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JAWinks

Seems like there’s a solid chance they try to block it because Trump would be salty about Paramount getting denied. It’s also possible the EU doesn’t allow it to prevent monopoly

EyeSea7923

EU becoming 2nd world country due to poor management. Classic EU

Michael_Bhurewala

to all US tech companies complaining about EU fines: FUCKING PAY - or take your shit tech elsewhere thank you for your attention to this matter!

Michael_Bhurewala

then stop operate within EU.... oh wait

_pout_

Much of the EU has already banned them. They're immune here because we worship money instead of looking for alternatives. Defense and space and basically every manufacturing industry depends on their products, which are all derivatives of the same compounds.

Haseki-Hurrem-Sultan

It's also probably the hardest combination to get through UK and EU antitrust too. WBD, Paramount, and Sky/Comcast were all subscale in Europe so I imagine they'd have a relatively easy time getting past regulators. Netflix-WBD is strengthening an already dominant player, so is likely a harder sell to the CMA and EU Commission.

Salty-Bid1597

I don't know if Americans actually listen to anything their government says, but this new "Trump Doctrine"... boy are you cooked. Russia ally, EU enemy, building far right "resistance" in Europe, South America to become vassals, etc, etc. jfc. It's like whiny altright incels 

Flashy_Challenge2428

let's stick to your definition of "safe", which I paraphrase as: under no circumstances will a margin call happen in a black swan situation. What could be such as black swan (which could be defined as: out of the blue, conceivable, yet so seldom that planning/insuring for it is too expensive or complicated)? Well, say a major tsunami or earthquake on the U.S. west coast. Or hot war between Russia and the EU. Or an invasion of Taiwan. Result: stocks drop by 30%, easy. More if there's a margin call avalanche. If we're already in a bear market and are at -25%, then that can add up to -55%. Which is nothing compared to what we experienced in 2008. Remember please that 2008 was comparatively mild because of central bank activism; if the Fed had just adopted a "wait and see" or a "let's let the market purge weak actors" attitude à la 1929 or Japan 1990, it would have turned out much worse. Now imagine a Fed Chair who is a political appointment, but not really qualified. So I'm saying a 80% drawdown is conceivable. Hence, I agree that 1.15 is OK, but more is too risky for me.

Michael_Bhurewala

wen EU dump $2.34T US debt? yes\_pepe.jpg muuuuuuh you don't have the cards

Big_Mouse_Guy

I hate to say it guys...swing trading > options Thank you EU

OtisB

> Meta is constantly punished by Europe simply for existing, You don't think it has anything to do with their repeated violations of EU law? Just a thought....

kingofshitmntt

EU hits Meta with antitrust probe over plans to block AI rivals from WhatsApp [https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/eu-launch-antitrust-probe-into-meta-over-use-ai-whatsapp-ft-reports-2025-12-04/](https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/eu-launch-antitrust-probe-into-meta-over-use-ai-whatsapp-ft-reports-2025-12-04/)

kaapooj

EU hits Meta with antitrust probe over plans to block AI rivals from WhatsApp https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/eu-launch-antitrust-probe-into-meta-over-use-ai-whatsapp-ft-reports-2025-12-04/

