MSOS

Charming_Yellow5867

Buy MSOS leaps and hold for the run up as people start talking about up-listing.

UsedState7381

I do not believe that Green Thumb would dilute, however, I cannot say the same for the other companies under MSOS that could make the requirements to Uplisting

EntropyAccount

According to Google AI max pain today for MSOS is 4.50$. This isn't a prediction, but wouldn't be surprised to see it get crushed into the close.

UsedState7381

This is why I believe that Uplisting with be a sell the news event too. I'm fully expecting several of these companies to dilute themselves to oblivion once they are listed on NASDAQ and NYSE. Doesn't matter, I'll sell MSOS and only stick with Green Thumb when that happens.

Fearless_fx

I’ve been trying to narrow down MSOS with high executive ownership to figure out long term buys where I may be safe(r) from future dilution. So far I see Jason Wild at Terrascend has 30%, Boris Jordan at Cura has 17% and Ben Kovler at Green Thumb has 6.3% but his super voting shares give him full control. Am I missing any?

Charming_Yellow5867

SPY is red and MSOS is green 🪴🚀🚀

rockum

We must be looking at different ETFs. MSOS was trending down from the 2024 election until July and then dropped drastically after mid-November.

Charming_Yellow5867

People have been telling me that MSOS is going down, or that it's erratic, etc. Look at the trend since November. It's a smooth line up, with a small pump surrounding the EO news followed by a return to the trend on top. It's not that erratic. We're going up boys 🪴🚀 And when we start to hear news about rescheduling being finalized and companies up-listing... 🚀🚀🚀

Charming_Yellow5867

I want to short MSOS and get my account liquidated when up-listing sends it to Mars.

Charming_Yellow5867

Ignoring the pump and pullback around the executive order news, MSOS has a nice trend up since November. 🪴🚀

Charming_Yellow5867

Ignoring the pump and pullback around the executive order news, MSOS has a nice trend up since November. 🪴

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS 🪴🚀🚀

Frozen_Shades

Early year stonk picks I'm thinking about adding. MSOS and CNC.

Brilliant_Goose7265

New year, New MSOS 🚀

Charming_Yellow5867

Looks like MSOS is still grinding up.

Charming_Yellow5867

Anything touched by orange or melon. DJT, MSOS, TSLA

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS puts, calls?

DA2710

MSOS

Many_Easy

Forgiving 280e argument is absolutely crazy. IRS will collect amounts due plus penalties and interest. Sure, there is a possibility of some negotiations but expecting forgiveness is just crazy. Trulieve desperately needs Florida recreational. Without out, probably game over for them with all their debt and taxes owed. Trulieve is also being propped up by MSOS.

rockum

That sucks bro. As a sub, we really should make it more clear than MSOS is terrible and expensive. Just buy GTBIF.

volckerwasright

Eh, this is just someone who told ChatGPT to describe an MSOS short squeeze. The signals outlined in this - the OI, the call/put ratio - were present on other days and led to nothing. If we get clarity regarding S3, we'll pop, but be wary of any trade predicated on a short squeeze.

UsedState7381

Nothing of this is "fucking with my head" LMAO, I've never been more comfortable with these stocks than now that we got the president to sign the S3 EO. I just want MSOS to be cheaper now because I want to buy more and flip it on the next pump for some quick money(since Uplisting isn't coming anytime soon). Thank you for the life advice I didn't ask for, though.

LaserAid69

I bought 100 shares of MSOS on Monday and feeling good about it 

quiltball

I think Trulieve will be the ultimate winner and this years price action reflects that. From my experience and testing different companies products, Trulieve seems to have a better handle on growing decent weed at scale than any other MSO. It's also massively outperforming MSOS and the LP's on price action this year. I am betting big on Kim. MSOS YTD: +25% Trulieve YTD: +66%

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS hasn't fallen to previous lows since the pump. Is this a dip I should buy, or one last chance to get in with puts?

Kind-Idea-324

That’s incorrect. Most of it is in swaps to minimize regulatory risk. This shows up as cash on some websites, but they are different. A Canadian company holds the actual stock and MSOS holds an equivalent in cash for the eventual ownership transfer upon legalization. There are fees for this service in the meantime, but the deal allows them to list on US exchanges.

