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Direxion Daily Real Estate Bear 3X Shares
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Wave of auto-loan defaults are symptoms of a much larger issue.
Long term recurring yolo on housing market taking a dump $DRV
What's the easiest way to short Commercial Mortgage-Backed Securities? Not the AAA etfs like DRV but the lower tranches with the sub-prime commercial mortgages. I see a lot of empty storefronts and want to make some money off the collapse of the commercial mortgage collapse the same way Burry did.
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DRV as a hedge against the real estate market?
All in on $DRV calls. Papa Burry here we come!
Zero down, No credit. Subprime is back baby!
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Zero down, No credit. Subprime is back baby!
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If housing market is showing signs of collapse, why is DRV down
So I heard a lot of people are talking about recession coming....What should I invest?
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$DRV M,W,D charts- Interest rates rising, housing inventories rising, housing prices falling…. incoming recession. JUST IMAGINE WHAT THE FUTURE HAS IN STORE FOR $DRV…. FYI this index was created after the last housing crisis☺️
I just put my entire Roth IRA into DRV how does it work?
Officially closed in 🌈 🐻 market!! More room down, next target $350 spy 🕵️♂️
Who wants to short the real estate market?
If REK goes up 1% shouldn't DRV go up 3%?
Why I believe DRV will pay well towards 2nd half of ‘22 & into ‘23
As if your needed another reason Ban social impact bonds not a digital currency public or private An esg Attack there collaterals $DRIP an $DRV save the 🌎.put the pressure on them
The Next Big Short- The American Housing Market. Long $DRV
Whaaaa 😭😭😭😭 #Fantasia Burnt the shadow Bank in defaulted on a coupon oh no Buy $DRV no shii 🔒🔒 de-leveraging
$DRV, Making Money on the Housing Market Crash
DRV Turns the Housing Market Crash into Tendies!
Ive become a big 🌈🐻 when it comes to the housing market
$DRV... lets make some tendies at the cost of others
Is SRS the best way to "short" the housing market if I am expecting a large pullback within the next few years?
Is $10k really possible? Of course! In the 2008 housing crash, DRV went from $200 to $30k in 2 weeks. It held $20k value for multiple weeks. $10k can be floor if you decide it is.
Is $10k really possible? Of course! In the 2008 housing crash, DRV went from $200 to $30k in 2 weeks. It held $20k value for multiple weeks. $10k can be floor if you decide it is.
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yep, thats what I'm doing it now, with DRV
i just bought some FAZ, DRV and SPXS. still at a good price
so what's the ticker that I'm too late to play here? Calls on DRV?
Something is gunna break soon. Buy DRV
I’m riding feb DRV calls I bought two weeks ago. Shit is NICE
Yeah I realize that. That’s why I’m looking for proxies. Thanks for DRV suggestion— also possibly puts on DRC. Options chain is pretty thin though. Derivatives of derivatives. What can possibly go wrong
Bro the stock market is not the same as real estate. If you want to hedge for RE, try something like DRV.
Weird XHB got crushed and DRV looks like it's popping. Real Estate is cooked?
Currently holding 500 shares of RKLB and I have a single CSP sold at 8.50. The rest of my port is committed to swing trading DRV (inverse real estate ETF)
Many of those people who lost jobs will take jobs for less money. It's nasty but, that's what the gov wanted and what they will get. I also don't disagree with hedge funds buying up more real estate but, they ain't gonna buy up the whole damn US. We are at about 4.3 to 4.4 percent unemployment. That's not bad at all if you look at [historical data](https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm). You seem to think it's all or nothing when in fact it's Oochie Wally Wally and One Mic at the same time. The trick is to make sure people don't own anything and rent everything like Housing, Music, Adobe software etc... Keep folks in state of perpetual debt. It's the reason they don't cure diseases but rather give you medicine to live with the condition and then make the price of that medicine astronomical. The housing market won't crash anytime soon. There is a shortage of homes not a surplus. What about unemployment you say? It's too low for a crises at this time and going into the holiday season hiring will kick back up. Now that rates are high enough to lower they got some tools to ramp up the economy. This is WSB if you feel like housing market will crash there is an ETF for that $SRS $DRV. Go get this money. Scared money don't make no money.
Buy DRV calls. Shit hasn’t even started to break yet and when it does is when we get real selling
VNQ puts, DRV calls. Commercial real estate next domino to fall
DRV options have been the move
DRV is an 3x inverse real estate etf. Check it out
We have a insurance that all employees paying in. But it is expected that you're doing more than that. https://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung.de/DRV/DE/Online-Services/Online-Rechner/online_rechner.html They even have a calculator on their Web page. Many pplcgose additional insurances to bolster retirement funds. However many insures take a hefty percentage. E.g. the riester Rente is a failed model insurance that is making only the insurances rich.
Re: DRV real estate shorting stock, I don’t think I buy it. Home prices aren’t going down— jf rates are high, due to hot market, then low supply, and prices high. If rates go down, due to lukewarm market, then higher supply, but more buyers/higher prices. Also, people are all now sensitized to 5 to 6k a month mortgages — so an argument that prices could go up again in a big way. What am I missing? Obv neighborhood dependent, talking macro level.
