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Taymyr

Maybe then, VGK can finally recover from the 2008 American Housing crisis. Of course not including inflation, but the share price might finally hit a new ATH after 6,000 days!!! EU is the future!

pickle9977

Why should the EU care about that, it’s Americans who suffer, they can only do so much to protect us from our own leaders

I_am_Nerman

He just described every country in the EU

VivdR

how can i check other countries or the EU valuation of the US stock market? sorry for my ignorance i’m American

Philllyfanatic

I bought 8,000 HOOD shares at $17 on 8/5/24. I still hold every share. I considered selling 1,000 at $100 to redeploy, but I changed my mind because my thesis hasn’t changed. In fact, I decided to buy dips moving forward. Here are my tailwinds: Tokenization of securities. Allows them to expand into the EU as well as Canada. Change the way securities are exchanged. Transactions close immediately versus next day utilizing crypto and Ethereum specifically. The $1,000 Trump bucks for babies IRA’s. Many of these accounts will land at HOOD. Parents will be able to contribute $5k a year. Most won’t. Some will. They’ll be exposed to the HOOD app. Some will move assets to HOOD through incentives. Greater AUM for HOOD. Generational wealth transfer over the next 30 years as parents leave inheritances to kids that are currently in legacy banks and investment companies but the kids will want it transferred to their Robinhood accounts. Moving into real estate. Tokenization of real estate. Moving into mortgages already. That’s a revenue vertical. Trump administration deregulating allowing Vlad to implement all his crazy ideas for the next 3 years. It’s the wild, Wild West again. That’s just off the top of my head. I’m not selling. I’ll sell something else. In the meantime I’m buying dips if I can. I’ll wait until after end of July earnings and aggressively buy dips until the third Friday in September which is S&P inclusion time again. S&P inclusion is inevitable and that’s just another tailwind. Is there risk? Yes. But I like all the growth and potential tailwinds. HOOD has become my largest position. I have 12,000 shares of HIMS, 1,200 shares of AMZN, 1,200 shares of GOOGL, 1,200 shares of NVDA, 1,200 shares of AMD, 7,500 of both ZETA and OSCR, 2,000 shares of NBIS and a bunch of other stuff. I just don’t know what to sell to buy dips but I won’t sell my HOOD anytime soon because I feel strongest about where they are going.

WinningWatchlist

Yes. The EU has other trade partners beyond the US. The US is putting tariffs on all their trade partners lol.

davanger1980

You are dreaming. People that left (and came back) "recently" was because the money was worth it and they had worked here some. Savings from the US + what they have worked here makes a decent retirement. Plus they came back an invested that money (apartments etc.) and live of that. I moved to Spain when I was 21 in 2021. I have family here and its was really tough to get residency and work permit. Now days getting and maintaining a job is almost next to imposible. I can asure you if you come to the EU with no family connection that can help you, it will be next to imposible to live/make it here.

callsonreddit

Google faces EU antitrust complaint over AI Overviews [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-faces-eu-antitrust-complaint-173654767.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-faces-eu-antitrust-complaint-173654767.html)

Chumpleshitskin

Mercantile Chinese demand -> Natural Resource exporter boom -> Increased global consumer demand for USA/EU/Japanese/Korean exports -> Chimerica. USA Decoupling from China/Tariffs -> Reduced Chinese Mercantile Demand -> Reduced global consumer demand -> Chinese deficits -> Global Recession World of dirty shirts -> USA has cleanest shirt -> USA So 1: Bubble, 2: Pops, 3: USA driven recovery. We're at start of 2.

dotdottydottydot

I deal with niche R&D equipment where there are no US-based manufacturers. The EU products I import have established brand reputation so even if there was a US-based manufacturer, it wouldn't be "the same thing"

