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I was just trying to study for the LSAT in peace cmon man
Even the LSAT test writers know that Apes are better investors than humans.
EXPR Elliot Wave Anal Isis by a Dummy.
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LSAT applications up, portfolios down. Balance restored
my guess is OP didn't do well on the part of the LSAT where one's tasked with interpreting chart. Looks like 2 for 3 to me. 66% seems like a failing grade.
I was about to go to law school in 2006, but decided to try music for a bit instead. Tried touring a couple of times and did the LSAT in 2007 or 2008. LSAT got interrupted by a dog parade (Thanks Deland, FL!) -- took that as a sign that I wasn't meant to be a lawyer, and I was supposed to be a musician. Left the punk band, joined a prog metal band... Did the touring thing a couple of times while struggling at playing local shows. Hated it. Decided that my life-long passion is now dead. Got heavy into IT. 2025, 17 year IT career now, on a long enough timeline, I see my skillset (Cloud Engineering & DevOps) being fully replaced by AI. Kinda want to go to law school now, even though that's going to be replaced by AI in time as well. I have new reasons for wanting the law degree.
It’s worth noting that a growing portion of law schools don’t even require the LSAT anymore, which would further exacerbate these numbers.
Or, perhaps, AI has enabled more to peruse the LSAT.
Why is the LSAT registration a recession indicator?
This is lagging not leading. Source: finished undergrad 2010 with that huge spike of LSAT takers who couldn’t find jobs. Job market very tough now for new graduates. This is very well-known.
Took the LSAT, scored 155. Didn’t get in. Years later, I was at a legal conference, and the number of sad-faced lawyers, many divorced twice, just floored me. I felt like I dodged a bullet so many years ago.
4 for 4 spiking AFTER a recession. The market crashed in 2000 and 2008. The LSAT spiked way later both times.
The spikes do not line up whatsoever. LSAT spiked well after the crashes in 2000 and 2008.
I took the LSAT in 2017 while looking to become a personal injury attorney. Fate had it I was at a shitty mid major college basketball game in an NBA arena sitting court side with a the county DA and a prominent personal injury attorney (maybe 150 people there). We got shit faced and They talked me out of it that night by each telling me how shitty their profession is and how they wish they could go back in time and do something else. I still think about those guys every now and again, I’ll never forget the DA buying me a beer and stumbling saying “You’re like a son I never had.” We had met 45 min before that.
I see zero correlation between 'LSAT registration spikes' and the recessions. What am I missing??
In 2 years. LSAT registrations have been a 3 for 4 recession indicator
In the US, you need to take the LSAT before applying to law school. Meaning the spikes are due to people not finding a job in the hellscape of the dot-com crash, the subprime mortgage crisis that started the Great Recession and during COVID lockdown. Thinking to themselves they'll live off student loans until the economy improves. Joke's on them this time around, thought. AI is coming to destroy a bunch of the entry level junior associate jobs. Stuff like document review and case summaries can be handled more quickly and much cheaper than with AI. Source: me. I went to law school in the early 2000s. Don't go, being a lawyer blows.
Right lol. Stripper posting about scoring in the 95th percentile for the LSAT practice tests who’s addicted to coffee and able to drop a couple grand on espresso equipment.
