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rbraalih

Why would toilet paper have fallen post WW1, did people stop wiping out of respect for the dead?

Urzuck

Stocks supergreen while the USd will look like toilet paper after WW1.

BigBossShadow

Oh they all already know what it look like. From an investing standpoint. It looks like owning hard assets. If its not in your possession you have nothing. From a societal/political aspect it looks like WW3.

LurkerV1

WW3 ramps into overdrive would be my guess 🤷‍♂️

Salty-Bid1597

So did he invade Iceland yet? I hear they never said thanks for winning WW2.

siazdghw

The entire global economy implodes. I'm not even kidding. For anyone thinking that dumping US bonds will magically save their country or even put them ahead of the curve, you have no idea how bad it will get if it ever happens (but it's extremely unlikely to). It would also very likely cascade into WW3 or at least several major wars, such as China invading Taiwan and the US invading god knows where. Because there's no better boost to the economy than getting the war machine going and then taking from another country.

DownSyndromSteven

I wasn’t watching the news for a week, is WW3 fear still in the background

LastUltimateY0l0

I’d buy TUNGF if I could but it’s not on my broker 😭 that and the Australian one haha, was planning to divide my portfolio among those 3 From what I can work out, it’s been around since WW2 unused really, a uk company bought it in mid 2010’s and it was producing but apparently they kept damaging the ore and had other complications

stumblios

The theory is plausible, but I think the world would treat the problems similarly. Assuming it's true, I think it means some combination of the following: * There were fewer Trump voters, but still enough to make the election close enough to rig. * Republicans can steal elections without the White House. * Democrats lack the ability and/or desire to fight. Just look to Russia - The *entire* world knows Putin is not a democratically elected leader, but what does it change? You can reduce trade or sanction a rogue state, but unless you want to kick off WW3, you don't go to war with a super power. The strategy seems to be "let them coast until they eventually collapse".

ShadowLiberal

Social Security IS NOT adding to the debt, it's completely self funded. Medicare is a different story, it's budget problems are projected to just keep on getting worse and worse overtime by the Congressional Budget Office due to how rapidly our healthcare costs are rising. Also yes the military spending is a problem. But social welfare programs look worse in long term projections because you can't make long term projections about military spending, since you have no idea what wars/etc. we'll get into in the future. Imagine for example trying in 1935 to make a 20 year estimate of US military spending without any idea that WW2 would happen, a war that piled up so much debt by the US government that their national debt was more then 100% of the US's GDP.

trumpdiego

##WW3 & Civil War breakout simultaneously. ##Spy -0.5%

randomnameforme123

Bers were wrong about: Tariffs, WW3, AI bubble popping, attack on the fed's independence, AI bubble 2, WW3 & Tariffs combined All in the last two months 😂 maybe its time to just buy calls

PMacha

The last battle that battleships payed a decisive role in was the Battle of Jutland, in WW1, in 1916. Throughout WW2, battleships would either get sunk by torpedoes, or be glorified off shore bombardment platforms. The Yamato, Bismarck, Tripitz, and the Prince of Wales wasted steel and manpower that could've been directed towards actually useful things.

Agitated_Iron_7

A highly emotional decision that will assuredly cause you to lose money in the long term. Let’s talk actual investing here. What country is a better investment than the US? There are many reasons why America is the powerhouse it is. For one, the US has been helped being oceans away from adversaries and having pathetically weak neighbors. All of Asia and Europe look like another powder keg ready to blow, similar to WW1.

mani_tapori

Relax, WW3 is already priced in.

corndog_messiah

WW3 will be the “Coalition of the Peaceful” against the “Brotherhood of Pacifists”

zuiopasdf

He is the best only as playing victim all the time and blowing up his ego. All others are incapable and did nothing in and after WW2. Like there was no allies only USA.

SilverPrivateer

Japan is not legally allowed to develop much of their military (still!) in the same way that Germany is not allowed to get nukes. However, because war robots weren't invented in WW2, there is a loophole for investing in them. Imagine all of the budget that would go to planes... subs... guns... it's all going to be put into mechs

JosephPatrick83

This is the most important thing not many people realise. All the systems of the 'free' world were set up under US administration since the end of WW2. Everything in some way directly benefits the only Empire left in town. In just over eighty years, however, the US has destroyed the Empire they set up, with direct buy-in from other nations, not even coercion, and for what? To own the libs? Or is there something even darker being planned on the horizon? I'm no conpiracy theorist, but damn. How dumb are the people actually running the US government right now?

