SF

PuffyPanda200

500 k investment making 5 k a month? I live in Seattle, I lived in the SF bay area for a while. Very few houses cost 500k and very few rents get up to 5k a month. I don't trust your numbers. Also, if this was so easy why would the REITs not do it? From the above it looks a lot like you are super leveraged and various financial (rates, recession, large local job loss) or non financial (natural disaster damages properties) could be a massive problem. Best of luck.

MirthandMystery

Dark pool activity. Banks in NY to SF LA and UK trade or close positions by transferring to their Asian based office.

Holiday-Date8635

Does ORCL think we are some matcha latte drinking VCs in SF? Shut the fuck up with your gay ass forecast

Thisisjimmi

SF juice target has it at 32 bucks, but i dont know if it can do that.

duddnddkslsep

unfortunately the offices in SF are packed with skinny gay men or asian tech bros again

tech01x

Democrat leadership likes to make it seem they are doing something, but they really don’t car that much. The EV tax credits were designed to help the UAW infested automakers try to catch up with other companies that were far further in EVs using public money. You can see it in the rules for the EV tax credits of 2022… it’s a bailout for the UAW, it’s just hard to cut out Tesla with whatever rules. They did try to make a union specific carve out that ended up getting axed by Manchin because that would have cut out Toyota, a major donor and they have faculties in WV. As for nepo baby, you have no clue what you are talking about. Musk’s issues with COVID had to do with CA… specifically, the week that everyone else across the U.S. was re-opening auto plants, CA and the local county in Fremont refused permission for Tesla. There are reasons why Musk ran into trouble with Democrats as the only major auto factory in a blue region (San Francisco bay area). Meanwhile, BMW and Volvo in South Carolina, Mercedes in Alabama, Kia and Hyundai in Georgia, Toyota and Honda in a slew of red states like OH, IN, TN, KY, MI, didn’t have any trouble starting up. It didn’t matter that the level of disease at that time was lower in the SF bay area than all those other places. And Newsome refused to help, and Tesla would have had to litigate their federal exemption, as CA refused to openly acknowledge the federal exemption. Musk has good reasons to be upset with Democratic Party leadership. Go see what auto plants exist in deep blue regions - there aren’t any. Even Rivian, in IL, is far south enough to actually be in a purple/red area.

Dongkey_kong

Can SF not lose to Sam darnold please?

Best_Card_007

Exactly lol. My friend with Stanford MBA went to a party in SF and some VCs thew 30 million his way for a concept of an idea. Now the company is thriving and worth a lot more than that. This has been happening in tech since 2010 and nothing new 😂

Ok_Employment_192

LOL, Europoors. Have you ever had a walk in LA or SF downtown? Sure, in Europe the wealthiest might be not as wealthy as in the US. But at least we don't have people fucking dying in the streets. American society is a joke and a system that has clearly failed. But I love your stock market, though!

Glock7enteen

Casually lost a brand new Ferrari SF90, congrats

Phantomofthecity

Robert Downey Junior should be M Bison in the new SF movie.

ImakeBADinvestmentsx

My $GOOG thesis. GOOGL waymo are now profitable in SF. 800 cars generating $4-5k a week in revenue at 80% margins. $200m profits from SF going back into the business and expanding cars in that area at 50 a month. Cloud backlog growing at 35% in $120B base and revenue at 55b run-rate. Set to be $100b annual revenue in 3 years. Surely $3T seems appropriate for $GOOGL. when $270?!

ImakeBADinvestmentsx

$GOOGL waymo are now profitable in SF. 800 cars generating $4-5k a week in revenue at 80% margins. $20m profits from SF going back into the business and expanding cars in that area at 50 a month. $GOOG $GOOGL will THRIVE soon! Wow

chingy1337

Everyone who’s buys SF thinks it’s a piece of shit and it is

daxter_101

I’ve visited SF, there’s food trucks and other restaurants where for $14 or $15 you get more protein and value

dont_downvote_SPECIL

What it's like trading stocks in 1850 - 1890: 1. Certificates stored in NYC vaults. 2. You send orders by telegraph (or letter in 1850s if needed). 3. Broker executes trade on NYSE. 4. Confirmation sent by telegraph, paperwork mailed. 5. Dividends/cash managed through NYC banks → wired/drafted to you in NO or SF if needed (I lived in New Orleans until Reconstruction was over) The only change = speed improves. 1850s: 1–2 days for confirmation, a week for cash. 1890s: same-day confirmation, ~3–5 days for cash in your hand.

d33p7r0ubl3

True. NYC is still great but will soon be unbearable like SF

Maximum-Tone164

Tech killed SF, "Sex and the City" killed NYC. So many got caught up in the world of make believe.

