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eVTOL stonks are ready for takeoff.
FAA Issues G-1 for Lilium Jet, making Lilium($LILM) the only eVTOL manufacturer with EASA and FAA certification basis for a po
$LILM Yolo, 54.8K Shares @ 1.61 Cost Basis
Are penny stocks worth it? 3 to watch right now.
Lilium - electric VTOL aircraft (LILM). What do you guys think to this company. At an all time low and I heard Porsche are looking to invest / buy / save the company.
Lilium is the most under the radar green energy play (eVTOL); you’re about to start hearing a lot about their electric “jets” soon
Using Robinhood's instant deposit as leverage?
Using robinhood's instant deposit as leverage ?
How are you all sleeping on LILM? Looks to me to be the next Tesla.
Amprius Claims Game-changing Battery Recharge Rate $LILM provider
$LILM fully electric jet doing a vertical takeoff and landing while traveling at 40 kts during a test flight. Their Q3 business update is next week
This week's hot stocks, high IV list, top & worst performers of the week.
This week's hot stocks, high IV list, top & worst performers of the week.
PIPE to Float Chart (10/30/2021) - HUMA EFFECT 10/25, BKSY S-1 10/25, LILM EFFECT 10/27, ACHR EFFECT 10/26, SHPW EFFECT 10/27, VLD EFFECT 10/28, ARBE S-1 10/29, MIR S-1 10/27
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Anyone remember German eVOTL stock LILM - it no longer is around. Chinese automakers have been showing off flying cars. And Honda just showed up a flying car so maybe these smaller firms get acquired.
I should preface. I have no business giving any advice to anybody on investing. I do stay up to date with a lot of aviation trends, and the big players. And this seems like a no-brainer. Especially if they can develop energy efficient methods to fly these they are going to be the next car. There’s no way we can keep expanding the roads and keeping this many vehicles on the ground forever. This is from deepseek ### 🚁 **Pure-Play VTOL Stocks: High Risk, High Reward** *(Ranked by near-term potential)* #### **1. Joby Aviation ($JOBY)** - **What they do:** Electric air taxis (5 seats, 150-mile range). - **Catalysts:** - FAA certification expected **late 2025** (biggest near-term catalyst). - Partnerships: **Delta Air Lines**, Toyota, Uber. - Already flying 30,000+ test miles. - **Financials:** - $1.2B cash (no bankruptcy risk until 2027+). - Revenue expected 2026 ($200M+). - **Entry Strategy:** - **Ideal buy zone: $4.50–$5.50/share** (currently ~$5.20). - Buy in 3 tranches: 50% now, 25% at $4.80, 25% at $4.50. - **Price Target:** $12–$15 by 2026 (if FAA approves). --- #### **2. Archer Aviation ($ACHR)** - **What they do:** Urban air mobility (4 seats, 100-mile range). - **Catalysts:** - **United Airlines** ordered 200 aircraft ($1B+ potential). - FAA certification target: **2025**. - Testing piloted flights in 2024. - **Financials:** - $700M cash (runway into 2026). - Revenue start: 2025 (limited scale). - **Entry Strategy:** - **Ideal buy zone: $2.80–$3.50/share** (currently ~$3.90). - Wait for pullback below $3.60 (volatile stock). - **Price Target:** $8–$10 by late 2025. #### **3. Lilium ($LILM)** - **What they do:** Regional jets (6 seats, 155-mile range). - **Catalysts:** - Focus on longer routes (e.g., city-to-airport). - Backed by **Bavarian State Govt.** & private investors. - EASA (Europe) certification target: **2026**. - **Risks:** - Higher cash burn ($100M/quarter). - Needs $500M+ funding by 2025 (likely dilution). - **Entry Strategy:** - **Only buy below $0.90/share** (currently ~$0.95). - Small position (≤3% of VTOL allocation). - **Price Target:** $2.50+ if certification succeeds (2026). --- ### 🔋 **Critical Enablers: Less Volatile, High Upside** #### **1. Honeywell ($HON)** - **Role:** Makes avionics, motors, and flight controls for eVTOLs. - **Advantage:** - Supplies **Joby, Archer, Supernal**. - Steady dividends (2.3% yield). - **Entry:** Buy below **$190/share** (currently ~$195). #### **2. EHang ($EH)** - **Role:** Autonomous air taxis (dominant in China). - **Catalyst:** - World’s 1st certified passenger eVTOL (China, 2023). - Scaling