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LordFedorington

Ok, how is Greenland part of any other EU country than Denmark? Zero correlation

BitterAd6419

lol EU is in no position to put sanctions on US. Europeans think too much about themselves, they need NATO more than US needs. If US withdraws from NATO, it’s gg EU. All these countries trying to show strength now will fold like handkerchief if US tried to take Greenland by force All paper generals in EU

Clear_Anything1232

All of EU governments and bureaucracy is switching to no MSFT solutions. Same with many Asian countries. Social media ban for teens is getting cloned across world At some point these have to reflect in the earnings. META is a lot cheaper and attractive though.

sshah528

The US Dollar shitting the bed won't be the biggest problem faced. I saw a video showing all the natural resources Greenland. Trump wants that. Rather the companies pad his pocket want the resources. He's using America as a tool to pad his pocket. Venezula was a warning shot to the world. Give me what I want or I'll send my military after you. The problem with Greenland is NATO is slightly stronger than Venezula. The U.S. has military bases in the EU. He goes after Greenland, it's not going to be an easy take over like Iraq or Venezula. Further, Russia is strapped. How will Putin help? China will see it as an opportunity to take over Taiwan. Saudis will see how quickly he turned on "Allies" - they'll reneg on any deal and join the forces fighting the U.S. It's going to be everyone vs the U.S. Trump being Trump, might even launch nuclear weapons. As an added bonus, Trump has gone after anyone in the military he deems a threat to him, so the military is getting weaker. I think there are going to be more severe concerns than the dollar's worth.

gore_nis

Their drug got approved in Saudia Arabia and potentially in the EU end of February.

hyper24x7

Put it this way if Trump goes for it, then tell all the EU leaders to sell their US Treasury bonds as well as have Canada do the same. The deficit will rocket up I think 38 Trillion. Halt all exports to the US because it will be considered a hostile country. The dollar will collapse overnight and soldiers much less anyone else except billionaires will have no food, no jobs and they will instead turn to a coup or a semi peaceful removal of the president.

Dizzy_Efficiency_947

Patrick Soon the CEO of the company said earlier today that he's going to present proof tomorrow that his drug is effective again lymphoma. No chemo, no radiation, no side effects, just 8 shots spread over a number of weeks. Patients in test are still cancer free after 15 months. He's also said today his drug appears to work on lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, brain cancer, and head and neck cancer. His drug already has been shown to work on bladder cancer and was just approved for it in the EU. Saudi Arabia just made an agreed with the company to use it drug for lung cancer.

Re_Cy_Cling

I also just bought some but at $89. My plan is to hold. There's a couple of things that I see working for them. One, the US antitrust rules are not as strict as EUs. It's likely they will approve it with some conditions. The EU will only approve with conditions and they might be sever (like leasing lots of content back to other streamers or cable). But either way I see both governments approving this. Second, Netflix is mulling an all-cash deal. The articles don't state clearly what it means, but assuming this means cash and not shares (so no dilution), but of course their loans will have massive interest re-payments. They're also doing this to get WB board to vote sooner (Spring 2026). What I see happening is that the price will trade back up as people wait the typical 12-18 months on the rulings and closing of the deal. I'm expecting around $110-115. That would be my exit point. This is my opinion. Do your own reseach.

hollow_bridge

> I’m involved in the EU regulation proposals Very cool! That sounds like a fun job. So I've got a story for you then relevant to regulation. My ex had started a normal business, and was using facebook advertising; things were going decently and she got a lot of customers from fb. But then there was some kind of hacking attempt, we aren't clear how it happened, facebook's response to the hacking attempt was to immediately delete her account. There was no appeal process, no ability to communicate with anyone; there were a couple hidden places to give reports but she never got any response. This destroyed her business unfortunately. I did a fair amount of research on this; meta's default is absolutely no customer service/contact (for regular members, or even business customers); they will only have the legally required minimum. moral of my story, there's needs to be human (not ai) customer service (who do not just read from a script) and have some ability to make changes in the system. similarly the scam adverts and csam that people report, nothing happens with it. I would suggest that this could be solved by a regulation that all facebook reports of any type must be analyzed by a local national direct meta employee for no less than 1 minute within a 24 hour period or incur a fee of $10 for every report that is not addressed in that time frame.

