SF

RogueJello

Waymo is not available outside a very small area, apparently because it has issues outside of a very narrow band. So it's like saying Nuclear Fusion is a major innovation. Until it leaves those narrow conditions, it's not really much of a product. It do you think that Google will be able to recoup their billions giving taxi rides in SF? That's a bit like the Disney monorail. As stated AI has yet to find a use case, outside of generating spam.

brainhack3r

Waymo has like 10-15% of total cars in SF. I live in SF and I'm downtown and I drove back from Costco and counted the total number of cars for 5 blocks and it was like 13% Waymo cars that were on the road.

pargofan

Doesn't TSLA own Waymo? They're already doing robotaxis in SF

Interesting_Paper_41

Capcom seems relatively decent from what I can tell. Resident Evil is more beloved than ever and Monster Hunter is one of the biggest arpgs on the planet. SF6 is also generally pretty well liked. Other than Dragon's Dogma 2 launch, they seem pretty well liked rn.

VNDMG

It is cheaper. A typical Uber around downtown SF is about $12 +$2 to $4 tip. That same ride in Waymo is about $10 w no tip.

TheSilenceOfNoOne

Their cars likely cost hundreds of thousands of dollars… For the general roll out they probably had to front money to purchase and launch hundreds more cars. It’s not hard to see they get that money back from the rides they will be doing — it only launched in SF like a month ago.

Jaded-Assignment-798

I rode in one for the first time last week in SF and was extremely impressed. They are also way more prevalent than I thought they’d be. Price was the same as an Uber

didnt_knew

It is VERY area specific. In SF you need to use the waymo app, it’s not on anything else.

iamiamwhoami

I took a Waymo last time I was in SF. God damn future man!

corticothalamicloops

lol this reads like a joke. what crime is there in new york city? it’s lower than every red shithole in the country. SF only has one neighborhood that’s kind of sketchy, the rest of the city is more beautiful than whatever bunghole you occupy and all the cities you listed are like 50% of the economic output of this country. go fck yourself you uninformed hick, this narrative is so tiring

Worried_Quarter469

She might go nuclear, big in SF right now

Upswing5849

Where are TI’s engineers distributed though? They can’t all be in Texas. There are smart people everywhere but there are concentrations of them in tech centered cities like SF, Boston, Raleigh-Durham. Etc. Austin definitely has a tech scene but still a big downgrade from the bay. And Musk is a dumbfuck either way

a5ehren

The SF earthquake took out a major port city for months. The crowdstrike thing was *some* businesses for less than a day.

Redditaccount2322

I’ve definitely seen them in Santa Monica. Pretty sure they don’t operate in SF though because the homeless people that hang out behind the wendy’s dumpster would keep them as pets

Dr-McLuvin

lol u think Nancy is the one yoloing millions of calls on NVIDIA? Yes it’s her husband. He runs a venture capital firm in SF. Heavy in tech.

AsgardWarship

Nah I'm from Mumbai India. I just LARP on SF sub

Lordblack1400

Yep she lays 14 inchers all the time - heard she used to plug up the shitters at the SF DA’s office

devereaux

Newsom has so much baggage it's silly. Crazy inflation, crime, homelessness, and taxation in California -- particularly in SF where he's had his career. He also has issues with alcoholism, fucking around with 19-year old women, having an affair with his campaign manager's wife, etc. Perhaps the worst one (for 2024 politics) is something where he didn't exactly even do anything wrong --- his ex-wife Katherine Guilfoyle is about to marry Donald Trump Jr. We'd never hear the end of it. The guy is unelectable outside of California, and all Trump would have to do to guarantee himself a win in the election is run 30 second ads consisting of camera footage of the Tenderloin District on a warm summer night. The nation would be absolutely aghast.

JasonDomber

Ooof. From Seattle here but not gonna lie. SF used to be one of my favorite places to visit and I don’t think I would go there right now…. My concern is it’s too late stage to come up with a viable candidate. I’ve heard Gavin Newsom’s name get thrown around, but the problem is I think he’s too liberal to get the vote from most of the country.

