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MrTigerEyes

I have been considering similar things and I think you're unlikely to find a lot of good information here because this type of situation isn't necessarily ideal or efficient for tax purposes. Given that I don't really have much information either I think the option seems to be to find a bank, preferably in Europe, that will work with you. I would focus on the banking aspect in general. That alone can be challenging for US citizens even if you're a dual citizen, particularly in Europe. Circling back to the initial paragraph I think you decide where you want to live as your first priority. You can possibly bank elsewhere, although it would be most convenient to live and bank in the same place. My initial plan was to move overseas (still looking at options, personally) but I was considering leaving my funds in USD in US banks. I'm less sure of that now but if things hit the fan there probably won't be any true safe haven. The EU seems like it might be more stable in the long run but at the same time the US market is still booming and there's legitimate FOMO preventing me from pulling out too much money at this time. Good luck, and I hope that we all find the right answers.

SimilarTap1419

Palantir set to close above 180 today. UK and EU are waking up.

Jerikolol

Dutch company, led by a French CEO. LMAO! And thats the best EU can do...

InjuryEmbarrassed532

Sorry you believe that. China got their tariffs, the only place getting steamrolled by China is the EU.

Jerikolol

so the relevant market would be the market for AI GPUs.. however, since INTC has currently 0% market share (?) and AMD has 4% and NVDA has 96%... there isnt a competitive overlap between NVDA and the acquired business. So NVDA would go from 96% to 96%, so a change of 0% and therefore this does not impact the market. Furthermore, in terms of fabs, NVDA is fabless and INTC has fabs, so there's also no overlap there (in addition INTC Is very behind TSMC and other fabs, so no competitive issues either way). So overall, with my 15seconds of thought, there doesn't seem to be any competition issues? Idk depends on **how the chip market is defined** ofc. I said AI GPU, but not sure if the courts/competition authorities have already defined the market. IDK if it should be broader than that.. should it include ALL chips, not just 'AI Chips'? Only certain types of chips? Where? in the US? in the West (EU+ US)? In the entire world (so including marketshare by Huawei, BABA etc? Depending on the definition, you could see NVDA - a dominant company by marketshare - acquiring a competitor, and therefore possibly harming competition in the market. The truth is, why would the competition authorities make a fuss, if Jensen and Trumpo are going on vacations together.. the administration clearly doesn't care, so their agencies wouldn't make a fuss either. Now time for me to j\*\*k off to some hentai.

-Crash_Override-

> quite a ways above the historical average for these companies. This notion that a P/E ratio of 20 is 'normal' and accepted came about when the US was a manufacturing-centric country with a somewhat isolationist foreign policy. Those rules do not apply to the forecast of companies like Google, which are advancing and disseminating technology globally at an alarming rate. Look at earnings reports. Read the transcripts. It's all about expansion into emerging markets. MSFT is opening data centers in South America, South Africa, Nigeria, and Europe. OpenAI just announced a DC push in the UK and India, but they still can't meet capacity stateside. Read the latest transcript from Pinterest earnings. Although far lower $/user in the 'rest of the world' category (so not US or EU) they grew users by something like 70% yoy (vs I think 11% in the US). While companies can certainly be overvalued and have a unrealistic P/E...using the 20th century as a benchmark is no longer viable.

Ok_Plant_2996

I've been having decent success in EU markets. Not sure if that will hold either... But I'm hoping it will hold better

throwa91

Far from weak. Go invest in EU and see how it goes

kc3x

I can't wait for Christmas, The Trump Test will come prices will high and dry or low with no flow cause inflation. The Trade war has been postponed for China this whole time remember, same with EU, Russia. Supposedly next deadline and and this will need to be finalized before tax season, (Supposedly a need) Until China chooses to buy they are holding the Bag and flaunting that Russia,Baltics,EU, are currently subsidizing China's market. I just cant figure out the Semi-War with Mexican countries. For his wife a place to lead?

Rassa09

Why should I go to Hims if I can order all the staff direclty at Novo (EU)?

heikici

US stagflation EU recession China Recession Stock market BOOMING ???

PitchBlack4

Me useing VPN to pay for services in the US because they are some 30% cheaper than in the EU.