AwarenessReady3531

Nah, they'll happily walk it back. This whole Greenland thing has walked them outside of their safe space for the first time since the end of WW2. If all it takes to go back to "rules-based international order" is putting on a deal they were working on already, they will. The only ones who seem to have any balls about this are the French and I think that's just their kneejerk Anglophobia speaking anyway.

SirNedKingOfGila

WW3 memes are gonna be so lit that people won't even remember that badger all your base shit.

Overall-Fold-9720

Isn't the US already allowed to have bases in Greenland since after WW2 ? The art of the deal, negotiating what you already have

iShitBloodandCumShit

Remember when Berz were convinced WW3 was starting and we were all going to fucking die/go bankrupt and it was going to be a months long sell off? Lmao.

CasherburyTales

The liberal cucks hoping for WW3 sure are salty

Artistic-Ebb9174

Denmark is not a person. He didn’t fight the germans in WW2 and he is the most german ww2 personification ever made. He is more german than anybody even understands.

GOOGAMZNGPT4

It's going to prove to be an idiotic move by them in the long term. US Treasury Bonds are desired because they are the most secure investment on planet earth, and will remain so for the foreseeable future minus a global catastrophe, nuclear war, or alien interference. Those things don't even guarantee the downfall of US bonds, merely it represents a potential opportunity to shake the box enough for something else to land on top. USA has the economic edge, regulatory edge, science and technology and innovation edge, AI edge, soon-to-be nuclear power edge, military edge, space edge..... while Europe is inventing plastic bottle lids that won't detach from the safety ring. It doesn't matter who the US president is or what their policy is, which is transitory on 2 or 4 year timescales. Europe is going to get pinched and find itself in deep shit. It's spoiling its own relationship with the US, overcommitting to green energy and Ukraine, and is economically self-stifling, and is bursting apart at the seams from NATO to the EU facing non-alignment when the shit gets tough. We're looking at a multi-polar world where China rules Asia, Russia will be the dominant military force in Europe, and US will expand its interests in its own hemisphere. These 3 world powers aren't going to be wholly at war nor isolationists, rather they will strategically enhance trade with each other for natural resources - and Europe will culturally decay from within while having no labor volume, no skill, and no resources to bring to the table. The moment Russia and China, or god forbid, Russia and USA relations warm and normalize - then the balance of power and quality of life will shift rapidly for West Europe who will find themselves irrelevant on the global scene. Defenseless, skill-less, resourceless. The Europe that exists today only exists by exploiting the US trade market, exploiting NATO funding, exploiting post-WW2 rebuilding, basking in the collapse of the Soviet Union. This 80 year post-WW2 new world order liberal stasis bubble is quickly collapsing and Europe is going to be left without a chair. Decoupling from the US economy and antagonizing your boss is such an on-brand self-inflicting wound for Europeans to overcommit to.

TurelSun

IDK, if he manages to set off WW3 all the memes might die.

Huskies971

Idiots need to realize we played world police to obtain deals for the best interest of our country that turned us into a powerhouse post WW2. We designed the framework now they're bitching about countries following that framework.

ShoeBaD

Have you been on reddit? They think WW3 is starting today lol

J_da_CPA

WW3 was about to start over Greenland lmao

Opposite_Engine_6776

Bears were hoping for WW3 but instead got concepts of a framework, and another TACO

vertigo88

They have. First tariff threat in April sent shockwaves. Since that event, after TACOing again and again, markets ignored the threats. Only WW3 caused a dip. Had it been any other president it would have caused the first level trigger. Because it is Trump and his words are completely hollow, -2% and a recovery thereafter.

Renegade_Hat

Fucking loser has to threaten WW3 to manipulate markets since they’ve priced him being a pathetic cunt in. Pathetic what this country has gone to, and each day I wonder when this fucking sick joke will end. Only to realize that if it ends we have to play nice with retarded fascists that have either been born into money or failed up

DISAPPOINTING_FAIRY

it's not going to dump until a bank fails or WW3 actually starts for real

shindiggaa

Did WW3 start? Why the pump?