4score-7

I can’t count on any meaningful correction in residential RE until the asset class itself falls out of favor. In other words, that group that buys up everything decides it’s not worth their dollars. Pricing should have done that by itself as it raged upward, but it didn’t. How this differs from a potential stock market correction is that residential real estate has real carrying costs and represents a crunch on liquidity for an investor. If appreciation isn’t matching, and rents (which peak before hand) can’t stay up, it doesn’t make sense as an investment play. Diversification in real estate means a mix of commercial (already toxic), residential (MF or SF), and raw land, for ag or for future development. We’re not there yet for a meaningful correction, and Fed should wait to lower rates until we are in a toxic environment. Deflation is necessary after the 47% run up in valuations of 2020-2024.

Dibble-legend2104

Haha it’s a bit like attending a protest-who has time for that? Makes me think of David (ball)sachs boarding the trump train with his SF convention. It is  strange to see tech swing to the right. I think it’s bullish for equity and tech 

Ahueh

primarily rednecks, who don't know much other than the best way to fuck their cousin. But SF is unironically a hellhole.

brainhack3r

Do you have a primary source for the number of active cars in SF at any given time? It's also probably over represented in the SOMA area where I live vs say the Outer Richmond. They're all over SOMA and downtown.

cnflakegrl

Not your question, but with childcare at 3200 a month, you could get a live-in au pair for far less than that and save about 10k. If you work in tech in SF (or one of the auxiliary cities) , you will likely have a childcare spending account that you could also use towards that au-pair cost. Then the 10k savings could go into your 401k. If you have a backdoor Roth option at work (it will be part of your 401k offering), you should do that before prioritizing more in other accounts.

vinsan552

That number is more accurate than 300, being 10% of active cars in SF. Your numbers are off by orders of magnitude.

rendingale

He should just do Batman and fight homeless people in SF

bartturner

Not really. Tesla will have to do exactly what Waymo has already done in SF, LA, Phoenix and Austin. You will have to run with safety drivers and prove safe and then get local government approvals.

brainhack3r

There 300 cars in SF but remember they're always active. Even when they're not active you see them beside they're idling on the side of the road waiting to pick up passengers. I'm not exaggerating when Is ay there are a lot of them though. I went out tonight and saw like 5-10 of them. They're everywhere!

xmarwinx

> There's a non-trivial number of cars too. I'd say 10% of the cars on the road now in SF are Waymo and don't have a driver. > > Sources please? Theres no way that is remotely true. I would be surprised if they had even 1%.

inm808

Meanwhile there are literal robotaxis live in SF

Serious_Sprinkles_99

Yeah lol a tweet means a whole lot. Tesla has no talent left to develop droids or autonomy. If you live in SF you’d know. So, his tweet is basically like hey don’t bet against me. If I solve two of the most difficult problems that hundreds of companies are trying to solve you will be sorrry lol. It’s comical

cantadmittoposting

no riots allowed in SF. I need the bay area intact for ACHR to open its air taxi routes

CouncilmanRickPrime

They just removed all restrictions in SF. Anybody can hail a Waymo there now. There are definitely still things to work on but they are actually progressing.

brainhack3r

Meanwhile, Waymo will take the market. I think the plan is to prove SF will work, then branch out to other cities. Probably doubling each time. They're also agnostic about the hardware where Tesla has to rely on Tesla.

brainhack3r

I live in SF an the Waymo service is pretty slick. It just flat out works. There's a non-trivial number of cars too. I'd say 10% of the cars on the road now in SF are Waymo and don't have a driver. Crowded areas can sometimes go to like 30-40% (guessing) because people don't want to park there. For example, when they want to go to a Giants game at the stadium because there's no parking. Personally, I don't like them because when I get angry at them and want to jump out of my car and road rage I look like an idiot yelling at a car with no driver.

NewportHusband

Being able to navigate fully autonomously without a driver in a crowded city such as SF is not a simple trivial problem. In any case, I’d rather a company tackle a problem that they can solve successfully rather than claiming something they cannot solve and keeps delaying on solving. Musk has claimed fully autonomous by 2020, then it was lvl 5 autonomous by year end. There’s been no demonstrated track record of any of these claims.

DemisHassabisFan

No. You dumb regard. But Waymo is the shit in SF. Fuck outta here.