Amori_A_Splooge

It's been years. Over a decade actually. Also, your comment only makes sense if the US is the only one supplying arms. Ukraine has a hodge-podge of systems for the past 4 years. They've done more to domesticate manufacturing of key systems in the last two years than the EU has. The EU should have reacted to Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 and 2021 the same way they reacted to Trump winning last November. How an American president being elected can inject more horror and self-preservation amongst EU nations than a literally war in Europe is beyond me. Also, what magic weapon has been cut off? We don't have a silver bullet that is magically keeping Ukraine in the war. Also in what way is the US not giving Ukraine what they've asked for any delineation from US policy since Russia invaded in 2021? Let alone the dramatic changes that have happened since that have dramatically shortened the world-wide supply for interceptors. Would the EU prefer Ukraine get interceptors or ships can travel through the Straight of Hormuz? Both require astronomically expensive missiles to destroy cheap drones.

PsychologicalLion824

>But no country is an island correct, not even the EU

Lonely-Somewhere-385

Yes because those are the discussions I have had with coworkers and other people in their 30s with children who are disgusted by the way America is going. Retirements follow people where they go, and retirement in the EU is better than the US because you can retire earlier and have worked less. Why do you think "big number" is the only consideration? Most americans functionally pay higher taxes than most Europeans specifically because of health care and education.

davanger1980

Ppl need money to retire. You think someone halfway through their working life is going to pickup and start again in a place they will not be able to retired or have a shitty retirement? No taking into account the crazy number of unemployment in the EU compared to the US.

dotdottydottydot

Let me break it down for all you retards who think tariffs aren't happening July 9th because it directly affects my business and it will directly affect you. Before Trump's additional tariffs, I would pay $1.65 (1.65%) tariff to import a $10 cotton t-shirt. The total cost to me is $11.65 but I charge $30. April 2nd: Trump announced country specific tariffs spelling out very clearly that starting April 5th, all imports will be subject to 10% additional tariffs. Countries with specific 'Reciprocal Tariffs' rates will start on April 9th. For example, imports from Vietnam would have 46% & EU would have 20% instead of 10%. The $10 shirt would cost me $16.25 from Vietnam and $13.65 from EU. I jack up my price to $35 to maintain margins. April 9th: TACO. $10 shirt cost me $12.65. I keep my price at $35 because now I get to make more money. June 1st, Trump threatens 50% for all EU imports (up from) but TACOs til July 9th. Starting July 9th, the same shirt from the EU will cost me $16.65. I expect the White House to make an announcement on July 9th and regardless of whether they increase or decrease the tariffs, I am still increasing my price to $40. Imports from Vietnam would have been hit with the 46% had they not negotiated the 20% couple days ago. 20% is better than 46%? Priced in? Bull or bear? Doesn't matter, prices are still increasing.

Godfather751

Good but looks like that only Japan may sign some kind of interim deal before July 9th. EU and India are unlikely to meet trade deadlines.

gargara_s_hui

First of all if AI start taking jobs in this large scale there will be government regulations, which will forbid the use of it in replacement of human jobs. This has been the case in EU for many things, for example government administration - it is bloated beyond believe and half of it can be automated without AI, but still government can't fire these people because of public unrest. This is so for many other private and public companies that hires critical mass of the work force. There are regulations and syndicates, also voting and democracy can correct this and people can vote and elect represntatives that are willing to heavily regulate the use of it in replacement of human jobs.

Lonely-Somewhere-385

EU doesnt pay as high "salaries" but EU countries have social benefits that cover the things Americans need salaries to pay for, like health care or education. Not to mention having far fewer working hours than Americans. My fiancee has been anxious and our timing isnt quite right to try to emigrate until next year. It isnt a question of whether or not it makes financial sense to live in Europe, its a matter of having a stable opportunity.

Xihl

> EU DIPLOMATS SAY NO TRADE DEAL YET WITH US oh boy

baroo88

You mean the 4 year data that was already released with great results and being used in their pending submission for EU approval? 

