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Yeah Ive looked into SEPP. I don't think I'll need to though, I'll just let the 401k sit and grow for 15 or 20 more years before I even touch it.

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Congrats on the investment discipline, great example. However, being blunt, the example you're laying out is confusing. Are you saying you have a 20-and-out Pension that also provides retiree health benefits, or are you saying that as a result of S&I discipline, your able to draw $3,800/m from the S&I account, retired at 47 ? Reason for even saying anything beyond big pats on the back... If your goal of having enough of a nest egg to retire early was met through S&I, then for the benefit of discussion of others - is your strategy to access the Roth 401 without incurring the 10% early withdrawal penalty via a SEPP plans with the IRS? \-or is your nest egg still growing while you sustain from a defined benefit Pension that prior employment provided? Could be a really useful quick discussion for the benefit of all of us who follow this sub.

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There are ways to take money out of 401k penalty free before retirement age. Method called substantially equal periodic payments (SEPP). But yeah, compound interest is insane. At some point, your investment gain/losses will overtake your contributions.

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>I am anticipating a promotion and raise, and my first instinct was to increase my 403b contributions. But then I thought “I’ll need that money well before 59.5”. A documented disability or terminal illness is a common exception to the "normal" distribution rules for retirement accounts. Additionally, your 403b might allow for periodic distributions under the "Age of 55" rules. There are additional ways to access funds without penalty (72t SEPP, etc). >Complicating this, I am also inheriting \~1 million when my last remaining parent departs. The rules are different for "permanent disability" versus "chronically ill", but whichever applies would classify you as an Eligible Designated Beneficiary (EDB), which greatly changes the distribution rules for an Inherited IRA (assuming some or all of the $1M is in that retirement vehicle). You might want to consider whether your parent should leave the funds to you in a Special Needs Trust, which might allow for better coordination of various government programs/benefits. [https://www.kitces.com/blog/secure-act-2-0-irs-regulations-rmd-required-minimum-distributions-10-year-rule-eligible-designated-beneficiary-see-through-conduit-trust/](https://www.kitces.com/blog/secure-act-2-0-irs-regulations-rmd-required-minimum-distributions-10-year-rule-eligible-designated-beneficiary-see-through-conduit-trust/) Further, I'd be studying up on Social Security disability rules in the event that your condition eventually forces you out of the workplace. The more you can document now and prepare for regarding disability/illness rules, the better. Best wishes.

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Governmental 457(b)s are a financial superpower since it doubles your tax-protected retirement options compared to just a 403(b)/401(k). Plus it combines the tax break of a traditional 403(b) with some of the accessibility of a Roth IRA since you can access when you leave service rather than waiting for 59.5. It’s obviously great for early retirees for this reason — no need for SEPP or rule of 55. For all these reasons I would max it before even looking at non-matched 403(b) contributions. I’ve written a couple posts about them on my [blog](https://www.elbowpatchmoney.com) for an academic audience: - [Differences between 403(b)s and 457(b)s you will want to know](https://www.elbowpatchmoney.com/differences-between-403bs-and-457bs-you-will-want-to-know/) - [Governmental 457(b)s: the academic financial superpower you probably can’t afford to use](https://www.elbowpatchmoney.com/governmental-457bs-the-academic-financial-superpower-you-probably-cant-afford-to-use/)

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no. pretty much never. you can convert to roth (roth ladder) or do SEPP. Youll save a shitload of money being a little more patient. \>It appears the penalty would be 20% LTCG plus 10% penalty which is still lower than a high earners marginal tax rate it is taxed as income, so no. youd probably see half, or even a bit less than half lump summing that much.

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I retired this year at 42, butt it isn't really a big deal. Doing a Roth conversion ladder and I will likely take half of the IRA and start a SEPP with it, I will probably wait for the 5 years to be done to start that. If you pull enough out that it drops below the original amount you transferred in they will start clawing back the 3% bonus. If my gains are high enough after 3 years or so I might start the SEPP then. Once you start a SEPP, you are locked in to that withdrawal till you are 59.5

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I edited my original post, you should have 5 years of taxable brokerage and/or Roth contributions to bridge the gap of the Roth conversion ladder. You can do a SEPP but IMO that can be added to the Roth conversion ladder and does not need to be done on its own. Def fill up 401k/TIRA as a priority before adding to taxable/Roth backdoors.

