TSLA

Super-Conflict-6404

how are my TSLA 427.5C looking boys?

freebytes

I put money into INTC because I thought it was an actual good investment. It was valued appropriately based on their plans and potential future success. They are also important to American interests. I am not saying you could have guessed about INTC. I am saying that it is different from the other zombie companies that should have already collapsed by now. Companies like TSLA and MSTR are completely overvalued, and I feel like we are living in a fraud economy. Musk will lie to investors constantly, and he is able to get away with it. After all, he can just buy a pardon if he is ever caught.

freebytes

That is dangerous, though. Look at Tesla. It has no fundamentals, but it is propped up by retirement accounts. We have zombie companies that are allowed to continue to exist due to our broken market. There are bets against such stocks that are not as dangerous as shorts. For example, if you wanted to bet against TSLA, you can invest TSLZ which gives you an in and out speculative action against the stock. However, there is also CRSH which uses an income strategy to bet against TSLZ without the risk to the individual retail investor.

MasterDave

I'm just hoping that it has a network effect that juices TSLA enough to make me want to finally ditch my last shares.

neverturndownagain

TSLA already at 435 on weeknd trading 450 Open by Tuesday

mmmfritz

A lot of these growth stocks are extremely expensive. Is a part of the top 100 companies not volatile by nature? I make solid rocket motors as an aero grad. I’d rather rocket lab or spacex over TSLA at this point.

AyumiHikaru

I can't wait to see people short TSLA and SpaceX at the same time. LOL

AyumiHikaru

I can't wait to see people short TSLA and SpaceX at the same time. LOL

InitialPsychology731

Float weighted SPCX isn't too bad. TSLA is shitty though.

Delicious_Stomach278

Lol TSLA already at 456 and META at 658

Delicious_Stomach278

Lol TSLA already at 456 and META at 658

Specialist_Exam_8433

Total scam market forcing passive 401k investors to buy these 🤡 stocks like TSLA and SpaceX

C130J_Darkstar

Not if you are holding for 10 years, future TSLA

Positive_Bill_3714

I sold my NVDA, AMD, TSLA stock very early. They all account to 2 mil in today's money. I could have retired with that money adding to my existing 1.5 mil. It hurts a lot. My friend asked me recently have you ever lost anything, I explained my story and he laughed his ass off

Specialist_Exam_8433

It's 2/3rd Lockheed valuation when RKLB doing 200 million a quarter in a field with no clear path to profitability except telecom (space) vs LMT 20 billion a quarter in a growing field (defense) lmao. But even if it does go down it's just going to go right back up tbh. Scam stock like TSLA.

AnnArchist

I dumped TSLA a few years ago, post split. Only because its just not a good car company and I'm in the camp that the 2nd mover in the space will benefit from the work that the first mover does. Its continued to go up very significantly. I wouldn't complain about that 120%

bshtein

We are not living in normal times, are we? When so many hyped companies left TSLA behind on their shot to the Moon.

bshtein

Well, it's important to mention that TSLA only grew 120% in the last 5 years which is nothing to write home about, in other words the magic of Elon had been magical a decade or so ago, but it does appear to be fading.

Known_Resolution_428

!banbet TSLA 500 2 weeks

FigIndividual8074

$106M bullish flow sounds strong, but TSLA flow can stay irrational longer than your spread stays solvent 😅

mrsmetalbeard

Bought TSLA the day of the IPO for 20 (pre-goodness knows how many splits) because I really believed in electric cars.  Sold half in 2014 and the other half in 2019 when it started having parabolic spikes and crashes for no reason at all and muskrat started talking about boring tunnels and hyperloop and solar roofs and none of it made sense.  Still doesn't, but the stock went higher.  I don't want to know what I missed out on.

VibeySwingTrader

Ouch. I retired at 39 because I bought TSLA, AAPL, and AMZN in college.

Shoganai_Hito

Same shit about TSLA being overvalued back in 2012 is being said now for SPCX. Curious if this time ‘it is different’

Low-Illustrator-7844

genuine question, how did you determine the stock has terrible governance. People used to say the same about TSLA and it made people a fortune

shawman123

based on how their revenue is growing, I think it wont hit 9 trillion in next few years. But they are steady and will keep growing. the brand moat is not going away. Even though chinese flagships have phenomenal specs, even in China Apple is selling well. I could see them do well with their Specs and other not so crazy priced hardware. Even Macbook neo can do 5x sales if they can improve the supply. So I would hold on to my AAPL shares. For some reason I am scared to own NVDA but they can easily double if they keep growing at this crazy rate. I can see them hit 10-12Trillion in next 2 years. GOOG can grow from current price though not sure about doubling. AMZN/MSFT have good potential. Dont like META at all despite them pushing gazllion ads to FB/Insta. But their market cap can grow from current levels. TSLA is not my cup of tea and so I am staying out of it.

atheistunicycle

You can. Short that company with the same % of your holdings in the index as the company is in the index. E.g. if you want to short TSLA and TSLA were 5% of the index, short with 5% of what you have in the index.

