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mok000

The Eurozone or EU has zero say over what investors do with their US treasury bonds. Investors might sell off their Greece, Italy, France bonds too. Bottom line, however, is Trump is creating an atmosphere that US economy cannot be trusted, he wants control of the Federal Reserve and who knows, set interest to zero. On top of that Trump is significantly increasing the national debt. Those kinds of signals drive investors away and they are a herd that reacts to threats just like a herd of animals react when a lion appears. Governments don't control it.

mok000

The Eurozone or EU has zero say over what investors do with their US treasury bonds. Investors might sell off their Greece, Italy, France bonds too. Bottom line, however, is Trump is creating an atmosphere that US economy cannot be trusted, he wants control of the Federal Reserve and who knows, set interest to zero. Those kinds of signals drive investors away and they are a herd that reacts to threats just like a herd of gnus react when a lion appears. Governments don't control it.

road_laya

EU countries started issuing additional bonds last year to spend on military. Large amounts.

themaelstorm

EU should still do something. Dont let him getaway with this stupid boundary-testing, market-manipulating behaviour that allows him to still boast about his genius.

Ill-Mousse-3817

No, it didn't? Open google finance and check any two indexes priced in the same currency. The EU mopped the floor with the US market...

Bruteboris

You are right, it’s a fraction (0,1% of total foreign outstanding US bonds). The EU holds roughly 23% ($2,154T) of all US bonds as of now. Selling a great part of that, will have serious impact. US bonds dumped by EU holders so far: - ABP (Dutch Pension fund) $10B - Alecta (Swedish Pension fund) $8B - AkademikerPension (Danish Pension fund) $0,1B That is roughly 0,9% of the EU’s holdings, so a long way to go. Let see where this leads to

Sea-Environment-5938

Markets will probably treat this as headline volatility until something concrete shows up (actual policy, tariffs, capital controls, etc.). Retaliation talk moves futures for a day implementation moves portfolios for quarters. Curious what people are watching more here: USD strength, Treasury yields, or EU equities?

gianakis05

Its an IPO.. so cant really say reasonable target. But demand and sentiment is already established, as the increase 2% contribution were already agreed in EU..

corndog_messiah

You call the EU a Nation and you think I’m the one who needs something explained? What a jackass

IronSnatchKitty

Lol 🥭 about to have jam packed weekend 40 states about to get fucked by a winter storm and few dont have plows or salt. And their energy infrastructure isnt ment for this type of weather. He gonna spend his time saying climate change isnt real why Texas has ice and snow and blame sleepy Joe for it or the EU and tariff everyone

corndog_messiah

Almost civil war in Minnesota and you’re worried about the EU? 🤡

EyeSea7923

Calling EU self destructs like Fembots from too much 🥭 action.

Michael_Bhurewala

EU people unironically don't even want to go the US for immigration/work purposes, maybe for tourism... but even this has waned out lately

Enough-Meaning1514

EU has the bazooka, I wonder what the US would call it...

k0bra3eak

Combined EU holdings of US stocks would make a huge dent. Sweden is the first, but other countries are already debating similar actions within the EU. The more countries begin selling the easier it is for others to join in

Haplo_dk

Just to set the record straight on the Greenland stuff: Denmark and EU are not rushing to stop USA building up their defenses in Greenland - on the contrary we encourage that, and acording to the treaties and deals between Denmark and USA regarding Greenland, USA can send all the soldiers, defense systems and whatever else they like. They just can't take/buy Greenland. Greenland is part of the Danish Kingdom as long as Greenland wants to be, and according to a recent poll, about 9 out of 10 Greenlanders still wants to. Read about it here: https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/udland/her-er-detaljerne-i-forsvarsaftalen-mellem-groenland-danmark-og-usa-som-jd-vance-ikke?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true Read the 1951 treaty here: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/den001.asp#art2para3M

nazgut

EU politicans are already back to suck his dick [https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1qk2te6/eu\_plans\_to\_unfreeze\_trade\_deal\_with\_us\_and\_vote/](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1qk2te6/eu_plans_to_unfreeze_trade_deal_with_us_and_vote/)