flights in Guangzhou/Shenzhen. - **Risk:** U.S. delisting threat (China-based). - **Entry:** Buy **$14–$16/share** (currently ~$18). #### **3. Blade Air Mobility ($BLDE)** - **Role:** *Operator* (not manufacturer) of urban air routes. - **Edge:** - Already profitable (helicopters → eVTOLs). - Partnering with **Beta, Joby, Electra**. - **Entry:** Buy **$2.80–$3.20/share** (currently ~$3.05). --- ### ⚡ **Battery Tech: The Fuel of eVTOLs** - **QuantumScape ($QS):** Solid-state batteries (2x energy density). - Entry: **$5.50–$6.50** (wait for pullback; high risk). - **Microvast ($MVST):** Aviation-grade battery packs. - Entry: **$0.35–$0.45** (speculative but cheap). --- ### 💡 **Smart Portfolio Allocation** | **Ticker** | % of VTOL Allocation | Entry Price | Notes | |------------|----------------------|------------------|---------------------------| | **$JOBY** | 40% | $4.50–$5.50 | Anchor position | | **$ACHR** | 25% | <$3.60 | High volatility | | **$HON** | 15% | <$190 | Safe dividend | | **$BLDE** | 10% | $2.80–$3.20 | Operator leverage | | **$QS** | 10% | $5.50–$6.50 | Battery moonshot | *(Keep total VTOL allocation ≤ 30% of your overall portfolio)* --- ### ⚠️ **Critical Rules** 1. **Never chase pumps:** eVTOL stocks can surge 50% in a week then crash. 2. **Set sell triggers:** - Sell 25% at 2x gain. - Sell another 25% at 3x. - Hold the rest 5–10 years. 3. **DCA > lump sum:** Invest in 3–4 chunks over 6 months to average down. --- ### 📅 **Timeline to "Never Worry About Money"** - **2025–2027:** Ride certification catalysts ($JOBY, $ACHR 3–5x). - **2028–2030:** Shift profits into cash-flow assets (real estate, dividend stocks). - **2035+:** If VTOLs become the "next EVs," your $10K could grow to $250K+. > *"The big money is made by sitting, not trading."* > — **Jesse Livermore** ---
Very nice. I am playing these via the warrants mostly. ACHR, JOBY, LILM and EVEX. LILM went bust. Have a 10X in ACHR and a 5X in JOBY (warrants). EVEX is up 50%. I thought LILM had the coolest looking eVTOL but they ran out of cash. The German gubmint refused them $50m.
Bummed I missed out on ACHR, bought in at $3 and sold at $5, JOBY raising capital and LILM going bankruptcy turned me away from that space
[Lilium "has not been able to raise sufficient additional funds to conduct its ongoing business", "will apply for regular insolvency proceedings in Germany soon", "ordinary shares will be suspended from trading at the opening of business on November 6, 2024"](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1855756/000110465924113694/tm2427387d1_6k.htm) \- LILM LILMW "With respect to the Company, after continuing to investigate financing possibilities for the Company, Lilium has not been able to raise sufficient additional funds to conduct its ongoing business consistent with past practice. Financing and other strategic alternative options have been pursued without success and it has become apparent that funding for the Company is not feasible." "Against this background, the board of the Company is obliged to file for insolvency under German law without undue delay and in doing so will apply for regular insolvency proceedings in Germany soon. Pursuant to Section 15a (1) Sentence 2 of the German Insolvency Code the application must be filed, at the latest, within three weeks in the case of a cash flow insolvency, and within six weeks of the occurrence of over-indebtedness." "Furthermore, the filing for insolvency in Germany of the Subsidiaries caused the staff of the Nasdaq Listing Qualifications Department to notify the Company that **the Company’s ordinary shares will be suspended from trading at the opening of business on November 6, 2024**, and a Form 25 Notification of Delisting will be filed with the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (the “SEC”) to delist the Company’s securities from the Nasdaq Global Select Market (“Nasdaq”). **Following the trading suspension and/or delisting, the shareholders of the Company are likely to lose the value of their investment in the Company.**"
You should’ve bought LILM like I did. You can probably still get in before it gets delisted.