Internal_Field5970

Does anyone know which day next week is our next WW3 doomerism?

Zealousideal-889

Damn I was really hoping WW3 would just start already

Happy_Discussion_536

For the next 2-3 years, it's going to constantly "feel" like the world is on the edge of disaster, WW3, total collapse. Then seemingly nothing happens. Eventually the long term consequences of stuff like the fake Greenland invasion threat will materialize. But in the meantime, the world will keep spinning. Layoffs will stay ultra low. Nominal growth 8%-9%+, double digit earnings growth. Money printer keep going brrrr, credit loose and once the dust settles, back grinding to new ATHs.

ShittyUsernane1222

🥭 board of peace is an elaborate nuclear blackmail scheme. we all know someday 🥭 wont TACO and actually incite WW3. Trumps board of "peace" essentially will force countries to be subjugated to 🥭's and only 🥭's economic interests in exchange for not getting nuked or Maduro'd by 🥭. In its charter it even says 🥭 is member for life.

Xijit

I am pretty sure we just watched what Historians will credit as the start of WW3.

rickdeckard8

And I learned that the Spanish Flu ended WW1! That’s some deep knowledge from a guy that can’t pronounce acetaminophen.

AnraoWi

Well or in the case of Germany, it was dismantled because after WW2 Germany was not to be trusted with a military.

girlincognitow

because demand is ramping up for the AI robot control grid and WW3

Patient_Anybody4314

You'd be surprised how many Americans actually talk like this... The amount of times Americans told me "they won WW2"... I always asked them if they were Russian lol. Then asked them if they are Canadian

risker15

It was way worse because it was a war zone but that doesn't make Saddam the kind of dictator you describe, where people can go about their business and be non-concerned about things like being conscripted to go in a WW1 style trench war with Iran with zero concern whether you survive or not, be gassed in a sarin attack or have your daughter kidnapped and raped by security forces. That simply isnt happening in the US right now, as bad as the situation is. Cannot believe im actually debating the idea that Trump's America is comparable to Saddam's Iraq and people just "lived their lives" in his Iraq. You are the one needing a reality check. 

SangerGRBY

WW3

WorkingCorrect1062

WW3? is that good enough catalyst for ya

rmath3ws

Is this the same Churchill, who oversaw 3 million people starving to death in India, (plus more in other colonies) said this? Rich, coming from him! Just because he was on the right side of history during WW2 doesn't make him a hero. Churchill was a racist and is responsible for death of millions. His quotes are worthless.

SnepbeckSweg

You've completely ignored my main points that American hegemony was always built on might makes right - WW2 ended with American nukes dropping on civilian cities and the new order began with the American military industrial complex looking for new markets under the guise of international cooperation. I agree with you that it would be best to improve on the American liberal project as opposed to sprinting back in time, however that actually requires improving on that project. In the last 80 years, more of that time has been spent going backwards as opposed to forwards and American politics has been dominated by an oligarchy that will always favor fascism over improving the lives of citizens within that liberal project. Thus, American hegemony will inevitably lead to American fascism. You said it yourself that you left the democratic party due to their overwhelming support for imperialism in 2003, I don't know why you're convinced I'm a tankie because that support informs my conclusions. It seems to me that you see that as a failure of the moment as opposed to systemic failure which I do not agree with.

Hot_Frosting_7101

Don’t listen to the naysayers.  If you ever say you will sell there are hundreds on these forums ready to pounce. If this is a principled stance, good for you. If the geopolitical risks are too high, then do what you feel is right for you. I am considering doing the same.  Nobody knows if war is going to break out but if it does shit will hit the fan.  This isn’t WW2 where the US mainland is mostly isolated from the conflict.  This would be very different and devastating for all. IMO, if I sell (near all time highs BTW) and stocks climb 15% in the next few months, I will consider it a risk management decision.  I will not stress over it. This is not timing the market.  The geopolitical risks are higher than they have been in 75 years, all because a narcissistic egomaniac is near death and wants a splash for his legacy.  Most likely he will TACO but does anyone really know? If Europe sinks a carrier like they did in the war games about 20 years ago, things would crash like we have not seen since 1987.

