EU

tjpalmer37

SAP and OVHcloud are the obvious plays here, but honestly the EU has been talking about digital sovereignty for years without much action. If you really believe in this thesis, maybe look at the STOXX Europe 600 Technology instead of betting on individual winners that might never materialize.

TheRealP3dr0

I wish our EU politicians would see this and act upon. You need balls of steel these days.

No_Membership_8826

Ameritard discovering EU has insulated homes that doesn’t need air conditioning day n night😂😂😂😂

BorrisZ

debasing currency works in EU4, calls.

aomt

If trumps tries to take Greenland by force, market will crash. Attacking EU/NATO member won’t be accepted by majority of the world.  Is Donny confident he will win midterm and still have majority? Or he thinks he must act now? Otherwise I do agree with a lot of your thesis. 

realfire23

good market for EU

Invest0rnoob1

I’m dumping my money into EU etf. This country will have a lost decade or worse.

Maxamillion-X72

The top three holders of US debt are the UK, China, and Japan. The UK is an "ally" and isn't going to do shit, especially because if NATO is still active, it would require the rest of the EU and Canada to back the US if the UK went to war over unpaid debt. Even if NATO is already disbanded, the EU has Russia to worry about. China will be too busy gobbling up it's neighbors to go after the US. The money they lose on US bonds will be more than made up by those gains. Japan will be too busy fighting off China to go after the US.

AvocadoPurees

Waiting to see what the EU bros think about today

kiwimancy

Domiciled in the EU, aka UCITS, investing anywhere? Or domiciled in the US investing in europe?

Galaxy_AI

I have been investing in the EU market. I think Murica becomes another third-world country with kings and queens.

NyranK

Name recognition, I guess. Hilary and Biden might not be everyone's first choice, but a lot of people just gloss over the ballot sheet until they go 'hey, I know them'. This is especially prevalent in 'low information' elections, and Americans seem to take pride in being as uninformed as possible. This last election, you still had people unaware that Biden dropped out for Harris, and the main media coverage she got was republican controlled. Probably a decent chunk of Protest Votes, too, due to the Dems going back to 'business as usual' and trying to run Biden again and again until the obvious caught up with them. A lot of people on the left might have assumed the population wouldn't be dumb enough to elect Trump a second time, so their subtle 'rebellious' act wouldn't really matter. Just like a lot of people in the UK who voted for Brexit just wanted to voice their concerns about immigration, not actually leave the EU. In summary, Einstein (allegedly) said it best. "Only two things are infinite. The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

InIce1234

EU will wake up and be glad that it doesn’t have to send military to Greenland yet, and he is now hunting JPow and buying the dip all the way up until open. Bull never loses. New AHT EOD.

iceoldtea

The all of the EU mainland and the major Asian countries can confidently move their money out without worrying about US Democracy visiting them… which is, uh, a lot

SerpentRoyalty

The only reason the US stock marker has been superior since WWII, is global trust in the Fed's independence. All of these EU retirement funds will pull out when that trust erodes. It won't happen overnight either. Moving that kind of capiral takes time so you'd normally see those effects within a year.

ldskyfly

I got an EU passport last year for my and my kids. Hoping to get my wife hers soon so we don't need to jump through any residency visa hoops

Ksi_x_simon

EUAD is also interesting and EU based. Main reason is because Europe is rearming due to the situation in russia

crek42

The dude gave us a soft landing post COVID and narrowly avoided a recession, while the rest of the western world went into the shitter. Any EU is still trying to pull themselves out. The guy is a wizard.

CarcossaYellowKing

Hedge funds are shitting their pants because companies like Palantir signed a bunch of lucrative contracts with Europe and communication companies have made headway trying to convince the EU to move away from China for cell and internet service only to have 🥭 piss it all away for Greenland. By Greenland I mean purposely destroying NATO because he’s a child molesting Russian asset.

ZHISHER

My girlfriend of 6 years has an EU passport. May be time to go ring shopping.

Shadow_Gabriel

Yes, all these US capitalists are benefiting from not selling more weapons towards Ukraine, the devaluation of the dollar, unpredictable economic policies, mix-messaging on the IR-side, the entire buy-from-EU movement, etc.

taplar

Where exactly are you located? I ask this because unless things have changed, in certain EU countries there is a cap on how much an accumulating fund can save you on taxes. Once you hit the cap, even though the dividends are accumulated you are still responsible for paying taxes.