SirBobPeel

If you look at the experience level of the directors and writers they choose for their Star Wars shows and movies it's kind of a jolt. Most of them seem to have little to no experience, especially in big budget SF/action type shows. It's like they get picked because someone met them at a cocktail party or something. The next big Star Wars movie will be directed by a woman who's never done anything but feminist documentaries before. The Acolyte was written and directed by Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant. These are not people I would hand hundreds of millions of dollars to.

Forward_Dealer_4482

Tesla is much further ahead in meta data and ability to take someone from one place to another in this country. No one cares about SF but a Tesla can take you from SF to LA and into the city.

inm808

“Full self driving” is literally a made up phrase , because they aren’t legally allowed to call it autonomous driving - the actual technical designation with highly detailed tiers and levels. Tesla is level 2, meaning a driver must always be present - legally. Waymo is level 4. And is running a legitimate robotaxi business, competing with Uber and Lyft right now. You can hail one in SF.

Chad__Tyrone

Like 66k after taxes so 5k-5.5k a month with populated major (desirable) even not coastal metro areas rent 2-3k a month so it's not much.. but in reality six figures is still not easy to get. Imagine how vast majority make it then.. P.s. - Physics teacher in San Jose with a masters degree salary at 70k in my home (SF bay area, most expensive/unnafordable place in the world) just looked at Indeed. To my friend NVDAismygod.. still love you bro 

marsbup2

Good point. That said, insae someone using autonomous taxi in SF on YouTube. It's cool bit I am sure it cost google a lot more that the a regular taxi. There were a bunch physical stuff they had to add to the car. Like camera radar etc. Plus I am sure a bunch of engineers are monitoring each taxi routes. A lot resources are needed.

cantadmittoposting

> Joby is manufacturing their own parts in house (which require FAA certification ah i don't think i've grasped this difference in reading both the JOBY and ACHR releases. I always got the impression based on the "stages" that they had comparable timelines. My understanding is that Joby intends to have live service in Dubai by 2026, which might be a shade later than Archer's 2025 target for SF if all goes well...   overall, I agree ACHR has the best bull case for the next 18 months of publicly traded Western startups. EHang is a bit of a wildcard being chinese (they claim to be actively flying and fully paid for their first 30 vehicles). They might push some really optimistic numbers in their ER.   > Not to mention all the government infrastructure money that will need to pour in to set up air taxi landing zones and charging stations I've only found one company (Ferrovial?) that seems to be public and build the "vertiport" type infrastructure. Other than general ETFs like BATW do you know any good companies that might specifically come into focus as infrastructure spend comes up in 2026 or later?

cantadmittoposting

ERs for most of the sector are coming up. While it's unlikely the *earnings themselves* are going to be significant since no one is flying regular services yet, lots of companies are on an upward trend as recent tests and certification milestones have been achieved... Sustained optimism, especially promises to not further dilute equity value before certification is complete, will probably encourage continued buy-in and price increases... but there's easily as much chance for new schedule or dilution risk to be announced.   for specific companies... I'd have to dive further into press releases and the like to see if specific timelines or test flight announcements have been made... Basically just search for the company. Following them on insta now too. Vertical Aerospace, which has been in the dumpster after its only prototype was scrapped in a flight test failure last year, is supposed to have its new prototype flying in the next ~2 months. Success there *should* be significant for its price. Archer should be announcing its path to final Type certification, one of the last hurdles for it to actually begin operations in SF. If they have a strong timeline they should keep running (hoping for ~7-8/share like we saw last summer?) Joby's been a bit quiet, but they've been ahead of the competition for a bit so not sure what to think there. They have strong commitments from Dubai for an initial market. EHang is... doing whatever Chinese companies do? Eve (Embraer) just announced a new round of equity funding (dilution) so i'd keep out of it for a bit.

erf_x

Waymo is already superhuman and publicly available in SF. Soon to be LA. Ride in one and it’ll change your mind

Chad__Tyrone

To Castro district 🏳️‍🌈 SF

RevolutionSad8762

That’s a good point. All I know, is it living in an HCOL state (SF Bay area), a single years budget is quite a bit of money. I mean property taxes And insurance alone run me about $40,000 a year. So adding up other expenses, accordingly, you could see how one year‘s cash is a lot of money. I think all anybody can hope for is to augment whatever money they do have and try to live on that. For some people that might not be a problem and for others, it could limit things. Possibly if I moved to a low cost of living area, it would be a lot simpler. I’m not sure I want to do that though.

pepesilviafromphilly

it's not too much in SF. retirement is years away with 2 young kids to support.

