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dtta8

No way, China wants the Strait of Hormuz open, just like the EU, India, and Africa. Really, only the US and Russia benefit. Which is probably the point. That's why they didn't go after just the military and nuclear assets like all the other times, but against the entire civilian leadership too. They wanted to push Iran into total war, a win or die scenario, to inflict maximum chaos on everything in the region.

Father_of_Lies666

Stop gambling and buy ANNA. Read the world, EU energy independence is needed yesterday.

Disco_Darth_Vader

I find your lack of gas… disturbing. Europe faces a new energy crunch as the Iran conflict sends nat-gas prices soaring and Russia hints it could halt supply to EU markets. The galaxy needs new fuel sources. The Force may be strong with $ANNA. ⚡️ #EnergyCrisis #NatGas

AnonymousLoner1

> Ukraine is under pressure to let the EU inspect a damaged pipeline carrying Russian oil to Hungary and Slovakia, as the two pro-Kremlin countries accuse Kyiv of overstating the impact of an attack by Moscow — despite what Ukrainian officials say is evidence of extensive destruction. > ... > Now some pro-Ukraine EU governments and the European Commission are also asking Kyiv to allow a visit to prove that it is trying to restore oil flows, according to five EU diplomats and officials.

killerdrgn

"EU" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here when they mean just Hungary and Slovakia.

AnonymousLoner1

With oil prices at this level, Russia is pretty much ecstatic, while the EU...is being the EU again... > EU urges Ukraine to allow access to pipeline carrying Russian oil https://www.ft.com/content/8f5f18fb-311d-4df0-805c-063b292506b3

Prudent-Leading-8835

I know but something is just off… Cause EU stocks dumps so hard… and they even neutral right Now 😂😂

I_Own_A_Fedora_AMA

I like lumber as an unloved commodity. Might fuck around and make a DD post later. -Like all commodities, benefits from inflation and deficit spending -massive demand upside from a potential Green New Deal 2 not reflected in producer forecasts -similar profit opportunities from selling carbon credits to EU/wherever -rising health consciousness will continue to lead consumers away from plastic products towards wood pulp products -benefits from more cardboard box demand as small retailers go digital and ship to consumers -Mass timber is gorgeous, rising in popularity, and competes with steel and concrete as a commercial building material. Costs are comparable -steel and concrete costs will rise as energy costs do, both need really hot furnaces to make, wood doesn’t Long RYN

ImpressiveAmount4684

At least NATO seems to keep a firm stance. The UK is already sucking up by sending jets. Stay out of the EU, Brexit.

ImpressiveAmount4684

EU, spineless cucks. Debating whether to again assist the US in Iraq 2.0 while forgetting 🥭 was happy to sacrifice them to Putin not too long ago. At this point I hope the West collapses lmao.

SonOfLuigi

I love Reddit, man. 1 bull day off all time highs has people saying shit like “it’ll be an EU/Asia century” 🤣

moorhound

They're already #4 on barrels per day, and as soon as Putin gives up with this Ukraine shit Russias oil opens up to the EU markets as well. Sky-high oil prices as the ME blows itself up gives RU-UKR peace a very enticing economic incentive.

moorhound

This is the kind of kiddie pool shallow brain activity I'm talking about. 2/3 of EU refineries have recently been upgrading to proves Canadian heavy crude. Give it 5 years and they're cutting those NA pipelines and sending that shit to the motherland

Aggravating_Sir_4709

Are you a regard? Asia and EU have 0 oil. They're more screwed than anyone else.

moorhound

Kneecapping our AI chip game by requiring what I'm sure will be 🥭-distributed permits to buy based off whims The weekend war expands to the entire Middle East Oil tanker unions straight up refusing to cross the Hormuz Strait because they know the ~10 US ships in the area can't defend them for ~1000 miles of Iranian coastline I wish the single-braincell dipshits that voted for this shit could comprehend the magnitude of damage being done to the US's future economic prospects. Pax Americana is *fucked*, it's gonna be an Asia/EU century

Jerikolol

oil shock -> inflation -> no rate cuts (or even rate hikes for EU) -> gold needs to go lower to account for higher for longer yield from other assets (bonds etc)

Putrid-City-8951

This could be the hold of this conflict. Fully insulated from risk but beneficiary of rising prices and political efforts to achieve more energy security in Italy/EU. Italy has a lot of exposure on LNG and would do well to expedite the second field. Crazy the trading float is only 2.7m shares!

