NSA

Iamnotarobot82

There is a lizard appearing in the corner of my ceiling, not moving for since yesterday. Highly suspect that it's NSA surveillance bot.

Ridged_ChiPSS

If 🥭 really is getting blackmailed by Putin then the CIA, FBI and NSA all need to be disbanded because they are completely useless

oracle989

Besides letting the NSA decrypt and read everyone's sexts and Xi read Trump's emails, it has a lot of really promising applications in chemistry and materials science. Molecular dynamics and electron band structure simulations are impractically expensive for systems larger than a few hundred or thousand atoms and timescales longer than nanoseconds. There's already been some exciting demonstrations of quantum computers solving that sort of problem in practical timescales, so it stands to reason there's a lot of very valuable applications we'll begin to see in drug discovery, electronic and photonic materials, and some niche military stuff like the nuclear weapons simulations that are behind the supercomputer arms race.

AllCapNoBrake

I just use Proton...but none of them are free of NSA/CIA backdoor access.

TiredElephant_c

Can someone who works for the NSA do something spying and find me some insider information. Thanks

Iamnotarobot82

NSA here, just want to say hi and keep it real. Ciao.

jboggin

It does have bipartisan support, but it's not 50/50. Palantir has been propped up more by Republicans than Democrats. Also, "privatized model of the NSA" in both an accurate and horrifying description of what Palantir is.

Worried_Quarter469

NSA is on their board, might happen

Catch_ME

The government would never allow loans without some level of control. Access to data for the NSA and getting exclusive access to processing capacity for the DoD.  The government can nationalize them anytime, so they don't need equity. OpenAI will be a national security asset. I don't know if this is a good or bad. 

byronicbluez

PLTR is easy money if you have no ethics. They are essentially getting a hold of all NSA data. They are already incorporated to every single DoD agency. If they lose that means the US moved away from being a Military Industry Complex.

ashe141

Lol then you should be working at the NSA bro and not slumming it here.

quincytugboat

You could make the same argument about the United States NSA organization but ummm Edward Snowden got exiled for that. Palantir ain’t the first organization to spy on citizens. Facebook, Amazon, Apple, etc. have been doing it for years. Same ethical problem with those if not more than with Palantir to be honest.

Feltzinclasp5

Palantir is very much the privatized model of the NSA which operated under both Democrat and GOP presidents. Saying national surveillance and data collection isn't a bipartisan effort is just not true

hiphopanonomos

The NSA did not create bitcoin. Repeating this comment will cost you -500 palantir points. You have been warned

Accomplished_Rip_362

My understanding as far as cryptography goes is that very large amounts of data encrypted with pre-quantum cryptography has already been captured and recorded. They may not be able to decrypt post-quantum cryptography but they will be able to mine that previously captured data. Now, the question is, is that worth anything ? Probably worth something to the NSA but commercially it's totally useless.

notapersonaltrainer

If there's a true quantum breakthrough these companies will basically be de facto owned by the NSA.

superteed

Back in my day we just built quantum computers out of PS3s at the NSA.

ThinkingOfTheOldDays

My understanding is that the white paper cores esoteric NSA research papers whose access would not be widespread. I'm open to it not being CIA, or some other intelligence group.

Icy_Bookkeeper_208

Maybe the Market shrugged off AWS today. Snow is a helluva drug after all. But I'm starting to think thia was no glitch and expect more based on China's report that it thwarted NSA cyberattack. AWS might have been the initial strike or counterstrike in what could be a new level in the cyber war we know goes on constantly.  https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/china-says-it-has-foiled-a-series-u-s-cyberattacks-on-its-critical-infrastructure-ministry-of-state-security-says-it-has-irrefutable-evidence-nsa-tried-to-cause-international-time-chaos

luv2block

They know, but they've been told not to publish / report on it. The media is not on your side, their job is to curate the news and leave you with a specific impression of the world you are living in (they don't see their job as catching the bad guys). This was beyond obvious with Edward Snowden... the minute he was packed away in Russia, the media ceased to cover the NSA. We have no idea what the NSA is currently up to, but you better believe it's probably tied to AI and it's probably evil as shit. Same thing with Julian Assange. Minute he was (unjustly) tossed in jail and had no voice, the media stopped covering him. The media is not your friend. The minute you think they are, is the minute you're in danger of losing a lot of money on your trades.

PapaVolatility

Ruh roh, China making claims that the NSA attacked NTSC ( crit infra ). Me thinks China is done being quiet.

KeyHelicopter2764

All right just got back from the future children. Here’s what’s gonna happen. Amazon reports earnings right for Halloween. They’re gonna be like they have been doing, but as if that wasn’t enough right at that time is when American president and Chinese president are to meet they’re gonna do the hokey. Pokey become best pals and say that the tariffs are gonna be a thing of the past and free trade shall resume and then in combination the price of Amazon is gonna go to 350. Don’t want the NSA looking for me so you didn’t hear this for me.

Firecracker048

I mean, for the US it makes sense when you realize china has a backdoor into everything produced in their country. Rumors from 2+ years ago is the NSA discovered backdoors into all Huawei routers and switches, which sent Iran and china both spiraling for security updates to their firmware.

Bettet

Where is the revenue coming from ? What exactly ? NSA have said they are not interested in quantum for breaking cryptography, they just want to know when the tech is here so they can prepare. 