VitaminOverload

How fucking regarded can a person be it's 1 country, it's a recession until China or EU takes up the mantle and then business as usual with a new Russia tier country in the world

Good_Design7876

The system the US has in place means they will crash from time to time and they will crash deeper than Europe. But the US also recovers much faster - and they grow even higher. Do this long enough and we're in a situation where we have less GDP per capita than rednecks in Mississippi. If we don't step up and get rid of those that caused this, the EU will be a place with a very bright future behind it. In fact: we have already reached that stage. A similar thing happened in the thirties. And we all know how that ended. And we've alreay let the Trojan Horse in.

Good_Design7876

You can talk shit about the US all you want. You might even be right on some things. But don't think for one moment the EU is currently on the right track. We are being replaced and bankrupted in the process and those who criticize it are being silenced or even prosecuted under the banner of 'anti-racism'. That's what they use because they have no arguments, no truth. They want us to comply and it that means humiliating us, they don't care. And if they can't get away stealing your money for migrant benefits, they'll just use the climate change angle. Which is just another scam to end capitalims and enter communims under a 'green' banner. It is no coincidence it is exactly the same type of people supporting that. There is a clear undercurrent under the native population in most EU nations that knows were losing our continent but most are far too lethargic to do something about it. The marxist March Through The Institutions has been succesful. Where marxists talk and complain about privatization and the problems with letting the free market do it's thing, they'll never talk about how they completely encapsulated ngo's, 'thinktanks', the state sponsored media, the juridical system and all kinds of consultants and government bureaucracy that steers state power. This is why they win. Even if a rightwing party wins the election, they still have the bureaucracy. Even is that isnt enough, they have activist judges on their side. And they will always support everything that is deranged and anti-capitalist.

Good_Design7876

Simply put: we financed healthcare by having the US pay for our defenses. Make no mistake: whatever you think of the orange man, Trump is 100% correct about this. Obama and others pointed this out too, but Trump is the first one who actually held us accountable and it was LONG overdue. We do not have a single company that can compare to the likes of Google, Amazon, NVIDIA, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook and Tesla. Not even AMSL comes close. This is because of high taxes but most of all because of over-regulation. The mantra "The US innovates, China copies and the EU regulates" is really true and it is hurting us badly. Instead we are letting in countless amounts of migrants from African and the Middle East who are not only culturally very incompatible, we are even letting them into a generous welfare system to which they will never contribute, yet demand (and get) everything. Guess what happens to a welfare system when there's more and more people taking out from it and less and less people paying into it.

Good_Design7876

I watched the video. It is exactly on point. Allow me to highlight some things about this. It is true that healthcare is generally a lot better in the EU than it is in the US. But, it comes at a cost. The "free" healthcare is one of the biggest expenditures in most EU-nation. For instance, in my country, the Netherlands, our government spends twothirds of all it's expenditures on healthcare and the welfare state (benefits etc). If the cost for healthcare goes up faster than the economy grows, guess what: you're screwed. European countries that were also NATO members have parasited for years on the US by not paying our fair and promised share for our military. There are still European countries like Spain and Belgium that don't even reach the minimum 2% let alone the 5% it's supposed to become (newsflash: they will never reach it).

BlackFlames01

Who do you think subsidized Germany's standard of living? I'll tell you: "Europe built its post-Cold War prosperity on cheap energy from Russia, cheap goods from China, and cheap security from the United States." Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/06/23/europe-security-russia-nato-attack-defense-spending-threshold/ Now that the US and Russia aren't providing security and energy welfare anymore, the EU, including Germany, is struggling. I highly recommend watching this educational video: "When we don't have growth, we can't make life better for people." Source: https://youtu.be/2IOWBjoo7Ew [0:58]

Decimerusi

this is the dumbest thing I've read this week. EU US trade accounts for 30% of world trade and everything is about to be 10-20% more expensive. Take ASML. One of their machines is over 400 million USD. Intel will now have to pay 20% more than that - how do you think that's gonna go down? Or cars? VW and Mercedes sales tanking? & the possible / probable retaliatory tariffs? If you believe any company can 'price in' such a massive increase in their import prices without it destroying the margins you have your head up your ass.

