EU

Bright-Tomatillo5203

tbh, Yeah, if the EU dumps treasuries, it could shake things up. Rates might spike, and everyone’s holding the bag.

Acrobatic-Key-9857

Yeah, if the EU dumps treasuries, it could crete a big ripple effect. It’s a messy situation for sure.

oberwolfach

Everyone, including the EU, will lose a lot of money.

gagagagaNope

Yep. Co-pay is the way. Embed personal responsibility. For UK socialists, it's the only area where they don't claim the EU is miles better than the UK. Much of europe has immeasurably better outcomes, often at much lower cost. For them the only two healthcare models are the NHS or an uninsured person in the USA.

kfkots

EU is mostly done for. Unless you are European yourself, do not invest EU.

Diddly_eyed_Dipshite

Is your EU positions an ETF or individual stocks, and if so what sectors you mostly in?

RafaelSeco

Tesla hasn't released anything relevant in years. There's nothing new in sight, the cyber truck was an absolute failure. Iet, the stock goes to the moon. You can only have capital gains if there are dividends to be paid. Otherwise, the stock is worthless... Or a meme stock, and by that point, it's not an investment, it's gambling. If a mature, well established, well regulated company that consistently turns a way higher profit is basically worthless next to a company that it dwarfs, on paper, something must be wrong. Volkswagen is worth 60B and turned 17B in profit last year. Tesla is worth 800B and turned 8B in profit last year. Volkswagen invests a lot more into research and development than Tesla, so they are more likely to grow in the future... Why doesn't Tesla just buy Volkswagen? They are worth so much, surely they have the money? Why don't they have the money? Because it doesn't exist. It's fake money, value based on the last share sold. I own a company. I sell 49% of the shares to Mr A. Mr A sells 1% of the shares to you for an astronomical amount of money, 250P/E. The company would, on paper, be worth an absolute fortune, and it didn't get a single cent of actual investment. Are you starting to see the problem? OpenAI is not selling shares in order to gather investment, but they are making commitments based on their market cap. Where is the money? How are they going to pay 1.5T next year? They can't, and the US government will have to bail them out, otherwise everything comes crumbling down. Meanwhile, in the EU, the economy is stagnant, infrastructure is built, cars get sold, life quality improves. But hey, your change to make some sweet profits on capital gains is gone...

analbuttlick

Its up 100% ytd mate. I have some BABA and tencent for China exposure and GOOGL and AMZN for US exposure. Rest is all EU for me

runmeupmate

I really don't care about tesla. But it's worth pointing out that tesla is the reason the EU enacted electric car mandates; the german makers would never had moved out of their comfort zone with a new technology. The american economy is the best in world in every respect and keeps getting better faster. Labour productivity hasn't stopped increasing for the past 20 years, unlike in europe which has been stagnant since 2008. This is why you are probably mostly invested in american companies like I am - better growth, better stock value.

antoine1246

Eu valuations are relative. If everyone thinks EU is trash and its slightly less trash, valuations rise as well as currency. US owns all tech, M7, etc. For years the EU was known for cars but instead of being innovative and reducing waste, we got things like the volkswagen scandal, spending billions to invent cheap tricks to fake lower waste. All this while china was actually being innovative and has 100+ electric car brands. In 10 years we will see the effect of this Also, SP500 has a valuation of over 45T, eu markets get nowhere close

Fitzcablammo

I hope EU does dump that $2 Trillion in US debt and tips the USA in to economic catastrophe.

MirthandMystery

And one thing never talked about is how the great Covid crash of 2020 happened months after the building crisis of 0% interest (payout) rates where banks didn't want your cash and certainly didn't want to pay you anything for holding it. It was a huge pressure building in EU and UK too where banks were losing money holding cash, unsustainable and a freakish situation. It's all they talked about in Dec and Jan into early Feb. The FED wouldn't raise rates and kept lowing them, creating a 'perfect storm' conditions. I still wonder if a small otherwise manageable covid crisis was somewhat manufactured and amplified into a large one given we were on the brink of major economic dislocations naturally. Something had to give, it was crazy the amount of cash and debt floating around. Mohammad El Arian called the black swan saying in late Feb 2020 any lasting global shut down due to lockdowns and employers losing workers, would result in supply chain mayhem, creating real problems and inflation due to scarcity and unreliability of shipped goods that our economy relied on, and other countries. The silence from the pros listening to him was deafening, and I got chills. He was dead right. There was no way to avoid what was coming. Stocks began selling off that week. That we were able to get back to higher interest rates was a near miracle. Such crazy system it requires it, which hurts regular consumers. Trump just wants us back to 0-1% again since it helps his own huge loan costs. He'll never use his own grift-gotten and fake crypto cash to pay down debt.