Trying_2BNice

>I really wish we had a president who’s biggest “controversy” was “where were you born??” and “you eat WHAT on your hotdogs!?” The NSA reveal? Drone strikes? Just because you don't pay attention doesn't mean Obama didn't have major controversies under his term.

fjortisar

>G42 Cool, a company with a Chinese CEO that worked for DarkMatter which hired former CIA/NSA/IDF to spy on US citizens

rblackcloud09

China used PQC to hack 9 US Telecoms and US gov in October-2024 and again earlier this month. Due to the most recent gov hack, Trump’s EO accelerates CISA-approved list of NSA CSfC symmetric encryption via RFC 8784 for classified VPN’s, now due Dec 1, 2025.  Arqit is one of three commercial solutions (the  other two use Arqit or Palo Alto components) that fully implements RFC 8784, and the only one that is cloud-deployed and immediately available through Master Government Aggregator Carahsoft without waiting for RFP’s and is poised to earn an DIANA innovation badge for NATO adoption Q1 2026. Above resistance, Arqit is quantum-safe.  Recent DoD contract and pending Innovation Badge award for NATO adoption, Arqit is on track to become a standard layer of quantum-safe encryption across the globe.  Quantum-resistant encryption is expected to be broken and require continuous updating.  Quantum Key Distribution is susceptible to denial-of-service and guarantees only key security and not subsequent data transmission.  Arqit may be as good as it gets.

nobertan

Google, since last I checked they have monetized access to their Q-bits already. So consider ask the infrastructure needed to execute that, they’re taking it very seriously. They’re also really good buddies with DARPA for funding historically, and it’s no different for this. The NSA have been gushing over quantum computing for decades. ***Sidebar Anecdote***: I was talking to folks in my network (*mostly semiconductor / materials science*) the Google and Microsoft labs about getting a gig there (materials research engineer). **Microsoft**: have built a show and tell lab to tour senators round for funding **Google**: are driving forward with extreme competence **it’s VERY rare for a software co to properly run a materials research lab*** Microsoft have just been buying Honeywell Q-bits for actual demo’s, I’m told. There’s IBM, who’ll discover something and ride that patent to death. Final consideration, for all those hobbyist quantum companies. ***running a material science cleanroom research facility is a huge money sink*** , given quantum is nowhere near a real product, companies in the quantum game that can’t rely on welfare funding from a patent co have zero chance of surviving until it finally takes off (it’s ALWAYS ten years away, like cold fusion).

Berto_

Flagged. See you soon. -NSA

StudentFar3340

You could say the same of private hyperscalers, blowing tens of billions, sending cash to Nvidia without knowing the benefit of AI....nah, you're right. Not gonna happen. Well as far as sovereign AI, the EU already doing it (and yeah, France isn't going to Share with Germany, so both countries are going to spend tens of billions on their own, the UK is doing it. Even within our own government, major agencies aren't sharing, as the Pentagon and the NSA have separate contracts with Nvidia

jnas_19

Australian CPI yoy NSA actual 3% (forecast 2.9%, previous 2.8%) This was the highest inflation reading since July 2024, driven primarily by rising housing costs. Housing inflation rose to 4.5% from 3.6% in July, marking a 14-month high

Advanced-Cause5971

The first problem with QC is TAM, which is tiny. Scammy CEOs from IONQ and QBTS will deliberately insinuate that the quantum computing is the next thing for the current datacentres. QC doesn't do general compute, e.g. it cannot load a word document and make changes to it. It cannot calculate computer graphics, it cannot do much at all. It can in theory run some very specific algorithms at a much higher speed (none of the current machines are even close to running anything). So you can imagine immediately that this is not replacing Intel CPUs or anything. If you had some quantum machines you could sell a few of them to NSA and others for cracking current asymmetric encryption algorithms. So total revenue for the whole industry would be in single digit billions at most. The encryption thing would be patched pretty quickly by software updates to use lattice based crypto that is QC resistant. Anyway first you have a tiny TAM, then that TAM gets split into a bunch of hopefuls. You've got MSFT, IBM, GOOGLE, then you've got a bunch of smaller PRIVATE companies, and then you've got these publicly traded ones QBTS, QUBT, RGTI, IONQ. As you can see, now you are investing in fewer than half of the quantum players in hopes of one of those "winning" and taking most of a very small TAM, beating out players like google and msft. Also nearly every company uses a different approach with different quantum gate type, so there's not gonna be "fast follow" from secondary players if one of these has a breakthrough. So already you cannot justify multibillion dollar evaluations. Then you have to consider that it's at least 5 years before anyone has anything approaching a quantum computer that can run real apps. You'd need at least a 1000x in qubits and at least 1000000x drop in error rate. Qbits randomly flipping during program runtime = failure. Then you have to consider each player: \- RGTI is pretty honest, CEO tells you straight up they don't have anything for the next 7 years and to not expect any revenue. They are way behind the private players and labs at IBM and Googl. Somehow worth 10B. \- IONQ has a scumbag CEO who constantly lies about what they will deliver and what they will do. He namedrops Nvidia like 50x in 15 minutes each time he's on a stage. He said that they will overtake Nvidia 2027 (how is he allowed to say shit like that?) which is laughable. The actual business is that they burn money, but with stock price pumping they keep diluting and doing acquisitions. Gonna have tons of goodwill on balance sheet end of the year. Those acquisitions add revenue (even though small compared to the price paid), so they can claim rev growth 50% YoY or whatever. Retards lap it up, firm dilutes again, acquires another quantum satelite company for 1B or whatever. Rinse and repeat. \- QBTS doesn't have a classical QC but just a quantum annealer, supposedly for optimization problems. The scam is that they sell "hybrid" systems: QC with a normal computer attached to their shit. They have been selling for years, so not a future play, yet no real revenue. It is not possible to determine how much of work classical computer part of the system does and how much quantum does. It doesn't demonstrate any real speedup and former employees allege it's all just for show. \- QUBT: Literally a company with quantum in the name, now worth like 6B. Had 30k revenue last year. SEC doesn't do shit. I could go on, but this whole thing will go like this: at some point someone will make a functional quantum computer, it's not going to be one of these companies and it's going to be 10 years in the future. The super dumb thing about this space is that whenever one of the firms releases some positive PR, they all pump, like they are not competing with each other. Imagine AMD pumped when NVDA released a PR that they have a new breakthrough.

