ICE

International_Cup588

When you know fuck about shit, the reason why crypto is a shitshow because everyone too focused on the fiat value. It would be like me buying an EV in hopes that In a month i could sell it for two ICE cars.

yourmom_fat_as_hippo

>GBTC is registered with the SEC, audited, and its NYSE-listed and regulated custody agent Coinbase has confirmed that the bitcoin are all there. The massive discount is better explained by the absence of any ETF-style arbitrage mechanism. > >As money poured into the trust, its shares actually generally traded at a premium to the bitcoin it held, so GBTC issued a lot of new shares to soak up demand and buy more bitcoin. But now that the tide has reversed, there is no easy way to arbitrage the gap and align the share value and NAV of GBTC > >The crypto grim reaper surveying at a target-rich environment, with even stronger players looking a little pallid. Coinbase shares fell another 8 per cent yesterday to give it a market cap of under $10bn (it IPO’d at a $76bn valuation last year, more than the NYSE’s parent ICE). ​ This is actually a well researched and written article. No bias taken on any side. neutral writing. This is actually good journalism.

CryptBear

Comparing a PoW coins energy consumption to a PoS coins consumption is like comparing emissions on an EV and an ICE vehicle. One will obviously be a lot better in that aspect but the other will have other benefits overall.

uselessadjective

And Elon does this almost on a daily basis wirh other *ICE Car Companies touting Tesla as the savior* ... peddling on the clean energy wagon. Showing others in a bad light even insulting. CZ is doing exactly the same thing..

BerryMas0n

None of the real exchanges (NYSE, NASDAQ, CBOT, ICE, etc.) had any issues, because they make money from membership fees.

BeamStop23

In what way seriously? You know that EVs existed before Tesla right? That it was China that developed cheap EVs. That there is actually no conspiracy by western car OEMs they were just too expensive to sell. It's actually CHEAPER* and more profitable to make an EV than a ICE car. The problem has ALWAYS been battery costs. That there WAS actually a real conspiracy between LG, Panasonic, Samsung, etc to price fix costs to US OEMs. That on top of that there were NMC and LFP patent/commercialization costs that nobody wanted to pay for (or steal) except China. That Tesla survived this by having a ton of private and public money poured into it including from car OEMs, that it was never him against the the world but him against being profitable under western conditions. That it's valuation growth is no different than that of other Chinese EV players like CATL. That batteries costs were always expected to come down in costs. Some OEMs like Toyota did screw up but the vast majority the major gatekeeping was battery cost. There are other innovations you can give credit towards but all of them are nothing novel and simply don't work yet as advertised

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; A deep-dive into our marketing strategy to onboard, retain, and delight the next million+ players into the ICE Poker ecosystem. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

AnusWithEbola

>Play Poker in the Metaverse ICE Poker is a free metaverse poker game - enter tournaments, complete daily challenges, and compete against other players to earn valuable rewards. Why do I need the "metaverse" for that, and what's the point anyway

Andyb1000

Only [2,833 wallets as per CMC](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zel/holders/) so I guess not many people have. PoW is on the way out, just like ICE cars for electric. It’s a matter of time.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Bakkt Holdings, a digital asset platform majority owned by Intercontinental Exchange (ICE), has agreed to buy Apex Crypto LLC for as much as $200 million to expand its product offering. Bakkt will pay $55 million in cash to acquire the unit owned by Apex Fintech Solutions Inc., according to a statement from the buyer. The deal is expected to be completed in the first half of 2023. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

TheHollywoodTrader

I play poker for free in Decentraland with Decentral Games ICE Poker and win real cash. Not as much as it used to be but it only takes an hour to finish the challenges and is pretty fun.

johnnyb0083

40%ish, a little better than an ICE engine. This is assuming an electric car is 100% fueled by coal for it to be "more" dirty than a car. Baseline power comes from many different sources, Coal is one of them, Nuclear is another which is very clean in terms of Green House Gases. The key take away is this, electric cars once built are contribute less to global warming. If you care one way or another mass transit is always the best. Electric cars don't really do enough.

johnnyb0083

So true, however electric cars are vastly more energy efficient than ICE engines. Electric motors run at about 90% efficiency, it's why their range is decent even though the energy capacity of batteries is 3 to 4 times lower than a tank of gasoline. Also gasoline is transported by...wait for it...more gasoline. There are reductions in the energy grid as well.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Their new company, Naxo, has contracts with ICE, the DOJ and the SEC. It’s also offering to exhume cryptocurrency locked away in hard drives. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Rough_Data_6015

Does ICE run on gas?