MuricanWisecrack

You are regarded, highly. how old are you? can you even point out Iran on a map? Look. as a europoor im listening to Bibi Netanjahu - exactly in the Style of Elon musk - since AT LEAST 2007 - EVERY FUCKIN YEAR tell "next year Iran has a nuclear bomb - and they gonna use it". Its the mother of all warmongering. There was a perfectly fine Deal with EU and Obama. Guess who fuckin obliterated that deal? Right! The Mango. \------ But you get anyways what you voted for. no need to be poisonous. everything has a price and i cannot possible think how anything Mango does benefits anybody. So: Enjoy, regard.

Alert-Ad5477

Listen, you seem to be very immersed into this so I am curious.. 1) when you point to the us gas deficit vs 5 year average, is it not only 0.3% below the average? A bit miss leading to calling a deficit 2) Europe’s is still below the 2024/25 glut but it is the end of a cold winter but didn’t they just update their import terminals, meaning they can refill much faster if they choose? The entire market is expecting a wave of production in 2026/2027, and resulting glut. Price forecasts for EU/Asia. How do you see this as bullish?

North_Experience7473

Spain is part of the EU so good luck with that.

abzz123

The OP doesn’t explain it properly, but it is not easy to invest for US citizens who do not live in US, at least that is true about EU.  EU has regulations that do not allow its residents to invest into anything not registered with EU, no EU brokerage will open an account for a US citizen, any investment not registered with SEC is marked to market yearly an unrealized gains are taxed. The combination of these things make it very difficult for expats to invest in anything.  Individual stocks can still be bought, which seems to be what OP is trying to do. 

Toothlesskinch

US repeatedly signaling less support for NATO. EU is all like OK. Will need to dump a trillion dollars across the next decade re-arming themselves.US all shocked when "allies" don't want to join insanely expensive, ultimately fruitless war in Iran. You cant make this shit up.

markpreston54

Basically funds (usually domisciled in ireland for equity, or Luxemburg for others) complied with EU regulations. VUSD for example should be ucits version of sp500 index fund

Difficult-Level7038

Yeah my thoughts exactly. I guess up 30 percent YTD, then a war in the middle east erupts and it goes DOWN? I have HAL calls I bought last month and Sunday night I thought I was gonna wake up rich. They went up %200 Monday, and did I sell? No way. Why would I, war just started right? My 3/20 exp are worth .10 cents now. Oh well I've got some 4/17 VG calls that should pan out, cause you know they're the only exporter to EU now. But I'm sure that'll go fuk too 

Fair-Bookkeeper-1833

what do you think of my portfolio, non US non EU based. 55% SPYL.L 15% EIMI.L 10% IGLN.L 10% [IXUA.DE](http://IXUA.DE) 10% USD Cash I ***might*** need to liquidate 30% (so selling that 10% IXUA and maybe 10% from SPYL or some of gold, depends on how things go) of it in 6 weeks but otherwise I'm holding for longer term.

Svenray

EU is so corrupt I first assumed it was from taxes and not THE WAR.

astrawberryandakiwi

EU would get flatlined within months

obidamnkenobi

it's not the US government that cares if you have a "fake" US address, just the broker. Because if your real address is in the EU they are supposed to comply with (stupid) EU regulations.