I waited for that. Do you think ACHR will have sufficient funds for another full year? They're gambling for pre orders at this stage. LILM played the same gamble
LODE is still my major position, and I'm grateful for it. On the riskier end, LILM seems to be overcorrecting due to the insolvency news in Europe. I'm finally in with 1550 shares at $0.105. It's a gamble at this point, but I'm playing with volatility for a quick swing trade. Keep your fingers crossed for me, please.
I'm staying away from eVTOL for now. $LILM just basically went tits up. $JOBY just dropped after hours. $ACHR has been stuck in a double-bottom since late Sept. I'm not optimistic here.
[Lilium German subsidiaries Lilium GmbH and Lilium eAircraft GmbH are or will become unable to pay their existing liabilities due within the next few days; the Company expects that the Subsidiaries will file for insolvency in the competent court in Germany](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1855756/000110465924111048/tm2426768d1_6k.htm) \- LILM LILMW "As previously reported, Lilium N.V. (the “Company” or “Lilium”) has been engaged in fundraising initiatives to raise additional cash including from the German government and other sources. **On October 17, 2024, Lilium received an indication that the budget committee of the parliament of the Federal Republic of Germany would not approve a €50 million guarantee of a contemplated €100 million convertible loan for Lilium from KfW.** In addition, as of the date of this report, Lilium and the Free State of Bavaria have not reached an agreement in principle with respect to a guarantee of at least €50 million. Furthermore, despite its continuous and ongoing fundraising efforts, **the Company has not been able to raise sufficient additional funds to continue the operations of Lilium GmbH and Lilium eAircraft GmbH, Lilium’s principal operating wholly-owned German subsidiaries** (the “Subsidiaries”). As a consequence, **the managing directors of such Subsidiaries have determined that they are overindebted** (Überschuldung) **and are or will become unable to pay their existing liabilities due** (Zahlungsunfähigkeit) **within the next few days. The management of the Subsidiaries has informed the Company that they have to file for insolvency under German law and in doing so will apply for self-administration proceedings in Germany.**" "The filing for insolvency and application for self-administration in Germany could result in the Company’s ordinary shares being delisted from the Nasdaq Global Select Market (“Nasdaq”) or suspended from trading on Nasdaq. Following the trading suspension and/or delisting, the Company’s ordinary shares may commence trading over-the-counter. The over-the-counter market is a significantly more limited market than Nasdaq, and trading over-the-counter will likely result in a less liquid market and higher bid/ask spreads for existing and potential holders of the ordinary shares and could further depress the trading price of the ordinary shares. The Company can provide no assurance that its ordinary shares will commence trading or continue to trade on this market, whether broker-dealers will continue to provide public quotes of the ordinary shares on this market, or whether the trading volume of the ordinary shares will be sufficient to provide for an efficient trading market. As a result of the Subsidiaries’ self-administration proceedings, **the shareholders of the Company are also likely to lose the value of their investment in the Company**."
Check out LILM stock. Bankruptcy
Don’t sleep on Lilium (LILM); going to be a wild ride over the next 6 months. I’m personally all in on it (share count in 5 figs)
Compare these and LILM…oh God…night and day. LILM are just sublime…
LILM. Next generation intercity transport. The air yacht of the rich.
LILM https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lilium-powers-first-lilium-jet-100000681.html
So many too. EVEX EVTL LILM ACHR HOVR
https://preview.redd.it/v57rrk1jabkd1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e750f15750dbb0d1f1dfd01631b204d2d9f7187b Vanguard and Black rock top institutional holders but not many shares. With the two names I like. I just started and want the penny stocks they own. FGEN,KULR,LILM,AKTS,LPTV. When you look at the institutional holders Black Rock and Vanguard are mainly#1 and 2. I personally know absolutely nothing about stocks but if they are in on .10 $1.00stocks. I’m in. Why they buying penny stocks? My theory is they know more than I do…..
