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Heidruns_Herdsman

EU is doing a deal with Canada right now.

LazyBondar

Forgot to mention in the post - I would not invest if the drug was not already approved at EU & UK .. and you and I know that EU is much more strict with approvals than FDA which makes this a very special case.

Brisbanoch30k

No one will force the US out of NATO. The Europeans will leave it. Tomato-Tomahto in the end, but here we are. Putin would likely very quickly push for destabilization and/or military incursion in the Baltic, and the US would just evacuate their personnel there. Prompting the EU country with US bases still on their territory to pack up and leave, while mobilizing to face Russia on their own. China may well be using the ensuing chaos (probably treasury bonds dump and various European commercial retaliations) to pounce on Taiwan. MAGA doesn’t like or want alliances. They want a map that says “Murican’empire” as a neat bloc on a map. Lebensraum 2.0

mettaCA

Any corporation that imports most of their goods should benefit, especially from countries with the highest tariffs. * **Brazil and India**: Both at **50%** on most imports, among the steepest in the world under the reciprocal tariff framework. * Other high-rate countries include select nations like Lesotho (up to 50% in some references) and certain penalized partners facing 40–50% effective rates without bilateral deals. For context: * Many countries negotiated reductions (e.g., EU at \~15%, Vietnam reduced from 46% to lower via agreements, Switzerland to 15%). * China faces layered tariffs: legacy Section 301 rates (often 7.5–25% on covered goods), plus additional IEEPA/fentanyl-related duties (reduced to 10% in late 2025 agreements), and potential reciprocal elements—resulting in high but variable effective rates (sometimes exceeding 50% on specific products, though not uniformly 50% baseline). * Canada and Mexico have exemptions for much trade under USMCA, keeping effective rates lower despite threats.

CelerMortis

> It is simply the threat of American retaliation. It’s way more than this, although this is undoubtedly a factor. Two I can think of off the top of my head: 1. China is on the ascendancy, both literally from a GDP/trade perspective and reputation. The US is punching itself in the dick, China is making cool cars and not blundering about in the Middle East or whatever. EU is fractured and increasingly at odds with the US. And things seem to be getting better in the east and worse in the west. Every single headline around the world is clowning the US head of state, we hardly hear anything at all about Xi. Why would they fuck with a winning hand? If they invade Taiwan even successfully the entire world unites against them. 2. Taiwan has chip production that the world needs, including China. It’s not like they can invade and just take over these plants, they’ll be destroyed on the way out as a deterrent. By the time China plants it’s flag, it will be a smoldering pile of ash.

Econmajorhere

Let me educate you on European companies. Between month long vacations, weekly national holidays, sick days, mental health days, and casual Fridays - they work maybe 3/4 of the year. They are quite proud of this and it’s usually the part Americans are jealous of. Now for the times they do work, the companies are virtually impossible to scale due to intense labor laws. Hired a boner? That sucks, can fire him if you pay one year’s salary. Otherwise better hope they recover productivity. The salaries are significantly lower and personal taxes are much higher so it’s virtually impossible to attract top talent. Some EU companies with import Africans and Indians to give them low paying roles and get higher productivity in return - they call this altruism for helping the poors. Suppose one of these people shows tremendous talent - they will never be promoted to a high enough level as the owner’s one night bi-curious experience partner will rank higher on the list. Merit means less than ethnicity/language there. So now you have lethargic companies operated by people that jerk off to their history more than figuring out how to scale. The few immigrants pushing the ball forward there will get lumped in with their right-wing movements against crime/foreigners. US dicks around a ton and will undoubtedly elect someone that makes USD and US stocks decline compared to EU. This will always be short lived.

Fantastic-Ice-1402

I bought NATO ETF https://themesetfs.com/etfs/nato But there’s UK/EU defense companies like BAE Systems, Safran, Rheinmetall, Thales

team_ti

EU would roll over like a good little lap dog

team_ti

Nah. EU will register strong disapproval

HOMO_FOMO_69

"no one lifted a finger" tells us all we need to know about this low-effort slop post.... First of all, you have no idea what other countries are doing... Second, no modern government is going to feel compelled to make split second decisions when there is no immediate threat to their own country... Most governments tend to plan before they act. EU, UK, France, Germany - are going to spend several days or weeks deliberating and strategically planning out and likely coordinating their reactions. Germany will ask France, "whose side are y'all going to align with" and then France will go and tell UK that Germany is going to go this way so UK will put out this statement and France will double cross them and actually go the other way after UK makes their statement. Then China will say "We are one China" and Norway will say "that other side is wrong". Finally Australia will chime in and say "that's not a knife, this is a knife" - and who knows what happens then.

tanhan27

Canada has recently become the first non European nation to join EU's Security Action for Europe (SAFE) defense initiative. The USA is not a part of that one....