BlackFlames01

You're free to be skeptical, but I'll take Mario Draghi's analysis over yours any day: "Speaking at the launch of the report in Brussels, Draghi said Europe’s productivity was 'weak, very weak', and the energy crisis had shown how the EU needed to end its traditional dependence on countries in other continents for vital energy sources and raw materials." Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/09/eu-mario-draghi-report-spending-boost

Decimerusi

tariff deadline the 9th and he already said he's sending out letters with tariffs from 20 to fucking 70%. He will also -definitely- fuck the EU. You're really not paying attention if you believe the market is going any way but down next week

BlackFlames01

I live in America. It's interesting to hear that from someone in the EU. What are your thoughts on reporter John Stossel's views?: https://youtu.be/2IOWBjoo7Ew

Working-Math-9610

if it is was one country, a lot of GDP will cancel out coz 90% trade is essentially within EU

Good_Design7876

I live in the EU. The fact that the USA has completely outgrown us since the turn of the century is barely mentioned ever here by mainstream media. It's pretty obvious to me it's held under wraps. It's also completely obvious to me why we stay behind. It has - wink wink - something to to with government bureaucracy, taxes and a massive influx from people from certain regions who will never contribute to society and our economy yet demand everything. Do NOT let this happen to you in the US - but be aware because the same tactics will be tried out on you guys as well.

n1ck90z

He said he sent letters to various countries. Also he very recently threatened EU with a 17% tariff on food which makes me think he didn't settle on EU tariffs yet to send them a latter

n1ck90z

He said he sent letters to various countries. Also he very recently threatened EU with a 17% tariff on food which makes me think he didn't settle on EU tariffs yet to send them a latter

_RFAML_

EU and Japan matter most.

slick2hold

Japan and EU aren't main? And the deals with china and Vietnam are not done. There are no deals, just Trumps word he wont charge more than the 55% and 20% to each country. Eeven this ridiculous high tariffs will cripple our economy . Just give it time for Americans to finally run out of money from debt financing. No one can continue paying 55% or 20%. Not companies and certainly not the people. We will come to a grinding halt almost at an instant. The reporting won't show it until it's to late.

n1ck90z

Germany alone is the third country by gdp. EU would be second if it was a country

n1ck90z

I would assume the letters have nothing to do with EU since there are only 10/12 of them. Unless 🥭 thinks EU is a country which probably is the case

itsprobab

I chose EUR transfers because I'm transferring from a EUR account. I buy US stocks though. IBKR will convert it for you. I wasn't even really able to find an easy way to transfer USD. If you live in the EU, EUR is easiest. My transactions are in my account after 10 minutes! And you can set up your account to display your account balance and etc. in USD regardless. The only thing you're not allowed to do is manually make the currency conversation in IBKR, but they will do it for you whenever you buy stocks that are in USD and when you sell them, it will be in USD.

spellstealyoslowfall

Wow you are actively trying to mislead people. It's not allowed everywhere like your insinuating. It's only allowed in the EU because EU have much more lax restrictions on crypto then the US. Them doing this opens up possible American style option plays on US equity in the EU which is prob the next step. For this shit to fly in the US will take a lot of legislative easing and a tall hill to climb.

GhostsinGlass

# China tells EU it can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine, official says Hear that Bubs? It's the Winds of Shit

sinnerman42

Whatever regulation you're thinking off, it works the same way for local EU companies. Also "forcing" Americans? Just how? You make no sense to me.

Good_Design7876

My broker doesnt offer them for this ticker. I am switching to a different one, connected to IBKR. I am not based in the US but in NL so I also get to enjoy shitty EU regulations that are completely useless. There are many US based ETFs I am literally not allowed to buy because they don't offer a KID document in my local language (Dutch). Apparently, the EU thinks EU investors don't understand English and that a KID is useful. It's infuriating to say the least.