HazardIsFunny

You understand energy is more than just electricity right? Gas for ICE is getting INSANE. your comment is just stupid.

Big_Rally

I used to play play-to-earn ICE poker in decentraland on 5 different accounts. Replaced my full time job. Was making about $3500 a month. Good times

FistyFisticuffs

That's not true at all. Have you had access to Chainanalysis or for that matter, any of the other less well-known blockchain analytics services? It's not some magical service where you enter a name and you get a handy json payload with all their crypto details, or enter an address and blammo, your name pops up. It's not like that at all. There are two issues here that gets muddled: one is the determination that certain pub keys are a part of the same wallet (in a derivation-based scheme, or just pooled pre-generated addresses like early Bitcoin Core implementations), and attribution of that wallet to a specific person or entity. LE has the added task of proving not just access or ownership but the actual act, because on chain someone who has a hold of your private key sending all your coins to a mixer looks the same as you sending all your coins to a mixer , but the underlying rationale would be completely different. Firstly you can forget about a straight up on-chain analysis involving chains like XMR which Chainalysis more or less admitted in court filings that they can't track, without saying it outright (although they managed to show it in illustrated diagrams). Nor is the available clustering analysis that is most common in lieu of other extrinsic identifiers on other chains really usable on its own with any degree of certainty. I've tested multiple services and found that they can't even agree on which addresses necessarily belong to one wallet (in terms of non-EVM chains) and attributive identification is frequently crowdsourced by those using the platforms to investigate, which means a mistake can be saved as factual and have it persist. Police and ICE databases have a lot of errors contained within for the same reasons, btw, and I suspect that if an ID is made purely through a blockchain analytics company's data and defense motions to suppress and gets denied, appeals, and gets its way in front of any appellate level court applying the current standard in use in the jurisdiction (Frye or Daubert, although I'd imagine even though the biggest states are on Frye, most cases end up on Daubert since federally it's the standard), it would be difficult to think that any expert would be able to testify in a manner that convinces the court of the reliability of their methodology as a general rule without, well, lying. At best it would be admitted on a case-by-case basis, but even if the clustering can be considered reasonably accurate, attribution will be problematic since proving that addresses belong to the same wallet doesn't solve the problem that more than one person can have access to a private key, whether intentional or not, and the justice system generally operates *in personam*, especially the criminal justice system, since you can't lock up a private key in prison, or attribute any intent or act to what is ultimately a very large number. I can imagine that LE would leverage the lack of technical knowledge on the part of courts and attorneys to use pseudoscience to close their cases. Hell, most of forensic non-DNA evidence is based on conjecture in a way that should not be and should not have been admitted uncorroborated independently. But there's a real tech knowledge gap and most tech-competent attorneys end up working in fields of law where the most is on the line - namely life and liberty. I don't know how that problem can be resolved, since really tech competent attorneys tend to get poached - sometimes before graduating law school, even - by firms that deal with IP, or big law that handles corporate cases. The salary disparity is too great and student loans are crippling enough that you basically have to really be a true believer in an almost moralistic, principled sense to hold the state accountable while at the same time choosing to not leverage your tech skills in the majority of your cases and work in an environment where your case load is ridiculous and in the entire profession only you do not get to pick your clients. All that just to know when to challenge the sufficiency and validity of evidence when LE tries to pull a fast one. But without that expertise, the challenges don't get made, and the perception that pseudoscientific practices of these companies acting on behalf of the state will remain lofty and given far more weight than they deserve. So, it's natural to imagine that blockchain analysis is able to achieve what you think it can achieve, but that's not because it's actually true, but rather, it's the perception sold by those running the companies and LE who thinks the population at large are idiots and it's less important on catching the right criminal than any person who can be coerced into taking a plea, and the fucked up system makes it difficult to balance the scales in a meaningful, systemic manner.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Martin Small will succeed Gary Shedlin as Chief Financial Officer of BlackRock in 2023. Shedlin will take on a new role as Vice Chairman working directly with key strategic clients of the firm. Intercontinental Exchange has named Caterina Caramaschi as Head of a combined portfolio covering ICE's global interest rates and equity derivatives futures and options. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

encryptedTurtle

I’m pretty sure this is false because at least 1k people daily are playing ICE Poker, but I think that number is actually 10k.