AttentionFormer4098

Very unlikely. If they take Greenland, what’s to stop the U.S. from moving on and taking another piece of EU territory? Where does it end? That would be an attack on the sovereignty of an EU country. For that same reason, the EU has cut ties with Putin.

AttentionFormer4098

EU would side with Denmark, Greenland is part of Denmark.

No-Contribution1070

The E.U. would hand Greenland to U.S. on a platter if it means protection for then against Russia and China. I think you have your geopolitcs mixed up.. It's U.S. and EU against Russia and China is what WW3 would look like. EU would never side with China or Russia.

No-Contribution1070

The EU would NEVER go to war against U.S... let me repeat. Never! The vatican wont allow it either. Sorry to say.

CapoDoFrango

And meanwhile you are it make it open for trading 24h per day 365 days per year. Also add strong futures and options markets and lower fees. EU is very far from the US in terms of competitiveness of financial markets. This could help-

AttentionFormer4098

One thing is getting involved with Venezuela, and another is getting involved with Greenland. Greenland is part of NATO, and that would imply the United States entering into a direct conflict with the EU.

dawgtor

Fuck it conquer EU while we at it

CapoDoFrango

Hi missed the part of when Canada joins the EU

wikiot

Lol, yeah right. The US would wipe out the leadership of all major EU nations and install their own leaders and become the European States of America.

wikiot

I doubt there would be a war over Greenland, the EU would not engage and more likely roll over. The "world" will continue to hate on the US regardless of what they do.

ShittyUsernane1222

\> US gathering forces in middle east \> US beginning an military campaign in south america The EU better invest in that strategic autonomy or they will be cooked, fried, filleted by 🥭.

vag_pics_welcomed

I don’t like it either as an American, but the fucking EU leaders a spineless pieces of shit, so they go along with it. They all just wait for their orders from the orange shit stain.

Ranger523

That sounds nice on paper but wouldn't Russia China and US all be doing the same to EU? The problem with any action of that nature is the world's circle jerk of debt to each other.

Robodr0ne

True that. EU needs to spend a lot to catch up.

Michael1199

Moving away from US... going where? EU economy is not in a good condition either.

Brisbanoch30k

The EU members would leave. So the end of NATO period. Putin’s wet dream.

GraceOfTheNorth

Staffing problems and lack of infrastructure, but this is partially solved with commitment from the Greenlandic government for an airport and township infrastructure. There is a town nearby, people who still live there because of previous mining operations. Amaroq is reopening older mines that weren't viable when commodities were priced much lower (esp. silver) and energy prices were higher for smelters. Now commodities pricing is totally different and the need for silver acute so the numbers make sense on Pb and Zn alone, Au and Ag are just gravy. While they do smelt Au themselves they've secured smelting of the Black Angel mine in Canada so energy shouldn't be a problem and we know there are secure buyers. They've been able to utilize a lot of the previously established infrastructure. Biggest threat is that Trump and USA annex Greenland and literally steal the mine, or that *the threat of it keeps investors away and they run out of money* \- but since Amaroq is funding the Black Angel operations with their recently online Au mine they'll be running operations on their own capital. My dream scenario would be a massive injection of capital to ramp production up on the Black Angel mine asap. Europe sees Greenland as one of its most important strategic 'assets' (minerals for tech) and Greenland secures EU's control over the Arctic sea route, which is probably what Trump is mostly after... besides cracking up NATO bc Putin said so. I'm name dropping them here bc. I think it is important to keep distributed ownership of the mine, it is one of few mining companies out there that is not owned by a massive conglomerate. Which also makes them vulnerable to being squeezed out IF the big guys come knocking. What they do have is the trust of the Greenlandic government which is better than gold, it's led by Icelanders and Canadians who are determined to respect Greenland's sovereignty and act ethically and responsibly. I think that cooperation is probably the company's biggest strength - besides the outstanding ore assessments and current commodities pricing. I'm not an insider, I invested in them on a whim (I'm Icelandic and thought it sounded cool to have 'assets in gold') and then started digging into their operations. My father is a big-project geologist so I had him review the practicalities of their projects but since then Amaroq has secured a third mining license and seems to be getting more backup from the Greenlandic government. I might add that they do not have futures deals made for the minerals, no large buyer secured - which also means that they are completely free agents to ride the upside of where the current minerals market is going, especially Ag.