If you locked into a 4.25% interest rate, count your blessings. I get your concept but I think you have completely underestimated both the "cost" of this makeshift insurance and how horribly imperfect the inverse REIT's are over time (and particularly options on inverse REIT's). (1) Heloc's carry an interest cost, (2) options are subject to time decay and a total loss at expiration, (3) inverse REIT's are already imperfect tools that don't claim to track the market beyond a single day and can end up losing value over time due to compounding and volatility even when the direction of your bet is correct (4) the REIT's are based on a housing index that will almost certainly diverge from your local market conditions, especially over time, (5) you're distorting that further with the premium and bid/ask spreads on those options, which may be excessive since such options see only light trading. Hypothetical: I didn't do much searching, but the only inverse REIT I could quickly find with January 2025 options (to cover you till you sell in 2025) is DRV, a 3x inverse REIT. Share price currently $46.49. These can drop quickly as you can see between 10/25/2023 ($71.18) to 12/28/2023 ($33.30). If you look at almost any long-term chart of these leveraged inverse ETF's they all appear just as an insidious and continuous drop in net asset value as they are not designed to cover any strategy longer than 1 day! From the prospectus: "For periods longer than a single day, the Fund will lose money if the Index’s performance is flat, and it is possible that the Fund will lose money even if the Index’s performance decreases over a period longer than a single day. An investor could lose the full principal value of his/her investment within a single day if the Index gains more than 33% in one day." So your bet can be 100% correct, yet due to a compounding effect and other factors DRV might now come anywhere near reflecting 3x the market loss, and might in fact STILL be down since (another prospectus warning): "the volatility of the Index may affect the Fund’s return as much as, or more than, the return of the Index." With all of that said, with DRV share price at $46.49, and the highest strike price available for Jan 2025 at 49, with those calls priced at $990 each (e.g. $9.90), you buy 10 of them and there's your $10,000. Say the real estate market crashes. In order for you to get your $100,000, the share price of DRV would need to jump to 149 (that would leave intrinsic option value at $10,000 per option x 10 = your $100,000). That's 3x the current net asset value of DRV. Ignoring all of the issues with the compounding and volatility, let's pretend the fund can indeed track the market over extended periods (it can't). That would imply the Real Estate Select Sector Index (the index to which DRV offers short exposure) would need to drop 100% to zero, a total wipeout of equity values, and then you'd have a lot more to worry about than your $100K equity. So of course, absent nuclear war, that's a near impossibility, made even more impossible by the compounding and volatility issues that affect the index over time, with no guarantee that DRV has increased at all from the time you bought those options. All the while paying mortgage interest on a Heloc for money that may not be around for long. "
Grabbed a deep ITM DRV call. 5/17 30. easy secure money there with this chart.
DRV is my baby. Up 100% on May $45s bought Monday morning. Get in bb
Waiting for these puts to start printing my money out. Housing market is declining for sure this summer, I'm trying to go in on $DRV call options.
I was diamond handing some DRV calls for like 3 weeks, finally got out at breakeven today lol.
Short-selling stocks or bonds of CRE CLO issuers or investing in hedge funds or ETFs that specialize in shorting or hedging against risks in the commercial real estate market. Some CRE CLO issuers or related companies include: 1. Arbor Realty Trust Inc. 2. Ready Capital Corporation 3. Blackstone Mortgage Trust 4. New York Community Bancorp (mentioned in the article) 5. Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (historical reference) Examples of hedge funds and ETFs that focus on real estate or structured credit markets and may incorporate strategies related to shorting or hedging: 1. **Hedge Funds**: * Och-Ziff Capital Management Group LLC * Canyon Partners * Fortress Investment Group * Citadel LLC * Baupost Group 2. **Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs)**: * ProShares Short Real Estate ETF (REK) * Direxion Daily Real Estate Bear 3x Shares ETF (DRV) * ProShares UltraShort Real Estate ETF (SRS) * ProShares Short High Yield ETF (SJB) * Direxion Daily MSCI Real Estate Bear 3x Shares ETF (DRVN)
Redest day in a while and DRV is down? Interesting
Maybe consider looking at housing market shorts as of now because IDK if you've seen the CPI w/ Shelter, but that shit is headed towards a nosedive. Just check $DRV's prices over the last month to get an idea of what I'm talking about. A call option on that with a decent amount of time to expiration could be well-worth looking into, especially if you start ITM.
DRV is 3x bear on CRE. Could legit climb back to $75 again like it did in October. I’ve ridden this baby from $35-$70+ multiple times. Also short KRE and contrary to popular opinion I think Nvda $600p will print. That stock overran at $350 and has a ton of froth. Methinks they miss on earnings and drop to $528 by Friday
Why isn't DRV mooning lol
Repeat of last year. Regional banks and commercial real estate dying. KRE VNQ puts, DRV calls
Hope y'all had DRV calls :D
And CRE :). DRV calls + VNQ puts is the way
I feel ya! I’ve managed to make a lot on DRV calls and it should ride to $75 again. Played this hard august-October. Good luck amigo!