Jutrakuna

France kept its own defense industry after WW2 while the rest of the west just dismantled theirs. F

SangerGRBY

1. Japan 10Y yield goes ballistic 2. Trump still wants Greenland but not CONSIDERING using force YET. 3. Silver paper price and real price gap 4. WW3 not off the table CALLS OR PUTS?

Happy_Discussion_536

European leaders up late every night scrambling like headless chickens and drawing up plans for potential WW3. 🌮: oh shi my bad, you didn't know it was a just a troll?

torino_nera

In 1939, the US military existed of about 100,000 troops and equipment dating back to WW1. If they entered when Europe did it would have been bad for everyone involved. It was better to have them manufacture war equipment to give to Europe and use that time to train an army that wasn't just desperate poor people who were broke from the Depression

ledow

Only ever happened once in the last many-many-hundred-years. The pound sterling was the de-facto reserve currency for centuries. Longer than the US has even existed for. After WW2, the USD emerges and takes over because of the HUGE wartime costs and debts to the US from the UK. We only finishing paying those debts back about 10 years ago. Literally once in recorded history this has happened. Because of a global war, and a shrinking empire, and a whippersnapper of a country suddenly becoming very powerful. The US is, by comparison, a toddler in both age and sensibility. It can go just as quickly as it arrived.

Patient_Leopard421

Churchill's priorities were, 1) preserving the British empire after the war, and 2) liberating Europe. In that context, lecturing others on doing the "right thing" (in the context of WW2) is a bit problematic. If the war was fought to liberate Europe and defeat Nazism then campaigns and resources sent to North Africa and Italy could have been devoted to those more direct tasks.

SnepbeckSweg

Within years of WW2 ending, we sent an American general under the guise of this 'international rules based system' to push American interests on a people that did not want what we were selling. Before the dawn had even faded on this new order, we were already slaughtering Koreans in the name of American profit. I don't need to be a tankie to laugh at those who fall for American exceptionalism. A world built on American hegemony will inevitably lead to American fascism. I am not going to take geopolitical advice from someone that got chills from Mark fucking Carney.

mattyp2109

He read (saw a meme or something) that we achieved peace in WW2 by dropping nukes…maybe taking that approach

BoldestKobold

> It has always baffled me how the richest country in the world thinks it is being ripped off. Because America's only meaningful cultural core is selfishness, particularly post WW2. We always think we are entitled to everything from everyone. If anyone has any nice things at all, we figure we deserve it and they don't. Essentially our only national principle is narcissism.

LevriatSoulEdge

He could be right, if WW3 starts and all the financial institutions declare bankrupt after US lost all their military force by isolated BRUTUS calls.... But hey that's my guess

HamunaHamunaHamuna

You can take Greenland, but then you'll be at war with NATO, surrounded on both sides by land and have China circling the pacific like a shark with blood in the water. Besides, the US have not fought a single one of the top 50 economies since WW2, and it's hard to call many of the war since then American victories. Now you're gonna fight pretty much all of the top 50 economies except the US itself all at once, some with nukes, starting from a position with enemy troops on your doorstep, no allies, mounting risk of insurrection, and you think it's gonna be anything like what you've experienced before?

spacemanospaceman

WW3 mentioned...

TACO_Orange_3098

WW I ended because of Spanish flu ..........

whatssenguntoagoblin

Spanish flu ending WW1 is a new one lmfao

SnepbeckSweg

“Man, how did we get here” > if you’re a believer in American hegemony and how things have worked for the past seventy years like I am Oh that’s right, because moderates slurp up American exceptionalism and the pillaging we have done since WW2. This is the mindset of the average democrat voter, we should keep pillaging the world using economic threats on those too white to bomb.

TheFreshOne

Back to 690 today and all is well with the world... until WW3.

ManufacturerFirm9471

I am the best, no one does more for NATO than me. Windmills, Greenland, Iceland, the price of pills, WW2

FrankSwimGood

He just said Ukraine war is worse than WW2….

KiraJosuke

So far he has riffed about how the US saved everybody in WW2, how the 2020 election was stolen, and windmills.