Express_Owl1645

Exactly. As a European citizen I’m ashamed of our representatives. Ursula von der Leyen…. what a figurehead. Someone who managed to fuck up every office she’s ever had in Germany… put into the highest position within the EU, unelected, through some political bargaining that took place behind closed doors. What a leader…

Express_Owl1645

> the EU will step in and have a lot to say about it The EU will do fuck all about it. It’s not even a paper tiger, nobody gives a damn about the EU or its values. 

wikiot

Basically...it's ridiculous that people think that Europe has some sort of military might or force to deter America or even China from doing what they will.  As a Canadian I hear too much that we should unfriend America and tie ourselves to the EU. It may make sense if we were geographically closer to the EU, but that is not the case as the majority of our population lives within 100km to the US/Canada border. 

astroslostmadethis

Buy palantir and EU defense stocks

Jupitersd2017

Here we go, no one will step in about Venezuela but if he actually tries to take Greenland the EU will step in and have a lot to say about it.

ThaliaFaye

For context, I am Asian with Chinese heritage so this is how I personally feel about the geopolitical situation over here. I believe that China won't actually do anything until they have the capability to match TSMC in chip manufacturing. They have too much to risk. However, when they manage to figure out EUV lithography and are able to create their own high-end chips, that's when Taiwan will be in real danger. China wouldn't need to go through a full-scale invasion, they could simply take out TSMC fabs (or threaten Taiwan enough for them to go scorched earth) and the West would be immediately crippled. This is exactly why the US (and EU) needs to step up and reduce dependency on TSMC within the next decade. They know this too, hence Biden's CHIPS act of 2022. I would invest in Intel for now even despite their historically shit management, they're probably the only US-based company right now that would be anywhere close to adapting in a post-TSMC world.

Poldi-1

As a EU citizen I fear we would chicken out. But we would write a few very angry letters to the US government

Bendy_McBendyThumb

The people in my family who voted for Brexit, are upset about everything still, and yet they say they’ll fuck off to Ireland or Poland if they have to. So, the EU can’t be that bad if they (and practically every other leave voter who regrets their vote, but not for the right reasons) want to fuck off there again even after voting to get us out of it. Is the EU perfect? No, but find me somewhere that is. I won’t hold my breath.

Soros_katonaja

I believe China is really close to have the perfect opportunity to invade Taiwan. But I don't think they will immediately perform a landing operation. More likely they will put Taiwan under blockade. They already have a big enough navy, and the US Navy is a bit stretched out, it has to maintain presence in the Middle East and Venezuela. Also the US successfully alienated it's allies like the EU countries. If China puts Taiwan under blockade it will be very costly for the US to break it. Most likely they will not do any military intervention, the blockade will remain for a few weeks or months. And eventually the Taiwanese government gives in and surrenders. I could see a scenario that they will be granted to get away with mild consequences if they don't destroy their foundries and give it to China. That would be a huge win for China and huge loss for the USA.

Sinai

If anything this is going to make China take a step back. US operational security, obfuscation ability, and logistics put on an absolute show, and Trump showed again terrifying willingness to take rapid unilateral action.  The EU is largely irrelevant in the Pacific theater and has been for decades. The real players are Japan, Korea, US, and even Australia, Thailand or Vietnam are much more important than EU, which has essentially zero military presence.  If you're China, much easier to wait until Trump is out of office before even thinking about making waves. 

dAn_tHe_mAn7

This is not entirely true, if you are talking about electricity then yes but if you are talking about total energy the EU on gets less than 23% from renewables, The EU has an energy crisis and as a European in Western Europe bills are very expensive because of this.

kiyomoris

I like how americans keep talking about oil as if they were in the 80s. I am glad EU already has 50% of their energy coming from renewables.