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS puts? It looks like it's trending up recently but I've learned by now that it always does the opposite.

newgrounds

Wtf? That ETF mostly keeps their money in... dollars. https://etfdb.com/etf/MSOS/#holdings

bananastock

After reading that Twitter perspective and talking with Google's premium AI, I see their gamma squeeze theory, and it's possible. However, if we don't get MSOS above 5, it probably won't happen. What is more interesting is I'm now 100% convinced the ETF is the reason these stocks can't sustain a run. The ETF and swap structure act like a liquidity sponge. The biggest benefactor of this is......advisor shares as their AUM grows. Swap providers don't have to hedge 1:1 and they don't have to hedge immediately. Between unit creations and swaps, it provides a dampening effect. Uplifting is the only thing that can fix the problem.

benderok37

All Canadian companies red (CGC, ACB, HITI, OGI, TLRY, SNDL) yet, American MSOS green, big green...  Any explanation? 

LaserAid69

Bought some MSOS Monday and it went up today. Yay! 

Mr_Snow___

4.08 - Jan 2. 67 cents (as of this post) for the year minus management fees. We'll get 'em next year, Tiger! [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSOS/history/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSOS/history/)

BHOmber

lol MSOS was 5.50 in October

Bravadette

Why is MSOS doing that

skyplt29

Volume is still relatively low, but significant percent gain on MSOS and underlying MSOs.

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS grinding up 🪴🚀

OHto30

$MSOS - $490K Call buyer (30 minutes ago)

No_Love_Gained

I have always mentioned that MSOS facilities shorting for their underlyings albeit inadvertently by design (will give them the benefit of doubt), and the swap providers along with a few select hedge funds can easily manufacture OPEX outcomes to their advantage. They've become a bane to this industry the last few years.

BHOmber

Which is honestly a good thing until the "normie" side of retail figures out who's who going into/after uplisting (could still be years from now). I hate that a fuckass fund like MSOS basically has a stranglehold over the US sector's price action on most trading days.

rockum

The GTBIF component of MSOS isn't as large as it once was.

IllCamel5907

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've noticed very recently in the last several trading sessions that GTI seems to have slightly decoupled from MSOS as far as price action is concerned. I mean, they are both down today but I'm used to seeing them trade almost in lockstep.

UsedState7381

And it literally does not introduce anything new that most people involved in this matter already didn't knew about. This has been discussed to no-end this year, the president can't unilaterally reschedule any substance under the CSA, the EO is merely him telling the DOJ to do it and putting his name on it to take credit for it(since the process was stalled for months). But oh well, if MSOS fills the gap, I'm buying a little more.

Hungry-Brain-3287

Show of hands those who have been wrecked by MSOS on the back of news that "rescheduling any day now"?

Cactuscouch757

i own 9 shares of MSOS at 55.20 a share. Good luck OP.

CUbuffGuy

I also own MSOS but it’s a 5-10 year bag I’m afraid

AthleteNerd

Two different companies won't ever trigger a wash sale since they cannot be identical. Two different ETFs also will not unless the index being followed are exactly the same. (SPY/VOO = wash MSOS/MJ =no wash)

mylezman

I was burned the most this year when investing in **GDXU** *(Gold LETF 3X)* due to buying in at yearly ATH and **MSOX** *(MSOS LETF 2X)* when buying the news rather than the rumor; well I've learned from my mistakes and considering inversing all you regard's who keep commenting **SLV**; anyone else placing PUTS on SLV or investing in **ZSL** *(-2x the daily performance of silver, as measured by the price of COMEX silver futures contracts)???*

yayahi

MSTR calls MSOS calls Sell TSLA, NVDA, AMD calls META puts (for the culture)

PatientAd9394

MSOS to the moon? 🙈🙈🙈

Ryanz_ok

There’s also YOLO for cannabis. MSOS is US based companies and YOLO is international.

been__

Huh do you see this being better than something like the MSOS etf?

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS was green today even though SPY was flat. 🪴💵

UsedState7381

Rumours circulating on Twitter that Musk started a MSOS position. LOL 😆 

softboiledjadepotato

Just for the hell of it, kinda wanna go large MSOS DD-vibes

UsedState7381

What's your average on MSOS?

Cactuscouch757

Open net gain: CBSTF: -93% CRLBF: -61% MSOS: -48% CRON: -18% MO: +25% This sector has really stunted my investing career.

Charming_Yellow5867

The next MSOS run up is about to start.

yayahi

I’ve been watching MSOS since 2020, before that, MJ since 2018. I entered around $8, average costed down, and got out recently for a little profit. I just very recently after that big down move started to buy more, very slowly. Anyone with options will get absolutely smoked. Weed stocks will always grind lower before u capitulate & then move up. Buy MSOS shares, a small amount- no more then 1% of your net worth and don’t look at that shit. It’s the only way to make actual money on this shit. Your options- I don’t care if they’re out to 2027. You will lose money on that shit

Charming_Yellow5867

Buy long dated calls on MSOS and wait for the next big run. Sell and buy puts right before the news drops. 🍸

Charming_Yellow5867

There are going to be tons of opportunities coming up to ride more hype pumps on MSOS.

