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AdvisorShares Trust - AdvisorShares MSOS 2x Daily ETF
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Best single trade yet (CRWD leap) and Goog calls. But wait theres more! Weed's being rescheduled bois (in with ~50k) $MSOX
DEA tells House lawmakers marijuana review is ongoing #MSOS #MSOX
MSOX 2x ETF - Long Term Hold (12 mos) Without a Clue. Advice?
Percentage wise, which is better to hold for higher returns? MSOS or MSOX?
WTH is going on with MSOS/MSOX at end of day?
New Amendments To Marijuana Banking Bill Revealed: Major MSOX/OS Traction Imminent
Senate Vote for SAFE Banking Scheduled on 09/27 MSOS MSOX
Seismic Shifts in Weed Sector #MSOX Big Week Ahead
USA Cannabis stocks are about to LIGHT UP - $MSOS (USA Cannabis ETF)🌿🔥 😎
USA Cannabis stocks are about to LIGHT UP - $MSOS (USA Cannabis ETF)🌿🔥 😎
USA Cannabis Sector about to light up: $MO (Altria) + $ CURLF (Curaleaf) + $CRON (Cronos) 3-Way Merger 🌿🔥 😎
MSOX Fails To Deliver - AdvisorShares MSOS 2x Daily ETF
Options Listed for the AdvisorShares MSOS 2x Daily ETF (Ticker: MSOX)
Options Listed for the AdvisorShares MSOS 2x Daily ETF (Ticker: MSOX)
It happened. $MSOX closed lower than $MSOS.
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Got to love Ben Kovler for leading the charge on this and pressuring Advisorshares to shut down MSOX. As per GTI's last earnings call: >I think in the buyback, it is sometimes a little bit tricky to look at. You have got to be a little careful in terms of the size. And so, with our limits in terms of daily liquidity and things like that, trying to see the bigger picture and take a little bit more of a longer term, meaning, even if we buy up to the max in the open market, there could be a chance bigger blocks show up. And there are larger blocks of stock out there that could come available for sale that we would be very interested in buying as a strategic asset for the business in the best interest of shareholders. So, it could be an opportunity to collect $0.75 when playing in one way only gets us a nickel or a dime. Ben has his sights squarely at MSOS/MSOX for his buyback program. I know in the past he has told Dan/Noah to call GTI whenever they wanted to sell GTI and rebalance, that they would rebuy from them directly. But after they brushed him off it looks like he is taking it a step further to try and unwind the funds (at least MSOX) to get bigger chunks of stock to buyback.
What quality ETF are you referring to? If you believe MSOS and MSOX are quality, you are very wrong.
**In layman’s terms please.** How does Dan Ahrens’ MSOS & MSOX ETF today underperform underlying cannabis stocks (including Curaleaf) today? What a joke and dangerous influence this ETF has had on the cannabis industry.
Stay away from ETFs particularly MSOS and MSOX. Only invest 10%-15% of your portfolio in cannabis stocks. Buy individual names of 3-5 companies with exposure to both LPs and MSOs. Invest for longer term and take profits along the way especially when there is a hype or meme run on unsubstantiated news. Do research on SEC filings or SEDAR. Only invest in cannabis companies that are current 280e or excise taxes. Only invest in companies with manageable debt. Be prepared to either lose your entire investment. Understand risk/reward. Don’t gloat or go “scorched earth” depending on your returns. Verify anything you read or hear. **Be patient** - this industry very dependent on politics and social acceptance. Don’t confuse luck with brains. Good luck.
Our golden cross is going to be when MSOX drops below MSOS and then comes back up.
MSOX is up only like half a percent more than MSOS right now...Aren't leveraged ETF's supposed to be up or down like 2X the underlying asset?
These are not typical ETFs. MSOX is a 2x leveraged ETF based on MSOS which itself is largely comprised of total return swaps and not actual stocks. The underlying stocks are stuck on low volume, low liquidity OTC exchanges while the ETFs freely trade on the uplisted exchanges like NYSE and NASDAQ. This creates a situation where the vast majority of the trading volume in this sector goes through these ETFs, and they end up dictating the price of the underlying, not the other way around as is the case with normal ETFs. The total return swaps have fees ranging from 5-9%/yr alongside the typical ETF fees that must get paid regardless of the ETF price performance. This all creates a massive downward drag on the underlying stocks. I would not recommend either ETF for anyone interested in investing in this sector. These ETFs effectively kill any price discovery in the underlying stocks while outright destroying shareholder value through constant decay from swap fees and derivative instruments.