ProudlyHumble9

First thing to do in SF: If you have a car, park it. Driving in that damn city during the daytime will make you consider murder. Get the Waymo app. Food: Tons of good options. Recommend Daeho Kalbijim, San Ho Won, and Sungho for Korean, Okane and Rintaro for Japanese, Golden Boy for pizza, Four Kings and Yank Sing for Chinese, La Taqueria and Nopalito for Mexican. Bars: Hit North Beach and Little Italy and cruise around. Vesuvio Cafe, Devil's Acre, Savoy Tivoli, and Bimbos 365 are all within drunk walking distance and all great. Nightlife: No matter what kind of music or vibe you're going for, SF probably has it. There are events damn near every night. Monarch, DNA Lounge, Midway, Underground SF, and Audio are all good picks if you're into electronic shit.

Majestic_Poem9725

Spent a week riding around SF in Waymo's driverless taxis. Amazing how well they work, I can see them everywhere in 10 years.

moorhound

Around $1200 a pop for a non-stop round trip from SF to Narita

_Panda

One of the biggest caveats that noone talks about is that buying, by locking in your price, is effectively insurance against you happening to live in an area that will have big housing price (and therefore rent) increases in the future. People underestimate this risk, but it's actually quite a big one because housing markets are so hyper-local and the variance based on where you happen to live can be massive. The problem with these "average" analyses is that you don't know whether your city will end up being one that has big price increases (think 2020s SF) or not (think 2025 Austin). By buying and locking in a large percentage of your housing price, you're effectively insuring yourself against this risk. Even if you end up moving houses, your equity will move with the housing market and help you keep up if you end up in an area with big increases, at the cost of obviously losing some value if you end up somewhere with a stagnant or declining market. If you rent instead, you're at the whims of your local market. This exposes you to the risk that local housing inflation ends up much larger than average and you end up significantly behind.

unhappyreach_

I can wait till the federal takeover of SF I love a man in uniform 🫦

saudiaramcoshill

>You work way less 20% less. For ultimately 60% of the purchasing power. >the cities are way more fun and interesting Really not. NYC is just as interesting as Paris. I'd put Chicago or DC against any secondary French city. I'd put LA or Nashville or Seattle or SF or Boston against any French tertiary city. And Paris is *not* clean. Neither are Lyons or Marseille. >the day trip/train/car trip destinations are way more fun, 1. Not really. Day trips in the Northeast and West Coast are arguably much better in the US. 2. If you're a poor French person, you probably can't really afford travel. You don't own a car. You have to save up for a long time to be able to afford a train ticket to the beach or whatever. Life isn't good on €10k/yr. >the food is better, people are better to hang out with, The food is overrated lol. The great French food is expensive. The average French food is simple as fuck and incredibly easy to find the equivalent in the US. It's not better. And the French people notoriously are arrogant, dismissive to people outside their immediate friend group, snobbish, and closed minded. French people fucking suck lol. >infrastructure is better, etc. Probably true. >I work in silicon valley tech and the money can't get me non shitty public transit, non shitty car traffic, mediocre groceries, better sidewalks, etc. You're right on the public transit. Car traffic in similarly dense places in France also sucks ass, though. You can certainly get good groceries in SF. I've spent a lot of time in France. You've seemingly been there once on vacation and romanticized it. France has a lot of cool, old stuff. It's got beautiful countrysides. But it's not what you've described. And being poor in France is *almost* universally worse than being middle class in the US.