Z28Daytona

How fast do you think the EU will change their mind about going against the USA when they see that Russia has taken over Poland and is continuing westward? The market will take a temporary hit and then return shortly afterwards.

polygraph-net

I’m involved in the EU regulation proposals and so far they’re fairly weak / naive. I’m pushing to make them more thorough and real-world.

hollow_bridge

I don't know either, I was pretty surprised by that, I guess they're only familiar with it as a stock and not familiar with the industry thinking it's not a real issue. Completely agree, I also suspect we're gonna gradually see more regulation from the EU and EU countries over the next couple years. Hard to say if it will be significant or not.

urania_argus

Enshittification is the norm across the board, that's what OP is referring to. Examples: The first social media that made it big, **Facebook**, was a great place in the beginning. Its purpose was for friends and families to keep in touch and the design focused on that. Then the ads came, initially in a sidebar, static, easy to filter or ignore. And it was a constant slide to the bottom afterwards, until today, when everyone's feed is mostly stuff they don't want to see - AI slop, disinformation, deep fakes, ads - drowning out real posts from real people in one's contact list. Countless **apps and websites** initially provide a great product, while they are debugging and need users' input and bug reports to polish the product. Then the paywall goes up, features are removed from free plans, and the same users who helped make the product better aren't even grandfathered in, their access is restricted too unless they pay. **Monsanto** is notorious for engineering **crops** that don't produce viable seeds after the first generation so that farmers are forced to buy seeds from them over and over. The crops have other engineered advantages over heirloom varieties, like resistance to pests or drought, but it is absolutely possible and even easier to have those features *and* produce seeds normally. Monsanto specifically went out of its way additionally to prevent their normal reproduction. **Apple** at one point got sued for deliberately slowing down older iPhones via updates in order to make using them so annoying that people would buy new ones. **Microsoft** Office used to be a product you could buy once and then use indefinitely, even if you don't update. Now you simply can't use it unless you pay a subscription indefinitely, paying as much or more *per year* as the one-time price for the same product used to be. Countless products have converted to this business model, which amounts to extortion for their long-term customers who can't easily migrate to something else (or there's simply nothing equivalent to migrate to that doesn't force you into a forever subscription). Hardware that used to be easy and *possible* to repair is now extremely difficult or impossible. **Appliances** that used to be manufactured to such sturdy specifications that they lasted decades now last a few years at best (small kitchen and household electrical stuff like toasters, vacuums, etc). **The EU** has specifically passed laws requiring "right to repair", because planned obsolescence plus deliberate difficulty of repair has been rampant for years and has resulted in unmanageable quantities of electronic waste. And it goes on and on.

whomstboi

💀buddy Ive lived in mainland China, I can assure you reunification and pushing US presence off the island is TOP party priority. It is literally repeated many times each year by the party. Saying China doesn’t care about unification is like saying US doesn’t care for oil US military is the only reason China has not taken the island back And Suffer world wide sanction from who exactly? US and maybe EU? China is currently the top trading partners for over half of the world and the global south does not care for Taiwan.

NotHachi

Seeing some of the americans reply here, I lowkey want the us invade greenland.... Just fcking do it. Im tired of the insult on europoors and the incompetence on the EU side... Just invade it. The EU will either prevail and federalize or just fade into obscurity... Either way works for me ....

Gaspajo

Well done. Are Greenlanders EU citizens?

CarcossaYellowKing

I mean the issue is we haven’t because retards still think this is Trump playing 4D chess and trying to get Europe to spend more on NATO when it’s clearly him trying to steal minerals and cancel the midterms with martial law. Also distract from the Epstein files. Ppl think this is a nothing burger and everything is a joke nowadays thanks to social media, but after the meeting between Rubio, Vance, and the EU representatives I’m fairly sure these retards are going to attack Europe.

W_Malinowski

The fines they’re paying to the EU

Rotttenboyfriend

What if EU decided behind back doors to let US take Greenland, unofficially, in order not to screw businesses with US?