MSOS and MSOX are garbage funds with shotty advisors. Best to stay away. Run from weed in general.
Does it change your opinion when you realize MSOX had a 10:1 reverse split like 6 months ago?
OK so I am looking at MSOS vs MSOX. Is MSOX a deal right now in relation to MSOX? They are both up 3% however MSOX is leveraged x2. In addition MSOX appears to have hit and past the 52wL
Ben on the bird app. "I think I asked the wrong question. The MM demand to MSOX (making the "creates") is only a hedge bc they sold a lot of MSOS to the large buying at the end of the day 6/18. ⚖️ Net net, that means MSOX is a boxed "create" which is very bad for long equities. ☠️ Therefore, winding down MSOX would be good for the industry. Does anyone disagree? 🧐 (It can be good for others while being bad for the industry 🤔)" Boy howdy these folk need a room
You can google it yourselves, but analysts are now looking at a possible -20% drop, and/or full reversion back to April prices on the SP500. Best case would only see a -13% drop back to \~5200 Keep some dry powder ready, nobody would be surprised to see this sector follow along and set new ATL's on every name Also, watch for that future MSO/MSOX reverse split announcement ;) ps .. and just one more sleep until unclegbov goes away 'til the next ACB earning/shilling season!!!!
Thank you buddy, made some bad decisions with Ayr and MSOX and Verano and Cresco warrants. It sucks but life goes on, onward and upward.
MSOS is not "due" to a reverse split either unless the managers deliberately says it will be, and so far they haven't said anything. In regards to MSOX...I don't see the argument for it to be shutdown, but also I don't see the need for it to remain since MSOS has options.
Not a shutdown, but they are both due for a reverse split Both MSOS and MSOX It's the nature of these types of etfs
If $MSOX was going to shut down, how would @AdvisorShares wind it down in the smoothest, least market impactful way? @HammanShares @InvestinginCan1 Reminder, MSOX has only 1 holding: $MSOS, ~$16M notional, $8M AUM, 7M shares of MSOS Monday Mathletics ⬆️ $GTBIF 🇺🇸 https://x.com/Bkov9/status/1934588740279890090?t=0aNzt5VxMLKu30yeYepWxQ&s=19
Misery loves company. SPY is just about tapped out on this run so it won't just be MJ selling off Depending on tomorrow's CPI numbers, we either a) run a couple more points higher on SPY, get up into the 610-613 range & then sell down b) right out of the gate we gap down hard. Might do a couple DCBs over the coming week but we really don't stop dropping till we push back and get that 564.xx gap fill. From there, depends on DJT ?? Either scenario, MSO is down to $1.60-1.80. We might even need to reverse split if it gets too bad. Perhaps a 10-1 on MSO, MSOX would need probably less, maybe 6-1
69 shares of MSOX for the culture before the market closed today. Just because of Cole tomorrow. Might as well have a little fun
MSOX seeks daily investment results that, before fees and expenses, correspond to two times (2x) the daily total return of the AdvisorShares Pure US Cannabis ETF (Ticker: MSOS). Key word her is “seeks”. Search the chat for other technical explanations
$11 MSOX $7 MSOS BUT I also have 1800 shares of MSOX in another account at $46 haha
Only way most of us baggies get out alive is if/when retail breaks MSOS/MSOX to the upside on a massive descheduling announcement. Other than that, even break even is a pipe dream....no pun lol
My averages are so fucked , TRUL at $23, AYR at $4.50 and VRNO at $5.. RIP my portfolio.. not to forget MSOX 90% down from the pre-split.
How many new baggies in MSOX today? Hitting 1M volume is impressive
You also shouldn't hold the ETF long-term since it decays. And if I'm not mistaken MSOX daily trading volume is capped at 90% to limit downside risk of going to zero, which also limits the upside. All in all, I honestly don't get the point of leveraged ETFs at all when the regular ETFs already have options.
I’m buying MSOX next week anywhere between 3.40 and $5. Predictions are conversation though so I shouldn’t shit on them so hard. Buying MSOS nest week as well
We’ve had 34% percent rise in MSOX the last week but I’m still-96% in one of my accounts.