Radun

yes i have been trading since 2018, didn't always do 0dte though. It is also not the bulk of my trading. I mostly do swings or leaps, but I do 0dte on SPX, and some of the mag 7 0dte ever since they added mon/wed/fri for most of the mag 7. TSLA is great for doing 0dte since it has swings of 10 dollars a day most times. Lately MSFT , and NVDA, GOOGL, and AMZN have also been great

Kranoath

I've been holding TSLA since it was $10 per share in 2019 and telling you I'm not selling even a single share. I will buy TSLA until it reaches $10,000 per share. People like myself have been saving money to buy SpaceX for close to a decade now. You can buy and hold more than one stock at a time.

Stats-Anon

Yeah, I own TSLA with an insanely low cost basis (bought it when it was virtually only EV play)... And am constantly debating when to sell.

EnlightenedPotato69

Thanks for the correction. Still stupid and croney. To think Wallstreet also kept TSLA collectively inflated for however many years as well.

7fingersDeep

Elon has mastered the shell game/pyramid scheme. Just fucking insane that TSLA isn’t trading for $5 and anyone trusts him at all. He spins shit and somehow gets away with it.

atheos42

OP, I don't think you understand how index funds work in passive investing. It's passive, you are not actively involved in the process, the fund does what the fund needs to do to follow the index. Further most of these funds are Market Cap Weighted, and that provides some protection from your fears. Real world example, lets say I have a 401k worth 315k, and it uses FSKAX, the total stock market index. Lets say you don't like TSLA, so you look up that FSKAX fund, and find the weight of TSLA and thus your exposure. You find out that TSLA has a weight of 1.65% in that index, and you currently have 1536 shares of FSKAX. Thus your exposure is 25 shares of TSLA, and each share is worth $426 currently, therefore your exposure is 10.6K on a 315K portfolio. Thus this one particular stock should not be a big concern overall. Please keep in mind that the above example is just one way to approximate your exposure, and not the best way, just a quick way, since there is something called NAV, or Net Asset Value. Try not too worry about the upcoming IPO, because of the Market Cap Weight protection built into most of these funds. What about the even weight 500 index, each stock gets 0.2%, so your protected there also.

JohnQPublic90

What makes people think the stock won’t do well? I know the underlying financials will likely not support whatever its price is, but does that even matter anymore? Is buying hype such a bad move? It’s made plenty of people who bought NVDA and TSLA rich.

moolcool

Doesn’t keep $TSLA down 

SkepticalInvestor21

Your thesis on AI overhype has merit, but timing puts on TSLA is playing with fire. The stock can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent - ask anyone who shorted it in 2020-2021. If you're going to do this, long-dated puts with defined risk are much safer than short-dated ones. What expiry and strike are you looking at? The position sizing matters enormously here.

teh_herper

unless it's TSLA amirite /s

Metrostation984

Probably still overvalued. They need to kill xAI. Not have TSLA drag them down, be profitable on Starlink and Space alone.

Hockeyshot39

Bought a ton TSLA from 2013-2017… then more during the covid sale Mostly inverse Reddit and Reddit tears had me fueled up for it Now I fill my free saltwater pool with all the degen tears

digital_soapbox

Wealthfront’s S&P 500 tracking account lets you exclude symbols. I excluded TSLA from mine due to the Elon Musk association and overinflated price.

cyphr0n

Yet, TSLA has bad earnings and never seem to go down lol.

__redruM

You don’t, I mean, how did you avoid TSLA? And your question means you don’t understand passive investing. What you do is vote next election, and the one after that, and get congress involved.

not_a_cumguzzler

you think too highly of yourself. I shorted NVDA, TSLA, PLTR, GOOG, and QQQ. all at relative bottoms

-arKK

I purchased a BMW M2 with my $TSLA gains. I appreciate you Tesla drivers.

Samerato

I remember something like that happened with TSLA years ago, they had a good news and TLSA went up because people bought it thinking it’s the right stock.

MarcusWelby_MD

Lots of reading, and trial by fire. Get in there and make some small trades with money that you can afford to lose. For me, my wife is OK with it because I am playing with "house money" -- I bought TSLA back in the 200's, rode it up, sold half my shares at $460 and plowed that into bull-call-spreads as the stock came down. It feels a lot easier mentally working on profits as the stake instead of the initial buy in. My first 2 iron condors tested both rails. One was on AMZN, the other on TSLA. I panic'd on the AMZN one because I wasn't really following that stock as closely and didn't feel informed, which tells me looking back that I never should have entered the contract -- you don't trade on hunches -- you need to have some "alpha" -- some knowledge that the general populations lacks. The TSLA one made money, but the AMZN one lost money because I covered too early. Had I waited it returned right into the middle of my butterfly. The lesson I learned is the IC's are not for the feint of heart. Those deals are structured with caps on downsides on the wings. With the right setup, they can be quite profitable.