BerryMas0n

will anyone ever explain that other than CME and ICE, all other crypto platforms are actually OTC dealers with no clearing, insurance, and most don't have legal compliance for customer funds?

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Karma-Kamillion

He didn't just come up with it out of nowhere, he did however find a good technical implementation. Also bitcoin did have lots of unintended consequences like shifting the focus on electricity prices, power consumption and generation which are all very important, especially when more and more governments ban the sale of new ICE cars while doing nothing to make electricity available or affordable. This wasn't what Satoshi wanted to achieve when creating btc, but it took a life of its own and I think that's one of the reasons why he chose to disappear. In the end he did fail to create an alternative currency to fiat so that people could ditch banks and governments couldn't control their financial transactions.

PsyOmega

Electric cars emit more pollutants than ICE cars. They just do it all at once during manufacturing.

N00bFac3

RVN proposes actual solutions to actual problems. Has very serious people helping build on the chain including real estate tokenization in Australia and the US, a tokenized Bitcoin farm being sold as a security (like shares but on a blockchain). tZERO gaining many patents that the lead dev for RVN wrote and IMO is purpose built to be used on RVN when ICE starts building their exchange and partnership with tZERO.

tomfoolery77

ICE

Emergency_Dragonfly4

crypto being an environmental danger is such BS when we still have ICE cars on the road, rampant airline travel, and massive meat/livestock production

Woodpecker3453

I'm not gonna argue with you because Europe has its own issues. It would be incredibly naive of me to say otherwise. Europe is far from perfect, just like America or East Asia. I'll just say that, in my opinion, brands like Lamborghini, Mercedes, or Bentley are more akin to the old school American manufacturers like Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge, whose founders all died before the 50s. I understand that Tesla, for example, is a new brand, and while it attracts different types of buyers, it can be compared to Mclaren, as they are both very young companies of a similar age. And I do think that while the car industry is changing, it won't necessarily be going away. I think first we will fully transition to EVs (whether they are better than ICE cars or not is another debate), before having fully self-driving cars which will then become pods of transportation, like miniature buses.

free_the_worlds

Coinbase works with ICE and pushed for doubling the block size, and all of them require kyc.

HODL_monk

California has already planned to ban ICE cars, so if you don't like electric, it might just make sense to speak up, or come to Texas, we will never ban gas :)

Kap-One

AGREED! I have been apart of many myself! ICE DAO, TIME, FORTRESS, and the most recent... ARBIC FINANCE! I lost 80K on that one! That stung a little! :)

SiriusTantriqa-405

This ranks right up there with Subaru’s claim some of their ICE models are “pzev or partial zero emission vehicles”, lol. What the hell is a partial zero, anyways? Zero is indivisible for crying out loud.

HelpMeSucceedPlz

Thats some pretty bad math. That's $60,000,000 for one hour plus $500,000. What's your plan, to stiff them all and tell them to get lost or your calling ICE when the coin is never recovered?

ndgoLiberty

I’ve listened to a few bitcoin miners and they say it’s ridiculously unsustainable to go around installing 5 bitcoin miners and a generator at each flaring or leaking well. Their strategy has been to find gas pipelines with excess free capacity and install large multi megawatt immersion cooled sites. If anybody is running around with a trailer of s9s, an ICE generator, and a really long Ethernet cable let me know.

dizietgurgehsma

Which is my point. Everything is political if you want to frame it this way, which means saying that Bitcoin is political is meaningless, because anything can be. Electric cars are by quite a few measures better than ICE ones these days, even if you don't care about the environment at all. Reddit is better than the other social platforms for many people, it's position on free speech doesn't come into it. Bitcoin is better money, the politics of it are not the only reason to be a proponent.

The_Ghostdriver

-Guys is ruthless has no morals. Has kids he doesnt have anything to do with. -Pretends hes saving the world by mining cobalt and lithium that for just one battery pollutes more in carbon footprint than one ICE car does for its entire life. Working conditions in the mines in Africa are basically slavery. He is quoted as saying he would think nothing of instilling a tinpit govt so that he could control the mining market. -He is a Crypto Market manipulator (practically inside trader) and pumps and dumps via tweets but thankfully the discerning know what hes about and dont fall for it now as much. - His biggest flaw is his Ego. What goes around comes around he fucked Twitter around with his big mouth. Now he will learn a lesson as a man who swings a cat by its tail can learn no other way.

guacotaco

ah yes, like the famously left wing CIA, which coups leaders to prop up socialist and communist governments abroad. wait, no, that's not right at all. or the famously left wing FBI who hire weed smoking college liberals. wait, no. you can't work for the FBI if you like weed. or ICE. who gave up raiding businesses and communities up so illegal immigrants can freely walk into the country. wait. damn, no not that either. maybe the department of energy is full of leftists though. I'd bet that's the ticket.