Les7X

Invest in the EU! We have... er.... we... we make shiny cars?

tryingtohitchall

Did something happen since EU stocks are absolutely mooning as well as the SP

caesar_7

>The US is the world's largest agricultural exporter. US agri-exports are under 70% of EU.

Happy_Discussion_536

u/nasdaqslut >Why be a bear when you can simply turn off your brain Opposite. Ber ---> latch onto vague hysteria, shout a few times about Shilly PE says bubble, call it a day. Bull ---> carefully has to debunk the 1000s of crap from above. One day it's "ded consumer" next day it's Evergrande or EU freezing over and nat gas going to infinity. Next it's mass layoffs, poor credit consumer, DXY collapse, on and on. Bull has to do the work of going through all the data and actually deciding if all the shit different ber is crying about is real or not. Then go further, continue to ask questions to keep challenging his own thinking because it's stairs up, elevator down if you are wrong. Ber just sits there losing money slowly and content. Bull has to be vigilant. Ber is more often than not lazy and incompetent.

Happy_Discussion_536

Opposite. Ber ---> latch onto vague hysteria look up Shilly PE, call it a day. Bull ---> meticulously has to debunk the 1000s of crap from above. One day it's "ded consumer" next day its Evergrande or EU freezing over and nat gas going to infinity. Next it's mass layoffs, poor credit consumer, DXY collapse, on and on. Bull has to do the work of going through all the data and actually deciding of all the shit ber is crying about is real or not.

asher030

Yeah...it's apparently a shell company for an EU company that is under investigation for stock price manipulation, and despite the potential it had on paper, it seems to be all lies. Plus the constant issuance of 100k shares steadily over the last few months when they're already at excess of 8 BILLION outstanding shares, no fucking wonder the needle has not moved in 2+ years for their value. Had high hopes for them...alas. Sadly even if we all started investing en masse, their constant churning out of new shares without adding value to said existing, or doing the approved buyback they stated there was going to be back in March of 2025...feel it's gonna fold any day now :( Maybe if they do SOMETHING and prove legit, but I'm not seeing it at this point.

lOo_ol

*"I made no claim on the state of humanity"* Mate, that's what "survival" means. Now, it may be someone else who said it, but if you disagree with them, don't come to their rescue then act surprised when we assume you're sharing opinions. And I don't think I'm understating the economic impact at all. It'll be tough for economies like Vietnam or Cambodia but China and the EU have largely decoupled and/or diversified their portfolio to be able to withstand the blow, if you can call that a blow. If you lived outside the US in 2008, you'd know. Barely noticeable if you didn't watch the news. During that period, unemployment rate was unchanged in China. In Germany, unemployment was lower in 2008-2009 than it was in 2006 ([see chart](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.UEM.TOTL.ZS?end=2024&locations=DE&start=1999)) while it went from 4.6% in 2007 to 9.6% in 2010 in the US. You people have an inflated view of the impact of the US over the world and it shows.

Nameisnotyours

Because a small number of shares, low interest and the safe haven (until the mango messiah got in) pumped asset prices to the moon. Why invest in China when they cook their books? Why invest in the EU when they have a government that keeps companies from ripping off consumers? Now that white collar crime can be part of your business plan, the sky is the limit.

lOo_ol

How do you write things like this and think "yeah, makes total sense, not unhinged at all"? Hate to break it to you, but the US is not "in power". It's a large economy that some countries rely on more than others. Nothing more, nothing less. Exports to the US is about 2% of China's GDP, about 3% of the EU's GDP. They now try to strike deals because they understand that trading is better than not trading, but only fools would see that as evidence of strength. So if the US stock market collapses tomorrow, and maybe sit down before you read further, the world will carry on just fine. There will be some economic crisis, some jobs will be lost and everyone will turn to Asian economies to invest, as they've been doing for years. You had a taste of it in 2008. The world didn't turn into some post-apocalyptic hellhole. The shit you read on Reddit smh...

LeverageSynergies

Has nothing to do with that. 1) Trump proposed this in his 1st term 2) The EU adopted this standard in 2013 3) it reduces the need for time consuming accounting

1hipG33K

Aurora, Tilray, and Canopy are all EU-GMP certified in my research. The reason we can only show it for Canadian companies is because American companies can't be GMP certified due to THC still being schedule 1. I think you missed the point in my last comment. In multiple states, my examples being Arizona and California, the state regulations around the cannabis industry meet or exceed gmp certification requirements in many areas.

