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Formal_Regret_1628

I am well in the red like most of you. Here is my journey. ETH==>ICE==>ETH==>SAND==>LRC==>ADA==>SHEN I'm gonna keep holding the Djed reserve coin for a while. It is highly correlated with ADA

syncphail

re elon how can you hate someone who has made EVs not only competitive and a compelling financially sound alternative for ICE reduced the cost of getting mass to orbit and pushing humanity forward in space exploration revolutionised internet connectivity, both in terms of global latency and remote access just achieve one of these things is a great accomplishment for any individual but of course, if you're the type that just falls in line with whatever the talking heads are saying then yeah, you probably hate elon, but that's only a recent phenomenon, like i said, many people are brainwashed and they seem to gravitate to reddit too lol

DrKhuntoshi

Citizen in Kangerlussuaq, Greenland here. The ICE CAP is fine. Not bitcoins fault. Our normal summer is like +30 c and winter approx. -46 c. That guy from Greenpeace he’s all 🧢

tambaybtc

TL;DR: This move will allow institutional investors to securely store and manage their digital assets through ICE's existing platform. ICE's foray into the crypto custody space reflects the increasing demand for regulated and secure crypto services among traditional financial players.

draccon136

People are already having a hard time coming together to mass protest getting murdered or injured by police, landlords, employers, ICE, bankers, fossil fuel companies, and the ruling elites generally, despite having everything on the line. So maybe there's more space for outcry about the SEC and crypto regulation after we get our shit together, or it falls apart.

urban_squid

Bitcoin being made illegal in the USA is extremely unlikely due to the following reasons: 1) The Trendon Shavers case gave legal precedent that Bitcoin is not an illegal security according to the Howey test 2) The IRS has already formalized how it treats Bitcoin (as an asset) 3) Many wealthy and highly connected individuals have personally invested in Bitcoin and they wont be too happy if their peers in politics make Bitcoin illegal 4) Traditional Fintech in the USA like ICE/BAKKT(owner of NYSE) , Fidelity, TD ameritrade, CME, and more are already directly involved in Bitcoin mining, investing and trading. 5) Exchanges like coinbase, square, gemini , and more already are very large companies heavily involved in Bitcoin 6) Many local states have both case law and legislation on Bitcoin making it more difficult to make illegal 7) There is plenty of existing case law in US courts that have shown encryption and code to fall under the 1st amendment protections 8) Making it illegal would not stop bitcoin but just reflect they are a totalitarian government and an inept one at that because stopping Bitcoin is far more difficult than winning the war on drugs “I think we were past that point [of banning Bitcoin in the US] very early on because you’d have to shut down the internet,” Peirce said. “I don’t see how you could ban it. You could certainly make the effort. It would be very hard to stop people from doing it [trading Bitcoin],” she said. "So I think it would be a foolish thing for the government to try to do that." -- Hester Peirce, one of the commissioner of the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) There are many attacks possible but the game theory of Bitcoin using PoW makes such attacks costly and the alternative of securing Bitcoin profitable. So a state could attempt to disrupt bitcoin and than since bitcoin uses PoW which gives us an objective understanding of part of the security we can quickly identify the attack and have multiple avenues of recourse A state attacking bitcoin directly at this stage would actually have serious blowback and social/political consequences

classAunotherest

Wow YOUR COLD AS ICE

tomfoolery77

ICE! I rode it all the way up to $50 only to see it fall well below $1. Lost about $75K in unrealized gains