RDMvb6

Please let us know if you are voting with your wallet or with your keyboard? Have you taken out a short position on TSLA? Historically, that has not worked out well for most who have tried it. I'm not a Musk fanboy by any means but the long term outlook for EVs remains really good and they are the industry leader. And the fact is that their cars crash and catch on fire far less frequently than ICE vehicles. The only reason you have even heard of Tesla's catching on fire is because every very rare time that it happens, the short sellers push the story onto their media friends for the express purpose of trying to push the stock down to make a quick buck.

ethereumflow

Anyone here still into Icon? I’m curious to know how things are going with their BTP (Blockchain Transmission Protocol) developments. Any chains aside from ICE been integrated?

Responsible_Fan3072

I heard about Coinbase selling geolocation to ICE. Given that it is a cryptocurrency exchange, why in the world do they even need to access geolocation?

Fragmented_Logik

Given all of coinbases involvement with the US government I doubt they go bankrupt. They just sold some software to the US and with their ICE stuff. CB being in bed with the feds. They'll keep them around.

IceColdPorkSoda

It took hundred of years of technical innovations to get to the first car. And the first car was far from ideal. You could not take a model T and modify it into a Ferrari. You have to make an entirely new car from the ground up to get to a model T even though they share some core commonalities (4 wheels, ICE, steering wheel, etc). Bitcoin may have a role in the future of finance and the economy, but to declare it’s the “be all end all” is just asinine.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase recently agreed to provide U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with access to its blockchain analysis tool. ICE gained access to “multi-hop analysis”, “Lightning network investigation,” “historical geo tracking data” and “transaction demixing and shielded transaction analysis.” ICE has purchased licenses from Chainalysis since 2016. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase recently agreed to provide U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with access to its blockchain analysis tool. ICE gained access to “multi-hop analysis”, “Lightning network investigation,” “historical geo tracking data” and “transaction demixing and shielded transaction analysis.” ICE has purchased licenses from Chainalysis since 2016. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Melting_Harps

>sexy Check out the Blockfi sponsorship... might as well say FTX on it now. It's an odd looking car in real life, nothing like the MK3/4 which were much larger and had a sort of Japanese muscle car look to them. I had a good look at a stock one and wasn't taken by it. Then I saw one with tons of aero mods on it and it started to resemble a Rocketbunny newer AE86 (if you squinted really hard), it's a bit but still looked too generic for the price tag. I think it's clear that the ICE era is over, when platform sharing of these high ticket vehicles across rival non-domestic brands is happening it's just a cost savings marketing ploy, the BRZ/AE86 was a clear indication things were heading this way but this sealed the deal that the ICE cars have peaked: they put 2JZs in these, which is an amazing engine... from the early 90s! I hope this means Lamborghini finally decide to move forward with the Terzo Millenio out of concept/rolling shell and finally put an EV motor in it to rival the Roadster II specs and do a limited production like the Veneno.

Quangholio

Look into ICE Poker and their application of NFTs

just_thisGuy

If you can manage cheap ICE for a few years, Yes, but remember all the maintenance and gas costs make sure they are in your equation. Tesla stock and BTC will be going to the moon, if I was you I’d get BTC and Tesla stock. Stay away from margin accounts.

thefullmcnulty

I don’t agree. Me and all my homies understand ICE and we work on our cars. Not one of my homies understands bitcoin.

Probably_notabot

Haha. And don’t forget ICE apparently

wheelzoffortune

The ICE thing was already proven false.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Crypto exchange Coinbase could be selling user data to the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE), according to documents obtained by watchdog group Tech Inquiry. The data includes "historical geo-tracking data" and "transaction history," according to the documents. However, the company denied that the information provided by the analytics software is the exchange's customer data. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

tonuorak

The fact that Coinbase seemingly sells user data to ICE is a big red flag. If that's public then what else are they doing behind the scenes. There was already the suggestion of insider trading.

