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Apes Help Apes: For Being an ETF for Animals, Planet & People, $VEGN Worthy of Stonk Status?
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I own several ESG funds, such as IMPAX balanced, VEGN, and others. Research at weaponsfreefunds.org
If you're interested in investing in companies that are more aligned with your values, there are various mutual funds + ETFs that are available (e.g., VEGN: "US Vegan Climate EFT"). Be careful about overly restrictive funds (whose focus may be too narrow to produce the steady gains typical of broad index funds) or funds that have unreasonably high annual fees. Many of these funds aren't going to make as much financial sense as the broader funds that track the S&P 500 or the whole market (e.g., VTSAX). If you're worried about the practices of particular investment companies, it's helpful to look into past lawsuits that have been filed against them. I like Vanguard, which made its reputation in part by offering certain investments with especially low fees, changing the industry in the process, and the company is technically owned by its customers. No company will be perfect, though. Beware of investments that serve the interests of the company much more than those of the investor. Some annuities arguably fall into this category, for example.
Ok. Also: "EATV" is a "VegTech Plant-based Innovation & Climate ETF". As long as Roth don't tax profits, then dividend prone stocks, like the REITS I mentioned, n some others, go better there than do non dividend stocks. But ETfs (mainly VEGN, possibly XLK, XTL, GLDM) seem to be best wherever. But avoid panic from market fluctuations. Last I checked, VEGN is basically the SP500, but without immoral stuff like animal exploitation, pollution, sweatshops etc. n has outperformed the SP500 since VEGN listed. It has more tech than SP500, but less than Nasdaq 100. the following (probably a bit outdated now) vid's graphics helped inspire me on how to add to VEGN [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlEVvJfP6no&t=49s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlEVvJfP6no&t=49s) Click the sub n bell icons on [youtube.com/Playitalready](http://youtube.com/Playitalready) for (in the distant future) non fiction vids, including meatless etc. foods, n maybe update me on your investin.
This is awesome!! Thank you so much! I'll be referencing this (and double checking) if I decide to expand my portfolio. (For anyone interested, now that the stock market has improved and you can see a broader picture over a longer period of time, VEGN has been quite good and has not been disappointing me. It seems to follow a very similar pattern to S&P 500. For now, I placed all my cash in my Roth IRA there.)
The "VEGN" etf outperformed the S&P500 its 1st year. I recently checked, n it has been over 5 years, n it's still outperforming. I'm no expert on Veganism but I know there's many healthy ones who live long. I know vegetarians live longer n healthier lives than meat eaters, n require less land, water, pollution, healthcare costs, meat industry subsidies n worker injury n PTSD, animal suffering., n bad karma than meat eaters. There's actually less evidence that most humans (until 5,000 years ago) ate meat, compared to evidence that they were lacto-vegetarian, however, it doesn't matter because past actions don't necessarily prove what we ought to do going forward. Google "Plant based meat" for vegan foods that taste like meat. I hope this helps. I'm not tryin to start an argument that I'm too busy to read n reply to.
The "VEGN" etf has outperformed the S&P500 its 1st year. I recently checked, n it has been over 5 years, n it's still outperforming since inception. XLK is basically tech, n has outperformed since inception, which was in the 1990s.
It's good to have a few broad-base large cap ETFs to get your choicier picks (I'm very interested in ocean power, but those stocks go where they wish!) pulled along with the market. VEGN is nice in that regard, as it invests in the broad market, while leaving out egregious offenders like fossil fuel companies. It's nice to have a whole-market ETF that considers animal welfare. Good on you for being vegan! Got any recipes you'd care to share?
Thanks for that! I’m glad to see at https://totalrealreturns.com/s/VFINX,VBMFX,USDOLLAR,VEGN it seems to keep pace (barely outpace) vfinx since inception! Makes me feel a bit less crazy to want to consider some exclusions while investing. The point of the thread was to be able to select my exclusions, ideally, but I would also love to know about other etfs where there is prison and weapons exclusions.
Regarding your comment OP, could I suggest something like the [VEGN ETF](https://veganetf.com/)? There are ETFs/indices/funds for ESG investing, so people can choose to not invest in smoking, gambling, or other controversial businesses (not touching the ethical and philosophical landmines of say, a non-oil fund investing in Wells Fargo who in turn invests in oil). The "US Vegan Climate ETF" has a market cap of $100M and is heavily concentrated in tech. Feel free to research more that fit your intention.
From their website: VEGN track an index which screens large cap US companies for a variety of ESG (Environmental, Social, Governance) considerations, primarily animal harm and exploitation, as well as fossil fuels, environmental damage, and human rights. It has your usual market holdings, but it screens out the worst offenders for animal rights abuses.
