LEO

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

1. There are a bunch of ways that these deflationary effects could be mitigated or counterbalanced over time and could happen as a result of the ecosystem’s evolution. Like growing use cases. As Bitcoin’s adoption increases, whether as a #1 store of value, a medium of exchange, or for use in DeFi applications, the demand for Bitcoin could continue to grow, offsetting the deflationary pressure caused by lost coins. Or a higher use of Layer 2s for scaling purposes, which allow for off-chain transactions, increasing the overall liquidity in the Bitcoin ecosystem without relying on the base layer and relieving some pressure on the limited supply of Bitcoin which could lead to some mitigation. And then tokenizing bitcoin could allow for more flexible use of the Bitcoin ecosystem without needing to directly rely on the number of bitcoins available on the main blockchain, which already has a somewhat been mitigating deflationary effects of lost coins since Wrapped BTC become a thing. Then of course there’s regulatory and legal changes, government intervention, taxation, compliance, etc. All could have an effect. All of these are “what ifs” situations and purely speculative, as they can’t even be measured. Fact of the matter is lost coins are an objectively good thing for holders. 2. Learn about multisig. Billions and billions of dollars of crypto sit in one multi-signature, air gapped, cold storage wallet. This is as safe as it gets. Then with it being government assets, it’d likely be designed with mechanisms for secure management of access. For example, private keys could be shared across multiple trusted parties (multi-signature wallets), and the keys could be periodically rotated or updated to prevent any single person from retaining control once they leave the government. I’m sure the system would include governance structures, backup processes, and secure handover mechanisms to ensure continuity and prevent malicious access or loss of access. Especially when dealing with that kind of money. 3. Without direct access to the private keys, it becomes impossible for LEO to confiscate funds in a purely decentralized system. Many criminals have came home from prison rich due to retaining the private key to their wallet and from the price going up over the years. That being said, if a government or law enforcement agency has the necessary technical capability, they will be exploiting weak points in the criminal’s system and these private keys are largely confiscated. 4. Yes, blockchain transactions are public and traceable. Anyone can inspect the blockchain and see wallet addresses, the transaction history, and balances, though they may not easily link addresses to real-world identities without additional information. Bitcoin is divisible down to 0.00000001 BTC (one satoshi). If a transaction involves fractions of a coin, the blockchain records every part of the coin’s movement. If coins are split, the transaction history will show the movement from one address to another, including the fractions.

pedronegreiros94

Why that LEO does never dip?

bananaholy

Those are well known to the public. But if things like LEO have more than double algo market cap, i dont see why algo cant go up more significantly

Every_Hunt_160

I actually have a question for you guys, what in the world is this "LEO" coin that is number 25 out of all crypto? I've actually been an active user for years and have heard not a single user actually owning it, or even hear it being mentioned on crypto twitter

Icy-Royal-575

It will be all of these and more. An AI can now own an asset and use it in the real world. UBI can be paid in sats and traced so you know the person is using it for food instead of onlysimps. The amount of heat produced by ASICS worldwide will grow. Hopefully moreso in the right places. Designed to work in our solar system when LEO and moon/mars colonization happens. Etc

MichaelAischmann

As per this article, these are the top 10 performing cryptocurrencies in 2024 (as per Nov. 17th): 1. Dogecoin (310%) 2. Shiba Inu (150%) 3. Solana (134%) 4. Bitcoin (113%) 5. BNB (98%) 6. UNUS SED LEO (93%) 7. TRON (85%) 8. XRP (72%) 9. Zcash (65%) 10. Crypto.com Coin (62%) They obviously ignored some projects, idk why.

athomasflynn

The average money laundering transfer is less than $200. Nobodt moves nefarious money in large amounts. They send them in small amounts specifically to avoid suspicion and to minimize losses when the transactions get seized. Like yours was. When you pass through customs between here and Cuba, or any other problematic destination, your travel history is logged. They have mule patterns that they look for. When you meet them, the questions will start getting more specific. "You actually have to break the law to be scared of answering questions." This is the most naive shit I've ever heard in my life. Half the people in San Quentin and Leavenworth are there because they didn't know how to shut the fuck up when a LEO was asking questions.