TimeGrownOld

No. The only good use case for quantum computing is breaking asymmetric encryption based on np-problems. The people interested in this ability will have a QC for it years before the market does, and again, there's no commercial value. Especially with NSA pushing for PostQuantum Crypto algorithms (resistant to Qac)

Xijit

Oracle is trading access to their global servers and direct interaction with their clients in the DOD and NSA, in return OpenAI pledging that they will send $300 billion in business to Oracle ... How that business is going to be generated is by OpenAI allowing Oracle to subcontract out OpenAI's services for military applications, which OpenAI can't do with their "philothranthic (wink, wink, nugde, nudge)" nonprofit structure. OpenAI gets a shit ton of no cost server resources and preferential treatment from the US government, while Oracle gets to sell OpenAI LLM's & pocket all the cash.

StopthatJC

Tomorrow we will have economic data, enough to see this in a reversal and validate the hammer candle. The ORCL earnings wasn't good, but guidance saved them. PLTR today was denied a contract with NSA after denying the clause of not using the data collected to spy on people.

kangarupoo

Something learn. Communist country alway overstate power. See Russia v Ukraine. Western nation understate. War China no ground..air sea battles. America wipe mat. Conventional war america. can no one touch. NSA black country out. Then us press buttons. Source..friend area 51 works..all say trust me bro.

OddAnalysis2207

Do y'all think the CIA and FBI and NSA monitor this chat group?

joepierson123

The Magellan fund I would put Peter Lynch up against Warren Buffett, he's the real deal. The Medallion fund yeah that's very suspicious. Jim Simon was this ex CIA/NSA math guy who couldn't make any money in the market then he had his meeting with this Columbia guy in a trip in Columbia who gifted him $100,000 to invest in a Bermuda trust (Lord Jim Trust) turned to like 10 billion magically, then hired Russian folks to manage The Medallion fund. , somehow making 60%+ a year I think average. So somehow he to learn how to trade or he's laundering Colombian drug and Russian oligarch money . I have no idea because all his investments are secret and hidden. He did fined many billions for tax evasion.

Permaboolish

Meta mooning because Zuck is “having dinner” with Donnie. Incoming government contracts and incoming giving your WhatsApp and instagram data to the NSA, CIA and FBI😍😍😍

EvolvingDior

NatSec is my guess. Direct feed from Chrome address/search bar to NSA.

bajazona

It’s likely a defense contractor building some AI shit for NSA/CIA

kostac600

Trump can always buoy it with a buy and then formally attach it the NSA to better spy on us citizens and denizens.

foo-bar-nlogn-100

NSA decoded a message from Melania Trump to her mom. The text was : I'm finally free. What does it mean.

miketdavis

My first thought was NSA or Palantir.

NVDAismygod

Your Reddit account is worth $50,000 to the NSA. Palantir will sell it to them

NVDAismygod

EZ money. Here Karp sell my Reddit data to the NSA and they will pay you 500 million in crypto so it’s untraceable and everyone wins

fluffy_scoops

Should trannies be under NSA surveillance?

MarginCalled_inMars

NSA joins chat

AContrarianDick

That shit has been happening for decades. NSA included backdoors in Cisco and Linksys network gear for almost two decades.

Nice_Guy_AMA

Seriously. Did no one even skim the Snowden files? At the time, my company was paying RSA for tokens for dual authentication. At the same time, the NSA was paying RSA for a workaround to access our systems anyway.

Kowlz1

NSA doesn’t have anything to do with federal criminal prosecutions. However, Bill Barr (who was the AG at the time) has all kinds of interesting Epstein connections.

stjohns_jester

Epstein? Trump's best friend and trump was also president and in charge when his "suicide" occurred and did not order any investigation or anything? Bill Barr's, Attorney General at the time, father gave epstein his first job and the introduction into elite upper circles, that Epstein? Yes, Bolton was NSA then. While interesting, doesn't the most fucking obvious thing make sense here.

Particular_Squash995

Bolton was the NSA when Epstein “died” by suicide.

luv2block

Here's the problem... EVERYONE in any proximity to Washington and with any power is corrupt to some extent. So Trump can literally point at anyone and tell his people "go find dirt on them" and they will be able to (especially with IRS, NSA, FBI resources at their disposal). That's the real reason so few people (even with the Dems) are speaking up against Trump. They know he can find the dirt and expose them.