X-FrEaK

I work remotely from the EU to the US. Believe me with 70k it's fucking hard to find competent developers. I think sometimes people forget why the EU and the US are such advanced economies (besides you know, colonisation and ongoing exploitation of poorer countries), our working ethics are way better than mostly everywhere else. Our company was built almost exclusively by South American developers, by the time the Europeans got hired they had no clue about working in AGILE. Planning things was non existent, it was a culture of winging it, and shitty code that, of course, we inherited and to this day, 4 years later, makes our life a living hell. You can hire a shit ton of developers from Latin America or other cheaper parts of the world, but your company will suffer one way or another. Don't even get me started on how AI empowered those kind of developers with higher levels of incompetence. And of course I'm not saying every developer from South American is bad or every European developer is good, but for every 10 good EU ones you have a good SA one

Segment_537

He can threaten the EU, yet any EU action against him would trigger consequences. How did a majority of Americans elect this person? It’s baffling that he remains in office, any rational country would have forced his resignation by now. I like this response Report an issue

xeemyy

All these Northern European pension funds dumping US bonds are regarded. No matter whether you like the US or not: you usually make the best gains with NA stonks. Who in their sane mind would ever invest in EU stocks. Company leaderships are crooks and EU leaders have neither the backbone nor the will to actually push an agenda. We Europoors only do symbolic politics. No balls. 🤌

GoodIdea321

This is the stocks subreddit, I don't think they'll have the most accurate takes on US/EU relations. And Americans, like me, have to search out for others opinions to get a sense of it. I doubt the betrayal is obvious enough yet for everyone here to see it. But you're making a sensible prediction, it might just be early.

IsakOyen

And I live there too. The European companies are very good in many fields like in aerospace, medicine, car manufacturing, industrial machines manufacturing, luxury goods and much more. It may not be talked about a lot but we are also very good in tech related things. Yes the EU is slow and needs some reforms but we are doing great, just don't be blind.

ColCrockett

EU gdp comparisons only include the current members so the Uk is left out

LowBornArcher

how much of the decline of relative GDP could be accounted for by brexit, or is the UK still included in the EU numbers?

Lavio00

I speak to US fixed income investors daily. No sane fixed income investor - anywhere on the curve - sees current paper priced attractively. That’s why they’re speaking to us folks in the EU. Alecta’s decision is purely one of fundamental analysis, not petty politics. Sell USA; their economy is fucked. 

kloden112

EU first babyyyy

ColCrockett

I’m sorry but Europe’s largest is literally a luxury designer goods company, that says everything about the state of the EU

CertainMiddle2382

Problem is, there isn’t much to invest in in Europe. Past the remilitarization trade, there is no significant tech ecosystem (millions of fake public grants startups though), SAP is the largest capitalization. EU tax environment is completely punishing and extremely unstable. Regulation is even worse and everything is completely fragmented and redtaped. Frankly, their only hope would be to create « free zones » and start from scratch…

40907

the EU is all bluster and talk, not much Union. Trump has united them more than ever recently because they realize now the actuality of having an unpredictable lunatic running the USA and the dire consequences of being complacent letting the US lead them geopolitically the past 100 years. They'll talk about uniting and making a more secure EU, EU military independent of US, but wont actually do it, and in a few years Trump will be gone but the reigns of power will be handed to someone more savvy and more subtle, someone who doesn't rock the natural order of the world, so the EU will go back to being complacent and following the US's lead again, but the US will not have stopped its conquest of untethered capitalist expanse. That will never stop unless it is forcibly stopped, and the EU wont be the one's to do that. They are part of it, their governments just havent been infiltrated and corrupted by capitalists yet like what's happened to the USA.

iced_maggot

Lmao wtf - do you realise that the EU could spend their investment dollars building up their own member states instead?

Highborn_Hellest

\>Europes greatest technological innovation this century has been bottle caps that stay attached to the bottle lol i thought was an American IP... lol. And yes, EU is becoming a shithole. Our dearest of dear leaders don't seem to realize, that we have very little natural resources, and those that we have aren't used.

