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nsfwnsfwnsfw33333

He's mustve missed the WW2 lessons. In fact I doubt he knows any history 😅

Worried_Quarter469

Realistically evolution isn’t smooth, WW3 will be a major selection event

PureCod9290

I'm dumping Monday guys. Look at polymarket odds of ground invasion. We're all cooked because bro would rather WW3 than release the Epstein files

StonksInvesteur

I’m not afraid of recession. I’m just afraid of dollar being devalued. I don’t wanna see another Germany post WW1

Worried_Quarter469

Good luck with WW3👍

milkplantation

I think it all depends on your financial goals and horizon. If you're just saving for retirement, then be aggressive. If you're looking at buying a home, saving for your child's education, buying a car, putting in a pool, etc. then your advisor could be on to something. There are a lot of red lights flashing. We're in the midst of the largest energy crisis ever, AI could be transforming the labour market, the U.S. national debt is rocketing higher, U.S. stocks are still trading at some of their most lofty valuations in the past 40 years, private credit markets are rattled, and we're seemingly in the foot hills of WW3. The greatest investor of all time Warren Buffett stepped down from his position while holding 385 billion in cash and T-bills (30% of BRK portfolio) for a reason. Valuations are high. The rest of us are playing chicken with our life savings.

SoCallMeDeaconBlues1

We bombed Vietnam for years. YEARS. And in the end we ran away with our tail between our legs. Asymmetric warfare doesn't work like many here want to believe. And Iran is a big country with a lot more resources than any other country we've invaded since WW2 ended. You really believe they're dead in the water? The biggest mistake you can make in war is believing it's over before there is complete and utter surrender. That hasn't happened yet. And even if or when it does, there will be decades of cleanup to do. War is stupid.

ztkraf01

Congress hasn’t declared war since WW2

Me-Regarded

I've been jacking off all day (little marathon me time), have not checked in. What's going on? Any peace deal yet? Weekend futes doing anything interesting? Are ber assuring us WW3 happens on Monday?

Brokenandburnt

Movie doesn't have anything to do with it. The officers in charge are still human, with families. Would you launch a nuke and risk sparking WW3, dooming your family, for the Orange assholes pride? 

zxc123zxc123

Problem is that just being too government to fail doesn't isn't the same as being so government you'll succeed. The US autos have been basically "strategically important" since the end of WW2 but have performed horribly compared to the market.

WheresMyCane

Attacking Chinese ships would lead quickly to WW3. The US just needs to leave. They shouldn't have attacked in the first place. US leadership is incompetent and shortsighted.

WinterDice

I left a comment somewhere else in this thread about a slow walk into WW3 as different conflicts merge and others take opportunities. I think we’re thinking along the same terrifying lines.

Ok_Location_1092

^yup. Everyone talking about securing the coast is forgetting the Shahed range. This is not a war that can be won without a truly massive assault that would require immense funds, assets, and lives. It would leave Taiwan vulnerable, and push us closer to WW3. Other way to win is nukes, but then everyone loses.

WinterDice

I worry that WW3 will start with a lot of isolated conflicts that build on each other and merge. We already have Ukraine. Trump’s idiocy in the ME is likely just getting started. Maybe China will take the opportunity created by Trump’s depletion of US stores, economic pain, and distraction and finally go for Taiwan. Some idiot in the Balkans might do some idiotic Balkan thing, etc. Before you know it we might have a massive global depression and a bunch of wars that all merging into one as alliances are made and broken.

Report_Last

anyone with half a brain could see this stalemate coming. this venture was doomed from the start. this war will dribble along until we have regime change in America, or at least get Democratic control of the House. meanwhile if trump commits troops to any mission a lot of Americans will die for nothing. The US hasn't won a war since WW2. every war since 9-11 we have been told " this is nothing like Vietnam", and they all end up like Vietnam. we can just hope the war doesn't spread, and our economy doesn't tank. Ultimately, we may be forced to pay reparations to Iran.

JBe4r

Is this how WW3 starts with Operation Hormuz Homecoming?

wisimetreason

We let the Nazis in after WW2. We have had our own version for much longer, KKK and white supremacists. White people are just starting to notice. Just talk to a Black person about the state of justice in America throughout theirs, their parents and grandparents lifetime.