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The basis on the taxable is not taxed, this is the same as the contributions on the Roth. There is no difference there. The big disadvantage that nobody seems to talk about is the taxable gains, which can be very significant over 10-20 years or more, are not available on a Roth till 59.5. SEPP does not work if you are doing a Roth conversion ladder. I would love to be wrong on this, I want to access my Roth earnings. Taxable earnings are available and keeping it to 0% tax is not hard if you just buy and hold. And you can tax loss harvest, which can be very valuable if done right. You have to save more for the bridge if you pick Roth over taxable. Is it a big difference. No, the MBDR is awesome. I just think taxable account's do not get the credit they deserve. They add flexibility which can be especially useful for an early retiree.

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the contributions on your Roth or basis in your taxable account is the same. So no benefit there for Roth. You do not pay tax on your basis in a taxable, only the gain. The gain is accessible though in early retirement with a taxable account. It is not in a Roth. If you look into a SEPP on a Roth IRA like I did recently you will find that there are issues: 1) If you are already doing a Roth Conversion Ladder, the contributions/conversions have to come out first before earnings. So Maybe you can pull them out before you start a RCL but once you start the conversions take 5 years to season. 2) The SEPP on a Roth I believe adds taxes, not 100% sure about that but there is so little information, nobody does it for whatever reason. I hope someone says I can access the earnings on my Roth without paying a penalty or taxes before 59.5 but because I have started a RCL, I think it is not an option at all because of the order of the distributions. So assume Roth earnings are not available till 59.5, that is a very big disadvantage vs a taxable. I have to put away much more money. Taxable might double in 5 years and all that is available without tax. You can have 120K at 0% tax for LTCG a year...that is pretty sweet. Taxable can be bad if you are not careful, the article you keep linking which I read like 10 years ago assumes a high tax rate. It is very easy to pay 0% tax on a taxable account. [https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/s/PKlstwvwFc](https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/s/PKlstwvwFc)

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>Did I say better? I said backdoor Roth is overrated. well at least we agree taxable isn't better. >401K/TIRA and taxable is the optimum path. again, hot take there. that is saying Roth is worse than taxable for net return to your pocket, which is not true. again, Roth isn't hugely better than taxable in most cases, but it is better. and you can access the contributions at any time if you are worried about ease of access. with a mega backdoor roth the contributions can be significant and can potentially bridge for more than 5 years. or use SEPP to access other retirement accounts as a bridge. >I was on the work the least amount of time as possible path. taking a less efficient way is not the least amount of time to save for FIRE. Again: https://www.madfientist.com/how-to-access-retirement-funds-early/ even if roth is equal in terms of capital gains in retirement, you don't have to worry about taxes on dividends during your high earning income years or tracking capital gains/losses during growth phases. or if you ever change taxable account brokers you have to pay taxes on realized gains. and a roth has a lot more legal protections during bankruptcy and otherwise, as well as benefits for kids inheriting your estate (if that's applicable). also roth IRA withdrawals also don't count towards your ACA MAGI, which can be a significant swing in healthcare costs if you go over that limit. that heathcare credit alone can mean the difference between someone reaching their FIRE number or not. and from the article you cited, the recommend order includes maxing out your 401k, IRA, and HSA first. that's $38.8k/yr for a married couple and I don't know many people, FIRE or otherwise, who will be less than the LTCG 0% income limit and also able to save $38.8+k/yr... (or $45.8k/yr w/Roth funded). and lastly, what is true today may/may not be true in the future. taxable brokerages are good but should be used for excess savings after tax advantaged savings are full, including Roth. so, if you're saving $47+k/yr then.

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How about by the time to retire early you need at least 5 years of expenses in a taxable brokerage. If you plan to use a Roth Conversion Ladder. If you want to use a SEPP you can only take out 5%, so that IRA needs to be quite large. Can you fund it with Roth contributions, I guess but taxable is pretty powerful. Have money in all 3 buckets.

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In a Roth? Not really. I am using a Roth conversion ladder to convert my traditional IRA to Roth and using the taxable account to live off of. Retired in January. I plan to start a SEPP in a few years with 50% of my traditional IRA and keep using the rest for the ladder.