/slow clap “by the time I was 26 I had been out of my parents’ home for five year, and lived in a foreign country besides” Well Katley most successful people I know live with their parents at 26 and beyond: Modernly, it takes the average college student 4 1/2 years for a bachelors and 5 1/2 for engineering. My family lives on the Main Line in Pennsylvania and at 18 I started undergrad at Bryn Mawr and graduated at 24; I graduated with a BS in ChemE with a 3.896 GPA making all A’s with only one B. I had also studied for 9 months for the LSAT. I graduated from undergrad with $140k in debt and only maintained such a low debt load because I lived at home and worked part time all through college as well as doing work-study. I was not accepted to a single top 14 (T14) law school because my LSAT was not high enough, so I moved across the country and went to Cal Poly where I received free tuition and dorm working on a masters in Chemical Engineering while I worked as an undergrad TA — I used this time to study for the LSAT. I took out less than $20k for my MS — but was now $160k in debt. I still was not able to crack the elusive T14, but I moved back in with my parents and attended Penn Law and because of my 1L GPA–I was finally able to transfer to gain admission to a T14 (NYU Law) at the end of my 1L year. If you don’t know anything about law–graduating from a T14 is pretty much required to get an associate offer in Big Law. Because of my GPA at NYU I was offered a summer associate position at a Big Law firm during the summer of both my 2L and 3L year. I was offered a job during OCI and was offered a job in Big Law before I graduated (provided that I pass NY Bar and Patent Bar.) I got my JD at 30 and had passed both the bar and patent bar easily (with patent thanks to my M.S.CEP) by the age of 31. I moved back in with my parents, while working as an associate in Big Law, but Big Law only pays $120k a year–by now I was at $260k in non-dischargeable student loan debt. So let me ask you this Katley–what would you do if you only made $120k a year, had a contract with big law to bill 2450 hours a year where rent in the city would be $2200 for a 5th floor walkup (how fun leaving for work at 5:30am and returning home at 11:30 pm 6 days a week and walking up 4 flights of stairs) I would have to cough up an extra $600 or so if I wanted a space big enough for both a desk and a bed. Or an extra $1000 if I wanted an elevator. Or I could go back and live with my parents like most associates that work big law/ finance. Why would I be worried about where to bring girls home? What girls? Girls from law school (who understand) or girls in banking? They all understand. Everyone lives at home. Katly at 26 there is no way that you: 1) have life all figured out 2) have a good career 3) are not living off of family money, and 4) live in a real city (LA or NYC.) I imagine that you can scrape by, live in flyover country, and work in some crap sub $100k a year job. I am on track to make junior partner in 8 years. When I receive my first $1mil partner bonus–that is when I will leave home. Once I am partner, I will only have to work 60 or so hours a week and should have a few hundred thousand saved up–and be debt
Look at my comment. You guys could never pass the LSAT. Terrible reading comprehension
I take the LSAT in 20 minutes. Wish me luck!
When I practice for the LSAT, I get questions wrong. Getting questions wrong makes me feel stupid. I don’t like feeling stupid. Why would I do that to myself? So, I shall not practice anymore.
Do you have to have a degree to pass the LSAT?
Taking the LSAT for fun on the 11th. Being a lawyer sounds shitty as fuck but I was binging suits back in January and it seemed easy. Haven’t studied at all really. Took two practice tests a few months ago, got a 161 and 168. Gonna take two more this week/weekend, aiming for a 172-175.
Math? Not on the LSAT
These LSAT questions are breaking my brain. Please God just let me get rich off the market 
If this was an LSAT question it would result in a public apology from the test makers lol
That’s why you failed ur LSAT dumbass 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m in tech and am considering getting out. I’ve considered law, but am worried I’m too old and that AI is going to make the field unrecognizable in a short time. Studying for the LSAT right now while I finish up a long ago abandoned degree.
Man I scored a 168 on the LSAT without studying
Asked my ChatGPT what I should do tonight: 1.) Study for the LSAT 2.) study pre-requisite math for ML stuff 3.) work on a project involving AWS 4.) Jiu Jitsu class 5.) Get high and play project Zomboid It says if I want to wake up feeling like an unstoppable force of nature, I should go to jiu jitsu then get high and play project Zomboid
That's not going to fucking happen. There's nothing forcing you to use chrome. Hell, when I took the LSAT it advised to use Edge lol.
Are you practicing for the LSAT? It says, " any gains I make ..." not "ALL." Do you want to stand out as the smartest on WSB?
I think it's ultimately still productivity related. Schools went full remote for 2 years during Rona and grades declined across the board. LSAT scores went in the tank. The powers that be have the numbers and will never share them, but I would not be surprised if WFH wagies showed a similar falloff in work quality.
