MSOS

Stfucarl12

I'm not going to tell you these MSOS shares will increase in value, or even hold their current value. The truth is, you bought 'em because you like 'em. They have value to you. That's what matters. Love, GTBIF bagholder

Ordinary_News_6455

You lost me at MSOS

MonsterDrunk

I like that MSOS investors favorite journalist is that Martinelli guy because he just churns out fake feel good stories. dumbest group of investors in history

volckerwasright

The MOU is only 3 weeks old, there's not an equivalent event to compare it to. MSOS is up ~25% since the war started but thats a function of sector-specific catalysts

No_Love_Gained

This structure is not new/recent and has been in place for a long while now (since Nova acquisitin), so if it's a risk then it was already baked in a while ago. Imo the current price action is likely aligned with US MSOS price action. I think they've have decent exposure in Florida and it'll fly once these short headwinds (ALJ and dc Circuit court hearings are complete)... Btw I am not a big believer in Sndl and if anything I dislike Zach's business approach (shark lending and buying distressed assets for pennies on the dollar without looking at underlying businesses and the integration challenges that come with it). This is just a swing trade play for a name that's almost near it's 52 week lows and has some tangible catalysts on the horizon that likely haven't been baked in. Glta

Flipside68

lol, you don’t, light weight. For real though - you think only idiots buy at this range? SP for MSOS and MSOX are looking promising.

AmbassadorGloomy8915

MSOS is what i sell covered calls and puts on but I would prob make more money just selling on pumps and buying on dumps instead of selling options lowkey

UsedState7381

You want to look at $4.2 support level for MSOS, we should be testing that tomorrow. If that breaks, buy under $4 instead.

MatrixOrigin

SAM's BS testimony spooking the markets? lol Sabet is for sure climaxing at the sight of $MSOS

skyplt29

FWIW, for me, this S3 was the final catalyst in a long line of carrots at the end of the stick resulting in subsequent rug pulls. I am still of a mind that should these hearings eventually have a positive outcome we will start to see these companies begin making concrete moves...inclusive of major consolidation and M&As. MSOS down close to 8 percent today is baffling. So I guess I am not all the bright!

UsedState7381

We have average daily volume on MSOS by now with a over -7% drop, on no news whatsoever. Erased almost all gains from past week and EOD shenanigans didn't even started yet. Ridiculous.

ComprehensiveKiwi489

Really don't get the MSOS drop - If it were about the hearing, then why is TRLV (who is mainly medical) down the most out of everyone?

skyplt29

My only sliver of green is Charlotte's Web. I sold GreenThumb not that long ago for 11.17CDN (average was 11CDN). Felt a bit of FOMO at the time...but there it is down over 6% today. About the same as MSOS. This is a harsh sector to be in. What is most frustrating for me is I am almost sure S3 Rec will come out of these hearings. But these companies sure are not trading that way.

volckerwasright

1.5m total volume on 3 red 1min candles for MSOS, feels ominous

UsedState7381

Not a few days ago I thought we wouldn't see MSOS going back to sub $4.5 until the end of the hearings, now we very close to going there again, even though now we have Trulieve's CEO not selling her stocks anymore, and Glass House uplisted. Amazing.

RemWellCo

This time is different 😵‍💫🫨. These companies have operated under razor thin margins thanks to 280E tax code. Rescheduling removes that and allows these companies to double to triple their margins. States on the fringe of rec / med can open up as well. Investors are already starting to enter the space. Look at MSOS on the 1 year (yes I know, 5-year is bad) but this rescheduling is the biggest catalyst ever to the cannabis space

Russticale

It’s America’s Birthday! Time to give cannabis reform and Americans what they deserve.   MSOS did print higher lows all week.  Looking good boys, the bulls are out there patiently waiting.  Charts are ready for a break out.  Its coming just hold tight

Fergizzo

Yeah theres tons of dumpster fire companies in this space not just Tilray. Its just that them and Canopy are the most well known so they are the whipping boys for the sector. I managed to take only smallish losses on other companies and am now only in Greenthumb and Cresco down around 50%. Unfortunately im down big on MSOS though. That was my biggest mistake for sure.

Avid_Reader87

I was just looking up MSOS. 

Thumbszilla

Medical cannabis rescheduling is already done, and full rescheduling hearings begin tomorrow with a very likely positive outcome only weeks away because Trump wants it and has his people in place. Cannabis stocks like MSOS are about to rip.

