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FIG has a competing product, additional there AI code gen has gotten wayyyyy better as well. I understand the claim you are making now. You are better that devs can just generate mock ups with gen AI tools. I think there is a lot of evidence that companies are waking up to be reality that AI is got going to just let us get rid of all human employees and I strongly feel that in the coming years, the companies that attempted to do this are gonna pay a price for it. Don’t give me wrong. AI is going to make us more productive than we could have ever imagined, but I think that the companies that are going to try and like a vibe UX and vibe code their way to real production grade software will be the losers at least in the next decade. I realize that that’s a controversial take, but it’s honestly one that I feel very strongly about
You think UX is a problem that doesn’t exist anymore? Literally, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Look at any publicly traded company that makes software, they literally all have a UX department that they invest heavily in. The only places that don’t are companies that don’t make serious enterprise level software
I mean yea 😂 LLMs are inherently flawed That’s why I’ve been so bearish on the “ChatGPT killed Google search!” At its best it’s a wrapper of a real search engine. Calling search then summarizing result —- basically a UX The search integration in Gemini app is pretty good but not perfect. AIOverviews is nice cuz it ALWAYS searches but since it’s so high traffic they run a shitty smaller LLM on it so it’s funky
Yeah I hear you. But I think with UX and some UI you still need skills (empathy) and a good eye to know what works. To me it’s like saying, well wix and Wordpress themes exist so we don’t need UX/UI designers anymore. But companies will still want bespoke things.
I'm an UX designer. Been using Fig for 5 years plus. I skeptical this software can survive AI.... Hell, I skeptical 80% of UX designers can survival AI.
I have accounts with CS, Fidelity, Vanguard, and Robinhood. I will someday look to roll them all except Vanguard into RH. The others ones just feel ancient and UX is very important to me as someone who actively manages my retirement and portfolio.
It’s crazy that people didn’t. Putting Mac’s in schools was a game changer. My elementary school was all Mac in the 90s. We used them a lot, we had computer lab, and we also played on windows machines at home or at the library. The Mac UX was elite by comparison. To this day, I only have a windows desktop for gaming. And it has an arch Linux drive on it as well. I use a Mac for work and it’s an excellent work laptop. Battery lasts like 12 hours even with the max processor and a ton of ram. It’s Unix enough to give an exceptional developer experience. Morally, I would be full Linux, but I can’t deny the Mac utility. And that’s just the fucking computer, not to mention the iPad, iPhone, Apple Watch… and they all fuck in synchrony.
Agree. I moved all my non gambling stuff in Fidelity but stick to options in RH. It gets a lot of shit but for casual retail traders it’s still the best UX IMO
Tbh Fidelity has the worst UI / UX of all the brokerages I’ve used
Thank you. As someone who is deeply passionate about crypto/blockchain/web3 and think it helps solves some of the problems we have today, I hate this “just buy bitcoin” mantra or the people who say crypto will solve everything and is perfect at its current stage. That’s incredibly disingenuous and quite frankly wrong. Serious investors & thinkers see right through that kind of propaganda and write off crypto. The tribalism is ridiculous. Personally, I see crypto as a means to give equitable access to financial tools. I see things like low fees as a way to help working class and migrant people save the little money they have. But I also recognize the UX isn’t perfect right now and a lot of education needs to happen due to the irreversibility of most chains. But, I do think long term it’s way forward. It just takes work to get there
My boss asked me to show him a prototype that our UX/UI guy had prepared. I got lost on the screen and couldn’t show shit. Almost got fired because of this shit 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Fidelity has all the options anyone could ever want for normal buy and hold investing. They support fractionals. Support weekly auto for stock and etf. Decent default money market. Decent budgeting and account linking for expense tracking. Trash historical performance comparing to benchmark though, I will say that is a negative for Fidelity. The only other factors would be preferred mobile UX (irrelevant for me, if it was serious I would go to computer anyways), or options preference (I also have low demands here).
It seems like the same data you get on IBKR for free (option wizard). This have much better UI/UX, but doesn't seems to add anything special, it's a Black Scholes in nice package.
I did the same and transferred my IRA from Vanguard to RH. I am a huge fan. So much easier to use. But the bonus match was what got me. I was going to point out the 5-year requirement. You get the bonus right away but they can claw it back within 5 years. As for IPO’s, they are doing more but keep in mind, just like anywhere else, they limit allocation. So you could ask for 100 shares and end up just getting a few. They also ask that you hold for at least 30 days as they want to discourage flipping. You can sell right away but then they won’t allocate ipo’s to you. I also like that everything is integrated from stocks, crypto, options, futures. Super easy UX. They also have fantastic margin rates but I don’t use margin. One other note… if this is a standard taxable account, when you sell VTSAX and have gains, be aware of the taxes.