YakRepresentative833

How retarded do you have to be to think that the US needs the EU more than the EU needs the US? Genuinely how dumb do you have to be to think this?

BaconSarnie2025

I am bullish on silver for completely different reasons - there is a huge physical shortage of it. Each EV made uses 50 grams of silver. The UK sold 500,000 EVs last year, the EU 3,800,000 EVs. thats an additional 200 million grams of silver each and every year. Then there is China, India, Korea etc. Until they can mine more silver, the market is constricted, and new silver mines are very slow at coming online. The tightening of margins and leverage by the exchanges is a good thing, it keeps the market rational, but it won’t hold back the physical demand for a much needed commodity.

Pale-Bench6155

I'd highly recommend Trading212 for EU.

mightyblend

Best ETF for EU markets specifically?

Pretty_Ad_7885

if you want manual then buy m240i but co2 on American cars is too high to buy them in EU

ParkingCool6336

No eres chilango por k te busqué y solo vives en EU. Entiendo que quieres lamber cada palo k vez pero la neta no ay obra en mentir. Como k es popular cuando tuvo k matar a sus oponentes, además d k mexicanos k se están saliendo del país a incrementando mas que en los últimos 30 años. O nunca has ido, no eres mexicano, o solo eres un lambe palo

random_agency

US does regime change all the time. FB and social media algo do sentiment tracking to motivate voters and protestor alike. So I'm not seeing why the EU would be untouchable to regime change. US congress is kind of neutralized now. No checks and balances in the US.

fumagalli

I am not, i was referring to your thought of Trump replacing EU gvt with complacent regimes, which is virtually impossible. Anyway, I am sure congress would intervene before NATO collapses. All Trump is doing right now is destroying the US's soft power it accumulated patiently over the course of 2 world wars.

Tsakax

They will issue a strongly worded letter and hope it blows over. Also there is 80-100k us troops in Europe as well so unless they start expelling US military bases I will assume the EU leadership is not gonna do anything

Europeanroadbycar

This is clear and as well from a sadden reality I have to say. In the good or bad US are quicker... Short-term trading brought to our daily life... Some different lifestyle and we did not understood this in EU... What i know is US is going to lead and lead. Hard days coming for us in EU.

random_agency

100,000 troops in Europe and the most advanced military logistics would say otherwise. Here's a thought experiment. Let's say Trump goes through with the annexation of Greenland. What's EU going to do? Protest. This is about raw power being demonstrated. What is Europe going to do. Fight Russia and the US simultaneously? Its just a scenario. I wouldn't get worked up about it.

IhateEfrickingA

RYCEY because the UK and EU need more air defence thats why ? How many planes/jets they need ?

KnickersTwisted

It's not what Denmark will do, it's what the EU and NATO will do.

Garbage-Disposal-938

From the US side, as an observer, the UK and EU leadership looks something like a puppet of the US, which means a puppet of the deep state, which seems to be some kind of large blob (made up of US/Five Eyes/Israel intelligence agencies) bent on slowing and containing China, breaking up Russia and maintaining control over the Middle East. So whether or not Greenland formally belongs to Denmark or the US is not what matters to that mysterious dark matter blob. The only important thing is: can the deep state blob continue its mission of hurting its opponents?

random_agency

EU is military occupied and infiltrated by US intelligence Regime change to pro-US government wouldn't be thst disruptive.

Boheed

EU countries are discussing moving troops and defensive systems to Greenland and average Europeans are getting spooked from what I hear, so I think they're starting to take it very seriously.

ShittyUsernane1222

\> 🥭 invades greenland, EU forces near US bases surrender rapidly, frontlines freeze elsewhere \> EU dumps us bonds while deploying EU intelligence agencies + MI6 to support Greenlandic insurgents and to finance EU forces in Greenland \> Other countries follow EUs example \> US treasury interest rates spike \> bol market cancelled Most likely sequence of events imo when 🥭 invades greenland .