BlubberWall

The titles have all been misleading, Coinbase isn’t selling their user data directly, they are licensing a general blockchain analysis tool they developed to ICE.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase has denied allegations that it is selling sensitive user data to the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The ICE is a federal law enforcement agency operating under the Department of Homeland Security. The agency reportedly has the ability to track transactions made through some of the most popular cryptocurrencies, including BTC, ETH, and USD *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

cheaprentalyeti

Why would ICE even bother with the data if they're no longer allowed to arrest people and/or deport them?

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase has denied a report that ICE is using its "historical geo tracking data" to track and identify people based on their crypto transaction history. The report referred to a copy of the August 3, 2021 contract between ICE and Coinbase. "Coinbase does not sell proprietary customer data," the company said. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

thunderousbloodyfart

Yeah coinbase make their money sending ICE your geolocation data.

Justalildwinkypoo

Correct me if I’m wrong, OP. Does Google freely give people’s information to ICE? Astounding take, honestly. wHaTs uP wItH fUd hahahaha

CMTS562

They are in bed the ICE now to make a quick buck so there's that.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase has denied reports alleging that the company is selling its customer information to the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The agency, which works under the Department of Homeland Security, works to investigate finance-related crimes such as terrorist financing and money laundering. According to the exchange, the information they provide to the government comes only from public sources and not from user data. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Belnak

ICE is paying coinbase for their reporting tools. Your average ICE agent can't dump half a dozen different ledgers into a database them label, sort, filter, query, and analyze it. Coinbase Analytics is basically Tableau for blockchain data.

geniy8106

Don't know but want to know things about ICE right now.

crypto_knight1

Sure, you may be correct that they are not directly selling all their data. But they are selling their analytics tools and to some extent some data. Nonetheless to ICE. So are we supposed to be happy about that? What do you think fed agencies do with data? Come on dude don't be so blind.

TheCipherG

So what you’re saying is that ICE paid Coinbase for publicly available node IP information? Why would ICE pay for info that my infant daughter could find online? That’s not what the article is saying…

ZulkarnaenRafif

>In August 2021, Coinbase sold a single analytics software license to ICE for $29,000, followed by a software purchase potentially worth $1.36 million the next month, but details of exactly what capabilities would be offered to the agency’s controversial Homeland Security Investigations division of were unclear. A new contract document obtained by Jack Poulson, director of the watchdog group Tech Inquiry, and shared with The Intercept, shows ICE now has access to a variety of forensic features provided through Coinbase Tracer, the company’s intelligence-gathering tool (formerly known as Coinbase Analytics). >Coinbase Tracer allows clients, in both government and the private sector, to trace transactions through the blockchain, a distributed ledger of transactions integral to cryptocurrency use. While blockchain ledgers are typically public, the enormous volume of data stored therein can make following the money from spender to recipient beyond difficult, if not impossible, without the aid of software tools. Coinbase markets Tracer for use in both corporate compliance and law enforcement investigations, touting its ability to “investigate illicit activities including money laundering and terrorist financing” and “connect [cryptocurrency] addresses to real world entities.” So, it's getting closer to how easy it easy to trace real-world money? I think [this link](https://theintercept.com/2022/06/29/crypto-coinbase-tracer-ice/) is more informative than the Benzinga link provided above. Credit where credit is due, I'm still reading up before making comments about the usual stuff, may or may not include words that privacy enthusiasts (or "everything out there is going to doxx and threaten your safety" nutjobs... though they are few) such as 1984, Big Brother, the Great Reset, water contrail, globalists, etc.

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Coinbase has made a seven-figure deal with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that grants the government agency access to a suite of tools used to track and identify crypto users. The deal began with the sale of a single software license in August 2021 for $29,000 and expanded into a second contract worth $1.36 million the following month. ICE has licensed access to multiple analytical and tracking tools for 12 currencies, including Bitcoin and *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Suspicious_Basil88

It is sold, via the software ICE bought. And they are using geolocation data but couldn’t share how or why. So, not the beacon of trust really.

thisaccountyouguys

Selling data to ICE is a no-no though. Dont use coinbase.

sickvisionz

Not everything is political but right-wingers gladly opting to turn any data they have over to ICE makes all the sense in the world.

ron_leflore

They sell location data to brokers. Brokers combine it with other location data. ICE and every other law enforcement buys location data from brokers.