thd-ai

I think everyone agrees that the US is currently a better place for innovation than the EU. I’m not betting against the US. On the contrary. I have almost 0 european stocks. And i’m fine to have currency risk on individual stocks but i’m just wondering for a large portion of my portfolio what to do with sp500 and qqq etf’s. I’m kind of wondering to do a 50% usd sp500 and 50% euro hedged sp500 etf. Same for qqq

thd-ai

It’s exactly this. Ofcourse US innovates faster than EU. We’ve fallen asleep here in the EU and with all our laws are fcking up innovation too. But yeah it’s not because innovation is faster in the US that the currency itself is good. I mean this year the sp500 did 15% or what was it in usd but in eur we only did 5%

SimplyEbic

True but China can only pull that play so many times before the US and EU start seriously firing back with their own restrictions. China's economy is much more reliant on keeping trade up then we are. EU will follow the US because we have every relevant company working with chip production, and our supply restricted means theirs is too.

horsepoop

Not just that , also implications for the world. What stops china from moving on Taiwan now? And other countries? What stops the USA from taking Greenland now and more? Will UN or EU sanction USA? What then? All our war? USA is destroying itself with Trump, and with it the world. This if far bigger than speculation on share prices 

OneTwoThreePooAndPee

You're just thinking of China and the US. There is a whole other world who are, RIGHT NOW, doing their own internal calculus of whether to remain on the side of western powers (honestly, including the EU) or break toward China. Part of China's calculation is the international backlash. The enforcer of that backlash traditionally has been the USA, and we just sacrificed the moral high ground by doing exactly what China wants to do. It matters.

IntelligenzMachine

A lot of the old boring UK/EU companies steadily print money at cheap valuations. It is basically Warren Buffett territory. HSBC 17 P/E, 50% gain last year, 5% dividend yield, slow and steady Asian expansion.

draw2discard2

Your overall point is sound but I would be wary of too easily buying into the part of "Maduro is illegitimate" especially. Everything people in the U.S., and much of the world hear about this is filtered through Western, and mostly American, media. What in the world do you expect a country that has been bent on regime change for over two decades tell its citizens? And "illegitimate" is relative. There are numerous countries around the world--let's take France and Germany for example--where unpopular leaders have managed to keep the reins of power against enormous domestic electoral forces. Countries like Bulgaria and Moldova had heavy thumbs on the scale from the EU. A significant portion of the U.S. believed that Biden was illegitimate, lol. So once you get into the game of deciding that the White House or the Washington Post or the New York Post will determine the path of sovereign nations you are already way, way, way off the map of reason.

jocona

VT is something like 50%-60% US anyways since the US markets are so much larger than everyone else. But if, say, the EU kills it over the next decade and surpasses the US, than it would flip. That’s the point of indexes, you buy all the winners (and losers) and just follow the international markets. International markets are basically just the sum total of all human productivity and ingenuity, so if you think that people will continue to innovate (invent new stuff) or be more productive or grow in population, then you’d expect the markets to grow.

jaapi

All of America benefits and the petro dollar... As awful as it is, your life as an American will be better because of this (if you are are American or UK, and if EU indifferent) Ie lot of US companies outside of of energy will greatly benefit

Big-Dudu-77

Wtf is the EU going to do? Only China can really do anything.

Stuvi2k

You are right. China will take Taiwan and this has been discussed with Trump. You get venezuela we get Taiwan. EU loses. 

socialdirection

I live long term in the US but am from Europe. So I've always been a little bit skeptical too of the US - however, I've done the research and the EU/Europe just doesn't innovate or create new industries like the US does. Yes their currency is '' stronger '' but the US really has way more cards to play with in the short and long term. Don't bet against the US, honestly. It moves way faster than anything in Europe. Europe is slow and steady, on purpose. Yes they have worker protections, but they also have outdated/formal work environments with low as fuck salaries.

Happy_Discussion_536

Facts are facts. China, Russia and Iran was building a presence there, growing influence. Western assets were being seized and being pushed out. They're the largest reserve in the world. With the game Maduro was playing it was FAFO and inevitable. Entire free world supports us behind cameras. Venezuelan 2025 Nobel peace prize winner Machado has been begging Trump to remove Maduro. Will our companies get the best deals and first dibs? Obviously but EU, Canada, UK, Japan everyone benefits from this.