lexi_con

According to a transcript obtained by the German outlet, Europe rallied around Volodymyr Zelenskyy and sharply criticized Washington. French President Emmanuel Macron warned the U.S. could be about to “betray” Ukraine, according to a leaked transcript of a call between European leaders strategizing about how to protect Kyiv. The details of the phone call — which took place Monday and involved Macron, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, Finnish President Alexander Stubb, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and others — were published by German magazine Der Spiegel and saw the leaders discussing U.S.-led peace negotiations with Kyiv and Moscow. “There is a possibility that the U.S. will betray Ukraine on the issue of territory without clarity on security guarantees,” Macron said, according to Spiegel, adding there was “a great danger” for Zelenskyy. “The president did not use those words,” Macron’s office said, per Spiegel. A spokesperson for the French foreign ministry said: “Exchanges with our U.S. counterparts are particularly rich. You no doubt saw that the French president received the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the Elysée Palace Monday, and immediately afterwards he debriefed negotiators in Florida and of course President Donald Trump.” Merz chimed in that Zelenskyy had to be “extremely careful in the coming days.” “They are playing games, both with you and with us,” Merz said, seemingly referring to Washington’s envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner — the son-in-law of American President Donald Trump — who spent five hours locked in talks with Russian leader Vladimir Putin on Tuesday. Merz’s spokesperson Stefan Kornelius told POLITICO: “As a matter of principle, I do not confirm or comment on snippets of conversation.” Finland’s Stubb seemed to agree with Merz, according to the transcript. “We cannot leave Ukraine and Volodymyr alone with these guys,” he said, apparently referring to Witkoff and Kushner, which attracted agreement from Rutte. “I agree with Alexander — we must protect Volodymyr [Zelenskyy],” the NATO chief said. NATO declined to comment when reached by POLITICO. “We consider it incorrect to publish any alleged transcripts of the leaders’ conversations, which could harm the diplomatic process — we neither confirm nor deny any of the above,” a Ukrainian diplomat told POLITICO granted anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. “In general, only the Russians benefit from any splits between Europe and America, so our consistent position is that transatlantic unity must be maintained,” the diplomat added. Zelenskyy’s office declined to comment. The call took place after the Trump administration circulated a 28-point peace plan — reportedly drafted by the Kremlin’s envoy Kirill Dmitriev, Witkoff and Kushner — that was criticized by Ukraine and European allies for being too favorable to Russia, and triggered frenzied negotiations in Geneva. Those subsequent talks, attended by European, Ukrainian and American officials, yielded an updated 19-point plan, which Russia has yet to agree to. Moscow has not backed down from its maximalist demands, namely that Kyiv give up vast swathes of unoccupied territory in its east, limit the size of its military and hold new elections. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre and European Council President António Costa also participated in Monday’s call, according to Spiegel. The call also saw the issue of Russia’s frozen assets discussed, Spiegel reported, with some leaders insisting that seizing Moscow’s billions to fund a massive tranche of financial and military aid for Ukraine was a matter for the EU to decide, not the U.S.

borjan13

Someone said puts on META when the EU lawsuit got announced LMAO Fraud = Bullish

Legal_Lettuce6233

Why do you think Palantir exists? Why do you think there's a huge wave in the UK, EU and Australia for chat control and age ID? Yeah, something's coming, and it ain't pretty. I feel like for the first time in years, more alcohol will be burned than drunk.

cloud_cafe

>EU to launch antitrust probe into Meta over use of AI in WhatsApp L M A O

betogess

I moved my money between borders for 0,5 USD fee and completed it in hours. Do that via a Bank outside of EU.

Taraih

You have no clue if you think overregulation is only present in AI topics. The EU is overregulating is so many sectors and its suffocating companies everywhere. Its especially bad in germany.

Key_Problem3604

No, not really. The EU has one of the largest economies in the world. Just because the US is a bit bigger, doesn't mean it's a bad system. The main reason the EU struggles rn is because Germany is in a recession. That is not the fault of over regulation, lol. It's the fault of conservative politicians driving everything to the ground and "saving" instead of reinvesting.

typo9292

The EU missed the AI boom because it was so focused on regulation first. You just proved the point. Fact: regulation will always slow you down and as a US investor I’d almost never invest in an EU business because you are incapable of moving quickly and you lack competitive pressure. Same shit in Canada.

Key_Problem3604

No...? It's a result of... no investment. The government can invest too - using those "high" taxes. Also see the Nordic countries with high taxes and the highest standard of living. The only "over regulation" they have is in regards to AI models, as they cannot really use the private data of their users (which is a good thing imho) to train the models. AI is the only thing keeping the American Economy from collapsing, so I guess it's the loss of the EU to have stronger privacy laws, but well, I think it's a fair trade off.

Prize-Bandicoot-463

Exactly I seen sales decline in the EU so I’m confident this pump was super artificial

Jimbomcdeans

How about EU slams US president over Ukraine deal?

RC-Coola

My friend. Nothing in your statement is true. To think there are companies opening in the US is more than naive. Companies open and close all the time. You’re being lied to. The biggest increase in manufacturing coming into the us was negotiated under Biden. There’s nothing coming. You’re being lied to and the big companies are laying off in record numbers. Again. You’re being lied to. Almost all countries have shored up all agreements with other nations. Almost no deals were made by trump. You remember 90 deals / 90 days? Ya. No significant deals were made. The US 4 biggest trade partners Mexio/china/EU/canada. No deals and soon no tariffs and no deals. Huge loss if the Supreme Court strikes this down. 75% chance now. Kinda funny.

kss2023

true. they should have a majority in US and EU. I guess Taiwan wants TSMC to be local as a shield against china

Significant_Row_5951

Right — and that shows how small Europe’s share actually is. Selling it wouldn’t hurt the U.S., but it WOULD hurt Europe, which is why no EU government is planning it. Reddit’s wild — you give a factual explanation and get downvoted, but nobody offers a counter-argument. Guess people just prefer the dramatic takes.