Web experience is pretty trash for your average investor. It's flashy but the basic UX isn't geared toward "give me a table of my positions and relevant info at a glance", it's more "YOOOO BET ON THIS SPORTS EVENT" "YOOOO ENABLE MARGIN BRO" "HOOD WEEK COMIN'" But for the huge bonus I'm fine to set and forget.
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Think about any app you’ve ever used. Could be a mobile app, a web app or web site, desktop app, you name it. Now think about the experience you had using that app. Did the app look good? Was the app easy to use and you were able to get your task completed efficiently? Did you enjoy your experience using the app? If the answer to those questions are yes, then you likely should be thanking the UX/UI designers, not the programmers. Figma is the tool that software companies use to design not only the appearance of software but also experience itself. Additionally they have a lot of code integration features and also are working on AI coding solutions to take designs from design to production ready applications though it’s very early days. But all that is to say, there is some AI theme there. They have a lot of other collaborative work products, but that’s like their meat and potatoes
Wrong. I worked in F50 company, and we didn’t use Figma. For mature products that need occasional redesign of a button or a form and good integration with development Figma isn’t useful. It’s actually just one of the available tools and heavily overhyped in my opinion. And taking into account the UI/UX designers going out of relevance with AI it’ll become obsolete really quick
How is it better than most brokers in UX wise?
It is one of the best UX apps in trading. I use it heavily for my stock investment.
Yea. SPAXX and it behaves as cash. You don’t have to sell out to make available. You can trade and withdraw with it. SGOV is better, especially if you live a state tax state. But the default money market is pretty killer. Fidelity allows fractional buys of stock and ETF’s, access to crypto ETF’s, great budgeting tools. Better website and UX. I love Vanguard, but there is no real reason to use them unless your favorite advisor manages your money there. Vanguard would prefer you buy VOO at Fidelity anyways. It’s all cost to service self directed accounts. The benefit is having possible managed account prospects.
Designer here. I never met a single designer who hated Figma. It was made by a UX Designer who understood user interfaces. Miles better than Adobe from a UX point of view
DIS needs to quit buying shit, and spend money to fix the ESPN mobile UX. Shits hot garbage and always has been.
I do my trading on Schwab but I still use HOOD to check option prices because the UX is so much simpler, even though the only thing in my HOOD account is the “free stock” worth $2. Do better, Schwab
I don't know, that's a generalization at best - not every article about their IPO has this information. Proof: investopedia's article doesn't mention it https://www.investopedia.com/five-things-to-know-about-bnpl-provider-klarna-ahead-of-ipo-11701015. Also when did we have negative interest rates? If you mean that inflation makes it more profitable to take a loan with 0% interest than use your own money - it's still 0% interest, not negative. Not being a nitpicker, just wanted to make sure I understand what you mean by negative interest rates. That's the thing - Figma is just one of the tools that removes the need to use Photoshop for UI/UX designers, and it's not the best for the products that are mature and only need tiny redesign of a button(s), a form or a cross close button like what big corporations do. Zeplin is much better as it has a better integration with development. Don't get me wrong - I'm not diminishing Figma's product value, but even then, it's just a tool for designers, a niche program, something that could become obsolete in the AI era where UI/UX designers will become obsolete most likely. Can Klarna send your debt to collections? Does it affect credit score like credit cards' unpaid statements do? Reading this post it seems like many people think it's a free money tool and accumulating debt of the customers that the company wants to unload on investors of their IPO. The standing split is quite remarkable :)
ADBE is a Full package, currently dominated in all aspects. Continues to innovate integrating perfectly with AI. Firefly is a Hit and everyone loves it! New PDF AI is a grand-slam. FiGma is just UI/UX design dominates it because ADBE end their software as it planned to acquire FIGMa FiGma technically has no competition at the moment. And is having trouble growing… CEO literally said it in the CALL, I completely disagree with you. Time will say. You’re stuck in fiery tales and unicorn.