SolidImpression7062

Meanwhile the UK “damn pretty impressed” the EU “cool just try not to let it get out of hand” Russia Cuba and WSB “NoOOOOoooo”

Amazing_Bat_1498

Well i think they kind of have it now. USA is more polarized than ever before. If USA is going to war with china over Taiwan at their own backyard, the people across both politcal isles would really have to stand together in a war that would undoubtly require a massive sacrifice from the american people. I cant see how Trump wil be able to unite the people for such a war given his history. Also the relationship between europe and USA has never been worse than it is today after tariffs, how Russia-Ukraine war has been handled and how USA is openly supporting the dissolution of the EU. The biggest strength USA had before Trump is that USA could count on europe having their back, but considering the last couple of months i dont think thats the case anymore. As a european it is kind of crazy how the US has gone from being viewed as an indispensible aly to a potentially adversary. So i think this this is quite an opertune time for china to attack.

ReasonableBrother448

What are the incentives for Japan to get heavily involved in the first phases of blockade? Problem with those sticks and carrots are, that nobody in the west wants to use the stick as it carries some heavy economic long lasting fallout. You have seen it with the tariff bullshit, China played the USA in the corner within weeks and EU did not even start to entertain the idea of leaving the corner in the first place. It is classical beginnings of war. Other party is fully willing and capable of starting it. Absent of heavy handed symmetry it will be the cause of actual war. Virtually all of the wars start this way, ability and willpower.

CoughRock

you completely neglect eu or china might start sanction us official or nation in retaliation for the illegal war/kidnapping charge. Obviously taco will get mad and retaliate any sanction/criticism with more 100% tariff threat to eu/china/any nation that dare to question him. cycle of counter sanction will wreck trade and sent index straight down. EU might fold like wet noodle, but china does have critical mineral strangle hold. So they do have trade leverage to force action. And taco will certainly retaliate. It might take a crash before he fold.

Septon-Meribald

r/bogleheads, there you go. Do not go to a stock picking subreddit for investment advice and make sure to check european tax laws etc. Generally for us EU folks, Broad, passive global index funds are your base, and they include alot of US stocks. Just make sure to DCA it in over 24 months and keep a sizeable cash position/pay off expensive debts first. Also look into stuff like your housing situation and educational needs before you put it all on some meme stock. You don't wanna be that intel guy.

PinPsychological82

I don’t know too much about EU stocks, and I don’t really cover many stocks outside gaming / social media. Wouldn’t be able to help you there

PinPsychological82

Can’t recall too many good gaming companies in EU. Ubisoft and Embracer are terribly run. Ubisoft has nepotism and family issues, while Embracer has really struggled as an acquisitive company without much rationale. CDPR (makers of Witcher and Cyberpunk games) is a potential play. They remind me of TTWO but on a smaller scale and a bit less well developed. Witcher 4 is coming out in 2027 I believe. If you are looking for a play like that, it could be interesting

CoolWerewolf

Trump got mentally ill libtards to side with a foreigner dictator who killed tens of thousands of people with drugs and wasn’t recognized by the EU as the legitimate president. Turns out libtards only hate fake dictators like Donald Trump and not real dictators.

Brand0n1

That this will have reprocissions as it set a precedent for other leaders. I hope I’m wrong but now China can move into Taiwan and so the same. I strongly believe that Putin has been egging him on to dk something so to lower the bar. Kind of how in the Dark Knight the joker put the bombs on two boats and triggers on each side to prove a point. The bar has been lowered and we’ll see results from that. China gets their crude oil from Venezuela, will the new government be pro UsA and stop? This will have impact the exports of Chinese rare earths to UsA and drive cost further up. Political ties between EU and UsA are now probaly at an all time low strengthening Russia in Ukraine. So surface level you see a dictator being removed whereas beneath that it will cause a ripple effect geopolitically that further ruins it for everyone else. A prime example of Trump playing checkers where the rest are playing 3d chess.

JunkSquadPlant

*yawn*, i saw that episode on the BBC too. Did you catch the one where the EU in response opens their hands wider, shakes their cup harder, and wags their finger more intensely while doing double-fuck nothing about anything? You can't miss it, they've re-run it nearly every day for the last sixty years. it's a bit preachy, impractical, and stale for most people's tastes -- but it sounds like it would be more your speed. It's the one where it's just a person pissing on the map of Europe while screaming SHUT UP THIS IS A GOOD THING.