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS's violent pump on hype and subsequent dump on news was overblown. MSOS is gonna start gently trending up now that Trump has shown he's serious about pushing rescheduling through and conditions gradually improve.

blcxk

$MSOS

Euro347

MSOS

germanator86

MSOS. Weed to the moon. We are due.

Brilliant_Goose7265

MSOS March Calls. Green squeeze coming.

Blitzdog416

For 2026, I'm sticking with my late Q4 2024 thru Q4 2025 winners. In order: 1) FNMA/FMCC 2) ASTS 3) NBIS 4) RKLB *Watching to see if MSOS starts to kickoff Q2 2026*

EntropyAccount

My entry into the sector was before MSOS was created. I hold 1/2 the shares I bought in GTI from like 6 yrs ago. Ive tried to invest more when things were getting talked about SAFE, StATES, BIDENs EO to review S3… but everytime MSOS goes lower and I sell before I loose too much. I absolutely suck at trading. The money I lost in MSOS over the years trying to catch “the” catalyst is substantial, and I’m talking like 10-15% losses each time for years adds up. I’m here cuz 1- I’ve always been here, and 2-I’m in that spot where I’m coming close to going into the red on MSOS around 3$. I’m just warning people it’s the fucking same thing over and over … until it aint

Charming_Yellow5867

MSOS's violent pump on hype and subsequent dump on news was overblown. MSOS is gonna start gently trending up now that Trump has shown he's serious about pushing rescheduling through and conditions gradually improve.

EntropyAccount

The law hasn't changed, and it might not (there's a chance they blame this and that). Trump signed a document, he did his part. Since Feb '21 the entire sector has been in decline. There has been ZERO federal reform since then, and this EO isn't reform. Most companies are generating losses, and only a few (like maybe 2 or 3) are truley FCF+ after taxes paid. A few more are FCF+ but hold tax liability on the balance sheet. The revenue growth is basically stalled. Look at the acutal P/E ratios of these companies. They aren;t cheap, especially since projected growth isnt much. What part about these makes you bullish on "macro"? Since Feb '21 - Cole memo removed, bank custody removed - so if anything it's actually gotten more restrictive. There will undoubtably be an explosion of optimism if S1->S3 officially. Can that overcome strategic short selling, especially when hunting to expire ITM calls worthless (I have absolutely no idea)? How do you "invest" in this sector? It's in perpetual decline. You can only trade it. To even consider the tide is turning, MSOS needs to clear 11.40 to break weekly market structure. Anything below that is still HTF bearish trend, or at best within a long-ass accumulation range. Nothing so far has changed the HTF bearish structure since 2021. Is this bullish macro in the room with us?

Many_Easy

Along with longer term investing, Noah was also discussing DCA during his TDR interview this week. Seems quite hypocritical when you look at the MSOS trading.

Euro347

MSOS popping

hambone_83

That's definitely the smarter way to play it - but where is the fun in that right? LOL Feel free to laugh at me in June when the MSOS doesn't even get into sniffing distance of $10 and I'm sweating on what to do

randomusername0000

over 3.5M volume on that last 15 minute candle for MSOS.

katzecatgato

MSOS too

Visual-Try-8081

LOL. I remember reading a comment here where someone said MSOS investors were like crackheads. Can’t blame him.

Tiaan

> $MSOS > President Trump has directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to issue a final ruling on marijuana rescheduling by the end of January, according to two sources close to the president who spoke with The Marijuana Herald https://x.com/OracleNYSE/status/2003553888775889088 So it looks like the market does actually care about rescheduling getting finalized

OX45-Tall

At least MSOS saved some of that $85 million of inflows to buy this dip right? Oh wait never mind they blew it all at the peak….

ShartSqueeze

Bro.You should be thankful. MSOS is up 6% on the YTD.

Tiaan

But my dude, MSOS is up 10% ytd on rescheduling news! According to Noah Hammond CEO of Advisorshares, that's a marvelous feat that us retail idiots should be thankful for!