Sc0rpy4

Either I invest MY money in EU/CH portfolios (higher fees, limited access to VOO etc., no capital gain tax in the future) or my wife invest her money in US hosted portfolios (has capital gain tax, lower fees, has access to VOO etc...). I'm not sure if you don't understand what the question is. I'm well aware that she will have to pay capital gain tax on the liquidated portfolio here in the US, that's not the debate.

wearahat03

China doesn't have much leverage over Nvidia. EU, Middle East and rest of Asia are building up AI capacity. China won't risk falling behind to spite NVDA

ThundaMaka

EU markets run on 6m er. Likely would cause higher IV for the 2 er per year vs 4 mini IV blooms

entropybender

Given your situation, I'd recommend liquidating and moving to a Swiss/EU SP500 UCITS ETF. Avoiding US capital gains tax is smart, and you'll have easier tax reporting. Swiss/EU ETFs often have similar low fees and good tracking. Just ensure the new ETF closely mirrors VOO's performance. Consult a tax professional to confirm the most tax-efficient strategy.

topgeezr

I think the current run is mainly about the defence angle. RR is one of the better peforming stocks in the EU defense universe but you should be looking at Reinmetall and BAE as well. Given the expansion of the defense spend from NATO and allies of NATO and the tendency away from US defense manufacturers, the fact that bigger production runs make winning new business easier, and especially the fact that these shifts play out over years rather than months, I feel like there's a way to go for all of the big EU defense names.

MaybeTheDoctor

It is virtually impossible for a US resident to open a EU bank account. This was a rule change under Obama where banks that didn't report US residents holdings to US-IRS would be banned from doing business in the US, making banks allergic to doing business with ordinary people residing in the US. Switzerland may be different because of tax law but your are essentially in tax evasion territory. Your foreign assets must be included and taxed on you US tax return, whether in your or your wife's name.

iownaford

Hey Microsoft got a deal with the EU (see nobody cares)

Sc0rpy4

The question is about whether to keep investing through her name in the US (she would pay capital gain tax) or invest through my name in Switzerland/EU (no capital gain tax). Obviously, presented like this, it's a no brainer, but fees are higher in Switzerland/EU and access to US products is more limited.

Affectionate_Fly7659

Didn’t Microsoft recently get a deal with EU

Yogurt_Up_My_Nose

EU gonna find a way to fine them for this.

swbat55

You all know that many other countries report semi annually like the EU right? I'm not defending Trump, but what he's suggesting isn't that extreme. Is he using it to cover up his the bad results of his tarrifs? Maybe...

lOo_ol

You're claiming that those companies carry higher risks. I'm asking you to prove your point, like when you double-down on currency risk when the beloved USD is being dumped like spoiled milk as we speak. I'm saying there's no substance behind those claims, just a gross feeling over a country that most Americans couldn't even place on a map. *"Accounting risk is improving"*. You're downplaying it. Again, those companies are audited just like any other American companies, and the audit reports are submitted and validated by the SEC, which is part of the Holding Foreign Companies Accountable Act. *"Baba faced fines and regulations"* They did not. They got a slap on the wrist for violating anti-trust laws ($2 billion dollar fine if I remember correctly, half of Google's fine by the EU in 2018). No other fine was issued. As a matter of fact, China remains far behind the EU and the US in total anti-trust fines, so far behind that everyone panicks when they give one.

Gdap1992

Soon to be an EU dish the way things are going there 😂

bisoncorp

This is actually huge for 3 reasons: * 23,000 GPUs = roughly the computing power of 1/4 of all WSB members' gaming PCs combined * First time we're seeing Big Tech pivot hard into UK after years of EU-focused investments * Brad Smith went from 'UK regulators are killing innovation' to 'take my money' in record time The real 4D chess move? While everyone's distracted by Trump meeting King Charles, MSFT is basically building Skynet 2.0 in Birmingham. At least this time it'll have a British accent when it takes over.

ballmode

CNBC reported microsoft AI deal with EU worth $30billy and doesn't even move

harrison_wintergreen

EU has done this for years, I see no problem in principle.

