MSOS

bananastock

Checking in! Sold MSOS $4 puts yesterday with a November strike. Luckly I sold all the calls I had that expire in January a few weeks ago. Looking to reload a longer expiration.

Russticale

https://www.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/comments/1wu0tiu/comment/pczni8q/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button My guess yesterday is $4.35 support zone on MSOS.  I think we chop around here and consolidate before moving back up.  Baring any headlines. Im loading up Greenthumb

AmbassadorGloomy8915

Just bought MSOS back at 4.50 premarket after my all my 5$ calls i sold got called, think ill be able to rank up premium selling calls again because we’re probably going back to 4$ range right? Anyone else following the trends and think MSOS will fall more? I just got back in so I don’t know any catalysts upcoming.

Independent-Cress382

I'm in MSOS for $50k, good luck to you brother

UsedState7381

MSOS isn't actively managed like most funds, and in fact, a lot of people have been questioning the rationally of their stock purchases over the years, case in point: We had a sizeable $13M redemption today(outflow), which made the ETF sell several of the names... Yet somehow they still bought trash, AAWH today. https://x.com/junglejava1/status/2105480157184016642 Even in days like this, with money clearly flowing out, they still buy more garbage.

derprondo

Lost a bunch of money on MSOS today and got reorg’d at work into some absolute bullshit. Guess I’ll boof some Tylenol.

BHOmber

I sold my $5 MSOS puts yesterday for 15% and saved myself 2-3k in gains!

Tiaan

So GTBIF was the weakest among the T1s on the way up, and falls harder than the rest of the T1s on the way down. Makes sense I guess. Let me guess, MSOS bought CURLF today which is why it performed so well relative to everything else.

skyplt29

It's down 6.4% Never imagined a day when minus six percent would be considered "pretty unaffected". Yes, this two week stay is bad news...but 13% bad news for MSOS or 16% for Trulieve? Seems rather severe for what amounts to a delay on something we were not even sure of the timeline.

UsedState7381

$4.6 support failed to hold, meaning bullish momentum failed to hold, we are now due to a bearish reversal for a short time, or longer depending on what happens to S3 by mid October. Outflows on MSOS still have to hit the tape, further bringing the sector down along with it. Trulieve's dump alone today is already saying everything here, remember that the ETF will have to sell it to handle the money flowing out + they have to buy more garbage tickers, for some stupid reason. There's also the fact that volume in the previous days were drying up which was giving us the usual slow bleed down on almost every US ticker, after today's this sell off is done, sector should resume it's bleed down further until mid October since there are no other catalysts that matters in-between. In fact, I can see MSOS hitting $4.2 even earlier than Friday. It's a falling knife, almost exactly the same thing happened back in December and after 2024 elections. If all of this, by some reason, bothers you, you can just hide my posts and move on.

skyplt29

MSOS has already hit 10.5M shares traded on a daily average of 4.5M. But this does not appear to be stop loss mining. That would be more dramatic straight down lines. The chart has been a very slow declining slope. Strikes me as though it is a steady selloff. I have been scouring the other media outlets for any news. Other than learning that Howard Lutnick made 250M last year I have not seen anything other than the MM report. I mention this as I sincerely do not see how this can possibly be an election issue. Other than the few of us who are on this subreddit there is little interest in this sector by the investment community, or the public really. This sector gets kicked by 13% in MSOS and somewhere between minus 6% (Cresco) to 12% (Green Thumb) and there is not even an asterisk on CNBC. In my imaginary world Trump has advised his sons to load the truck up just before Blanche announces an arbitrary S3 across the board. On that note, I am still perplexed how S3 became a medical/recreational type of split. Strikes me as though the drug itself is scheduled, not whether it is medical or recreational use. I appreciate there are a few examples of similar usage splits, but seems like it is getting unnecessarily convoluted. I'll just add my decision not to sell today to the long, long list of regrets regarding not selling on any given day since 2021!

skyplt29

I'm long MSOS, and certainly not selling today... But sheesh! This sector just can't seem to catch a break. The DEA definition of S3 is: "A Schedule 3 substance is a drug or chemical with a currently accepted medical use and a moderate-to-low risk of physical dependence, but a potential for moderate-to-high psychological dependence." Seems like cannabis in this category is a no-brainer. Probably why HHS recommended so very long ago. One wonders how ketamine and codeine can be considered S3 but cannabis isn't. The reschedule process stopped making sense long ago, but how difficult must the government make this? This insanity is absolutely stretching my WTF limits. I didn't think it was possible for this to get more fucked up; yet here we are today. Just incredible. I mean, truly incredible.