athomasflynn

They went "no further contact" because any interaction they have with you going forward creates an evidentiary burden for them. You're currently suspected of criminal activity. OFAC is one of money lists and it is not comprehensive. The address you attempted to is red flagged on another list. If your KYC info on Kraken is accurate, you should start getting ready for a LEO phone call because you are fucked. Figure out your story now. The "I was just trying to help someone buy food" story isn't believable.

wutthefvckjushapen

Because there aren't enough satellites and junk in LEO already

Dapper-Ad5268

It also sadly ghettoises privacy. If you’re sending to monero it’s for a specific purpose you need privacy for and that gateway is heavily monitored by LEO. Which is sad because monero is great. What I hope is that more mainstream payments chains build in confidential transfers and mixers.

drewster23

No they don't. They only fully freeze accounts if it's under active LEO investigation. Friends work in AML, de platformed plenty of people (kicked from bank) they give them their money, say we can't tell you anything but you're not welcome here. It's probably also why his bank won't tell him anything they think he's prying for info they legally can't give. They'll ask for things like source of funds. So yeah if you're going to try and act like your money just magically appeared there you're going to have a bad time. You can call ahead to tell them it's coming and let you know if anything else is needed. But not really necessary as any large bank will have a totally separate department not in branch handling these things.

guestHITA

Yeah, civil asset forfeitures are one of the main ways that LEO keeps their budgets going. I have strong opinion against the way most LEO conduct these civil asset forfeitures. Basically its a we’ll assume this asset (hopefully cash for them) is from illegal activity and then you the cutizen, have to go prove where the money came from and why its not illegal. These scenarios put the burden of proof on civilians where the presumption of innocence is thrown out the window. Then when the civilian goes and meets with the DA or SA they will usually try to cut a deal “we’ll give you 50-70% of the money back no questions asked” and thats cheaper than hiring an attorney in most cases. If you fight LEO for it than they will deposition you in a civil manner and try to make you incriminate yourself using books and books of tax law or the simple fact that you didnt fill out an 8300 form for payments over 10k. Now youre federally fucked. Its a scam. I dont know what the final destination for federal asset seizures is tho.

biba8163

5 years ago, BCH, LTC, EOS, BSV, XLM, LEO, DASH, TZOS were in the top 15. 5 years from now, the top 15 is going to look very different.

ulptthrowaway2016

XRP, DOGE, ADA, AVAX, SHIB, LINK, BCH, DOT, LEO and LTC. Any alt older than one cycle unfortunately runs into massive sell wall issues in the next cycle as scorned investors sell off any meaningful pump for various reasons

WineMakerBg

What the f\* is 17- **UNUS SED LEO (LEO)**

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

Also Twitter doesn’t have any kind of end to end encryption and willingly hand over user data when requested by LEO.

RUM-HAM-HOLLY

LEO’s everywhere trying to figure out how to load crypto into their mag and light your ass up.

SwingNMisses

I haven’t found a crypto like LEO a which is currently the biggest loser of the day. Maybe the only crypto not controlled by the whales, it does its own thing. And that’s because it’s controlled by a much smaller private equity company. LEO is hot garbage, somebody called it latin for scam. Yea it is. It is the antithesis of decentralization and open source and peer to peer. 

jcpham

I’d go after the domain registration with the registrar if you have proof and report it to LEO. Abuse@ the registrar might save another person from being scammed

drewster23

Banks/financial institutions won't/can't give you any information about why you are deplatformed. As that could aid in assisting bad actors avoid deplatforming. All decisions are basically final, but not "binding", meaning there's no real implications as they're not making any actual claims/assertions regarding your activity/what got you flagged. Just based on their findings/system they aren't able to service you. And unless your money is flagged regarding an active LEO investigation, they won't hold your money and you're free to attempt to conduct business elsewhere. If you don't have your money in 1-2 weeks and they're refusing to give information. USA financial institutions have regulatory bodies you can report it to.