Kickboy21

You edited your shit. You said LA summer is cooler than winter in denver or salt lake city. LA is hotter than SF and SD too. And why are you bringing denver into this conversation? Me and the other dude was talking about california. Youre retarded 🫵🏻🤣🫵🏻

Mellow_Toninn

Than SF and SD which are cities that are also famously temperate? Sacramento is hotter than LA. LA is consistently cooler in the summer than Salt Lake or Denver in the winter.

EngRookie

A 3.5% draw is $140k/year so unless you live in san Jose, SF, Miami, NYC, etc, that is plenty to live off. The traditional 4% draw would put that at $160k a year. Generally, your expenses go down as you get older, house paid off, kids moved out, no tuition to pay for, etc. So unless you are a fucking degenerate gambler with a spending problem 140-160k with no mortgage and no major bills is enough to set you up in 90% of places in the US. No one is forcing you to live in a HCOL area after you retire, that is entirely a personal (and very stupid I might add) decision. Most people, when they retire, move to warmer medium or low cost of areas when they retire. >Yeah bro. You can totally retire early if you live in a shitty area, are single, have no one else to support or cheer on, eat ramen everyday, and have zero hobbies aside from sitting on your ass at home. You can just exist! And dumbass statements like this also reveal a lot about a person. Like you are most likely very materialistic and succumb to lifestyle creep very easily. I live in the burbs of Chicago, and I go on at least one vacation a year, go to multiple concerts/festivals a year in the city, have a decent car, and get to spend money on hobbies and I make *LESS* money right now than I plan on being able to draw during retirement. It sounds like you need to reevaluate your priorities if you think $140k-$160k during retirement as an individual is only a wet dream for kids in Calcutta.

Sleepergiant2586

##Palantir is gonna replace Salesforce. Whatever u described is kind of accurate but the harsh reality is B2B consulting companies penetrate the market using this same approach. Step 1) Make a complex tool Step 2) Somehow sell the tool to big companies loaded with money Step 3) Only their consultants will know how to use the tool (Palantir here has their own prog/scripting lang as well) Step 4) Big clients can not get rid of the consultants anymore. Salesforce software is so shitty and so buggy but companies are trapped with SFDC now. Very hard to get rid of it. In larger scheme lf things if u see almost all companies do the same. Buy an apple device and then u get stuck with Apple's ecosystem. I think wherever Palantir has entered it will be tough to get rid of them. They are like virus 'not good for the system' but good for them from 'rev pov'. I think Palantir will grow in revenue. I've seen few other comlanies like Snowflake and Salesforce comes very close to what PLTR is doing. Marc Benioff marketed SF heavily and entered almost all Fortune 100 companies. In reality there are 100s of better CRM systems than SF at lower cost as well. Even I use SF on a daily basis and it is pathetic but to get rid of it means our org will have to spend billions of dollars to redesign our commerce. No one will take that decision. #Palantir is here to stay.

cdude

$44k is absolutely nothing compared to your pension, SS, current income level and net worth. There's no need to liquidate your IRA for this amount. You can easily save this much in one year, why raid your retirement for this? Even if you can't afford it, you shouldn't do it anyways. Your children can always borrow, but you can't. Your retirement should come first. Don't burden your children with having to worry about you. And people say HCOL as if it's a blanket statement to justify excessive spending. I live in the SF Bay Area, this is the highest of "high cost", and even I consider $160k a lot of money. I live on $50k here. Meanwhile some people here say that $200k isn't enough, they're just out of touch with reality. For just you and your wife, $160k is absolutely plenty unless your standard of living is out of control.

iron_condor34

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bocageezer

I lived in SF then. When my office was closed post-bubble in 2001, I bought two Aeron from the company for $100 each. Made two trips in my Miata to take them home. Still have them.

more_akimbo

I was in SF at the time, I was curious when lots of Herman miller Aeron chairs started showing up on Craigslist

ThottyThanos

I can also support this statement. I had fsd before v13 came out and thought it was trash and wasted my money now i use it like 50% of my drive. Drove 2 hours to concord with fsd yesterday and then today it drove me to SF doing some pretty amazing predictions passing stopped cars on the side of the road before i even saw the car parked.

