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Separate-Recipe-9778

Yep, the Saudi guy’s comments were just the last straw. Price over TBV was just too compelling, even if P/TBV recovered to 0.5 it would be have been a 2x. Was hoping the middle eastern money would help them work through the investment banking mess. Also, having spent significant time working in Switzerland, I didn’t think the Swiss national pride would let CS go under. I didn’t forsee the shotgun marriage. Live and learn. Wasn’t a huge position size.

fattyriches

thing is, the end nail was completely out of CS control but the decades long lead up is fully on them. No way to predict when exactly CS would die when it & DB have long been rumored to be the next to fall. CS really did shit the bed since 2020 but they were still solvent with good capital ratios, issue was the Bank regulators were not willing to take a chance at all on CS surviving a lone. People forget that in a crisis bank stocks become binary. They are highly leveraged when assets sells off so in a crisis its very easy for a profitable bank entity to be merged & rolled up at $0 valuation if a crisis & run are at risk. Reason why $300 bank stock can go to 0 is if they are forced to realize losses either thru a run or forced merger, if not then they still earn large profits but its all used to build back up the capital ratios.

tenfan45

> never be allowed to fail to fail, no to allow wipeout of stockholders, and even bondholders, yes look at what happened recently to CS, or C and some other biggies in 2008.

greytoc

What's CS? Charles Schwab? Is that the account you are trying to close? If it's a retail firm like Schwab - just close the account online. Or are you dealing with an investment adviser at an RIA? If you plan to select a new investment adviserr - ask them to deal with it. That said - if it's a small account - why do you even use an investment adviser? And why do you even bother with an investment adviser for 1 account if you have multiple investment accounts.

Ecsta

Meh honestly in the last few years Apple CS has been crap. I'm a big fan of them but it's gone way downhill. Yes they're US based (or at least don't have a noticeable accent) but its still the same service as overseas.

penguintattoo

Public Investment Fund had a 10% rule of not owning anything more than that. Wise. So when CS was saying buy more, PIF said no with that info, and the stock dropped 25% that day. Than CS was known to be in bad shape.

PortfolioIsAshes

To be fair, it's more like UBS were strapped to a chair as Swiss government jammed CS down their throat while whispering the incentives and guarantee they would get if they be a good dog and swallow it.

dirtydustykilla

Ask TED Say: “I want an outbound DRS transfer of my Walmart shares to ComputerShare, the official registrar”. The Ask Ted chat bot will then send you a form to fill out. You can use the following steps to fill it out. Section 1: Your TDA account number, the amount of shares you want to DRS transfer, and which stock you wish to transfer (Walmart). For the Transfer Agent Account #, leave it blank. The account number is considered the key to your account. Section 2: This is basically YOU and YOUR details. Section 3: Leave this blank. Section 4: Your address. This will be used to create your CS account. Section 5: Sign and date the form. The transfer will take 3-5 business days to process once received by the transfer team. You might want to call and chase up TD Ameritrade, as they can take longer than other brokers (up to 4 weeks if not chased). American brokers legally have to process a DRS transfer within 3-5 days, so threatening a complaint should be all you need to do to speed it up.

Jeff__Skilling

lmao, why tf are we including a crypto bank with Goldman, MS, Citi, HSBC, etc? And I guess CS belongs up here? Despite the fact that they just merged with UBS? And whats the deal with BNY Mellon being crossed out? I saw they increased their divvy 14%.......not entirely sure if their demise is imminent if they're increasing distributions to common equity...... Honestly, this post feels like a really really ***really*** shitty attempt at financial fearporn...

Actual_Palpitation13

I was looking through my old room at mom's and found the same exact game, what a time to be alive. That game was epic at the time, I remember being amazed that there could be hundreds of soldiers at once even if they were AI.. and driving the jeeps around in that game, wow, I miss it. CS 1.6 and DOD 1.3 were also huge staples of my childhood

Orbidorpdorp

I think your numbers are off though. I graduated from state school with a middling GPA, no minor or double major or honors, and I started at a boring tech company at $110 + 20k RSUs. I was still 21 when I started full-time. This is roughly the same story as all of my CS friends.

GloryHoldLine69

You should invest in CS:GO skin it only go up

onehandedbackhand

UBS to cut half of CS' workforce. 35k jobs gone. Sucks to be an investment banker right now, eh..