I will say I’ve done this with my paper trading account has well before. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen returns like this. That being said I’ve also seen losers and need to seriously tighten up my exit strategy. I think I excel at logically thinking through trades without a emotion and pattern recognition (95 percentile in LSAT test and 99 percentile in crossover CCAT test)
are you in college? high school? taken the LSAT yet?
Just in case Kamala Harris becomes our next-next President, I just want to remind everyone that her dad was a Stanford Professor, her mom was a Biomedical Scientist at McGill and Berkeley... ...and because of Kamala's "disadvantaged" background, she was admitted to law school on the "Legal Education Opportunity Program" which >LEOP offers admission to approximately 50 high-achieving students each year—up to 20 percent of the class—who have experienced major life hurdles, such as educational disadvantage, economic hardship, or disability. The majority are students of color. Besides traditional admissions criteria, such as grades and LSAT scores, the program also considers students’ overall potential and the obstacles they’ve overcome. “These are extraordinary students who have been playing while injured in the game of life, but all they do is win,” McGriff said.
Most successful people I know lived with their parents at 26 and beyond. Modernly, it takes the average college student 4 1/2 years for a bachelors and 5 1/2 for engineering. My family lives on the Main Line in Pennsylvania and at 18 I started undergrad at Bryn Mawr and graduated at 24; I graduated with a BS in ChemE with a 3.896 GPA making all A’s with only one B. I had also studied for 9 months for the LSAT. I graduated from undergrad with $140k in debt and only maintained such a low debt load because I lived at home and worked part time all through college as well as doing work-study. I was not accepted to a single top 14 (T14) law school because my LSAT was not high enough, so I moved across the country and went to Cal Poly where I received free tuition and dorm working on a masters in Chemical Engineering while I worked as an undergrad TA — I used this time to study for the LSAT. I took out less than $20k for my MS — but was now $160k in debt. I still was not able to crack the elusive T14, but I moved back in with my parents and attended Penn Law and because of my 1L GPA–I was finally able to transfer to gain admission to a T14 (NYU Law) at the end of my 1L year. If you don’t know anything about law–graduating from a T14 is pretty much required to get an associate offer in Big Law. Because of my GPA at NYU I was offered a summer associate position at a Big Law firm during the summer of both my 2L and 3L year. I was offered a job during OCI and was offered a job in Big Law before I graduated (provided that I pass NY Bar and Patent Bar.) I got my JD at 30 and had passed both the bar and patent bar easily (with patent thanks to my M.S.CEP) by the age of 31. I moved back in with my parents, while working as an associate in Big Law, but Big Law only pays $120k a year–by now I was at $260k in non-dischargeable student loan debt. So let me ask you this –what would you do if you only made $120k a year, had a contract with big law to bill 2450 hours a year where rent in the city would be $2200 for a 5th floor walkup (how fun leaving for work at 5:30am and returning home at 11:30 pm 6 days a week and walking up 4 flights of stairs) I would have to cough up an extra $600 or so if I wanted a space big enough for both a desk and a bed. Or an extra $1000 if I wanted an elevator. Or I could go back and live with my parents like most associates that work big law/ finance. Why would I be worried about where to bring girls home? What girls? Girls from law school (who understand) or girls in banking? They all understand. Everyone lives at home. Maybe not in flyover country–but my friends working in Big Law over in LA are the same way. Most of the ones working in Oil Big Law (Houston) got canned–but most of the people who went into Oil & Gas and took an Oil Big Law job. . . did so because they had free rent in Houston. In your 20s there is no way that you: 1) have life all figured out 2) have a good career 3) are not living off of family money, and 4) live in a real city (LA or NYC.) I imagine that you can scrape by, live in flyover country, and work in some crap sub $100k a year job. But isn’t the point of this site trying to make something of yourself? I am on track to make junior partner in 8 years. When I receive my first $1mil partner bonus–that is when I will leave home. Once I am partner, I will only have to work 60 or so hours a week and should have a few hundred thousand saved up–and be debt free. If I can hit senior partner by the time I am 50–I should be making $3mil to $4mil annually. It is not much compared to some finance guys, but lawyers never retire and I will make at least $1mil for life as a stock holding partner–even after I no longer go to the office. By then I should have an apartment overlooking Central Park, a summer place in Cape Cod, and a winter condo down in Boca Raton.