Doc_Bader

>Okay sure. You somehow replace all the natural gas and oil you are importing from the United States. US oil makes up 14% of imports to the EU, which is like the same amount we get from Kazakhstan. Also, there's no lack of oil rich countries who would love to sell their stuff to the EU. Natural gas same story. If they got rid of most of Russias gas, which made up like 50% of imports back then, they can do the same with the US who hovers around 18% - 24%. >Your livestock still starve to death as you don't domestically produce enough grain to feed them all. You dramatically underestimate how much grain the United States exports. Yeah, only one problem: Grain imports from the US are negligible. [https://circabc.europa.eu/rest/download/2bfc7190-efee-44e7-9809-87d5ff18729a?ticket=](https://circabc.europa.eu/rest/download/2bfc7190-efee-44e7-9809-87d5ff18729a?ticket=) (Page 4) Wheat is 4%, Durum Wheat is 14%, Oats there isn't even a percentage, Maize is 33%.

Soda-pop

The US economy will take a massive hit, trade with the EU will most definitely cease (as will any chance of the US making semi conductors, as almost all the mirrors to make them are made in germany). Canada and Australia/new zealand will most likely sanction us, causing more damage. China is a wild card, but if they can help the US fall, they will join crying about how the US doesn't respect other countries' sovereignty and the same shit we've been throwing at them. If we invade Greenland, the American economy will be ruins, as will our position on the world stage, no one will trust us. Other countries will take a hit, but they will keep on going and form new alliances.

16semesters

> that’s kidnapping foreign heads of state No functional countries recognize Maduro as a head of state. Candada, EU, etc. all do not recognize Maduro as a head of state. Weird you're taking the side of Russian/China/Iran in all of this. Did you genuinely not know this, or are you tankie hyping up your boy Putin?

theNotoriousJEU

Look at UK/EU markets last 12 months

TheSleepyTruth

And EU likely banning American big tech like amazon, Google, Tesla, Facebook etc. Markets would explode.

NotMe357

There is another meeting between Greenland/Denmark and USA tomorrow. I honestly dont think TACO will invade Greenland just yet. If he wants to invade Greenland then he needs to wait until midterm is over, so probably first in 2027. He cant fight NATO/EU and at the same time keep an eyes on China while he needs more vot e to win midterm. This about Greenland is more like "test the water" before the real thing. But there is still a chance for bomb Iran this weekend lol

highlander145

EU will sell US Treasury bonds..they don't need to do anything else.

Working_Tourist_4964

Uber has the infrastructure..for now. In EU Uber is partnering with EV manufacturers, giving them access to the platform. In London Waymo is using a UK start-up for now, maybe later they will swap to Uber also in EU,who knows.. At the end of the day is a platform with 150million users worldwide. This to say that it'll depend how the AV expansion is Europe will play out for the companies involved, IMHO.

Bradybigboss

Yeah but if we really in this scenario went to war with the EU, funding us would just not be an option

OrangMiskin

Big dick EU super soldiers finna fuck up the smoll dick Ameripoors GI Joes in Greenland. Heard the Danes tamed Trolls as soldiers, I’ve seen the movie Troll.

Funny-Priority3647

Wrong, Greenland is not a member of the EU, but has a special fisheries agreement and was accepted as one of the overseas countries and territories with special association with the EU. https://www.norden.org/en/information/facts-about-greenland Can you use search??

imrickjamesbioch

Actually China economy is based on trade and commerce vs the US broke ass is propped up by military speaking. It’s way S Korea, Japan , and the EU have reengaged new diplomacy talks cuz the US is filled with a bunch of assholes that nobody liked as a kid so they’re overcompensating now as shitty adults. Then there are assholes who will shout human rights in China but ignore the fact that the US government is disappearing people by the thousands and executing soccer moms in the middle of the street.

Jason__Hardon

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adepttius

I hope you Americans are keeping a good track of all these "haha master said something so let me be a good dog and chuckle" for... you know... later. When the correct time comes it would be good to have that list. He is doing literally everything to drive a wedge between USA and EU, as per instructions.