From their website: VEGN tracks an index that screens large cap US companies (like Apple and Nvidia) for a variety of ESG (Environmental, Social, Governance) considerations, primarily animal harm and exploitation, as well as fossil fuels, environmental damage, and human rights. It seems to be seeking to invest in the broader market while considering animal welfare.
Note: VEGN tracks mostly large-cap stocks (big share of the market) that engage in animal- and climate-friendly practices. It tracks a US index which 'demonstrates that it is possible to obtain broad-based market exposure, whilst adhering to animal and environmentally-friendly principles" https://beyondinvesting.com/us-vegan-climate-index/
VEGN tracks mostly large-cap stocks (bug share of the market) that engage in animal-friendly and climate-friendly practices. It tracks a US index which 'demonstrates that it is possible to obtain broad-based market exposure, whilst adhering to animal and environmentally-friendly principles" https://beyondinvesting.com/us-vegan-climate-index/
Thankfully VEGN ‘s portfolio isn’t as greenwashed as yours 😀
It’s an ETF, you’re paying for a bundle of hundreds, and most ETFs pad their base with a steady few stocks, vaguely aligned with the cause. But peer into VEGN ‘s portfolio and you’ll see a nice mix of mid and small business, practicing sustainable agriculture or permaculture.
hey that's awesome to hear about VEGN sounds like more people are jumping on the plant-based train should be interesting to see where it goes next
NVDA, TSLA, UNH, AVGO are top holdings. I think you don’t know what these guys invest in. It’s not agriculture. https://veganetf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/VEGN-factsheet-30-September-2023.pdf
For every share of VEGN you buy in your IRA I am going to buy 2 shares of Tyson Foods. So you’re actually harming the animals by doing it. Checkmate vegan
Isn't a smaller expense ratio better? That it can be super similar to another fund is an interesting point. Maybe I'll see if there is another fund with similar types of companies but different in another way like international vs domestic or medium vs large cap to diversify a little. I need to research what VEGN includes more. (If the difference is not drastic I still like supporting VEGN to contribute to bringing animal-conscious words to the market so there can be more talk about animal consciousness in ESG instead of just environmental consciousness. That's just my choice.)
With “socially conscious” investment products, you’re often just paying for nothing For example, [VEGN’s holdings](https://stockanalysis.com/etf/vegn/holdings/) are just a bunch of tech companies. You might as well just buy XLK, a generic technology ETF. XLK’s expense ratio is 0.09%, much less than VEGN’s 0.6%
I know VEGN is profitable. Was hoping there was something else like this. But I'm also just curious if any of the popular and profitable environmental funds include big factory farms or companies with certain animal practices under some of the "unethical practices" they try to exclude, that I may just not know about from not doing enough research. I feel like I've loosely heard about this being done, but I'm not sure which mutual funds or ETFs it refers to. Donating is a good idea, but since this is for my IRA, I don't see that being possible since that would require me to remove money from that account and I think incur penalties. I do hope factory farming and cosmetics testing becomes a more popular exclusion.
There's an ETF called VEGN (https://www.etf.com/VEGN) > VEGN is passively managed to track an index of U.S. large cap stocks, screened according to vegan and environmental principles. The fund looks to exclude stocks of companies whose business activities directly contribute to animal suffering, destruction of the natural environment and climate change. This is the first ETF to launch in the ESG space with such focus. The Index screens 500 of the largest US listed companies to exclude companies that derive more than 2% of their revenues from products or services directly related to prohibited activities: animals (animal testing or animals in sport and entertainment), the planet (extraction or refining of fossil fuels or high carbon intensity), or people (tobacco products or armaments specifically designed for military and defense uses). Companies remaining are initially market-cap weighted. VEGN could skew from its large cap exposure when it is necessary to add midcap companies to the index, in order to match the same industry group weights in the Solactive US Large Cap Index. The index is reconstituted semi-annually in June and December.
Investing in a single company always comes with risks, even if a company's financials look good I'd recommend that you diversify your investments to mitigate risk. Since you're interested in vegan and sustainable companies, you can invest in a diversified portfolio of ethical stocks. An example is the U.S. Vegan Climate ETF (VEGN) that invests in companies that do not engage in activities that harm animals, the environment, or human health, etc. Before making any investment decisions you should always do thorough research. Best of luck! Feel free to pm me if you have any other questions!