Aegeansunset12

The EU can’t force us to expand unions or not, the EU in fact forced us to dismantle them in exchange for bailing us out. You’re being reductive

sunta3iouxos

You mentioned Greece, not other countries. Because by comparing Greece with other EU countries in general and not cherry picking you are making a disfavour to yourself

Aegeansunset12

The EU has also forced Poland and Hungary to fix their rule of law. Did you see any of them doing it ? This government brought back the unions that’s a fact.

sunta3iouxos

Work unions are not brought back by the current administrationn, that promoted 13 hours of work, and freedom to employers to do as they like. This was imposed by EU, that states that by 2030(I do not remember the exact date) all EU members should have at least 80% of the working force in a collective contract under work union, or whatever the correct statement is.

Alive-Ad6268

Trumps hostility towards EU definitely was priced into the stock for a while but ASML still growing

greytoc

I think that u/UnitPuzzleheaded3267 may have used the wrong abbreviation. It's usually called a KIID - Key Investor Information Document when referring to a UCITS (undertakings for collective investment in transferable securities). Basically an overly verbose way to say "fund". But for PRIIPs - it's called a KID. For packaged retail investments and insurance products. A KIID is like a type of KID by for UCITS which was a disclosure that is now required. These are all EU requirements for investment products. KIDs and KIIDs are like tear sheets in the US but highly structured and must be in the local language where the investment product is offered.

gamjatang111

>EU considering easing export restrictions on AI chips does this mean it is easier for EU firms to sell their chips to US? or does it mean EU will import more chips

Timeoff98

Easy solution, ban it. I'm joking but USA and EU would do it.

hellojabroni777

taco man just gotta do some airstrikes and pull that “dont retaliate!” and then Maduro probably will seek asylum in EU. any oil or military pump will be short lived like during the Iran situation. however, i remember $husa and $indo did a mini pump during both the iran and israel situations.

NigerianPrinceClub

EU anti tech 😠😠😠

Nukedboomer

You say a lot of nonsense, but do you really think the U.S., with hundreds of thousands of people losing all they have every year due to health costs and the 1% living the dream, while having a president that is spending all that military power to kill a few poor people "supposedly" carrying drugs in small boats, is better than people having healthcare, a kind of equality, and freedom (and that is not everyone having weapons to live like in the Wild West, afraid of being killed at hte school or by their own police or anyone around)? We don't have a big common army, but the EU has 450 million people and 27 armies, most of them quite well-formed and able to fight Russia, who is clearly losing the war against a small country and is desperately pushing (or bribing or blackmailing, who cares) your president to make Ukraine surrender as his army and economy are about to collapse

Salty-Bid1597

Watching America retreat from Europe and liberal democracy in general is like watching Brexit in slow motion again. It started off as a small political adjustment but because of domestic politics they can only ramp up the rhetoric and make it more and harder and stronger. Only a matter of time until the EU is a hostile entity and Russia & China friendly nations, happily selling their population control technologies to the US.

wilson0x4d

my post keeps getting blocked for discord links (of which there are none) +sigh+ third attempt.... "Session Volume Profile" sometimes just referred to as "Volume Profile" -- but there are other volume profile types. if i send someone off to look for an HVN indicator they're going to land on a bunch of content for SVPs that call the entire SVP an HVN -.- and some traders confuse the point of control (POC) as an HVN (rather than the entire channel around the POC.) a good SVP will let you customize the entire channel, a simple SVP won't have any channel support at all (may not even show a POC, just the volumes.) that said you can find custom "hvn" indicators out there, but they vary in visuals and behavior, and you won't find an "HVN" indicator (that is not "custom") on platforms like tos, tasty, tws, nor tradingview. that said, premarket (EU->US) is pretty easy to read, you don't need much other than price action and volume. indicators just give a human (OP) something to focus on while they train their brain to "see liquidity". as a matter of fact, i would be surprised if there isn't at least one youtuber that has covered premarket liquidity. i looked, nothing specific to premarket :( but this vid is solid on the topic of liquidity (i only skimmed through it): YT vid titled "How to Indentify Liquidity Day Trading" by "The Moving Average" and for anyone looking to understand SVP better there is this: YT short titled "How to master volume in trading \[...\]" by "Crypto Trading Strategies" ..and many others, but that one dryly cuts right through the SVP without using incorrect vocabulary. i personally use custom scripts to paint clusters of bars that show abnormal volume (Fx. any volume spike greater than N% of the total volume along a direction/trend, accompanied by a reversal or ranging with no breakthrough.) i use them for alerting on potential breaks (before they're breaks) and if i believe there is liquidity hiding beyond a price line i'll manually mark my charts (there is no indicator that i've seen that can identify liquidity for you.)