MakeOSUGreatAgain63

If we invade Greenland… And EU dumps our bonds… Would holding SPY shares save you from the 1,000,000%+ instant inflation melt down? 🤔

No_Tadpole5551

I want to start investing. I’m 20 years old, originally from South America but currently living in Germany. I’m already earning some money and want to begin investing. My first idea is to invest in a safe ETF to build the habit of investing, contributing around €100–€200 per month. However, I’m not sure how to get started, especially regarding brokers. Since I’m living in the EU right now, I’ve seen brokers like eToro and others, but I’m worried about what will happen when I move back to South America in about 7–8 months. Some brokers are only available in the EU, so I’m not sure what to do in that case. I’ve heard of Interactive Brokers and some other platforms, but I don’t really have much experience. Do you have any recommendations?

Mr_Adoulin

EU is not a military Union but an economic one. Expect an economic retaliation. At the worste a mass selloff of US Bonds to crash the dollar and stock market to take the pain to everyone bavk in the US. An economic nuke so to say

Zealousideal_Cat3581

If this happens, what would be the best approach? I mean, would the EU tank? Would the Yuan grow? If I want to invest, would it be wise to pick american EFTs? Or should I buy some Yuan? What would be the global paradigma in this?

Menior

Europe has less GDP than the USA but a bigger industry. Its political systems are mostly good, I mean France has had a terrible streak but Germany is doing great. I think on average it's doing much better politically than the USA which is on the brink of losing its democracy. Migrants are barely a crisis, and we're getting a new migration pact in June. Brexit has been a huge loss, especially for the UK themselves, but we're a few years later and on an economic level the damage hasn't been too bad. Expect of course for the Brits, while they were a net contributor even. Imagine how stupid a country can be to vote for a populist that has no idea what the outcome of their idea is. The biggest crisis right now is Russia invading Ukraine while all EU countries are just holding their dick because we don't have a united military. Though our domestic defense industry is growing rapidly at the moment, because Trump is acting like an enemy and we're probably gonna have to fight Russians in the Baltics.

imbakinacake

Lol EU didn't do shit with Russia literally eating parts of Europe. What exactly are they gonna do? Reject America and....?

RainbowCrown71

No, productivity and innovation across the board has been twice the EU average. You’re thinking stock market. AI wasn’t even a major sector until 2022/2023. That doesn’t explain why the US added $10 trillion more to its GDP, largely from 2010-2020.

RainbowCrown71

Absolutely untrue. EU treasuries are $1.5 trillion, or 3% of US debt. Fed could easily buy that amount out and did so at 3x volumes during COVID-19.

Excellent_Jeweler_43

It will be the US dollar that will absolutely shit the bed. The EU and the ECB hold ginormous amounts of US bonds, if they just dump them on the open market it is actually very possible the US goes into hyperinflation overnight as other countries will also start dumping US dollars and without millitary bases in Europe the US loses direct access to the Middle East and by that extent control over the petrodollar. TLDR: Attacking Greenland might be the dumbest thing in US history by a long shot, hopefully there is atleast someone with common sense there to see where this will all lead

kcbluedog

History, brexit, migrant crisis, laughable political stability in major EU countries

Normal-Ear-5757

Exactly, it would be the end of free market capitalism as we know it - we'd be back in the world of the 1950s complete with currency controls, comprehensive tarrifs, probably some sort of gold standard, high marginal tax rates, and obviously NO globalization.  We've already got the tarrifs. If the Americans want to go for it they will likely end up like the old Soviet Union - a declining empire at the end of its rope, increasingly sclerotic, dysfunctional, unable to feed it's own people and impossible to reform without breaking the whole thing. Geopolitically the US would obviously be allied with Russia and Europe would likely end up partnering with China and India, tradewise. We (Europeans) would find ourselves on a war footing. The UK would likely find themselves adopting the Euro and EU membership on an emergency basis - we simply can't feed ourselves otherwise (the UK imports half it's food). We also may well end up interning subversives like Nigel Farage, but also figures on the Left like Jeremy Corbyn and George Galloway for their repeated involvement with Russian and Iranian propaganda (all three of them have appeared on Russian and / or Iranian TV). It would be a very very harsh world as the entire continent of Europe finds itself squashed between two superpowers. A world of loyalty tests, paranoia, and stagnation. Just not a road anyone wants to go down.