Boheed

maybe supporting the entire US economy on a small segment of tech companies that increasingly create only depraved shit like a robot that reports your fetishes to the NSA ... maybe that's not a great idea

NVDAismygod

Just remember every data center has an additional room that just duplicates every piece of information that flows through the center. All of your calls, texts, search history, tax records, emails, Spotify playlists, payments, SSNs are all duplicated and then used by the NSA/FBI/CIA to track threats

Uselesserinformation

You mean NSA, they're listening. Not federal drug admin

salmon-is-beautiful

Came across this thread while studying more about STM. Very nice to have opinions from engineers and distributers. Thanks! I want to add some research I gathered on STM from an angle less discussed: Post-quantum cryptography (PQC) and the migration plan to using PQC software and hardware: The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) finalized the first PQC standards - ML-KEM (FIPS 203) and ML-DSA (FIPS 204) - in August 2024. The NSA anchored the U.S. migration in CNSA 2.0 (the PQC playbook for National Security Systems), reinforced by NSM-10 and OMB M-23-02. Under CNSA 2.0, any NSS equipment that can’t support CNSA 2.0 must be phased out by December 31, 2030, and CNSA 2.0 algorithms are mandated by December 31, 2031. NSM-10 and OMB M-23-02 extend planning and migration across civilian systems toward 2035. In practice: chips used in federal/NSS systems need PQC support this decade - specifically ML-KEM (FIPS 203) and ML-DSA (FIPS 204) - and suppliers that can prove those algorithms now are better positioned for U.S. government demand (with knock-on commercial pull). To achieve compliance, modules typically go through validation in two steps: 1. NIST's Cryptographic Algorithm Validation Program (CAVP), for FIPS 203/204 algorithms. 2. NIST's Cryptographic Module Validation Program (CMVP), for FIPS 140-3, which can include the validated algorithms. As of now, STM is the only MCU vendor with a vendor-labeled NIST CAVP validation explicitly covering ML-KEM and ML-DSA for an MCU library - validated July 8, 2025 (Validation A7125) for the STM32 PQC library on Cortex-M33. Outside the MCU space, some hyperscalers are pursuing (and in some cases obtaining) these validations: Apple, Amazon, Google, and more. Yet, we also hear peers projecting hardware lifetimes that don’t match the migration tempo. Meta just lengthened its server depreciation schedules (cutting 2025 depreciation by about $2.9B). While investors debate whether AI accelerators truly have 5.5-year useful lives when leading-edge compute turns over in 2–3 years, many overlook the PQC roadmap: these systems will be effectively out-of-policy (and thus completely irrelevant) by 2031 - not due to demand or performance, but by the NSA. Back to MCUs - here’s where key competitors stand on PQC (algorithm-level) validations: 1. NXP Semiconductors: NXP scientists co-authored CRYSTALS-Kyber (now ML-KEM), but there’s no NXP-vendor-labeled ML-KEM/ML-DSA CAVP validation listed. In other words, no PQC certification. 2. Infineon Technologies: Visibly active in quantum/security (e.g., Quantinuum collaboration), but again, no PQC certification. 3. Renesas Electronics: No PQC certification; they collaborate with wolfSSL, whose module has relevant certifications. 4. Microchip Technology: No PQC certification. 5. Texas Instruments: No PQC certification. 6. onsemi (ON Semiconductor): No PQC certification. Bottom line: STM’s named, vendor-labeled CAVP validation (A7125) for ML-KEM + ML-DSA on STM32/Cortex-M33 lands exactly as U.S. policy pushes PQC-capable gear into government systems by 2030–2031, with broader migration working toward 2035. That’s a competitive advantage in the MCU space worth highlighting, and I don't see almost anyone talking about it. And yes, similar PQC roadmaps are emerging globally: the EU published a coordinated PQC implementation roadmap in June 2025, and Canada set milestones to finish high-priority migrations by 2031 and all remaining systems by 2035. China is also pursuing a PQC migration plan.