ShroomGrown

MSOS sucks ass

derprondo

Mango was supposed to legalize the weed, fell for it again award. Guess I'm a $MSOS baggie again.

GuyOnTheCouch420

MSOS never got delisted after it was reviewed. I think once you’re on the exchange they kinda let you stay unless you fuck up reallly really bad. Would erode trust in the exchanges

Russticale

Took a small gain on the overnight msox trade.  Im more curious to sit back and watch the price action today. MSOS better hold the aftermarket reaction low of $4.65.  Might be busting through stop losses on the open.  Hoping to see bulls step in and buy up this dip, the price action the rest of the week will be telling.  

four_twenty_4_20

Predictions on how low we go, and when the turn around begins? Think MSOS will go all the way back down to $4? Unloaded 2500 shares of trul for $11.5 last night. Even if trul being on NYSE spares it from a truly massive dump, I expect there will be good deals available on the otc names until this stay gets resolved. Which I'm sure it will, expeditiously 😆

UsedState7381

MSOS is currently sitting at $4.89 on overnight trading. Doesn't mean much since overnight volumes are very low, but I guess this is remarkable tbh. I was expecting it to be at $4.5 by now.

MSOmoneyshreddr

I know someone else mentioned it, but it's so pathetically hilarious it has to be repeated. The great cannabis Oracle Todd Harrison, who gave such classic tweets as 2021's MSOS rock bottom in at $25, and 2022's 95% chance SAFE gets passed by EOY, once again put his foot in his mouth declaring 2 days ago that he had credible sources S3 confirmation would be announced in 10 days. This guy is such a fucking joke. Can't help himself from spreading wild claims that make him look like such a clown that's never right. No shame.

UsedState7381

Is anyone else here largely not giving a fuck about this like I am? Sure, my heart just skipped a beat, S3 final rule before midterms thesis is dead, and MSOS will easily hit $4 tomorrow or in the following weeks ahead... But, thinking about it...M eh? I'd try to get out of the timber's way if my broker could fill a sale on the after hours, but it doesn't so I'll just hold down all the same. It's not like I haven't seen something like this in cursed industry before...

ComprehensiveKiwi489

MSOS -8% in AH's. TRLV -11%.

UsedState7381

Because it's genuinely confusing, when nothing is happening with these stocks, MSOS tends to bleed down slowly, as of right now, it's holding some pretty good-looking levels while at the same time NOT drilling down. Odd to see.

eyegi99

LEEF finally included in MSOS!

No_Love_Gained

Kudos on spottingvthis and looks like we've hit that support level today albeit with MSOS still holding steady. Any thoughts on where you see this heading from here?

Loose-Dream7901

We’ll see, MSOS is the largest institutional holder. US is a different beast right now, while I don’t like CURA.. they’ll get a lot of hype w fed policy changes about to hit

coopers98

Jebus, can we please? I've been bag holding MSOS for.... a long fucking time...

ftball21

MSOS is cool until you find PSIL

No_Love_Gained

Lol..MSOS a gift that keeps on taking..

rsilv18

I have a theory that may come across as delusional but hear me out. MSOS has been dumping cash into some higher risk / higher return players If that sweet pop ever comes and then those risk plays become overvalued, MSOs will have no choice but to rotate back into GTI while it’s already making new recent highs. Since GTI can buy stock low for longer and then benefit more down the road, this feels almost optimal long-term. Too crazy?

Plus-Parking-7846

Let me rephrase: GTI has the least to lose. Taxes not getting refunded is a negative for all MSOS and should be an immediate price shock to those names because they will still be laden with debt at a time when they should be expanding.

UsedState7381

I mean, today was the announcement and probably the first batch of buybacks. Since the program lasts for a whole year, it's a given that Ben won't be doing a lot of buybacks now to save on dry powder for later. So I think safe to assume that GTBIF closes red tomorrow, specially if MSOS continues to sell it.

derprondo

MSOS steady rising due to weed stocks now being included in indexes after uplisting, with more companies on the way.

BHOmber

We used to get +20-30% MSOS days that would start selling off 1-2 days later. That was also when it had a double digit share price with more eyes on the sector. These pops to 5.50 are getting old. I always play the downside to make a little bit of cash for the underlyings when they eventually settle back into their "no news" ranges.