PNWontheDL

MSOS Averaged down over years to about $8 after getting in at $40, figuring rescheduling would kick off a big rally. That thing weighed down my portfolio for years. Then the rescheduling EO happened and... nothing. Thankfully, I finally cut my losses (~60 percent) and rolled what was left into MUU in the mid-100s.

Thumbszilla

MSOS is up 105% over the last year, and most of the changes that are coming have yet to be implemented. Ground floor baby!

Thumbszilla

Imagine being able to go back in time and being able to buy shares in alcohol companies before prohibition ended. That possibility exists now with cannabis companies. BIG changes are coming soon! MSOS

Thumbszilla

With the final rescheduling hearings beginning next week MSOS is building up to the inevitable launch this summer

Complex-Ice-1523

https://preview.redd.it/siqxmvrz0n9h1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b885786f8c88d6a329327d05e4253a0d4c6a2fb MRMD, VFF, MSOX, MSOS

UsedState7381

MSOS traded over 12M today, I wouldn't call that "dead".

AmbassadorGloomy8915

Can’t believe it’s a week till the fourth, I thought there would be more things would be happening this summer. Selling MSOS puts right now because covered calls are too risky rn. Thoughts?

UsedState7381

It's $4.50 actually, but $5 isn't far behind. https://optioncharts.io/options/MSOS/max-pain

1_FCKTRD

As of 11:30, 2,546,144 shares of MSOS have been traded. Pump up the volume! Pump it up!

BHOmber

lol MSOS pegged at 4.50 going into the close tomorrow

1_FCKTRD

As of 10:30, 1,520,144 shares of MSOS have been traded. Pump up the volume! Pump it up!

heliumbox

The problem is... its Trul... if GTI uplisted at least there would be an attractive company for real "investors" (not degen gamblers) to look at. Not saying GTI is the savior... but at least they're not embarrassing. Also very likely GTI would drastically out perform due to getting out from under the thumb of Dan fucking them in MSOS. Unlike Trul or Cura that have been propped up artificially by Dan's outsized positions. But of course we got this half assed, confusing legislation that bifurcates the "drug" into Schrodinger's medical value.

skyplt29

The few of us left on this subreddit are tuned in; however, I expect most retail investors have moved on to other sectors and there is little if any interest in the upcoming hearings. The overarching question for me is the impact rec S3 will really have. Many of these MSOs will need to completely change how they conduct business. Going one step further, federally legal would mean no more State moats. I surmise a ton of mergers and acquisitions to try and scale. What impact will rec S3 actually have on how legal states operate? How will those remaining states that have not legalized handle things. I have no idea. As we have seen over and over, often times it hinges on the attitude of one person (Governors) and how they interpret the ramifications. Even when a State goes legal, taxes and price compression stifle any significant progress. I am hopeful we will see more clarity come mid July...and would be monumentally pleased if we got some sort of black swan event. But I think that would be dreaming in Technicolor. Right now I am glad to see MSOS green. Not by much (oops, just went to neutral as I write). My view is there will need to be a number of successive green days (even if it is just pennies) for most of these MSOs before mainstream retail investors notice. Hard to attract investors when it is consistent declining charts and red numbers. Volume is also very telling. Of late it has been anemic at best. So far today MSOS has traded about 2.7M shares, a long way from its daily average of 9.2M. Charlotte's Web has been flatlined on both volume and price for the last two hours...not a sausage. Glad to see it recovered from that brutal -13% day (still no reason that I could dig out). Trulieve? Well, so much for the idea uplisting being key to finding a new group of investors. I do believe eventually we will see a more liberal approach to cannabis; especially as politicians and investors come to understand the difference between CBD and THC, hemp and marijuana plants and how it all ties together. Until then it will continue to be the 20 or so folks here that keep the lights on.