Helpful-Staff9562

No, you’re missing the point. An Irish domiciled fund pays the 15% US withholding tax at fund level before distributing dividends to investors. A US-domiciled fund, instead, distributes gross dividends, and the 15% US withholding tax is applied at investor level, which you see explicitly as tax withheld. Economically, the 15% withholding applies in both cases. The key difference is that with US domiciled funds, in some countries (for example Switzerland), that 15% withholding can be reclaimed or credited against local taxes, whereas with Irish-domiciled funds it is lost permanently because it occurs inside the fund. In addition, Irish-domiciled funds typically have higher TERs and wider bid ask spreads than their US domiciled counterparts, which further increases the long-term cost. For EU investors, another consideration is US estate tax exposure with US-domiciled funds. However, some countries, such as Switzerland, benefit from a much higher exemption threshold (around USD 15 million) under their estate tax treaty with the US.

Maximum-Magazine-333

EU is now China but with a crazy bureaucracy, was talking to my cn fam about this

SolomonKings7

I doubt the EU will have the balls to sanction U.S. tech and banks. Fines already happen from time to time, but hardcore sanctions from already weakened due to Ukraine war EU? Nah

Jonneponne

Don't you see a risk in "someone else buying"? The volatility would go up as the spread of owners goes down. For example China would buy the EU share and they'd have a bigger leverage? Just genuinely curious.

asdafari14

EU defense is up like 100% last year. Everyone said 2025 was too late to invest. People will still say it and it might be another 50-100% in a year.

Rogue_Tra

what long-term effects have Trump's tariffs caused? Economic analyses generally conclude that the long-term effects of Trump's tariffs have been negative for the U.S. economy as a whole, leading to reduced GDP, higher consumer prices, and disrupted global supply chains.  Key long-term effects observed or projected by economists include: * **Higher Consumer Prices and a Regressive Tax** Tariffs are primarily paid by domestic importers and consumers, not foreign exporters. Studies indicate that these costs have been passed on through higher prices, acting as a regressive tax that disproportionately burdens lower-income households who spend a larger portion of their income on essential goods. Projections suggest an average tax increase per U.S. household of over $1,000 annually. * **Reduced Economic Growth (GDP)** Multiple economic models and studies project that the tariffs will reduce U.S. GDP in the long run. The cumulative effect of the U.S. and retaliatory tariffs is estimated to result in a lower long-run GDP by as much as 0.7%. * **Job Losses in Key Sectors** Contrary to the goal of creating jobs, studies found the tariffs led to net job losses in some American sectors. While some protected industries may have seen minor gains, export-oriented sectors like agriculture and manufacturing experienced significant losses due to higher input costs and retaliatory tariffs from other countries. * **Increased Policy Uncertainty and Reduced Investment** The unpredictable nature and frequent changes to the tariff policies have created significant economic policy uncertainty. This uncertainty prompts businesses to delay investment, hiring, and consumption decisions, which slows economic activity and growth. * **Disruption of Global Supply Chains and Trade Relations** The trade war has encouraged businesses to reroute supply chains, a costly and disruptive process. In the long term, this could lead global trade partners to seek alternative markets and diminish the U.S.'s economic influence and reliability as a trade partner. * **Retaliation by Trading Partners** U.S. tariffs prompted retaliatory tariffs from major partners like China, the EU, Canada, and Mexico. This resulted in reduced demand for American exports, further harming U.S. businesses and workers.  Overall, the long-term consensus among most economists is that the tariffs create economic inefficiencies that outweigh any potential benefits for specific industries, leading to a net negative impact on the broader U.S. economy.  you're an imbicile dude

No-Society6627

As a non-EU person... we don't really care aout trump anymore. How you elected an demendet cheeto, that's on you. He did his shit, Now, we DO NOT CARE. America seems dead, you just don't know it yet. You don't seem to get it, NA is dead.

John-AtlasGames

Sooooo... EU sanctions on USA: bullish?

ScarletHarpy93

The US needs to bomb something in Western EU timezones so it can start the trading day off right.

busterman19

They are trying to expand into small modular reactors for EU. Hold dat bish and keep stacking mo.

longisthewinter

Probably a hold unless you have some specific reason to take profit now e.g. need the money, want to invest in something else. With the EU increasing its investments in both defense and energy the stock is poised for more upside this year in my opinion, and I picked up some shares this week.

Crazy_Donkies

The Visa and Mastercard pumpers over at valueinvesting are kicking their dogs.  First the EU moves to create their own system, then Trumpy shits on their 20% interest.