The smartest human being I personally know didn't finish high school. He took the LSAT and got a near perfect score. He applied to law schools and they all begged him to get a degree so they can admit him. He got university of Phoenix degree in like 18 months and went to a top twenty law school
Nice. How did you do on your LSAT?
Most successful people I know live with their parents at 26 and beyond: Modernly, it takes the average college student 4 1/2 years for a bachelors and 5 1/2 for engineering. My family lives on the Main Line in Pennsylvania and at 18 I started undergrad at Bryn Mawr and graduated at 24; I graduated with a BS in ChemE with a 3.896 GPA making all A’s with only one B. I had also studied for 9 months for the LSAT. I graduated from undergrad with $140k in debt and only maintained such a low debt load because I lived at home and worked part time all through college as well as doing work-study. I was not accepted to a single top 14 (T14) law school because my LSAT was not high enough, so I moved across the country and went to Cal Poly where I received free tuition and dorm working on a masters in Chemical Engineering while I worked as an undergrad TA — I used this time to study for the LSAT. I took out less than $20k for my MS — but was now $160k in debt. I still was not able to crack the elusive T14, but I moved back in with my parents and attended Penn Law and because of my 1L GPA–I was finally able to transfer to gain admission to a T14 (NYU Law) at the end of my 1L year. If you don’t know anything about law–graduating from a T14 is pretty much required to get an associate offer in Big Law. Because of my GPA at NYU I was offered a summer associate position at a Big Law firm during the summer of both my 2L and 3L year. I was offered a job during OCI and was offered a job in Big Law before I graduated (provided that I pass NY Bar and Patent Bar.) I got my JD at 30 and had passed both the bar and patent bar easily (with patent thanks to my M.S.CEP) by the age of 31. I moved back in with my parents, while working as an associate in Big Law, but Big Law only pays $120k a year–by now I was at $260k in non-dischargeable student loan debt. So let me ask you this –what would you do if you only made $120k a year, had a contract with big law to bill 2450 hours a year where rent in the city would be $2200 for a 5th floor walkup (how fun leaving for work at 5:30am and returning home at 11:30 pm 6 days a week and walking up 4 flights of stairs) I would have to cough up an extra $600 or so if I wanted a space big enough for both a desk and a bed. Or an extra $1000 if I wanted an elevator. Or I could go back and live with my parents like most associates that work big law/ finance. Why would I be worried about where to bring girls home? What girls? Girls from law school (who understand) or girls in banking? They all understand. Everyone lives at home. Maybe not in flyover country–but my friends working in Big Law over in LA are the same way. Most of the ones working in Oil Big Law (Houston) got canned–but most of the people who went into Oil & Gas and took an Oil Big Law job. . . did so because they had free rent in Houston. In yout 20s there is no way that you: 1) have life all figured out 2) have a good career 3) are not living off of family money, and 4) live in a real city (LA or NYC.) I imagine that you can scrape by, live in flyover country, and work in some crap sub $100k a year job. But isn’t the point of this site trying to make something of yourself? I am on track to make junior partner in 8 years. When I receive my first $1mil partner bonus–that is when I will leave home. Once I am partner, I will only have to work 60 or so hours a week and should have a few hundred thousand saved up–and be debt free. If I can hit senior partner by the time I am 50–I should be making $3mil to $4mil annually. It is not much compared to some finance guys, but lawyers never retire and I will make at least $1mil for life as a stock holding partner–even after I no longer go to the office. By then I should have an apartment overlooking Central Park, a summer place in Cape Cod, and a winter condo down in Boca Raton. So what is your life goal? What is your retirement plan? Are you going to get there by continuing your path? Real wealth doesn’t come from scrimping and saving/ clipping coupons/ bringing your lunch to work/ not buying a Rolex/ or not spending so much at Starbucks. Real wealth involves building yourself up to where you have skills that pay better than 99.9999% of other people.