Magikarpical

Gap has been struggling for years. i don't know ANYONE(because me) who still shops there. they peaked in the mid 2000s with the skinny jean. they had to shut down their flagship store in SF...etc

unhappyreach_

Gavin newsy is the reason why SF has so many homeless people. He made nonprofits a thing so homeless people get free shit for showing up. SF spends like 60k per homeless person on these nonprofit programs. Before Gavin, SF had a bunch of churches that would tend to the homeless. It's a lot less fun being homeless when you're being forced to repent for the free stuff you need. Also the mayor's office wasn't getting kick backs from churches like they do the non profits. TLDR : Gavin is a bitch INTC 40c

spookyswagg

Biotech is fucked. I’m guessing Boston? I’m in academia in mid Atlantic , we’re not doing great either. My point is, east coast has a more varied economy. Economic sentiment of someone who lives in SF is not representative of the rest of the US. In my state there haven’t been a lot of lay offs unless you count all the federal employees, but, there’s no new jobs unless you’re a nurse or want to work in construction.

TequilaTrader

Just drove 10 hours from SF to San Diego. Hoping UNH and GOOGL went up today

Gristle__McThornbody

I get DC but why Chicago and SF. Doesn't make sense. Let them do what they do.

JerryNotTom

Root is a shit company that hooks it's customers in at low rates and then hikes rates after 12 / 24 months to more than triple and quadruple the rates. I had root for a two year period, at the time I was a state farm customer paying around $110 per vehicle x 2 vehicles each month and paying at 6 months intervals. I took the test drive, root came back at me with better coverage at ~$70 per vehicle per month. Of course I became their customer and cancelled my state farm policy. At year one, my premiums increased about $4 or $5 per vehicle, I kept them because they were still cheaper than my old policy with SF. At year two root informed me that my premiums were increasing and the new rate was ~$225 monthly *per vehicle. There was no way to talk to a real person, my driving habits had not changed, I had zero claims made during this period, zero accidents, zero tickets, nothing. I told root to fuck off and went back to state farm, which welcomed me back with open arms at ~$110 monthly per vehicle. After squaring myself away with a new provider, I started searching online to find out that I was not a unique customer. Root was increasing prices with a LOT of customers in this same way. My best guess is they were shedding customers in certain geo areas because they wanted to exit the market altogether and their method wasn't to cancel policies with a sorry, so sorry note, but to fuck customers with insane rate increases. Your post reminded me of this shit-tastic experience from ~2018/2020 timeframe and I thought, I wonder how root is doing. Sure enough, I went to the app store and started reading reviews, I went to the internet and searched for "root insurance bad" and "root insurance good" and found they're still doing the same shit to their customers. They are buying customers with amazing rates that no one could ever say no to and after they make that money, they fuck them over and churn their own customer base. These reviews are from the past 30 days. I'm not sure what your expectations are with this company, but fuck them, I can't see them getting their shit together long enough to turn themselves around and figure out how to not fuck their customers with over the top x4 rate hikes after they bought the customer just 12 and 24 months in the past.

ShotBandicoot7

Unions taking initiative against CEOs bonus… Zoox launched app in SF. Forbes made a big article on the TSLA practice to hide information on FSD etc. Seems those were a few good news too many, even for meme-king TSLA.

Pain--In--The--Brain

The SF Fed chair, for one: https://www.reuters.com/business/fed-will-likely-need-cut-rates-coming-months-daly-says-2025-08-06/

RaZE___SoViEt

**$SCNI** 30% SF, picking up volume AH spike. **$TNFA** : swings from bottom, 35% SF. **$EZGO** : (🇨🇳☠️) . PM Watchlist . NFA do DD.

iThinkiStartedATrend

Oakland is bougie now. Has been for like a a decade. Oakland is just as gay as SF

driving_andflying

Reddit's based of out SF, so...? (Source: Me. I live on the Peninsula too. Hi!)

YsDivers

You guys remind of the tech bro STEMlords invading SF and making it lame

OrdinaryAntelope4902

SF is a profitable company, and activist investors like Elliott will do whatever it takes to push the stock to their target price. As an ordinary investor, you don’t need to worry about Q2 earnings. Even if they come in weak, SF will likely cut 30% of TMP to prove to customers that its AI solutions work. After that, the stock should rise and go beyond $300.