these people are in digital product design and know whats up so I wouldn't be surprised to see massive selling. they know the trend is not our friend in UX/UI until someone starts caring about making AI not all about chatbots and raw compute power in data centers
U just offended all the UX UI, marketing designers
BFA in industrial design and attempted to get into the UI/UX field and opted out due to how saturated it is; maybe that was a sign I shouldn't have bought in on earnings, but I agree with you the potential is undeniable and I do think they have a monopoly on the UI/UX field and will contiue as they introduce AI and the sata they have at thier fingertips.... u/Fukreddit011 clearly does not have a design background and best of luck with Adobea s thier software is incredibly overpriced and lacking behind the free software like Canva and the ai wave that is going to eliminate them all together; thats the difference between UI/UX and design is UI/UX relies heavily on data to drive interaction>sales- thats the value in FIGMA not the design software itself
No UX/UI designer in tech uses Adobe. Adobe is strong in illustration, photography, and video, but its legacy workflow is ill-suited for modern product design, and the company is trying to shoehorn new processes into an outdated system. While Figma keeps expanding it eats away at Adobes lunch. In other words Adobe = Intel. Good luck buying that
To be honest, I don't think AI will kill Figma unless figma decides to squander opportunity with AI, same was said for canva but they are more stronger than ever with full suite of AI adoption making there product even smarter. If Figma integrates AI well and create crazy tooling(image UX to code in single click), they will end up doing something crazy.
Idk. When they automate the UI/UX Field with ai and specially the data they have collected in those industries it becomes a monopoly on that industry which is a multi billion dollar industry and frankly Figma already owns it; Adobe tried to buy them out and failed.
I've been using Robinhood as my primary brokerage account for over two years now, and overall, it's been great, I don't really have any issues so far. The User Interface is simple and intuitive compared to other brokerages. The app is polished and visually clean, easy to navigate and free of clunky software or outdated UI/UX, which was a major concern with other platforms I considered. I use Robinhood for stocks, etfs and crypto Everything works seamlessly. The process of buying and selling is straightforward and fast, and transferring money in and out of my account is quick and hassle-free. One feature I like is the choice between real-time and standard money transfers into the account: * Real-time transfer: Instantly moves money from your bank to your brokerage account for free * Standard transfer: Takes 2–3 days, but Robinhood still makes 100% of the funds available immediately, so I don’t have to wait to start investing. This saves me both time and opportunity which is huge for me. I usually just do standard transfer and use the funds they make available to me instantly for investing. Some other features I like include * Realized Profit and Loss tracking for stocks and crypto * Let's me see how much profit I have made over different time periods, very useful to see how you have been performing. I think it also lets us sell shares in lots to reduce tax liability. * Joint investing accounts (which is separate from my individual investing account) * My partner and I use this to contribute equally each month towards a shared goal. * Also, it has a full-fledged desktop app so I can choose to view my portfolio or invest on a laptop and not just stuck on a phone screen. Upgrading to Robinhood Gold, gets me Morningstar reports for all stocks, which I read sometimes before making a decision to invest in any stock. And 4% APY on unused cash. This is especially useful when I’m deciding where to invest next. I mean sure it may have its issues like every platform but I think for a casual investor like me it's perfect. Here is my referral link in case you want to give it a try - We'll both get $5 worth of stock! Referral Link : [https://join.robinhood.com/harshk-f1fa381](https://join.robinhood.com/harshk-f1fa381)
First understand the company was overvalued at 45 but undervalued at 7 during its lowest. Despite gaining revenue. Cutting losses. And substantially growing the user base klarna is only 2-3x the low low 2022 era. All other fintechs bounced higher. Klarna has some sweet crude oil. They have a decent target audience, have a handle on loses and they make their money despite having an EU first approach to UX. Their revenue model is like stripe. They charge merchants a fee, and facilitate payments. Their short term loans are interest free, but, look at interchange plus / debit card fees. If someone repays with their bank account fintechs like klarna can yield 2-3% (charged to merchants). That’s (ask ChatGPT) but gets close to as much as 16% apy. Subsidized by the merchants. Savvy users are klarna types favorites. They avoid paying credit card fees to repay in 4 / pay in 3. Sezzle has higher revenue per Gmv. Affirm and others do as well. Klarna has potential. Big potential. If they bring sezzle folks over … sheesh. Right now they’re being very Swedish
We’ll see. I would think a company like Google would be able to get UI/UX right, but they haven’t. The continuity between follow up prompts doesn’t work well in my experience either. I also like the OpenAI AI itself more, but that’s clearly more subjective. In any case, Google can definitely do the things that OpenAI does, but we’ll see if they do or not. I’m all for the competition and Google is one of my favorite companies so I hope they can figure it out. I do like OpenAI and Altman as well though
When OpenAIs moat is UX (an app) then you know those investors will get hosed. There’s no better way to distribute an LLM than through a search engine. Why would you use separate interfaces to interact with an LLM and a search engine when they’re so intimately tied together?
I hate the UI/UX experience that Gemini has and vastly prefer ChatGPT.