Odysseus_Lannister

What killed the dinosaurs? **THE ICE AGE!!**

Fullback22x

Agreed on the bridge part. IBC and ICE on cosmos is very similar to DOTs ecosystem. Focusing on the bridges is what cosmos has done and that’s a huge part of the SDK. BVM is very likely NOT to happen (Atleast not on main BTC blockchain) but ETH fan boys are just not looking at the right thing. If BTC adopted a BVM that kills ETH the day it rolls out. All those caveats about a pre-mine and things that people complain about will actually matter in that case as it would make BTC the less captured chain. Right now the only thing keeping BTC from destroying ETHs entire premise is the fact they don’t enable smart contracts and it’s not turing complete. The second ETH comes close to flipping BTC that mind set will change. Devs, holders, and miners will want to start to innovate again and what better to do is take what has worked for another monolithic chain and implement the “safe” and tried features. Basically looking at ETH as a test net for future BTC features. Things like PoS probably wouldn’t be ported over, but implementing a layer 2 (or even layer 1) BVM is definitely doable (ICP already is working on a VM that works and verified through state channels). That’s the thing about crypto. BTC has and always will have the highest perceived value. BTC can quite literally replicate any other chain if it wanted to, or simply just siphon off any tested and working parts to its own chain. Atom and DOT are much different scenarios as they aren’t monolithic like BTC and ETH are. They have a place. ETHs best case scenario is that everything is multichain much like it is today. With BTC being a store of value and working as it has for the past decade with zero innovation, and ETH being the main VM that everything is deployed on. However, most companies wanting to deploy to a blockchain are not going to want to give up control to ETH holders. They will make their own app chains where they can give control to people that invest in them and be able to pull resources from other chains.

Every_Hunt_160

When you realise crypto winter is almost over But the next season is the ICE AGE !

InternationalSilver1

i honestly think people will love having such as service due to controversies surrounding github copilot github is being actively boycotted and sued by the software freedom conservancy for infringing on the GPL via github copilot and helping assist unjust government agencies such as ICE ​ [https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/](https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/) [https://sfconservancy.org/news/2022/nov/04/class-action-lawsuit-filing-copilot/](https://sfconservancy.org/news/2022/nov/04/class-action-lawsuit-filing-copilot/) ​ [https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/01/ice-contract-github-sparks-developer-protests/604339/](https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/01/ice-contract-github-sparks-developer-protests/604339/)

23SNAFU23

ICX ICON has BTP and XCall coming. Blockchain Transmission Protocol (BTP) is ICON’s cross-chain interoperability solution. ICON’s BTP facilitates the transfer of information between connected blockchains. In practice, BTP will allow users to move tokens, NFTs, messages, and more across BTP-enabled chains. xCall is a key feature of BTP and ICON’s unique standard for generic cross-chain messaging between heterogeneous blockchains. A growing number of blockchains are implementing BTP smart contracts. Here’s a list of future connected partners: ICE Blockchain Moonriver Blockchain Moonbeam Blockchain Algorand Blockchain BNB Smart Chain Harmony Protocol NEAR Protocol

Big_Rally

i used to play ICE poker in decentraland. it’s play to earn so you can’t lose any money. you need an nft to play but can get delegated one. if you’re in to no limit hold ‘em i recommend it.

gvictor808

They are invested and think they will lose something if something else takes mindshare. It’s like the ICE folks freaking out about EVs. They aren’t totally wrong, but idiots like to overreact and hate to learn new stuff.

EchoCollection

Where can I buy ICE lol?

rsicher1

Alright now fellas What's cooler than being cool? ICE COLD CRYPTO

Da_Notorious_HAM

I scream, you scream, we all scream, FOR ICE CREAM!!!!

exotixzonLy

He don’t care about TSLA losing money, TSLA has never made money off its cars and probally never will they make a their money selling the carbon credits they don’t use to other companies like for to create their ICE , also all the gov subsidies, it’s all smoke and mirrors over there

Every_Hunt_160

Maybe all OP was tryna say was 'As we are leaving the crypto winter.. to the ICE AGE' !