salmon-is-beautiful

Came across this thread while studying more about STM. Very nice to have opinions from engineers and distributers. Thanks! I want to add some research I gathered on STM from an angle less discussed: Post-quantum cryptography (PQC) and the migration plan to using PQC software and hardware: The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) finalized the first PQC standards - ML-KEM (FIPS 203) and ML-DSA (FIPS 204) - in August 2024. The NSA anchored the U.S. migration in CNSA 2.0 (the PQC playbook for National Security Systems), reinforced by NSM-10 and OMB M-23-02. Under CNSA 2.0, any NSS equipment that can’t support CNSA 2.0 must be phased out by December 31, 2030, and CNSA 2.0 algorithms are mandated by December 31, 2031. NSM-10 and OMB M-23-02 extend planning and migration across civilian systems toward 2035. In practice: chips used in federal/NSS systems need PQC support this decade - specifically ML-KEM (FIPS 203) and ML-DSA (FIPS 204) - and suppliers that can prove those algorithms now are better positioned for U.S. government demand (with knock-on commercial pull). To achieve compliance, modules typically go through validation in two steps: 1. NIST's Cryptographic Algorithm Validation Program (CAVP), for FIPS 203/204 algorithms. 2. NIST's Cryptographic Module Validation Program (CMVP), for FIPS 140-3, which can include the validated algorithms. As of now, STM is the only MCU vendor with a vendor-labeled NIST CAVP validation explicitly covering ML-KEM and ML-DSA for an MCU library - validated July 8, 2025 (Validation A7125) for the STM32 PQC library on Cortex-M33. Outside the MCU space, some hyperscalers are pursuing (and in some cases obtaining) these validations: Apple, Amazon, Google, and more. Yet, we also hear peers projecting hardware lifetimes that don’t match the migration tempo. Meta just lengthened its server depreciation schedules (cutting 2025 depreciation by about $2.9B). While investors debate whether AI accelerators truly have 5.5-year useful lives when leading-edge compute turns over in 2–3 years, many overlook the PQC roadmap: these systems will be effectively out-of-policy (and thus completely irrelevant) by 2031 - not due to demand or performance, but by the NSA. Back to MCUs - here’s where key competitors stand on PQC (algorithm-level) validations: 1. NXP Semiconductors: NXP scientists co-authored CRYSTALS-Kyber (now ML-KEM), but there’s no NXP-vendor-labeled ML-KEM/ML-DSA CAVP validation listed. In other words, no PQC certification. 2. Infineon Technologies: Visibly active in quantum/security (e.g., Quantinuum collaboration), but again, no PQC certification. 3. Renesas Electronics: No PQC certification; they collaborate with wolfSSL, whose module has relevant certifications. 4. Microchip Technology: No PQC certification. 5. Texas Instruments: No PQC certification. 6. onsemi (ON Semiconductor): No PQC certification. Bottom line: STM’s named, vendor-labeled CAVP validation (A7125) for ML-KEM + ML-DSA on STM32/Cortex-M33 lands exactly as U.S. policy pushes PQC-capable gear into government systems by 2030–2031, with broader migration working toward 2035. That’s a competitive advantage in the MCU space worth highlighting, and I don't see almost anyone talking about it. And yes, similar PQC roadmaps are emerging globally: the EU published a coordinated PQC implementation roadmap in June 2025, and Canada set milestones to finish high-priority migrations by 2031 and all remaining systems by 2035. China is also pursuing a PQC migration plan.

G4M35

I was doing some back of the envelope analysis of Intel last night, and I could not help but thinking: 1. Is someone going to buy them? Who? 2. Are they going to merge with someone? Who? Of course there's always the issue of the FTC. and also national security... and so, here we are. > It seems the US is now a nation that nationalizes it's companies. Something the US has been quite critical about other countries doing. [T.A.R.P. has entered the chat] no no no, why buy a stake? Just give NSA money! [Chrysler has entered the chat] Yeah, no buying stake, only money giveaway NSA.

Greedyanda

I highly doubt there is an active backdoor that communicates information with the US but you'd have to be naive to think Nvida isnt forced to share known vulnerabilities with the NSA.

dopadelic

It literally is. They previously had a scandal accusing Chinese of putting spy chips on Supermicro motherboards that turned out to be fabricated and unfounded. Everyone from the DoD, NSA, CIA, Apple, Amazon, etc refuted the claims. Another cybersecurity specialist declared the chip too small to spy.

Capt1an_Cl0ck

This was my guess. Or the federal government (CIA NSA).

M1sfit_Jammer

Feds won’t care about that… but I could bet my retirement that the NSA has a listening program that flags your conversation for review if you talk about certain topics.

Head_Battle9531

The folks behind all this are people like Russ Vought (head of the office of budget management and primary author of project 2025) and Howard Lutnick (commerce secretary and former Cantor Fitzgerald which is the biggest supporter of the heritage foundation). They want an era of isolationism for the U.S. because they think this country can prosper with the right access to raw materials and straight labor. It’s why they are working on shutting down access to proper education, having Trump go on and on about acquiring Canada and Greenland which is partly for resources and accessibility but also as a buffer zone to the rest of the world. They have been convinced into thinking AI will figure out all the problems with Elon Musk (SpaceX/Starshield/Starlink/Grok) and Peter Thiel/Palantir. Palantir is what found Elon his adult and kids DOGE team which most people have forgotten is really USDS which has access to most federal agencies. Understand that the decision by Trump to fire the NSA chief and his deputy may be in fact be the most dangerous decision Trump has made so far. Timothy Haugh like his last 2 predecessors were restricting the access and control Peter Thiel had through his company Palantir over the CIA/NSA to commit domestic surveillance. Palantir who is now the biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA based on publicly available data on DOD contracts (they had $750 million added to their current contract a while back) along with providing day-to-day operations for both agencies. ⁠Palantir is contracted with state and local governments and police here in the U.S. The goal for Palantir is and always has been domestic surveillance. Palantir is an intelligence corporation which provides advanced analysis, sigint, osint, criminal and threat awareness and kill chain efficiencies to all levels of US, UK, and corporate agencies. Now comes the push for removing Trump from office. Elon was the early test to see if scapegoat mechanism would work and it sort of did for him. Which is sort of the plan, scapegoat mechanism at its finest. Peter is a ⁠key believer of scapegoat mechanism for which he says Trump fills that role. Thiel has been grooming JD Vance since 2011 as his benefactor and mentor, Thiel brought Vance to Mar-a- Lago to smooth over things with Trump so Vance could be VP, Thiel gave Vance $15 million in donations to run for Senate (the largest amount of money ever donated to a single Senate candidate ever) Scapegoat mechanism is simple that you have someone in power take on a lot of bad actions then remove them and so the masses feel it’s been all undone. The test case was Elon and DOGE which worked perfectly seeing as how all the federal investigations into Elon are gone and DOGE is still at all the federal agencies. Elon’s employee Amanda Scales still has the private server setup at OPM. All the data they got from the federal agencies and Treasury department when they had hard physical access is still under their control. In September when the gap fund bill signed in March expires along with the deferred resignation program kicking in and the SSA/IRS data being handed over to Palantir as part of the doge plan they have provided for updating the SSA system there could be a lot of reasons for him to be removed from office. Peter Thiel/Palantir just got what they wanted, access to a big enough database for the first step in complete surveillance. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/trump-citizenship-database Peter is also a major defense contractor for the UK intelligence community and army along with the major police forces in the UK. He branched out to their healthcare a few years ago with a contract to shift through all the data at NHS England which is done now so Kier announced that NHS England will be shutdown (not NHS). Peter through his company has full access to Norway’s government and civilian surveillance services. Peter/Palantir provides direct support for the IDF (Israel) in all their operations from Gaza to the West Bank to Iran. Thiel directly owns roughly 180 million publicly traded shares which 7%. His investment firm Rivendell 7 owns 34 million publicly traded shares. Other Thiel vehicles own 37 million shares. Thiel entities also own 32.5 million supervoting Class B shares in Palantir. Those class b shares carry 10 votes while public ones carry only 1 vote per share. Now here is the kicker for why he still controls Palantir (link below), Thiel has sole investment power over 335,000 class F shares as part of a trust that has 49.99% voting interest in the company. https://www.barrons.com/articles/palantir-stock-chairman-peter-thiel-b63415c7 Alex Karp the ceo of Palantir knew Thiel well before 2003 when Thiel tapped him to be ceo. Karp has condemned “woke” ways of thinking, calling woke a central risk to Palantir, that Palantir is a counter-example to companies he considers woke. Karp condemned pro-Palestine protests calling them an infection inside of our society, he remarked the peace activists are war activists and they should be sent to North Korea. Karp has said the west has a superior way of living and said he supports Palantir contract with ICE and using the software to enable separation of families. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/alex-karp-hill-summit-trump-00155571 Peter Thiel • ⁠born in West Germany, grew up and went to school in the city of Swakopmund in West South Africa, the city was notorious for its continued glorification of Nazism to a dad who was an engineer working on uranium which was in violation of international law • ⁠Partners with Elon Musk at PayPal, early investor in Facebook • ⁠self-proclaimed Christian nationalist, believes women right to vote is wrong, idolizes Curtis Yarvin and Yarvin’s philosophy on replacing democracy with authoritarianism all in Peter’s own book • ⁠Palantir after its creation in 2003 was bailed out partly by In-Q-Tel the CIA’s venture capital firm