Tight-Entertainer-37

Report it to law enforcement. Some jurisdictions do have LEO’s that will track via TRM or Chainalysis, send subpoenas to exchanges and eventually get your money back. Speaking from experience. At some point they will offload on a centralized exchange at which point the account can be frozen.

imdabes

That’s my point. You shouldn’t be responsible for having to figure out who is and isn’t a criminal. That’s a job for the courts. AML flags people in crypto land for the most ludicrous things like buying p2p or using best practices for your financial privacy. LEO are circumventing the judicial system by making merchants responsible for figuring out who is and is not illegal and making customers prove they haven’t done anything wrong bc some biased machine learning algorithm flagged their account with no evidence of an actual crime having been committed. I’m sorry this happened to you. I’m sorry you have to assume your customers are guilty until they prove their innocence to you. It shouldn’t be that way.

neitze

It is what it is. Always hear stories of vultures coming out when people are dying. Despite being pretty far removed from being in a position where my parents leave tangible assets to their next of kin - I can empathize with some of the sacrifices the step kids made in his last months. Pretty scummy to not flesh particulars of inheritance out when he is of sound mind though. I did end up losing all empathy when the LEO husband of one of the step daughters essentially let himself into my grandfather's house after he passed and sold his gun collection on Craigslist, including one of the last major purchases my uncle made before being killed in Op. Iraqi Freedom. Not the kind of people I'd want to patrol our communities. Probably should have lodged a complaint at the time. Hard to fathom doing something so morally bankrupt for a few grand.

DabNbeyondNormalUse

Absolutely according to coinmarketcap only 6 of the top 100 are showing green for the 24/hr period (Tether, Toncoin, LEO, DAI, NEO and Jasmy)

Apart-Apple-Red

>Its screams “LEO check me out” it never be mainstream like btc, the OP optimistic fantasy is just that. like I said what's it done in 6 years compared to others It has better privacy than bitcoin. It has low fees so it can be nicely used as payment, unlike bitcoin. And oh, is actually taking over practical use from bitcoin. Yeah, it looks like monero is doing fine 👍

IntelligentOne007

Its screams “LEO check me out” it never be mainstream like btc, the OP optimistic fantasy is just that. like I said what's it done in 6 years compared to others

LowestCommmonDenom

UNUS SED LEO which is latin for scam. You know it’s super sketchy when CoinMarketCap doesn’t even have an about section for it. And Binance who listing criteria is “is it a crypto?”…Binance refuses to list this shitcoin. The founders of LEO who are associated with the Bitfinex are waiting for that dumb whale to purchase a bunch of LEO so they can dump this coin like Terra Luna. This is not a legitimate currency. It is an entirely a pump and dump scheme which is why legitimate exchanges will not list it. Bitfinex is arguably the most illegitimate exchange next to the defunct FTX. Sometimes curiosity does kill the cat. Don’t be curious when it comes to LEO.

JoeYo743

Lol not to include all the Bitcoin layer2 memecoins as well. MAX GUS PLAY WELSH LEO WIF to name a few

satoshisfeverdream

That was a bullshit set up by crooked LEO and you can tell because he was never formally charged in court for any murder for hire. Read some.

WoahLetsGo

Some people feel a sense of security going cross chain. I don't have a preference, I don't do illegal shit to need the info and ring signatures and confidential transaction amounts should be sufficient. It's all about your threat model and how hard you're running from LEO

PsyOmega

Gold is only valuable until we lasso one rock in space into LEO. The space mining plans between bezos/musk will devalue gold to standard commodity pricing in the next decade or so.

AdamFitri2005

💩 like SHIB, TON and LEO in the top 25 makes me question if market cap actually exists

BoneFire

I agree that most law enforcement agencies do not know what to do with cryptocurrency related crimes. I'm a LEO and entertain all cryptocurrency cases regardless of the amount. Ive had many victims who have been scammed by these forensic companies and/or provide them with bogus information.