1_FCKTRD

MSOS Market Makers Both Susquehanna and Citadel are attempting to defend an integrated 44,120 July call wall in the face of an absolute physical supply vacuum. Susquehanna and Citadel are not displaying pre-market competitive inside bids or asks on purpose because they want to freeze the exchange's infrastructure and prevent automated momentum from challenging their newly formed July $5.00 monthly calls. Their iceberg reserves are being depleted at an alarming rate, threatening their ability to control the price of MSOS. The moment institutional buy baskets push the price past $5.00, the delta on those 44,120 July calls will surge immediately toward 100%

PossibleLack835

if it goes to $3 it will be because S3 fell through. if MSOS goes to $10 then tlry will be at $20

1_FCKTRD

Update: TRLV Prime Bank Synthetic Swap Unwind. Yesterday, long-term funds purchased all of the physical shares that Nomura was required to sell on the NYSE in order to reduce their internal derivative obligations from 7.91% to 4.31%. These shares have already been legally recorded on the BNY Mellon custody ledger and have been permanently removed from the speculative lending pool. This will prevent short sellers from accessing them in the future. The physical equity block held in the BNY Mellon vault for the MSOS ETF also increased simultaneously from 18.40% to 22.00%. Yesterday, TRLV traded over 4.06 million shares.

Thumbszilla

MSOS blah blah blah

UsedState7381

Sounds like we should be due for one more red day then, if I'm correct then MSOS should test $4.5 again, then it should start to bounce back up ahead of the hearings and IRS guidance.

MonsterDrunk

its hilarious that he got a following just from writing fake positive news stories for MSOS bagholders

skyplt29

It's absurd...Charlotte's Web can drop 13.5% and I can ascertain no news. Cresco (apparently the Bestco) can shave 5% and none of us really know why. MSOS drops 6%, but we just assume that is another pump and dump from the usual suspects. Truly uncertain whether this sector will pull out of this funk. Short of Donald Trump and Elon Musk lighting up on camera and sharing a hit with Roger Stone there is little to suggest retail investors will take another chance putting any money into it. Really is tough to watch the graphs of all of these weedstocks, same direction...just some a little steeper than others.

manualCAD

Weird play before the hearing. Weird play before SAFE Banking. Weird play before Fat Joe. Weird play before Farm Bill. Weird play before Anne Milgram. Weird play before Cole Memo. Weird play before Dems take the Senate. Weird play before Repubs take the Senate. Weird play before Biden. Weird play before Trump. Weird play before Fat Joe. Weird play before Mike Tyson. Weird play before HHS recommendation. Weird play before interstate commerce. Weird play before exports to EU. Weird play before hemp carve outs. Weird play before institutional investors. Weird play before THCa. Weird play before $5B investment. Weird play before fake walls. Weird play before Aphria. Weird play before Booker throws himself down. Weird play before 280e relief. Weird play before GTI / Circle K. Weird play before TLRY buys the alcohol brands. Weird play before Schumer's tweet about decriminalizing marijuana at the federal level. Weird play before Doug Kass. Weird play before Shardi B. Weird play before bread in the oven. Weird play before cresco bestco. Weird play before GTI has no tax liability. Weird play before Amendment 3. Weird play before MSOS. Weird play before the barbarians arrive at the gates.

200cents

500k boner candle on MSOS gets me going and thinking positive from here. Lets hope we hit bottom. Although I do have immence respect for all the naysayers here.

FrenzyCapital

MSOX is the 2x leveraged version of MSOS, so its spreads run wider because the daily reset and underlying swap exposure make it less liquid and more expensive for market makers to hedge. Lower volume and higher volatility push the bid/ask gap up. It’s not “weighted” in any deliberate sense, you’re just paying the leverage tax. If you want tighter fills, use limit orders and trade during peak hours.

Aromatic_King_4100

Does $MSOS ever hit $15 again?

livefromheaven

That would mean only like 30% of $MSOS is still stuck on the CSE? Hurry up Ben

wentzco

Have you seen any integration challenges occur with the past acquisitions of Vireo Growth? Nope. Revenue increased in the state markets of these acquisitions. Notice how Vireo Growth has been doing things different with acquired local operators having flexibility in their states and not cookie-cutter franchise nationwide operations while getting company support, analytics infrastructure , lower production costs & purchasing power. “The reality is outside the state, beyond back office functions, they’re not integrated and they don’t need to be,” Azzalino (CEO of Eaze) said. “We share best practices and operating discipline across the organization, but every state has its own point of sale and technology stack that works within that market.” So far - Vireo Growth's acquisition plan is performing strong while other large MSOS operators seem to be treading water with their acquisitions... or better said non-acquisitions. Scotts Miracle-Gro, all of Vireo Growth's acquired companies (distressed and non-distressed) and Glass House Brands (retail partnership that point to something larger to come)... why are they flocking to Vireo and not other MSOs?