KAI5ER

I find it ironic that to keep MSOS in the green all they needed to do was not selloff GTI Lets see how long they can resist

KAI5ER

Now imagine if MSOS didn't yesterday. GTBIF would have exploded.

UsedState7381

They have to keep raising cash to cover their fees because soon enough their ETF will be redundant and they will not get inflows anymore. Trulieve and Curaleaf are soaking up most of the volume in the industry, today is going to be Curaleaf being added to VCN. I can't wait until I see GTBIF on my broker app so I can buy it and never touch MSOS again.

Tiaan

3/4 of $GTBIF's volume yesterday was $MSOS selling it off for cash

derprondo

I like how you guys are downvoting me but I made almost 8% on MSOS today.

Richer18

MSOS

skyplt29

My primary concern is the larger economy in general. Anyone who just watched Trump speak at the UN should realize how unhinged the world has become. He stood up there and pretty much berated every other country in the room. Then he told the UN Assembly inflation is under control (yet his Fed appointee just raised interest rates), food is affordable (perhaps he should get behind a grocery cart and push it around a store), and gasoline prices will soon be coming down "like nobody has ever seen before". Lies. All of it just bold face lies. Not sure how much of this smoke and mirrors will persist until the whole facade comes tumbling down. The stock market just cannot keep this mirage in play. I am thrilled to see MSOS up 5% today. Long overdue. But against the backdrop of a world economy on the brink it is hard to know what is in store.

UsedState7381

https://fintel.io/ss/us/msos Only 3,500,000 MSOS shares left to short. Which is expected after such a run up. Here is a good spot for hedging if you play with options.

lifetwoshort

When MSOS hits $10, I will likely be a millionaire from the underlinings. Maybe even $9

Flipside68

MSOS hits $12 and Im a millionaire - one can dream

UsedState7381

This should be bringing some very needed stability and forward-looking positive valuations to Trulieve and MSOS since it's too exposed to it. Once the same thing happens to GTI and Curaleaf, that will be when we can safely say that this is a worthwhile sector to hold. In the meantime, we will continue the pops and fades.

UsedState7381

And Trulieve had over 12M shares traded today too. By comparison, MSOS only had a little more than 5M. I guess the indexes are moving in already.

antonyto680

Hmm interesting how low volume day for LPs and high volume for MSOS, does anybody have an idea why?

four_twenty_4_20

Odds MSOS finishes at $5 +/- 2%?

Cool_Ad_5101

Read about how stocks on the OTC are actually purchased through MSOS it’s by synthetics swaps 

KAI5ER

A certain MSOS has been dumping green thumb for awhile.

Russticale

MSOS needs to hold $4.75.  Break that support and we head to $4.30

Russticale

Glas breaking 8.00, its pretty thin until $7.20, could move to that next support easily is MSOS continues down.

Russticale

Thanks man, happy to share.   Ive been bearish since 8/24 week, we would have broken down on the friday that week until Doug Kass tweeted with percision timing when the stock was testing support.  That rallied us another two weeks apparently and I got sucked into bear traps admittedly.  Made it back this week since we finally broke down.  August was like 25 green days, un heard of rally in our sector as you know. To answer the question we have two monthly lows on MSOS at about $4.30 from May/June.  I think MSOS will come down to $4.35 pretty quick here.  Next week is OPEX where options expire and repositioning happens, so itll be interesting to see if we do hang our around $5 for one more week.  After OPEX 9/18 you’ll see different price action as the open options interest is less of a market driver.  Hope that makes sense, curious to see if we just dump on Monday.  Friday’s close on MSOS daily candles looks very bearish.  Were due to consolidate and chop around until the next headline.  No way we break into a new trading range without a catalyst. Im fading this with $5 msos puts, gotta go 100+ days out to avoid theta decay. 

skyplt29

I would feel better about buying more shares if I knew what was behind a close to 20% drop in the last week or so. I can find nothing that suggests something is going on here. The entire sector is getting hit (MSOS at 4.80) but not nearly to the level that Tilray is. It's hard to know where the bottom lies on this one.

skyplt29

My plan to recoup my losses in MSOS is to vote Republican in November and get a five thousand dollar bonus. Iran will be all sorted out by then, gas prices will plummet, and everyone will line up behind S3 and SAFER. Good times lie just around the corner if everyone gets on board the Trump train and votes Republican. What an absolute tragic fucking farce. No wonder this sector is lifeless!