AdamFitri2005

What is LEO and why does it have a 5.42B mcap with only 2.74M in volume

SmoothGoing

That's from old hack. The guy and girl seriously look like scapegoats rather than criminal masterminds, but that's another story. LEO gently asked them for bitcoin. Then asked less nicely and kept going until keys were turned over.

AlexAtheus

LMAO my mother was a teacher for 35 yrs, and I did a short stint as a shadow for one of my uni profs, so trust me, I \*\*totally\*\* get it! lol Its kinda like LEO busting their ass to find novel ways to catch someone selling drugs... no matter what they come up with, someone will eventually always find a way around it. The ole \*there's always a better mousetrap\* cliche is legit af! haha

brianl047

LEO and the NSA have the ability to trace all blockchain transactions... of course they can, because it's a public ledger. There's a whole industry and analysts dedicated to tracing cryptocurrency. The NSA probably already knows who Satoshi is (Obama asked them to figure out in case BTC was a security threat supposedly). But the catch is, it isn't worth anyone's time or money unless it's absolutely massive sums involved. That's why stealing billions and creating national security risk with an oil company means giving back the money, but mere millions or hundreds of thousands you won't even get the time of day from LEO or these recovery services. You couldn't afford or have the political power for the services to get your money back but they exist.

vulp

No. That's a space shuttle, which only flies to LEO. To get to the moon you'll need a Saturn V.

drewster23

Im pretty sure he wasn't the original fraudster he was the overseas end point money man for the fraudsters. LEO followed the money trail from original fraud case to him.

Savant_Guarde

Civil asset forfeiture only requires the LEO to suspect criminal activity, you have to prove otherwise. It's a racket.

Valianne11111

The dark web is probably 90 percent feds and europol. Everyone assumes that when they announced they found this thing called the dark web that they just then discovered it. Not how LEO works.

-bit-thorny-

Blockstream is not in LEO. It's very much on ground level. But insofar it does operate in space, it rents bandwidth on geo stationary (not LEO) satellites. In short: Shit article.

Ferantc

That name LEO has been around forever, it's always only been close to the ones worth paying more attention to

Wonzky

I never even heard of LEO and it's top20

Ai_Art_Bug

What is going on with LEO? That coin is having a bit of run in the midst of a crab market. I honestly never heard of that project, does anyone have any idea what this is about?

SavageLeo19

TON, LEO, APT, XDC Network. These coins are in the top 50 by market cap, but I'm sure most people don't know about them. Is there anyone here who can give a quick TLDR on any of these coins?

Holiemolie93

Even from the top 30; what in gods name are LEO & OKB?

LowTriker

Decentralized apps are going to introduce a whole host of issues that can't be considered deeply until we see implementations. We already have coins with similar names and short codes that strip people of their coins unawares. This will only become a bigger problem with decentted apps. In addition, once a bug is discovered in the smart contract how will that be handled? Every developer makes mistakes in direct proportion to the amount of code. I've not heard anyone explain how we will get updated and more secure decentted apps in this case. It's already pretty sketchy when the initial contract is verified by some third party but subsequent updates often are not. Why does this go unnoticed? Because the tech is too complicated and new for the average tech savvy person to be sure. This will only increase with decentted apps. Just as Tor has some serious security holes that allow people to essentially control enough exit nodes to intercept traffic, decentted apps could be compromised by merely flooding the chain with alternatives that drown out the original valuable contracts. LEO could make their own "better" version of popular apps (creating astroturf communities and projects) and get the data they need or at least sow confusion and interrupt the chain transactions by undercutting faith in the chain. At some point there has to be an exit to the real world. People are the biggest security risk to any system. This is where the risk vectors intersect. I'm not saying not to create or encourage decentted apps, I'm just saying I hear a lot of happiness for something isn't mature enough for real financial security and skips over the existing problems of verifying contracts and being sure of where the transaction data resides.