SeantxuKF

Not sure if you can buy it if non-EU, but dont do MAGS when you have MAG7. Go big or go home.

B_Mugs

I cant confidently say I have any answers, but in my case it was technically possible to find a USA fund that also gave all supporting documentation needed to fulfill the EU requirements. The problem is that adds cost and risk to the fund, and I don't think theres that many options due to not enough people meeting those requirements. If you maintain a US address, you can keep your usa broker happy and buy funds. People have also said to use a family members address/ lie about home address, and keep your usa funds party going. Personally I don't think it would take much for the government to put that together and you're potentially looking at alot of problems

B_Mugs

I am a US citizen currently living in EU, and I am pretty sure i cant buy US based funds due to EU regulations, so it depends on where he's living.

Brokenandburnt

Yes, the US is infact a founding member of WTO, that however doesn't mean that it has agreed to follow the rules.  The WTO is currently neutered due to an Obama era policy. The US has consistently, beginning with Obama and continued through Trump1 and Biden.\ The WTO judges has terms, when the term is up, candidates are selected for consideration. The Policy entails persistent veto's against all candidates, a practice that has now left WTO without a court. No court, no arbitration, no verdicts. The US doesn't accept any outside influence intruding on their "sovereignty". That attitude has only grown worse under Trump. The current administration has been teetering on demanding that EU stops collecting VAT from US corporations doing business with the bloc. The same goes for demanding that corporations follows the same laws and regulations as everyone else in EU.\ That he hates and before relations begin to sour we let some things slide. I ask again. Who will enforce a claim against Trump, or a Trump corporation/partner? Currently the administration is bound to repay some $175B in tariffs revenue. It's not hard, all information needed is already in Customs data banks. There are 900 claims from **US** businesses in the courts right now, trying to get their refund. With both Nutlick and Hasset vociferously adding their support for the inane tariff strategy, it will only be harder to get any refunds. If Trump doesn't respect the authority of his own courts when it comes to domestic companies, why the ever loving _fuck_ do you think he will respect foreign ones?

CanIRumInYourMouth

Have you been to Europe? You’ll see how backwards America is particularly with payments. EU has had faster payments service for years, chip and pin etc. last time I was in US I presented my card at a well known nightclub in Vegas and the girl behind the bar pulled out a mag strip reader and asked for a copy of my Id 😂😂😂😂

optimal_909

Oh yeah and India reselling Russian oil with a markup to Europe. What a waste of money, and just imagine the fully unnecessary emissions to ship oil halfway through the world to emissions conscious Europe with it's Euro7 emission standards that slowly kill EU carmakers. This is late stage USSR-like stupidity.

Silent_Inspector933

That's a strange way to spell EU EU EU

WetLogPassage

3rd world likes to spell all acronyms backwards. EU is UE and AI is IA etc. Or should I say cte.

FabulousLanguage6216

We might be good. EU pump is not fading. Buying also some calls for Kospi

throwawayainteasy

You're not wrong, but on the flip side Iran, Venezuala, and Syria before that are also doing a good job of showing countries that Russia won't actually protect them, either. Entering a new era of uncertainty where security agreements seemingly aren't worth squat. I'm buying EU defense holdings as a result (and defense funds denominated in pounds and euros to take advantage of the dollar shitting the bed).

Full_Pear449

EU Markets are alot closer

LickMyTicker

Are you suggesting that means the EU plays a larger federal role over the member states than the US federal government? It is amazing how ignorant everyone here is. This isn't a pissing match about whose nation is better. It's a simple fucking fact that the US federal government plays a much larger role in governance than the EU does. It's a pretty basic fact. Nothing to get your panties in a twist about.

dolmates

We dont have AI in EU yet

echoenchanter

Good breakdown. The point about HEICO and TransDigm is interesting because they benefit from any aircraft maintenance and upgrade cycle regardless of which prime wins the contract. Less binary risk, like you said. On the EU side, IDEF has been getting more attention but the liquidity issue is real. Wondering if that improves as more European defense-focused products launch this year.