leeuwvanvlaanderen

Incredible that manufacturing everywhere is getting absolutely hammered. US, china, Japan, EU all fuk 

RafaelSeco

Tell me. How much has openAI promised to invest next year, how much have they committed, and how much do they profit? 1.5 trillion dollars. That's 1.5 million millions... Enough to buy each american a Ferrari. How much do they profit (including deals made with companies that directly invest in them)? 20 billion, 20,000 millions. How can a company that makes 20k a year make a commitment to spend 1.5 million next year? Where is the money coming from? And it doesn't end there. Do GPUs last long? If they do, then how is Nvidia going to sell so many of them every year? If they don't, then who can afford to spend hundreds of billions per year to keep stuff up to date? What about powe, if they are already limited by power consumption, why isn't the US government investing in infrastructure? Heck, why did it cut funds to renewables? There's no plan. Europe isn't all in on AI. But guess what, yesterday, another section of the world's biggest fusion reactor has been completed... The Renault 5, and 4, and Twingo, and all their new "made 100% in the EU" stuff that's selling like cupcakes (heck, it's such a good deal that I'm buying one) won't last? Tesla has completely disappeared from the top 25 most sold cars in Europe... The world's "biggest" car company doesn't even break the top 25 in Europe anymore. That should tell you all... Why is Tesla worth so much? Why is the stock worth so much? You could tell me that Tesla could be making huge profits in the future and handing out dividends to all the shareholders, but that's not true. Even if it was, Elon would make sure you wouldn't get anything with his pay packages. Why is the stock worth what it is? If it's going to go up, why? Why would anyone buy it, if they're never going to see a single dividend?

runmeupmate

ECB is projecting 1.3% growth in 2027 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/projections/html/index.en.html >People need to realise that shares exist for one thing, and one thing only. Dividends. That's not true, or at least it shouldn't be >Making your GDP skyrocket is easy, all you need is 3 companies, deregulation, and a bubble.. Those companies are making massive profits and all of them are larger than most european countries' economies. The made in EU thing won't last and is based on a country by country basis. It isn't profitable to any of that stuff in europe any more; deindustrialisation will continue and making a few fighter jets isn't going to stop that

No_Aerie_2717

They have already made deals with different EU/ASIA countries. I do not think that geopolitics are obstacle for this company due EU banned LNG imports from Russia etc.

Dapper-Box-3111

And the EU wonders why it’s no longer competitive and is an afterthought when it comes to AI and innovation.

RafaelSeco

2% growth of what? Stock values? Car companies are selling more cars, industry and construction is booming, we're even back to making stuff 100% in the EU. People need to realise that shares exist for one thing, and one thing only. Dividends. You buy a share, the company gets investment money, the company develops and sells a product, makes profit, and you then get a share of those profits. If the company, or someone else wants to buy back your shares, cool, but the objective should always be to get a return on investment in 5-6 years. Making your GDP skyrocket is easy, all you need is 3 companies, deregulation, and a bubble...

Outrageous_Tip_2133

margin calls triggered by BTC selloff in Asia. Will probably continue when the EU and US markets open.

ZoominBoomin

Shit weather and shit food. Now they can't even call themselves part of the EU. Must suck. Europe is fucked anyways. 

FeverTreeCloud

They voted for Brexit and bitch about Brexit all the time. Hear them complain that they have to stand in line with Ameripoors 🇺🇸 at airports and train stations instead of using the express EU line they used to 🤣

Daymjoo

Oh no, the US ignoring the WTO or NATO? That would be crazy... Bro, just a few months ago you bombed the shit out of a sovereign country while the entire EU was begging for a negotiated, diplomatic solution. What are you talking about? And your president gave 0 fucks about your congress when he bombed Iran, a de facto declaration of war, why would he care now?

AllCapNoBrake

I can't wait for the masses to realize that the entire western society (EU/Canada/US) are run by the same zionist machine. DJT is just a smol hat democrat thrown in to gently ease the US into Bolshevism which is what Harris was tapped to do, but she wouldn't have leaned SO much into MIGA, as DJT very clearly has.