Overton_Glazier

>NATO is the only thing holding back Russia from taking Europe That's not true either. The EU has a defensive military alliance built into it. Attack an EU member and you are at war with the EU. >Russia will be absolutely salivating at the idea of the US blowing up NATO. It'd be #1 right at the top of the FSB's bucket list. The opportunity cost of potentially missing out on arctic melt waterways would be absolutely worth it to them. Ah yes, now remind me how quickly they steamrolled Ukraine... Sorry but none of this is grounded in reality. >Somewhere they're sitting around a table laughing at how much Trump is playing into their hands and how easy he was to play. He may not _know_ he's a Russian asset but they obviously consider him one. Again, no one has benefited more from Trump's actions than Israel has. But sure, let's pretend Trump is Putin's asset while Trump continues to do things that weaken Russia as well. All because you think Russia will somehow magically steamroll Europe even though they are still dealing with Ukraine 3 years after invading.

thctetro

See, I am not even trying to understand what you mean by that. Delusion, absolute delusion. Taking about control, your country (read people) have NON of it! Do you know why USA is pissed on EU? Because corporations mean 0 here. You can't buy it here, you just can't. This is why Elon, Zucerberg and Trump himself trash EU every single day, because here people matter, not your corporations. On the other hand, your people can't walk outside 😂 There are military men hunting them being native or not. Come on 🥱

Careful_Square1742

i truly believe Trump and the GOPs billionaire donors are the reason why military action in Greenland won't actually happen. They stand to lose enormous sums of money if we end up in economic and armed conflict with out closest allies. EU countries will go scorched earth since their economic might is stronger than their military - they'll ban Facebook/Insta, ban Tesla vehicles and battery systems, stop buying US made products from every sector, sanction personal wealth of high-profile republicans in addition to seizing US bases and capturing US troops currently on the continent. As with most things Trump related, his advisors are moronic children and don't see the whole field of consequences of their actions. And for what? We already can put as much hardware and troops on Greenland as we want under existing treaties. The natural resources are under a mile or more of glacial ice that shifts constantly - they are inaccessible. Its very likely bluster from an abysmally stupid administration

seab1010

Nah. But it might force the EU the grow a pair. NATO as it currently exists will be finished.

rmdiamond331

Imagine thinking that the EU has ANY power anymore… they’ve literally allowed the invasion of their continent, they have no military might, no manufacturing base, and no support from their populations since they steal elections and then appoint unelected people to run the EU and ECB

thctetro

Don't ever come to EU. Thank you. You seem pretty delusional and insane.

thctetro

EU makes Anti America propaganda? You Are Insane. So its not Trump, its not America, its EU? YOU ARE INSANE.

ASafeHarbor1

The country is certainly not even close to ruined. The EU's obsessed with America and creates and reads so much anti-American propaganda. Meanwhile, almost everyone in the US, except maybe the FAR left (i.e. Redditors) thinks that the EU is a complete joke. We don't obsess over the EU because the amount it actually matters on the world stage is little.

ASafeHarbor1

Actually you are the one that is dreaming. Also not a Trump fan, but the EU (in totality) is weak compared to the US. The person that posted this thread is dreaming too. It seems like everyone this day just makes up a bunch of bs that the US is weak because that's what they want to tell themselves.

Various_Match_187

That's what I actually think. No sarcasm. The EU will roll over like the good little bitch they are, and nothing is going to happen.

John_OSheas_Willy

The US already has bases on Greenland. The US just have to bring in men and the EU would have to take the first shot, which they won't do.

Nidalee2DiaOrAfk

Thats just straight cope. he is actively trying to wage war on EU and any country not named russia, and has blown up the debt(said he'd decrease it), and is now trying to get a 1.5 trillion military(that wont see use). He is a clueless idiot and he is involved.

Radicularia

If a military intervention happens as a minimum both the US and EU economies are gonna be fucked. Supply lines are completely intertwined and Europe is going to dump all their US treasuries. Lots of hardships on both sides of the Atlantic. It makes little sense to discus who would be worse off.