Attend a top 10 law school, intern at a law firm during each summers, get job at a top law firm on graduation, grind your ass off working 60-80 hour weeks for \~10 years, and make partner. It's the "14 year challenge" if you include a year prepping your ass off for LSAT. Source: I know partners
I remember when I took the LSAT I thought the graders would appreciate it if I didn't fill in so many bubbles.
Same here. Even got so far as to take the LSAT. I tell people I make money with my engineering degree but I use my philosophy degree all day every day. That or I yammer on about Thales and cornering the market on olive presses.
I’m not a pilot, but I graduated college in 2009. Job prospects were scarce. I was planning on going to law school so I took a minimum wage job as a paralegal at a solo practitioner’s office. The pay was insulting but at least I had an extra line to write on my law school applications. A lot of my friends couldn’t find a decent job for years after graduating. The New York Times wrote a piece on 2008/09 grads calling us the lost generation with studies showing that our income level will never be on par with those who graduated before or after the recession. I was in a fraternity, and most of my class and the class that graduated in 2008 never attended any alumni events because we were frankly embarrassed of our situations compared to the older and younger classes. I took that year after graduating college to study for the LSAT while working my minimum wage job, and was able to get a 98th percentile score on my second try. But because so many graduates were applying to law schools/grad schools at the time, I wasn’t able to get into a top tier school or get a lot of scholarships. It didn’t help that I had a pretty shitty undergrad GPA, but those scores would have placed me in a higher ranked school in other application years. I believe that 2010 was the biggest incoming class year of law students in the history of law schools in the US. Job prospects were pretty scarce for law school grads in 2013, but I was fortunate enough to leverage my connections to get jobs at small firms right after graduating. I eventually worked my way up to working for a midsize firm with decent pay and great quality of life. I’ve had 7 jobs since graduating college, and all but two of them were through friends, family, or other referrals. A lot of my successful friends who graduated in my class also got to where they are through networking and using their connections. I know that a random internet stranger’s advice to build relationships with successful, motivated, and/or smart people sounds cliché, but that’s honestly the best advice I can give to the younger people who are about to enter the workforce, besides working hard and not getting into any trouble.
Work, gonna work out, study for the LSAT
Medical school makes sense because you make that money back guaranteed and finding employment is also guaranteed. Even if you go into family general practice, the known lowest earned you’ll make $160k a year to start. A lot of other graduate programs are really tough to turn a profit on or certain people are going to graduate and not find jobs in a higher percentage you’d imagine. But yeah, all school is way too fucking expensive now and it has become almost criminal in my eyes. A lot of people lump their undergrad debt as their “grad achool” debt. I only paid $14000 or something for my undergrad degree so I was able to just pay it outright. Law school a semester could more than my entire undergrad degree. People who know they’re going to grad school and spend $50-$150k is insane and a really bad decision. I wish I could explain to every young person looking to go to school that the debt isn’t worth it if you’re moving onto grad school as the primary indicator of how you do are solely your GPA and your graduate degree program exam (MCAT, LSAT, GRE etc). Certain grad programs go so far as to not even give a shit what you major in, only your gpa, exam score — that’s it. And now they factor in race, but it’s not a primary factor. Anyways, I read what you saw and it made me feel like discussing something I’d read an article on today ironically.
I barely made it past the LSAT, but I’ve been the son of plaintiff’s attorney long enough to have picked up a thing or two about what motivates the side. Just because someone hasn’t died because their cyber truck left them stranded in the middle of Arizona doesn’t mean their accountability isn’t worth pursuing.
Keep studying for your LSAT maybe you will get into Phoenix University 
Publicly manifesting that I will continue my LSAT study grind to prove this sub is not completely idiotic. I will not let you down.