A post from Budshawz on here about a year ago that I hope becomes relevant next week. "Just an FYI for those investing in MSOX as this is the first time i bothered to read the prospectus (and lets be honest none of you did either): A Cautionary Note to Investors Regarding Dramatic US Cannabis ETF Movement. The Fund could lose an amount greater than its net assets in the event of a movement of the US Cannabis ETF in excess of 50% in a direction adverse to the Fund (meaning a decline in the value of the US Cannabis ETF). The Advisor will attempt to position the Fund’s portfolio to ensure that the Fund does not gain or lose more than 90% of its NAV on a given day. If the Advisor successfully positions the Fund’s portfolio to provide such limits, the Fund’s portfolio and NAV will not be responsive to movements in the US Cannabis ETF beyond 50% in a given day, whether that movement is favorable or adverse to the Fund. For example, if the US Cannabis ETF were to gain 50%, the Fund would be limited to a daily gain of 90%, which corresponds to 200% of a US Cannabis ETF gain of 45%, rather than 100%, which is 200% of a US Cannabis ETF gain of 50%. It may not be possible to limit the Fund’s losses, and shareholders should not expect such protection. The risk of total loss exists. TLDR: MSOX can only go up 90% in a day.
MSOX nav is currently sitting at $2.68 while MSOS nav is $2.20. MSOX is supposed to be a 2× leveraged ETF of MSOS, but at the current valuation it's not even ×1.5. Will they do *another* reverse split? Because if they have to, might as well close it because we will be seeing further dumps next week and the slowly bleeding next few weeks as we will have no significant developments for cannabis.
MSOX has been my worst performer..what a disaster.
Unless you wanna potentially lose the other $20k it might be sell at open time. That's why I'm a paper handed bitch 😐 But I got to buy leveraged MSOX for dirt cheap today at a 52 wk low!
I’d load up on Green Thumb. Maybe some MSOS and MSOX if you got the big balls 😝 it’d be locked and loaded by market open Monday the 17th. After the budget passes, the congress will move on to basic legislation issues. And it’s quite possible some positive news will happen, such as Safer Banking and being discussed with the new Crypto debanking bill. I’m betting that schedule 3 from the Attorney General will be announced within 3 months That should really give the stocks a boast. CGC is the stock that got the biggest jump on news that past years. Horrible company, but who cares if it’s just a short term investment. 🚀 🚀
I’m sorry for anyone who kept adding to $MSOX since the election—it’s truly a black hole that drains your hard-earned, post-tax money, never to be seen again.
New scuffle on X started this morning by GTI CEO Ben Kovler: > Is it true that $MSOS has had zero redemptions since the election? 🤷🏽♂️ > And bonus, $MSOX has only had inflows? 🤔 > Stocks in the sector are down 30-80%; > $MSOS down 60%; > $MSOX down 90%. > Who is the fish at the table? 🐠 > @InvestinginCan1 @HammanShares > $GTBIF 🇺🇸 https://x.com/Bkov9/status/1897288940899512591
MSOX shouldn't even exist in a sector with so little liquidity, so I see that as a plus. The problem is how low MSOS would get to if that were to happen.
Look at the volume selling and price on MSOX these days. If I had to guess they are going to have to liquidate and close up that fund soon. It's the fate of a lot of leveraged funds in such narrow investment sectors That'll be the BIG hit that really sells off the sector and finally marks real capitulation. Until then, well we bleed ..
I hate to say it but easiest and best for WSB style pump would be on MSOX or msos. Because that’s listed on a proper exchange
OMG. Look at MSOX after hours on robinhood.
I'm glad I'm on r/smallstreetbets I did the leveraged MSOX x2 and went from $45 to $8 lmao.
Yeah. The balance sheet is so concerning to me. I invest in the larger names for less risk and Curaleaf isnt it. If I want risk/a short term trade, I can use MSOX, AYR, Cannabist, Jushi, etc.
Robinhood MSOX after hours. It’s rocking again up 5 percent
MSOX back listed back in/to overnight trading. Something is coming!
Very lucky. jk, good job bro. I have loaded MSOX and sold ALL shares short. Will be looking good tomorrow
I still remember the end of august 2023. I was holding MSOX and Trulieve. Suddenly there was some news and weed stocks just flew unexpectedly. I’m waiting for that again.
lol people have been saying this for years as it keeps making new lows year after year. If you have fomo I would just buy a weed etf like $MSOS to get some diversity but I wouldn’t buy individual names. You can also lever with $MSOX. They both have performed like shit.