2poor2die

Partially runs through the US, but the decisions are taken in NL, Europe. So no, EU will hit US pretty bad.

Albertpm95

Infinite growth doesn't exist. Microsoft implementation of AI is bad, Google seems to do it better. The EU is abandoning Microsoft's software. Every time Satya speaks, the price of bread goes up.

Legal_Mastodon_5683

Not to mention the EU would dump US debt.

Icemazter

It’s the territory of an EU country and NATO member though.

1eejit

European countries have sent many weapons to Ukraine too. But Ukraine is the EU's neighbour. Greenland is territory belonging to a EU member with EU soldiers now stationed there.

John_OSheas_Willy

The EU 'backed' Ukraine too. 4 years later they're still doing fuck all apart from sending Ukraine money.

John_OSheas_Willy

Americans think the EU are some real tough bloc when in reality, they are absolute walkovers. I'm Irish by the way. The EU are afraid to make any strong moves. Take for example Ukraine. Pussyfooting around taking Russias assets and using them to fund Ukraine. If the US invaded Greenland, very little would be done in reality. It's a land with 57,000 people. The EU economy would crash as the EU can't afford a tit for tat. The EU need the US more than the US needs the EU. 33% of all Irish tax taken in is from corporation tax, largely US multinationals.

milensas

For sure it won't look good but I don't think the market will be badly affected given that the US already has a military presence in Greenland already. EU is trapped so no retaliation expected from them imo. I don't know how dependent is the world economy over greenland ...

Brokenandburnt

Europe hasn't been about power projection since WW2, for a very good reason. We fought, killed and merrily slaughtered each other for over a millennia, after WW2 we decided enough. I do hope you realize that the US is _not_ the world leader in drone warfare? Ukraine is, and Ukraine are working closely with Europe's MIC to develop and improve next generations drones. It always cracks me up when an American insists that the US is technologically superior to Europe.\ Newsflash US and EU run joint RnD, even the vaunted F-35 has input from several European countries. We have better artillery, the French Caesar and Swedish archer are world leading.\ We have better tanks. The German Leopard, Swedish Str-122 British Challenger all have better survivability. IFV's the CV-90 is modular, stealthier and has better survivability than the Bradley.\ Our hunter subs are quieter. They aren't nuclear because they aren't built for power projection. This makes them very silent, a nuclear reactor is loud. French, Dutch and Swedish subs all have penetrated carrier screens and repeatedly scored hits without ever being detected.\ We have our own satellite network which is rapidly expanding right now. The US has no shipbuilding capacity. Currently exactly 2 docks exists that can build/service carriers, and they are always occupied. The US has 11 carriers, but never have more than 6 at a time at sea.\ There's also no civilian shipbuilding to convert into military in wartime. The Jones act killed US shipbuilding industry. The reason Europe had a small military even before all the budget cuts was by design. The US was and wanted to be dominant, and Europe had repeatedly proven how unreliable they were with a big military. Welp, that cats out of the bag now, and Europe is once again re-arming. Let's just hope that revolution takes hold in the US before WW3 starts.

lemonfreshhh

Yes, Europe would pull every lever it has to retailiate against the US if it were to invade Greenland. And then the US would do the same, and there would be all sorts of pain on both sides (although more for the EU, at least in the short to mid term; in the long term, the US would lose its place on top of the world). But I don't think Europe would be dumb enough to seriously engage the US militarily. We wouldn't stand a chance and we know it, and we also don't need a second front. We'd lose Greenland, the US would lose world primacy, and shareholders around the world would take a massive hit.

Melodic-Hat-2875

Okay. Wow. Alright. If the US seizes Greenland and that does not start a full war with NATO, what happens next? NATO removes the US, the EU may side *with* Russia and China, the United States Dollar plummets catastrophically as the EU dumps the currency and swaps - likely to BRICs. This means the US is no longer dominant in the shrinking global economy and thus loses it's soft power. The US bases in foreign countries (in the EU) are either abandoned or forced out, destroying our forward-deployed positions and ability to respond, thus losing our power projection capability. At this point the United States either *must* start a war to establish dominance (which it won't win, we cannot occupy enough territory, not to mention NATO's nuclear arsenal), or it withers as a pariah state and no longer has a say in how the world moves forward. Now on a personal/moral note: People forget the costs of war - the US especially as our civilians are so insulated from those perils throughout our history. War is horror, it is the worst of humanity brought to deadly light. We *always* forget.