OperationKey5600

So she sold her 50+ SF properties at $2mil each and got into stocks ?

Fausterion18

The $41m is based on her reported assets yes. Except we know what she invested in. We had her filings from back then. It was mostly invested in real estate in SF, and it was leveraged with mortgages. Her stock portfolio must have performed extremely poorly given how well SF real estate has done since.

Fantastic-Shower-290

Do we work for the same company? Sounds exactly like my experience. I’m in a tech role but support global ops teams and as a result, do need to interact with SF frequently. Commercial teams drove the switch from another similar product (which everyone seemed to like) to SF. It’s clunky and missing essential features that we have to seemingly move the earth for in order to implement. Einstein “AI” also tarnishing the good professor’s name. Cases often don’t hit the right queues or are incorrectly classified. I don’t look at it and think, the company behind this must be valued at a quarter of a trillion dollars…

casey-primozic

The fked up thing about TX is that their major cities, Dallas, Houston, and Austin are so far apart. In CA at least LA and SD are somewhat near each other. SF is about 6 hours from So Cal though.

MassiveBearrr

20 years of real estate gains in SF to reach 600k equity and you dump that kinda money in Tesla randomly and in crazy calls.  Mkay lol  

Fausterion18

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/16/fact-check-house-speaker-nancy-pelosis-net-worth-inflated-meme/4707087001/ Her hubby was a real estate developer and they bought a bunch of real estate in the 80s and 90s in SF when it was really cheap.

The-moo-man

I guess but I regularly take Waymos in SF and they are amazing.

Tr33lon

Snowflake had a brilliant head start on a market with a limited moat. Now that the big3 clouds have caught up (with Redshift, Fabric/Synapse, BQ and Databricks in all of them), the argument to migrate to SF is slowly dissipating. Why spend on a platform that only does warehousing when you can stay inside clouds that do warehousing + everything else? I still think they’re a strong player in one of the most important spaces in the market right now, but IMO their biggest excess returns are behind them.

Redditaccount2322

Well to be fair Powell put together a rescue package with other big banks to make sure they didn’t go under and at the time it seemed like if FRC fails that others will follow suit. Somehow it became isolated - although I’m sure these banks are sitting on hundreds of billions in unrealized losses with some of these investments… In retrospect it was pretty obvious they were burdened with toxic assets with their corporate real estate. Having lived in SF those properties became essentially worthless over covid and tons of businesses moved out. Oh well live and learn - still had a green year but that one hurt

shizac

Not enough for the streets of SF. He'll have to be homeless in Sacramento or Portland maybe

Glad_Explanation6979

Austin SF and NY? Hopefully they get their travel between cities paid for.

minicoffeebag

I live in those big cities like: SF/NYC/LA Things around here going crazy 

Mike_Ropenis

>Are you in biotech? Too obvious? haha... RTP, Chicagoland, that area between DC and Baltimore, Madison, Kansas City... shit even Indiana has a few options, but all of those tend to be cheaper than SF and Boston. Totally depends on what your area of expertise is, but I was shocked how many different companies exist in cities that you don't think of as "hubs"

Candyman44

It’s all gonna come down to which court hears which case. The petitioners will court shop until they find a favorable court. Similar to the 90’s - early 2000’s when Libs went to the 9th circuit in SF for any and all challenges to Rep sponsored laws they didn’t like. The Reps will use the 5th circuit in Cinci. You’ll now how the case will be decided based on the court case was filed in. Should make things easy to determine.

suan213

Even in my UHCOL neighborhood in SF I can get world class hot donuts at several times a day for 1.50 to 2.00 a donut. The fuck is Krispy kreme thinking

ErinG2021

SF Fed President on CNBC now. “This morning’s PCE data is good news, but we are not done yet and there is more work to do.” Sounds like higher for longer remains in place for July for sure.

donaldtrumpiscute

I am designing a new programming language called Gaaay specifically for SF residents

Leather_Floor8725

Waymo robotaxi open to all in SF. The passengers aren’t required to keep hand on the steering wheel and take control at any moment. The car drives itself.

Santarini

Come to the SF Bay Area. You'll see dozens of both every day

mold_motel

Austin POrtland or SF?