I went to Minnesota. It's not Yale, but it's a relatively prestigious school. Idk what we're ranked now but it's like 17 out of the 200 or so law schools. You would expect everyone there to be able to do standard things like make see both sides of an issue, understand nuance, do the jobs they were actually assigned right? Wrong. The amount of people at my school who were so blinded by their pre conceived political bias was absolutely unreal. When controversial supreme court decisions come out, nobody actually reads cases that come out from the supreme court, or bother to do legal analysis. Every law student thinks they know better than the judges deciding the cases. It's pathetic. The discourse is akin to what you'd see on r/politics. I doubt Yale is any different. Honestly it could be worse. We were 90th percentile LSAT scorers and already think we know everything. I can't imagine the 98th percentile scorers are any less arrogant or closed minded.
Why does this read like LSAT prep?
You must be more precise - i highlighted the words that will help you. This is the kind of stuff you should learn if you want to get an 800 on the verbal part of the SAT or a perfect score on the LSAT. you: "you say consumers won't pay more than 1,000 USD for a computer" me: The **general population** will not pay more than $1k for an entire pc you: (according to you) NVidea intends to abandon the consumer GPU market. Me: doesn't give a shit about low margin IC, or even low end stand-alone GPUS anymore - They are not abandoning the PC market - they are abandoning Integrated graphics/low-cost hardware. They are also shifting production to higher end hardware. That is not the same as abandoning their very lucrative graphics card business. Essentially, why make $50 integrated GPUS when you can make a single H100 sells for $35k+ Now, as to what's left of your points: Apple share of pc market - 14% - essentially the top portion of income earners that are financially able to spend $2,000+ on a computer. (Average mac price $1600) Average PC price $660 The vast majority (Think World, not just US - now consider how poor the world is - think they are all about iMacs or MacBook pros?) of pcs are priced as commodities. These are simply facts you can find with askjeeves. IF you are able to find facts that contradict my statements, I would love to hear them. Otherwise, in the style of my My Counsin Vinny: I'm finished with this one. Note: Note2: Phones are in fact very commodizted. you are correct. However, Apple is still managing to hold non-commodity like pricing margins. That's why they are worth nearly 3 Trillion dollars. How long will this last? I don't know. https://preview.redd.it/bnk2q1i8km0b1.png?width=789&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=8e8160f6301b62c0020aeb440e75cb91614ce28b
Just saw those test scores on chat gpt 4, we are so fk'n scewed. That thing getting near quarterfinalist ranks on the SAT, outscoring more than 80% on the LSAT. If you're not a top 20% human, you're already intellectually obsolete.
I work on AI professionally. Specifically neural networks and machine learning for financial fraud and risk detection. The problem is that chatGPT doesn't understand the data it's spitting back... it's collated and statistically filtered, which can generate decent output as long as the input is good, but it doesn't really process data using a true dynamic analysis, which is what most people think about when they think about intelligence. In fact, it's impossible for us to achieve this with modern hardware because modern state machines in common commercial use only support binary models due to switch design. The most complex common commercial switches have a third state, which is indeterminacy, basically. Organic and quantum computing might change this in the future, but those applications aren't mature except in specific niche areas. There's a difference between applying data and repeating it. chatGPT can pass an LSAT because it can easily find the answers to all of the questions in its index... it can't really dig much deeper aside from repeating whatever is in its source of data. It's tempting to say that people only do that, too, but it's not quite accurate. You can get close but you can't formulate true thought with code. There's a pretty big gap between passing an LSAT and being able to win a court case... or between describing the process of brain surgery and having someone actually apply the practice. One day it'll get close enough to get there... but for complex things like that it'll mostly be deployed in an assistance capacity, just like my AI doesn't explicitly replace fraud analysts in totality.
Wagyu ribeye, roasted vegetables. Baby brother scored a 171 on his LSAT we're celebrating.
LSAT isn't hard and it's a lot of logic questions and comparisons. I'm not surprised at that
It passed both the LSAT and MCAT, lol. Sure.
 how do they prove that? very high in the LSAT score, I see...