Smiling_Jack_

The Altcoin Season Index is sitting at 27, just 2 above the Bitcoin Season threshold. The only positive performers over the past 90 days from the top 50 are: KAS: 111% BCH: 66% XDC: 65% MKR: 56% XLM: 38% WBT: 13% HBAR: 8% LEO: 8% XRP: 8% https://www.blockchaincenter.net/altcoin-season-index/

Sjiznit

Teh fuck was UNUS SED LEO?

ClippTube

Neo, BCH, LEO, ETC, FIL, VET, EOS

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

LEO was only created by iFinex (parent company of Tether and Bitfinex) to obfuscate the illegal use of USDT in their Bitfinex exchange.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Solana (SOL) and Avalanche (AVAX) are the notable gainers among larger-cap altcoins. Bitcoin experienced volatility, reaching a 13-month high before dropping below $30,000 but managing to defend that level. Altcoins, except for SOL, AVAX, LEO, ARB, and a few others, remained calmer. The weekend was uneventful, with BTC staying just above $30,000. On Tuesday, BTC briefly surpassed $31,000 but was rejected. On Thursday, it reached $31,500 for the first time in 13 months but failed again and dropped to $29,700. However, it bounced back and has remained above $30,000. The altcoins also saw enhanced volatility but have calmed on a daily scale. The cumulative market cap of all crypto assets has reclaimed over $10 billion in a day, standing above $1.8 trillion. SOL and AVAX have gained 13% and 7.5% respectively. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The relevant text of the article states that cryptocurrency exchange Bitfinex has received $312,219.71 in cash and 6.917 Bitcoin Cash (BCH) from the US Department of Homeland Security. The assets will be returned to victims of the 2016 Bitfinex hack on a pro-rated basis. Bitfinex had issued Recovery Rights Tokens (RRTs) after the hack, and after redeeming them with the recovered assets, the remaining funds will be paid to token holders of Bitfinex's native token, Unus Sed Leo (LEO). The 2016 hack resulted in the loss of 119,576 customers' Bitcoin, worth around $70 million at the time and $3.7 billion now. Two individuals connected to the hack have been arrested, and recovery efforts for the funds are ongoing. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

gr8ful4

CMC tell us that "LEO" is #21 ranking before coins like Monero. I am looking at this coin for weeks. But they rarely see total volume exceed $1 million per day. This sounds like another huge case of propping up ones worthless exchange token. Following entities are not recommended: Bitfinex, Binance, OKX, Poloniex, KuCoin, Huobi. If you still use one of those entities GTFO.

sedplas

Btw I did not realise LEO and GTX were also exchange tokens. That does shed a new light on this. Although I wonder CRO is an exchange token as well and it fell over 90% and I am sure there might be more of others which did as well. Any idea what made these exchange tokens stand out?

Pitiful-Scar-2246

TWT is Trust wallet's token. Trust wallet users get benefits for holding certain amounts of those tokens. It could be the reason for it's price action. BNB, OKB, LEO, GMX, are all exchange coins or tokens. Their prices could be kept up by the CEXs that created them.

MichaelAischmann

Not MOONs, DOT, LINK, LEO, BCH, XMR - like 40% of the top 100 are green or less than a % down. Don't see things so grim.

ahabraken

How much of that is in exchange tokens like BNB, UNUS SED LEO or Cronos?

Full-Butterscotch-59

I'm going to make assumptions here: hacking does not mean a DoS attack that creates an outage of some kind. It also does not mean market manipulation or some other thing that could potentially increase transaction fees or manipulate the market value of Bitcoin. Assuming those things, I think the main reason nobody will waste resources trying to recover your private key is that the blockchain makes it really easy to follow the paper trail so to speak. The FBI and other LEO have successfully been able to do some pretty remarkable things in terms of using Bitcoin to prosecute anyone who has been using it for criminal activity and they're just getting started. I think it's funny crypto geeks think the government is against crypto. The financial institutions are slow to warm up to new technologies and especially ones they see as risky. LEO loves Bitcoin. Why steal something you're going to get caught spending or converting into another currency? The first rule of hacking is don't get caught. The type of person who would use tech to commit a crime for profit likes dealing in things that are hard to trace or things that would be embarrassing for their victims so they don't get reported and ultimately their goal is to cover their tracks. If there was a DoS that affected Bitcoin it probably would affect other pieces of infrastructure, so this isn't exactly a crypto specific problem.