RAF2018336

All the people shitting on the EU have no idea what they’re talking about. I had a flight to Paris from SF 3 years ago, which got delayed for the door for the luggage hold not closing. We had already boarded, had to de-board, then board again. About a 4 hour delay. By the time we had landed in Paris, I already had an email from the airline asking me how I wanted my refund for my tickets. I got $1000 back without having to lift a finger. Meanwhile in the US, there’s tons of loopholes for companies to not have to reimburse customers

JellyfishQuiet7944

That's it? Lilly brought in $34,000,000,0000 last year. That's one single biotech company. We have biotechnology companies opening every day. SF is the world's leader in biotechnology. Your one source doesn't prove anything. The EU doesn't innovate. They don't. Plain and simple.

joey343

lol my brother lives in SF; I’m aware. My point is he’s making a choice to buy a home far above the median home cost in California, which given his inheritance is unnecessary considering he never needs to consider proximity to work again when purchasing

Scandinavian147

Offcourse it's smaller than the SF metro area, sillicon valley is a huge economic powerhouse. But you are comparing a somewhat similar in population metropolitan area towards and entire country with both cities but also areas of lower economic activity. Your original point of it being near impossible to live of investments in Sweden is simply not true. It is more common in the US sure and those who do have a greater living standard economilly speaking. But it is far from impossible, then offcourse I study economics and for my age I'm decently well of so offcourse my experience doesn't mirror reality. Look at Ukraine in the sense that Russia expected to take Kiev in 3 days, now it's a stalemate. This is despite Ukraine being one big field, we are geographically much harder to attack. Then again, absolutely the us has played a important part in international security, but we would be fine without NATO. We have been for a long time, but now there is an opportunity to make money from it due to us being able to sell NATO compliant goods so offcourse we'll take that. Money on the table.

According_Owl7944

Just look at Ukraine? In what way? You seem to be reaching. Sweden may be a great place to make a lot of money by European standards. The entire economy is smaller than the SF metro area lol.

ruja_ignatova

Would be shocked if NYC doesn't have a $2k median rent. Same for SF proper.

BEAVACUDA

Was in SF other day. Tenderloin is always must view. Say what you want about those misfits, they're 💯 more human than Silicon Bros. Hey, do me a solid and just keep main boarding whatev but with GRND, clearly separate and distinct from other type. Thank you, my poor UC/Berkeley neighboring friend

BitcoinOperatedGirl

Don't worry it can still not happen. This company planning this service doesn't mean they succeed. The other thing is, OK, they claim they'll be able to do SF to San Jose in 10 minutes. That's cool. The problem is they're only going to have two ports to start. If you need to uber for 15 minutes to the port, then wait for the helicopter, then fly for 10 minutes, then uber for 10 minutes again, it becomes a lot less attractive than actually flying point to point. You definitely won't save any money, and you might not even save any time, so it's not clear that this service will be profitable any time soon.

imrickjamesbioch

That’s silly… I’ve lived in Yay all my life and reside in the wonderful city of SF. $1 mil is still a lot unless you have kids and a strong desire to waste $1.5 - $2 mil on some tiny house. If you’re single and you get are getting 7% on $1m. Based off cost of living in the bay plus 3% inflation each year. You could live off a mil comfortably and still have a bout $550k still in your savings after 30 years. This assumes you’re not getting any other income like work or social security. Family of 4, yes you are going to need about $2 mil but this for 30 years and cost of living will likely go down considerably after year 18-20 once your kids move out or at least get s job to pay for their own stuff. Either way, keep on Trucking like NVDA! Cheers

ElRamenKnight

Probably because builders in your area are getting more permits approved than say in SF. That's the case in Austin, Texas for sure.

beejee05

I’m Im renting a $700 shack in SF, I’m chillin right now. I don’t care what the bitches say about my Place

donaldtrumpiscute

You obviously live in SF and ggreaey

po-handz2

Their mini task specific LLMs could be game changer Prob what I will end up building with cause genAI is customer facing and all or customers are on SF...