Smooth-Spot2119

I'm in my 60s and was ready to retire, but decided to put my entire net worth - about $2 million - into ONE stock in August 2022 when Amazon agreed to buy iRobot. I thought it would be a sure thing, and I could make a GUARANTEED quick 20 percent on my money to boost my retirement (was planning to retire in 2023). After all, Amazon would be good for the money, and if the deal didn't go through for some reason, I would still own a successful company that has sold 50 million robots over the years. The EU regulators rejected the buy out, and now the stock is only 10 cents. It fell by more than 99 percent. Next month, the bankruptcy court will cancel my shares, and award the company to its contract manufacturer that was owned money. I couldn't bring myself to take the loss. It wasn't a true loss if I didn't take it was my thinking. But in times of despair, I called the 988 crisis hotline. Anyway, here I am having never sold the stock, and I'm still working, unable to retire. Social Security isn't enough to live on, but interest on Treasuries or a dividend stock ETF would have been enough. The lesson is - don't be afraid to cut your losses.

fallingdowndizzyvr

> Because there is demand for low risk liquid assets. And if the USD is no longer the reserve currency of the world, it won't be low risk. > No, I am saying you are wrong about the reason why we sell bonds, we don't need to borrow money that we can just print Except bonds do more than just print money. Since they bring in a not of foreign investment. > You can buy them at Treasurydirect.gov LOL. Are you under the impression that when China, Japan, Korea and the EU buy a trillion in bonds that they use that website. I feel sorry for them if they do since it's enough of a pain for me. I'm glad they finally got rid of the trash virtual keyboard you had to use to login with.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

Imagine thinking nato doesn’t fall apart if the US attacks and forcibly annex’s land from an EU state

Pretty_Ad_7885

In EU you have to pay 100% tax on a mustang because of the emissions. You cant buy a german V8 for that price but bmw m440i is in that price range

licalier

I mean... At this rate the US will see a EU and China alliance against it so...

Kitchen_File_8946

Bet your ass we are the ain’t no way we are following EU integration conventions after this people will get deported US citizens and asylum seekers alike we will junk down on the service industries we so well in and expand trade with other countries outside the US like southbamerica that just is likely to open up now.

Technical-Music5015

Wrong America is never going to attack Greenland it’s mutual assured destruction without nukes. The EU holds trillions of dollars at US debt. They can take the American dollar within a week

Technical-Music5015

All the EU has to do is drop us bonds and the dollar collapses They will never invade Greenland it would decapitate the American economy

Sufficient_Gas2509

My personal take is US gonna take over Greenland, Denmark cannot do anything about it, and EU countries will not send troops (EU doesn’t have unified military). EU is totally US-dependent, ironically like Uzbekistan of this world to Russia, and it’s just US zone of influence. And they need critical materials to diversify away from China.  Good article on Seek Alpha: The U.S. is interested in Venezuela for the oil, and is now looking at other resource acquisitions elsewhere, most importantly, the ones that help it reduce reliance on China as it dominates global rare earth production and processing. For those of you who aren’t familiar, with AI demand exceeding expectations, what goes into powering these applications, from electronics to defense systems, rare earth minerals have become more important than ever. Back in 2025, China only paused its rare earth export restrictions, and the U.S. isn’t taking any chances here. The pause was just that, a pause, and any change from China’s stance on the matter puts the U.S. in an even tougher situation.

Shot-Pressure-4006

Honestly think we should acquire Greenland. Lol to hell with all that NATO bs….. It’s been a one sided alliance anyway with the U.S leading the charge, spending the most money, cooks to the defense and help of most countries. These same nato allies don’t contribute to our economy or care about our pockets we the Big Bro in the situation. It’s been like that for years all them little EU countries running to our help and we deliver every time. Now it’s time for the U.S to get some compensation back and I think Greenland is fair enough. America has been to kind and sweet spending trillions overseas and being word police for too long. Greenland will be absorbed whether anyone likes its or not am I all for it. We don’t need the rest of the world like that. America’s military would sweep the rest of nato combined