Maleficent_Plankton

**This is extremely specific to Ice Poker (Stronghold)**. There are dozens of other casinos in DCL, and all of them are completely empty. In fact, there are several other Ice Poker casinos in DCL, and they are empty too. Only the Stronghold location has players. **I think it's due to the Ice Poker tokenomics, and how players are trapped into playing the game**: * Ice Poker is F2P as long as you own an ICE Poker NFT wearable. * Every day, ICE NFT holders get more Ice chips that allow them to play games. Winning games give them ICE tokens they can sell on DeFi exchanges. * Participants have to spend initial money buying a ICE NFT wearable. A year ago, they were $4000. Now they're $100-200. Not all wearables are the same. The more expensive ones provide a larger bonus to how much ICE you can earn. * Players have to spend a ton of time playing to win ICE tokens * The price of the ICE token keeps falling, down 95% in a year. The price of the NFTs has also completely crashed. The initial NFT investment is so high, and daily earnings from winning are so low. I suspect many players are visiting daily just to win ICE tokens and try to make back their initial investment.

Maleficent_Plankton

I looked a little into Ice Poker tokenomics, and I get this sinking feeling that it's structured like an MLM. * Participants have to spend initial money buying a ICE NFT wearable (a year ago, they were $4000). * They have to spend a ton of time playing to get ICE * The [price of the ICE token](Yes. I definitely hate crowds and waiting in lines at typical tourist attractions) keeps falling * The price of wearables is now $100-200 on the secondary market. I wonder how many players actually even broke even playing the game. Or are they just trapped trying to make back their initial investment. Feels like an MLM in that sense.

zoomercoomer9000

Very nice Mr. Plankton. Appreciate the effort in providing all these screenshots, and the review. Reading up on Ice Poker, players are rewarded with $ICE tokens for completing tasks. This token can then be exchanged for money, currently at around half a cent per $ICE. In your article, you mention half of all visitors to Decentraland come for Ice Poker. So at the moment it might be a fair assessment that DCL is functioning primarily as a virtual casino, at least in terms of visitor activity.

Maleficent_Plankton

There's almost entirely just blackjack, roulette, and slots. I think a lot of the casinos are just reusing the same table models because they all look the same. You can bet with free tokens or with the casino's paid tokens. At least one of the Casinos, Diamonds, offered Texas Hold'em, but you needed a paid NFT to enter the building. ICE Poker has poker tables, but without anyone to play with, you can't start a game.

Yokkster

ICE poker is pretty cool.

AlligatorDerby

To be honest... She probably also wants to take your \[ICE\] cars away...

jimapp

I've been a quiet little mouse - no Moons since September! Anyway, let's look forward to a better 2023! LAMBOS ON ICE!!!

CryptoScamee42069

More like ICE took him in. Never once seen or heard of the jolly fat man doing his visa papers.

Jpalin6

Bringing Crypto onto a regulated exchange will be next step. Look for ICE (Intercontinental Exchange) or the CME (Chicago Mercantile Exchange) to work with Congress to establish regulations and “exchange” wallets.

SenseiRaheem

The future will be ICE COLD wallets

Oversizedbull69

Is ICE coin good master ?

bad-crypto-advice

Why don’t you like ICE coin?

Kappatalizable

Fuck off ICE and Warren

marsangelo

Doesnt matter what ICE boss and Warren want, nobody and not even Congress trust the SEC with this

Wonzky

I thought they were talking immigration ICE for a sec and got really confused

Intelligent_Page2732

NYSE-owner ICE's CEO is now on my naughty list for Christmas.

Albinonite

Even ICE AGE ended in the past, so will crypto winter.

International_Cup588

When you know fuck about shit, the reason why crypto is a shitshow because everyone too focused on the fiat value. It would be like me buying an EV in hopes that In a month i could sell it for two ICE cars.

yourmom_fat_as_hippo

>GBTC is registered with the SEC, audited, and its NYSE-listed and regulated custody agent Coinbase has confirmed that the bitcoin are all there. The massive discount is better explained by the absence of any ETF-style arbitrage mechanism. > >As money poured into the trust, its shares actually generally traded at a premium to the bitcoin it held, so GBTC issued a lot of new shares to soak up demand and buy more bitcoin. But now that the tide has reversed, there is no easy way to arbitrage the gap and align the share value and NAV of GBTC > >The crypto grim reaper surveying at a target-rich environment, with even stronger players looking a little pallid. Coinbase shares fell another 8 per cent yesterday to give it a market cap of under $10bn (it IPO’d at a $76bn valuation last year, more than the NYSE’s parent ICE). ​ This is actually a well researched and written article. No bias taken on any side. neutral writing. This is actually good journalism.