Cypto_Spaniard

No, there are American and citizens who defend ICE, actually, it is legal, nor that I support it. But it is what it is.

bitsteiner

Does ICE track bank transactions in the same manner? I hear of million money laundering scandals involving our "trusted and respected" banks all the time.

SuccumbedToReddit

Ackchually, global warming will ensure ICE will remain very, very busy

AppropriateIce6287

People don’t like to think Coinbase does anything in their interest Certain Coinbase customer interactions and fees and biz model aspects are frustrating, that’s for sure But the theme that they are evil or Brian Armstrong is working with ICE to deport mass immigrants is ludicrous Even more ludicrous is that commenting on that gets downvotes and removed comments — ie the community at large wants Coinbase to be evil so bad that they’ll do anything to justify it in their mind

chollida1

Let's pump the brakes a bit here. Coinbase isn't selling their customers data. They have alot of blockchain experts, as you might expect, on their staff. They have created a tool that analyzes the data that is publically available on the blockchain and sells that expertise to companies, of who ICE is one. This is something that anyone can do and one of bitcoins highly touted features. They aren't selling any customer data. They aren't doing anything that requires private data. This has nothing to do with coinbase the custodian or market. This is just analyzing the already existing public blockchain data. That's it.

frontrangefart

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/20/ice-arrests-nearly-150-meat-plant-workers-in-latest-immigration-raid-in-ohio/ Dude, you and all the dumbasses downvoting me can keep your head in the sand for as long as you want, but these are the actions that ICE takes. When labor demands better rights, corporations call ICE on themselves and the only people who are punished are the workers and not the corporation itself. It's so fucking disingenuous for you to put words in my mouth. What I linked is what I am complaining about. Not whatever you're on about. And on to your argument, I just don't agree with the ability for corporations to sell data. If they are ordered by warrant to relinquish data, that's different. But the amount of shit Facebook and Google with is abhorrent and it just sounds like you're defending those actions.

Tritador

This is a nothing-burger. What's ICE going to do with my information anyway? I'm a US citizen. Your ISP, your credit card company (how many of you have crypto credit cards?), every online store you've ever touched, your bank, even your employer - every shred of data about you is sold all over the place and very well-known. You are not a private anonymous individual. The only reason nobody knows every detail about your life right this minute is because you are boring and not a criminal so nobody is looking at your information, but all of your information is right there and the very second you're interesting to your government, they'll find you in 3 seconds. And with a few rare exceptions regarding privacy coins, every single thing you do on the blockchain is completely transparent. That's actually the point of the blockchain - to legitimize ownership of crypto by making all transactions completely visible. Of course Coinbase sells your data. So does absolutely everybody who has data about you.

NooTroph

I called them Fedbase before and I called it right. Selling personal geolocation to ICE in the USA is pure evil. No self-respecting privacy project works with coinbase.

scabbymonkey

ICE could take that info and assume your buying crypto in the US with their money then sending crypto to Mexico, they are using this to track and ultimately detain and return potential illegal immigrants.

itsprobablytrue

Bro get off facebook. I dislike a lot of behaviors and actions ICE has taken myself but what you described is so embellished. Corporations giving data at government requests is not unusual. Google even has a website now to show you what they've released. As a business you have the rights to do so within the law. if you have a problem get a law made not just bitch about it in such a weird way. Lastly Crypto is not supposed to be regulated, the argument here is to just have people who potentially have this as a concern (Rich Illegal Immigrants or xpacs as they call themselves everywhere else) to avoid a centralized exchange and largely anyone who wants to avoid KYC rules.

Probably_notabot

I pretty much assume everyone is selling my data anyway, but, ICE?? Seems like serious over reach

AppropriateIce6287

No offense, but I think the general public is naive to data sharing behavior and purposes largely. First, read the fine print. Is Coinbase operating a scheme to catch every day illegal immigrants? No Second, what is actually being shared - how and why. Is Coinbase using its valuable resources to provide custom user data and private info to ICE or a gov agency? No What is most likely happening is that they report materially absurd red flags to help assist in the detention of actual bad guys. Lastly, if you think you need to delete the app off your phone , then I suggest you throw away your entire phone and all connected devices in your home.

Crookiee

Didn’t think anything of it beyond “what else is new” until the last half of the title… to ICE? Is Coinbase the NRA of crypto now? ^/s

frontrangefart

Selling data To ICE; a fascist governmental agency whose sole purpose is to support mega corporate interests and subjugate those with practically nothing to their name.