PuzzleheadedChip2720

Not even his sycophants are crazy enough to risk nuclear war. Grifters actually want to enjoy the money and power they've been grifting not get pulled into WW3. Someone will take him out if he ever suggests that.

TheGeoGod

I had a dream that a news anchors said that WW3 started..

SomePolack

This is WW3 but I’m sure 🥭 can pull some deal out of his ass to save the whole world Very trustworthy negotiator he is 

Worried_Quarter469

WW3 confirmed

One-Possession8942

Lol so you don't care about the shady things. Just them bragging about it . The USA military has been one of most destructive and murderous terrorists the world has ever seen . Dropping bombs from the sky into countless countries at this point . Using CIA to overthrow democracies to install friendly puppet dictatorships . No terrorist organization or rogue nation has murder more civilians since WW2 than the USA . We are not the good guys and haven't been for a long time . We lied and used a false flag for Vietnam Desert storm we had to stop Saddam after WE gave him weapons After 9/11 we invaded Iraq after Saudis did 9/11 on lies that Saddam had wmd's And on and on and on Brake your brainwashing . The USA is not a good guy . It's a super power that wants to impose it's will on others and use force to enrich the oligarchs

GoatUSA47

TSMC The US nuking Iran would reset the deterrence that has slipped since the US dropping atomic bombs on Japan in WW2. China and Russia aren’t willing to have nuclear Armageddon over Iran, and they will be more cautious with Taiwan if they know the US is willing to use nukes.

Urzuck

The same old playbook: 48 hours or i will destroy you! > markets go red, then ten minutes before the deadline: i was just joking! I meant 48 hours in 3 weeks > markets go up. While he and his buddies gets rich he's fucking the global economy and destroying the hegemonic role of the US that lasted since the end of WW2, this admin is basically what Nero or Caligula was for Rome.

QuantrixQuintrix

You just had to didn’t ya - https://x.com/deitaone/status/2040432777040965793?s=46&t=S8WW3eNzTzR1mUBhLMYMwg

Worried_Quarter469

Timing the unleashing of hell for Jesus’s resurrection anniversary was not expected WW3 before GTA6 (and market open)

Worried_Quarter469

Remember when I gave Iran ten days to MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT. Time is running out - 48 hours before all Hell will reign down on them. Glory be to GOD! President DONALD J. TRUMP ___ WW3 before GTA6 (and market open)

Salty-Bid1597

The US has never fought an existential war so hasn't ever really needed to innovate. Most new tech is just bigger, faster, better, more expensive versions of what they had in WW2. Ukraine and now probably Russia are way ahead of them in automated warfare.

Worried_Quarter469

~~Green~~ WW3 by open

callsonreddit

Last time Congress declared war was for WW2

AllCapNoBrake

A lot of you won't be watching WW3 from the comfort of your own home while wrapped in your DD214 blanket and it shows https://preview.redd.it/exn4josd06tg1.png?width=301&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac5dbef5dce88936ea79dd610d83b7dd52f698fe

DesticularDorsion

I've been saying this was WW3. Save yourselves and your 0DTEs germanbros.

TripodRedux

Clean up the mess? NATO is as impotent as the UN is worthless. And we spend countless billions on both and get chit on in the process. In a "secure" World the UN would convince NATO it would be in the World's best interest to protect the Strait of Hormuz because it uses the Strait to survive. But they won't, they'd rather buy oil from Russia as many are and just whine about his price. NATO, Clean up USA mess? Laughable... what really puts WW2 into perspective for me personally is the caricature that ran in newspapers worldwide the depicts a entire battalion of German SS soldiers marching thru the Arch de Triumph while a sharp dressed maitre d carrying a drink tray at a street side Cafe yelling " Table for 300,000"...personally i don't give a damn who protects the Strait... America doesnt need the oil, its doing the World a favor by eliminating the nuclearwarhead capabilities. However in a very sadistic way, Trump could protect it and charge every oil tanker that comes thru a $1B ... how would you like that! If you live in Europe we "cleaned up you mess"... and dont forgot it

Signal_Tomorrow_2138

I had pasted a link to a Youtube video but the auto moderator deleted it. The video describes the same pattern over 80 years of data from all the wars from WW2 to today's Trump's war with Iran.