Daxnu

EU defense arms stock go way up, no one wants to trust American military tech as the US can just shut down their weapon via wifi

Sarcasm69

Just like when they told us EU tech is coming in hot... Investment this year has been piss relative to the US.

godmademelikethis

Peace talks on the table. With sanctions lifting being discussed (disgusting). I want war, and not just because my UK/EU defence pie was doing so well.

John_OSheas_Willy

Ukraine wants to give 0% but knows it's in a lose lose situation. Ukraine doesn't need to join NATO to have backing of EU armies. If Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Italy etc. can't beat Russia, they're fucked.

Crypto_Force_X

Couple weeks ago I heard they approached EU with hopes to secure more deals. My guess is you are right.

Diddly_eyed_Dipshite

Thanks, firstly not the UK, I'm EU and using T212. I'd rather not open up another platform account and prefer to keep everything together, but will keep looking for an ETF that suits to consolidate and reduce individual holdings. Appreciate the response, some suggestions I'm getting make it seem like I'm totally fucking myself over and it'll be the ruin of me financially. I'm not expecting to beat the market long term by holding these stocks, but I'm the short term, yeah I would think that by next year at least half of those tech names I will be able to trim profits and add that cash straight into the ETF. I'm not greedy or expecting 10 baggers but in the short term (1,2,3 yrs) AI, semiconductors, data centre infrastructure will return greater gains than the market rate and I want to capture some of that.

gibe93

but by the time that can happen the US and EU will have enough chip manufacturing

Clear_Anything1232

Fucking EU politicians is what you get when you let Linkedin Lunatics lead people Someone should be declared war criminal for that stupid cookie banners I'm forced to click everyday 5 mins

kaapooj

Privacy in EU is soon dead EU countries reach breakthrough on chat-scanning law despite intense pushback "[...] messaging services such as WhatsApp and Signal would be allowed to voluntarily install software for automated chat monitoring, and the scope of such monitoring could even be expanded. Mandatory measures are to be reconsidered in the future." https://www.mpg.de/25788438/chat-control-eu-client-side-scanning

kaapooj

EU can't help themselves, regulation over everything Belgian Federal Police forgot to turn their VPN on - accidentally exposing their bot army that was promoting a mandatory data retention surveillance law within the EU's impact assessment https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/z4tDalBSmq

rmcandre

This highlights an ongoing regulatory challenge for Meta. The $12-14B estimate represents roughly 10-12% of Meta's annual revenue, though not all would disappear under enforcement. The EU's Digital Services Act gives regulators power to impose fines up to 6% of global revenue, making a €1B fine plausible but not catastrophic (Meta's 2023 revenue was ~$135B). The bigger concern is potential impacts to their advertising model if forced to implement stronger verification systems. This pattern mirrors previous regulatory cycles where Meta absorbs fines as a cost of doing business while adapting compliance measures gradually.

6541191

You might want to look at EURO STOXX indices ETFs which track companies from Eurozone countries specifically. SPDR EURO STOXX 50 ETF (FEZ) or iShares Core MSCI Eurozone ETF (HEZU) both focus on EU countries and exclude the UK. The Vanguard FTSE Europe ETF (VGK) is popular but does include UK stocks (about 20%), so it's not purely EU. The iShares MSCI Eurozone ETF (EZU) is probably the closest to what you're seeking - it's focused specifically on EU member states that use the Euro.

stef_eda

12 Billion earnings - 1 Billion fine. Meta net earnings: 11 Billiom EU net income: 1 Billion To me looks like a win-win deal.

O-to-shiba

And it doesn’t cost billions to capture and hoard data. Plus there’s a whole industry of data protection exactly for that. Do you think the EU GDPR came predicting companies would capture their data in the future? You do aggregations, anonymizations etc etc.

AlphaGoBravo

FFS was the EU blind with what was going for nearly a decade? WTF happened to their INTEL network? They should have formed a centralized EU military and weapons production. This is what happens when you put all your eggs in a 🤪 🍊🧺 And how do you think your software updates are gonna workout for those jets? Or satellite connections?

Quotama4

I hold all the big tech in QQQ. I don't need American banks, insurance consumer staples energy and production stocks if these dont outperform their EU counterparts by a lot. Tech is the only thing that outperforms in the US for the last so many years. Which means it now dominates the S&P500, I totally get that. S&P500 is however now far from the diversified mix it is made out to be. So QQQ that is what I am exposing myself to. And to diversify the mixI take the all those Banks, insurers, energy and production from the EU market. Since those boring stocks are not doing any better in the US. I can tune the amount I invest in tech and the amount I invest in more boring stuff. This way I take less currency risk than just holding S&P500. And most of the boring EU stocks are performing much better than Americans think. MSCI europe etf is +16% YTD. In EURO, not dollars, while the dollar moved 13% in the wrong direction for us EU folks.