No. Ultra is humble bragging/downplaying the intensity. I have friends who studied and retook the exam for years to get their license. I have friends who passed on their first try, as well. I’ve also come across some testing savants: - a tax law professor who fell into a JD because he and his dad used to compete for bigger brain status by taking standardized tests to brag about who got the higher score. He aced the GMAT and LSAT to where he got a scholarship to grad/law school. - A guy who got passed over for a promotion at a fortune 100 (at least back then), so he quit, aced the GMAT, went to Harvard, and took a job at BCG, instead. - I commented above about an MD friend of mine who moonlit as a quant before going to med school. TL;DR- it’s not the hardest designation in the world, but it requires serious effort, focus, and prep to pass. Don’t take their tongue in cheek as gospel.
Yes that’s correct 3 jobs 3 years. I’m a fuck. But still popped off at all. Also i took the LSAT in my house fully timed with no studying before i started at Deloitte and scored consistently 174-177. Who cares. I literally was too antisocial to have a single reference other than my potheads friends which isn’t a real law school reference.
Next you're gonna tell us about your mensa level IQ? Photographic memories are bullshit, surprised you didnt remember that. I bet that when you type the letter h into his google it auto completes to "how to seem smart". Let's see some proof of this near perfect LSAT score
Until 2 months ago this idea wasn’t hatched. Nor does my life revolve around him lol. I’m also probably 20x more desirable a hire than you. 176 LSAT Google it pussy
>This is a travesty. The LSAT is the only way to ensure that law students are of sufficient intelligence. Without it, we will see an influx of idiots into our profession. This cannot be allowed to stand!
Oh no Bar Association [removing LSAT requirement for law school admission](https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/aba-votes-end-law-schools-lsat-requirement-not-until-2025-2022-11-18/), puts on lawyer intelligence
Now you know how I felt taking the LSAT.
LSAT was just a normal test. Anyone unable to do it shouldn't be able to do any "higher learning"
They are doing this because minorities statistically do worse on standardized testing. Therefore the LSAT was a barrier to minorities in law school. So instead of helping minorities break through the glass ceiling by getting them better education and study habits, we are gonna throw out the standards. Welcome to wokeism
I was looking for one but I've been pretty fried from working nights and studying for the LSAT. I'll send you a DM. It would be nice to talk to another vet about this stuff. It sucks man I didn't realize how alienating having a disability is until this crazy shit started happening.
You think because you know what a "stipulated judgment for specific performance" means that he's gonna buy Twitter for $52 a share? Let's wait and see, Mr. LSAT.
Bro it's really not that hard if you got born lucky which describes me and everyone around me. Went to good schools growing up. Killed every standardized test. Crushed the LSAT and go into a t10. Get decent grades. Do OCI. Land a job at a Big Law firm. $160k out of the gate and that was a decade ago. If you go straight through to law school after undergrad you graduate at 25. And what, do you think engineers and programmers don't exist or something? lol.
I got the lowest LSAT score in the history of Thomas Cooley
GOOD I HATE THE LSAT! Saturday morning at 8 am like who the f would do good on a test like that.
up 2k today so I can take the rest of the week off and focus on my LSAT. see you guys in a week!
shooting high for stanford/mit, and a bunch of ivies. Yeah, was studying with some friends that were preparing for LSAT. Them riddles are cheeks fr.. Good luck with your preparation my guy
Nope, you? Wanna go in a year, but practicing for the LSAT is terrible.
I’m about to take my LSAT let me know if I’m poor in a bit
Channeling my sad post breakup energy into creating myself a workout/pre LSAT studying pump up playlist drop your go to hype songs below:
Nothing in particular. If you're using the LSAT trainer you're already way ahead of most people who take it. Reviewing your practice tests is just as important as taking them. Go take 20+ practice tests and crush the real thing.
Damn, I used to teach LSAT prep like 15 years ago and I saw this post and instantly remembered this question from class.
LSAT trainer is fucking awesome, I wish I had discovered it earlier when I was studying.
Plenty of very successful attorneys have bombed the LSAT. But you're basically a retard if you don't put as much time as possible into maxing your score. A 165 vs a 170 can be the difference between 200k or 20k of law school debt.