MrDown_Jones

A little Ford short might be in order after this Mach E wreck in SF. Looks like it was totally out of control and the guy tried to use friction with guardrails to stop the car before the wreck.

RagingBearBull

the year is 2027. The Fed baking system get sold and bought by the largest houses in the US. House Solomon buys the banks in the mid west. House Dimon Buys the Fed banks in NYC, and DC. A random you-tuber buys the SF Fed. This is because Fed Chair Jennifer Lopez was throwing QE parties on her estate in Miami. Stocks fall as traders are drafted into the house of Dimon's army.

ElectricalGene6146

I don’t think that’s true at all. They are selectively entering new markets and growing quickly in the markets they add to. As a Bay Area dude too I also want cavas here, but it makes more sense for them to open in Ohio for a fraction of the price and charge slightly less for better margins first than to open here. SF is an exception bc foot traffic would be high in the right area and they need to get on that.

SharpStrawberry4761

I was once in SF and talking to a guy who had moved away and was back to visit. He said, "This whole city is overrun with f*gs now - not the gay dudes, that's whatever - I'm talking about all these f'n f*g nerds!"

chris_ut

$4.79 here are you in SF or something?

I_am_Nerman

When was the last time you were in DC? The reasons are easy to see. Hopefully, they clean up Chi, Phi, NY, LA, SF, etc next

69YourMomma69

Bingo. All income whether it be capital gains or labor should be taxed at the same rate, definitely makes zero sense that someone who works their ass off for $50k would be taxed more than someone who earned the same amount by sitting on their ass watching their wealth compound. Only area of disagreement is I think $1m-$2m is too low. You can't even buy a house in NYC or SF for that amount. We need some incentive for people to work harder, study longer, and seek higher paying/more stressful careers, and being able to pass down their house to their children is a very strong motivator for many people. But I will agree that the current limit is quite high. I think most college educated working professionals in NYC would think $1-2m is not even wealthy.

Xijit

Tell that to the Software Engineers in SF who are getting fired from their $300k jobs and replaced with AI, while still having to pay the mortgage on a $1.5 million dollar condo, the $500 a month car loan they signed for when they were still employed, and the $2k child support check they have to send out each month. And compare that to a self employed mechanic who's business makes $150k a year, but they run their shop out of a barn that is on property their family has owned for 2 generations, and their primary company expense is paying for an F-350 with a welding rig on the back. The former works for someone else, while the latter owns their owns their likelihood.

takuoba

I was thinking the same but It seems like SF is having a bad time and could be condemned…

I_am_Nerman

If you think SF is hot you should really check out Tempe AZ, Austin TX or any of the SEC schools

moorhound

Reasons the girls in SF are hot: A ) it's expensive as fuck again and rich girls are almost always prettier by default B ) The place has so many hills that the city's like a one giant stair master, the asses are 🤌

GneissFrog

You are recommending a drive from Huntington Beach to San Diego, which can easily be more than two or even three hours because of traffic, to someone visiting SF or LA? Is this person traveling by helicopter or private jet?

moorhound

First thing to do in SF: If you have a car, park it. Driving in that damn city during the daytime will make you consider murder. Get the Waymo app. Food: Tons of good options. Recommend Daeho Kalbijim, San Ho Won, and Sungho for Korean, Okane and Rintaro for Japanese, Golden Boy for pizza, Four Kings and Yank Sing for Chinese, La Taqueria and Nopalito for Mexican. Bars: Hit North Beach and Little Italy and cruise around. Vesuvio Cafe, Devil's Acre, Savoy Tivoli, and Bimbos 365 are all within drunk walking distance and all great. Nightlife: No matter what kind of music or vibe you're going for, SF probably has it. There are events damn near every night. Monarch, DNA Lounge, Midway, Underground SF, and Audio are all good picks if you're into electronic shit.