PreWiBa

Sure budy. Your exit out of the EU sure proofed the English to be a mastermind in 4d chess.

Impossible_Way7017

EU didn’t seem to suffer and global consequences of bombing Libya… although it did turn out to shoot them in the foot as their migrant crises accelerated by the militias which took over in the power vacuum, will be interesting to see how this vacuum gets filled.

PreWiBa

I don't know Trying to abolish the EU, having a special envoy for Greenland, and threatening Canada to make it a 51th state don't seem like the US doesn't regard these things like "messes".

PreWiBa

Is it? I read the recently published strategy of the US towards the EU, did you?

omegaphallic

 They are just punching down at those weaker then them, because their too chicken shit to go after us (Canada) or Greenland (part of Denmark so under EU protection).

Ok-Analysis4121

Dude the US admitted, in leaked documents, that China would obliterate us lol. China isn't scared of the US, or Japan, and the EU has no backbone at all. China holds the world's cards right now. No one wants to beef with China

Commercial_Deer_7114

These political takes are so boring, there is 0 substance to this because it is impossible for Europe to pivot. Europe is dependant on the US for everything that makes Europe semi-developed. The entire internet is built on US-tech. It is powered by mostly fossil fuels, which the EU gets from Russia. Germany has the same GDP level as it did like 6-7 years ago, utter stagnation. Greece just got back to the levels of GDP it had 20 years ago and is completely owned by China now.

Ldghead

...until someone plays the "made you flinch" game with the EU, and they realize that they need the US to act as the big kid on the block again.

ShittyUsernane1222

🥭 is going to apply Venezuela playbook to the neighboring countries of the US and EU. I have no doubt in that.

ShittyUsernane1222

reposting an old comment. 🥭 is gonna make an example of Venezuela to threaten Canada,EU, China etc. etc. also 🥭 somehow plans to deport 1/3 of the US. Back of the hand logistics and manpower arithmetic means the US is cooked, fried in case of ww3. short term bullish on defense stocks.

throwa91

Won't happen - they would be going against US, SE asia partners, EU and its incredibly difficult operation. They would exhaust their resources and military..XI is far too strategic

throwa91

Won't happen, US, Japan, AU, Singapore, EU et al will defend Taiwan.. also its an amphibious operation - very hard to execute and way too risky for XI

adheretohospitality

Well, it's mandatory now they lower fee's, and there's been a few other bills passed not in their favor. Plus EU is looking for alternatives and even the US might pass a bill that makes it mandatory to offer an alternative to MasterCard/Visa. (CCCA) What else you got?

narullow

It will not. Countries like Russia/China do not ask about legitimacy of territorial conquest. Theey never did and they never will. They ask themselves whether someone else will do something about it. Russia knew EU would not put boots on the ground and decided that US would probably not do it either after the withdrawals from previous wars and political cllima in US over something like Ukraine. However this attack shows that US is still very much prepared to go into war over something they think is in their interests which Taiwan 100% is. This helps Taiwan's case, not chinese.

CarRamRob

EU/NATO? Those aren’t players in what happens to Taiwan. It’s the US and the US alone whose interests are there. So the EU shrugs, or embargo’s the US…neither has any impact on how the USA will protect Taiwan. Time to get off Reddit for me, this nonsense is too much.

BadPunners

They'll see that EU/NATO does about it. And can decide if the response to Chinese actions would be similar And gives them leverage for "peaceful" reintegration I also find it fascinating that you think Venezuela was a distraction for USA previously? Venezuela was only a distraction from Trump-Epstein files and a claimed "solution to the gas prices", just as they claimed "illegal immigration crackdown" is a solution to inflation and housing.

InjuryEmbarrassed532

Why don’t we do the same with the EU leaders? Probably Euros would be better off anyway and not fade into open air museum irrelevance.

PResidentFlExpert

There are EU member states that don’t use the Euro exclusively. The European oil trade is conducted in dollars. Do they not teach about the Marshall Plan anymore? Listen nephew, Europe has been a US protectorate for 80 years now.