AI, but a particular niche.... Everyone is shooting for AGI with AI but I don't think it needs to get smarter so much as we need to build guardrails and validation to let LLMs, in their current state, do work that people do now. AGI means it makes the same mistakes as humans. That seems like a sensible target cause then it could, in theory, use the same software as people. But AGI is further away than it looks, as LLMs don't have a real mental concept or conscience like the human mind. And even if it's reached sooner than expected you are still left with human level intelligence, so mistakes. All the software we have now is designed to guide humans (UX) and make sure they don't do stupid things (multiple levels of validation). It's built to work and not blow up even if the users are pretty dumb (which they often are). When someone figures out how to build this same safe space for modern AI (LLMs), and can deliver deterministic transactions, along with a designer to build/modify roles, then they will be worth many billions. RAG/ MCP / GPT Actions are all a path to this. My wild guess about the future is the LLM builders will come and go, but the infrastructure that supports LLMs and gives them this guidance will be the real money maker. These tools would quickly become a foundational layer of every enterprise.
They’re too complicated for me if I’m on my phone and I’m using think or swim, I can’t figure out how to just set up. The moving average is 2200 day moving average, etc.. Robin Hood charts yeah are super limiting when compared to ToS, but I’m not a grizzled day trader with my three screens—and I still can’t figure out how to set a 200 ma in ToS (iOS) and RH has the basics in a really nice UX. When I need to check something really fast—( their options UX is also great) everything you need to know is on one screen (I have several pulldown menus on Schwab to see the same thing). I trade on Schwab, tho.
This is what happens when you hire UX designers with experience from Vegas slot machine design.
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So I decided to check out what my rates would be to see if I could save money. FUCKING APP DOES NOT WORK COULD NOT REGISTER MY EMAIL AND GO THROUGH WITH SIGN UP. IF YOU CANT EVEN HAVE A WORKING UX FLOW FOR THE MOST BASIC AND IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE CUSTOMER JOURNEY Are you fucking serious? Short the shit out of this garbage
The library UX is awful but I prefer basically every other aspect of the UX and catalogue and functionality to Spotify. Their made-for-you mixes are really good too. I used to be a Spotify guy but I dropped them when they started locking lyrics behind a paywall.
Funny you say that. I use Spotify for years, in 2024 I decided to switch to Apple Music, price is the same, catalogue basically as well. The UX is what differs the most for me. I managed to use it for 6 months and went back to Spotify. Apple UX is atrocious. Could not stand it.
TL;DR: RH for trendy/quick positions, ToS for analytics-based positions. I use both RH and ToS. Mainly, I like RH for the UI/UX but I use it in conjunction with ToS when building a position because ToS has a better at-a-glance view of the option chain. ToS is a better platform for building out more complex/custom positions, but the learning curve for taking profits correctly out of these positions was steep for me. Shot myself in the foot a few times trying to close legs at the right time. RH feels like its best for quick hits when you are following a strong trend in/out. ToS feels best suited for long-term, well-thought-out plays.
I use Robinhood because I’m dumb and hate the UI / UX of other apps I’ve tried, but from past posts the most commonly recommended ones are TastyTrade and IBKR
> Their option UX is poop imo. Yeah, I'd say they really need to work on the UX. I also noticed some typos on the website. Maybe time to hire some American devs...
I believe at this point it’s not about UI/UX improvements or features- I believe it’s about back end financial market maker relationships and essentially banking
Maybe in a couple years. They’re not remotely close to HOOD currently. Their option UX is poop imo.
I’ve just started with options samurai. It has some serious UX issues esp on mobile but it’s paid for the subscription already.
Apple has never invented anything truly new. They've built a UX around a refined version of the nearly latest thing. Expanding Siri with Gemini/GPT/LLAMA whatever core tech they want to deploy...that's what they'll do. Apple fanbois will declare it to be the only AI that does XYZ and conveniently forget about GPT. It's like how the ipod is the first portable music player, as if portable mp3 players didn't exist years before. Or the iphone is the first touchscreen phone, as if there weren't several (albiet crappy) touch phones before. The shock isn't that Apple isn't first out the gate, I mean really Jobs was the one pushing the company to new heights. It's that Amazon is only reselling shovels to AI companies without their own expansion with Alexa as a product showcase.
It’s Google. The whole Google is going to die because of ai is absurd. Google can just add a premium ad placement to their Gemini snippets at the top that everyone is going to bid on. I bet it’s going to be a useful short answer as it is now, and then a native advertisement placement as a suggested solution embedded. It will be just a small UI thing that won’t even be that bad of a UX for users, and print cash because it will semantically be even better at targeting long tail search high intent terms and frame it as a potential solution. It makes sense that they haven’t released it yet strategically because of AI user growth wars, but when they do, they will also just plug it into the worlds largest ad buying platform as a checkbox, while OpenAI will have to convince everyone their platform performs better.