IncidentSome4403

>Mutually beneficial Stop using such big book learnin words - seriously I don’t understand how the EU’s leadership is still operating under the delusion of dealing with reasonable, intelligent people

Successful_Owl_

Aligning with the EU is also a fail plan. The EU is full of dead empires and countries with zero. border policy and over regulated markets. Enjoy trying to get Canadian goods into those markets. You're going to wish you had the freedom the US market allowed.

WrexyBalls

Toronto-based Greenland Resources Inc. has received a 30-year permit to mine molybdenum and magnesium at the Malmbjerg project in east Greenland. This is significant because molybdenum is essential for steel and defense manufacturing, with only China (87%) and the US (13%) currently producing it. The Canadian company says the project could supply all of Europe’s defense molybdenum needs for decades. The permit comes as Greenland faces increased geopolitical attention from both the US and EU, who want to reduce dependence on Chinese raw materials. Greenland’s government sees the project as a step toward economic self-sufficiency and job creation, following recent approvals for gold and graphite mining projects.

Significant-Dog-8166

Thanks, those are valid concerns. I’m actually more interested in military industrial stocks. I believe Putin will continue invading neighboring countries for the foreseeable future and I see a massive shift towards EU arms production to offset US retreat from the region.

IllustriousPepper765

#robinhood allowing europoors to invest in openai and SpaceX #via creepto shitcoin tokens #howd they swing that through strict EU regulations but not U.S 🤔

TheCoStudent

US groceries will never pass EU food safety standards. So, yes. EU will buy from other countries that have higher prices, but the food wont poison the continent.

Melonskal

Ever heard about China, the worlds second largest economy? Or the EU with an even bigger economy who are about to close their deal?

Strict_Weather9063

EU out loud you are raising tariffs on us?

AwkwardBet5632

This offer is only available in the EU due to the particulars of their securities regulations.

Ok-Analysis4121

If we get a Canada, Canada and EU trade deal this weekend, we might open +5%

ensui67

Or, the USD rallies within the next five years AND American exceptionalism is back on the menu because Ai was a real thing. The EU doesn’t have any great Ai company dominance prospects and their growth was more based on defense capex and German loosening of the purse strings.

FourteenthCylon

Be careful with those. If the US gets forced into another Great Recession, Europe is going to get hit hard too. Look at what happened to European stock markets during the first round of tariffs and you'll see what I mean. I agree that EU stocks are a better investment than US stocks at the moment, especially if you're buying stocks denominated in Euros, but they're still exposed to a lot of the same risks. You may want to consider Euro-denominated bonds, bond funds or money market funds as a lower risk alternative.

Odd_Theme6757

There is none. This guy is deluded and will lose out on investing in the greatest expansion of US economical dominance. People leaving high paying US jobs for the EU? The EU, the center of all innovation and advancement? 🤣🤣😭😭. I love Reddit ignorance

kommari--

Top professionals leaving the US for EU in numbers is delusional. No one is accepting a fractional salary on top of **completely changing their lives** leaving all their social circles behind because some dorks on Reddit or Twitter are throwing a fit. And if they were, believe you me there are plenty of brilliant people in the world happy to take their place. If you ever start seeing 60k-90k salaries for senior positions (and less for university scientists) over there, then maybe there is a chance. But even then I doubt anyone would be moving because of the top orange. Coming from an EU citizen.

davanger1980

No one is coming to the EU. We do not have comparable salaries.