HaveAKlondike

Tell that to CS

zer0fks

I sold 100 CS $1 puts when it was $2 and over the weekend the company fell apart and opened under $1 on Monday. I covered and still made money. Yes, options are a scam.

lamakay30

Considering the impending recession combined with the tech freeze, people barely recovering from the pandemic, and student loans most likely not being forgiven/repayment starting, more and more people will default on their debt. This includes mortgages, loans, etc. that are currently helping COF stay up. A personal anecdote: was laid off two months ago due to mass redeployment. I have a double bachelors in Electrical Engineering and CS, plus 3 years of professional experience. I know I am not hot sh*t but I expected at least a nibble by now, but no one is hiring in tech and more and more jobs are being replaced with AI. I am fortunate enough to have some money saved up so I am set for the next few months. However, if student loans aren’t forgiven and I have to start paying everything back I’ll be screwed. I barely get around $1K from unemployment which isn’t even enough to cover my rent, so my savings would quickly dwindle. Again, I am fortunate because I have savings. One of my former colleagues who was also laid off alongside me recently used up all his savings on a deposit for a house, on top of recently having a new born. He has less experience than me and only an associates. He hasn’t had any luck finding a job either. I can’t imagine how much he’s struggling to pay for everything. The point is your COF stock will eventually dip, and you would be wise to sell soon. The potential gains aren’t worth all that risk. If I were you, I’d sell and invest in some put options. You’re already flying too close to the sun, Icarus. Humble yourself. 🫡

idlefordays

Having all my accounts with CS. I’m too lazy to move it.

Sure_Garbage_2119

in the end, it will be a CS battle to the death!

Trust_Me_Im_A_Duck

Is there any benefit in trading options on CS instead of using a broker with no/lower fees?

Trust_Me_Im_A_Duck

On CS? Isn’t that like $1k in fees?

Glass_Average_5220

Yes and no. Often times before someone goes bankrupt, their credit is already dog shit. If you got like 400 CS, bankruptcy can improve your credit score by lowering your debt and preventing you from going bankrupt for another 7 years

Thesource674

So anecdotal but here we are. I just unsubbed and honestly not even that bad a process. The buttons are at least clear what they are so cancelling took about 1 min. WHY i finally cancelled is that EVEN after losing 2x 750 dollar grow lights because they didnt take my instruction to ensure hand delivery about a month or so ago (they were porch pirated). I had to get my nephew a birthday present. Got him a ps5 digital god of war edition as they were back in stock and ps5 still mainly sold out atm around me. Guess what happened? Heres my kicker. I added EXPLICIT additional delivery instructions saying it was an issue and to please ensure hand delivery, the cart said to BE PREPARED as this would REQUIRE a signature or one time password. These fucking clowns had the absolute nerve to tell me that in order to refund my money i had to file a police report because* ... ... ... USPS delivered it not them. No refund, whole process, wasting police time on bullshit because they dont actually follow through with their own processes when its a 3rd party delivery (USPS, UPS, etc). So even though I had the rep admit they didnt ask for a signature even after she said one was provided (real nice amazon CS) and it was clearly on them or the carrier. I had to jump through hoops. Naw. I called Chase and told them to charge that shit back. Amazon can go goose hunting. Ever since Covid its just been downhill. 2 day isnt 2 day, shit from their couriers just dropped at the apartment complex willy nilly. Absurd.

QuidProJoeBribin

I lived through 2000-2001 and 2008-2009, this isn't shit. People with masters degrees in CS were fight clubbing in the safeway parking lot for grocery bagger jobs in 2008, today they sit on their asses waiting for a "W"FH job to fall in their lap while they collect unemployment if they get laid off its night and day different. If 2008 was a 9 on the scale of layoffs this is a 2.5.

little_wanderlust

CS-wise, it’s pretty good. I personally don’t think Fidelity has a good service, so it’s a close match. ;) But the app can definitely improve. No problem, happy to help.

Easy_Durian8154

What’s sad is your continued attempt to make things up to deflect but your entire Reddit history, is, well, terrifying. “OP graduated with a Master in AI, but doesn’t know how to use Google to search for CS PhD programs. sus” What’s sad is you have an obvious history lying all across Reddit to clearly feel better about whatever life situation you’re in. So you’re a teacher but with an MSc in AI(😂) that can’t Google, who is looking for a phD in AI. O.K. Stay on your meds bud.

Demboys

If a company goes bankrupt and you bought puts ITM and weren't able to close them what would happen? For example $CS.