Jeeezzz, Ive definitely lost some brain cells on this sub because the LSAT was cake for me when I took it. Fuck! A? Because no conclusion was drawn about apes?
LSAT is an acronym for TSLA. Bullish for earnings tomorrow.
Law School Admission Test (LSAT)
I assume a 180 LSAT is pretty tough
Studying HARD for any standardized tests. Rocking the LSAT changed my life!
With this logic no wonder you couldn’t crack 170 on the LSAT, LULZ
So the answer to my questions are as follows: 1. You haven't studied securities law but apparently have the ability to interpret and apply subsections of securities laws to specific situations. 2. You didn't take the LSAT 3. You greatly enjoy gay Porn featuring Elon faceswapped onto the actors? Did I get it all?
Three questions: 1. Where did you study Securities Law? 2. What LSAT score did you manage to pull off? 3. Was studying difficult with Daddy Elons testicles always dangling infront of your textbook?
Of course, but the possibility of even earning a quarter of that is enough to motivate me. I’ve got the LSAT score for the big law schools, just need to focus on GPA for the rest of undergrad, which is tough bc I’d be applying as a STEM major. Do you know how much patent lawyers make, by chance? Never got a good answer, basic research yields a range anywhere from $200-800k/yr.
IQ is trainable and people who have been through academia are more likely to have a high IQ by virtue of training it. There is also of course some funneling of people who have a natural inclination for IQ related thinking to academic pursuits, furthering the potential for a gap. Iirc the LSAT was almost an IQ test itself.
Damn nice catch. You probably should start tutoring MCAT/GMAT/LSAT.
I once had the experience of meeting a person who served on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. I was an exhausted graduate student heading to Princeton to meet up with a friend and deliver a speech to the Board of ETS on testing metrics and diversity (groan all you want-my goal is to find the smartest and those that have the most potential and if the metrics are flawed, that makes my job harder), they run the Toefl, GRE, LSAT, etc. ETS (Educational Testing Service Stock https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/2157820Z:NA) is headquartered near Princeton and use their conference facilities-basically moldy, stinky 1970s wood paneled huts--it is not as exotic as you think. I was (and still am a) poor, so it must have been between 1994 and roughly 2000. Someone networked me into a free ride from Newark, from whence the flights were cheapest. I arrived late, and twiddled my thumbs all night in Newark Airport, ghastly tired. A car and a driver came early in the morning with a dude in the back. I think I remember he was a little chatty, as I was exhausted and thrashed. My takeaway was that these guys have money to burn. Obviously, I was totally of the significance at the time and unimpressed. It was the nicest functional limo I have ever been in, in my life. He seemed habituated to that level of decadence. He was smart, but socially inept. I remember thinking it was work to have to ride with that turd and I shoulda just spent the money and taken the train to Grand Central, made the transfer and been done with it. It was excruciating suffering that cheerful fool in my tired state and being cordial. I simply didn't know his area of expertise and he assumed I should. LOL. I feel tired just thinking about that day. The world is very small. So are the people that run it.
He had the venture capital crowd completely on the hook until he mentioned Frederick was a goldfish . . . clearly the 'C' in Always Be Closing not a strong suit . . . any 4th grader with a bar passing LSAT score paralegal could have defended that lawsuit . . . imagine the tendies
Right and your some genius? People can say what they want but he’s atleast intelligent enough to get into Yale from undergrad in a working class household with no legacy and he then proceeded to go to Harvard Law which requires a very high LSAT and GPA. The LSAT is the closest thing to an IQ test you can get in collegiate standardized testing. He then choose to serve in military as a JAG instead of taking up a job in a big law which he could have easily done. How many lifetimes would that take you to achieve that?
Test wouldn't be hard to cheat on if it's all online unless they have an old guy watching my every move on zoom like on a LSAT
A 165 on the LSAT is both not hard and not needed. I haven’t looked at the stats in a long time, but 165 is around median entry score at most t14 schools, meaning lots of students did worse. You also don’t have to be top half of your class to get into biglaw from many t14s. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that engineering students have to do about as well as anyone to get their biglaw job.