Wowmuchrya

Buffet rolling in his grave being down 4b on ketchup company when all he had to do was buy cooked books car company or FBI NSA CIA spy company with 150 and 600 PE. Value investing is a decade old, buy overpriced tech and hop on board loser.

floo82

If you're just trying to buy drugs or pirate things, use the tor browser and pray the NSA doesn't care. If you're trying to view illegal pornography, even people that know how to do anything WILL turn you in because people should die in a fire.

floo82

You sending your traffic through 10-28 virtual machines the NSA has over 100 thousand of in Virginia

NVDAismygod

They sell your data to the NSA/CIA/FBI for unknown prices

Any-Video4464

No way. They are just getting started. They are slowly but surely making their way into tons of gov agencies. # Summary Table |Agency|Area of Use| |:-|:-| |DoD (Army, Air Force, SOCOM, etc.)|Military logistics & intelligence| |CIA / NSA|Classified intelligence analysis| |DHS (ICE, CBP, FEMA)|Immigration, border, disaster response| |FBI / DEA / Marshals|Law enforcement & investigations| |HHS / CDC / VA|Healthcare, pandemic response| |DOE / IRS / Treasury|Energy, tax fraud, cybersecurity| |NASA / NGA / NRO|Space and satellite intelligence|

gUHrayt

They absolutely are, but none of this is new, and the NSA was doing it before them.

WeaknessEmergency

It does exactly what Snowden denounced the NSA did, but worldwide, better, and legaller

meepstone

Been under surveillance since the Patriot Act passed on October 26, 2001. NSA has all your emails, texts, voicemails, etc.

JJdante

Part of me feels like palantir is just getting unreported/ unreportable government contracts. Imagine if the Pentagon or the NSA had a ticket you could invest in.

NVDAismygod

PLTR must have dropped the price of selling your text messages to NSA by 15%

Vaxtin

I work in healthcare for a nationwide private company that owns dozens of practices. I talk daily with the execs and make presentations for vp and cfo. I have been saying that I would not touch this company with a ten foot pole ever since people like you posted their initial positions. Nobody listened. Sure, put $300k into an insurance company that’s being investigated for Medicare fraud (lol!), and who has been trying ever since Jan 2025 (more so than ever) to not pay out claims. I handle NSA claims and I have seen it directly. They used to not even care about NSA, then in Jan 2025 they started responding to our actions and began every attempt to not lose money. The writing was on the wall for me.

Vaxtin

Yeah I handle NSA claims, deal with lawyers and report to the VP of the company for meetings/presentations. Sure, have AI do that.

luv2block

Get a job at the NSA, then monitor all the communications of industry leaders and find all the little companies that are going to be acquired for billions and buy them before they are acquired. Full proof method.

