, people buy it, the company takes that money and does whatever they need it for. When the SEC instituted rule 10b-18 allowing stock buybacks (because they were illegal prior as it’s an obvious conflict of interest) it allowed corporations to buyback their own stock from the market. What happens when stocks get bought? Stock prices go up. So if all a corporation has to do to inflate their stock prices (and line go up is the drive for ALL boards) is issue stocks then rebuy them, and it will make the ceo and board wealthier as they get paid mostly in buybacks, why wouldn’t they? It’s a legal and sure fire way to increase stock prices. It would be stupid not to. They have little incentive to reinvest profits into the company. I can’t be the only person to notice that most brick and mortar stores are falling apart? The cvs I worked at 10 years ago literally has missing ceiling tiles and broken shelves. It looks like a hurricane went through there. It’s because they aren’t wasting money on the stores, just like they don’t waste money on the employees. It wouldn’t make sense when they can just inflate their value. Our entire economy is a bubble right now because so much money has been siphoned out of the economy and put into financial markets. The economy is slow because most of us have no money. It’s all up top. They were talking on NPR about how grocery prices are actually going to come down, when normally they just slow down, because sales dropped so bad. That’s how you know it’s corporate greed and not genuine inflation. If it was genuine they wouldn’t be able to afford to come down. Economics is about incentives. Whatever is incentivized people will do. Stock buybacks incentivized corporate psychopathy and that’s what we got.
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So the SEC won't let you be Said you can't trade your security They tried to shut you down on OpenSea But it feels so empty without thee
If the SEC is saying that NFTs are a security, are they basically conceding that NFTs have real value?
Realistically, my solution would be to convince people to vote for people who believe in incrementally fixing the problems in our country instead of big feel good statements. I don't think the issue is solved with a single law. I think a myriad of policies would be good for the country as a whole and would all address the core issue of lack of ownership of the working class: 1) universal healthcare would decouple health coverage from employment giving workers less risk is pursuits. Many people, especially with kids, are unable to maximize their earnings because the risk of losing a safety net is too real. 2) some sort of national workers right policy. My personal favorite would be some sort of law tying Max and Min total compensation together. Ie; the highest paid employee can not make more than 300x the lowest. I think I would like to see some serious discussion of what options are available here in Congress. I have no idea why we allow our government to not actually discuss policy pros and cons daily. Teddy Roosevelt said no company should exist if it can't pay it's workers a living wage (which he clarified includes vacations and retirement savings), I agree. We need to go back to that. 3) giving the SEC, FEC actual teeth again. We need to go on a monopoly busting spree. Google, Amazon, Meta in particular own too much of the data space, which is the most important sector right now. The SEC also needs to be able to be able to actually go after obvious examples of wrong doing. 4) this one is largely unrelated to what you asked but is a personal pet peeve of mine- utilities (including Internet) need to be public services. The fact that we have for profit utilities is disgusting. Things that can not be gone without should not be for profit.
The SEC thinks anything digital is a security.
I remember the SEC sent me a letter for trading my Pokemon cards. Now I have digital Pokemon cards and they're sending me the same letter. Fortunately their just a commission or are they a federal agency like the Federal Reserve? I forget.
Yes it is. All art is a security. It just happens to be a security the SEC does not usually monitor.
Wrong. The SEC doesnt think. They just scrounge for tax dollars to feed for the corruption hole.
When will the SEC charge Activision for WoW gold being sold on the black market?
The SEC is threatening to sue OpenSea, and you think an NFTs that earn profit is a good idea?
SEC is... not thinking straight
Oh no anyway. Like I care what the SEC does
"NFTs are fundamentally creative goods: art, collectibles, video game items, domain names, event tickets, and more." you say. Are you serious? Even Tickets are "creative" goods? I think your phrase shows EXACTLY why putting ALL NFTS in one category misses the boat. I bet the SEC, and mind you, I'm not happy about it or supporting it, sees NFTs which give membership to a DAO, or ones that give returns as securities, and they do have a point there.
With the SEC going after opensea any NFT related tokens may be going down
The SEC thinks buying your art constitutes an investment of money with an expectation of profits from a common enterprise (you and your hands)
I'll consider the SEC's word once they start handing out rim jobs. Until then, they can get fucked.
These avatars are my retirement plan, SEC is really fucking me over here
Please I hope not..... But if SEC finally win, I guess cancelling the avatar will be the only options left
It does feel a bit that way. And they do seem to be throwing a bunch of stuff out at the moment against all parts of ecosystem - wallets, defi, NFTS, etc, which I think everyone knew were on the list as part of the broader clampdown push. There's the international monitoring and tax stuff starting to happen ATM as well - which was flagged in the Whitehouse fact sheet on crypto etc the other year. Wonder if there's a dual timing element as well - there's only so much window before the elections, and iirc (unchecked suspicion) this isn't the first time that SEC have used the September market slump to make various pursuits public - they usually tend to coordinate and be quite deliberate about timings.
Interesting. Are they making a last rushed push against crypto before the administration changes? It seems even Harris would have a more nuanced approach to crypto than Biden right now. Maybe the SEC is nervous, they lost a few lawsuits, BTC and ETH ETFs got approved and more might follow. It seems like the floodgates to crypto have begun to open and with it will come not just legitimate stuff but also a whole bunch of crap. Perhaps their goal is to simply stall crypto for a little longer but they must know, it's a losing battle in the long run.