ColCrockett

This plays well to certain crowds but I don’t think people realize just how much Europe is in economic decline relative to the U.S. and the rest of the world. European share of global GDP continues to fall while the U.S. remains stable. In 2008 the EU has a bigger economy than the U.S. and now its economy is only 2/3rds the size of the U.S. economy and shrinking.

Ol-Fart_1

Even if half the people in Europe sold all of their US stocks, it would hardly make a dent. The market is rising right now, and there are still billions parked in the bond market just waiting for the volatility to subside more. Those billions more than make up for the lost Europeans. And when the EU drop out, US dips, and that becomes a buying opportunity.

Ahzmer

Depends. In EU enph cant compete with price. And razor yhin margins and low demand would make me question any actual growth. Enph is good for b2c customers in US, elsewhere not as much. The micros cant compete or provide value in b2b scale or grid scale or datacenter installations, compared to string inverters. If US consumer demand is picking up, which would be because of a) strong consumer spending b) electricity prices go up, then this can be an actual, even sleeper play

40907

What could the EU realistically switch to? They're unfortunately inextricably tied to the US's economy for better or worse.

LastUltimateY0l0

The one thought that stopped me full porting and only having a mid-starter position With that said, the EU have labelled it a strategic project under their critical mineral strategy and there was interest from the US to buy it It’s a roulette spin but I think there’s hope

IndividualCall5116

Denmark too. EU and/or China next?

paragonx29

I do sometimes envision EU leaders huddling in a backroom and whispering: "Just hold tight, he'll be gone in 3 years or less."

-Crash_Override-

I'm debating in good faith here, I said elsewhere, I'm dual citizen, have lived all over EU, and I hate trump as the next person.... But for europe diversifying away from the US...how? The biggest hurdle to diversifying away from the US, is, interestingly enough, Europe itself: \> The [IMF estimates](https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2024/12/15/sp121624-europes-choice-policies-for-growth-and-resilience) that internal barriers to the Single Market are, on average, equivalent to a tariff of 44% for goods and a staggering 110% for services. These figures underline an ironic reality: while much of our focus is directed at the potential economic impact of external tariffs applied to goods traded with non-EU trading partners, we risk overlooking the far greater burden of self-imposed internal barriers. [https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/speeches/date/2025/html/ssm.sp250618\~d3e4495ae9.en.html](https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/speeches/date/2025/html/ssm.sp250618~d3e4495ae9.en.html) Not to mention things like...lack of scale, capital market fragmentation, inability to achieve any semblance of energy independence. So who would they diversify to? China? WIth the current trade imbalance? Europe is already flooded with cheap chinese goods, and china doesn't really need european products. On top of that, the russia problem. China basically props up Russia, and if you didnt know...Russia and Europe aren't on the best of terms right now. And thats just the economy.... Europe has no realistic path to diversify away from US, and they know that.

Real-Repair-1825

Reddit so badly wants Europe to magically dump all US treasury bonds. It’s never going to happen and this article is so insignificant. Btw, the EU just unfroze the trade deal with the US and plan on ratifying it. Seems like a weird thing to do if you are trying to economical cripple someone

Paul_Robert_

If you're residing in the EU, I don't think you can use it for stock trading, but I believe the crypto aspect is available there

Diddly_eyed_Dipshite

As one of those former allies I would think we would be relatively quick to forgive and move on, by relatively quick I mean 1-2 generations, not in our lifetime. Maybe we'll reopen diplomatic connections or maybe we'll have trade agreements or whatever, but the EU particularly will never again trust Americans like we foolishly used to. > I think even they understand this is a Trump vs allies issue, not the US vs allies. Honestly it's baffling how so many of you still see this as Trump problem, you don't see this as a symptomatic result of decades of internal destruction of the old US values, dismantling of societal security, and general greed, consumption, and anti-intellectualism. Even if the person after Trump isn't Vance, what's the best scenario, another Biden who refuses to do anything about past crimes, or another centrist-right dem who just wants to rebuild the country by reaching across the aisle. How can you think that the nations you stabbed in the back would just forgive and forget everything?