Peppertheredfox

Dude, LA is cool if you go to Orange County, visit Huntington Beach and cruise down to San Diego. Because that’s the spot. Gaslight district is better than anywhere in LA SF was my stomping grounds. So take your lady to Italian on north beach after a day at fisherman’s wharf. Catch a giants game (dress warm) then walk right up to your hotel surrounded by bars and nightlife. Next day, cross the golden gate and hit Stinson beach before a lovely day in wine country

tke248

Its coverage area is already bigger than Waymo’s in Austin and SF

moorhound

I guess my new trading strategy after today is flying to Dallas/SF and trying to get run over by a robotaxi/waymo for a lawsuit

Tomato-Tomato-Tomato

Lol, what? First, moving to SF is the best thing I could’ve done for my net worth, I make way more money here. Secondly, I bought a condo in my home town when I came back from Iraq as well. It’s been a solid investment, but what I’m saying is that for how hard I’ve worked and for how hard I’ve min/maxed my life, I still don’t have access to the shit my parents had access to while being much less educated doing much lower status jobs, having 3 kids, a home, etc. It is undeniably much harder these days even when you do everything right. I did everything in my power to save and invest. I will be a millionaire before 36, but only because I chose to live like a college student until 34.

moorhound

Well, today's gonna be either another port blow day for me or I'm gonna make back the $2k dropped on a birthday bender in SF last night

onamixt

Got it, loading up SF calls

UnitedAd7254

As another mid 30s millennial, sorry bro, but you did far from everything right. Moving to SF was probably your biggest. First off you obviously pissed away your 4 years in service since that put you "behind". You know how many of our friends got free housing, food, and training while getting paid? That right there should have been a massive head start. I got out of the Army, finished the degree I had all but completed while in, and bought my first house in 2016. Met wife same year, together we sold that place in 2022 and upgraded to nearly 3x the space. Current family of 4, combined we're about mid 200s and live very comfortably in one of the hottest housing markets. And I did piss away at minimum 2 years of my life trying to drink myself to death, and was/am a very low achieving millennial. If you were such a "high achieving millennial" you wouldn't be living in SF eating beans and rice complaining about life. Everything isn't always black and white, stop being so pessimistic.

moorhound

Goddamn, SF is fuckin POPPIN. Thursday night in North Beach and every bar is packed

DrSpacecasePhD

There are also echos of 2008. Commercial and housing real estate as being held as guaranteed investments, even as downtowns are half empty and the news cites dying businesses, crime, and drug addled zombies roaming the street. Closures in the Chicago loop (major shopping district) are still double the pre-pandemic level, and downtowns like San Francisco, Oakland, and Baltimore are half ghost towns. Malls too are dying en masse. Yet rent on a commercial property in SF is $10,000-$20000 a month, even as the properties sit empty. I’ve seen this play out in a couple of cities now. Obviously real estate is not everything, and as Tony Soprano said “god ain’t creating more of it,” but when everyone and their uncle is expecting housing prices to increase infinitely concurrently with layoffs of young people (30,000 fired by DOGE alone), tech workers, and scientists, I question who the eventual buyers or payees of these insane rents and mortgages will be.

FuckleUp

Not ghey not bher but gonna be a ghey bher on AAPL tomorrow like a sailor arriving for Fleet Week in SF

Stayvan

About to see a rebound like no other in SF luxury market aren't we?

moorhound

Anyone if SF know how much the a la carte stuff at Nari costs? I don't wanna email that bih

Think_Opportunity226

NY,LA SF, Seattle … Colorado .. should I go on

tstrand1204

VFF expanding Canadian cannabis cultivation capacity (say that 5 times fast) by 550,000 SF by converting the rest of its Delta 2 greenhouse in BC. Funding with cash on hand. Organic expansion, love to see it.