Plexus84

EU recognizes Trump as russian

MasinaDeCalcul

# BBC: Hungary's Orban defies EU partners and meets Putin again in Moscow Going all-in with Russia.

MasinaDeCalcul

# Hungary's Orban defies EU partners and meets Putin again in Moscow Going all-in with Russia.

mks_csw

gimme that nice EU money to build another stadium in my hometown (Puskás Aréna is sick tho)

iMakeGOODinvestmemts

$GOOGL has pulled its EU antitrust complaint against $MSFT's Azure cloud after Brussels opened a DMA probe into Azure and AWS. Google says it still backs its claims about “anticompetitive cloud licensing practices,” but will now let the Commission’s DMA investigation run its course, per statements from Google and the EU regulator

doctad92

EU in 15 is first real signal right? We gonna have a global event?

ukindly_ad8153

Drip, drip, drip … takes forever for $ to grow exponentially in EU market. Where is the beautiful waterfall .. on the other side of town (USA) & let’s go make some big bucks!

kaapooj

EU countries reach breakthrough on chat-scanning law despite intense pushback The revised agreement makes voluntary scanning (e.g. Whatsapp, Signal) permanent under EU law. https://www.mpg.de/25788438/chat-control-eu-client-side-scanning -- close to be a done deal. especially looking forward to see how voluntary becomes "mandated", privacy in the EU soon dead

SnooHedgehogs5162

Dollar few % down doesn't mean a thing when Nasdaq is up 90% in 5 years. And Europeans can buy US stocks in EURO as well. No need to do EU-Dollar swap

CalebAfterDarks

Expansion to America is a big step. And scaling in EU as well. Heavy lifting to do that at the same time

Th1rt13n

Shell trying to reopen it again. Really, they fucked em over Plus EU (TTF) is going back towards really low 20s this summer, Asian LNG demand is in the gutters too. Still, I believe VG is going to become THE big one, just gonna take me really good time to see the position turn green lol

No_Aerie_2717

US LNG. SP got fucked up by tactical shorting from IPO. Future growth. Making long-term deals with different countries already. Expanding really fast (banks loaned money,not dilution). EU exports are increasing rapidly due upcoming Russian LNG ban. Trying to compete with Cheniere (ticker LNG). Huge possibility that it will compete easily. Making revenue already. Not making loss.

Ordinary_Anxiety_133

Not to mention wallstreet isn't playing the EU market at that time and they drive a lot of the volume

mulletstation

Most people have multiple apps, Lyft and uber are the same service and there's a million other apps in Asia and the EU

ronoudgenoeg

> Chat control It failed to pass 3 times now but they're working on a 4th attempt AGAIN. We love democracy in the EU. If the people don't want it, quietly change the wording slightly and then try again over and over until it passes.

__redruM

I googled “facebook EU fine”, and nothing close came up. Just include a link. It’s your post, click edit up top and cut-n-paste a link in. > utm_source=chatgpt.com Lol

__redruM

I googled “facebook EU fine”, and nothing close came up. Just include a link, certainly you still could edit one in. But apparently you couldn’t be bothered to cut-n-paste.

Plus_Seesaw2023

If the best counter-argument is “haha the EU,” then the point stands: Meta profited massively from fraudulent ads, and regulators ; whether in the EU or the U.S. ; exist precisely for situations like this. Innovation doesn’t mean letting companies make billions off scams.

Regardium-Leviosa

Up 0.76 Euros today. Three times the average yearly salary in the EU without even lifting a finger. Going to open a restaurant with these gains

Nietzscher

If you want to stay strictly in the EU something like the iShares Core EURO STOXX 50 UCITS ETF (IE00B53L3W79) is probably your best bet. Personally, I also like the STOXX Europe 600 (LU0328475792) because you get 200 Large-, 200 Mid-, and 200 Smallcaps in one basket. However, there you'll have a sizeable chunk of UK and Swiss companies in the mix as well. So, if you want to stay strictly EU it is either the STOXX 50 or you're willing to look into newer and significantly smaller ETFs like WisdomTree Eurozone Quality Dividend Growth UCITS ETF (IE00BZ56TQ67). The crux with the STOXX 50 is, it isn't a index for the largest companies of the European Union, but the largest companies of the Eurozone. Also, because it only tracks the biggest 50 companies there usually are only companies from 7-10 different countries represented at any given time (France, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, Spain + some Nordic and Belgian stocks that shuffle in and out of the index depending on market cap).