Therex26

I here by declare England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 cool again. Not part of the EU, they are not Europeans. They are britons. We love Britain. 🇬🇧

LouDubra

Trump came out today trying to warm them against the bond sales. If he did that to me I'd be selling them already. To be honest, we need the EU to teach the hooligans here in the US that he and his team are WAY out of their depth. Idealogues don't make good bureaucrats.

s33d5

I think it's still cheaper to buy from the USA than mining themselves. However, you are right that Trump could interfere. It is unlikely though because he is trying to reduce trade deficit (which is fucking stupid, but regardless). Trump wants more countries to buy US trade materials. Therefore his current stance is to promote things such as buying USA tungsten.  The EU also produces some Tungsten.  One that would be interesting is Canada. They have some of the largest deposits. However, it's a lot more expensive there I think because the areas are so remote. There are existing, but closed, tungsten mines in Canada.  If Canada is to be followed, it's likely there will be a EU and UK attempt at buying Tungsten from China. I say this as Canada has opened up automotive trade with China. 

-Crash_Override-

Ill level set. Im a dual citizen US/UK and lived all over europe. So my opinion is not simply through the American lense. Unfortunately your interpretation is flipped. EU doesnt want to get out of bed with the US...the US wants to get out of bed with EU. Europe is going to be crippled by climate migrants in the next 20 years, increasing pressure from the east. Energy scarcity. Etc..etc... US cant just walk away, that would be bad for everyone involved, but a multi decade decoupling is where we're headed. The relationship will likely never be adversarial, but nothing like we have today.

hv876

You watch some of the Davos speeches and you go “wow! These guys are talking tough”. Then you realize EU is a bunch of pussies and won’t do shit. TL;DR: chop continues for rest of the year.

Sandvicheater

Bessent calling out EU bluff about dumping US treasuries. I need you bondage expert bros to chime in. Is Bessent right? Like where would Euro Bond investors go for US treasury alternatives?

kaapooj

would wait until it is more concrete, but the savings and investments union is a EU reform goal from the Draghi report

kaapooj

I missed this from Macrons speech at Davos, this is bullisg for EU markets bearish for US assets: >We do have the savings as the Europeans, much more than the US, by the way. But this saving is overinvested in bonds and sometimes in equities – but outside Europe. So, this is why is the top priority should be securitization programme. It is prepared. We have to accelerate the implementation. And second, capital market union, precisely in order to have more integration and simplification. But to have an efficient capital market union in order to invest much more money, and use our savings to be invested on innovation and equity in Europe. This agenda, for me, is our top priority – both the global and the European one. And it is to be implemented in the months to come, because everything is about acceleration. And France is committed to deliver this agenda. We work very closely with our key partners and at the same time, our objective for France, is to stabilize our results and our macro approach and to remain the highly attractive country we are – we've been, the most attractive country of Europe during the past six years – and to consolidate our deep structural reforms and our key advantage. https://www.weforum.org/stories/2026/01/davos-2026-special-address-by-emmanuel-macron-president-of-france/

IsTom

You can alternate stores on android and it's not like they would just stop working immidiately just because google isn't accessible. AWS has servers in EU. Local branches would have to play ball or get nationalized quickly.

heytherepartner5050

Oh shit that means he isn’t protected against the damage that would do yet, so the EU & Japan should start dumping tomorrow to collapse him.

The_Insider_Edge

i think they will have a rapid growth this year with 8 countries of export and new EU-GMP facility in Portugal

ShittyUsernane1222

Im going to rev up the rumor mill a little. The EU Trade Bazooka just fired.

Zeppu

You know EU strategy is just to drag out negotiations until 🥭 term is over, right? 😂

Tiny_Dare_5300

I'm pretty sure if the EU, Mexico, and Canada all stopped trading with us, we'd feel the pain fairly fast. The stock market would likely plummet over night and there is nothing he can do about it. That's roughly $3 trillion in trade, about 1/10 of our GDP.

tachyonvelocity

Agreed on BESS, but why LNG? They are actually opposite theses. LNG is naturally much more expensive than local pipeline prod, 3 times as expensive. Natural gas is thought to be a "bridge fuel" for inconsistent solar and wind. BESS makes S+W more consistent, so that challenges the need for natural gas. The LCOE for S+W is lower ex-US because there are either subsidies or freer trade with China, but even in the US, S/W LCOE is lower than natural gas where piped is 3 times cheaper. European natural gas consumption for example has decline for 3 years, so EU is not a LNG growth story.