Significant_Row_5951

“Dumping U.S. debt” just means selling U.S. Treasury bonds. But even if Europe did it, someone will buy them — Japan, China, banks, hedge funds, or the U.S. Federal Reserve. Europe would only hurt itself by selling at a loss. And importantly: there’s no actual plan from EU governments to do this. It’s mostly a dramatic hypothetical, not a real policy.

Icreatedthisforyou

This is a long haul stock for me. Too solid of a direction to get out even on some of the ups because it could definitely be at a point where it doesn't come down. They have a legitimate product that will expand in revenue in femseed. It is a fertility treatment that is a little more expensive per cycle than IUI but more successful per cycle, which may make it cost competitive. It is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than IVF. It is approved in the EU and in the US. It will occupy an in demand fertility space and one that most couples that IUI fails for them it is going to be tried before IVF. That is just a solid product in a money making space. More recently attention is on Fembloc which is approved in the EU and other places in the world and will be ramping up deployment in those areas where it is approved as that is still new. But they have a monopoly on those places on non-surgical permanent female sterilization. In the US it has to finish the FDA approval process but that is likely only a matter of time, and again they would have a monopoly on a non-surgical sterilization method. The fact they have not one but two functioning products, and they occupy a unique and in demand space for both, with an out right monopoly for one of them, makes it insane to me that this is a penny stock still compared to some of the pharmacy and biotech companies. It is a company diversified in Long term reproductive issues with both permanent non surgical sterilization for women AND a fertility treatment. They have captured both the child free and the baby making crowds of people. They have more assets than debt and while they are still bleeding money at the present going through final phase trials in the US for Fembloc and they are in the process of ramping up delivery of what is approved since those are still fairly new. I have zero regrets holding this bag as it absolutely will be a money maker either by late 2026 or in 2027 at the latest. I could see it going a bit early just in expectation. The only thing holding it down in the present is uncertainty if they will be above $1 for 10 days before mid January. And it is flirting hard with that line, and even so it almost certainly would get an extension. I ain't really have free cash to play with because as I free money up it is going into femy. As things stand it may not make as much as some potential rockets... But this feels like the easiest and safest 2x or 3x in 18 months I have seen, but I would be SHOCKED if it didn't +5x in the next 24 months. As already approved products become proven products with no competitors for the foreseeable future. Like if fembloc is approved it has no competition for a decade at least.

baseballer213

Think of the bond market like a seesaw: when people dump treasuries, the immense supply forces prices down, which automatically pushes yields up. If the EU dumps, long-term bond funds (like TLT) would get absolutely hammered because they are stuck holding older, lower-paying paper that nobody wants anymore. SGOV is different because it has zero commitment issues. It holds bills that mature in 0-3 months, so it barely flinches at price drops because the duration is so short. Instead of your principal tanking, SGOV just rolls over into those new, higher-yielding bills almost immediately. You wouldn’t see a price crash; you’d just see your monthly payout go up while long-term holders weep.

swampwiz

The EU (or anyone else) selling the bonds would make the bond prices go down, which means the interest rate for the bonds would go up. I'm not sure how the currency exchange would work, but I think they wouldn't move too much. The way to invest in such a scenario would be in an inverse bond ETF. Oh, СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ ГЕРОЯМ!

swampwiz

The EU can basically stop any company it wants from doing business in the EU - that's a lot of business to give up by not submitting to their rules.

Titanium-Marshmallow

It will hit hit the fan across all assets except perhaps gold. And maybe crypto? It truly is a nuclear option if EU dumps their treasuries. Prices down, yield up, who will blink? Who will buy? A shitshow. When you invest in a bond fund (SGOV, TLT etc) there is no concept of holding to maturity. If the market price of bonds drops, then the NAV of the fund drops and you may not ever get your principal back.

red_knight11

Sounds like the EU should have had more weapons instead of spending all their money on free education, healthcare, and other social services they always boast about. Who knew having more weapons and much higher military spending would be needed when an evil superpower lives next door? Who knew that neighbor, who constantly invades Soviet-era land that are now free countries, would invade again?!?!?! *“We swore Russia pinky promised that they wouldn’t invade any European country ever again!!! That’s why Germany allowed a Russian pipeline for energy where Russia controls the tap. They pRoMiSeD!!1!1!!”* The EU leaders have below room temperature IQ. They don’t have the weapons to help Ukraine now. They already ran through their own stockpiles. Even if they could receive trillions from the US, they still have issues procuring. It’s a lose-lose situation unless Europe can increase the sourcing of materials, vastly increase the number of laborers, increase efficiency and output and actually produce enough to meet the demand (matching the missing U.S. help they’ll cease) all while Ukraine continues losing fighting age men until Europe’s defense industry ramps up. Russia has a generational population bust. The best result is to sign a peace agreement and take back what Ukraine lost at a later date once Russia’s population collapses. The main reason Russia invaded Ukraine when they did was the result of Russia having the most fighting age men they’ll ever have for the next few generations. And all the male deaths have only increased the length of time until they can get their population back. Even mass immigration won’t get them back to their 2022 fighting age male demographic for another hundred years