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The general best practice here is to max out the Roth IRA first with at least the minimum Roth 401k to get max matching. You may contribute more. But the company's matching will always be regular IRA portion of your 401k. While this does give your ability to overcome the Roth IRA limit, there are some caveats. First, in Roth, you can withdraw your contributions at any time, no penalty, in your 401k, you can't do so without a penalty. You may rollover that to Roth IRA at 59.5. Or sooner if your company has the rule of 55 with SEPP calculation (but you have to be retired from the company at that age). For high income earners, Roth IRA is out of the picture, but Roth 401k, backdoor, and mega backdoor are options.

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Thanks for the post! Sorry let me rephrase a few things. My 'financial advisor' I mentioned is a free resource available at my duty station but mainly acts as a budget planner for those that are not as well-versed when it comes to their money - so idk why the attitude around it lol. They did mention the things you stated that allow me to access 401k early such as SEPP, but I don't like the government telling me when and under what circumstances I can access my money, which is why I'm shifting focus to individual accounts - but hey that's 'merica for ya. Although I still do see the value in tax advantaged retirement accounts which is why I am not ignoring them. At my current rate my Roth 401k will be 1-2m the way contributions and employer matches work by the time I am mid 40s if I stay in, so I'm not too worried about my 401k. Let me rephrase my risk statement: I don't care about drawdowns as long as I know I will eventually recover from it. I am aware another '15 year drawback' is possible but I am at the age where I can tolerate it and adjust my risk as I grow older. Thank you for the time you put into this post I'll consider some of the things you said!

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1. 401k plans can be accessed early with things like conversion ladders, SEPP plans, etc. Nice financial advisor you've got there... Maybe he isnt familiar with r/Fire. 2. Just because you want to retire early doesnt mean you wont live 30 years after 59.5. Money still needs to be tax free growing in a 401k. Not paying taxes is enormous. 3. If you want more risk, either tilt to risk premia or leverage. You can buy plain VTI and be perfectly efficient with factor exposures, or you can take on more undiversifiable risk with value and small caps and other 5-factor CAPM stuff. Particularly funds like AVUV (small cap value). > As long as I know my money will return to its peak within a few years 4. You either need to get comfortable with this not being true, or you cant be 100% equities. After the start of the great depression, it took 6 years to recover then crashed again 40% and took 9 years to recover. Then after WWII it crashed 40% again and didnt recover for 5 years. Then there were some smaller crashes but in 1968 a downturn started with super high inflation and the US total market dropped nearly -60% by 1974 and it took until 1983 to hit the previous 1968 high after inflation. Thats a 15 year drawback. Then, after the dot com bubble in 2000, it took until 2013 to fully recover on inflation adjusted terms. You need to amend this risk tolerance statement that you need the funds to recover in a few years. It could and will take over a decade eventually. You cannot have the great returns of the equity risk premium without the risk. 5. SCHD is weak sauce, stick with market beta. If you want value exposure, but AVUV. Diversification internationally theoretically produces better risk adjusted returns and hedges US inflation. Inclusion of 10-30% long treasury bond ETFs (not the lame old ass boglehead BND which is a bad diversifier) can help meet your goal of having shorter portfolio drawdowns. Here is a backtest to illustrate. https://testfol.io/?s=bZoXbbtDxU7 ZROZ is a 25+ yr duration treasury bond ETF. These are flight to safety assets. They spike during crashes. The 10-20% inclusion of ZROZ actually increased your longterm CAGR while reducing volatility and max drawdown and time it takes to return to your former peak (measured by Ulcer index. Lower Ulcer is better).

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For those that also had no clue what this meant, here’s an expanded response that explains what each of these are and how you can use them to access money before retirement. As someone who is also interested in early retirement, this is very informative. It also makes me feel like I need an accountant or someone who can advise these types of strategies. **** **Accessing Your Retirement Funds Early: A Guide** Want to retire early but worried about early withdrawal penalties? Here are a few strategies to access your retirement funds before 59½: **1. 72(t) Distribution (SEPP):** * **What it is:** A rule allowing early withdrawals from 401(k)s or IRAs in regular, structured payments. * **When to use it:** If you need consistent income before 59½. * **Requirements:** Fixed payment schedule for at least 5 years or until 59½. **2. Rule of 55:** * **What it is:** Allows penalty-free withdrawals from a 401(k) if you’re 55 or older and separate from your employer. * **When to use it:** If you retire early and have a 401(k) from a previous job. **3. Roth Conversion Ladder:** * **What it is:** A strategy of converting portions of a traditional IRA or 401(k) to a Roth IRA over time. * **When to use it:** To access funds penalty-free after 5 years, but you’ll owe taxes on the converted amount. **Key Takeaways:** * These strategies require careful planning and adherence to IRS rules. * Choose the method that best fits your age, financial situation, and retirement goals. **Disclaimer:** This is general information and not financial advice. Consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any decisions.