CryptBear

Comparing a PoW coins energy consumption to a PoS coins consumption is like comparing emissions on an EV and an ICE vehicle. One will obviously be a lot better in that aspect but the other will have other benefits overall.

uselessadjective

And Elon does this almost on a daily basis wirh other *ICE Car Companies touting Tesla as the savior* ... peddling on the clean energy wagon. Showing others in a bad light even insulting. CZ is doing exactly the same thing..

BerryMas0n

None of the real exchanges (NYSE, NASDAQ, CBOT, ICE, etc.) had any issues, because they make money from membership fees.

BeamStop23

In what way seriously? You know that EVs existed before Tesla right? That it was China that developed cheap EVs. That there is actually no conspiracy by western car OEMs they were just too expensive to sell. It's actually CHEAPER* and more profitable to make an EV than a ICE car. The problem has ALWAYS been battery costs. That there WAS actually a real conspiracy between LG, Panasonic, Samsung, etc to price fix costs to US OEMs. That on top of that there were NMC and LFP patent/commercialization costs that nobody wanted to pay for (or steal) except China. That Tesla survived this by having a ton of private and public money poured into it including from car OEMs, that it was never him against the the world but him against being profitable under western conditions. That it's valuation growth is no different than that of other Chinese EV players like CATL. That batteries costs were always expected to come down in costs. Some OEMs like Toyota did screw up but the vast majority the major gatekeeping was battery cost. There are other innovations you can give credit towards but all of them are nothing novel and simply don't work yet as advertised

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A deep-dive into our marketing strategy to onboard, retain, and delight the next million+ players into the ICE Poker ecosystem. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

AnusWithEbola

>Play Poker in the Metaverse ICE Poker is a free metaverse poker game - enter tournaments, complete daily challenges, and compete against other players to earn valuable rewards. Why do I need the "metaverse" for that, and what's the point anyway

Andyb1000

Only [2,833 wallets as per CMC](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zel/holders/) so I guess not many people have. PoW is on the way out, just like ICE cars for electric. It’s a matter of time.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bakkt Holdings, a digital asset platform majority owned by Intercontinental Exchange (ICE), has agreed to buy Apex Crypto LLC for as much as $200 million to expand its product offering. Bakkt will pay $55 million in cash to acquire the unit owned by Apex Fintech Solutions Inc., according to a statement from the buyer. The deal is expected to be completed in the first half of 2023. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

TheHollywoodTrader

I play poker for free in Decentraland with Decentral Games ICE Poker and win real cash. Not as much as it used to be but it only takes an hour to finish the challenges and is pretty fun.

johnnyb0083

40%ish, a little better than an ICE engine. This is assuming an electric car is 100% fueled by coal for it to be "more" dirty than a car. Baseline power comes from many different sources, Coal is one of them, Nuclear is another which is very clean in terms of Green House Gases. The key take away is this, electric cars once built are contribute less to global warming. If you care one way or another mass transit is always the best. Electric cars don't really do enough.

johnnyb0083

So true, however electric cars are vastly more energy efficient than ICE engines. Electric motors run at about 90% efficiency, it's why their range is decent even though the energy capacity of batteries is 3 to 4 times lower than a tank of gasoline. Also gasoline is transported by...wait for it...more gasoline. There are reductions in the energy grid as well.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Their new company, Naxo, has contracts with ICE, the DOJ and the SEC. It’s also offering to exhume cryptocurrency locked away in hard drives. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Rough_Data_6015

Does ICE run on gas?

HazardIsFunny

You understand energy is more than just electricity right? Gas for ICE is getting INSANE. your comment is just stupid.