MarcusWelby_MD

Actually TSLA has been flat overall while I've traded, but with wild ups and downs. I've been channel trading it, and have made very good returns while waiting for TSLA to eventually make a big move upward on robotaxi or optimus news. But \_everyone\_ has been waiting for that!! I do admit to being lucky, or shall we say "fortunate". So far all of 8 out of 10 trades have been profitable for me, and the losers were small. Overall, Ive added about 100k of incremental income on 700 shares for covered calls at 150k for CSPs. I have 84 bull call spreads laddered between 350 and 700, that are up substantially, because I was patient getting into them. I try to make trades that I am happy with even when the price moves against me. For example, I was fine with those $370 puts because the premiums were high and I would be happy to buy more shares as ($370 - Premiums). That makes it win/win for me. Stock goes down? I get a deal. Stock stays the same or goes up? I keep the premium

0Rider

Or TSLA should have the market cap of Ford ...

Tim_Apple_938

I bought GOOG during the “ChatGPT killed search!” dip era It just never made sense to me. Every earnings report showed search growing double digits There was such an enormous disconnect between hard data vs the media narrative. That just means you’re early at the end of the day. Market can remain irrational for a loooong time tho (TSLA 😂) so be prepared to hold and it’s extremely painful

Fun-Sundae4060

I bought TSLA after buying my first Model 3 in 2018. It was the best car I’d ever driven and the utility of Autopilot was incredible, and the promise of FSD was only better. Everyone hated TSLA and said it was going to go bankrupt. I made 10x on an initial sum of $200k invested over the course of 3 years. Now I have 3 Teslas and 2 businesses

opensandshuts

Energy company, growing software sales, fleet management, govt contracts. F should have a market cap at least as high as TSLA if you look at fundamentals

BlackKnightsOptions

I might not be able to tank TSLA stock but I damn sure can laugh at fuckers tanking their cyber trucks in a body of water

monkies77

If you're new to options, then this current bull run is giving you a false sense of the ease of options. I don't know how $490 in TSLA is crazy high 2 years out for a stock that moves insanely. You got lucky. CSPs are theoretically great when you think you'll get a stock at a discount...until the market corrects, and you're put a shit ton of stock at a higher price. Do you have an exit plan if you want to get out of your CSPs and you think you want out of the market? Everyone thinks 'yeah but i'll just wheel'...but if this market does not do yet another V bottom, this is how a massive unwind happens.

Roxfall

Short TSLA on the 11th, got it.

degausser22

Lmao I love these posts. TSLA valuation right now tells you all you need to know about for the market reacts to Elon stuff.

zg44

Elon has set SpaceX up for a TSLA merger down the road with the dual class shareholding. Can just merge TSLA shares into the class A SpaceX shares while Musk keeps 93% of class B shares with 10x votes over the whole company. He'll still control 80+% of voting power of the combined company.

Ok-Standard-4296

Elon is delusional. But to he fair, TSLA is also insanely overpriced, so maybe he just thinks thats how stocks operate. 

Top-Meaning2626

Why so many TSLA $900 CALLS FOR TUESDAY

EidoStarFi

I mainly sell options, but I also love buying OTM leaps on stocks I am confident will go up, usually tech stocks. I have AMD 530 Call Jan-21-2028, that are up 438%, I am going to close this position soon. I typically enter into these when we have a pullback and set alerts on AMD, GOOG, NVDA, TSLA, etc. and other tech stocks that can have big moves fast. When they have a big price drop I enter the position, buy OTM (500+ days till expiration) Calls and wait...I find the hardest part is not holding when it's red....it's selling when it's very green and you still have 600+ days til expiration and you start to ask yourself, "but could it be greener"?!? Yes, yes it could...but take the money!! Always take the money!

MajorLoaf

Private. TSLA being taken private too. Deal with INTC.

EntrepreneurOld7858

EXACTLY. Just because im in TSLL doesnt mean I think TSLA is *good*.