RockingMAC

We don't pay for NATO spending. Nobody pays NATO. EU countries don't owe NATO anything. EU NATO members agreed to a voluntary 2% of GDP target for military spending. There's been several different targets and goal dates, but last I checked most countries we following their roadmaps to 2%. The US spends more on its military than the next thirteen largest military spenders COMBINED. It's a bit hard to compete with that.

Frenchyyyy4166

3% is the new 2% Even if the logical thing to do is sell off, trump has big deals with EU and announcements with china set up for this week. Why do you think he’s done that? If you’re holding calls for October and beyond, you’ll be fine , if weekly , maybe trim 🤷‍♂️

lifeisahighway2023

I am not alone in my surprise at how well Canada is doing in consideration of the pressure being applied on the country by Trump. I find it very interesting that Carney is almost the only world leader who has never backed down in negotiation with Trump. No "we have a trade agreement" a la the many announcements by Trump after meeting with China, Japan, EU, India and others, only to see each "agreement" fall apart sometimes just days afterwards. It would be interesting to know what component of food is impacting food inflation. I wonder if beef prices are a factor. Here in America beef prices have become absurd. Most of my family lives in Canada scattered across 4 provinces and I routinely chat with them comparing food pricing. Many items seem to be cheaper up there although we all believe that in winter produce and vegetable pricing will increase in Canada.

AbductedAlien01

I mean, this is the standard in the EU, so I don't think it would be disastrous.

CheapAttempt2431

EU indexes absolutely fucking dying, what the fuck happened???

tropicalia84

Looks like all the bears started shorting the europoor indices after getting their backs blown out by the chad US perma-bulls. EU indices getting obliterated today.

Sc0rpy4

Yea, already did, waiting for a reply. My wife would not invest in Switzerland, EU. It'd be going through my name.

Soberdonkey69

I know that is a standard in the UK and EU, but for the US I appreciate the transparency of quarterly earnings as it also gives a good indication of economic factors. This is what I suspect the current administration wants to hide, less transparency is bad for shareholder confidence and for assessing risks.

apolitical_Orc

Imagine being a US tourist in the EU right now and every day dinner costs a few percent more than the previous day. I am gonna be a dollar millionaire soon at that rate :D

leeuwvanvlaanderen

Incredible, EU economy expanded by 14.39% :O  (in USD)

No_Feeling920

PHYS if you're not in EU.

bigElenchus

Literally most of the world has semi annual filings including all of EU, Switzerland, and many of the ASEA countries.

triwyn

dude look at all the tech they have coming out. look how many deals they have made. deals with new jersey port authority, huge deal with smci, launch of defense tech for nato, deals with india, south africa, romania. deals with the city of superior. the fact that the EU will probably outlaw new and existing network tech. they just launch new automation tech for railways. there is countless more since their last earnings. they are literally happening daily. they’ve been upgraded by several analysts to a buy or strong buy. i have 330 450c expiring october 24th.

jpochoag

EU moved away from quarterly reporting in 2013 and still 40-45% of companies choose to report something on a quarterly basis because there’s value and market demand for it. There’s studies out there and mostly seem inconclusive, so why lower the bar for public companies? If they really think it’s such a pain or so different than reporting to their private owners then don’t go public soliciting retail investor funds. This seems like noise. I have heard passionate arguments that reporting is a waste of time, but it’s all from the company mgmt side. No good management team will alter their business decisions because they have to file some numbers every quarter. They all close the books once a month anyways, so why not make it available to the owners/shareholders.

WrongAssumption

The EU moved from mandatory quarterly reporting to twice a year reporting 10 years ago. Was it terrible when they did it?

DahlbergT

Not really. The phenomenon you are describing is an issue of mentality and mindset - not rules and regulations. Companies in regions that usually have a more long-term outlook (EU, China) also report on a quarterly basis. That they have to report quarterly doesn't force them into disregarding the bigger picture and the long-term outlook, that all sits in the managements' views and mentality on how to manage the business.

gizamo

The EU stopped requiring quarterly reports in 2013, and the UK stopped it in 2014. Tons of companies in both still do quarterly reporting. The Frankfurt Stock Exchange still requires quarterly reports for prime markets, but they're the only major exchange that I'm aware of that does. That said, I really don't think the US should be aiming to be like Europe or China in this regard. There are good reasons Europeans and Chinese investors throw so much money into US stocks, and part of that is definitely the extra transparency and accountability that is offered here.