BrocoliAssassin

He got to used to everything and got lazy. Whenever you’re doing crimes like that you are just one wrong move away from getting caught. LEO just needs to get lucky once.

Tasigur1

If BTC goes down Altcoins will bleed even more (in most cases). There is a great and relatively unknown tool by Coingecko to check the resilience of Cryptos: [Crypto Price since All Time High in %](https://www.coingecko.com/en/watchlists/all-time-high-crypto) Some resilient Cryptos are: BTC, ETH, BNB, LEO, APT etc I would also add Monero (72% away from it's ATH) I hope this little tool helps a bit :)

funkinaround

Yes. Tether / Bitfinex used Crypto Capital Corp as a payment processor. Crypto Capital Corp's assets, including Tether's / Bitfinex's, were seized by the governments of Portugual, Poland, the UK, and the US. This is the financial loss which is still seeking remedy. Bitfinex issued the LEO token to keep backing for Tether / Bitfinex. Perhaps if Tether was operating under a regulator, they would have been made to declare bankruptcy rather than be able to go through the LEO offering. "Tether’s claims that its virtual currency was fully backed by U.S. dollars at all times was a lie." This is the original sin of Tether where they switched from "1 USDT = 1 USD in a bank account" to "1 USDT = an asset of 1 USD value". I can understand why people are upset with this change, especially if the assets involve longer dated bonds, crypto, secured loans, etc. Tether is at least a bit more transparent about these holdings, now, thanks to the NYAG having forced Tether to produce these attestation reports.

Interested_Redditor

Kind of, sorta. If LEO wants access to your shit and have access to it, this development suggests that they can extract your information.

MoneroWTF

Monero has view keys. If LEO thinks you're up to no good and has sufficient evidence, get a warrant for the view key. If LEO doesn't have sufficient evidence to get a warrant, they can fuck right off. Bunch of nosy busy bodies.

BrocoliAssassin

VPN would have to be 100% trustworthy or else they could just give your info away if LEO wanted it or if it's a honeypot. There are also other identifiers that could track you .

Islami021

BSC comback $LEO - @alcazarworld The team got a project that reached $220M MC, and its current mcap still remains at $50M. 🚀 Partnership with 🔥@AlchemyPay, @hackenclub, and Softgaming Top #1 trending on @DEXToolsApp $LEO current price $3mil mcap https://t.me/AlcazarLEO

Islami021

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bemyking

Why does LEO coin has a huge MC?

giddyup281

Glad you got your post back, OP. File a report with the LEO and say to them to request the ID from Kraken (as the kind people of Kraken said). No other way to get the funds.

H3rbert_K0rnfeld

Can't wait for my miner to be relocated to a SpaceX LEO satellite

rankinrez

It’s surely Starlink or other LEO infrastructure companies enabling this thigh right? Like a remote village in Tanzania, where do they get the backhaul? Regular Joe’s might be able to “run a node” but they can’t provide that. The basic economics of these things remains the same surely?

Impossible_Soup_1932

It's important it sounds cool and it's easy to remember. You won't get rich buying a coin like UNUS SED LEO

niloy_r

Nah, no idea bro. Maybe nobody really wants to buy or sell UNUS SED LEO right now.

alvesthad

LEO token? what the heck is going on here? lol

nobelcause

LEO could certainly see a correction.

Wesley_Binod

Ahhh LEO,one of the 12 crypto constellations

LilEmsi

LEO token with 3200 seems suspect lol

Chysce

What the f\*ck is LEO token lol

Liarus_

I hope to not see exchange coins there anymore: Such as BNB, LEO, OKB, CRO, KCS, GT, HT

Designer_Restaurant1

LEO? Wth is that? And why is it in the top 20?

fleeyevegans

Looks like most of the stablecoins probably. I think shib and tron will probably fade. Don't know anything about LEO.

chance_waters

SOL, SHIB, TRON, AVAX, LEO will all be dead and buried.