swampwiz

YIKES! I am a USA citizen that will soon be a dual-citizen with Spain (grandfather was born there), and spend a lot of time in the EU. I've learned that if I stay in any country longer than 183 days, I am considered a tax resident of that country - with income tax assessed on world-wide income (!) - so I have to move around to avoid that. This just adds more fuel to the fire for making sure I am only a resident officially of the USA (for which a citizen only needs to be around 35 days in a 365 day period).

hotmic247

The poor get equal pto in EU.  You get 0 guaranteed pto in USA. 

BaronCapdeville

It very nearly did stop at 1. In fact, it was almost not dropped at all. 2 were dropped because the Japanese failed to issue their surrender, and were engaged in a “fight to the last woman and child” suicide cult type mentality that was driven by a number of factors that western folks don’t often appreciate. The dynamic the Japanese culture and military apparatus had with their Emperor was not well understood, even at the time. After the first blast, it seemed unfathomable that the Japanese would not surrender. Even then, many were against the second bomb. I’m not trying to whitewash American history. We absolutely crushed entire cities of innocents due to no-quarter type of fighting they saw in the pacific islands. War is hell, and no amount of victory washes away the stain of what we did. That said, even when we had decent reason to drop 2, we still almost didn’t. Today is a different animal. Numerous nuclear players, all with varying protocol about how/when/where they are used. An unknown amount of rogue/missing warheads in circulation. It’s an absolute powder keg. One redeeming factor involved in the current nuclear scenario is that, should a real launch be hinted at via intelligence, the pre-emptiness strategy of the US/EU/NATO is significant, much of which has likely been augmented with tech most us have never even heard of. I’m not saying we have the ability to prevent nuclear holocaust, I’m simply saying we have a slightly better handle on things than it may appear on the surface. It would still be hellish to see a detonation today, and it could spiral into a true apocalypse, but there are absolutely forces in play, at all times, directly off the coast of most nuclear capable nations, designed to at least limit the amount of runaway destruction.

Tuklimo

I think they will try. They'll attack a Baltic state, maybe take Narva for example. Worst case scenario for them is that NATO fights back strongly, pushes them back to the Russian border, and they lose many soldiers and equipment. They're already doing that in Ukraine so it's not that bad for them. Then they know NATO has teeth and they'll leave us alone for a decade or 2. Best case scenario, NATO doesn't fight back so much, Russia stops and says "we were just doing this because you were threatening, we stop here now, let's talk peace". And they'll know NATO doesn't have teeth and they can keep on going like that. Only if NATO fights back very strongly and counterattacks in a powerful way, including strikes on deep Russian territory, and enters the war to liberate Ukraine, will this be a true defeat for Russia. The thing is, they bet the US won't actually enter a war with them over a Baltic state. And frankly, seeing how Trump is simping to them, they might be right. Even Obama didn't act against them when they entered Syria in favor of Assad (after years of saying the US couldn't go there and defend the people) even though he said that was a red line. Also, if a ceasefire comes about in Ukraine, that gives Putin even more leeway to attack a Baltic state. The EU knows that, Trump either knows or is too stupid/evil to care. Might even be that they have a deal: I let you do whatever in Venezuela if you let me do whatever in Estonia.

runmeupmate

I don't believe the EU owns or has any debt. EU members won't though because returns of US debt are better than euro denominated debt. The Atlantic council has too much influence over europe for them to seriously consider that - if China doesn't why would an american satellite?

Shigonokam

Recent NATO mews states that EU/NATO is preparing a preemptive attack on Russia? Where did you find these "NATO news"?

Powerful-Load-4684

This is EU/UK and again is a tax classification of dividends. You are so dense lmfao

Overall-Avocado-7673

There is not going to be a war between NATO/EU and Russia. Hell, half of them are still buying oil from Russia. This post really doesn't belong in this sub.

designatedcrasher

Which leaves the EU out of pocket a few trillion

raruna461

If the EU actually hits Meta with a €1 billion fine, it will definitely sting not just financially but reputationally.