Recent_Body981

This is a really interesting question that touches on potential economic and social shifts. Here's a breakdown of the factors involved and how they might relate to your investment thesis: **The Premise: A US Exodus and European Gains** Your core idea hinges on the possibility of a significant outflow of skilled workers, particularly scientists and professionals, from the US and their subsequent movement to Europe. Several factors could drive such a shift: * **Political and Social Climate:** Perceived political instability, social issues, and cultural clashes in the US could push individuals to seek a more stable or aligned environment. * **Economic Factors:** Higher taxes in some US states, perceived better work-life balance in Europe, and attractive incentives offered by EU countries could sway professionals. * **Research and Development:** If US funding for certain research areas declines or faces political interference, European institutions and companies could become more attractive. * **Healthcare:** Access to universal healthcare in many EU countries might be a significant draw. **Could This Happen?** Yes, it's *possible*, but the scale and impact are highly uncertain. * **Historically, talent flows are complex.** While there have always been individuals moving across borders, a mass exodus is rare. * **The US remains a powerful draw.** The US economy is still massive and innovative, offering high salaries and opportunities in many sectors. * **Europe has challenges too.** EU countries face their own economic and political issues (varying tax rates, regulations, language barriers, etc.) that might deter some. **Impact on EU Companies: The "Football Transfer" Analogy** Your football transfer analogy is insightful. The injection of talent and expertise could certainly enhance the value of EU companies, particularly in sectors where innovation and skilled labor are critical: * **Biotech and Pharmaceuticals:** US-trained scientists could bolster European companies involved in drug discovery, gene therapy, and related fields. * **Technology:** Software engineers, AI specialists, and hardware developers could significantly contribute to the growth of European tech companies. * **Engineering:** Professionals in fields like aerospace, renewable energy, and advanced manufacturing could strengthen EU companies in these sectors. * **Financial Services:** If professionals in areas like data science, analytics, or fintech relocate, they could enhance innovation and competitiveness. **What to Watch For: Key Indicators** * **Immigration Data:** Monitor immigration statistics from EU countries to track the influx of skilled workers from the US. * **Company Announcements:** Look for announcements from EU companies highlighting the hiring of US professionals or the establishment of new research centers. * **Venture Capital Flows:** Track venture capital investments in EU startups, particularly those founded by or employing US talent. * **Policy Changes:** Observe any policy changes in the US or EU that could encourage or discourage the movement of professionals. **Companies to Watch (This is speculative and requires due diligence):** * **Established European Companies:** * **Pharma/Biotech:** Companies like Novartis (Switzerland), Roche (Switzerland), Sanofi (France), Bayer (Germany), Novo Nordisk (Denmark). These companies are already global players, but could benefit from an influx of top talent. * **Technology:** ASML (Netherlands - semiconductor equipment), SAP (Germany - enterprise software), Ericsson (Sweden - telecom), Nokia (Finland - telecom). * **Engineering:** Siemens (Germany), Airbus (Netherlands/France/Germany/Spain). * **Rising European Startups:** These are riskier investments but have the potential for high growth if they attract the right talent. Identifying specific companies requires more research into emerging industries and venture capital funding rounds. Look for startups in areas like: * AI/Machine Learning * Renewable Energy * Biotechnology * Fintech **Investment Considerations** * **Diversification:** Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Diversify your investments across different sectors and countries. * **Due Diligence:** Thoroughly research any company before investing. Understand their business model, financials, and competitive landscape. * **Long-Term Perspective:** Investing based on this thesis requires a long-term perspective. It may take time for the benefits of a talent influx to materialize. * **Currency Risk:** If you're investing in European companies, be aware of currency fluctuations between the US dollar and the Euro (or other relevant currency). * **Geopolitical Risk:** Be mindful of geopolitical risks that could impact European economies or specific industries. **Important Caveats:** * **This is a hypothetical scenario.** The scale of any US professional exodus is highly uncertain. * **Competition:** EU companies will be competing with other countries and regions for talent. * **Integration Challenges:** Integrating US professionals into European work environments may present challenges. **In conclusion, your idea is intriguing and worth exploring. However, it's crucial to approach it with a realistic understanding of the complexities involved and to conduct thorough research before making any investment decisions.** It's less a sure-fire bet and more a potential trend to monitor and potentially capitalize on with careful stock picking. Good luck! I got this answer from www.stockdoc.biz/chatbot.

Synaps4

I haven't seen much evidence that EU/other companies are prepared to have the agility necessary to take advantage of any incoming experts. You can hire albert einstein, but if he's a slave to whatever his boss wants him to work on he's not going to make any big breakthroughs. Nor have I seen much more than anecdotal evidence of an actual flood of experts leaving, though I'd say it's credible. I'd like to see an actual chart.