I literally posted them in that comment. ACHR/JOBY and EH (but it's Chinese) are going to be first movers amongst publicly traded companies, targeting revenue generating operations beginning in 2025. Vertical Aerospace, LILM, and EVEX are target-2026 companies.
I'll post an actual sector update again next week but for all you ASTS lovers, I am serious when I say that one of ACHR/JOBY and maaaaybe LILM/EVEX/Vertical is going to do what ASTS did in '25 or early '26.... same shit where for 2 years we had small pops on GSAT, ASTS, RKLB, some others in the background, all jockeying to get first mover advantage in this satellite space, and now ASTS is a "winner" in an emergent sector with real revenue and operations. same shit gonna happen with eVTOL. Still too early for like 20-25 price range, but people trying to get in early are still going to see pops, and shares now will be multiples in 2yr time frame.
My bet is Lilium (LILM). My current long term YOLO
Lilium (LILM) will be next. Here’s your sign Not financial advice
Lilium (LILM) will be next. Here’s your sign Not financial advice
Praying this will be the same for me and my LILM bags. Congratulations
ACHR, LILM, And Vertical Aerospace all did the same thing. Wonder what's up. Rotation to speculative bullshit is a go!
Agreed on all points. Cantor Fitz just initiated coverage on $LILM with a $2 PT so I think that one is about read to go soon. Agreed on catalysts coming up for $ACHR. $ERJ also just released their updated Q2 results and backlog and they are off the charts, which I think bodes well for $EVEX because they own like 88% of the outstanding shares and its been quietly hanging out below $4.
$LILM - [the Borrower Fee rate doubled overnight from 8% to 16%](https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nasdaq-lilm/borrow-fee/) and the rebate for lent shares increased from 3.6% to 10.5% after news yesterday that the Saudis signed a firm buy order to purchase 100 jets. The purchase order was the largest to date in the industry and equal to the entire MCAP of the company and included a commitment by the Saudis to help get certification (a key hurdle in this market). The news yesterday led to a huge spike in volume but share price was met with major sell pressure at the $1 level and barely finished above its open. With nearly double the Borrow rate and a major increase in rebate price, indicating borrowed shares are harder to come by, this could see a lot of action today.
I'm gonna end up owning a shit ton of LILM when these 1c end like 3 cents ITM tomorrow.
The $LILM deal is worth the company's entire MCAP currently and includes upfront cash pre-orders to provide liquidity. Even if it doesn't pop all the way by EOW, $LILM should be well over $2 following this news. Saudis are not shy about spending money either and they've now indicated a clear desire to support $LILM in getting certified etc. Really bullish announcement.
LILM should have another 5-10% in it by EOW. Vertical is surprisingly muted given they just pushed info ahead of schedule.
Where's the eVTOL poster from the other day? u/[cantadmittoposting](https://www.reddit.com/user/cantadmittoposting/) The $LILM deal got announced today and is worth the entire market cap of the company! Another eVTOL to pop this week.
I rolled my 8/16 4.5 to 8/16 6c I now have a good chunk of cash on the sideline as i just rolled up to the same number of calls for now... ACHR tends to stairs up/elevator down but you never know when a rocket ship will hit from a catalyst. Since weekly 6c are still .05, i might plus up my position there, in case it goes off the rails suddenly, and hold a bit of cash as the week goes on. I'm also putting in a position on LILM 1c (weekly) and potentially 1.5c (Aug or Oct) as they have a catalyst this week... just sort of frustratedly staring at the JOBY juggernaut, no idea what entry looks like there right now
it's a really fucking risky catalyst-driven play and the sector has seen more up-side than i expected last two weeks so entry points are a little shakier. But Paris Olympics will have demo flights of eVTOL which may be really good. You can check my Submitted posts for more info. Moonshot play of this week *might* be LILM 1c at this point, but it's hella uncertain. They have a big press event at their HQ on Thursday with a Saudi group that confirmed future orders from them.
For my space investors and eVTOL speculators: it is looking like there's already some good pre-market volume for $LUNR, $RKLB, $RDW and $SPCE for the former and $JOBY, $ACHR and $LILM for the latter. These are riskier plays given they are emerging growth companies with new tech but all have been very volatile this month with some solid price action on days when there's pre-market volume.