Significant-Role-754

this wont stop anything. EU needs to hit harder

asdafari14

The EU uses a shotgun to regulate though. Some good and some bad. Some unpopular ones: Chat control, cookies, forced migration and asylum pacts, very tough AML rules affecting normal people, ban on high-power vaccum cleaners, ban on some light bulbs etc.

sleepyj58

And we (in the US) we are better off for it. Our political system is laughably broken and favors corporate interests over actual citizens' interests, so it's nice to see at least the EU pushing back on unchecked enshittification since we won't.

Quotama4

So I hold the big tech stocks in qqq. I am not discounting you shouldn't hold them at all. But this combo is a better return than just S&P500 with less currency risk. From a EU investor standpoint it makes sense.

narullow

This is not true. This applies only because EU stocks got hit by covid harder and took longer to recover. It is not ideal comparison but equal weight should suffice here because it ould largely ignore Mag7 premium: [https://www.justetf.com/en/asset-comparisons/index-comparisons/sp500-equal-weight-vs-stoxx-europe-600](https://www.justetf.com/en/asset-comparisons/index-comparisons/sp500-equal-weight-vs-stoxx-europe-600) The time window of outperformance is between 2021-2025 and vast majority of that stemps from the fact that US recovered from covid in 2020 already whereas EU stocks took up until 2021 to grow to its previous levels. US was up 20% on EU then wwhich completely erases EU being up 15% on US in last 4 years. Not to mention that last 6 months US already outperforms so it is not even true anymore.

narullow

European companies are exposed to EU's GDP. Because this is what really stands behind them and makes them European. Do you think that company that makes vast majority of their money outside of Europe will stay as "European" long term? Lower GDP means less investments, less funding, less valuable knowledge economy. Everything. This creates competetive disadvantage which means tthat those european companies will be eated alive. Not just by US companies btw.

Kresnik1412

Don‘t you think that‘s smart? Everytime US invests in EU stocks it will be sold when stock market opens the day After. That way european investors and gamblers are happy to Sell the higher rated volume, when you are sleeping. Am I wrong?

fattytuna96

Oh no the EU! bastions of innovation

kaapooj

invest in EU markets

IndubitablyNerdy

Europeans citizens and institutions also invest a lot in USA financial markets, If i remember well I checked some papers about market capitalization a few months ago and the estimate was that that European investors hold an equivalent of roughly 60% of the capitalization of all EU+UK exchanges combined in USA stocks. This, combined with the fact that the USA is the EU largest trade partner by far (and that we also have a ton of usa trasuries in our financial institutions balace sheets) mean that our markets are very much affected by what happens in Wall Street even without considering the political influence that Washington has on the West.

shatureg

Once you take into account population growth and exchange rate fluctuations, EU GDP per capita has actually grown faster than the US and you don't even have to exclude the magnificent 7 for that to be true. Given that the GOP wants to devalue the USD and crack down on immigration, we will see significant changes in nominal GDP between the US and EU in the coming years and a lot of the memes of the last few years will become obsolete.

michal939

EU had a real gdp growth of 1.4%/yr since q1 2009 vs 2.2%/yr for the US. Sure, its worse, but I wouldn't call it stagnant compared to the US (also a lot of that difference comes from the post-covid recovery which was much better good in the US, probably fueled by insane deficit spending)

Quotama4

Always the Bashing that EU stocks are irrelevant. I hold US tech through QQQ and a EU ETF ( which has little tech ) and actually I do pretty well this way. The EU etf grows pretty stable without a lot of tech / AI exposure outside of ASML. Accumulating ETF so any dividends get reinvested. Not doing bad at all. Yes its not as high growth, but consistent returns year on year. No overvalued stocks you really have to worry about and less worry for me about exchange rate risk. And no hedging is not worth it over long term 20 year plus. Take out magnificent 7 from S&P500 and performance would be worse than the EU ETF. So yes I take the qqq and other US stocks for higher growth more risk and keep a stable foundation of EU stocks. Its not terrible in returns. Without the EU stocks, return this year would be lower.

Chalupa_89

The US is saved by innovation. The EU isn't.

NewOil7911

European companies in the stock market are mainly global companies. They make money in the US, Europe, Asia. You're commenting as if European companies were only exposed to EU's GDP evolution. That was true....in 1970.