Real estate death fest is upon us. 2/16 DRV $45c, VNQ $80p
I think they’re pumping REITs expecting Powell to signal May cuts thus creating a selloff later. Buying more DRV calls here
I rode DRV from $37 to $72 this fall, it’s set up for a similar move imo. Lots of hedge funds are setting up short CRE rn. Been buying late feb ATM calls and selling at +50% or so, rinse and repeat
I’ve been looking at DRV for a while but it seems too early.
I’m in here schilling DRV calls all the time. VNQ/MAC puts
DRV is down 17 percent (!). So that means home prices are going to go nuts again?
DRV is gonna hit $70 EOW
Is DRV a good stick to be in if CRE continues to worsen?
Jan KRE, IWM, C, VNQ, QQQ, SPY puts. DRV calls.
I’ve been dollar cost averaging DRV, LABD, TZA, FNGD and SOXS. Currently down 4%, but next drop I’ll be well into the green.
KRE, VNQ, QQQ ATM puts. DRV calls
If you bought VNQ puts and DRV calls yesterday, today is your day
DRV needs a rebound day!
DRV getting absolutely destroyed after going on a super good run
DRV calls to the moon tomorrow
So before or after the election? DRV gained over 50% in 3 months and not sure is going any better.
If anyone in here is looking to make money...VNQ $70p, KRE $35p, DRV $70c. Real estate and regional banks are weak and I've been making a ton off of flipping these...
my thought was that real estate is pricing itself out the market because it keeps going higher but wages aren't keeping up and i was gonna short it using DRV calls. then the interest rates keep going up so the 20 year bonds are dropping and i wanted to buy tbt calls to short the 20yr treasuries. i was gonna buy slightly otm leaps on them. gl mate
Thoughts about TBT and DRV calls?
lookup SRS DRV REK if you guys are for shorting the housing market.
DRN is starting to get close to its GFC lows. Depending on how things go with the US10Y over the next few months to half year, it could possibly even drop below it. The funny thing is that right now the underlying real estate is actually doing fairly well while there was actual blood in the streets back in the GFC. Office REITs are not really all that large a part of the index. So much of this is capital markets driven, and all of the most heavily weighted REITs in the DJ Wilshire REIT index (which does it by market cap, and for which DRN/DRV are 3x proxies) are pretty much in great shape, with strong portfolio, low cost of capital, high liquidity, and the ability to be very opportunistic. DRN is going to be a major long opportunity once this shakes out
only calls I have are DRV and PANW. Nice.
DRV printing but my dawgs in section 8 safe
VNQ puts, DRV calls, IWM puts are lowest hanging fruit rn
DRV but you needed to buy this summer
DRV bets against commercial real estate
My DRV calls and VNQ puts are flying...commercial real estate is collapsing in the background. Banks are next
Anyone else going balls deep in DRV while the 10 yr is going nuts. It’s been printing over the last couple weeks.
If you like buying calls but are feeling bear-curious, DRV
All in on Direxion Daily Real Estate Bear 3X Shares (DRV), let's see how this goes 😈😈😈
I bought DRV and that’s done super well lately now trying to find the next thing to run.
DRV has been a nice ride as of late.
what are some better options than DRV to profit from housing correction ?
DRV getting some pretty high vol today
I bought DRV in the summer and didn't flinch once
Short real estate via DRV until you have enough for a house in cash 
yeah no I've done well on DRV and my major beef with the exposure to MSO to reits... that being said there is a game to be had for property able to be licensed for cannabis use in the US... also watch out for related party trasnactions of buying and renting it back from family.
Does anyone have any insight on DRV?
Why did DRV go down 5% yesterday on a slight Green Day but only up 2% on a big red day.
Naw. Do you honestly believe he SOLD everything??? Maybe he sold a couple thousand shares to cover his original investment plus some, I don't know but he's not your typical scumbag wallstreet trader like you guys portray him as. He doesn't have to say anything. We already know. The system is corrupt. Down to the core. If DRV speaks, wallstreet's finest lawyers are gonna pounce on him. Wallstreet contributes to many politicians so they have a few of them "in their pocket" which is illegal but loosely enforced. I believe, if you're a politician or judge... you SHOULD BE subjected to periodic reviews or investigations. If you're running the fukking country then we (the people) should know if you're taking bribes from big banks and corporations.
DRV, GME Commercial Housing stuff, and inside buys.
I had apple nvda and tsla puts. I got out of tsla and the nvda puts pretty much got me even. Letting these apple puts ride. Not sure if I wanna slap the left overs from tsla into higher puts. Feel like it’s gonna keep gaining no matter what happens in the rest of the market. DRV could pop hard on Wednesday.
Looking at DRV shares and some calls.
DRV calls, VNQ puts. Commercial real estate up today for no reason
People make plenty of money with REITs. There's also DRN/DRV, and with the US10Y moving so much there's plenty going on