UsedState7381

Oh God....We are beyond fucked now. This guy on Twitter will talk about MSOS stocks, specially Trulieve, on CNBC...With none other than fucking *JIM CRAMER* https://x.com/i/status/2066997279848837393 Shit's fucking cooked, folks 😭😭😭

four_twenty_4_20

What date did u buy and what price did you pay? I dont know how to calculate it exactly but if you compare MSOS price to MSOX then and now it should be pretty obvious. I wouldnt hold it for more than a week or two but only if it was trending in the right direction. I held some for a few months a couple of years ago, expensive lesson.

Russticale

I like that intra day bounce we got today on MSOS.  Im flipping to bullish here, snagged MSOS calls and MSOX.  The puts two weeks ago were the move. Taking a gamble and hoping for some unexpected pop.  Likely MSOS is pinned under $5 for this week of Opex (options expiry) but im loading up.  Finished my MariMed buying at .07, excited for that one long term.

four_twenty_4_20

The walk down to MSOS $4 continues.

UsedState7381

Trlv is up over 11% on overnight trading hours. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TRLV/ This is a little substantial, much better than the over 3% MSOS had yesterday which got promptly erased at market open.

UsedState7381

I'm not sure if you haven't noticed yet, but MSOS daily chart is essentially just Trulieve's daily chart now that Trulieve is the ticker that commends the most volume of all underlyings. Kim Rivers is selling shares on Wednesday, which will make the ticker dump it's price...And so will MSOS...And then we have OPEX expiration date this next Friday. I don't think the MMs will have enough juice to get the $4 calls to expire worthless, but I'm certain that they will get it somewhere close to the ballpark and get those $4.5 calls instead.

four_twenty_4_20

So that the outstanding MSOS options expire paying out the least possible. There's been a pretty consistent pattern of MSOS closing friday price right at max pain. You can Google "options max pain" to learn more.

four_twenty_4_20

Will be interesting to see if they can get MSOS to $4 or even below by Thursday. Sold all my cura at 14.15 this morning to buy back at a lower price friday. Sold most of my GTI position last week at $11.43 for the same reason.

ShartSqueeze

Everyone selling MSOS and moving into tech.

UsedState7381

Great, MSOS dumping down to sub $5 and I didn't even got a chance to get out before turning on the app, amazing start of the week 👍 And Kim didn't even started selling yet for fucks sake...

four_twenty_4_20

Its a trap. Options fuckery incoming for Thursday. I'll be selling some into any rip today. No way MMs let a ton of MSOS options print this week.

UsedState7381

Its not a bad thing at all and MSOS is back up 3% on overnight hours, on Yahoo Finance  https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSOS/ (It seems that the TRLV ticker isn't available for overnight trading hours yet)

Russticale

CGC earnings premarket on Monday.  Hopefully it rallies the cannadians, my VFF position needs it. I think we chop around between 5 and 5.50 this short week on MSOS.  Then next week we should run up into the rescheduling hearing end of June.  I shoulda waited but snagged some MSOX calls (only weekly, i shoulda gone out a month) at the close Friday.  MSOS hopefully holds 5 this week, cheers.

Flipside68

You do you - this is not a support group for investors struggling with exposure and allocation. In saying that…right size your bets, reduce doubt by sorting out what you’re actually buying and know why you are convicted. Most would disagree with me but I just hold MSOS/MSOX and fluent for USA exposure. I hold HMMJ and OGI for cad exposure. It’s your money - buy a happy meal or a couple more shares of GTI - whatever makes you…happy

UsedState7381

Probably MSOS exercising their swaps to convert them into shares, which explains why such a huge AH move didn't moved up TRLV price. Also, look at their latest update and compare it to the day before: https://x.com/i/status/2065626869991379097 The description of the ticker changed and so did their price average.

Ok-Replacement9595

It's the point on the options tree where call and puts that are open meaning at that point the absolute most will be out of the money either way, and the hedge funds and market makers selling options (which is what their game is now) get the most amount of them to expire worthless. That's my understanding at least. I may be off. Anyway, the point being MSOS is easily pushed around because of the limited liquidity, so they always get it there no matter what the sentiment is. It's a rigged market. In short.