Artistic_Pay_2051

Hello everyone, I'm planning to start investing in ETFs and I'm a complete beginner. My investment goal is to increase the value of my capital, I plan to invest in ETFs for 10+ years and one day have a nice sum of money. I live in Europe, non EU country. Preparing to invest, I researched various ETFs and came to the conclusion that the following ETFs can be a good solution for long-term investing: HSBC Euro Stoxx 50 UCITS ETF EUR (Acc) iShares Core FTSE 100 UCITS ETF GBP (Acc) Amundi Core Stoxx Europe 600 UCITS ETF Acc Amundi Prime Europe UCITS ETF DR © UBS Core MSCI World UCITS ETF hEUR acc SPDR S&P 500 EUR Hedged UCITS ETF UBS Core S&P 500 UCITS ETF hEUR acc UBS Core MSCI Europe UCITS ETF EUR acc Amundi Prime All Country World UCITS ETF Acc iShares Core S&P 500 UCITS ETF USD (Acc) Vanguard S&P 500 UCITS ETF (USD) Accumulating Amundi Prime Euro Government Bond 0-1Y UCITS ETF Acc I'm interested in your thoughts on the above ETFs, do you have experience with any of them?

koopcl

What do you want him to do, bomb New York? The Bundeswehr is already accelerating their rearmament (even moreso than after 2022), Rheinmetall is already out producing the entire US as the biggest munitions builder in NATO since last year, and the EU already approved and put into effect a plan to have the majority of European arms be locally made and designed by the end of the decade in 4 years. All of this in response to Trump, mind you. The military decoupling is absolutely already happening, but to disengage from an alliance almost as old as Trump is takes a lot of time, especially when worrying about the aggressive neighbour making threats to the other side of the map. Performative bullshit like having Merz go on TV yelling that he'll see every American in Rammstein executed if the US attacks NATO is the exact kind of short term thinking, bombastic absurd bullshit I'd expect of Trump. For all the jokes about the EU and their strongly worded letters, changes are actually happening en masse. It's just they're not as attention grabbing as covering yourself in orange paint to dance in front of a camera.

Chemical-Storm-3711

With the amount of USD and US debt the EU and other NATO European hold, they will crash the dollar.

koopcl

This is it. The EU passed the ReArm 2030 plan because of Trump that envisions the majority of EU weapon systems being locally made and designed by the next 4 years. Rheinmetall is already out producing the entire US in ammunition. Non EU allies like Japan, Turkey, Canada and Australia are already part of (or requesting access to) the SAFE program to be able to ensure loans and weapon procurements through Europe instead of relying exclusively on the US which is no longer seen as a safe friend to have. For better or worse Trump fucked the MIC in the butt when it comes to weapons exports, so they'll be looking to secure a lot more funding internally (arming the US forces and, let's be honest here, ICE and other actors for domestic repression) or to start a new shooting war soon to keep the money flowing.

ReasonableBrother448

Yes i think you are right, no EU wide regulation. It is a framework which encourages member states to apply limits specifically to total credit costs (not the actual nominal interest rate). In those states that have these limitations, it does not have any effect on the availability of loans.

kal14144

>Not true as Per the constitution as far as foreign policy go they can’t waiver away from the kingdoms stance for example they are part of EU they can’t decide not to be if they want to be part of the kingdom. “But they’re our colony and we decided they can’t go without our permission” >You can’t get the benefit of being part of Denmark but at the same time do something thats against its interest. If they want out you can’t yell “but you’re benefitting” so you can’t decide that. >If they want to become part of the US its their choice compemsation can be adressed but overall they are certain restriktions. And by “that can be addressed” you mean “we fucking own you you have no right to self determination without your colonial overlord’s approval” >They are for example also ofically a monarchy hence they can’t elect a president only prime minister. They have voting rights in Denmark and share taxes but also benefits. Yes we understand how colonialism works. This isn’t novel. Which is why if they want out nobody should care that you “restrict” them from self determination. At the end of the day under all the layers of faux caring about them there’s just the ancient colonial drive - we fucking own you and you dare not move without our approval. You’re just a colonizer who doesn’t want to lose his colony.