Well, first is that MSOX is leveraged and must be a very short term hold otherwise you’re faced with naturally diminishing value. The sector is already risky AS HELL, so there’s no need for leverage here, unless you want to lose money faster? MSOS holds some really shitty companies that could be on the verge of bankruptcy. The least risky companies appear to be GTI and Trulieve. The former being profitable and well run business, and the latter may get preferential treatment from Donnie 2 Scoops because they’re primarily based out of Florida. If Europe gets it’s shit together, Curaleaf could actually crawl out of the gutter, but… yikes. Don’t hold your breath around here. Weed bad, mmmk? The devil’s lettuce continues to be an extremely dangerous drug. Much worse than fentanyl. 🙄
MSOS is the etf, so probably safer than any 1 stock If you really want to gamble, there’s MSOX, the 2x leveraged ETF of MSOS
Is that MSOX at $58? After the reverse split
I feel your pain! I averaged down until I couldn’t anymore and now -75%. My worst mistake a couple months back was selling off all my non weed stocks and putting it all in MSOX at $3.40 hoping to catch the next bounce and get out of this sector. ☠️
Still owning TRUL at $40, VRNO at $13, AYR at $4.50, MSOX at $2.90..RIP portfolio.
He is the last person who should be on a high horse shitting on other investments MSOS is -45 ytd MSOX is -88% ytd While charging investors fees!!!! He should stfu and get off twitter and reduce fees. Pathetic to see this from a public figure. This sector is such amateur hour when we see nonsense like this
I’m buying MSOX instead Yup the +5% will be awesome after we drop another 20%
MSOX is grift and Ben Kovler is hubris. The fact that a CEO posts such cryptic messages and the MSOS ETF can’t clearly explain in layman’s terms what they’re doing should give anyone pause. We are talking about adult males handling millions of dollars. However, still glad that a CEO is calling out the BS of Advisor Shares. No way that MSOS is worthy of the fees/expenses they are collecting. Both men need to step it up and act like professionals.
It’s like watching Syria fight Iran. I don’t care and have little respect for either side. The sooner Ben Kovler is replaced - the better. The sooner MSOS & MSOX disappears - even better.
One of my biggest mistakes was buying MSOX the day after the AP article broke about S3. I really did not expect that to be a sell the news event. Held it until last week and sold it at around 12.10. Lost about 3K. Brutal
One of my few smart moves was to get out of MSOX the day before the election. My gawd what a shit show.
Every single person/entity that owns MSOS and MSOX is a bagholder.
And then, there's MSOX to make it even worse.
Time to load up on MSOX and bag hold until legalization. Underlying companies making profits while we are hitting all time lows. Short squeeze incoming
MSOS/MSOX with the 45 degree angle down all day with the mid day spike is comical
Meanwhile I'm holding on to $MSOX for dear life hoping it'll go up one day.
All in MSOS shares and 2x levered MSOX calls.
Funny, because MSOS/MSOX were in the top performing ETFs at the beginning of the year 😂
Among ALL existing ETFs, $MSOX currently ranked #5 as one of the worst-performing, and heading toward a spot in the top 3 by year-end source: etfdb.com
Just realized MSOX ATH is like $600+ lolol what a joke this industry is
I am not venting about LPs MSOX just reverse split 20:1, MSOS was down on Friday while everything else was ripping. I am not venting. The rest of my assets are ripping and my weed holdings account for a small % of my net worth now. I'm calling it as it is. People don't like it. They like to live in a pump bubble. I don't have to be productive here. Why would I be? This is the weed sector, where no one is productive, especially not the over paid upper management, why should I be? If what I post hurts your feelings you are more than welcome to block my account. I have over 100 people from this subreddit blocked. Makes for a much better surfing experience. Hearing is in 13 minutes. Will see who is right and who is wrong.
MSOX - schedule 3 hearing on cannabis this week in Washington. Could spark rally in the ETF MSOS.
I think its the timing of the MSOX reverse split that gets me the most. Seriously, fuck those guys
MSOX is rocket ready for a crazy liftoff. 147750 volume moved the stock by $0.25!