Big_Rally

I used to play play-to-earn ICE poker in decentraland on 5 different accounts. Replaced my full time job. Was making about $3500 a month. Good times

FistyFisticuffs

That's not true at all. Have you had access to Chainanalysis or for that matter, any of the other less well-known blockchain analytics services? It's not some magical service where you enter a name and you get a handy json payload with all their crypto details, or enter an address and blammo, your name pops up. It's not like that at all. There are two issues here that gets muddled: one is the determination that certain pub keys are a part of the same wallet (in a derivation-based scheme, or just pooled pre-generated addresses like early Bitcoin Core implementations), and attribution of that wallet to a specific person or entity. LE has the added task of proving not just access or ownership but the actual act, because on chain someone who has a hold of your private key sending all your coins to a mixer looks the same as you sending all your coins to a mixer , but the underlying rationale would be completely different. Firstly you can forget about a straight up on-chain analysis involving chains like XMR which Chainalysis more or less admitted in court filings that they can't track, without saying it outright (although they managed to show it in illustrated diagrams). Nor is the available clustering analysis that is most common in lieu of other extrinsic identifiers on other chains really usable on its own with any degree of certainty. I've tested multiple services and found that they can't even agree on which addresses necessarily belong to one wallet (in terms of non-EVM chains) and attributive identification is frequently crowdsourced by those using the platforms to investigate, which means a mistake can be saved as factual and have it persist. Police and ICE databases have a lot of errors contained within for the same reasons, btw, and I suspect that if an ID is made purely through a blockchain analytics company's data and defense motions to suppress and gets denied, appeals, and gets its way in front of any appellate level court applying the current standard in use in the jurisdiction (Frye or Daubert, although I'd imagine even though the biggest states are on Frye, most cases end up on Daubert since federally it's the standard), it would be difficult to think that any expert would be able to testify in a manner that convinces the court of the reliability of their methodology as a general rule without, well, lying. At best it would be admitted on a case-by-case basis, but even if the clustering can be considered reasonably accurate, attribution will be problematic since proving that addresses belong to the same wallet doesn't solve the problem that more than one person can have access to a private key, whether intentional or not, and the justice system generally operates *in personam*, especially the criminal justice system, since you can't lock up a private key in prison, or attribute any intent or act to what is ultimately a very large number. I can imagine that LE would leverage the lack of technical knowledge on the part of courts and attorneys to use pseudoscience to close their cases. Hell, most of forensic non-DNA evidence is based on conjecture in a way that should not be and should not have been admitted uncorroborated independently. But there's a real tech knowledge gap and most tech-competent attorneys end up working in fields of law where the most is on the line - namely life and liberty. I don't know how that problem can be resolved, since really tech competent attorneys tend to get poached - sometimes before graduating law school, even - by firms that deal with IP, or big law that handles corporate cases. The salary disparity is too great and student loans are crippling enough that you basically have to really be a true believer in an almost moralistic, principled sense to hold the state accountable while at the same time choosing to not leverage your tech skills in the majority of your cases and work in an environment where your case load is ridiculous and in the entire profession only you do not get to pick your clients. All that just to know when to challenge the sufficiency and validity of evidence when LE tries to pull a fast one. But without that expertise, the challenges don't get made, and the perception that pseudoscientific practices of these companies acting on behalf of the state will remain lofty and given far more weight than they deserve. So, it's natural to imagine that blockchain analysis is able to achieve what you think it can achieve, but that's not because it's actually true, but rather, it's the perception sold by those running the companies and LE who thinks the population at large are idiots and it's less important on catching the right criminal than any person who can be coerced into taking a plea, and the fucked up system makes it difficult to balance the scales in a meaningful, systemic manner.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Martin Small will succeed Gary Shedlin as Chief Financial Officer of BlackRock in 2023. Shedlin will take on a new role as Vice Chairman working directly with key strategic clients of the firm. Intercontinental Exchange has named Caterina Caramaschi as Head of a combined portfolio covering ICE's global interest rates and equity derivatives futures and options. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

encryptedTurtle

I’m pretty sure this is false because at least 1k people daily are playing ICE Poker, but I think that number is actually 10k.