DONNIENARC0

idk why people think this one is political, it's been happening over a decade. > A document leaked to TechCrunch revealed that Palantir's clients as of 2013 included at least 12 groups in the U.S. government, including the CIA, the DHS, the NSA, the FBI, the CDC, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, the Special Operations Command, the United States Military Academy, the Joint Improvised-Threat Defeat Organization and Allies, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. > On June 18, 2010, Vice President Joe Biden and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag held a press conference at the White House announcing the success of fighting fraud in the stimulus by the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB). Biden credited the success to the software, Palantir, being deployed by the federal government.[30] He announced that the capability would be deployed at other government agencies, starting with Medicare and Medicaid.

bogey3putt69420

Full fledged regardation happening here “As long as the GOP is in power, Palantir will be granted plenty of no-bid contracts worth billions” • ⁠On June 18, 2010, Vice President Joe Biden and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag held a press conference at the White House announcing the success of fighting fraud in the stimulus by the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB). Biden credited the success to the software, Palantir, being deployed by the federal government. “I fully expect them to replace the NSA and CIA in the next few years” • ⁠One of PLTR’s initial investors was In-Q-Tel, a CIA venture capital arm. Remember friends, being dumb is expensive

bogey3putt69420

Full fledged regardation happening here “As long as the GOP is in power, Palantir will be granted plenty of no-bid contracts worth billions” - On June 18, 2010, Vice President Joe Biden and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag held a press conference at the White House announcing the success of fighting fraud in the stimulus by the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB). Biden credited the success to the software, Palantir, being deployed by the federal government. “I fully expect them to replace the NSA and CIA in the next few years” - One of PLTR’s initial investors was In-Q-Tel, a CIA venture capital arm. Remember friends, being dumb is expensive

shicken684

I fully expect them to replace the NSA and CIA in the next few years. Who needs actual people reviewing data when ai can do it all? It's also the CEO's fantasy to have no federal government.

IslesFanInNH

Definitely recommend researching LUNR and reviewing the prior Intuitive Machines earnings call transcripts the last few quarters. You will realize that lunar landing are only a small part of their overall business and they are getting involved the National Security/Dept Of Defense programs. Their main driving force is going to data relay services with income generation starting with the first satellite placement part of the IM3 mission in q1 of 2026. What Intuitive Machines has proven that they do the best compared to anyone else it transit from earth to moon and pin point lunar orbit insertion procedures. They get to via lunar orbit faster than anyone has ever done before and they have the best accuracy of orbit position and anyone has before as well. Their data transmission speeds are faster than anyone/anything to ever go to the moon. The satellite that is being placed in orbit with IM3 is the first of five of the $4.2b NSNS constellation that will generate income/profits for the company for pay by minute usage . As this satellite will be place with direct line of sight to the earth, it will instantly be accessible to companies/agencies for the pay by minute usage. Be sure to listen on their [next earning call on 8/7](https://investors.intuitivemachines.com/news-releases/news-release-details/intuitive-machines-announces-date-second-quarter-2025-financial) for 2025 Q2 earnings and pay attention to their mission updates, forward guidance, and additional NSA/DoD plans. They will also discuss the NSNS and likely to discuss the on going plans as well as other vehicle updates (zephyr, LTV, Nova D). LUNR is certainly volatile in the short term, but with them, if you play the long game 3-5 years out, you will be handsomely rewarded. No. I am not a bag holder as my share average is $3.91 for 1,000 shares. I do not intend on selling these for 3-5 years.

Altruistic-Buy8779

We use it but they suck. They're a bunch of NSA backdoored over priced hardware.

Ok_Fig705

OP clearly doesn't know what 1996 NSA ecash is. https://preview.redd.it/9c311crz0nef1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71974ea8f4de259638fd3aaff9406a45a09ba677 Also here's the Van Nuys Satoshi' mother.... Hope this helps you understand what Bitcoin is OP it's not what you think It's a CBDC the first one

SidonyD

When Obama use NSA to wiretap french big companies and french president office, he was a good ally ?

NVDAismygod

Palantir releasing new product that connects your social security number, your home address, your face from your phone camera, and every single one of your personal messages sent via text. NSA paid 500B for access👀

Grow_away_420

Id take big brother on steroids over immigration policy brought to you by Steven Miller and trade policy by Pete Navarro. Between google and the NSA they already know what I'm gonna do before I even do it if they cared enough

doctad92

Girl facebook has more skeletons than users. Bet they selling that shit black market and NSA

TroubleInMyMind

Well when you put it like that maybe Satoshi was just the NSA.

Affectionate-Idea690

German current account balance NSA actual 9.587B (forecast -, previous 23.5B)