Yeah, was already planning some moves here ... ah good my PDT flag got cleared, yeah picking up the positions I mentioned in my OP on LILM, plus some lotto ticket weeklies as well.
I think you’re mistaken about $LILM being quiet. They have a planned announcement at their HQ for July 18th to announce new contracts with Saudis. A lot of volume on $1c 7/19.
Avoiding spamming, just putting thoughts here for analysis next week: **ACHR vs JOBY** * JOBY both gained and sustained momentum much better than ACHR after both having catalysts last week. ACHR only maintained Friday's gains (barely) by EOD after exhibiting its usual "premarket pump into big open dump" behavior, showing above 5.5 premarket... which has an unclear cause that some claim is shorts closing positions. Meanwhile JOBY ran 20+% and then 6% on both Fri and Mon. * Joby's "technical" catalyst is probably a lot more hype generating, that's a big jump for a new technology (hydrogen regional flight). Moreover, Joby's cash position is excellent. However, Joby's operational timeline, order book, and operational territory *seems* less clear than ACHR's. * At this point, it's pretty clear that JOBY does have legs to clear 10+ over time if they maintain positive news and keep cash position high, or declare they have the cash to see through to revenue generation. * Meanwhile, ACHR's "business side" and ambitiously large production line plans still makes me think they're undervalued, while recognizing that they may struggle if they show an obvious need to raise more equity and dilute. Q2 earnings are going to be a BIG deal for ACHR I think. **Predictions EOW:** ACHR sits no higher than 6 and likely barely bleeds to 5.5 on current news, unless they reveal a big technical or financial catalyst (not another "business" catalyst). JOBY settles at 7-7.5 absent any other catalyst. **Vertical** Surprising strength from them. I think investors are clued into them being successful soon with a new test flight. We might see a continued climb into the test flight instead of investors waiting on it before jumping in. Surprisingly high risk tolerance if that's the case, but the company's capitalization is quite small so even a few dedicated small investors could create a spike. **Prediction EOW:** struggles to stay above 1 still, possibly with a big Green Day to 1.1 before retracing. Stays quiet this week, doubtful we get a test flight update until next week, considering they pushed back from flying at FIA next week to give themselves more time to prep. **Ehang** did the "Chinese company" thing and dumped with all the other Chinese stocks today on political news most likely. Third Plenum coming, so volatility is likely. Bleeds down unless they get tagged as important during the economic summit. **EVEX** Appreciated to their target equity sales value, somewhat unsurprisingly. Embraer is at FIA next week; if they announce their equity round is complete and the price is solid at 4 still, I see a run to 4.5 by EOW and 5 EOM if FIA goes well for them. **LILM** No noise here, expect flat through the week.
Hell yea, finally some traction for eVTOL baby! I bought 250x 10/18 $ACHR calls back on June 28th for $0.10 a pop and have been selling off chunks up to as much as $0.90 since. I took some of that money and bought 200x $5 10/18 $EVEX calls for $0.10 each which I feel good about given Embraer’s 88% ownership and continued investment acts as a floor. They’ve also got the biggest backlog and are closest, besides JOBY, to certification. I also bought a shit ton of $LILM $1 call options for later this year. They are apparently having a press conference next week at their HQ on July 18th to announce new contracts—so I think it will pop as they’ve been coy about the details of the announcement and I don’t think last’s week’s spike priced that in accurately if the contract is big.
Anyone playing electric aviation? ACHR, JOBY, LILM
what is every one thinking for LILM
Is anyone playing LILM or YEXT earnings??
The eVTOL air market is very tiny for the 1% clients. JOBY, EH, ACHR, LILM, EVTL Look at BLDE who already runs air taxi operations and has revenue. Excuse the pun, but it's not taking off. It is very volatile if you want to play that. Volocopter is or is not going to have air taxis at Paris Olympics. Time will tell. ACHR may or may not have air taxis in Houston with United for 2026 world cup. JOBY & ACHR may or may not have air taxis at 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles. It's technically interesting, but there are a lot of eVTOL bag holders.
https://preview.redd.it/e1gbibsqetyc1.png?width=1482&format=png&auto=webp&s=2a18c80a1c43697761878b6771bf217a8f57b869 I posted this DD a few weeks ago while LILM was below $500 million market cap and unfortunately it was deleted: [https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1c24gkp/lilium\_lilm\_vs\_archer\_achr\_evtol\_smackdown\_ones/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1c24gkp/lilium_lilm_vs_archer_achr_evtol_smackdown_ones/)
LILM Cost basis of 0.41 so already profitable on my end. Literally the only penny stock I will hold longer than a few months.