Stack_Johnson

“TRUMP ON WW2: WITHOUT US, YOU WOULD ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN OR A LITTLE JAPANESE, PERHAPS” wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence

jstvndrpls

Motherfucker dropping the "no WW3" like an iPhone announcement

troublethemindseye

This is also an extremely dumb and reductionist take which is actually accounted for in the Canadian PM’s speech when he says we all know that great powers have traditionally bent the rules to their liking but this is new in the modern post WW2 era for the USA.

FullCopy

We Greenland back. We still have the receipts from WW II.

Apprehensive_Seat_61

WW2? Idiot omg he is lost

Demogorgonaut

WW2 - we won it big (DJ Trump, 2026)

brute-forced

Imagine thinking we NEED Greenland. What a fucking moron. We need Mexico and Canada too, right? We need “total” control, right? WW3 will be fought on our homeland if this continues.

Commercial_Seat_3704

Lol bro reminiscing about WW2 on the world stage

Something_Sexy

If you are trading based on the thought WW3 is a possibility. You don’t want paper stocks.

Fun_Slip_4350

I like how I’m more worrying about my puts than Muricaaaa leaving NATO and WW3 starting

GomaN1717

>especially now with these new dangers of WW3. Just like when the "end of the US market" last April, right? How'd that selloff work out?

Fantastic_Pirate3948

Quickly becoming the German reichmark post WW1

Outside_Shopping6861

New dangers of WW3 😂😂 u guys on reddit are so funny

uselessapparatchick

Yeah, by design, as the US didnt want Europe to militarize post WW2

LittleBeetle777

They worked for 80 years against the entire world bro 😂 It’s called the Post WW2 Rules Based Order, have you heard of it?

Mjhudson65

There's a 3rd option for today as well. 🥭 Assassi🅱️ation in Davos. Which ends in WW3. So LMT calls are on the table.

Fun_Slip_4350

Bro literally decided to make a new UN Basically chooosing teams for WW3 This ain’t 5 a side bro

maplebaconsausage

I pulled out of US equities and am in international and Canadian equities. I feel the US market is way overvalued- especially now with these new dangers of WW3.

CaptainCoffeeStain

Japan wins WW2 80 years after it ends by holding all US debt.

Santa_009

Once again, perhaps you are right technically but when people compare to any war they're not downplaying or disrespecting victims or circumstances they're using it as a yardstick for what is unacceptable behavior. **Its not to instigate a history discussion - its merely a point of reference** Think of it like a scale of 1-100, anything past a 10 in the war scale is very bad - how bad becomes irrelevant, innocent people are displaced, killed or impacted for the rest of their lives. It could be Sadam, Gaddafi, Hitler or even Netanyahu - they're all different levels but no one cares about who was technically 'worse', it's not a competition people want to keep track of. The key takeaway is its all fucked, shouldn't happen and intolerable. Tldr; We know WW2 and the Nazis were worse than this, but frankly they didn't start out like that.

iknowdemfeelsbro326

Just buy calls calls a week out. The EU is old news. Can't even manage to pay back their WW2 debts

kloppmouth

You do realize he’ll just start WW3 if everyone tries to fuck with him? The US military has spent 40% of military spending in the world over the last 30 years. There is a pretty good chance he will just take you by force and much of the rest of the world. I get that he is not who the world wants to work with, but he wants deals that reflect that he could just instantly kill you. If you don’t accept that he is probably going to kill

Worried_Quarter469

Germany started WW2 to fix its economy off the Great Depression

InvestIntrest

That's like comparing the American generation that fought WW2 to today's Americans. We're all softer than previous generations. That being said, Europe has gotten a lot softer a lot quicker than we have.

Yvaelle

No. Germans were still the bad guys in movies into the 90's (ex. Die Hard), that's 50 years after the war ended in 1945. Similar for the scare of Japan being the most advanced civilization, (ex. Japan has been in the year 2000 for the last 50 years). So sure, if WW3 is say, 2026 to 2030, then USA might be lose this stigma in 2080.

BingpotStudio

You mean when WW3 starts and conscription comes knocking on our doors?

CasherburyTales

My grandpa said he flew over Germany about 20 times in WW2 but never actually landed.