SinisterCheese

I hope that you are also aware that places other than USA exist. Tesla has some... issues here in Europe, and the fact that the CEO keeps pushing themselves into our local politics is not helping them by the looks of it. But even if not a single car was sold in EU, somehow the fucking stock would find a way to go up.

cakewalk093

That's factually wrong. A lot of EU stocks in the last 20 years have been stagnating or gone downhill(inflation adjusted). That's because companies in EU countries generally didn't really grow. And a lot of Europeans actually choose American stocks over European stocks because one has potential for growth/innovation and the other doesn't.

Jyil

Is that what the UK, the EU, and Australia do?

Jyil

Is that what happens in the EU, the UK, and Australia?

Jyil

The UK, the EU, and Australia already report this way.

Jyil

Are you calling the UK, Australia, and the EU dense too? International markets have done this for decades.

Jyil

Sure they will. It’ll encourage longer term investors versus short-term. They already do it in the UK, Australia, and the EU.

Jyil

Looks at major international markets Australia, UK, and the EU. They’ve been doing this for decades.

KAI5ER

# Key points * **Why it matters:** Schedule III acknowledges medical use and lowers abuse classification; symbolism aside, it could unlock capital and legitimacy—but with heavy federal controls. * **Not legalization:** Adult-use remains state-governed. Federal oversight would sit **on top of** state rules, creating a dual-regime many small operators will struggle to navigate. * **Compliance burden:** Expect **DEA licenses**, meticulous inventory controls, **cGMP/QMS**, validated processes, stability data, and disciplined labeling/claims at FDA standards. * **Process reality:** A president can’t “flip a switch.” HHS/FDA evaluation, DEA rulemaking, comments, and probable legal challenges mean timing is uncertain despite political signals. * **Global lessons:** Germany and Canada show **EU-GMP/Pharma-grade** regimes shrink the field and raise costs; Morocco shows legacy producers need capital/partners to survive. * **State–federal friction:** Conflicting standards (packaging, claims, distribution) will create **operational gray zones** until clear federal guidance arrives. * **Economics:** Compliance costs (facilities, staff, audits, systems) are **millions**—driving **M&A**, PE involvement, and potential pharma entry. # Author’s thesis Rescheduling is the **overture** to a pharma-style framework. Success hinges on operators embracing compliance as the price of legitimacy; resistance risks being left behind.

Jyil

Is that what Australia, U.K., and the EU have been doing for decades now?

Jyil

You’re still required to report. Why don’t you ask the UK, Australia, and the EU about it? That’s how it has worked with the markets there. Come back with an answer when you learn a bit more about international markets.

Jyil

And so did Australia, UK, and most of the EU. Is this your first time learning about how some of the biggest stock markets outside of the NA operate?

Jyil

There’s a lot of people here commenting that don’t really understand how this will positively impact companies. Seems most people with 0 experience investing always find their way to threads that mention Trump and talk with their foot in their mouths. Tell us how you are new to the investing without you are new to investing. This is going to encourage longer term investments and less short-term trades. The UK already does this. Much of the EU does this and so does Australia.

BetterProphet5585

It’s the same in Italy, also about pensions. I think it has to do with how we want to walk everyone towards death like we’re babies. We have to file the Mifid in order to invest, that alone is insane compared to how accessible options are in the USA. Sure, some people fuck their lives, but they are free to do so as they like. Casino is open. For us, if you want to play at the casino you have to take a test and if you don’t pass 3/4 of the games are locked. You can cheat the test, and that alone makes it entirely useless. I will never understand the EU model, we also cry for not enough investments and low financial literacy when there are billions rotting in bank accounts and people don’t have nor want to manage their money. Do you think there is a reason behind this or are we just collectively dumb?

Terrible-Increase999

This also works in the EU because you guys have tighter regulation and penalization so your execs are less incentivized to commit fraud and hence reporting every 6 months works just fine with the same amount of transparency as in the US every quarter

1-Dollar-Doge-Coins

Or, part of the reason the US has historically been more attractive for investors is due to transparency in reporting. Saying the EU does semi-annual isn't exactly a selling point.