Adexavus

Indeed they could but this needs NATO cooperation considering how 50+ years of US post WW2/Cold War frame work solidified itself over time. So a deal needs US backing and if its a US deal then it needs EU backing. The current admin for the US isnt taking this seriously and the Russians dont take the peace talks seriously, as in the example of Putin blowing off meetings in Turkey and Hungary.

Nukedboomer

Since Trump took the White House, Americans are not fighting in any European war, nor are they paying for one. Trump proudly proclaimed that the EU is paying for U.S. weapons for Ukraine with a 15% surcharge. And now he's trying to force Ukraine and the EU to agree to a "peace plan" that was literally written in Russian and is a Russian wish list that could destroy the EU. This is with his usual sole intention of doing business with Russia for his own gains, nothing for Americans. So yes, the EU needs to defend itself from Trump, and if he remains in power, making business for him and his friends instead of governing a country, many worse crises will arise and no allies will be left anywhere. The level of disinformation there is stunning

DegenGonnaDegen

Oh, so you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll be nice because English isn't your language and it's impressive enough you can converse this well with me. It's one thing EU does have over us, the amount of languages you can speak.

Many_Perspective2594

Lmao, EU house are build solid, how is your treehouse doing

DegenGonnaDegen

EU "homes" are the size of sheds here. Hows that air conditioning??

hotmic247

Europeans: 28+ paid days off every year for all EU countries. Anericans: 0 guaranteed paid time off.  

DegenGonnaDegen

Cause EU has no money left to pump it. You had a good run (not really, lots of death and misguided aggression)

Many_Perspective2594

Ameripoor. EU pump it from -0.2 to 0.3 and u start selling. Sad.

Bright-Tomatillo5203

tbh, Yeah, if the EU dumps treasuries, it could shake things up. Rates might spike, and everyone’s holding the bag.

Acrobatic-Key-9857

Yeah, if the EU dumps treasuries, it could crete a big ripple effect. It’s a messy situation for sure.

oberwolfach

Everyone, including the EU, will lose a lot of money.

gagagagaNope

Yep. Co-pay is the way. Embed personal responsibility. For UK socialists, it's the only area where they don't claim the EU is miles better than the UK. Much of europe has immeasurably better outcomes, often at much lower cost. For them the only two healthcare models are the NHS or an uninsured person in the USA.

kfkots

EU is mostly done for. Unless you are European yourself, do not invest EU.

Diddly_eyed_Dipshite

Is your EU positions an ETF or individual stocks, and if so what sectors you mostly in?

RafaelSeco

Tesla hasn't released anything relevant in years. There's nothing new in sight, the cyber truck was an absolute failure. Iet, the stock goes to the moon. You can only have capital gains if there are dividends to be paid. Otherwise, the stock is worthless... Or a meme stock, and by that point, it's not an investment, it's gambling. If a mature, well established, well regulated company that consistently turns a way higher profit is basically worthless next to a company that it dwarfs, on paper, something must be wrong. Volkswagen is worth 60B and turned 17B in profit last year. Tesla is worth 800B and turned 8B in profit last year. Volkswagen invests a lot more into research and development than Tesla, so they are more likely to grow in the future... Why doesn't Tesla just buy Volkswagen? They are worth so much, surely they have the money? Why don't they have the money? Because it doesn't exist. It's fake money, value based on the last share sold. I own a company. I sell 49% of the shares to Mr A. Mr A sells 1% of the shares to you for an astronomical amount of money, 250P/E. The company would, on paper, be worth an absolute fortune, and it didn't get a single cent of actual investment. Are you starting to see the problem? OpenAI is not selling shares in order to gather investment, but they are making commitments based on their market cap. Where is the money? How are they going to pay 1.5T next year? They can't, and the US government will have to bail them out, otherwise everything comes crumbling down. Meanwhile, in the EU, the economy is stagnant, infrastructure is built, cars get sold, life quality improves. But hey, your change to make some sweet profits on capital gains is gone...

analbuttlick

Its up 100% ytd mate. I have some BABA and tencent for China exposure and GOOGL and AMZN for US exposure. Rest is all EU for me

runmeupmate

I really don't care about tesla. But it's worth pointing out that tesla is the reason the EU enacted electric car mandates; the german makers would never had moved out of their comfort zone with a new technology. The american economy is the best in world in every respect and keeps getting better faster. Labour productivity hasn't stopped increasing for the past 20 years, unlike in europe which has been stagnant since 2008. This is why you are probably mostly invested in american companies like I am - better growth, better stock value.

antoine1246

Eu valuations are relative. If everyone thinks EU is trash and its slightly less trash, valuations rise as well as currency. US owns all tech, M7, etc. For years the EU was known for cars but instead of being innovative and reducing waste, we got things like the volkswagen scandal, spending billions to invent cheap tricks to fake lower waste. All this while china was actually being innovative and has 100+ electric car brands. In 10 years we will see the effect of this Also, SP500 has a valuation of over 45T, eu markets get nowhere close

Fitzcablammo

I hope EU does dump that $2 Trillion in US debt and tips the USA in to economic catastrophe.