French_physicist

What the hell even is LEO? Ranked 21 on CoinGecko right now

EmuGroundbreaking348

If I were to guess, I'd go with LEO, TRON and SHIB. Going by my track record, they'll probably wind up top 10

Whole_Visible

LEO is the Bitfinex token. It won't last in the top 20. TRON should fall out. It had major hype in 2017 and has managed to hang on but I think it'll fall to obscurity eventually

WarrenPuff_It

In your example, any money going through the business is reported. Cash transactions are still reported, businesses file taxes too. Any money in their business accounts is reported. Cash and receivables is reported. Any money flowing through a business as cash transactions is reported. If you're trying to imply someone is taking said money and then only using it for purely cash transactions under the table, sure that might not be reported immediately, but unless you plan to only ever keep that stored in a mattress at some point it has to be reported once it enters a monetary system as stored value in a bank account or through the purchase of assets. A small business is not capable of washing 5 mil, you need many small businesses to spread it out over in order to not raise any alarm bells, and even then once your other nefarious income sources are discovered you best believe they'll start cutting up your mattresses and seizing anything you can't prove as legal income through a paper trail. And my comment was about banks reporting currency movement. Right now anything 10k or over is automatically reported through swift, and central banks are currently looking to make the requirement a smaller increment, somewhere in the hundreds. We already track cash transactions partially right now, whenever you withdraw money from a banking system the serial numbers of every bill you receive has been recorded, they won't know where you take it and what you did with it until that money is deposited back into another bank somewhere, but central banks are aware of how much money you have and how much is in supply because we built gigantic info systems purposefully to track how money moves and where it goes. A drug dealer operating on the periphery of the banking system still needs to at some point interact with the banking system, you can't clean cash without doing so. But the beautiful thing about all these speculative ledgers that people in here are gambling on is the best utility for this technology as a monetary system is its transparency with each transaction. Everyone with an internet connection can see the complete value of your wallet/bank account at all times, and every single exchange you've ever made. That is what we're moving towards, using a public ledger so that all digital transactions are tracked at all times no matter the increments or sum. You buying a pack of gum costs the same amount in permanently recording as someone trying to move millions to wash through a business. And it's that paper trail that banks/LEO use to swing the legal axe.

GreenStretch

"Besides stable coins and let’s also take out the obvious fan hated coins doge and solana" BNB, WBTC, UNUS SED LEO I have owned SOL, DOGE, and ETC, but probably wouldn't buy again.

Simke11

Going by current 25 on CMC and excluding stable coins - ADA, Doge, Tron, Shib, LEO, TON, ETC

LitecoinCale

Forgot LEO was even in the top 25

HearthAttakk

Correct answer is: LEO, TRON & ETC Hive mind answer is: SOL

Available-Top-1160

I don't know what LEO token is

C01n_sh1LL

Have warrants been obtained this way though? That's a more important question. LEO's can make some educated guesses from on-chain data, then use that to get warrants to collect the *real* evidence.

throttledog

In other news we just saved 3 cosmonauts from death as the ISS breaks down. Backchannel LEO?

Ferdo306

What is LEO doing in top 25?