Competitive_Ride

EU talks a big game but can't play hardball

CliftonForce

The EU never pays tarriffs. The letter is to inform the EU about how much Americans will pay.

bindermichi

not good ps://www.eunews.it/en/2025/04/08/agrifood-eu-exports-to-the-united-states-increased-by-12-per-cent-in-2024/ But since a significant part is used for food production in the US it's not just going to hurt EU farmers.

GeneralRaspberry8102

I thought he got banned from the EU for trying to smuggle actual Turkish Ice Cream vendors (the kind that do all the stupid tricks) into the Netherlands?

mangofruitdude

70% of Americans die with debt, but yeah EU is broke

Ornery_File_3031

The EU and the rest of the world need to treat the US like the pariah nation we now are. On most goods, the US is replaceable, every nation should tell Trump to fuck off and move on. There may be some short term pain, we are a big market, but in the long run it will be better for their countries. Won’t be good for the US, but we voted for this and deserve it 

WinningWatchlist

Yup, I'm surprised the EU is even willing to come to the table.

2muchnet42day

I said this morning and people downvoted the hell out of me. This shit is coming and many smaller countries will hurry to make a deal before the deadline. The US can afford to sanction a few smaller countries without any issues. Tariff war on China, EU, Canada and Mexico was unsustainable, which is why when China retaliated, Taco just focused on them specifically.

Xihl

>EU TRADE TALKS CONTINUE, OPTIMISTIC FOR AN AGREEMENT IN SHORT ORDER - WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL Either extremely bullish or bearish depending on who the official is

Hot-Television-2829

Well it is mostly because some of the consumers decide not to pay anymore and that causes problems for companies here in Europe which dominantly export to the US. For a lot of them, it is not possible to have different buyers or switch very quickly. It will cause harm to very specific industries in European countries, but also to Europe’s economy as a whole. Is the damage bigger in the US compared to Europe? Absolutely! Does it affect Europe? It absolutely does. (BTW I feel that the game plan of the EU is: extend tariffs, make the increases as low and slow as possible while in the mean time companies are transferred, new customers are seeked etc)

Both-Election3382

Its kind of weird to assume military conflict in this context. This is a trade war. The us imports far more than it exports, europe exports more than it imports. Theres very few things from the US that we need and cant make ourselves or buy elsewhere so this is an easy "win". I say "win" because this is bad for both parties, just less for the EU. It would work better for the US if they didnt just tariff literally everyone else. American companies dont really have a choice but to buy tariffed products/parts and pay up and then defer the cost to the consumer (american citizens). They are in for a world of hurt.

dqui94

Great! EU can increase trade with Canada

S-Club-Party

Bro you can’t call it EU you have to list every member country individually or u/Zeppu will get mad

Xihl

>Member states were briefed on the status of trade negotiations on Friday after a round of talks in Washington this week and were told that a technical agreement in principle was close, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. EU deal coming

the-dude-version-576

The US is way more broke, the EU doesn’t have double its GDP in debt.

frt23

I'm not sure they are going to ever come to a deal with the EU. this is like getting a jury to all vote the same even though its gonna cost some of them more money than others and they are well aware of who will benefit. They also are the most powerful force to stand up to Trump. Far more powerful and scary than China when you add UKs military (which if threatened UK would certainly join the EU forces) Not that I'm suggesting Europe could or would win a war with the United States nor am I suggesting that one will happen but what I'm suggesting is if one were to happen there would be catastrophic losses on the American side and they would never want to be part of that

Blattgeist

From an EU perspective S&P500 is down 7%. That's how much the dollar lost in value.

Hangintough

*Passes Note to EU: Will U Pay Terrif? ▪️Yes ▪️No ▪️Maybe?