2024Noname

EU will not react to USA anexing Greenland. Noting will happen as loss of that island will not damage EU citizens.

username-not--taken

There will be no war. Greenland is a colony and colonies were never worth defending. Yes NATO will be dead or continue without USA, but EU already has a similar structure to NATO, and US involvement in NATO was dead already anyway.

neo2551

You get that EU is one the biggest holder of US debt? We are talking about interest rates rising to double digits, you already have issue paying back your current coupons, do you think you can afford paying triple?

neo2551

Even easier: US treasuries would tank because EU would sell all of it. Expect a default from the government, and then shit will be fun. We are talking about 2008 crisis level here xD.

azurestrike

How much of the $9T debt is expected to be refinanced this year from EU central banks / retirement funds? How many of them would refuse to do so if US chooses to shoot themselves in the foot and attack an EU / NATO member?

Actual-Engineer-6300

If we invade Greenland,the EU needs to sell all of our bonds,usa would be bankrupt the next day.

mbericom

I am worried that if the EU is busy defending Greenland, Poopin will finally attack the Baltic region.

_-Event-Horizon-_

>Anyway if the EU isn’t eager to fight against Russia they ain’t gonn do shit against the US. They’ve grown fat and lazy being bootlickers The EU isn't eager to fight anyone - not Russia and not the US. The thing, however, is that if the US invades Greenland, it may put the EU in a situation where it doesn't have a choice but to fight back. The situations with the Ukraine war and the potential US military invasion are significantly different: * The EU doesn't have legal obligation to help Ukraine - the aid it provides is an act of good will than an actual legal obligation. The EU could just as easily stand back and do nothing. * On the other hand a potential military attack on Greenland would require an action from the EU - through Article 5 of NATO and through the similar mutual defense agreement at the EU level. So all of Denmark's allies would be legally required to step in help defend Denmark and Greenland.

OkAi0

If annexation happens, the EU might turn to China. Europe needs to be more pragmatic about alliances if America betrays it.

FudgingEgo

I honestly think what's going to happen is the EU/UK will place troops on Greenland and Trump will turn around and go that's all I wanted, more NATO defense, thanks.

Thanosmiss234

It will be more fascinating when EU gets off their butts an actual work in protect themselves instead of writing strongly worded letters!

NotHachi

Well its real.... The US is will the largest military in the world and its threatening the EU as a whole whom military is not as strong (at the moment). So its real.

DazedXxX7

The difference being the US military is built to defeat professional armies, not what they faced in the Middle East. Anyway if the EU isn’t eager to fight against Russia they ain’t gonn do shit against the US. They’ve grown fat and lazy being bootlickers

Zealousideal_Cow_341

I’m normally in this camp too. But this one feels different. He’s such a megalomaniac that I can see there being an obsessive need to make a POTUS mark as grandiose as adding the first US star by conquest. I don’t I just feel like this is something he sees as THE mark he can make—like ushering America into an empire building era or some dumb shit like that. So to me of all the crazy stuff he’s said this is the one I probably take the most serious. Even just saying what he’s said in public setting about willingness to use military to take it has caused nations to mobilize and deploy forces. There’s already EU leaders saying in public that they need to be ready to take us in militaristically. So I guess my point is that of all the things he’s said and done this one is probably the most dangerous and reckless and there’s no reason to act that way unless it’s actually meant.

cupandcone

Can’t believe more people aren’t talking about this. EU countries could cause more damage dumping bonds and moving away from the dollar than by putting boots on the ground in a fight with the US.

Thanosmiss234

Sounds great!!! How soon can US troops and equipment leave EU? Please tell Ukraine to give up all of our equipment. EU got this!!!

Thanosmiss234

Sounds great!!! How soon can US troops and equipment leave EU?