Many_Easy

Performance vs S&P 500 (Key **AdvisorShares Funds**) 1) DWUS – Dorsey Wright FSM U.S. Core ETF • Since Inception (annualized): • DWUS: ~14.66% • S&P 500: ~15.16% → Underperformed the S&P 500 by ~0.5 %/yr over its history (since Dec 2019).  • Multi-year comparisons: • 1-year: DWUS ~9.25% vs S&P 500 ~15.00% • 3-yr: DWUS ~16.58% vs S&P 500 ~20.57% • 5-yr: DWUS ~10.97% vs S&P 500 ~15.28% → Consistently trailing the benchmark across periods.  ⸻ 2) CWS – Focused Equity ETF • Since Inception (annualized): • CWS: ~12.47% • S&P 500: ~15.41% → Underperformed the S&P 500 by ~3%/yr since 2016.  • Multi-year comparisons: • 1-yr: CWS often below S&P 500 • 3-yr & 5-yr: CWS returns are lower than the S&P across typical intervals → Trailed the benchmark consistently.  ⸻ 3) AADR – Dorsey Wright ADR ETF • Available broad performance sources show positive annualized returns, but benchmark comparisons consistently indicate moderate outperformance vs relevant international indexes rather than the S&P 500—i.e., it tends to trail the U.S. large-cap benchmark over long periods compared to S&P 500 returns which have benefited from strong U.S. equity performance.  ⸻ 4) Thematic & Alternative ETFs For most other AdvisorShares funds (e.g., cannabis themes like YOLO, MSOS, short/hedge/sector plays like HDGE, DWSH): • Returns are significantly lower than the S&P 500’s long-term average • Many have negative or flat returns since inception • This contrast is striking because the S&P 500 has returned mid-teens annualized over many recent periods (e.g., 10+ years).  ⸻ 📈 S&P 500 Benchmark Returns To provide context for comparison: • The S&P 500’s annualized total return over long periods (e.g., 10 years or more) has historically been around ~10–15%/yr depending on the timeframe.  • Current recent data (as of late 2025) shows strong index performance: • 1-yr: ~15–17% • 3-yr: ~20–25% • 5-yr: ~15–16% → These figures serve as a baseline benchmark for active fund comparison.  ⸻ 📌 Overall Comparison Summary ✅ Active AdvisorShares ETFs have generally underperformed the S&P 500 index over comparable timeframes • Even the better performing equity strategies (like DWUS and CWS) trail the benchmark when annualized since inception.  Source: Chat GPT

bananastock

Nice. I just bought 2027 calls on MSOS. Hope we get some action before then.

Many_Easy

He’s not a shill or a fanboy. He just happens to like a particularly company just a lot of people like Cresco, Green Thumb, or MSOS. You’re a newbie and haven’t been around long enough to see that Skypit is a standup guy even if you disagree with his comments or investment style.

Veganlightbody

stop with the fantasy whining. MSOS was at 3.42 in November and is now 4.54

nassau_rip

Held through aths as well, this crash didn’t phase me at all. I’m holding for either a zero or MSOS hitting 15-20 so I can get some money back.

Many_Easy

Noah Hamman didn’t call retail “unintelligent traders.” I don’t like MSOS but I didn’t hear him say “unintelligent.” To be brutally honest, most retail cannabis investors on Reddit are extremely ignorant and lazy. For some reason, many believe they can time markets and be successful day traders. The reality is that most are greedy and don’t research. I did find Noah Hamman’s mannerisms quite the tell. It was almost as if he was humoring us and playing dumb. I do agree with his take that we don’t know if there was a coordinated manipulation due to a lack of evidence. Possible - yes. Proven - no. I also agree with Noah Hamman’s advice to be a long term investor despite the fact that MSOS trades in and out frequently. Seems very contradictory. Going back to Hamman’s mannerisms - seems anecdotally very similar to my prior experiences when I was being conned, lied to, manipulated, gaslighted etc. Hamman didn’t come across as very sincere in my opinion.

heliumbox

I mean its obviously algo trading set to dump on something, maybe it was just set to dump on anything, that doesn't really scream illegal to me but clearly the power of capital at work. Look at how much LPs lagged the move down, they trade ridiculous amounts of dollar volume. MSOS and especially the underlying are illiquid af and lead the initial collapse down. Once the move was confirmed on MSOS it was only a matter of time before LPs got spooked and causing the next leg down for the whole sector.

Many_Easy

I wasn’t trying to be smug or rub anything in. I only hedged/sold about 10%-15% of my Tilray Brands holding up into the EO. That means I held 85%-90% through the post-EO collapse. I did sell all my Curaleaf holdings in days leading up to the EO, but that was due to me finding out that the MSOS ETF held most of their fund in them (about 26%) and there was a possibility that they would dump them. It was coincidental that I sold Curaleaf just before the EO and MSOS ETF dumps. As far as insinuating that I was smug/rubbing it in - it only applies to idiots that chase returns, buy after 30%-60% run-up due to greed and/or ignorance. I have little compassion for people gambling and then whining when they lose. And right now, we know that people that just bought at recent highs are panicking and selling now. They were literally hyping a few days ago and are now spreading FUD. As far as Tilray Brands, I continue to engage in disciplined DCA and have bought back some of the shares I sold before the EO signing. **I don’t try to time the market and I definitely ignore your advice because it usually disingenuous and ad hominem.**

Voaracious

Up about 20% this year. Meh. Could be worse. Made bank on NEM but then sold too early. Could have made more. Shorted TSLA on five separate occasions. Four times took profit. One time got rocked. Came out even on my bad habit. Biggest loser was MSOS. Totally mistimed it. 