Professional_Buy_655

This is a brilliant analysis of the sentiment, but I think the economic outcome might be darker. The US knows 'soft power' and trust are dead, so they are pivoting to direct economic coercion. Instead of letting allies 'diversify away', Washington is actively forcing a hostile takeover of their supply chains (forcing EU industry to move to the US). It looks less like a breakup and more like an asset stripping of the Western alliance to save the core.

Nebty

Well Trump has been giving the EU an amazing incentive to figure out an alternative. And once those agreements are signed, there isn’t a lot US companies can do to disrupt that progress.

cosmopoof

Never mentioned 100% EU. I just divested from the US and overweighted Europe and Commodities. I left EM and other sectors as they were. And if it's stupid or not is my problem, not yours, luckily. Personally, I just use the approach to never put money into autocratic regimes like North Korea, Russia or the USA.

elkunas

The EU/UK have tariffs on America, dozens of them. Every country has tariffs on every country. And Trump is treating this like business, its stupid but thats what it is. Investors will forget in 5 years and everything will be the same as it was.

IsTom

If reddit was to be banned in Europe overnight, how hard would EU economy be hit? I don't think a lot of people would be losing sleep over that.

Lazerys

I don't think any EU/UK governments have imposed tariffs on their allies and threatened to invade them for "national security". Internal politics shouldn't be confused for international ones either. The human thing with trust is that once it is lost, it is hard to get back. The reputation of America is unquestionably taking a heavy toll under this administration.

I_am_Regarded

EU is well aware how this works. Why do you think we are so annoyed? We are not turning our backs on allies and if you think eu needs US well, fafo.

GearSalty2775

That’s just stupid. I understand diversifying and I’ve done it myself. But moving 100% to EU is just stupid. 

MAGATEDWARD

Stop reading into liberal talking points. They completely ignore the reality of actually delivering on those promises. How much would it take to really build up an army? An Amazon/Google? How long? People that think this way somehow magically think these things can appear out of thin air. These countries got caught with their pants on the ground by not paying up to NATO and killing energy production, are big mad America/Trump didn't follow them into self destruction. If people were told the truth that it will take trillions of investment causing massive inflation/deficits, reversing on their precious environmental/labor standards, upwards of 10 years time, and the products will still likely not be competitive with the US... You think they'd sign up for that? America has all the leverage in the world on EU, and no agreement with China (or Russia LOL) can get them out of it. Is China just going to hand Europe sweetheart deals when they have problems of their own? How'd Russia/China tech do in Venezuela?

fruitloop00001

There isn't an alternative for a lot of those things. More likely, the EU will require those us based hyperscalers to localize control and physical location of the infrastructure being used to provide services in the EU. That's business being done within the EU, but showing up in the earnings of a company traded on the US market. Of course, this depends on the degree of decoupling. If companies need to sell off EU subsidiaries a la TikTok then that changes things.

Deep_Environment7333

Effects are going to be: 1) Rearmament of Europe so they stop getting pushed around (buy EU defense stocks) and 2) CRML (controls Tanbreez mine in Greenland), UUUU (only company in North America capable of processing the materials from Tanbreez) and BWXT (small nuclear reactors that will be used in Greenland since there’s zero energy infrastructure there) printing $ mining rare earth materials

elkunas

I guess i just have super curated friends then, because anytime I talk to my EU/UK friends, their opinion of the US hasnt changed. They literally do not care about Trumps shit because they have their own governments doing their own stupid shit.