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Yes, it does take away flexibility, but if you have some after-tax investments, you can use those as a “bridge” if the SEPP isn’t enough.

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Good suggestion! But the rules aren’t very flexible! Thanks for reminding me about SEPP.. I think it could be a great bridge in the years before 59 1/2.

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Did you ever look into SEPP? This would avoid the penalties if you can follow the rules for this!!

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It actually still makes sense to put your funds in a traditional 401k even if "loopholes" get closed. (Using "loopholes" generously, since things like 79(t) SEPP are built in to give people early access to their retirement accounts for any reason). The penalty for early withdrawal is 10%, then you pay income tax on the funds at withdrawal. This table has a lot of assumptions about income, but for a simplified example of how this could be better: if you invest $100,000 for 10 years pre-tax vs $78,000 in post-tax funds, earning a return of 7% each year, assuming that * The funds are contributed out of spare money earned each year that falls in the 22% tax bracket (over $61,750/yr) * Funds are drawn out over 5 years and there are no gains after withdrawals begin (to simplify the math) * Withdrawals for 401k are taxed at 0%-12% as your sole source of income, not including any other income sources. * Taxes on Capital Gains are 0% because 1/5 of the total brokerage balance is less than $47,000, where the 15% tax bracket kicks in, but the math gets worse for brokerages if you pay the 15%. Time| 401k|Brokerage ---|---|--- At Earning| $100,000|$100,000 At Investment| $100,000|$78,000 Gains after 10 years | $96,715 | $75,437 Income Tax Paid | $13,686 | $22,000 Penalty Paid over 5 years | $19,672|$0 Total Tax Paid | $33,358 | $22,000 Post-Tax Funds Withdrawn | $163,357 | $153,437 So even in fairly optimal scenarios, where you're paying 0% capital gains (essentially treating the taxable brokerage as a Roth), your early payment of tax funds really cuts into your returns. Even paying the 10% penalty, the 401k still beats out the brokerage.

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If you only have to bridge a 9 year gap, the 79(t) substantially equal periodic payments (SEPP) will probably work fine for you. Just make sure that you know how much you will need each year (approximately) and ensure you're withdrawing on the schedule. It's technical, but penalty free if you follow the rules.

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There are plenty of ways to access savings from retirement accounts prior to age 59.5 without penalty, including withdrawing Roth IRA contributions anytime and using the substantially equal periodic payments (SEPP) exception for retirement plans. You really ought to consider maxing a Roth IRA, knowing that if you need to access some money, you can always withdraw the contributions penalty free. The earnings are subject to the penalty, but after saving for a few years the contributions could be $25-50k to potentially withdraw if needed.