Doc_Bader

EU doesn't need US gas, just for your info. It's just that it's the most convienient to get in large quantities. But there are enough global players to fill the hole. The rest is just jingoistic MURICA mumbo jumbo.

1eejit

The EU backs Denmark up even apart from Nato.

Gaspajo

>I mean come on, Greenland is not even a part of EU. Yes, it is. I think that comment has just shown the extent of your knowledge on this whole topic.

Conscious-Okra9046

Like what? They're already doing everything unimpeded. Epstein files? The 1% that have been released repeatedly feature Trump and nothing happened. Greenland, Venezuela, Iran are all real and genuine threats. He's literally just kidnapped the president of a country. He and Vance both despise Europe and the administration's actions have shown Europe that they're unreliable allies at best, and enemies at worst, which is why EU leaders are taking this seriously. And if the capture of Greenland does happen, it will have severe ramifications for the stock market across the world as the biggest alliance in the world comes to an end.

Amphibious333

The EU can't sanction the US, because it has no leverage. What does the EU have that the US really wants? Literally nothing. The EU is nothing but land for US military base deployment. That's all. Critical resources come from Russia, India, China, Brazil, Mexico, etc..., not the EU.

Nianque

Hang on what? Food imports? The US? Uh... The US is a net *exporter* for food. In fact the EU relies on US grain to keep all of it's farm animals fed. What the heck are you talking about?

CyberbianDude

I heard this same sentiment when Russia attacked Ukraine. NATO or US or EU are going to go after Russia. This is a catastrophe etc. etc. in the end dependencies mattered. Everyone looked at what they were individually gaining or losing. That’s exactly what will happen here. In the end it will depend on who needs whom more. Things will get decided in meetings.

Prometheus_1094

It would revamp the EUs economy. We would build everything locally, and while it might take a while, we will have the know how. The US can't compete with the EU, even less with all other NATO countries. Maybe they have an advantage early on, like nazi Germany did, but you know how that ended . Plus don't underestimate that you will have a flight of talented people to other countries

Gaspajo

The EU won't go to war if the US invades Greenland. But don't be naive to think it'll be business as usual. The US will have invaded EU territory, something Russia never did. All economic ties will be severed. Massive capital outflows from the American stock market. There will also be a tectonic shift in geopolitics. The EU will compromise with Russia (at the expense of Ukraine) and seek closer military and economic cooperation with both Russia and China against their shared new enemy.

NeverGNarcAgain

How can the EU impose "sweeping sanctions" on America? In this battle of the democracies against the autocracies the entire concept of "sweeping sanctions" can only be applied, by definition, against autocratic regimes that hate America's freedom and greatness, regimes such as Russia, China, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc.

Borba_Fett88

If the US takes Greenland, the Europe will probably do nothing because it's too weak and divided, and Trump knows it. Germany is in a recession and France's public debt is now exceeding 110% of its GDP. These are the two main leading countries in the EU. The UK is another major country, even if it has left the EU, but the current UK Cabinet is the most unpopular in the country's history and it's so scared of its voters' anger that they're trying to postpone of one year the local elections in May, during which the Labour party would probably be wiped out for good.

yakuzademon893

How’s Europe handing the invasion of mass migrants that contribute nothing to the host country’s except crimes and rape Europe can’t even secure its own borders and locks people up for Facebook posts the EU is a fucking joke

Farewell-Farewell

The population of the EU is 450 million. Population of the USA is c. 350 million.

Funny-Priority3647

Yes, talking about EU. I think it doesn’t matter if those counties are part of EU or not. What matters is absence of strong reaction. Russia is not a part of EU either but as long as there is money - nothing else matters for them, no principles to adhere.

Nianque

See my comment up above. Without US natural gas and US grain, your factories shut down and your farm animals starve. Much of the stuff not coming from the US? You'll have to outbid China on. Meanwhile the US is importing... Pharmaceuticals despite having a third of the world's R&D for, easily reshored. luxury electronics which can be reshored (and also we can afford to lose some of regardless), industrial parts which can... be reshored. What exactly is the US buying from the EU that it can't do without? I can think of a ton the EU buys from the US that the EU absolutely needs.