Demboys

If a company goes bankrupt and you bought puts ITM and weren't able to close them what would happen? For example $CS.

sebohood

CS is ☠️ long live CS

skydragon570

They also got all of CS's unrealized losses and unreported short positions, so in true wsb fashion I'm going so short from this DD. May one of us rocket the other to Valhalla 🫡

Overdue_bills

If CS bags aren't that heavy why did CS have to sell in the first place? I got leap Puts for next year and will increase my position if stock goes to $25. I don't see it going anywhere beyond that and I find it strange that it barely moved with the market when it's an investment banking firm.

luoyuke

CS to the moon. My ~~CS~~ UBS calls will print

New-Ad-8873

You’ve got some good points. Here would be my points on them: -future lawsuits & toxic assets: UBS already wrote down more than 10bln for potential lawsuits and value corrections of CS assets. Also, Swiss government covers losses on most toxic assets if they exceed 5bln for up to 10bln. -regulatory: Swiss government signed a deal and used emergency law to do so. They can’t go back on what they agreed with UBS. What is uncertain is if UBS will be attacked for it’s size. But lets say UBS would be forced to sell the Swiss division of Credit Suisse, they would still make a lot of money with the ipo of it -outflows: a part of previous credit suisse outflows went to UBS already. As mentioned in post CEO of UBS confirmed outflows of CS stopped. -integration problems: yes they will not be easy but it’s not all negative. The international divisions complement each other well and there are also positives in the form of cost synergies. Your points definitely have merit. I don’t see them as significant enough for stock to trade neutral to negative though (as it did/does)

Thatonedudedude

What happened to shareholders of CS? Or what is happening ?

New-Ad-8873

All good. Critical constructive feedback is best. Archegos loss was booked for credit suisse in 2022 results already. About CS poor risk management: ubs took over officially like a week ago and first thing they announced were redlines for Credit Suisse staff to follow the conservative risk management of UBS. Ermotti led the previous cut down of ubs investment banking after the 2008 Financial crisis and was now rehired to do the same again

Liquid_Sarcasm

UBS has a problem in the form of non-core assets from the CS acquisition. Some believe the GME bags created by Archegos are what brought CS down to begin with. Either way, CS was quoted as saying they had dealt with all but “one portion” of Archegos’ portfolio, so if true, will the loss provisions of the Swiss government be enough to clear those and keep UBS liquid? Only time will tell.

NOT_MartinShkreli

Hey I’m just throwing out an alternative. I think you’re likely not off on this but curious how the archegos blow out and CS poor risk management could impact UBS in the longer term

NOT_MartinShkreli

What if they end up on a rough situation being held afloat by their feds and the CS bags are heavy and cause large losses?

a_fanatic_iguana

Nobody was saying that about CS. RBC is a far better protected bank, it’s balance sheet is a tank in comparison. I’m just as butthurt about Canadian RE as you, but I’m not an idiot. It’s a supply and demand mismatch, with no resolution on the horizon.

Low_Cream9626

> Thus, I plan to work till 30, saving around 60% of all the money I earn, putting it into my portfolio, letting compound interest do its magic, and then retiring. Any ideas on how I can accelerate this? Or just any other tips/advice. Majoring in CS and Finance is a good first step toward this goal, but it seems like making enough money to invest is a bigger issue than choosing what to invest in. You need to focus on your studies, grind your leetcode, and get an extremely high paying tech or finance job for retiring at 30 to be a viable option. Whether you choose the right ETF or know a lot about stocks seems like a minor issue if you're this ambitious about saving.

BurnLearnEarn

Tour de Suisse rhymes with Credit suisse. Puts on CS….wait what

WilliamBott

Blue Shift was awesome, man. It was Half-Life from the guard's perspective. Shit hits the fan and you have to escape. And yeah I remember getting that Valve Pack. That's back around the time I first played CS, back in Beta 0.9 when it was a Half-Life mod.

paispas

I mean CS only matters when buying a house. After that it's just a number.

Lumbergh7

Fuck yea! CS 1.6!

jefftopgun

Holy hell between CS 1.3 and DoD avalanche, you guys are realllllly bringing back my college days... What a throwback! Take my upvote!

DonaldTrumpsToilett

I would just stick to total market funds or SP500. Don’t fall into the trap that CS grads fall into of just buying sexy tech companies. The winners of 1 decade almost never outperform in the following decade.