ihatebamboo

Can’t see the fat nonce following through, EU won’t let it happen without serious retaliation. Buy the dip

WolfetoneRebel

Who told you globalization is reversing? The US is machining it harder to sell products there. US companies can so sell s normal around the world. Also, the rest of the world is increasing trade - see EU/India deal, see EU/Mercosur deal, see Chinese exports at all time highs as they’ve just find new markets to replace the US…

BalerionSanders

Focusing on how much trade exactly we have with Spain is the wrong point. The problem that we are going to have is how to trade with literally anyone and everyone else now that we have once again proven that we might, at any moment, rescind our agreements on a whim. But in the event, we have a trade surplus with them, they’re in the EU so cutting them off has ramifications for all EU trading relationships and metrics, so this was already pretty stupid to do from the hip (gelatinous bulge?). So I’m once again asking, enthusiasts of the free market, is this your king?

RedditAwesome2

In many european countries if you trade only on regulated EU market you are exempt of paying /any/ tax on etf withdraws. Dividents are mostly taxed. Worth for op to check how it works where he lives. For me, I owe 0% tax when everything is done through a bank and european investment companies like amundi etc. There’s an entry fee but you can get that to 0% if you just wait for your bank to do a “promotion” and invest like 200k at once. Source: I’ve already withdrawn profits and some of my investments, and talked both to bank employees and an accountant and both confirmed thay I owe 0% tax on that money and don’t need to file anything at all. On the contrary for dividents you need to file and also pay 10% divident fee in here. I live in Bulgaria / EU

Javimoran

So you are telling us that Morocco will threaten a country with a larger population, 10x the GDP, member of the EU and with the 10th largest navy in the world. And Spain should be concerned that the US does not protect them in that hypothetical scenario?

Public-Material8448

For 40+ years... it was bueno. Russians never fcked up their moneyprinter oil and gas deals. They needed the money desperately. Niw they have china and india and EU has x5-x6 priced LNG. We are cooked.

elektracodes

n Greece, the main right-wing party has governed for about **15 of the last 25 years (2000–2025)** and has won every election since 2019. For years they blamed the previous left-wing government for every problem in the country. Since last year the tone has mostly shifted to saying that nothing is really wrong and that this is the best government Greece has ever had. Meanwhile the EU has even started fining Greece over corruption issues, because the local justice system doesn't do anything about it. So if we follow that pattern, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump keeps blaming Democrats for everything for the rest of his life.

Overall-Fold-9720

>Trump threatens to halt trade with Spain over military base access 1 year of tariffs war, and hommie still don't get the EU trade agreement

Cryptonomancer

Isn't it an EU import, anyway?

Matt2_ASC

This is where I'm at with Europe. They will need to invest in military and energy. If people end up trusting debt offerings in Europe over the US, we'll see a lot of growth in the EU.

MaybeOnToilet

Waiting for silver to dip some more. Not sure what stocks are good. This administration just banned trade with an EU member.  Should be interesting yo-yo, perhaps follow purchase of Congress members and take the guess work out of it.

Gloobloomoo

I understand this is related to the safety of the US markets in turmoil, specifically the strength of US debt and the USD. So if worldwide markets tank, capital flows to safely, the US. This is all pre-Trump. Re international assent though, OP what are your thoughts ? I broadly agree with the thesis, since emerging markets and EU are already seeing better growth than the US since Trump. Also, today’s crash is atleast somewhat related to the spikes in oil prices, besides fear/panic selling.

meikyo_shisui

I don't disagree this is a factor, but they're already significantly backlogged from US/EU orders so have no need to sell to China to max out capacity - the market doesn't seem to get this.