Stickerlight

Expected move is calculated based on implied volatility and the remaining days before option expiration. I made some efforts to estimate the total cash value of the options contracts using formulas like these =SUMPRODUCT( ABS(Q2 - SF\_OPTIONS(P1, "calls", "strike", TEXT(Next!$A$1,"YYYY-MM-DD"), "NH")) \* SF\_OPTIONS(P1, "calls", "openInterest", TEXT(Next!$A$1,"YYYY-MM-DD"), "NH") ) + SUMPRODUCT( ABS(SF\_OPTIONS(P1, "puts", "strike", TEXT(Next!$A$1,"YYYY-MM-DD"), "NH") - Q2) \* SF\_OPTIONS(P1, "puts", "openInterest", TEXT(Next!$A$1,"YYYY-MM-DD"), "NH") ) I have no idea if they're accurate at all, but it seems about right.

RunningForIt

I admire your tenacity in trying to prove such a pointless point compared to my main comment. Glad you spent time on your Saturday writing that up when I said awhile ago that I don’t care if you retire in Ohio or SF lol.

hahdbdidndkdi

Sure man. Anybody can squander 7.5 million after taxes if they're stupid. You literally picked one of the most expensive shacks you could find to make your point. Congrats. Nevermind you could by a decent 3 bed two bath like this one in SF: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2147-Mason-St-San-Francisco-CA-94133/2142510990_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare For 1.5 million. That's a walkable location with lots to do nearby. You don't even need a car, if you don't want one. Then you'd have 6 million in cash, no mortgage, and 240,000 per year at 4% withdraw. That's plenty to live off of, even with 3 kids, you'd be loving a very comfy life. But yeah sure, you can squander if you aren't smart with your money.

donaldtrumpiscute

Is it true that Jay lives in SF and so is gggg?

donaldtrumpiscute

In my McKinsey interview, the guy asked me *How many LGBT people in the USA*. I said equal the SF population and passed the interview.

zedmaxx

Sure, you wanna live life in quarantine be my guest. You’ll never get sick Until you leave quarantine. Same people who fail to understand this are the land acknowledgment crowd who bitch about plague blankets. Well genius, how do you think that worked? People who were never exposed to a pathogen got wrecked when exposed en masse So your entire strategy is everyone stay in their pods forever? Get fucked. No. You are the rest of the scared fatties can have SF, Seattle etc. The rest of the world is done playing this game.

donaldtrumpiscute

``` public static void main(String[] args) { String gayOrStraight = Math.random() > 0.5 ? "Gay" : "Very Gay"; System.out.println("I am " + gayOrStraight + " and I live in " + "SF"); } ```

donaldtrumpiscute

```public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println("I am gay and I live in SF"); } ```

donaldtrumpiscute

I am gay and live in SF

donaldtrumpiscute

How much is it to rent a 2bedroom in SF?

Spy300

>'Highest concentrations we've ever measured': COVID is teeming in SF wastewater LLY 3000

donaldtrumpiscute

Let's all move to Beijing, ditch SF

NVDAismygod

Some dude in SF driving a 911 GT3 with the plate EXT-LQDY 

lancevancelives

Can't buy crack and Mad Dog with leftover avocado toast. Unless you're in SF or NY. 

unfuckthisfuckery

Siri went from telling you what the weather is like to telling you what the weather is like in SF, ehhh, LA and then copy paste notes to email, while OpenAi makes people at work think I’m a decent programmer, wtf Tim Apple

indielib

Bigger thing is trump got those tech billionaire donations in SF. Doesn’t need to launder through foreign agents as much anymore .

BarleyWineIsTheBest

That’s not the only reason. They also didn’t operate a hub and spoke model, rather a point-to-point system. When that works, it works very well. It also works very well for short-ish legs. Seattle, SF, LA, PHX type journeys. With quicker turn around, having people stay on the plane for connections isn’t as bad as competitors. But it can also get colossally f-ed up. Should it get off schedule, you don’t have the benefit of bringing all planes and crew back to a hub for an easy reset.  They also used to send you free drink coupons on your birthday… not gonna lie, I liked that and it helped me buy a ticket as customer. I was a big fan of LUV, both as a customer and as an investor, but not any more. 

LiverpoolLOLs

Yep. California. In SF though. Property prices have stalled/declined due to Covid. I believe I pay on a ~1.9M valuation and actual value is 2-2.1M so not a big difference.

NVDAismygod

I’m paying $1300 for a one bedroom (I split it 50/50 with my gf). Rent is similar and I got in twice a week in downtown SF