Watchmedeadlift

Not really, a private bank in saudi owned 10%. That’s like saying the US owns 10% of CS when it’s really just chase.

Glass_Average_5220

Naw if they wanted they could have. If the Swiss made exemptions for ubs, they would have gladly made exemptions for Saudis if the Saudis asked. The alternative was that CS went under

m0squ1t0o

Check if you see some UBS Stocks instead. The migration from CS to UBS is done.

ILoveDeFi

I would recommend adopting limit orders. They're much safer than market orders. You can set the purchase price for what you want so only if the price goes to it or goes below it does your buy trigger. You can do the same thing with limit sells so the sell only triggers if the price reaches a certain point or higher. Not 100% sure about CS but you should also be able to set limit orders to be good until they expire which can be like 60-90 days or indefinitely.

MisterBananaRat

If I have enough money: Travel, build gardens to repopulate dying insect species, probably open Pokémon cards or CS2 cases (in that order)

GreaseGiblets

Sorry if not worded well. I will expect flight school to cost 75,000-100,000. I calculated a 10 year loan with a 5.8 apr so 1100$ a month. I have a 740 CS but I’m not sure that affects Student Loans? And looking at my plan, maybe more money in savings rather than mostly investments would be smarter. But I also don’t plan on having a mortgage anytime soon, rent seems like the way, more mobile and less liability.

d1rtyd1x

Lol not long enough! Please continue. For the record I have a CS background with stat coursework. Only mentioning it in case it facilitates how you present the information. And thanks by the way. I really appreciate you taking the time.

d1rtyd1x

Lol not long enough! Please continue. For the record I have a CS background with stat coursework. Only mentioning it in case it facilitates how you present the information.

Cool_Giraffe6495

A couple of questions for long time options experts. I started selling options on few established stocks. Cash-secured puts only with OTM 30-40 days out at about -0.2 delta. Stocks that I wound not mine owning if I get assigned. So far, I have not gotten assigned, so getting the premium is nice, but… It seems like in the last 30-60 days, the market is moving up while I’m sitting on the sideline. It feels like if I have just bought the stock or ETF I would have done better. Here are my questions: \- In the long run, which one makes more sense selling CS-Puts and CC options or buying and holding stocks/ETFs? \- If I want to get into SPY and hold for 3+ years, should I enter the market now with CS-puts and hoping to get assigned or just buy shares outright?

mynamehere999

The CF M’s the OR on the BA so your S leg of the CS is M’d on the B and the L leg is M’d on the O as the options get 100d the MM’s offer the ITM’s above parity

animositisomina35

CPI Estimates for tomorrow: MS: 4% JPM: 4.2% BAC: 4.1% NMR: 4.1% BMO: 4.1% JEFFERIES: 4% HSBC: 4.1% CREDIT AGRICOLE: 4% BERENBERG: 4.3% SOCIETE GENERALE: 4.1% TD SECURITIES: 4% STANDARD CHARTERED: 4.3% BARCLAYS: 4% SCOTIABANK: 4.3% WFC: 4% CS: 4% Consensus is 4.1% Cleveland Fed [Nowcast](https://www.clevelandfed.org/en/indicators-and-data/inflation-nowcasting) is 4.13%

bigpandas

!banbet CS 0 2d

elrosegod

Or it could FRC/CS out and value to zero

animositisomina35

CPI Estimates for tomorrow: MS: 4% JPM: 4.2% BAC: 4.1% NMR: 4.1% BMO: 4.1% JEFFERIES: 4% HSBC: 4.1% CREDIT AGRICOLE: 4% BERENBERG: 4.3% SOCIETE GENERALE: 4.1% TD SECURITIES: 4% STANDARD CHARTERED: 4.3% BARCLAYS: 4% SCOTIABANK: 4.3% WFC: 4% CS: 4% Consensus is 4.1% Cleveland Fed [Nowcast](https://www.clevelandfed.org/en/indicators-and-data/inflation-nowcasting) is 4.13%

FunCranberry112122

I held CS stock as of Friday

whyshw

How’s credit suisse not dead? CS is on most active tickers list

Bird_Euphoric

what will happen to open CS Calls ?

dimadomelachimola

CS holders might be rich tomorrow

Dangerous_Boot_3870

TA without CS or FA is bullshit (guessing off tea leaves.) FA without TA is bullshit (you wont get in at the best point.) CS can sometimes stand on its on; briefly. That's what all true studies have found. Its all BS. I personally have switch over to what I like to call PA. Which is short for poop analysis. If my stool is solid... calls. If my poop is loose puts. Its actually been the best strategy overall. I hope you find a strategy that works for you.