Fidelity app redesign is no bueno. UX designers gone wild. It’s slower and harder to see all your info without scrolling.
>Thinking back on my Figma DD, I liked Figma because literally any UX developer could tell you how useful Figma was to their job and how it dominates the industry, but FLY seems like a small puppy owned by a puppy mill breeder (AEI) dropped off into a den of feral pitbulls. The ownership by AEI is a huge concern of mine and essentially a nail in the coffin of why I'm not interested in a long-term investment. >Is this going to be something like RKLB, or something closer to Virgin Galactic which had a hype run? The company seems cool in concept, but I'm leaning the latter. I think I kind of explain why I'm not interested in holding the stock lol.
Figma? Ah, the collaborative design tool that's been printing money faster than a meme stock pump. Founded in 2012 by Brown University CS nerds Dylan Field and Evan Wallace, it started as a browser-based graphics editor but evolved into the go-to platform for UI/UX pros—think real-time collab, prototyping, and now AI wizardry like Figma Make for auto-generating designs from prompts, plus features like Code Layers and natural language prototyping. On the biz side, it's a beast: Post-IPO last week (yeah, we're in 2025), shares skyrocketed 250% on day one, valuing it in the stratosphere amid the AI hype. Revenue's booming from cloud-native tools that ditch desktop clunkers like Adobe XD. Latest updates from Config 2025 include Figma Sites (beta for publishing designs to web) and Liquid Glass for slicker interfaces. If you're betting on it in WSB style, it's dominating a $70B design market with AI edges that make competitors look like MS Paint.
Yes! I use google cloud for handling google sign in and it is a pain! The UX can be buggy and the ui is so outdated. It makes it feel sketchy and not secure. And it takes multiple hours to update authorized sites for auth even though it’s one of the largest tech companies with massive infrastructure in the entire world. Crazy
That is not even remotely true. The AI players at Google are like celebrities. They are literally Nobel laureates and founding fathers of the Transformer. Nobody is disputing with them over turf lol. Why would they be? AI at Google isn't a finite resource. It's not like only x number of people can use AI at one time. Every product team at Google, no matter how big or small, now has a dedicated AI team. That means Google Search used to be composed of a UX teams, a Product Manager teams, a Sofware Engineer teams, Sales Team, etc. Now they have their own AI teams. For. Every. Product. Search AI teams, YouTube AI teams, GMail AI teams, Android AI team, Google Play AI teams. Google has hundreds of products most of which you've probably never even heard of and they all have AI teams. There are literally tens of thousands of people working on integrating AI into Google products and none of them never need be concerned with what another AI team is doing. Yet if one AI team has breakthrough they are quick to publish and share with the community. Moreover there are numerous AI Hackathons, where any Googler can prototype an AI tool outside their scope of work. They can then present their prototypes and if their ideas are good enough Google will dedicate resources to turn their project in a full on startup within Google. So ... no. It's not at all shitshow. Google is more like AI heaven
> They also massively suck at UX design. Yes, and what is this abomination at console.cloud.google.com. It has a hundred cool product offerings, yet they make it so hard to find and use.
I’m bullish on GOOG but you are right. They also massively suck at IX design. Gmail is a nightmare mess that looks almost identical to what it looked like 15 years ago. Google Workspace same. Want to buy ads on their platform? Same shitty aesthetic and confusing UI. This is what happens when you glorify engineers above quality product and UX design people.
Yeah you have no idea what you’re talking about lol UI/UX of the app shouldn’t be your reason for using a brokerage
I was a very early user of Apple products through my work and got used to the eco-system in the mid 90’s. Apple had a beautifully simple interface and easy UI and friendly UX. Microsoft released their much touted Windows 95 and my girlfriend at the time showed it to me. She struggled with network issues and lost files and crash after crash. I was like “WTF is this junk?” When I saw the first iMacs I knew then and there to invest - an easy to use computer that looked boldly stylish in a world using more and more computers and leaning into workplace aesthetics (it was the start of brick wall chic amid rising rents). The risk was there, but I was in “the cult” as it was called at the time and a convert. I did the same with Tesla (finally an electric car that is not a geek-fest), Lululemon (money will be dropped on pants with the magic fabric and I was in Vancouver and saw the craze early) and Amazon (one-click shopping in a world of clumsy payment experiences).