LILM Just don't know when so can't say next.
Let’s move all of the in $LILM
EVTOLs like Joby and LILM might be THE next real big shit from my point of view. High risk to join in at the moment but subscribe their newsletter and jump in once they start to have some real revenues or latest when they start to have some profits. Might be the next Airbus/Boeing
$LILM and $VIEW they've been pretty steady today but bet they're gonna pop Monday.
LILM. All or nothing if anyway just 100$
LILM is on a tear. LVRO sorting itself out after deSPAC.
Exited my NRXP commons that I bought pretty low for a decent slow climb up and gains. Never did pull the trigger on that LAB M and A. Wanted a piece of RKLB and LILM, but am loathe to spend cash. But I think that LILM will run in a month. I’m just in the ARIZR and BRKHW now. I’m willing to lose what I have staked in those two if they liquidate. Feel content with my remaining few tickers. Wish I were holding commons instead of warrants on that SABS. But I have an ungodly amount of SABS warrants and that’s just how it works if I don’t want to be overweight on that. Been doing ok with some infrequent smash and grabs by dumping a ton of cash in at once and quickly exiting. I’m waiting for Santa Rally and H22024. Then I think I’ll be making some jack again. More time than money.😉GLTA, happy Friday.
Only bought one share, but LILM dropped by more than 90% right after I bought it.
Bro it's just 80%.... Meanwhile LILM was +200% a few weeks ago and PLTR +120%
Great summary. Would appreciate your comparing $LILM with $ACHR and $JOBY.
Interesting! Palantir was one of the most talked about stocks when I first joined this sub. I hold no positions currently in PLTR or LILM, but the tickers mentioned are remaining on my watchlist. The volume in the past few months has just been unbelievable. Will one of these become tesla of the sky? I recently found a few electric yacht plays that I’m watching closely now. VMAR and MBUU
Palantir invested in SPACs back in 2021 LILM was one of them. I heard the bought more LILM and RBT in the last quarter. Just never thought to follow PLTR into their SPAC YOLOs.
I caught the bottom of LILM and have been swinging it. Once those articles about private jets and billionaires contributing to pollution came out, I looked up electric airlines.
Very short takeoffs would be great for takeoffs from tops of buildings. Landing back on top of them is where I would think they would have problems compared to joby and archer. But the real reason I think LILM has its own marketshare is the actual range and payload of their jet is a lot better vs the manned drone type of vehicles since they have more passive lift and lower energy consumption during the cruise phase, joby and archer are black holes for electricity, which is why helicopters and passenger planes have their own niches and could very well happen in the EVTOL industry as well. If the industry does end up taking off I don't think there will only be 1 winner either. Way too early to tell where it's all headed though
Same like people today say about Lilium (LILM).
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Quite a haircut on LILM today. What happened?
I'm holding onto JOBY and LILM right now. Maybe look into those!
Despacs: Long on LILM, AWIN, BRDS Short or considering short on JOBY, TMC. what other despacs are seriously undervalued or overvalued?
LILM / Lilium missing from your post + way better equipped to handle intercity taxi use case
I got duped into thinking like OP about a year ago... Glad I sold my LILM calls before they tanked. I wouldn't be averse to getting shares in one of these companies now.
Buying some joby January $10 puts here. Market cap is just crazy. Although it could pump. I'm long LILM at 700m market cap Short JOBY at 7b market cap I like EVTOL overall, but valuation matters and i think the JOBY pump won't last more than a couple months.