Alarmed_Watch5426

WW3 here we go! 🫡

WhiteDirty

If you read I said China will take Taiwan. China wont have to use force, they will continue to do what hey are doing everywhere. They will continue to flood europeans markets with Chinese goods and win you over with policy and affordable goods. It’s the slow burn. Then when they own you, they will pull up the ladders. It’s called dependency and right now the US is trying to shed its dependency on china. The US has no manufacturing base, and if you art not paying attention Europe is not exactly the largest producer of microchips. Your cars are next. If you don’t get US based software and military. They will either have to create their own or borrow from China. Is Europe going to throw away their free social safety net so it can afford to increase military spending? IF US LEAVES NATO. NATO countries will need to increase spending by 16% to fill the US’s shoes. And let’s just say there is WW3 and Europe fights the US. They will have to decouple entirely from US based tech? Is Europe going to create their own Microsoft? Launch their own GPS satellites? What software are they going to use to run their army? They gonna pay US corporations for the software to run their military while fighting them?

littlecreatured

The UK paid its WW2 debt in 2006

WhiteDirty

The fact is pissing off Europe is the equivalent of calling your best friend a pussy so he steps up and does the impossible. I have spent some time living in europe and they have changed majorly in such a short amount of time. They are facing drastic change economically and culturally. They are heavily dependent on the US for defence as well as digital infrastructure. I feel like EU and UK lost a generation of youth to overseas jobs and then were replaced with immigrants and today they are lost. And it happened in less than 10-15 years. Americans used to travel there to experience this kind of cultural saturation that is now gone in many of the big cities. Many cities in the world are now this way. They lost their distinction and uniqueness. They don't know what or how to innovate and grow the kind of markets we have in the US. The level of bureaucracy and red tape make it difficult. I have heard this countless times. Go try and register a business there and you will see. I can register a business in the US in 15 minutes on the internet. What is happening now is in large part due to conflicts between American corporations and the EU lawmakers who have increasingly clamped down on free speech and attacked US tech. Most of these are just petty taxes aimed at US companies. These companies have been getting an increasingly year over year increase in taxes, fines and penalties since covid. The EU has already been pushing the US out of its economy via these silent taxes its not a suprise. They have their own politicians and economy they can do whatever they want. The EU has hundreds of product specific compliance requirements in order to sell in their markets. This can be good, and can be bad.... Its bad when they are clearly with bias targeting specific corporation. At least this is the perception. But it can also encourage europe to develop their own tech. Consider for a moment the world uses microsoft products... Everything that is happening has already been wrote in stone. This is just the world once again at a standstill, unbalanced. Fighting to control the next group of resources that will dictate the next 50 years. It's the calm before the storm, and yeah its terrifying. There is not enough power on earth to do what they claim to do. And they will do whatever it takes. The amount of gold left in the world is only 1/4 of what has already been extracted and yet demand is highest in history due to electronics. The world is preparing for WW3. Probably since covid. Whoever has the resources, gets the power grid, gets the tech gets domination. The east has a leg up in that they dont have to disaasemble a titan to pivot into this new tech. This is where the US is at a dissadvantage. And this is why shit is drastic and chaotic. The west has their balls in a vice with debt and lack of a real manufacturing base. People are drawing lines in the sand, getting resources in place. As NATO partners there are expectations and i think Europe is more interested in creating a multicultural utopia than any kind of military center. As such they are basically saying when shit hits the fan we wont do a damn thing about it and America will have to sweep in and save us. Ironically with Trump they want to increase military. Funny how that happens huh. Notice how all the peaceful people want war. Its almost like it was planned that way... Europe is locking and loading and it isnt to fight the US. People need to wake up. I think there is a panic to quickly update all of NATO. Trump is reminding the west they are fat and happy. When and if China makes a grab for Tawain the west will fall and China will become a fully integrated powerhouse. They will make it seem like a break up so that nobody questions why europe just increased military spending. Nobody is prepared for the war of AI. The west should be in a panic because if its a war of small electronic drones China will win on production capacity alone. Europe laughs but they will either run to China or the US, but they will not become the center of the free world. And without the US China will speed run the destruction of the EU.