Acolyte_of_Swole

> So yes I think the US and Israel just started WW3 I agreed with everything up to this. WW3, to me, has always meant a war between two roughly equal nuclear powers. Like the US and Russia, the EU and China, or whoever else. As far as we know, Iran does not have nuclear weapons, only nuclear power. They had an agreement not to develop nuclear weapons and if they had been developing them in secret, I think they would have used them on Israel the moment Khomenei died. Thus I conclude they probably don't have anything that can be weaponized. In a conventional war, nuclear powers have a ridiculous advantage over non-nuclear powers. Unless Iran can involve a nuclear-armed country in the fight, I don't see WW3. It will be another huge quagmire like Afghanistan, that lasts 20 years and sees no positive results. I hope I'm proven wrong on that last part.

glyptometa

He's never understood NATO or the European Union, and wasn't paying attention when USA and coalition partners invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. He's also not a planner. He's more of a rogue actor. There's nothing unusual about this because he's the opposite of a person you would want leading foreign affairs or trade. Someone will explain things like NATO, coalitions, the EU, and the like to him. Probably by way of a quick video production narrated by models in swimwear. No one can predict what he'll do after that.

DMT1703

So far only the countries that is safe from the crash are either mostly oil exporters that isn't from the Middle east or Isolationists/Continents operation only or the Warring Jewish country whose name everyone should have known by now. Some examples are Estonia and Latvia which gain their GDP due to how solely they operating on EU only and similar case are Jamaica whose clients are mostly Americans and Canadians.

corenellius

LNG the stock. I think the permitting and construction delays keep pushing new capacity out further than bears assume. Argentina is the supply response I'm least certain about on a 3-5 year view. EU nuclear is a 10 year story at minimum, doesn't threaten the near-term thesis. I've actually been building a tool that tracks this kind of thing, break triggers on new capacity timelines, supply response signals, [getvela.co](https://getvela.co?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=comment&utm_campaign=lng-thread) if curious.

Antilokhos

LNG the stock or LNG the asset? I've got 600 shares of NEXT because I believe they can execute like LNG the stock has done. I suppose that makes me a long by default since they don't expect revenue until next year. Overall, gas should be good in the medium term. I'd be cautious about a glut hitting the market as people rush to bring export terminals online. And that's before Argentina's massive reserves start to see production. Other question is does the EU get sick of ping ponging between Russian pipelines and US tankers and make a concerted effort back into nuclear? I can't imagine any foreign government is going to give the US the benefit of the doubt in terms of being a good partner right now.

Expert-Length871

You're nothing more than a cheap troll. It's obvious. Any European (from the EU and the British by extension) knows how things work. So get on with whatever you have to do in your poor little hole, Sito.

arctics_seagull

EU is going to have hard time dealing with this..

Expert-Length871

I know. Unfortunately, I know, like everyone else. But we're also talking about the World Trade Organisation and the EU. The consequences of not doing things properly are a little more far-reaching. I know he doesn't give a damn. The rest of the world does. That's what I mean. And while we're on the subject, remember why TACO.

justwalk1234

Embargo the entire EU would be a bold move..

OkVariety8064

As it has already been explained to you, EU trade is a single system. You don't get to pick and choose. You do get to fuck around and find out however, as Trump already found with his tariff deal getting ripped up because he couldn't keep his mouth shut. And "communist Spain", really? You couldn't find any other way to demonstrate to everyone what a mouth-breathing moron you are? Spain is not communist, no EU country is communist. Words actually have meanings, except in America, where they mean whatever Dear Leader thinks they mean at any given moment. Or perhaps you think that anything to the left of American klepto-oligarchism is communist? Maybe that's something you could ponder, while you enjoy your TV dinner of Freedom Fries, sitting down for your next dose of Newsmax Patriot Facts.

Accidental-Genius

We don’t trade with Spain. We trade with the EU. Fuck MAGA is so fucking dumb.

silinio45

Well, probably they got fed up of being imposed unfair tariffs based on lies threatening the land of another EU member territory and insulted at every chance. Who knew that treating like shit your allies will have a price.