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Well you do what you want, but, if I want to utilize my money, and not work forever, what is the efficient way to draw my money? Try to SEPP / 72t the account? Interest rates impact that ability and may not be the most beneficial, and I would likely need a significant amount of funds to meet my budget in a low rate environment than I may have assumed otherwise (have seen this impact first hand). Plus ordinary income rates on all of it vs. preferential capital gains and qualified dividend rates for a significant portion of it? I'll take the preferential rates. I'm all for and will take some Roth dollars and pay my pittance currently, but why would I load up and defer for all those years so that I get it in the shorts on the back end at ordinary income rates? I value flexibility in my ability to use my dollars more than anything else. I lose that flexibility when I shovel funds into the IRA. I'm not going to let tax dictate what I want to do, and can maneuver to a place that I am comfortable with the consequence. I also don't have forced RMD's like with an IRA, I get basis setup-up to my kid for any inheritance, I don't have a forced 10 year liquidation of assets like with an IRA when inherited. Again, I value my flexibility over all else, and the ability to use funds when I dictate, not wait until I'm 59-1/2 if I don't want to, or be forced into some other situation that may not be preferential for what my goals are. My end game is to have a brokerage account that generates a sufficient amount of income annually that supports my life so I have the option to work or not, and allows me to do the things that I want to do. Maybe I want to travel and volunteer at national parks and just hike all day (real possibility that I may do), pack up and possibly move part of the year when my kid is older and decides to attend college somewhere (buy a rental and make money with this likely, add to the rentals that I already have as well), do some side gig work to stay busy, or whatever it may be. But if i'm 50 and this takes place, know what kind of investment makes this more difficult to achieve? pre-tax retirement accounts. I can turn off reinvestment in a brokerage whenever I want and just take some cash instead, I can't do that with an IRA. So does this cost me some current dollars? Sure, but most of that is at a preferred rate anyways, and I don't live the lifestyle I could if I just spent all I have, so I can make it work. I'm playing the long game and know what my end goal is, and when the day arrives that my kid decides to go to college, and I'm ready to just pack up and sell the place I have and travel, or be closer to him, or whatever it may be, I have the option to make that decision without fear of tax consequence based on where my income is coming from, and when a lot of that is preferred rates, and I am pretty minimal income otherwise because of it, a lot of it can carry a 0% preferred rate in today's world. No guarantee that lasts, but to an extent I look at it as me pre-paying my retirement plans on dividends and gains for living how I want and on my terms later.

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1. The penalty age is 59.5, not 65. 2. You can take an up to $1,000 emergency withdrawal at any age without penalty, and if you pay the money back in, it is untaxed. 3. If you get enough invested, there are certain ways to be able to access the money sooner without penalty. SEPP for early retirement, roth conversion ladder, etc. 4. If you do Roth 401(k), and then rollover to roth IRA, you can access what you put in without tax/penalty, only the earnings/profits are taxed/penalized. 5. Investing in taxable accounts such as buying SPY, as you build wealth the taxes start to get quite brutal. I have to take several hundred dollars out of my paycheck every month just to cover the taxes on capital gains/dividends/interest. I invest a lot in retirement accounts for this reason. I should be on track to be able to retire at 40 if I want to.

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It may not be what you want anyways if you have a goal of trying to retire early anyways. I know someone mentioned the SEPP with retirement accounts, sometimes called a 72t, but I have found that the low interest rate environment we have seen the last 10 or so years, the amount of cash you need available in an account for that to make sense may not accomplish what you want. In those cases, a brokerage account that you can live off of with dividends and gains make more sense.

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You can withdraw from retirement accounts early, read up on SEPP.

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You definitely can touch retirement accounts before 59.5. Penalty, SEPP, or in the case of Roth, no penalty on contributions with 5 year period.

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You can withdraw from those accounts before you're 59. Roth IRA ladder or SEPP would be the most common ways.

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The question in your title is answered by your first sentence, so I won't address that further. As for how to access retirement accounts early, you can withdraw Roth contributions, 5 year Roth conversion ladder, SEPP, or even just take the 10% penalty as better than capital gains tax.

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That's where those other methods of accessing your money come in - Roth conversion & SEPP withdrawals are great tools that would let you retire early if all your money was in a 401k. But in any case, I think you have it backwards. You will almost certainly want to be retired at 60 and after than you will only in midlife. Saving for those 60 years is your first priority. Imagine you're saving up for a car, and some extra to get some nice wheels for it. Would it ever make sense to save for the wheels *first*? It makes just as much sense to save for early retirement without first saving for regular retirement.

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You can't plan on retiring young until you can still be retired when you're old. It's not 'retiring' if you plan to quit work at 35 then go back to work at 60. You have to save for normal retirement first, and your retirement accounts are by far the best way to do that. It's *only when you have enough for your post-60 life* that you can switch to saving for early retirement. And when it comes time to do that switch - you should still use your retirement accounts, because there are several good ways to use them before age 60. Roth conversion ladders & SEPP withdrawals, chiefly.