Nah, I won’t be jumping in but thanks much for the explanation. Btw, isn’t Green Thumb already traded on the US exchange? I’m not too familiar with individual companies. I’ve only bet on the entire industry through MSOS and MSOX. Of course, that hasn’t worked out so well.
Anyone know when options will be available for the new MSOX? How long does it usually take after a split/reverse split?
52 week high for MSOX!!!!!! BOOOM!!! Made you look!!! lol
When I saw MSOX go from 60 cents to $13 I nearly pooped myself... but it's a reverse split 
$MSOX was trading right under a dollar earlier this week and now its at $13.28. The charts are now changed showing it being traded around $13 historically when i know it was well under $5. Also Fidelity is not showing that my positions are currently unavailable. I doubt its a true 1,300% jump so whats going on?
Well he's not the AG, technically he's not even a politician right now. If I'm going to waste my money it's going to be buying more MSOX.
Tf happened to MSOX? Reverse split?
13.50+12.87 (+2,042.54%) We did it! MSOX finally mooned
Who's all ready for the 20:1 MSOX reverse split tomorrow? Premarket. I'm hoping this is a silly reason to start a rally. Seen a few reverse splits spark some positive movement. Hoping we get lucky with it. Fingers crossed gang.
Bought a $20 weed cart from my local dispensary, MSOX calls baby it’s going to $50
Thanks for your insights. I have the stomach to take a 100% loss on anything that I’ve staked. It’s happened a few times already, since I began in ~2017. The real hurt is the opportunity cost that I’ll never recover, had I invested almost literally anywhere else. That one stings. I somehow managed to nail really close to all the bottoms I picked up after the US election, but I gotta say… I’m seriously questioning would I have done the same knowing what’s transpired even in the short few weeks since (looking at you, MSOX).
A reverse split on MSOX, which is leveraged. Call me when they wanna reverse split the flagship fund MSOS.
MSOX to do a 20:1 reverse split on Monday. Thats your news
Only people left selling are Doug Kass and APs who inflowed into MSOX the past month.
I closed my cresco and MSOX positions in the few days after the election. It's been a roller coaster of regret and validation. The only thing that has me slightly on the validation side of the fence is that the prices are lower now than when I sold. The Gates news really had me upset that I made the wrong decision. Then it kept drilling and I felt better. I would hold on to them at this point. The stress of selling after 5 years was pretty rough. It was like giving up on a child
Shifted the MSOX exposure I bought shortly after the Gaetz news to GTBIF. Still really surprised there was no follow through on that, but that’s what happens when you let your emotions run you. Could easily see things turn around now, but I couldn’t stomach the risk of things continue to drop. Tough 20% lesson. Essentially wiped the money I saved selling election night. Feeling hopeful on Gaetz getting confirmed though. Hoping there are finally some wins in our future!
Just a reminder that the talking heads in this space are often not even invested in the equities they talk about. For example, Anthony Varrell from The Dales Report. They have Dan Ahrens, MSOS ETF fund manager, on as a weekly recurring guest. They wear their advisorshares MSOS and MSOX swag shirts. Yet, as recently as Nov 19th Anthony said: > I’m not a buyer in $MSOS moving forward so can care less what “retail will be left to drive price”. Cannabis is now a stock pickers game. Not saying they have to be investors in the stuff they talk about, but it's clearly a case of "actions speak louder than words."
Bought another 10,000 MSOX Moon or bust
I cry in MSOX, can this actually delist?
MSOX back down at $0.77 Wow do I ever feel bad for the people that bought and held that "stock"
These guys were loading up on MSOX last time I listened in. Brutal.
MSOX 1:20 split is effective Nov 26th
Easy money flip of that small bag of $MSOX I bought at $0.75 during the panic selling after hours on Friday. Just sold and put it into more cresco shares lol
I was told there would be dips to buy today So far small fill at 82 cents MSOX Was hoping for mid to low 70s
-15% MSOX is my prediction
Major dip today following the negative sentiment of MSOX reverse splitting. I don't expect any big news today as well.
Are we going to see major MSOS/MSOX action today? Predictions?
MSOX closing would actually be a net positive for the sector, I honestly don't even see the reason why it exists. But no, it won't go under, it's doing a reverse split just so it doesn't get delisted.
Anybody think MSOX might go under? It would be a shame so close to some real news.