Aerion_CA

Interestingly enough, I just read a SF novel exactly picking up that picture you described.

jebuizy

They went all in on tech growth stocks. Bring SF based probably informed that mindset.  not saying she has not benefited from the position, Paul pelosi is precisely the profile of the type of investor who you'd expect to do have done extremely well over the past decade, congressional connections or not.

findingmike

Nope, it's the same agency. There are revisions as additional data comes in after the numbers are released. However, last month's numbers looked fishy. They claimed local/state governments had added 80k jobs. I live in a major metro area (SF) and we had layoffs in the local governments - no one was hiring. They lied.

audi27tt

Appreciation in the SF real estate market, assuming that’s where he is, is far from guaranteed with remote work

Due_Somewhere7891

I'm from the SF world, to me they feel like they're playing defence. They needed to buy Informatica just to get the complaints on Data Cloud off the board. Still needs to be integrated but that to me is kinda desperate. They are really upping prices at every contract renewal, chasing the overages on contracts, etc. Isn't a growth stock anymore as people mentioned. And the string of bad acquisitions (Slack but who still remembers Quip, lol) has not helped them either. AgentForce not selling for a damn as it's too ineffective and overpriced.

IWantToPlayGame

I'm in the SF Bay Area as well. These are my thoughts: * Your assumptions only work if your numbers play out exactly. Whose to say in 5 years that house isn't $2M? Whose to say in 5 years the market doesn't take a dive or trades neutral for the next 5 years? Whose to say your income/job doesn't change in 5 years? * Buying my home was one of the best things I could have done. It gives me mental peace. Yes stuff breaks. Yes property tax & insurance go up. But I know I won't have to hop around or deal with crazy landlord increases/shenanigans. It's mine and is my home, not just a house. There's excel math and there's real life math. Part of having a well-balanced life (for me) is owning my home. Could my investments be higher today had I continued to rent? Sure. But life isn't all about spreadsheet math. I say buy the home now/asap if you love it and can afford it.

jpk195

SF robotaxis will be Tesslers driven by people (dressed as robots ?). 🤡

NVDAismygod

I never want to hear how San Francisco is so walkable. Yea sure your 3 block neighborhood in SF is walkable then it’s vast swathes of randoms shit and hills with only apartments

OrdinaryMix4013

tesla pumped based on friends and family ride share in SF? LMAO

ElectricalGene6146

Neither is Aurora. Cruise was far more successful at their peak than Aurora is now. Aurora has 1 truck sort of doing autonomous trucking. Cruise had about 50 robotaxis on the road at the time in SF.

VegableProperties

Tesla still up over ten dollars today, must be excited for the SF robotaxi expansion where family and friends are driven by a human, a taxi service known as "driving a car around"

SignificantGlove9869

hard to say. eu deal is a little bit bullish, but the SF rumor turned out to be fake.

ShotBandicoot7

TSLA? On the SF taxi trial news?

SignificantGlove9869

so the SF robotaxi news have been complete fake news?

orgasm-enjoyer

Dudes who think this way basically all live in SF or NYC or some place where women won't fuck a guy if he don't virtue signal

glorifindel

SF robotaxi announcement. I have a couple puts still. Methinks the rollout will have hiccups and hijinks so plan to hold for a few more days at least

Due-Freedom-5968

It's the exact same way Waymo started in SF, it's just the rules here.

SignificantGlove9869

robotaxi launch in SF this weekend

Waste-Head7963

Not true. They got the permit for SF in Q3 of last year. They now have the same level of permit as Waymo and Zoox.

Mother-Chipmunk2778

I think it’s just an algo pump off headline today that robotaxi could be expanding to SF, if that gets delayed though it’s gna tank again

Waste-Head7963

Running on news. Robotaxis will be in effect in SF this weekend.

No_Programmer3248

**Robotaxi San Francisco launch**: Tesla plans to launch its robotaxi service in San Francisco this weekend with invite-only rides in a geofence spanning SF, Marin, East Bay, and San Jose. This follows Austin’s earlier deployment. Commercial permits in California are still pending

bdavid21wnec

Robotaxis is SF. Never count TSLA out, just getting started!!!

sonsueko

Robotaxi launch in SF this weekend? Is that why Tesla is up?

ShotBandicoot7

🌮-post after 🍈 seems to have Epstein-leverage over him, and also 🍈 and Dan Ives touting it will be a 20 trillion company, and also robotaxi (with human safety driver) apparently goes live in SF.

J-E-S-S-E-

Tesla: we’re doing robotaxi in SF Investor: ah so you have permits? Tesla: ________

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