BerryMas0n

will anyone ever explain that other than CME and ICE, all other crypto platforms are actually OTC dealers with no clearing, insurance, and most don't have legal compliance for customer funds?

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Karma-Kamillion

He didn't just come up with it out of nowhere, he did however find a good technical implementation. Also bitcoin did have lots of unintended consequences like shifting the focus on electricity prices, power consumption and generation which are all very important, especially when more and more governments ban the sale of new ICE cars while doing nothing to make electricity available or affordable. This wasn't what Satoshi wanted to achieve when creating btc, but it took a life of its own and I think that's one of the reasons why he chose to disappear. In the end he did fail to create an alternative currency to fiat so that people could ditch banks and governments couldn't control their financial transactions.

PsyOmega

Electric cars emit more pollutants than ICE cars. They just do it all at once during manufacturing.

N00bFac3

RVN proposes actual solutions to actual problems. Has very serious people helping build on the chain including real estate tokenization in Australia and the US, a tokenized Bitcoin farm being sold as a security (like shares but on a blockchain). tZERO gaining many patents that the lead dev for RVN wrote and IMO is purpose built to be used on RVN when ICE starts building their exchange and partnership with tZERO.

tomfoolery77

ICE

Emergency_Dragonfly4

crypto being an environmental danger is such BS when we still have ICE cars on the road, rampant airline travel, and massive meat/livestock production

Woodpecker3453

I'm not gonna argue with you because Europe has its own issues. It would be incredibly naive of me to say otherwise. Europe is far from perfect, just like America or East Asia. I'll just say that, in my opinion, brands like Lamborghini, Mercedes, or Bentley are more akin to the old school American manufacturers like Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge, whose founders all died before the 50s. I understand that Tesla, for example, is a new brand, and while it attracts different types of buyers, it can be compared to Mclaren, as they are both very young companies of a similar age. And I do think that while the car industry is changing, it won't necessarily be going away. I think first we will fully transition to EVs (whether they are better than ICE cars or not is another debate), before having fully self-driving cars which will then become pods of transportation, like miniature buses.

free_the_worlds

Coinbase works with ICE and pushed for doubling the block size, and all of them require kyc.

HODL_monk

California has already planned to ban ICE cars, so if you don't like electric, it might just make sense to speak up, or come to Texas, we will never ban gas :)

Kap-One

AGREED! I have been apart of many myself! ICE DAO, TIME, FORTRESS, and the most recent... ARBIC FINANCE! I lost 80K on that one! That stung a little! :)

SiriusTantriqa-405

This ranks right up there with Subaru’s claim some of their ICE models are “pzev or partial zero emission vehicles”, lol. What the hell is a partial zero, anyways? Zero is indivisible for crying out loud.

HelpMeSucceedPlz

Thats some pretty bad math. That's $60,000,000 for one hour plus $500,000. What's your plan, to stiff them all and tell them to get lost or your calling ICE when the coin is never recovered?

ndgoLiberty

I’ve listened to a few bitcoin miners and they say it’s ridiculously unsustainable to go around installing 5 bitcoin miners and a generator at each flaring or leaking well. Their strategy has been to find gas pipelines with excess free capacity and install large multi megawatt immersion cooled sites. If anybody is running around with a trailer of s9s, an ICE generator, and a really long Ethernet cable let me know.

dizietgurgehsma

Which is my point. Everything is political if you want to frame it this way, which means saying that Bitcoin is political is meaningless, because anything can be. Electric cars are by quite a few measures better than ICE ones these days, even if you don't care about the environment at all. Reddit is better than the other social platforms for many people, it's position on free speech doesn't come into it. Bitcoin is better money, the politics of it are not the only reason to be a proponent.