Tickers to check out JOBY, EVEX, and LILM. They are essentially manned drones. Lol. Flying public not ready for no pilot, so they stick a human in there to operate the drone whilst in the drone. LOL. Joby has steam, but EVEX has better TAM and has the real money maker hubs already online for two years. Evex does both the ground logisitics and infra and they have the EVE spinoff from Embrarer. I mentioned elsewhere that Helos are already used as Taxis in London and throughout Brazil. EVEX made all those arrangements two years ago with the respective FAAs. They also have New Jersey and NYC. But JOBY just got Delta hub integration last week. Lilium has the best stock price and float vis a vis burn and revenue. It's a better value. They also have Florida cornered and the ten Vertiports coming online through municiple subsidies in Florida. I like the Lilium guys for the Danube corridor, too. They will get the continent's market, they run out of Munich. They are prototyping floating Vertipads so you can get downtown really fast from crap outer perimeter airports. Ask me how I know? Because I capitulated 18 months ago on $19K ZNTE warrants during the SPAC apocalypse. ZNTE was targeting EVEX. EVEX is now one of the few SPACs trading over ten bucks. Shrugs shoulders. I knew I was fucked when I saw their address was Chagrin Avenue in their SEC filings. But the principals (Ken Ricci) are all Notre Dame alumni like myself and really some of the strongest names in aviation. Other than flipping and making momentum plays, I am thinking of going long on Ferrovial because they have the current contracts for the largest infrastucture buildout. Spanish Company, it's like a brick and mortar eVTOL play. https://newsroom.ferrovial.com/en/press\_releases/ferrovial-lilium-vertiport-agreement/
Do you actually know anything about the eVTOL market? I see no mention of their competitors or MOAT that would make LILM a winner in the short/medium/long term. And you don’t even have a position in it? What kind of DD is that?
As a science fiction fan, I have an interest in companies like LILM. I know these start up companies can be trouble and extremely risky but I was curious what everyone here thinks. I'm definitely more biased to this kind of technology as it is just super exciting for me. Does anyone here own LILM or have it on your watch list? What are your thoughts on this emerging electric aerial vehicle sector? Are we looking at the future or are these companies not going to be able to produce what they have promised. Just curious what everyone's thoughts are. Have a great weekend!
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the three. I still do think there's more value to be gained on LILM, purely because it's still only half of the 52 week high (compared to the other two). Once I see that the former execs stop selling off, I plan to buy some 5 dollar leaps on Archer. I'm digging the Jan 19th, 2024 5.00 CALLS for \~90 cents a pop.
JOBY market cap is 7b, I'm looking to short LILM market cap is 700m, I'm long. (Public float only 200m) Any other EVTOL stocks that are potentially mispriced?
Alright power hour, time to turn my 75% up LILM call into 200%+
LILM and XPEV are also in this market. none of these companies are profitable though. also checkout Liliums aircraft, it looks way more durable than JOBY's
LILM and XPEV too. only problem is none of these companies make money yet
LILM had a really nice uptick after the latest infusion, but it will still keep struggling until they have FAA/EASA approval. The latest on that is this: Progressed type-certification, with 78% of the Lilium Jet’s Means of Compliance (MoCs) agreed, driven by EASA’s acceptance of MoCs in areas of propulsion and energy system. I don't know if this means that they are at 78% of getting approved or if it an incremental approval only for propulsion and energy. Maybe someone here knows more?
There is a lot of hopium for the group BLDE, LILM, ACHR, EVTL, EH.
It's going to happen, people will sell out when they see a bit of money come back in. That's what causes the classic saw tooth on heavily shorted stocks, but there will come a point where the price breaks out. Look at LILM for an example.
LILM, has a million in bid just now. Something going on.
[Lilium Announces Capital Raise for Up to $250 Million, with $100 Million Funded at Close](https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2023/05/02/2658893/0/en/Lilium-Announces-Capital-Raise-for-Up-to-250-Million-with-100-Million-Funded-at-Close.html) \- LILM LILMW Press release doesn't have any details on the funding. LILM filed a [6-K report](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1855756/000110465923054601/tm2314237d1_6k.htm) with details. Tencent Holdings Limited is buying 184,210,526 warrants, with an exercise price of $1 each, and will pre-fund $100,000,000 of the aggregate exercise price. ***If*** LILM can find another investor to fund $75 million, Tencent will pre-fund another $75 million of the warrants. LILM hasn't traded at $1 a share since February.
LILM, I lost 95% of my $10
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