UsedState7381

Well it was nice seeing MSOS above $5...

derprondo

Maybe those religious nutters are on to something and if I speak in tongues then my stonks will moon. Mecca lecca hi mecca hiney ho AVAV Shamalama ding dong Nokia sing song My humps my humps my humps my lovely MSOS humps

Russticale

Hey it could be MSOS even selling it. Analyst came out with a sell rating last week - small analyst but still shows.

Russticale

Thats a good point.  Dougie kass rally two friday’s ago had a ridiculous response.  Dude kept the entire rally alive with thier tweet release as MSOS was about to break down and punch a new low for the week.

skyplt29

Breaking news! MSOS nears 5 dollars...again. News at 11.

four_twenty_4_20

MSOS is already up ~25% since the end of July. Plenty of profits for traders to take. It's always sell the news in this sector until 1 day its not. I expect that could be the final rule, which is still a ways off.

Tunmer

MSOS is holding above $5!

Bl1nk9

Maybe. Holding my og position that I have had since buying in at 50 way back when in a retirement account. Have it down to $18 avg, but only a few hundred shares. MSOS can have its place. We have etf’s for everything, and should have one for canna. But based in a more conventional strategy for those that want exposure without figuring out the names.

between3-20charcterz

MSOS, with rescheduling on the horizon it will stop 280e from holding cannabis companies back financial while also opening doors for financial instructions to be able to directly purchase shares for cannabis companies instead of relying on swaps. Trlv already uplisted to the NYSE and Curfaleaf and Green Thumbs seem to be the next to uplist

SailMaleficent6183

MSOS ETF got rid of its $10 million deficit by selling Curaleaf, Trulieve and Green Thumb so at least that won't hold us down next week. Have a great weekend!

volckerwasright

Yep! When was the last time MSOS had real bid support, maybe August 2025?

volckerwasright

This'll be 12 straight trading days where MSOS traded within 2% of $5....have to say I didn't see that coming. Getting cooked by theta on my 9/18 puts and calls, but I think next week will be decisive one way or another

skyplt29

Sorry about that. It's been this MSOS caught in a protracted doldrums. But indeed, likely better to just quietly persevere.

skyplt29

I am getting ready to finally move on. The opportunity cost is painfully real. A few weeks back I was looking at SpacEx as a place to put my "risk" investment money (verses weedstocks). It was trading about 100USD at the time and my sense was it would recover to at least its IPO price. Chose to stay in this sector instead. Simply did not have the courage to accept a major loss in this sector and go elsewhere. Today I see SpacEx at 150USD and most stocks in this sector...dead. Tomorrow we will be uncertain if MSOS closes slightly above or slightly below 5USD. There is real money to be made elsewhere. Apologies to those of you who have been saying this for several years now.

Russticale

The multi day rally already happened.  All august we have been churning up.   Theres room and MSOS sits above the 200 ema by $0.46 so we are still okay for now but if we cross that on the daily candles, watch out.  

Russticale

I appreciate your perspective and agree.   Theres a LOT of overhead supply.  Market knows reform is coming and algos will still bite on news headlines, but its going to be a battle to move up and retrace only 50% when consolidating back down.  Normal stocks have this type of movement. I see the multiple hurdles and lengthy timeline long term.  For now I can see a world where this current extended August rally fades.   When traders come back after Labor day, we might bleed out until we get the recommendation from the judge.  For downside protection, I like Jan 27 $5 puts on MSOS.

four_twenty_4_20

Odds MSOS sells another chunk of trlv at the end of day? Its still $4M+ in the hole...

Russticale

Oh yall talking during the regular session. That could have been the MSOS etf dumping 300k shares of Trulieve.

TCNNF_Moon-_

I saw that nonsense as well. Thinking maybe an MSOS sell or someone with a lot of shares

Russticale

That end of day dump from Trulieve.  Will the ‘buy the dippers’ still be around tomorrow?   I’ve lost touch with our market, not understanding the price action of MSOS with TRLV being listed NYSE and the etf no longer owning swaps for their largest holding…. Could see something like we haven’t before.  Im sideline for now, would rather chase.

antonyto680

MSOS just can’t break $5

KAI5ER

I would argue they will. Hedge funds are more calculated than us retail and if the juice is no longer worth the risk of the squeeze then they will move on. Hell, MSOS wont even be needed in its current state once ETFs can hold the stock directly.

skyplt29

Hey Chronic. Hope all is well. Glad to see MSOS back above 5USD...I really was not expecting that given the market. But green is green. Love to see big news one day...but after years of waiting it feels as though the carrot at the end of the stick has grown rotten.