Ok_Cry7572

All suspicious suicides 1. Jeffrey Epstein (2019, USA) Role: Financier, convicted sex offender What He Knew: Ties to sex trafficking involving powerful global elites Cause of Death: Hanging in jail Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Cameras failed, guards asleep, cellmate removed --- 2. John McAfee (2021, USA/Spain) Role: Software mogul, political exile What He Knew: Alleged dirt on global intelligence and tax evasion details Cause of Death: Hanging in Spanish prison Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Left warning he wouldn’t kill himself --- 3. Vince Foster (1993, USA) Role: White House Deputy Counsel (Clinton Admin) What He Knew: Clinton scandals (Whitewater, others) Cause of Death: Gunshot to head Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Gun had no fingerprints, inconsistencies in scene --- 4. Seth Rich (2016, USA) Role: DNC Staffer What He Knew: Alleged WikiLeaks email source (disputed) Cause of Death: Shot twice in back Ruling: Homicide (botched robbery) Suspicion: Nothing stolen, case remains unsolved --- 5. Michael Hastings (2013, USA) Role: Investigative journalist What He Knew: Critical reporting on military leaders; working on CIA/NSA story Cause of Death: Fiery car crash Ruling: Accident Suspicion: Claims of remote car hacking; warned friends of surveillance --- 6. Dr. David Kelly (2003, UK) Role: Weapons inspector What He Knew: Iraq WMD intelligence falsification Cause of Death: Slit wrist in woods Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Minimal blood, no fingerprints on knife --- 7. Danny Casolaro (1991, USA) Role: Investigative journalist What He Knew: “The Octopus” — INSLAW, Iran-Contra, CIA corruption Cause of Death: Multiple wrist slashes in hotel tub Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Missing notes, rapid embalming, had warned "not suicidal" --- 8. Alberto Nisman (2015, Argentina) Role: Prosecutor What He Knew: Government cover-up of Iran’s role in 1994 bombing Cause of Death: Gunshot to head Ruling: Initially suicide, later questioned Suspicion: Killed day before public testimony --- 9. Roman Starovoit (2025, Russia) Role: Russian Transport Minister What He Knew: Alleged to be part of major Kremlin-linked corruption scandal Cause of Death: Gunshot in car Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Cameras malfunctioned, high-profile dismissal hours before death --- 10. Heorhiy Kirpa (2004, Ukraine) Role: Minister of Transport What He Knew: Massive construction corruption Cause of Death: Gunshot wound Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Political instability context; called for key reforms --- 11. Shirley Brifman (1972, Australia) Role: Brothel owner, whistleblower What She Knew: Police corruption and prostitution racket Cause of Death: Barbiturate overdose Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Died days before testifying --- 12. Andrzej Lepper (2011, Poland) Role: Deputy PM, anti-corruption politician What He Knew: Alleged sex-trafficking and political corruption Cause of Death: Hanging Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: No fingerprints, security cameras down, key witness also died --- 13. Aleh Byabenin (2010, Belarus) Role: Opposition journalist What He Knew: Election fraud and regime abuse Cause of Death: Hanging Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Twisted ankle, bruises, no note --- 14. Jimmy Mohlala (2009, South Africa) Role: Municipal speaker, whistleblower What He Knew: Stadium contract fraud ahead of 2010 World Cup Cause of Death: Shot multiple times at home Ruling: Homicide Suspicion: Political motive, threats before death --- 15. Beranton Whisenant Jr. (2017, USA) Role: U.S. federal prosecutor What He Knew: Investigating visa and corruption fraud Cause of Death: Gunshot to head on beach Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Gun never found, no public follow-up --- 16. John Barnett (2024, USA) Role: Boeing whistleblower What He Knew: Aircraft safety violations Cause of Death: Gunshot in truck before testimony Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Left note blaming Boeing, had previously said “I’d never kill myself” --- 17. Gary Webb (2004, USA) Role: Investigative journalist (Dark Alliance) What He Knew: CIA-Contra-crack cocaine connection Cause of Death: Two gunshots to the head Ruling: Suicide Suspicion: Double gunshot rare; had been blacklisted by media

this_guy_fks

The Golden Share issued by U. S. Steel gives the U.S. government the right to appoint and remove one independent director and consent rights on specific matters. The Golden Share allows the U.S. government to block: reductions in committed capital investments under the NSA changing U. S. Steel's name or headquarters redomiciling U. S. Steel outside of the U.S. transferring production or jobs outside of the U.S. material acquisitions of competing U.S. businesses certain decisions on the closure or idling of existing U.S. manufacturing facilities, trade, labor and sourcing outside of the U.S. The Golden Share is nontransferable and does not give the U.S. government any other voting rights, nor the right to receive dividends. https://share.google/L0U8gx1DlLzTWL4BT

Wiscoguy1982

Suppressed by NSA I’m sure.

Kitchen-Agent-2033

More like 2001 AI inference engines have been in development since I did my CS BSc project on one (early 1980s). They have been used in text, image and voice printing by NSA/GCHQ since about 1986. SO its really the liberation of a military technology, seeking to find civilian uses (just like crypto and the web, in 1998). The downside of AI is that MOST of its use in the military world was about tracking and surveillance - which will be the first uses in the civilian world.

MetalMuted4307

This is social media. I have been on it since before facebook was even invented. I take everything with a grain of salt. The truth is you don’t know who is on the sending end. You don’t know if they use this platform to just watch and gather information on you so they can create a random account and say “hey this is so and so I’m not good with names but I’m good with faces” NSA has all you say on anything.

TheChestHairComeback

What has the NSA been doing? Or Google? Or Apple? Or Facebook? Or now open ai? …Literally the entire life you have lived has been data tracked, aggregated and sold. Palantir has a different theory. That data should be sacred to its owner, whether a corporation or an individuals. The rights we were promised as humans might actually return if Palantir steps in front of the old guard who didn’t give an F about the ethics of tracking you or your “data.”

ctrlaltcreate

They are the engine of the coming authoritarianism. Fundamentally it will be a mass surveillance and profiling system. An extra-legal NSA.

Ghostblue88

Palantir has been working for the government for over 20 years and across multiple administrations and nobody had a problem with that and the work they do for the government until Trump went into office. Now all of a sudden these people act like they are this evil entity, in reality it’s just there hatred for trump. The spying database they all allege trump instructed palantir to build on the American people was built 20 years ago by the NSA, if you don’t believe me just google Edward Snowden.

SunburnedSherlock

Have people forgot Snowden and NSA already?