BHOmber

This is why I can't even see GTI going back above 30 usd without a CPG buyout in play. They're probably going to be the first target with their financials and Ben's connections, but having the ticker flip at 15-25 would be a bummer. I'm hoping that we get some room to run as more uplistings hit the market and MSOS loses control of the price action. I think that a lot of that action will depend on retail awareness though. TRLV didn't do much compared to the APHA>TLRY and CGC events.

Ok-Replacement9595

To get MSOS past max pain. That is the simple answer. I don't even wanna look at what happened to my boy GTI today.

UsedState7381

MSOS max pain today is $5 and it seems that MMs will be successful in keeping it right under $5 to make them expire worthless. MSOS max pain for the next week is $4...If somehow the MMs manages to get it done there, it will throw the whole uplisting thesis under the bus... And it doesn't help it that Kim will start selling off next week. This is clearly not panning out as I was hoping it would.

skyplt29

Although it should no longer surprise me at this point, watching MSOS getting walked down to $5 is pretty depressing. I thought Trulieve's uplisting was gong to break that pattern.

four_twenty_4_20

The boogeyman of course. $5 is MSOS max pain for today. 90%+ of the time MSOS is pinned to the price that creates max pain for option holders. Too consistent to be a simple coincidence.

the_mammynun

For what they promised to be 10 years ago, you're right that's a massive let down. However its not surprising because being a mid-cost LP is pretty much the worst game in town right now. MSOs will also have their lunch eaten but in time. Right now they are protected by state licensed programs, so they don't have to play in a free market like Aurora.  Instead focus on companies with differentiated models that can survive commoditization and a free market. Only HITI comes to mind as being a pure play retailer means their (lower) margins are protected. They manage their expectations because margins were never 50%+ like with MSOS during the current Golden age. They learn how to survive now and thrive later. HITI also has a European import subsidiary. Global logistics will always be important regardless of pricing. Again, margins are protected.

Draphippo

Improved liquidity is an understatement. Second day on the NYSE we traded 1.1M shares. The bid/ask spread has been within Pennie’s. Liquidity is the problem with the entire sector, large money can’t enter or exit without manipulating their own positions. We’re so early here, it will be months on DD from institutions before they take positions. Most are waiting for 100% clarity from the hearing fast approaching/tax guidance. Until then, TRLV is a large portion of the MSOS ETF which is highly manipulated because of said low liquidity OTC/CSE names. When the other top holdings get uplisting and custody the real race will begin. Like clockwork for the last 5 years MM’s have been able to completely control the options market within the ETF, and it’s what they’re trying to do right now. Sell options, pin price action, collect premiums, repeat.

1_FCKTRD

***1\_FCKTRD • 5mo ago*** ***The process of distribution and accumulation from retail to institutions is slow and methodical, and it is only when this process is complete that the next stage can begin.*** The MSOS accumulation phase ended yesterday (6/10) due to a change in the structural rules that govern its largest holding, TRLV (28.73%).

Flipside68

As a MSOS holder I feel like a trulieve investor now.

four_twenty_4_20

Next friday is a huge MSOS options deal. I have to expect that has a lot to do with this.

volckerwasright

The yearly on MSOS doesn’t look bad at all. I’d be looking to add the same size long if I can get back in at my April cost basis

Charming_Yellow5867

!p MSOS

Charming_Yellow5867

Market is tanking and MSOS is still grinding up.

four_twenty_4_20

I'm still concerned about what's going to happen June 18 where max pain on MSOS options is $3 or $4 depending on the source.

PossibleLack835

anyone else in TLRY? why are we being left in the dust, I thought a rising wave lifts all boats but it seems to only be lifting MSOS

Russticale

Fundamentals don’t matter, the recent surge in MSOS price does.

UsedState7381

It's not the dump today that is concerning me, it's the fact that we didn't had a recovery today, going in tomorrow. And MSOS traded a lot today, over 11M shares, so it's a real sell-off dump. Trulieve's uplisting tomorrow will pretty much spell how it will be for other stocks in this sector, when it's their due...And so far, this is looking terrible. This isn't new, it's the exact same shit we had on December and then on April...But since uplisting was THE most overhyped catalyst in this sector, I was expecting that the day wasn't going to be this sour. I have high hopes for tomorrow, but I'm also ready to hit the sell button as soon as see this shit turning sour again.