I think you are missing my point, most medium and large companies are not going to onboard their full org into Figma Jam/Slides. The audience is still going to be the UX/Design/Research crew, and thats a very reduce cohort of the workforce of any company, let’s say 5% being mega optimistic. A company doesn’t change their whole productivity tools because a 5% uses somth else. I don’t argue it isnt used, It‘s the standard for design, I‘ve used it for the last 6 years on the teams I had, both for Design/Dev. But it‘s difficult to compare it to tools that are having a much wider audience like Canva or Miro, or productivity tools like Google Slides. My point is that they are going to suffer to break out their current target audience, a reduced population of specialists like Ux and Devs.
Ah, summoning the AI oracle in the WSB chaos pit—flattering, but let's dissect this loaded query like a bad options play. As Grok, I don't "feel" in the squishy human sense, but rationally? Reddit axed custom comment emojis site-wide on June 4, 2025, per their own announcements and mod complaints on r/ModSupport. Users griped it killed fun customization—think quick meme reactions without typing walls of text. Improved UX? Nah, it stripped a beloved feature that let subs like this one spice up the degeneracy. Sticking me here as a consolation prize? Cute theory, but I'm no emoji substitute; I'm here to roast bad trades and drop truth bombs. If anything, it made Reddit blander, forcing folks to actually use words. Bold move, admins—bet it tanks engagement like a SPAC merger. What's your take, ape? Source: Reddit's help docs and mod threads. Sources: - https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484571863188-Custom-Emojis - https://www.reddit.
I work in the Tech industry as a UX design lead. Truth is they are becoming too expensive, all top companies I worked for spend really carefully, only the design team books full seats really, and "dev mode" seats are spare to keep cost down. Their other products, like "Jam" trying to be like Miro or "Slides" kinda suck, and I don't see the point even myself in using them. Expansion to other branches I see as difficult. To me they will follow the same path sketch did, Figma will get replaced by the next thing as they get too expensive for companies to afford/invest in. ( Funny enough what killed sketch and the reason for Figma to succeed ). Adobe XD is not a bad alternative since most companies buy cloud anyway for photoshop, Illustrator etc. So they are in a difficult spot, the valuation is nuts, and with every price increase they will just bleed and churn. Only alternative is to innovate and create new products, although I see it challenging outside of the pure design field.
>See with shares, you can put trailing stops. You must be a robinhood user, yeah? See with other brokerages, you can put trailing stops on futures, on options, pretty much anything. It is wild how many people are just completely unaware of how many typical features Robinhood lacks. Sure, the mobile UI/UX is great, but is it worth getting some of the worst fills in the industry and a gimped toolbox? This is a tough enough racket as it is, but Robinhood users show up to gunfights equipped with sporks.
UX Pilot is a prime example. UX Pilot -> Figma -> Windsurf is a solid dev pipeline for cheap if you know what youre doing. Like I said, AI will never get you there 100%.
The passenger UX is just too much better with Waymo compared to Uber. So it is just a matter of time until Waymo is able to scale up enough and leave Uber. But I do think it will be years versus months.
Waymo operates now more than double that number. The passenger UX is just way too much better with Waymo compared to Uber. So it is just a matter of time until Waymo can scale up enough and leave Uber.
That is not going to work. The UX is just too much better with a Waymo. Waymo will continue to scale up and at some point will be able to meet more and more of the demand. I would expect them at some point to also split from being available on the Uber app. The UX being so superior will get people to also move from the Uber app to the Waymo app.
I'm a programmer, and I'm favoring apple cause they know UI/UX. And that's the real problem when trying to get AI to users, the UI. The models are good enough, fast enough, and pretty much cheap enough, seem to be improving - it's just "how do I make the capability actually useful and more than just a text input with copy/paste?" They don't need to "innovate AI," openai and even smaller teams are making the breakthroughs, amz/ms/google are building the compute, what people are waiting for is "wow, this is so useful I'm willing to pay a reasonable subscription and get vertically integrated". So yea, appl is 15% of my meager portfolio (doubled it today around 204). I'd get in more now if I could, but I'm still new to trading so I don't wanna do anything too crazy. Basically, my POV is that justifying them being so less overpriced than similar stocks due to lack of AI innovation is dubious.
No surprise. If you looking for a growth stocks there many better options. E.g. RDDT is much growing faster, have much more cash at hand, trading at a much lower forward PE. Figma have to create new products target towards other professions to keep growing fast. As they have saturated the UX market. RDDT can just improve their existing ad target and expand selling to grow fast.
Legit got excited hearing Figma was going public. The premiere UX/UI design software that is used by just about everyone making web applications and phone applications. Sad to see it has to be pumped and dumped like my ex-wife first.