Amphibious333

The US shouldn't care about the EU at all. Let's keep it real. The EU has no leverage at all, and in geopolitics, there is no such a thing is morality, good and wrong. Geopolitics is about resources. If a country is militarily capable of taking over a specific territory, it will do it either by force or negotiations (direct threats or threats in the form of democracy fairy tales, such as NATO bases and Russian dangers). Don't mention the EU holds US bonds, because that's not a leverage. Not a long time ago, Trump implemented tariffs and a trade deal that harms the EU, and demanded around 1 trillion dollars as a gift from the EU. An actor called "Ursula" claimed she will teach Trump a lession. In the end of the day, the EU totally backed off and the US got everything they wanted. The EU is a bankrupt, sham "union" that exists ONLY because the US and China exist, as well as the declining population exists and is being taxed. If the tax base and the life support (the US and China) disappear, the EU disappears immediately. The EU doesn't have any manufacturing and military capabilities. It exists only because the middle class is robbed and there are lawsuits against American billionaires the EU takes money from to fund sham social and climate programs and sham NGOs and organizations that serve no other purpose rather than money laundering through fake "Africa philanthropy" NGOs owned by EU oligarchs. The EU was a power before the 2008 crisis. After 2008, the EU is irrelevant. Any "the EU will retaliate and do this and that" talking point is nothing but either propaganda or someone misunderstanding the geopolitical realities. No, I'm not a "Putinbot". I'm actually in the EU, in a rapidly declining fake country, a vassal and client state, Bulgaria; I'm telling you, if someone decides to do something either against that country or the EU in general, neither that country or the EU will do anything. The leadership will basically pack up and leave. They will go to another country and record videos in which they say they support us and we will watch the videos on the TV. That's it. The only thing the EU can do is to talk fairy tales about democracy, dismiss opposition as dictatorship, condemn anything it doesn't like, impose sanctions and talk about "unconditional support", but it ends there. The EU doesn't even have a properly functioning stock market.

reelcon

If the message is pitched as diversification across world markets and noble metals as hedge, it would make more sense. EU market is bit conservative compared to Asia and US is what I sense to get better returns but open to learn from others if they have a different opinion.

Acceptable-One-6597

What's the retaliation dumbass. Tariffs which is more taxes on the US consumer? Guys a moron. The EU should dump a flat 10% just to fire a shot across the bow. I'm so tired of this dudes shit, the market doesn't like unpredictability and that's all we have now.

DOOGIEOHIO

Was all a stunt to get defensive military protection and assistance from other countries to defend Greenland . Russia and China are sniffing a little to close other. I don’t disagree other countries should pull some weight and not count on USA to police all interest of America and EU

First-Finger4664

I have little doubt that we will see relative outperformance of international vs US equities compared to their historic relationship. But if the US becomes even more aggressive and erratic, this adds an additional risk consideration for the US investors: If you hold assets overseas, might they be frozen by the EU, or another coalition, as part of a move to sanction US aggression? This is a particular consideration for those holding gold in ETF form, as those vaults are physically located in London, Zurich, Toronto, etc. I know this sounds paranoid, and the risk at present is small, but this was in fact the fate of Russian international investors in 2022.

mooreboy76

If the EU is the first to get out, it leaves China and Japan holding worthless notes.

ShittyUsernane1222

Palantir: recently gets strong fundamentals Meanwhile EU divesting from US: hmmmmmm, GDPR hammer or Tax hammer or both

KalLindley

Agree 100%. I’m slowly moving out of US equities and have been doing so for a year. Gold, Silver, Latin America, the EU, and Canada. Also been investing in other currencies.

AEStation404

Don't underestimate them. Australia has 0% WHT on dividends. AU (+ NZ) are a hedge against instability in EU and not perfectly correlated. Spain can post 60% gains while AU hasn't moved much, but both grow long-term. South America has lower valuations and is a hedge against a wider war. You shouldn't just invest there, frankly you should get at least one residence permit if you can. And with the new "Donroe" Doctrine, I don't think the US is going to allow these countries to fall into chaos. If they wipe out the cartels, those markets can only go up. Africa won't always be underdeveloped and has a growing population, unlike many places. If demographic decline starts to affect western company profits and real estate, it won't affect Africa. If you can avoid most value-traps and screen for sanctions, the valuations are some of the cheapest in the world. But you're not gonna get that exposure with one ETF, you have to have several and in some cases build your own "ETF" with algorithms and factor investing.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

Wen EU and America Decoupling?

upwy

mango vs bankers is a bigger boss battle than mango vs. EU

ShittyUsernane1222

🥭-EU-NATO talks summarized: 🥭: Me want greenland EU: DONT 🥭: Ma BB gun doesn't negotiate with libs EU: Neither does my portfolio divesting 🥭: \*chickens out\*

dontslambro

EU Parl’t President Metsola: Preliminary US Trade Deal Vote Expected In Coming Days

ShittyUsernane1222

\> 🥭 warns of major retaliation if the EU dumps its US financial assets \> TACOd on greenland yesteday the threats which he makes has less weight than a feather lmao.