Maybe the VEGN ETF? Glancing over the list of companies again, it seems less "every company that does vegan foods or products" and more "any company that produces anything that could theoretically help the environment in some way (even if they *also* produce leather carseats or whatever)"
the only vegan investments I would pick are impossible and eat just. Those two are really innovating. Sadly beyond is not doing so hot, even though I like their meat the best. We still have the VEGN etf
Of course there is. There are opposing views on the impact of divestment in industries such as fossil fuels, meat, tobacco, etc. but it is certainly possible to perform just as well by avoiding these industries if you prefer to. If you just want to stick everything into an ETF, I suggest looking into VEGN. It's not a "vegan ETF" the way it sounds, it's basically an ETF that takes the S&P, crosses out all the companies that are into fossil fuels, meat, child labour, etc., and replaces them with other companies, sometimes dipping into mid caps if necessary in order to maintain a balance across sectors. Since inception it has slightly outperformed the S&P, but as a rule of thumb it will probably more or less fall in line with it over time. As for why people continue to invest, the market simply has no moral compass either way. Morality is not a factor in its decision making. If you don't buy shares of an oil company, someone else will come along and buy it at a slightly lower price. However, your assessment of the stock market in Russia as evidence that people have no morals is a bit flawed - you're looking at prices that are being artificially inflated for the time being, and even though a lot of people didn't pull out of Russia for ethical reasons, I think it's safe to say that Russia has suffered some degree of economic harm for its actions. In this case, as in many, factors that make Russia's actions immoral also happen to turn a lot of investors away. A perfectly rational actor isn't "evil", they are simply morally neutral.
VEGN, CWW, DRFE amid a sea of loss porn Recently cashed out in ZUT and NACP >15% up before latest downturn.
Laugh at me if you will, but I put money into VEGN (i.e. vegan climate ETF) two years ago in an attempt to "invest more ethically" + be lazy (another round of laughter here) and have periodically thrown more in, and it's been rock solid.
You came to the wrong place you came for genuine advice. Try r/valueinvesting Remember these key points You should only buy shares 98% of retail can't beat S&P 500 so just get an ETF like SPY or VEGN Stock market transfers wealth from the impatient people to the patient people. Dollar cost average by consistently increasing your stock through the year. Only invest in what you don't need for the next 5+ years. Or buy puts, options and lose it all. Up to you.
Best I could figure out was Vegan ETF (VEGN) that is heavy on plant based meat. No options, so no puts. 🤔
VEGN. Invest in something worthwhile for once.
Heya peeps! Fairly new to "investing" since last year. Well, I am surprised it worked out as good as it did with about 50% gains last year, but my strategy was in hindsight very very risky (betting on single stocks where the majority keep sinking and a few of them popped up nicely to make up overall. Now I am a bit curious about trying to replicate Hedgefundies strategy of 55/45 in levreged Index ETF / Bonds. That said, I dont want the full SPY500 portfolio, but to exclude some stocks. Is there a way to automate to have lets say SPYX/VEGN be mantained at a 2/3 leverage over time without manually have to sell and rebuy? Also, havent been trading with margin apart from accidently. Just so I have got it right in case I try to make a 2 or 3x version of an etf myself. Lets say the broker has a 50% over night margin requirement and I bought 55 dollars in VEGN with 2x leverage (on margin) and 45 dollars in a bond etf. When will I get margin called (assuming the bond etf has its value unchanged)? Is it based on the single stock or the combined value of all comodities?
You can invest more "ethically" if you have concerns about certain businesses or practices. For example, the VEGN ETF has solid performance and doesn't invest in any oil companies, tobacco, child labour, the meat industry, mining, and so on, and is very focused on renewables and tech.
OH, you didn't mention that it was THAT low. In that case I change my advice to "piss it away in any way you please". Forget that BS I said about hype purchases. It's 1%. Invest in something that interests you, or take a wild gamble on something you think will take off. In the other thread people were talking about holding 1% in "sentimental" stocks. I have a few shares myself in things I think are cool, like UFO and VEGN. Nah, I thought you were a case of "it's my first year investing and I'm down 25%". With 1%, follow those impulses and biases all the way down the spiral :)
I put some into VEGN this past year and a half with some decent success.
There is an ETF called VEGN. Check them out.
Buy VEGN. Excellent returns, holds only moral companies
I could not find VEGN, but EATS looks really promising. I might take a position here, seems to be a good entry point right now as well! Big thanks!
EATS is one (Eat Beyond, does not include beyond burger shares afaik) VEGN is the other EATS is more on the food side... if I remember right from when I was researching, VEGN is anything so long as it is technically vegan, so it includes tech stocks. But obviously i might be completely misremembering
Yep, VEGN...bought in in the 20's.
That's a relatively new sector with a ton of companies that aren't going to make it. Beyond is probably fine as a company, but milk alternatives are thoroughly oversaturated, I'd be wary of picking an individual company in that sector. This is really from a consumer point of view, I'm not familiar with the companies from an investment standpoint. A quick Google isn't coming up with a good etf to cover the industry unfortunately (just VEGN, which is just the S&P or the Russel 1k in a green hat).