sn200gb

I follow esInvests ... he has a 3x part series: The Covered Strangle Explained - My Favorite Strategy 10a. Erik's Favorite Strategy - The Covered Strangle (CS) Pt1 | Options Strategies - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8z381jhxd4 10b. Erik's Favorite Strategy - The Covered Strangle (CS) Pt2 | Options Strategies - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbtz6PHj39E 10b. The Covered Strangle (CS) Pt3 Practical Example | Options Strategies - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDrFhfWGKxA

FunCranberry112122

Looks like I won’t be bagholding CS shares after today. Instead I will be bagholding UBS shares. UBS 🚀🚀🚀pls

CHEROKEEJ4CK

But NFT avatars are actually usable, trust me I’m verified. Like CS:Go skins are basically NFTs that you can use in game and some of those sell for millions. Just wait to see when/if Reddit hits meta platform numbers how people react to rare valuable skins that they can’t have. All I see are dollar signs.

PTCruiserGT

Good thing you didn't. When their execs bailed and went to CS, that was the first big warning sign. This is the 2nd. Don't wait for the 3rd.

Paradox68

Duly noted. This was done in Photoshop CS6 using generative fill.

thursdayjunglist

I have about $10 in unrealized profits on CS shares which I gained through exercising a call option, the UBS merger will likely complete in a few days and shareholders will get 1 UBS share for every 22.48 CS shares. The UBS shares are currently trading at $20, CS shares are around 88 cents and I have 200. Should I hold or sell?

doggz109

Except CS.

hoovadoova

That’s the thing. I was watching level 2 and the pump up right from 4:00 onward. They intentionally pumped and let it flow upward to $29 and slammed it down to $21 in about :45. Let that sink in for a moment. Pretty psychologically draining… if you hadn’t seen this shit for two years. Everything these knobgobblers do is calculated to drain households of their money. From the early release of the APE movie on BezosTV, to the shitty SeeEnBeeCee crapfest last night to the garbage articles being floated by MSM. Overall, we now have RC leading the company in a more direct hands on way. Furlong’s exit, according to the release today, was without cause. Actually, his contract reads like it was intended to be 24 months. And guess what?? June ‘21-June ‘23 is exactly that. Nothing has changed. The world is burning, inflation is raging, banks are drowning, ShFs are losing depositors at unprecedented levels, and they never closed shit. We have at least 76.6M shares at CS( I’d contend higher than that, but because of the asinine SEC/DTCC shenanigans last Q, we clearly are not getting the real numbers. All we see is DTCC says they have X thus DRS can’t be more than Y.)

ArcadeMan2020

Yes but a PHD or masters in CS with mastery in Hadoop, Apache Pig, Python, Matlab and more would be needed to get that job at that pay rate in addition of completion of numerous certs.

isgooglenotworking

Half the float is locked with CS and majority of those people don't even know how to sell from there lol

Thelamadalai190

I have applied to 175 jobs in the last \~3 weeks since graduating. About 1/3rd were developer related, 1/3rd product/project manager (Background fits closest to this) and 1/3rd analytics. In the past, I generally heard back from 2-3 companies after 40 resumes sent, and got 1-2 phones interview from that, then 1 second round/in person interview. This time around, I have not heard back from 1 live human, except 60 auto generated "thanks for applying, but we went with another candidate" sort of emails. To be fair it's mostly "Easy apply" on Linkedin and if I did a more startup oriented website I'd have better luck, like Wellfound. I still run a business on the side so it has been a lot balancing that out. Likely will just start another business (I became a millionaire before but lost the funds to FTX bankruptcy, etc.). The economy is not in a great spot (I think the government is not calculating the job market accurately), and with the advent of AI, it is even harder to get a junior developer job. On Linkedin I filtered Junior Dev jobs posted in the day, and one post had 9971 applicants...within 24 hours. My friends in tech said your first job is the hardest but it seems a bit ridiculous atm. I am not saying it's impossible but in my cohort of \~75 that graduated, 1 got a job being a tutor for $24/hr (he had 2 years of CS experience already) and 1 or 2 others work as assistants at Hack Reactor for the next cohort, likely a similar wage. Amazing experience and learned a ton - as to whether it is worth it? If you're not disciplined to self study but almost sure you want to get into software, it can be a good route. You will need to work your ass off post graduation. My issue is I still make money so it pulls me away from projects/Data Structures and Algos (which will take 3+ months to get a good feel for this) and Leetcode. My communicaiton and problem solving abilities as a team are likely better than 95% of my cohort, but my actual coding ability is on the bottom percentile. The sad thing is you likely won't get a good software development job unless you can successfully complete/answer Leetcode problems and DSA questions. Again, AI is at a point and will only get better astronomically faster than a human can code, so unless you are insanely intelligent and can build those systems, we are already at a point where no-code tech enthusiasts can build and deploy websites. Given the job market, the advent of AI, my lack of enthusiasm, I am 80%+ sure I will just start another business, but have a new skillset if I do need to call upon it.