MirthandMystery

And one thing never talked about is how the great Covid crash of 2020 happened months after the building crisis of 0% interest (payout) rates where banks didn't want your cash and certainly didn't want to pay you anything for holding it. It was a huge pressure building in EU and UK too where banks were losing money holding cash, unsustainable and a freakish situation. It's all they talked about in Dec and Jan into early Feb. The FED wouldn't raise rates and kept lowing them, creating a 'perfect storm' conditions. I still wonder if a small otherwise manageable covid crisis was somewhat manufactured and amplified into a large one given we were on the brink of major economic dislocations naturally. Something had to give, it was crazy the amount of cash and debt floating around. Mohammad El Arian called the black swan saying in late Feb 2020 any lasting global shut down due to lockdowns and employers losing workers, would result in supply chain mayhem, creating real problems and inflation due to scarcity and unreliability of shipped goods that our economy relied on, and other countries. The silence from the pros listening to him was deafening, and I got chills. He was dead right. There was no way to avoid what was coming. Stocks began selling off that week. That we were able to get back to higher interest rates was a near miracle. Such crazy system it requires it, which hurts regular consumers. Trump just wants us back to 0-1% again since it helps his own huge loan costs. He'll never use his own grift-gotten and fake crypto cash to pay down debt.

leeuwvanvlaanderen

Incredible that manufacturing everywhere is getting absolutely hammered. US, china, Japan, EU all fuk 

RafaelSeco

Tell me. How much has openAI promised to invest next year, how much have they committed, and how much do they profit? 1.5 trillion dollars. That's 1.5 million millions... Enough to buy each american a Ferrari. How much do they profit (including deals made with companies that directly invest in them)? 20 billion, 20,000 millions. How can a company that makes 20k a year make a commitment to spend 1.5 million next year? Where is the money coming from? And it doesn't end there. Do GPUs last long? If they do, then how is Nvidia going to sell so many of them every year? If they don't, then who can afford to spend hundreds of billions per year to keep stuff up to date? What about powe, if they are already limited by power consumption, why isn't the US government investing in infrastructure? Heck, why did it cut funds to renewables? There's no plan. Europe isn't all in on AI. But guess what, yesterday, another section of the world's biggest fusion reactor has been completed... The Renault 5, and 4, and Twingo, and all their new "made 100% in the EU" stuff that's selling like cupcakes (heck, it's such a good deal that I'm buying one) won't last? Tesla has completely disappeared from the top 25 most sold cars in Europe... The world's "biggest" car company doesn't even break the top 25 in Europe anymore. That should tell you all... Why is Tesla worth so much? Why is the stock worth so much? You could tell me that Tesla could be making huge profits in the future and handing out dividends to all the shareholders, but that's not true. Even if it was, Elon would make sure you wouldn't get anything with his pay packages. Why is the stock worth what it is? If it's going to go up, why? Why would anyone buy it, if they're never going to see a single dividend?

runmeupmate

ECB is projecting 1.3% growth in 2027 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/projections/html/index.en.html >People need to realise that shares exist for one thing, and one thing only. Dividends. That's not true, or at least it shouldn't be >Making your GDP skyrocket is easy, all you need is 3 companies, deregulation, and a bubble.. Those companies are making massive profits and all of them are larger than most european countries' economies. The made in EU thing won't last and is based on a country by country basis. It isn't profitable to any of that stuff in europe any more; deindustrialisation will continue and making a few fighter jets isn't going to stop that

No_Aerie_2717

They have already made deals with different EU/ASIA countries. I do not think that geopolitics are obstacle for this company due EU banned LNG imports from Russia etc.

Dapper-Box-3111

And the EU wonders why it’s no longer competitive and is an afterthought when it comes to AI and innovation.

RafaelSeco

2% growth of what? Stock values? Car companies are selling more cars, industry and construction is booming, we're even back to making stuff 100% in the EU. People need to realise that shares exist for one thing, and one thing only. Dividends. You buy a share, the company gets investment money, the company develops and sells a product, makes profit, and you then get a share of those profits. If the company, or someone else wants to buy back your shares, cool, but the objective should always be to get a return on investment in 5-6 years. Making your GDP skyrocket is easy, all you need is 3 companies, deregulation, and a bubble...