FullCopy

We need LaGarde as the next Fed Chairman. She delivered for the EU. JPOW looks more like a non-transitory clown. My opinion, BTW, was very data-driven.

Treadmiler

Reducing public reporting from quarterly to semiannual isn’t reckless, it’s actually pragmatic. The current reporting system demands constant output from every department, not just finance, creating a year-round reporting treadmill diverting focus from long-term strategy. Trump’s proposal to shift to bi-annual disclosures mirrors practices in the UK and EU. Executives such as Warren Buffett and Jamie Dimon have long argued quarterly reporting fuels short-termism at the expense of sustainable growth.

Venice_LA

EU coming to end of rate cut cycle, while the US begins. going to be big rotation from EU back into the US

ethereal3xp

I kindly disagree It looks correctly valued currently. Maybe up to 40 cents if sales rate continues to rise. They need to scale into the EU and Asian market. Where people chain smoke like crazy.

SnooOpinions1643

EU sucks and so does the EU stock companies.

parasyte_steve

It will ruin the economy but idc do it, I wanna sell my house and move to the EU lol 😆

harpswtf

It's not an outrageous idea, the EU only requires earnings reports twice a year. I agree with staggering, but I guess you'd have to group them by industry so you're not favoring certain companies (e.g. requiring earnings reports from retail after months that are typically slow for retail). What about companies that overlap several industries?

floo82

It's always been that way. That's when the EU wakes up and trades US futures

MarsDominus

$EU pumping hard. Up 15% now 👀

The-Big-Picture-

The fact that they EU does it isn't really a selling point for me honestly...

VertexMachine

Which part of EU? I have to report monthly here

bootchmagoo

Honestly, I would love this initiative - EU already does this as with other first world countries. Some of you need to remove your political hat for a second and realize this is a good thing. Companies needing to provide guidance on a Q basis literally makes no sense when most companies don't operate MoM.

Senuttna

Tesla's own earning calls must be lying then... The EU's official car registry must be also lying... You guys are a joke...

kosta77

So EU and UK companies are less transparent?

kosta77

So EU and UK companies are less transparent?

stickman07738

Although they reportable have some of the best inverters, I would avoid due to current political environment. I was watching the EU version (SEDG) but missed the run-up.

MarsDominus

Bruh $EU is up 6%

Suspicious_Wheel_194

I don't know where you live but rules differ significantly across EU countries. In Poortugal it's 28% for short-term down to 8% for long-term (8+ years of holding) if I remember correctly

Happy_Discussion_536

EU has signaled that inflation has hit their target and tamed. They will begin easing which means dollar decline, if at all will be extremely slow and not material for deciding where to invest. Growth will still trump currency fluctuation concerns.

MarsDominus

$EU up 5% https://preview.redd.it/u52uhf6cgcpf1.jpeg?width=392&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33757a76c6f9abd6adbd4e676077ba0fb6d2435b

CompetitiveBee808

Under the **EU Transparency Directive** (2004/109/EC, amended by Directive 2013/50/EU): * **Half-yearly (semi-annual) financial reports** are **mandatory** for companies whose securities are admitted to trading on a regulated market (e.g., stock exchanges like Euronext). * **Quarterly reports are not mandatory** under EU law anymore. #

Wide_Lock_Red

It works fine in the EU.

CompetitiveBee808

that's the norm in the EU, would you like to comment on that

Wide_Lock_Red

EU does semi annual and it works fine.

JStanten

6 month reporting is more akin to the UK and EU than China…and Dimon and Buffet have advocated for it in the past to encourage less short term thinking by companies.

Many_Application3112

Semi-annual reporting is actually the norm in the EU. Reporting 2x a year instead of 4x a year is not going to introduce "rampant" fraud. All this does is reduce the number of times you need to manipulate your numbers for Wall Street. You'll do the same exact thing semi-annually that you do quarterly. So that means layoffs 2x a year instead of 4x.

Swingtrader79

No, they are absolutely crushing it. Powering data centers and EU aircraft. Two tailwinds, one stock. They are the GEV of Europe.

MitchCurry

I had both same thoughts haha Japan, EU, they're all every 6 months and it doesn't both me when keeping up with Nintendo, ASML, etc. I also figured this is to hide some fraud in DJT.