StaticSystemShock

Good. Tesla is so overinflated and overvalued it's wild, not to mention their interior design, particularly dashboard is just horrendous and they've not really innovated with anything for years, other than just promising things and then never delivering them. Also F Elon Musk. What an absolute douchebag. China has come a long way from "Made in China means cheap and crappy" to some of incredible products that rival the best from the rest of the world. Of all Chinese car brands BYD seems to be the most highlighted. I'm still driving petrol car, but when time will be to switch to EV I'll be looking at BYD, Xiaomi and Hyundai. Assuming Xiaomi will make anything smaller and cheaper than their flagship S7 and will be present in EU... Hyundai on the other hand has been sort of a quiet leader in EVs. They've been making Ioniq EV for ages and while it wasn't making any headlines, it was apparently pretty nice EV. However that entirely changed with introduction of Ioniq 5 which has been highly praised as one of the best EVs out there in pretty much all aspects, range, the way it drives, the way it looks, how practical it is and how reliable Hyundai is in general. Inster seems to be quite popular too though I'm waiting for Ioniq 3 and Ioniq 2 eventually rolling out as 5 is just too expensive for my needs and Inster looks too funky for my liking. I'd prefer i20 or i30 format of EV car with current more conservative but modern Ioniq styling. But yeah, BYD is absolutely on my radar and apparently they are coming in my country this year. So, we'll see.

NotMe357

Greenland is too big of a problem. Greenland got NATO and EU behind their back and this year is midterm electio n so I don't think TACO will do anything stupid like that but differently will try to do it after the midterm.

Horcsogg

Why Muricans hatin on Venezuela? Why attack them? Will EU sanction Murica just like they did Ruzzia?

SpicyElixer

Who upvoted this? Europe is way denser. EU: 110-112 people/km² US 33-38 people/km² Maybe stop calling people stupid and dumb right before you fuck up the next “fact.”

SpicyElixer

The European Union (EU) has a significantly higher population density than the United States (US), averaging around 110-112 people per square kilometer (km²) compared to the US's roughly 33-38 people/km²

Betaateb

You are literally comparing the per square kilometer in EU to the per square mile in the US lmao. Do them both in sqkm, 37 in the US to 109 in the EU.

Yabuduzhdat

TSLA will go down from now, EU, US is going back to ICE, only GYNA loves electric cars (as they should be because they can't compete in ICE market) . and Elon, he loves Space more than anything else, he will leave TSLA just like he did with PYPL.

Formal-Apartment855

I haven't actually used a BYD so I don't know what languages are installed, but I'm sure they support a lot of languages and date formats and the likes, as I see these cars all over the EU these days. (Navigation on the other hand sounds like it could be a headache.)

TheShark24

MasterCard has greater EU exposure than Visa. With EU trying to get away from the two, something to consider. Little impact in the short term IMO though

GreenPlasticChair

?? The US has done the same. Subsidies for EV manufacturers all the way to purchasers. Dollar has devalued over the last year. Pressured others (eg EU) to adopt their economic hawkishness on China. The difference is China subsidised the industry as a whole and helped the winners scale. The US subsidised a billionaire with the right political access to create a monopoly which in turn killed any prospect of a wider domestic industry forming.

Sensitive-Radish-292

You said it's restricted to US/EU, yet you see India and Taiwan there as well. What you described doesn't make the data magically independent, so saying it corrects for the non-independence is bullshit. You're implying here that it is something fullproof when in fact it's absolutely not... it introduces a lot of risks and loss of statistical power and that's one of the main reasons why bigger trials need to follow to account for this. It's very easy to mismanage this data and it has happened countless of times in Medical research. But sure, argue with someone who spent his lifetime studying the subject. My puts are expiring in FEB and I bought a few cheaper ones with 2 week expiry.. you understand that do you? And I plan to double down as they were bought today and I didn't know if it might pump a little more. But you do you, **(tin foil hat on)** I seriously even doubt you have a position in, I wouldn't be surprised if you're part of the PR team **(tin foil hat off)**

Ih8chiggas

You literally linked the same thing as I did and it shows US EU and Taiwan, not China I love how you're just pulling a superficial rank on me about how supposedly better you are at running stats, the best thing that redditors do. Also, regarding statistics: You are confusing simple random sampling with Stratified Randomization. The FDA mandates the latter for small trials to prevent imbalance, and the data is analyzed using a stratified log-rank test, which corrects for the non independence. Nobody is misrepresenting anything and they are simply presenting a bullish view on the limited data that we have, but its still a far fetch from the made up shit you're spewing. Funny how you're underwater now while I'm almost up 120%, but you do you. Does being this aggresive online to a bunch of strangers net you any goodwill?