Backwardspellcaster

>Ursula von der Leyen, the European commission president, said on Thursday that she hoped for an “agreement in principle” that would allow the sides to keep talking pending a final deal. However, Washington is pushing countries to agree binding deals by Trump’s deadline.  That is where her mistake is. For Trump the only trade deals are "I win, you lose". Mutually beneficially is not part of his vocabulary, and the EU needs to understand that

ProofByVerbosity

EU is broke

shocks124

That’s interesting, I’ll do some more research on that. Japan and European countries are not the US though so I don’t think that comparison works. Also the EU definitely did experience inflation in the past years but I doubt it was due to currency fluctuations.

Significant-Dog-8166

EU stocks are looking great!

callsonreddit

US threatens EU with 17% tariff on food exports [https://www.ft.com/content/d947b21a-18a4-473a-8dd1-e01920c4b644](https://www.ft.com/content/d947b21a-18a4-473a-8dd1-e01920c4b644)

IronyElSupremo

What started as a value move from the US to Europe last year gained momentum as cybersecurity, their own home bias, etc. became added concerns. Modern Europe, however, favors its own large caps to fund social spending, so I’m mostly in their large cap/mid cap “luxury” export space (w/just a token amount in their small caps .. though that’s the same for me worldwide IJR + VSS). Looking at companies like SAP (DE) being in demand, though it’ll likely be a decade or 2 before Europe can be completely independent of US Big Tech. European pharmaceuticals are probably going to be another bright spot and of course luxury exports. Big thing may be EU banks if they decide to deregulate globally.

Hail_Zeus

> EU Diplomats: EU Negotiators fail to achieve a breakthrough in US trade talks, negotiations are to continue in to the weekend. > EU Diplomat: The US has threatened the EU with a potential 17% tariff on EU agri-food exports Threatening additional tariffs is a good sign negotiations are going well with EU /s

Xihl

17% on EU doesn’t seem like that much lol

S-Club-Party

You have the EU in common lmao. When you all agreed to present yourself on the world stage as one trading bloc it logically resulted in people outside of Europe sometimes talking about you collectively

Altruistic-Room2683

US threatens EU with 17% tariff for food exports. Green market following July 4th my ass

ProofByVerbosity

The EU is broke, Canada's economy is weak. Im not betting on China. US equities it is.

peanuts-in-my-jelly

Why shouldn't the UK be a state? They already love talking shiht to the EU

Happy_Discussion_536

Cash doesn't work as a strategy when there is near limitless public support for printing and deficits. This isn't EU.

Character_Economy928

We are the EU! I’m tired of people saying we upped our military spending because the US said so….

thecatteam

On his most recent post from two years ago he was asking if he could use his dual citizenship in a South American country (forgot which one) to enter the EU. He got banned for 10 years for operating a Turkish ice cream cart on a tourist visa in the Netherlands. He thought border patrol might not notice if he used his South American passport instead of the US one.

leeuwvanvlaanderen

Nah, there’s like a 90% chance the EU cuts a quick deal to save our asses, everyone from LVMH to BMW is spending top dollar to lobby the Commission. Which is short-sighted af but that’s life - the US will be back to threatening us again in a year or two.

BetImaginary4945

Not only that but Americans and other non European foreign entities will be moving capital away from the US of Debt. Expect a 2:1 USD:EU in the near future

Otaehryn

European indices and EU area haven't done as well as USA post 2009. But there are some good companies and European blue chips pay good stable dividends. Check whether you need to pay taxes on them.

ImpressiveAmount4684

Fuck yeah Murica, let that sweet Big Beautiful Bill money syphon into the EU markets 😩

Shoker-Gun

I'm also from EU but thats pretty much what is happening

Overall-Fold-9720

Breaking news : a lot of trade deals are basically done. Like China, EU, all of them. Done. Basically signed. Well, as soon as they return my calls I guess. Thank you for your attention on that matter.

old_Spivey

Plus the EU has been ripping off the USA by giving it land grant use for bases, listening posts, and other activities for $1.00 a year.