Enough_Summer7073

They are actually spanish bases, but Spain lets the US operate there, and as a result most traffic in the bases is US since the Spanish military doesnt do much. The important thing is the Spain-US agreement gives Spain the last word regarding the use of the bases in all cases except NATO defensive operations. This is not a NATO defensive operation, this is a war that US and Israel decided to start with iran. There is 0 obligation from NATO members to allow the US to use their bases to stage attacks on its enemies. Also since Spain announced this Belgium and norway seem to be taking the same position. So Trump is either going to go after the whole EU or nothing

SportInternational15

Not legal, Don. All part of the EU. All for one.

ET-4

Spain is a member of the EU. Trade talks would have to be done with the EU, not Spain. But sure, let the senile geriatric old man-child have his tantrum.

gamjatang111

i think countries might learn to say no. Look at the rise of right wing populism in EU

Creeper15877

This can happen overnight by just using any existing company in another EU country. The country of origin is also not allowed to stop the embargo evasions in this case because they're bound by a free trade agreement. That's why this is impossible.

Rude_Assistance_4386

Gonna die laughing if Asia and EU buys this up after shidding and farding it down all last night

jayjay234

So... we are cutting off trade with EU entirely?

Expert-Length871

Regarding the bases. Of course they can use them. Within the terms of the treaty. And the Spanish Government is legally empowered to order that they not be used for a specific purpose. In this case, the attack on Iran. Period. There is no room for discussion. The bases are designated ‘for joint use.’ They are Spanish sovereign territory. And nothing else. Regarding the other nonsense, it has been explained to him many times what the EU is and how it works. He should abide by that and by current international law. If he does not... he should face the consequences. Yes, I know, he does not give a damn. Neither do Europeans care that he is a moron who tries to screw up the world. And here we are.

DorkyDorkington

EU ONLY SETS INBOUND TRADE COLLECTIVELY! Outboubd trades are country specific. It has absolutely zero relevance to tge matter of how you or someone else feels about any person or their motivation, but yes it can be done for fuck sake. This sub can sometimes be so amazingly uninformed about trade, stock, business matters that really wonder why it is called as it is. Seems more like an emotional outlet for outburst of political frustration.

TheMericanIdiot

They have no choice. It’s understandable but the EU, Gulf states and UAE countries had a choice to stand up to bullies now they too will suffer in the weight of this unmitigated disaster without a bottom.

Brent_the_Ent

Th EU collectively sets trade terms. Not just spain, he can’t do this without burning the trade deal with the EU

Colonist25

or he knows, but just chooses to ignore it. trying to strike deals directly means the EU gets fractured in the process.

The-unknown-poster

He’d have to cut off the entire EU.

DorkyDorkington

The EU has zero power to say what the US can do period. Also while it is true that the non-elected EU bureaucrats are trying the best they can to push federation development it is not there yet and is facing a lot of opposition. So much so that pushing any further will risk the whole thing collapsing.

jackgrafter

You're getting a lot of downvotes and intially I thought you were wrong but on doind some research it seems you're right. The EU is a single market internally, but external trade is still tracked by country of origin. The European Union negotiates trade policy as a bloc, but goods entering the United States still carry a specific origin label (made in France, Germany, etc.). The US can legally apply tariffs based on where a product is produced, even if it later circulates freely inside the EU. So the single market removes barriers inside the EU. It does not prevent other countries from targeting specific EU member states at the border.