Ih8chiggas

Its painfully obvious you have a severe lack of understanding on how drug trial works and whatever drug you took certainly doesn't help. Just spend 10 seconds googling how a drug trial works and it will tell you that BAT will be limited, in this case BAT actually gets something unlike a sugar dose of placedo but that does not include the V+A combo like I said which is literally stated in the government files... The patients and doctors are bound to a legal contract knowing they can not receive anything other than whats stated or else they are out of the trial. Secondly, the relatively small sampling size sure isn't the big data stats analysis on world reports, but a computer is actually out there to record their key risk factors (age, duration of first remission, cytogenetics) before assigns them to a group to ensure those specific risks are balanced. Its definitely not perfect but this stratified randomization in a group of ~140 patients makes it statistically highly unlikely to have a massive skew that ruins the data based on "luck" alone. Google "stratified randomization in drug trials" will save the both of us time. On my third point, you are literally backtracking. If you admit WT1 is present in 90% of AML patients, then your original math claiming the drug only targets a tiny '1%' fraction is wrong. We aren't pricing this as a cure for everything (like Keytruda), we are pricing it as a standard of care for AML. That alone justifies a valuation higher than the current market cap. Also, REGAL is mainly based on US and EU and I believe the China patients are excluded from the trial since March 2024, so up your research game lmao.

Tupcek

funny, few days ago I was downvoted to hell because I told EU ICE ban shouldn’t be softened as to push EU car makers to invest more into EVs instead of being stuck in the past, because China is pushing ahead and we don’t invest enough. Guess I am in superposition of being wrong for fearmongering of Chinese EVs and being wrong because I can’t see how Chinese cars are taking ground in EU, both at the same time

Sensitive-Radish-292

You didn't read my post and it's painfully obvious. \- Never said WT1 is rare in AML, it's rare among other cancers. \- Never said GPS has failed to beat BAT, read the text again. Slowly, you'll find out that I'm talking about the fact that the study isn't necessarily prolonged because of GPS outliving BAT, it can be the other way around or without nay change. \- Your commentary about the sampling methods are laughable, anyone who studied statistics know that this doesn't guarantee a perfect split, especially at such low sampling size (<1000) \- Your other comments are even more laughable, **are you seriously suggesting that when a human being is promised either experimental treatment or the best treatment possible**... he will **not** receive the actual best treatment? How fucked in your head are you? **REGAL isn't China only, it's EU/US as well and in these countries ethics exist.**

antaran

> The USA has about a 100% tariff on Chinese cars because it’s undermine the domestic corps. Doesn’t sound like a free market to me and more like crony capitalism EU does this too. It's because China subsidies their EV car makers with an insane amount of money. It's not just direct payments, but mostly indirect support throughout tax rebates, zero-interest loans and most importantly support for manufacturers along the supply line, which give car manufacturers very cheap access to parts and materials. They do this to undercut and ultimately destroy western car industry. Yes, Western countries subsidize their car industry too, but not to the degree China does.

Carlin47

Agreed. And honestly america is far closer to legalizing weed nationwide than Europe. European countries are hindered by EU law - they literally CANNOT legalize sales because its prohibited by EU law. I predict it will take a long time for that to change. Canada is simply ahead of the curve not just by a longshot, but by a lightyear

kaese_meister

EU has laws allowing "Cross Border Trade". There is an entire industry set up that buys products in lower priced countries and exports to higher priced countries. So prices quickly reach parity across EU. Many counties in EU also set prices through "price referencing". Ie Czechias prices are always the average of the lowest 3 prices in Europe. They chose that rule and implement it, no negotiation. They could have chosen "lowest price in Europe" as some other EU countries have. Not sure why they didn't.  So if a country isn't able to afford a drug, its probably because theyre not willing to pay the lowest price in Europe rather than because theyre only being offered higher prices due to their size. Source: I'm a health economist and previously worked for Dept Health in UK negotiating with Pharma.

Tupcek

yeah, but Chinese cars sells poorly in EU nor USA, which are two largest markets beside China