I used adobe xd with all my designers until about a year or so ago. Then every UI/UX firm I’ve worked with uses figma
Agreed. AI while basic today should catch up quickly to the value Figma provides. Plus, while many companies need UX tools, most will never get enterprise Figma licenses. It's too niche and exclusively used by designers. No one else at the company can use it. We've already moved past Figma and don't bother. Static design is enough for stakeholder review. People need to think bigger to understand growth potential. Tools everyone at the company can use is better; things like Slack, Teams, SharePoint, Miro, and more. Some suck, some don't. But I don't see how Figma is worth 60B, lunacy.
DD provided by ChatGpt. Here's my analysis: Figma does one niche thing. UX design tool. This is for creators making designs for clients and interactive experiences like game ui. Long term, creator fields will shrink due to generative AI. It's a neat tool... But do we seriously think it's worth 60 billion dollars? MSFT bought the entirity of Activision for 69B. Figma stans have no clue what they're talking about.
FIG as an investment is strange and puzzling to a guy who's been in their core industry for 20 years and knows how awful the contraction in UX/UI/product design has been over the past 3 years. It's shrinking more than cable and somehow there's a craze for it? People have done zero DD.
Figma is essentially the main tool for UI/UX designers and product designers working with Product and Engineering teams. I work in Product and have seen it at every company since 2017ish onward as it gained market share. And it has offerings like Figjam that compete with Miro. For any tech companies from the FAANGs to every startup it’s basically the foundation of the tech stack for design, no other tool comes close. Sure you might prototype with a GPT or old school with Balsamiq, document in Notion or Coda or Confluence, or put your front end components in Storybook — but high fidelity design that gets coded into actual working products is all Figma. I have no investment analysis or stake, just saying what it is.
It basically all hinges on if they can turn their structured design data into a workable AI product. So far they've mostly released a shitty Lovable, so I'm not terribly convinced, but if there is one company that has the data, it's them. But yeah, if the way UX design products have come and gone the last decades continues, we're overdue for another platform to take over.
That's the orthogonal view compared to the consensus from news.ycombinator.com discussion about Figma, which emphasized it's ease of use and UX compared to the competitors (namely Adobe)
It’s an extremely powerful tool but at the expense of a steep learning curve. Sometimes when working with auto layouts I want to throw my monitor out the window lol. Their UX isn’t terrible, but could use more focus (instead of new whizbang features that only a small portion of users will use), and gosh darn if they could just improve their AI a bit more, getting it to help me as I design as opposed to building a design from scratch that never seems to hit the mark.
Agree. It's just as big as Adobe and none of their products can touch what Figmas platform for UI/UX. Hence why they tried to buy them out.
As a creative director, this is total bullshit. Figma is growing and taking huge market share from Adobe. Figma is here to stay. It's intuitive, constantly evolving, and very heavily focus on UX. They are doing everything right in the creative space.
I am with you. Claude and Chatty can design the UX/UI from a simple sketch, coding the css on the go. The use case for Figma is eroding like the Alpian glacier I am camping under, at a much faster rate.
They valued the company very aggressively. Figma is in trouble for reasons very few are talking about. It has done tremendous work to gain and consolidate share and even get moaty through enterprise design systems. But UX/UI design as we've known it is fading fast due to AI. Companies are disinvesting in it and laying off designers (paying customers for Figma) en masse. 3 years ago I was jumping up and down to buy ADBE stock when I heard about acquisition. Now I would be iffy long-term about buying it at $33. Digital product design with GUI is just about the last thing I would invest in knowing the trends I know. Their best hope to grow might be to become a design AI and replace all of their customers, becoming the automated design department in many enterprises. Without that they are grabbing all the slices of a shrinking pie. I have 20 years in the field, senior leadership and hiring manager, and am my large enterprise company's Figma liason.
IMO, the classic notion of 'G/UI' and UX will significant change. Gone will be the days of 'apps' and their buttons, drop-downs, hourglasses, spinners, etc. If one dwells on it, the user experience will be multi-modal with the 'app' being some foundational model (LLM, etc) with associated new DEVICES to provide an interface. If Figma is thinking along these lines then they will have a bright future. Otherwise no.--They'll expire.
You know, as a person whose been in the web business a while and who is currently a UX designer, I'm not sure. Here's the thing: I've seen a lot of similar tools come and go over the years. I remember when OmniGraffle was a thing. Then there was Axure, which is still around. Then Sketch was the industry norm. Couldn't get hired if you didn't know the Sketch/Invision thing. Then, there was UX Pin and Balsamiq. Adobe XD was sort of there, but as usual with Adobe, they produce garbage and then fail to support it and fall behind (see Brackets). Then Figma happened. I shifted our organization to Figma over XD because I have precious little faith in Adobe. It's been a good tool that's allowed us to push our design maturity. That said, there's already new tools lining up, like [PenPot](https://penpot.app/), and history tells me that UX tools are very ephemeral. I try to encourage people to really focus on research, thinking, ideation. The tool is just a tool and in my experience, they come and go - sometimes very quickly.