NewOil7911

I mean yeah, 7 companies in the same sector. 7 companies out of *500.* Means that US pharma does worse than EU pharma, and so on, and so on

Chumbag_love

EU stocks seem to have has lower P/E ratios and higher dividends.

SignificanceGlum75

there are way more regulations in the EU than in the US when it comes to moving money and assets

TechTuna1200

I think it has more to do with the US driving a lot of the price movements in EU stocks and foreign markets due to its sheer economic size. e.g., outside the EU markets, Hang Seng moved 0.07% today.

Commercial_Deer_7114

I thought you were talking about the EU, because heck yeah they need some accountability

kaapooj

basically but at least not regarded enough to invest in EU markets

kaapooj

and no one will ever even those that live in the EU and that speaks volume about how useless the EU is.

kaapooj

nobody invests in the EU

KateCrash87

EU markets are open.. is everybody sleeping op ATAI? [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/h-c-wainwright-maintains-buy-133916105.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/h-c-wainwright-maintains-buy-133916105.html)

MarketCrache

What's the bet Trump and the EU have a falling out about this. I feel like there's a cavernous divide developing between the 2 sides and US tech giants will be the ping pong balls in the middle. Especially since the EU basically has no tech giants but is short on moolah.

Pretty_Ad_7885

dude thinks it is 10 000 to 1 lol Go to any major city in EU and see for yourself

Fun-Stress3337

Only 20 more years of average EU growth and we might be where the US was in 2014

EffectivePoet4572

zuck will just call daddy trump to tell the EU to eff off

13jfncjai31

I have no clue got gotta do your own digging about best options in EU/Ireland sorry pal :/ I also wouldn’t follow what I say just because I put a lot of fancy numbers and sound confident either. I’m just some dude, take what I say as a kernel and explore the topics yourself and see if you come to the same conclusion

digital_bubblebath

Im really thankful for the EU sometimes in standing up to the gross practices of these companies. The really ought to be larger than the profit they made from scams.

tristanryan

Doesn’t matter EU will continue to regulate itself into irrelevance.

ImprovementMain7109

The headline number sounds huge, but from an investor POV I’d want to know: 12–14B over what time frame, and relative to ~150B+ in annual revenue. If that’s cumulative over several years, it’s morally awful but financially a rounding error. A 1B EU fine is like a bad quarter of FX noise. Hurts optics, not the balance sheet. The real risk isn’t the one-off fine, it’s if regulators force structural changes to the ad stack: stricter KYC for advertisers, pre-vetting financial promos, liability for scam losses, etc. That hits operating margin on compliance costs and potentially reduces high-CTR “too good to be true” ads that currently monetize well. There’s also a game-theory angle: right now Meta internalizes the revenue and externalizes the damage to users. Regulation is trying to flip the payoff matrix so that looking the other way on scams becomes unprofitable. If that shift actually bites (recurring fines, ad bans, forced refunds) then you get a multiple de-rating, not because of the past 12–14B, but because the future monetization of the long tail of advertisers gets capped.

asdafari14

You know more than 99% of people and everyone that will ever be involved in this from the EU side.

KeithHelm

The EU wants their cut (or 8% tip?) of that infraction lol

Original_Two9716

Fuck EU. -- European

runmeupmate

the americans aren't going to allow the EU to punish and american company like that

Pic889

The weird thing about Turkey's current situation is that some Turks are visiting Greece to buy groceries: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-09/turks-drive-hours-to-buy-cheese-in-greece-and-escape-inflation This means groceries are more expensive in Turkey than Greece (despite Greece having rather high VAT taxes), despite Turkey's net minimum wage being the equivalent of 500 euros. I guess this is what "quantitative tightening" after a post-money-printing binge looks like, and the EU is going to get a taste of it in the coming years if they keep printing money to bailout countries like France (by buying French bonds) and spending on defense without trimming fat state pensions and the bloated welfare state (since those two were enabled by reduced defense spending post-1991, you can't have those and defense).

EducationCultural736

> Seems like a risk with taking. That's the point. EU is not trying to deter them with this fine, they're trying to take a cut of the profit. The last thing they want is for Meta to stop generating revenue from fraudulent ads.

EducationCultural736

It's really just a tax...EU wants a share of it.

Spins13

If in EU we put half as much effort in innovating than regulating, half our problems would be gone

resilient2

I have XAR, and bought EUAD and NATO to get some EU defense exposure. I like Rolls Royce too (RYCEY).