This is, hands-down, one of the top memes so far! There ought to be Retard Ape Awards Ceremony just for this shit. Buy and hold that $AMC and $GMC, straight up the Hedgie's asses. On a side note, $HCMC and $VEGN are ready for launch-off when the autists are ready for lift-off. 😬
Weber ipo 🤡 What will the ticker be? MEAT? FLVR? COAL? VEGN
What has me excited about TTCF is the growing revenue and the Walmart and Costco contracts. What are your thoughts on VGANF / VEGN.CN? They own Holy Crap Cereal (sales increased >50% in last Q). three insiders recently bought $600k @ $0.20/share (per NEWSFILE) and it's trading below that now. they also own Yam Chops, & some cannabis edible play as well. thoughts?
I like VEGN.CA. It looks like a company positioning itself for big growth in an expanding market. I like the stock.
Yes. But there’s more to it than that. They let me buy SPYX which has 1 bn in assets, but last time I checked would not let me purchase RPAR which now has 1.25bn in assets. VEGN has $50mn GBTC now has $5.5 billion So it’s more than an asset threshold for each fund or for the issuer. And again Wholesale ban on ETNs. Doesn’t matter after this month is over I should be moving to Fidelity which as far as I can tell allows the purchase of anything, although sometimes you need to execute a separate agreement (I needed one for DSENX).
Merrill blocks a lot of things. ETNs, ETFS they don’t approve of, etc it’s why I’m leaving them. Off the top of my head, they won’t let you but RPAR, VXX, GBTC, VEGN, VCEB etc. the last one is a Vangurd ETF for crying out loud. It’s not about whether the fund is actively traded or not, after all they allow investments in ARK funds. I got lured in before free commissions became the norm. It’s been a lot of foot dragging but I finally have my paperwork to transfer out.
How about ETFs? My primary equity exposure is through SPYX, which is the sp500 without fossil fuel exposure. Another fund that I’ve bought a few shares of is the US Vegan Climate ETF. The name threw me off, it’s not a vegan ETF, but they narrow their universe to exclude fossil fuels, animal abuse, human rights abuse and the military industrial complex. Neither has a super long history, but in their times they’ve outperformed the SP500. The vegan etf has a website. https://www.veganetf.com Both are low volume, so not suitable for trading with their spreads. Direxion (the levered ETF maker) also has an interesting long/short ESG company etf. And there are plenty of ESG bond ETFs to choose from also. My money is primarily at Merrill and for stupid reasons they don’t let me buy VEGN, nor a vanguard ESG bond etf that I wanted to play with. Fidelity has no such issues, though.
VGANF / VEGN.CN just came to my attention...looks good
Just going to throw this out there. VEGN.CN is $0.21 per share and is up 8% today already.
Here are some details but it has stock ticker VEGN and was started by beyond investing. They do use tech companies as focus is companies that don’t use animal testing or animal products. I don’t find that hard with all the companies available. I usually look for clean energy or tech for my alleged retirement in the future. https://thebeet.com/the-worlds-first-vegan-fund-turns-one-are-vegan-stocks-a-good-investment/
I wanted this a while back too, the only ETF I could find was Beyond Investing's vegan eft (**VEGN),** but at a glance it doesn't seem to be that weighted in vegan companies. Tesla/Microsoft being their biggest holding?
DD alert. VEGN.CN up 11.54% today. It’s $0.58 per share. It’s a growing company in a niche market with huge potential. Check out their market activity and if you are a patient investor like I am. This one is a winner. This is not investment advice. I am not a professional.
There is a vegan ETF (VEGN) that covers the industry. Beyond meat of course, it ipo in May 2019 at 24$ & is 270$ today. Some mushroom companies too that seem prime to jump into the psychadelic industry as that is coming more popular for PTSD, addiction, etc. I'm always looking for more myself. Just woke up & can't think of others rn. Burger King has the impossible whopper & it does well, but no stock I'm aware of. That beyond burger is in many restaurants here in Texas as well, our dine in theater, bowling alley, beyond sausage at an artisan pizza place.
There is a vegan ETF now too $VEGN (but it’s kind of a scam with high rates and their portfolio made up of tech companies that are, um, probably not vegan?)
I will check out that sub, thank you. I have heard people mention the ETF VEGN before but it hardly seems like a plant-based ETF considering it's top 10 holdings are pretty much all the most popular/hyped stocks on the entire market. TSLA, GOOG, AAPL, MSFT, V, MA... Do they even believe in actual vegan companies or do they just use the name for vegans who want to jump on a bandwagon without doing any research? Might not be a bad play but considering how many ETFs hold all those stocks, I see no reason. If you want a green ETF I suggest going the route of TAN, PBW, ICLN, QCLN, BEP etc. These are much more environmentally focused. Yes, tesla and microsoft are somewhat pro-environment but that doesn't make them the most green stocks.