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>The point of insurance+investment products is you don’t pay income tax when you pull out later in life (where Roth/401k you do). you don't care about taxes paid you care about total return. >You can also pull out of it guilt-free compared to retirement accounts that penalize you before 60. both SEPP and roth ladder make penalties non existent for traditional accounts. roth accounts are somewhat locked save for contributions but roth in general is really mediocre for high income individuals. >And lastly, you build an estate. which is relevant if you plan on having >13/26m net worth when you die. I did mention that, but at best you are getting a tax friendly bond equivalent. >If you get index universal you also don’t lose money on a downmarket, so it outperforms any other account on a losing market (i.e. COVID). see: bond equivalent >Variable Life is more risky though. Imo unless you’re a great trader it’s not really worth, you’re better off just doing index universal and going S&P 500 (or QQQ if you like tech). you are better off doing term and investing the difference in tax advantaged spaces available (401k match ->hsa ->401k to limit/roth ira to limit -> MBDR -> taxable). the only person who typically wins from these policies is the guy selling you them, or someone incapable of budgeting the 'excess funds goes into the market instead of being spent on buying junk' where a 'bill' to the life insurance company gets paid and results in something other than plain consumerism.

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Thanks to all your replies and kind words. I think I have a understanding of my options. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Option 1: Roll old 401k into IRA and take SEPP payments. About 4k/year and reinvest payments into IRA. This is an old 401k I can’t contribute to but is making YTD 24% returns. - Open SPAXX acct with fidelity and put my half my $500/week into this since rolling over 401k will max out roth? Other half ($250) invest in bonds or dividend funds. Ladder the CD money since I already have emergency fund. Option 2: Leave 401k money in account until I know more about my situation or a clearer picture of my health since I seem to have improved significantly. Possibly roll it into new employers funds and contribute. Do the same changes with the rest of funds/accounts. Is the fidelity SPAXX a good idea or investment vehicle? Also if i took out SEPP payments but needed to change and just cash out 401k completely, that would trigger penalties I think? I also could just pay the penalty on 401k and reinvest but that seems like a bad decision. The money market I have now with local bank is only 1.1% so not good.

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SEPP is what will help some (avoid penalties), and you can do that from an IRA but not a 401k.

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Different plans have different rules about whether you can roll money from a 401k into an IRA while you are still employed there ("in-service" rollovers). If your plan allows it, great, roll into a traditional IRA (which has no tax consequences), and then you could set up SEPP out of that IRA, I believe. If your workplace plan doesn't allow it, there should be someone at your employer who is 'in charge of the 401k' and you could talk to them.

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So I would need to talk to Fidelity? Because that’s who manages my 401k, and see if they would roll it over into an IRA before doing the SEPP? I believe when I called Fidelity about withdrawing, they said I could roll into IRA. Would it need to be a roth or traditional IRA? Thanks for this.

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look into SEPP/72(t) https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/substantially-equal-periodic-payments as a possible way to withdraw 401k/IRA money without penalty

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Qualified Dividends are taxable a LTCG rates, which might be 10%. Hard to understand the rest of your post. You can make early distributions without penalty for many reasons. [What Is a Substantially Equal Periodic Payment (SEPP)? (investopedia.com)](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sepp.asp#:~:text=Substantially%20Equal%20Periodic%20Payment%20%28SEPP%29%20is%20a%20method,that%20avoids%20incurring%20IRS%20penalties%20for%20the%20withdrawals.)

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r/investingSee Comment

Read up on SEPP. You can withdraw earlier than 59.5 if needed.

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Depends on what I end up with. If it’s high enough, I can set up an SEPP which gives periodic payments without penalty before retirement age, but we’d have to see 7 figures in the account to feel good about that. Otherwise I’m just gonna buy and hold.

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Thanks! I’m definitely taking a break from 1DTEs for a minute, I haven’t slept all week. I’m generally bearish on the US market for the next 18-24 months, so my holdings will likely be a split between fixed income, gold trusts, and emerging markets. I’ll add a splash of long put leaps for spiciness. Also working on consolidating debt and paying it off ASAP (and considering an SEPP arrangement for the IRA, pending tax professional advice) so my spouse can quit and be full-time with the kids.

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look into SEPP 72t requires lots of careful planning.

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72(t) exception, also called a SEPP. Rules are rigid but it works for those pre 59.5. I plan to use this from 54-59.5

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it’s called a SEEP plan. Substantially Equal Periodic Payment (SEPP) is a method of distributing funds from an individual retirement account (IRA) or other qualified retirement plans (unless you still work for your employer) prior to the age of 59½ that avoids incurring IRS penalties for the withdrawals

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No, accessing a traditional IRA before age 59.5 without a Roth conversion usually incurs a penalty. Consult a financial advisor for options like SEPP or hardship withdrawals.

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