Visual-Try-8081

Day traders will day trade. Nothing new in cannaland. Long GTI, HITI, MSOS, TLRY, and recently on the lows VFF (from bigger to smaller position)

Harriers1886

MSOS to $10?? (Looking to close over $6 today) ….. possible Wednesday dip on TRLV trading, sell the news, then rally to resume with other uplisting news.

Wonderful-Basis4982

MSOS has about 10M shares short right now. If institutions step up and buy Trulieve heavily on Wednesday, we could be looking at an epic short squeeze. Going to be a fun ride!

Loose-Dream7901

Kim Rivers paid to be at Trumps millionaire dinner. Despite the negative connotation with cannabis companies in the past, I do think these companies will warrant a rally especially the top 3 holdings of MSOS (CuraLeaf, GreenThumb and Trulieve of course). This doesn’t take away from many other great companies from AI to space. In terms of listing types, this really is the only company of its kind. I do think it’s a special company and reasonably priced.

Unban_thx

Call me crazy but MSOS has been creeping up for better part of month even during last Friday. Insider buying. A “save the midterms” last ditch effort with banking reform in the mix?

UsedState7381

It feels cursed to see the green my MSOS position 🤣

newplayer28

Won't be any buying pressure with the uplisting but that will come soon! Planning to hold Trulieve til mid 2027 and not sell after uplisting; need to see index buying and MSOS buying the actual underlying instead of derivative contracts is huge! Should see positive share price appreciation.

HAIL_BAIJ

Calls on MSOS then?

ItsLikeARewardAZ

TCNNF. While it is in MSOS, MSOS has lots of companies in it. TCNNF should spike higher. You could also play the double MSOS with MSOX.

UsedState7381

It doesn't mean much, but MSOS is up over 2% on the overnight trading 

Russticale

I think we see "sell the news" this week. We've run up, you can see the bulls getting exhuasted end of day Friday. I'm ready to get burnt again if it happens, but snagged some decent downside protection for the week and until end of month. MSOS hasn't broken out yet. If we do push new highs this week, then we have a more serious rally brewing.

No_Love_Gained

Truly missing some insightful discussion on how S3 does nothing, MSOS can't/won't uplist and other fud bits with Swordfish and Twist of fate..lol Have happy Sunday ya'll.. glta

Harriers1886

MSOS for me…. Also, TSND announced their intention on Friday so I’m loading up more especially at current levels

DumbComment101

No you’re just blind to the idea. None of the tier 1 MSOs operate in any of the US states that resemble Canada. Ignoring Canada at this point is just being willfully ignorant to your own investment. All of the states will look like what Canada looks like eventually. WHY DONT ANY OF THE MSOS operate successfully in states that don’t have limited licenses? Answer me that without mental gymnastics. You can’t.

tak0wasabi

How can MSOS get below $5 when that price was based on no proper capital markets access and we now have it.

Thumbszilla

What's the better play this week... TCNNF, MSOS, or MSOX? TCNNF beat the pants off everybody the last 2 trading days.

UsedState7381

In your shoes, I'd be crazy enough to full port into Trulieve by the official announcement, and be ready to take profits by Wednesday(not fully, but considerably). Wednesday I might be selling my MSOS shares of they pumps enough for it (that would be above $12 though and I don't think it gets there). Main reason for that is that Kim will be selling too, and then we will certainly see the stock diluting too as they have a pending offering to go through. If we consider this Uplisting as an reverse IPO of sorts(I am), we can figure out how it will go based on several past IPOs and OTC stocks uplisting. Then I'll probably take a week or two off these stocks, buy back in only after we know what the SAM lawsuit against S3 for medical MJ is looking like.

MatrixOrigin

Cuz -15% when $MSOS is running.

MAkrbrakenumbers

Any ideas on why the whole market is red but MSOS was up almost 9% today news didn’t seem to have

Flipside68

MSOS will disappear - because it will help you stop crying at night. There, there. Like why the hell would the only liquid etf in the space go away after uplisting?

OX45-Tall

Best news about uplisting is hopefully the MSOS ETF, Dan Ahrens and Noah Hamman disappear and are never heard from again in cannabis! Still one of the worst things to happen to the US cannabis stocks. The millions of dollars these clowns have made off of advisor fees and “active management’” is sickening.