EntrepreneurOld7858

Gonna be honest im so fucking glad I didnt listen to WSB about TSLA. I made all my money I lost from shorting QQQ like a retard last year.

roundupinthesky

NVDA forward PE was 45 over the 2023 boom. Think we're in pretty reasonable territory across the board here - TSLA being the obvious outlier.

furosemide007

TSLA and SPY See the middle finger candle around 130pm in both. I bought calls

ObscureUsername000

TSLA consistently trading at 350x + PE for quarter after quarter with no growth is truly a marvel.

ilovenarcan

This shit they are pulling on TSLA today is worse than a crypto pump and dump scheme. And of course i've been on the wrong side of the move all three times yay

upvx

this morning for calls I was deciding between MU, TSLA, ARM, and NVDA. guess which one I picked.

SighRamp

TSLA can hold above 430 a lot of room to fill above

GooglySoft

No wonder TSLA is pumping

Embarrassed-Year6290

All valid points. Flow alone is never enough which is why FlowDesk runs it through a 6 signal checklist before generating anything. COT positioning, market context, price trend, IV rank, OI change all have to align. The TSLA idea only triggered because all 6 confirmed not just the put selling. Thinkorswim is great for execution but you are building the interpretation layer yourself. Unusual Whales flags the volume but does not tell you if it is a hedge or directional. That gap is what FlowDesk fills. The why behind the flow, not just the what. Genuinely curious about markets xyz though, not familiar with their verified entries feature.

rabbitee2

Institutional put selling on TSLA is a decent singal but confirming with live positioning data matters more than flow alone .Thinkor swim let's you track sweeps natively unusual whales flags vol spikes and markets xyz shows verified traders entries on TSLA perps in real-time

diggin-the-doge

I play roulette with TSLA sometimes and it never hits

PropheticMurmurs

Crazy how TSLA doesn’t follow the rest of the market at all, it just does its own thing. Almost as if an entirely different class of players are trading it.

ImAnonymous135

Hold up I just checked TSLA annual earnings and its a downtrend since 2022 how the fuck is the stock going up the oast few years!?

heikici

TSLA is mooning for no reasons... Pretty sure this means SPCX will double or triple in a few weeks after IPO :/

Some_Current1841

TSLA just mooning for no reason 😂

Protonel

TSLA has just been melting up wow

SighRamp

Adios TSLA bears, if can hold over 430 there's a very nice upside for Teslita

wynveen

You need a user flair that says “OMG TSLA”

wynveen

You need a user flair that says “OMG TSLA”

ChemistryAnxious5472

Short TSLA 💯

TipEmpty8429

Geesh what was that massive TSLA pump just then

KittyLover-7

I swear ASTS just overcomes every bit of bad news It’s really a mini TSLA

vermilli21

Not falling for that TSLA pump again

Valkorion335786

TSLA can’t even sustain its own pump smh

McClintockC

All the money is getting sucked out of the good stuff and going into META and TSLA Supreme cuckery this morning

renedotmac

These TSLA calls are going to PRINT

rodentmaster

spacex is a scam. It's a slush fund for elon. He cooks the books repeatedly and does illegal manipulation and internal asset shuffling to inflate TSLA stock on the regular. He just needed a new bucket to pull hidden funds from. There is no possible way an IPO can be valuated as high as this is supposed to be. Period. It's not physically possible. It doesn't hold up to scrutiny, and the rules are being broken to allow him to get away with it.

mtol115

I got TSLA 430 0DTEs, am I regarded

clover2025

Softy and TSLA hitting 420.69 today

Latter_Highway9539

people want to talk about $TSLA and I made all my money on $CASY and $CAT. take one of those slags to a Casey's for a breakfast pizza on the boy.

ryzetard

TSLA, microslop consensus PT is closer to 600

Beneficial-Age-9293

Yeah, I was thinking that also.  Eventually the weaker one (TSLA) will get merged.

Interesting-Text-405

I bet ppl are going to sell TSLA more and more to buy the equivalent amount of SpaceX. Furthermore alphabet is already a holder of SpaceX. Therefore stock of alpha should rise even more.

Beneficial-Age-9293

Puts on TSLA leading up to SpaceX ipo, is the play I would make if I had some balls.  Elon worshipers going to switch to better company of his two.

Beneficial-Age-9293

SpaceX will hold, TSLA will crash when all the Elon duck riders jump to SpaceX, which has all the things those dumb assess thought they were buying in TSLA.

Ok_Ad5628

$TSLA Friday load up

obxtalldude

I bought AAPL in 1998. Sold it in 2013. Good run but... damn. Had another good run with TSLA - got in in 2017. But... lost a fair chunk of that trying to short it after selling it last year. Overall, putting everything in an index fund is the best idea. But starting out with only $2000... pretty glad I took a chance on what looked like a dying company in 1998.

InfiniteNerve1384

TSLA for sure.

DropHeaven

Why is TSLA red? Garbage ass stock

achoo_blessyoo

NVDA is already much lower than AMD and INTC at 1Y forward PE ratings.  TSLA is a profitable company, SpaceX is not.