NeoWilson

Why do you guys have to transition to CS from TDA

Benja_Porchase

Yes AI is real because a CS wolf wears its’ fleece; good point. Do buy Palantir and other true companies

GurInformal7336

So if we look at your comment from another angle, this makes AI a real technology and not a hype CS Energy was established in 2006 and oil rallied from 2009 until 2018. Internet of things (FAANG stocks rallied from 2017 to 2021). AI? Nvidia rallying from 2019 until 2029 ?

luckycanucky27

I could swear the TD app had a “news” section that was customized to the stocks you owned. Does CS have that somewhere?

becool773

Ah that sucks. Is IBKR better than CS?

jackperitas

I'm fucking tired traveling the whole fucking EMEA for work. Why the fuck I gave up my CS degree for some fucking construction engineering degree? I could be in my underwear working from my couch.

bannedVidrio

I lost pretty big on CS lol.

Esadissimus

when is CS AI earnings ?

Ok-Geologist5545

You get trained in a trade school or in a company that does welding. Google what’s around you and make some phone calls or just show up one day. I’d do that if I wasn’t book smart, but if you can do CS, I’d do that.

Kickboy21

Not even a debate. CS

bannedVidrio

The latter. AI will take CS first.

crazier_ed

If u go the CS route, either focus on the ai side or start working on the side in some co so you build some moneys just in case...

5endN00d5

CS Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

SnooChickens561

It is a biased source but cowritten by a professor and student of CS at Princeton who are actively working in AI. It doesn’t mean they can’t be wrong, but they are also not an average Reddit keyboard warrior believing they are experts on something after reading a couple of Wikipedia articles.

becool773

I am sorry to ask these stupid questions. I started my investment journey about a year back only, still learning everyday. In my country both CS, TD are not available though they onboard investors if they can keep some minimum balance. One more stupid question if you don't mind me asking, they will discontinue the TD Ameritrade platform fully once the integration is done?

catkarambit

What are some non developer tech jobs I can get with an MIS degree (I know I should've just done CS)

luckycanucky27

Ya I’m not a big fan of the CS platform. I like it all on one page, what I paid for it, what it’s going for now, how much Ive made off it. With CS I have to keep toggling back and forth to find that info AND my stocks aren’t even in the same order on each page.

becool773

Wait CS purchased TD Ameritrade?

Thencewasit

Step 5a. Get a taxpayer funded bailout. (AIG, INTC, LUV, AAL, CS, GE)

AdmirableHour5157

I didn’t think CS allowed any non-domestic transfers.

SirGlass

My whole issue with that is the people who invested started saying they needed to file a lawsuit or even the government needed to bail them out, or the CS people need to go to jail, or CS should pay to cover their losses Literally in the prospectus in plain English it says multiple times the long term return of the fund will likely be zero , its not meant to be held long term. Like three times it says long term you can expect the returns to be zero. Then when that happened people were like "How could this actually happen?"

your_ideas

This thread makes it clear that the apes are still here, just hidden and waiting. For real though no expectations for this war I CS report. Turnaround ahead of schedule. If they surprise to the upside this roller coaster might take off again.

sk8itup53

This is what people fail to understand about AI, and CS and Ethics, and why engineers have to take it for their BS degree. We're FAR away from AI being realized and monetized.

they_call_me_justin

Im not really sure why you were heavily downvoted. A few of my friends who did CS/EE got offered around 100k-120k/year from big tech companies so its not entirely unreasonable.

Xoptikdesigns

Rich, wealthy, muscles, but a fucking hardcore CS GO addict. Somethings not adding up here Jim Bob. You fat nerds will make up anything.