Thumbszilla

What the heck is going on with MSOS holding GLAS?

Senpai_Slime

Has anyone else been keeping their eyes on MSOS? seems pretty reliable for swing trading below the 5$ mark

Russticale

So the MSOS etf had a 10mil cash inbalance and sold 500k shares of Greenthumb Friday.  Slow clap for the etf managers

UsedState7381

MSOS sold 500k shares of green thumb today, in what I can only assume that is to finally try to offset the ETF's negative balance, given that it's suffering outflows due to lesser market demand(now that Trulieve and Glass House are uplisted). Over a million shares of Green Thumb were sold by the ETF this week. This is fucking ridiculous. https://x.com/junglejava1/status/2093530465999184040

Russticale

Dougie Kass get out my ass. Of course he times it when MSOS is testing daily and weekly support level.  

skyplt29

Could this sector be any more crooked? MSOS closes at 4.9982. Not hard to know where the most money was to be made on the plus or minus side of 5USD. For the love of god, let's get some S3, S4, S5 or maybe even deschedule news! Good weekend all.

Ienjoymodels

Swing trading is how you make money in this sector. In late 2023 it was MSOS buy under 8 sell the news. After the Trump election debacle it's buy under 5 sell the news.

volckerwasright

Going to be something to see a major inflow print 2 days after a major outflow print. Just normal MSOS things

derprondo

MSOS trying its best to save my port today. Lot's of uplistings on the horizon, probably a safe play until rescheduling is final.

ChallahdaySzn

MSOS ! Over 5!!!

volckerwasright

Dougie pump Dougie Kass @DougKass @thestreetpro We have moved to super size $MSOS and individual cannabis stocks in the belief that a favorable rescheduling announcement will come shortly. AdvisorShares Pure US Cannabis ETF MSOS $4.89 +1.24%

TCNNF_Moon-_

Feel like MSOS might want to close above 5$. I am also down to enjoy some power hour

Loose-Dream7901

Sure exaggeration was real, point remains 1 MSOS top operator has as much pure play cannabis revenue that the top 5 Canadian companies combined. Ie Sundial/Tilray have blended alc sales. Market is bigger, margins are better even with 70% tax rate and the companies are fundamentally stronger.

Loose-Dream7901

It’s already transparent for more of the companies. IPO wise most of the private operators can’t compete with large MSOS. Specifically TRLV / GTII cash hoards are massive. I’d expect this to grow on capital appreciation of share price or increased M&A

ChallahdaySzn

Fellas, can we push MSOS over 5 today ??

Russticale

Tomorrow I see MSOS either chopps around and hold’s today’s low at $4.76, or it breaks that and we plummet.  Pardon the bearish take, but weed stocks are weedstocks until proven otherwise

skyplt29

The old me would see MSOS sitting at 4.80USD right now and think it would be a good move to buy some as it was "just over 5" yesterday and S3 is on the horizon. The new me has me thinking "it can go lower". I tend to think S3 will happen (not delineated, just S3 for cannabis). It's made no sense to separate medical and recreational. The big unknown is what (if anything) this does for rec. S3 is still not legal to sell without a prescription. I see something similar to Viagra here; fill out an online questionnaire and get a prescription. A lot of second tier Doctors and Pharmacists could soon be employed by MSOs.

volckerwasright

Saw lots of people on twitter saying "MSOS outflow = bottom", so I went and looked at the last few 7/30: bottom and trend reversal 7/9: continuation 5/21: bottom, 3 days before trend reversal 4/30: continuation 4/22: blow off top

Blistorious

Big LOL.. MSOS fuckery year in year out.And oh oh.. what a surprise the scammer dan sells GTI the most. The day that etf closes would be a good day.just a vehicle for the arb traders.

Loose-Dream7901

They just need S3 for adult use, which is on the brink of happening now. It’s also why CuraLeaf has yet to uplist. Glasshouse is primarily seeding the illicit hemp market and Trulieve spun off its assets. It’s gonna happen people just need to be patient, CuraLeaf also trading in a similar pattern. Trulieve has been getting most of the inflows and carrying MSOS

Fifteen_inches

$MSOS is gonna print when schedule 3 hits, if it ever hits

volckerwasright

Put on a straddle here with 9/18 MSOS puts and calls, I think we're due for some volatility

theduderino38

$5 for MSOS!