DorkyDorkington

He may be bullying but any EU agreement is irrelevant. Also the EU is far from standing in solidarity. The non-elected EU central bureaucrat elite can try to cry and whine but that is all they can do when a third party like the US sets the rules for their trade. The EU could theoretically try to persuade all other EU states to do something to pressure the US but the truth is they won't and can't. They are not so united with this idea of communist Spain protecting tyrannic islamist regime. Also too many EU states are extremely dependent on US trade so they will do nothing.

theranchcorporation

Let me get this right. He campaigned on inflation and war = bad, immediately tariffed the entire world to jack up inflation higher, passed a tax cut for corporations and billionaires at expense of healthcare and food programs, illegally invaded Venezuela, threatened the EU and Greenland and Canada. Has now got us into a long war with Iran who controls the strait of Hormuz where 25% of the globe’s oil supply passes through, and where the Gulf state’s derive all their wealth from and are also using said wealth to invest and prop up the AI industry which accounts for 30% of the US stock market.

DorkyDorkington

LOL, No you dock weed, the US can sanction any specific country they want. Perhaps you can't grasp the concept of trading yourself. The EU only regulates only inbound trades and the trading within the EU, They have no real say over what a third country will do. They can try and cry like they often do but that is pretty much it. It also seems you don't follow what has already happened with the previous tariffs that were country specific. The word here is outbound trade but seems too hard for you to grasp.

jackgrafter

Here's a link to the Liberation day tariffs by country. [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypxnnyg7jo](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypxnnyg7jo) . You'll notice that all EU countries have the same rate.

TomasComedian

Spain is a part of EU. Within EU there is free trade and free transport of goods. EU has a trade agreement with USA. So how are they intending to block Spain without blocking the rest of EU? Or will he demand that all other EU countries block the transport of US goods from other EU members to Spain? Not even his Hungarian marionette Orban would probably be able to pull that off.

DorkyDorkington

That is very easy because it is an outbound trade, not inflowing into the EU. Unless you did not notice the previous tariffs had different rates for different countries.

blueskies8484

Yes. They will. Because he will back down quickly with all trade cut off between the EU and US. No one will be happy about it but the EU would be rendered meaningless overnight otherwise.

DustCareful8555

I get that.. but if he refuses Spanish products at the boarder. Will the EU then stop all trade with USA? Doubt Germany and France would be so happy about that.

Shady_Merchant1

No he can't they are covered by the EU trade deal

Sea-Tackle2868

I think you're right that there are some Spanish stocks that are really cheap rn, but I don't necessarily believe Banco Santander is one of them. P/E of 12 is still pretty high for a EU bank so even though there was a dip a lot of potential growth is still priced in.  Plus I don't think we can compare this dip to liberation day, IBEX35 is still up 33% ytd 

HoneyBadgerSlayer

"The EU is responsible for the trade policy of the member countries and negotiates agreements for them. Speaking as one voice, the EU carries more weight in international trade negotiations than each individual member would." Source: The EU, URL: [https://european-union.europa.eu/priorities-and-actions/actions-topic/trade\_en](https://european-union.europa.eu/priorities-and-actions/actions-topic/trade_en) You negotiate with the whole bloc, not the individual countries.

JoJoTheDogFace

can you point out the EU-US trade agreements that prohibits this?

goobervision

The EU'S Anti-coersion rules will have a field day. Kind of like Article 5 but for individual member states being singled out in trade / economic matters.

Foe117

Spain is part of the EU block, and this action will block all trade

MindMonitor

You miss the point about the *intent* of the EU agreement; it’s there to prevent any bullying of one country, just like Trump is trying to do here (bully a country into supporting his illegal war, mind you). The EU stands in solidarity, and that’s what matters.

Enough_Summer7073

I think since the EU has free trade within the union, if trump lets say puts 100% tariffs on spain, spanish company X can just set up a warehouse in France or portugal, or any other EU country, and just trade with the US from there. Then revenue from the company in the second country gets transferred to the spain HQ at no cost. I believe car manufacturers do this all the time to minimize the taxes they have to pay.

Dismal-Daikon-1091

There's more to it than that. Of all the EU countries, Spain is one of the weakest links vis a vis resisting China's influence.

hinedogmil

Does he not realize he’d have to cancel trade with the entire EU