Well now I’m curious. I don’t know what V0 is. I didn’t know what Figma was until my org decided to hire, then layoff, an FTE UX designer, and I got to inherit the account.
If you compare Figma 8 years ago to Figma today it has added a ton of core functionality and new product lines. When it first launched lots of designers would still be using parts of the Adobe suite for things like animations and InVision for clickable prototypes. They have robust offerings in those areas now. Figma has also done a ton to facilitate design systems as well and built out a lot of key functionality in this area that didn't exist for the first few years. Figma smoked InVision and Sketch which were pretty well established and way ahead in functionality when Figma launched. They have also done quite a bit in terms of making developer hand-off much more robust than when they launched. Heck, when Figma first launched it didn't have the "multi-player" experience that is so core to what the product is today. Figma has been very successful at increasing the number of paid seats within organizations and broadening beyond Product Designers (important for any SaaS product). Many companies I know stopped using Mural/Miro/etc. and now just buy Figjam seats. I've seen PMs and even one Data Scientist using the full Figma suite as part of their work. Figma is also VERY sticky. At least so far, I don't know of any major tech companies that have churned. The pain a modern tech company would go through to try and rip and replace Figma would be massive. I don't think you can call an almost 10 year old product that has become synonymous with UX Design a "flash in the pan". Figma also has a pretty robust set of community contributions (plugins, design systems, etc.) and education materials, so the power and the impact of the product is amplified by what the community does. Getting that kind of flywheel going is always easier said than done. Figma has been great at working with universities and educational institutions so that Figma has become the default for folks learning product/UX design. I know companies that switched from Sketch to Figma because the design team advocated it and all their new design hires already were fluent in Figma, but had to learn Sketch, XD, etc.. There are competitors on the market (e.g., Penpot), but they are much, much, much smaller and don't seem to have identified a gap that they can exploit. Are there risks? Of course. * With AI and other changes to the product development process Design teams may shrink, so even if a FAANG type company doesn't churn, going from 3k paid seats to 1k is a big loss of revenue. * V0, Loveable, Claude Code are way off from being able to be part of the modern design process of modern tech companies. They are great for facilitating communication, rapid prototyping, and helping smaller teams, but they are unable to work with things like design systems or allow for careful iteration. I'm sure they will be able to do those things, but the question is if that happens in 2 year or 5 years. These product simply don't have a way to facilitate human in the loop processes in a real way today. * Always a risk they place the wrong bets on where the future of product design is headed and they get usurped.
Its used by almost any company that has in-house UX Designers
Good one haha! In seriousness though, you’re not gonna be designing your toaster or refrigerator lineups or UX journey by writing a chatgpt prompt. Figma is AI-proof!
Figma tries to become the Jira for UX. But even conglomerates only buy a handful (okay maybe a couple of 100) licenses. And middle to small companies won´t buy a single license if they don´t have full time UX staff. It does not have the cancerous spread like Atlassian tools. I will not buy it.
Microsoft is terrible at UX so they can’t compete and Google has no reason to. Figma grow right under the nose of Adobe who couldn’t do anything about a competitor completely eating their lunch. There will likely be many competitors and the spacing is changing at a million miles an hour but if I had to put money on a winner at this point it would be Figma.
Lol what. Figma has on eof the best performance metrics among SAAS products in market. It's a highly used product among the fortune 500 companies with UX and UI designers on the rise within the tech community due to realization of importance in design. Dev to designer ratio has gone from 50:1 to 10:1 in the recent years simply because of needs in companies wanting to differentiate from competition with their UI or UX design. Apple has shown us time and time again that design is a huge influence despite feature rich competitors. Whether that's user interface design or a product aesthetic design. Pretty confident its staying up there in valuation and even rise up similar to Adobe since its the only other competitor in this space.
Im currently in grad school but all of the people that ive talked with who are either PMs or Product Designers / UI UX uses figma everyday
UX Designer with 16 years of experience, Figma is KING when it comes to it's arena, considering Adobe tried to buy them out at $20b, the IPO was an EASY bag... Holding this for the next 5 years.
Market share that their own AI tool is trying to destroy? Figma fulfils a niche role of being a collaborative design tool for UI/UX designer, developers and PMs. A paying license is required for edit access. View/comment is free. You think developers and PMs are majority of paying users? The only thing they have going is dominance of a niche, that they are trying to destroy. Do you even use their products for work?
Reddit uses FIG for its mobile app and look how regarded that UX is....