PeanutButter91

MSOS -6.66%. How fitting.

UsedState7381

I'm waiting for January now, we have seen this movie before, this capitulation will keep going for a few more days until it settles trading sideways. I'm looking for $3.20 point for MSOS

UsedState7381

$3.20 on MSOS? If so, yes.

_pout_

Drill baby drill, MSOS shitstock. Glad to have hit the eject button on time.

Visual-Try-8081

I get it. All the people who sold at the top, and those who shorted MSOS like there’s no tomorrow, want this “S3 is not enough” narrative to succeed. And they’re succeeding. Retail is being played, once more.

Visual-Try-8081

I thought things were going to change in this sector after the S3 EO. I think many of us thought that way. Just a few weeks ago, we were craving an S3 EO. MSOS pumped to over $6 simply because Trump posted a CBD video. But now that we actually have the S3 EO, MSOS dumps? Make it make sense. After Thursday’s blatant manipulation, I decided to trim my MSOS position and start buying the underlying stocks instead. Right now, I’m focused only on GTBIF, Tilray, and some HITI. See you next year when the next rumor hits.

No_Cell6708

MSOS still up 35% in a month.

noobstockinvestor

MSOS was trading at \~$3.8 USD before the leak - we're sitting at $4.63 USD today. We have almost given up all the EO gains. Incredible.. Sticking with the plan and holding CGC/TLRY and building out green thumb. Cannabis is currently 6% of my portfolio so the swings are not as violent as they used to be. During Biden era when HHS said they recommend S3, my portfolio was closer to 40-50% cannabis. After the election dump, I created strict rules to follow and one of them is no single sector over 7% weighting. Trading around a core has really helped me mitigate risk/secure profits and I suggest everyone here to consider doing the same. Even with MSOS sitting near lows again, my cannabis portfolio is near the highs we saw during the pump to $11. What really fucked me in 2021-2023 was believing politicians, having no risk management and diamond handing garbage stocks.

UsedState7381

Same thoughts here, but it still sucks to see MSOS might be heading back down to $4 again because of the ridiculous nature of OTC markets that breeds manipulation. No one outside of this industry wants to dip their toes in thanks to that massive dump last week, and I can't blame them.

Soon_SG

Where's your position? If not, please ban. One brave soul made a 150K bet on MSOS for S3 and lost. Would you be the second one?

Hogfisher

The cannabis sector has been heavily shorted in general. Additionally, overall volumes are very low and the underlying stocks in MSOS are traded on the OTC. This makes it possible for weird and unpredictable moves with less efficiency that you would see in a higher volume stock that trades on the NYSE or other major exchange. My opinion: the executive order to enact the previously recommended schedule 3 change is monumental medically and also for tax purposes. It will also make free cash flow and profits per share the reality for many US multi-state operators. There was no reason for a sell off from a fundamentals side. I’m not sure if it was manipulated, but the downward move does not make sense with regard to future profits. On the other hand, some could say that the executive order was more limited in scope than expected. He spoke more about CBD and research than creating a federal or state-based medical market. If the markets are responding to that “disappointment,” then that could explain that downward trend after the EO was signed. It certainly was a sell the news event, but anecdotes are not an explanation. The biggest thing that retail or individual cannabis sector investors are waiting for is the flood of institutional investments that will drastically increase volumes in MSO market caps. However, it is not clear if this will be allowed with the schedule three change. Signing the executive order and enactment of the schedule three change hopefully will allow in institution investments and possible acquisition of the MSOs. There is a possibility that the big catalyst will actually be the SAFE Banking Act. Schedule 3 or SAFE will likely be the catalyst for much of the growth over the next 3 to 5 years and will hopefully help with uplisting to a high-volume exchange. That will also help decrease the likelihood of strange, large swings in price that are hard to explain.

MidWestFineese

All of this talk regarding fraud and manipulation has had to have gotten back to the players who are doing it. I have never seen this many posts on X since MSOS was created. The benefit it all of this talk and pressure, and news eyes on thr sector because of it, could have a large impact as they may flip the script, go long and help (drive prices up) moving forward. There has never been this much attention to this sector. All good news for us.