Rude-Opposite-8340

Dumping treasuries was spoken about last week in the EU. It probally will be used if the US doesnt back down. And the Danes will open fire by an invasion, stated by the Danish goverment.

lolercopterx

I agree that it would have negative implications on the US to attack Greenland, but what you wrote isnot consistent with where things are going. China has a burgeoning consumer economy? Nah actually they have a lack of consumer activity and their population is theoretically on track to be lower than that of the US in a few decades. Even so, you think China will play nice with the EU for any benefit other than their own? China is in an existential struggle to become the preeminent global superpower, and they are trying to accomplish this by ruthless economic means. Dont be fooled, the EU is actively being targeted by china, who is supporting russia. Also, i wouldn’t be so quick to assume Australia sides with Europe. Australia needs the US more than Europe as they are both naturally geopolitically allied against China at this point. See how Australia rejected the French sub deal. NATO may be dead as we know it, but certain European countries may still have a lot of incentive to work with the US. I think European handling of Russian assets set a good precedent that it won’t even be that bad for the US from this perspective. Canada may side morally with europe too, but ultimately wont find the EU to be as stable of a market for their exports and economy as the US. And, it would put them squarely between China and the US.

berjaaan

EU really just sitting there letting America say that they are going to invade a EU country. Lmfao. EU is biggest cowards on planet earth. !remind me 1 year When america invades Greenland. Everyone in EU wont do anything. Other than say words. Empty words.

Motorhead546

So time to send the EU S-Squad ?

Kitchen_File_8946

Not true as Per the constitution as far as foreign policy go they can’t waiver away from the kingdoms stance for example they are part of EU they can’t decide not to be if they want to be part of the kingdom. You can’t get the benefit of being part of Denmark but at the same time do something thats against its interest. If they want to become part of the US its their choice compemsation can be adressed but overall they are certain restriktions. They are for example also ofically a monarchy hence they can’t elect a president only prime minister. They have voting rights in Denmark and share taxes but also benefits.

CarRamRob

Trump may very well get Greenland (but probably not), more likely they get additional bases from this. Trump attacking Greenland is also minutely possible, but again unlikely and that “invasion” would be much like Russia taking over Crimea - armed troops but no shooting. The EU nations deploying their Navies and Airforces, across 3,000 km of ocean, to attack the United States forces of 5,000 troops on Greenland is an impossibility.

Endless_Zen

This sub is in complete delulu. Tesla sales are already in the ass in EU, what EV sales are you talking about being in war with Europe? What realistically will happen is trillions of EU money leaving or even forced to leave the US market and thus a sharp decline.

GuyOnTheMoon

Aside from France. Most of the EU leaders get away with being complicit to our US leaders’ interests anyways. In other words, democracy is for the benefit of our rich elites. We will get Greenland even though a majority of Americans disagree with it and a majority of Europeans disagree with it. And it’s all to fuel the military industrial complex that both of our rich elites are in kahoots with.

Salty-Bid1597

They couldn't actually military defend Greenland especially against the US. For a start it's not actually in Europe, secondly they need to defend their eastern border rather more urgently than their western one, thirdly it has no strategic value, no food sources, little that is defensible and even less to defend. The point of course is that being attacked in your rear by an ally is considered far worse than being frontally assaulted by an enemy by most sane people so they shouldn't have to defend it. Europe isn't going to throw European lives away for an arctic wasteland but they will react and that reaction will be economic and diplomatic sanctions. The obvious targets are US mega cap tech companies which will presumably instantly blocked from operating in Europe and any US corporate assets will be frozen a la the Russian assets. Obviously the diplomatic repercussions will be enormous too. The US will be turfed out of the Five Eyes (no doubt Aus and NZ will side with Europe) and all intellegence sharing will be stopped. All US forces in Europe will be given 24 hours notice to leave (if they're lucky) as will embassy staff etc. Support for operations in the Middle East (yes there are still a lot of US troops there) and Africa will be withdrawn and US naval force will be prevented from refueling etc at European ports. NATO will obviously be dead and European nations will withdraw any kind of support or cooperation with the US military. Longer term the obvious path for the EU will be forge closer trade links with China, who they are not in geopolitical competition with and who have a burgeoning consumer society. With larger militaries and new sense of freedom they may finally move to deal the Russian problem once and for all (via Ukraine) and perhaps restart their own Imperialist ambitions in North Africa.