The_Ghostdriver

-Guys is ruthless has no morals. Has kids he doesnt have anything to do with. -Pretends hes saving the world by mining cobalt and lithium that for just one battery pollutes more in carbon footprint than one ICE car does for its entire life. Working conditions in the mines in Africa are basically slavery. He is quoted as saying he would think nothing of instilling a tinpit govt so that he could control the mining market. -He is a Crypto Market manipulator (practically inside trader) and pumps and dumps via tweets but thankfully the discerning know what hes about and dont fall for it now as much. - His biggest flaw is his Ego. What goes around comes around he fucked Twitter around with his big mouth. Now he will learn a lesson as a man who swings a cat by its tail can learn no other way.

guacotaco

ah yes, like the famously left wing CIA, which coups leaders to prop up socialist and communist governments abroad. wait, no, that's not right at all. or the famously left wing FBI who hire weed smoking college liberals. wait, no. you can't work for the FBI if you like weed. or ICE. who gave up raiding businesses and communities up so illegal immigrants can freely walk into the country. wait. damn, no not that either. maybe the department of energy is full of leftists though. I'd bet that's the ticket.

RDMvb6

Please let us know if you are voting with your wallet or with your keyboard? Have you taken out a short position on TSLA? Historically, that has not worked out well for most who have tried it. I'm not a Musk fanboy by any means but the long term outlook for EVs remains really good and they are the industry leader. And the fact is that their cars crash and catch on fire far less frequently than ICE vehicles. The only reason you have even heard of Tesla's catching on fire is because every very rare time that it happens, the short sellers push the story onto their media friends for the express purpose of trying to push the stock down to make a quick buck.

ethereumflow

Anyone here still into Icon? I’m curious to know how things are going with their BTP (Blockchain Transmission Protocol) developments. Any chains aside from ICE been integrated?

Responsible_Fan3072

I heard about Coinbase selling geolocation to ICE. Given that it is a cryptocurrency exchange, why in the world do they even need to access geolocation?

Fragmented_Logik

Given all of coinbases involvement with the US government I doubt they go bankrupt. They just sold some software to the US and with their ICE stuff. CB being in bed with the feds. They'll keep them around.

IceColdPorkSoda

It took hundred of years of technical innovations to get to the first car. And the first car was far from ideal. You could not take a model T and modify it into a Ferrari. You have to make an entirely new car from the ground up to get to a model T even though they share some core commonalities (4 wheels, ICE, steering wheel, etc). Bitcoin may have a role in the future of finance and the economy, but to declare it’s the “be all end all” is just asinine.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase recently agreed to provide U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with access to its blockchain analysis tool. ICE gained access to “multi-hop analysis”, “Lightning network investigation,” “historical geo tracking data” and “transaction demixing and shielded transaction analysis.” ICE has purchased licenses from Chainalysis since 2016. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase recently agreed to provide U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with access to its blockchain analysis tool. ICE gained access to “multi-hop analysis”, “Lightning network investigation,” “historical geo tracking data” and “transaction demixing and shielded transaction analysis.” ICE has purchased licenses from Chainalysis since 2016. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Melting_Harps

>sexy Check out the Blockfi sponsorship... might as well say FTX on it now. It's an odd looking car in real life, nothing like the MK3/4 which were much larger and had a sort of Japanese muscle car look to them. I had a good look at a stock one and wasn't taken by it. Then I saw one with tons of aero mods on it and it started to resemble a Rocketbunny newer AE86 (if you squinted really hard), it's a bit but still looked too generic for the price tag. I think it's clear that the ICE era is over, when platform sharing of these high ticket vehicles across rival non-domestic brands is happening it's just a cost savings marketing ploy, the BRZ/AE86 was a clear indication things were heading this way but this sealed the deal that the ICE cars have peaked: they put 2JZs in these, which is an amazing engine... from the early 90s! I hope this means Lamborghini finally decide to move forward with the Terzo Millenio out of concept/rolling shell and finally put an EV motor in it to rival the Roadster II specs and do a limited production like the Veneno.

Quangholio

Look into ICE Poker and their application of NFTs

just_thisGuy

If you can manage cheap ICE for a few years, Yes, but remember all the maintenance and gas costs make sure they are in your equation. Tesla stock and BTC will be going to the moon, if I was you I’d get BTC and Tesla stock. Stay away from margin accounts.