diomediocre

Basically all of them? If you're familiar with the blockchain trilemma, a lot of new chains recognize Ethereum's and Bitcoin's scalability issues early on and focused hard on that, at the concession of decentralization mostly. Most of Ethereum's L2's are highly centralized/not real L2s yet, chain that use Tendermint consensus have small validator sets by default and some even go smaller than necessary (Cosmos, BSC, Polygon), Cardano uses a very unique programming language and coin tracking model that makes it hard to make scalable smart transactions on (eUTXO), XRP has its SEC issue and Ripple dependency/steady unlocks with a consensus model that requires a high consensus rate, DOGE has a number of really weird whale numbers despite being the people's currency, TRON is even more centralized than BSC and basically owned by Justin Sun, Polkadot's rent mechanism is hard for genuine small teams to get past, Avalanche has some very interesting technical views for distributed systems with its chief team members that are far from the standard, XLM, ICP, APT, and most exchange chains like OKB, CRO, LEO, KCS are pretty hyper centralized whether by wallet, control, or validators. Hedera is largely owned by corporations, Algorand has a borked governance model, Fantom had unworkable governance till recently as a large number of validators wouldn't vote, etc. Honestly almost all chains have significant issues you can find if you dig into them. Bitcoin, Ethereum, Monero, and Litecoin are generally the most accepted as "their issues are easily visible but they're still decentralized enough to be secure and function". This isn't to say don't look into other stuff, you literally can't start decentralized, but it's important to be critical and aware of concessions and weaknesses in what you put money into.

MaeronTargaryen

Meh BNB’s market cap is huge, it won’t get great returns now CRO has a bad reputation now because of the slashed rewards HT I wouldn’t touch because of Justin Sun And then what? OKB? LEO? Nothing that I’m excited to buy really

AAAJade

I was very sad to learn a colleague fell for one of these. She lost her savings...and I haven't asked the specific amount- bc well it sucks- yet it was at least 30k ( im thinking it was 5k, 30k then 100k, for 135k total- from what she said, 3 amounts she added more over time....i share so you ALL see how they lure peope in with a small amount..then larger..till they get you to sign over it all) she is battling cancer right now..chemo even... So I helped her track a BTC transaction from her acct that is NOW closed in that investment website- she had a screen shot picture of some entries from when it opened..- and what I hope you all will hear- they put her funds in a pool... tracking the transactions thru the blockchain...and we found info to turn over to LEO...this scam had a legal business registration and had registered to be able to hold identities via FINCEN... so she, with her baaic understanding thought- OK this is LEGIT- no it wasnt... yet she really thought bc of those factors.. they were. I need people to hear the extent they are going through..and it IS worth it, they steal a half million from a few people they can grow it in a pool and exit out...in multiples...its a longer running con...yet...they are doing this... and if anyone else experiences this - trace the transactions bc they don't think anyone will...and there is information there.. we found email addresses we were able to track people down...BC they think NO ONE WILL..so please if scammed ..trace as much as you can for information of who these people are..bc the low level scams like this, in compared to FTX level, they leave clues behind bc they honestly know LEO won't look thru it all... So please know they are stealing and multiplying their gains...and somehow they..in THIS situation have a tie to silver gate bank in San diego.. They seem to like taking bit coin to pool and exiting in USDC... I'm still attempting to get all the information I can from the tracing we have been doing...yet I can also affirm that LEO does NOT understand crypto. The CBI, Colorado Bureau of Investigation, those agents had NO understanding of the basics. So know that many USA LEO agencies, those feild agents, at this time, do NOT have conversational working knowledge of how crypto functions and moves, they do not know the KYC protocols...FINCEN, hard wallets, CEX/DEX.. I heard the conversation... ..why am I saying this... bc ... we in this "space" forget how little the public and the people whose jobs it is to protect USA finances... simply do NOT yet have the education... to even investigate a simple rug pull in crypto.. a business scammed it's clients and the CBI doesn't understand a liquididty pool ... They do NOT know anything about the DBDC either. That's kinda telling. If they don't know a USA digital currency is coming... how well are the agents trained in financial crimes Investigations? So I'm sharing this here bc Mr atty.. youre correct... I'm stunned how little people actually understand about crypto. I knew we were all early adopters and users.. I didn't realize HOW early. Be well all... and not your Keys/DRS... not yours.. Will define the coming era. 🤜🦍🤛

Emergency_Special849

How could I never hear of UNUS SED LEO?

sickvisionz

I want to say Bitfinex did something like this and it actually worked out pretty well for them and the users. The token they issued was $LEO. > But I wonder what is in it for those investors (or gamblers) who are willing to buy these tokenised claims. Same thing as any investor: they hope that when they want to sell/redeem, the value will be higher than it was when they bought it.