Cagliari77

How can you purchase something which is not for sale? I think Denmark made it clear multiple times that they are not interested in selling the territory. Probably its inhabitants have no interest either. What would be the hard way? Invasion or more reasonable things like army bases? We know invasion is not possible. EU will not simply watch and ignore territories of a member state being invaded. So not sure what Trump's plan is here. If he has a real plan.

esmifra

That's not how trump sees it. And they do it because Puttin wants the EU and NATO gone and trump is or acts as a Russian asset. The US would do it because that's what Russia wants and a deal like this would allow for the US to benefit from it as much as Russia.

esmifra

We're not. As much as I like the overall governing of the EU, military wise it's a shit show. Ukraine was 4 years ago, Trump's first term was almost 10 years ago and Trump got re-elected over a year ago. We knew how bad thigns were going to be. And with all this time gone by and obvious threats to our borders we've done nothing. Except overall ideas and incentives and whatnot.

NewPac

That's great for the EU.

Larry_3d

Haven't you learned Trump's way of getting things? Threatens big then backs out. The US can't really afford to cut ties with EU, if EU sides with China that's game over for the US

Crazy-Buddy-164

Don’t forget how much they seek to lose their free education, EU residency rights, and universal healthcare

GrandKnew

EU military infrastructure is based entirely on US MIC Technology. How many aircraft carriers does the EU have retard? Now look at total EU Military spending vs US military spending. Now look at satellite infrastructure. Now look at energy production. Now look at GDP. Think before you speak. And know your place.

Cutensleepy

US is at 124% on debt/GDP and we can't even tell what our unemployment is because the books are cooked. Being unemployed in the US is also a lot different from being unemployed in the EU.

Fit-Marionberry5248

Highest unemployment in EU 1/2026 (10.6%) and Debt/GDP of ~60% 

D1finalboss

The EU does not want this smoke

tnts_daddy

The US is not going to invade Greenland. What is happening is the US has a strategic interest for the US and NATO countries. Greenland wants to be free of Denmark but are too reliant on them for money. China was investing in a mine in the north and was starting to invest in infrastructure. The US stepped in and stopped and had a US company buy a mine and had Greenland stop working with China. It could be in the best interest of everyone if the US has access to the rare earth minerals there. It's really interesting to read about it. The us is pulling out of the UN because there is veto power by our adversaries like China and Russia. They are continuing to work with NATO and not the EU because the EU is slow and beurocracy bog down.

ReliantToker

EU knows better than that, give them a little credit at least

Crazy-Buddy-164

If the US actually attacked Greenland, and the EU decided to put up a fight, would you fight on the side of the EU?

ReasonableBrother448

That is not true, 10% effective cap is common nowdays in EU.

sd_glokta

If the EU became a unified nation, all the talk about Greenland would come to a swift end

liquidtv78

braindead comment, but actually is the US leaves nato, EU might regress to the 1000 years of infighting that came before

Economy-Prune-8600

You make some great points. However, Net income is down over the last 5 years. The last CEO got shot in the face for stealing from sick people. What is their financial outlook without being able to steal from the elderly and sick? I’m not going to bet it will be positive. I don’t have any moral issues with investing in them. I just don’t know how long they can get away with a business plan that requires stealing. And yes, taking money from people every month by telling them you will cover their health care and then not covering their care is fraud. If I thought this business plan would work I would invest. I’m just not sold on it. I’ll stick to EU defense contractors for now.

absboodoo

NATO/EU/UN vs the final boss of world peace: the American

SerpentRoyalty

Things will never go back to normal again. EU understands now that they need to significantly increase defense spending.

OhMamaWembanyana

EU will massively limit US tech companies. And put massive taxes on them.

0b00000110

Nice. Missed EU defense last year and thought I'm already late, then the US is talking seriously about taking Greenland and here I am again.

NotMe357

I think the Meeting with Greenland and the USA will be good for war stock next week. It doesn't matter what the result is gonna be. If Greenland is willing to give TACO Greendland then TACO knows that they're afraid of him and his military and if they don't give it to him then he will start a new war somewhere and EU will jump in to help Greenland by buying more weapons around the world. Including from the USA.

Fantastic-Ice-1402

NATO is not, it has several EU defense companies. I also specified examples of European companies that are publicly traded.

Deep_Opportunity_883

If you think EU is allowed to have an independent political view from the USA, you're either 5yo or clinically delusional.