Ivarorc

They got published positive results and have EU regulatory stuff coming up

kaapooj

US-EU relations not the same as 1y ago Europe is not willing to junk 80y of goos relations --kalas, vice pres of EU comission

kaapooj

kaja kallas (EU comission vice president) talking rn nothing new yet

Dapper_Addition_3837

You really don't need to give us a big speech on your TDS thing. We are not your therapist. The EU is well known to be horrendous on growth. EU GDP growth for 2025 was around 1.2%-1.4% compared to 4.4% for the US. Unless you have issue with money. No reason to move on EU unless ofc you have TDS but thats a diff story..

Rando1ph

I mean, I wouldn't. But with the S&P 500 near all time highs, if you're going to do it now is not a bad time to sell. Will European companies fair better than US? I mean some will but I'd bet the US would still get better returns overall for the foreseeable future. That being said, going all in on the EU isn't the worst strategy either. However if you are looking for stability you all are WAY more unstable than the US. You have an actual ground war on your continent...

welpWW3isgonnasuck

EU leaders handed him the 1951 treaty but they had to show it to him in crayon and read it in 20 second increments to let him know that the US can already do all of this.

Itallianstallians

Both. GOP senators were adamant that the Greenland stuff was a red line. EU and NATO rallied to show they won't be bullied by him. He was on a power trip, especially after Venezuela and he wanted to push that power around because he has deep insecurities because he fucks little boys and girls.

Old_Pitch4134

If you think all EU leaders aren’t discussing how quickly this can happen right now then you’re not paying attention. We’ll keep playing nice with the big baby as long as possible so he doesn’t throw a bitch fit before we’re ready, and begin building contingency plans and systems of our own as quietly and quickly as possible in the background.

harrison_wintergreen

> apan? EU countries? > > Yes? I would have more confidence in both of those over US bonds. Why? as of last year Germany was the only G7 nation with debt to GDP under 100%.

liquidsprout

EU pre-war Russian gas consumption was 45%, now it's 12%. Oil went from 29% to 1. Some of it might be rerouted through other countries, but there's at least a price cap and I think EU voted that the origin has to be verified. And of that a big chunk is Hungary and Slovakia, on both counts. Orban is Russia sympathetic. This was and is a very big deal to the German economy which ran on cheap Russian energy. The reduced trade is also hurting countries such as Finland, which is currently stagnating, despite the current goverment's attempts to recucitate it.

jeffynihao

Xiaomi smart car hitting EU market in 2027. Goodbyeeeee TSLA

Remarkable-Action708

Not a single EU leader has corroborated TACO’s details on Greenland deal, as usual he is trying to get what he wants by open media statements like infinite duration, mineral rights etc. just wait for someone to say, we did not agree to all that…back to using brute force!

SarcasticTrumpet

Fake outs with Greenland and vague threats on both sides for retaliation with trade deals in EU is making this highly retarded...I think ill full port

whicky1978

The US makes up like 60% of the world‘s economy. What is the EU like 10 countries or something in the US is 50 states so that’s like 5 to 1 easily

99posse

Another nothing burger to save his face. The US had 17 bases in Greenland and shut all of them down except for one. There are multiple NATO bases in each EU country and no controversy. The mining part is new (to my knowledge) but he could have just asked, i don't think there is any opposition in letting another country invest, do the work, and get the benefits

AnswerLongjumping965

Couldn’t the USA already do that? Did the EU just trick him into tacoing or did he just fold due to lack of support?

ValueOfADollar

wouldn't it be the US if it's at market open? EU poors propped it up pre