Outrageous_Tip_2133

margin calls triggered by BTC selloff in Asia. Will probably continue when the EU and US markets open.

ZoominBoomin

Shit weather and shit food. Now they can't even call themselves part of the EU. Must suck. Europe is fucked anyways. 

FeverTreeCloud

They voted for Brexit and bitch about Brexit all the time. Hear them complain that they have to stand in line with Ameripoors 🇺🇸 at airports and train stations instead of using the express EU line they used to 🤣

Daymjoo

Oh no, the US ignoring the WTO or NATO? That would be crazy... Bro, just a few months ago you bombed the shit out of a sovereign country while the entire EU was begging for a negotiated, diplomatic solution. What are you talking about? And your president gave 0 fucks about your congress when he bombed Iran, a de facto declaration of war, why would he care now?

AllCapNoBrake

I can't wait for the masses to realize that the entire western society (EU/Canada/US) are run by the same zionist machine. DJT is just a smol hat democrat thrown in to gently ease the US into Bolshevism which is what Harris was tapped to do, but she wouldn't have leaned SO much into MIGA, as DJT very clearly has.

Daxnu

EU defense arms stock go way up, no one wants to trust American military tech as the US can just shut down their weapon via wifi

Sarcasm69

Just like when they told us EU tech is coming in hot... Investment this year has been piss relative to the US.

godmademelikethis

Peace talks on the table. With sanctions lifting being discussed (disgusting). I want war, and not just because my UK/EU defence pie was doing so well.

John_OSheas_Willy

Ukraine wants to give 0% but knows it's in a lose lose situation. Ukraine doesn't need to join NATO to have backing of EU armies. If Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Italy etc. can't beat Russia, they're fucked.

Crypto_Force_X

Couple weeks ago I heard they approached EU with hopes to secure more deals. My guess is you are right.

Diddly_eyed_Dipshite

Thanks, firstly not the UK, I'm EU and using T212. I'd rather not open up another platform account and prefer to keep everything together, but will keep looking for an ETF that suits to consolidate and reduce individual holdings. Appreciate the response, some suggestions I'm getting make it seem like I'm totally fucking myself over and it'll be the ruin of me financially. I'm not expecting to beat the market long term by holding these stocks, but I'm the short term, yeah I would think that by next year at least half of those tech names I will be able to trim profits and add that cash straight into the ETF. I'm not greedy or expecting 10 baggers but in the short term (1,2,3 yrs) AI, semiconductors, data centre infrastructure will return greater gains than the market rate and I want to capture some of that.

gibe93

but by the time that can happen the US and EU will have enough chip manufacturing

Clear_Anything1232

Fucking EU politicians is what you get when you let Linkedin Lunatics lead people Someone should be declared war criminal for that stupid cookie banners I'm forced to click everyday 5 mins

kaapooj

Privacy in EU is soon dead EU countries reach breakthrough on chat-scanning law despite intense pushback "[...] messaging services such as WhatsApp and Signal would be allowed to voluntarily install software for automated chat monitoring, and the scope of such monitoring could even be expanded. Mandatory measures are to be reconsidered in the future." https://www.mpg.de/25788438/chat-control-eu-client-side-scanning

kaapooj

EU can't help themselves, regulation over everything Belgian Federal Police forgot to turn their VPN on - accidentally exposing their bot army that was promoting a mandatory data retention surveillance law within the EU's impact assessment https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/z4tDalBSmq

rmcandre

This highlights an ongoing regulatory challenge for Meta. The $12-14B estimate represents roughly 10-12% of Meta's annual revenue, though not all would disappear under enforcement. The EU's Digital Services Act gives regulators power to impose fines up to 6% of global revenue, making a €1B fine plausible but not catastrophic (Meta's 2023 revenue was ~$135B). The bigger concern is potential impacts to their advertising model if forced to implement stronger verification systems. This pattern mirrors previous regulatory cycles where Meta absorbs fines as a cost of doing business while adapting compliance measures gradually.

6541191

You might want to look at EURO STOXX indices ETFs which track companies from Eurozone countries specifically. SPDR EURO STOXX 50 ETF (FEZ) or iShares Core MSCI Eurozone ETF (HEZU) both focus on EU countries and exclude the UK. The Vanguard FTSE Europe ETF (VGK) is popular but does include UK stocks (about 20%), so it's not purely EU. The iShares MSCI Eurozone ETF (EZU) is probably the closest to what you're seeking - it's focused specifically on EU member states that use the Euro.