PrivateMarkets

#remindme. I remember last year Tariffs were going to trigger the next Great Depression and the first bombing of Iran (in July 2025) meant WW3 was imminent. This years theory - oil shock beyond the 70s. Next folks….

One_Investigator_268

Yeah war escalation is bullish for oil supply, because US is known for winning wars, they’ve won almost all of them since WW2…. *sarcasm* in case youre a brainwashed American.

MissMatriarch

Going to sleep. Sure hope WW3 hasn’t started when I wake up.

Unlikely_Proof_7772

Spy all time highs on Monday Reason WW3 began

voidedhip

People I talk to IRL have absolutely no idea what's going on. Just eating their slop bowls and consuming their brain rot like WW3 isn't slowly becoming a thing and that the global economy is about to go in to a crisis. Everyone's a slug.

AntiqueProfessor5134

What we're doing in Iran is nothing compared to the punishment a nation can take and still keep trucking... the firebombing of Tokyo in WW2 killed like 100k civilians... Hegseth ain't got nothing on those war crimes. And even after that they kept going. It's almost like bombing people just makes them hate you more and want to fight you harder.

SomePolack

Welp 🥭 started WW3 with the US being totally unprepared  War time economy next year

Unlikely_Proof_7772

All time highs SPY 800 once WW3 invasions occur

Jaded-Influence6184

Only a left wing idiot thinks Gaza is genocide. 5.4 million people lived there in 2023. 5.6 million people live there now. Kind of hard to be a genocide when the population goes up by 200K. By the way, 6 million Jews were killed in the holocaust because they didn't have the homeland that the Arabs took from them. Oh and BTW, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WW2, a "Palestinian" was a friend of Hitler's and Himmler's. In fact he directly appealed to them when during a rare concession, the Nazis were going to allow a trainload of 10,000 Jewish children to be sent to the Palestinian TERRITORY (jointly owned and controlled by Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt). That "Palestinian" supposed holy man asked them to turn the train around because he was afraid of Jewish children moving in next door. So the Nazis turned the train around and sent them to be gassed in the death camps. That Mufti later went on to help start the groups that would be come Hamas (the terrorist organization that you obviously support given that Hamas runs Gaza). Your character is reflected by who you support. You support a group founded by people who were essentially Nazis (and actually sentenced for war crimes after WW2). You won't like that, but it is verifiable history. As opposed to your opinion based on terrorist propaganda.

StraitOfHummus

I've short in size on margin on the S&P with options valued more than my house. I have complete confidence Mango can start WW3 on Easter.

Unlikely_Proof_7772

WW3 Confirmed ➡️ SPY 📈

TripodRedux

Whatever your mental gymnastics are regarding World leaders is nonsense! Putin doesnt need the oil, he has is own, plenty of it.. your country is likely buying Russian oil! Putin also knows Trump is about to chitcan Zelenskyyyyyy as hes too juvenile to understand hes beaten and won't negotiate and he'll get nothing else from US... maybe "moral support", who knows probably not even that considering Zelenskyyyyyy already killed 3 generations of men and hes down to women and children. Xi is a different story though. He'd rather have Iranian oil, its easier for him to refine, but hes not gonna do WW3 over this, and so he'll stick with Russian oil, for now. So will India, and whomever else is too cowardly in NATO to protect their own best interests and get "whatever protection is needed to maintain safety" in the Strait of Hormuz.

bejammin075

With Russia & China providing real-time targeting info to the Iranians, while the US provides real-time targeting info to Ukrainians, we're already in the early stages of WW3.

SomePolack

They lost 29 soldiers in a crash this week, lost another jet today Yeah this is WW3

HappyThrasher99

Lol the canal is not the ONLY reason, its hardly even a top 5 reason for british reserve currency subordination, the advent of the american petrodollar in the middle east and the advent of the marshall plan and other nation state financing post-WW2 are the main reasons. Britain was dethroned in all of its aspects of global economic capture, the suez is just one of many occasions

ihopethisworksfornow

This is going to be the first war since WW1 where the U.S. military experiences substantial logistics issues. Calling it right now. Ain’t gonna be no Burger King on Kharg Island.

Professional-One972

It is important also to remember that “controlling the canal” not just militarily, but geopolitically is what mattered. The British were drunk with Old World power in the 50’s with WW2 and especially Iran and thought they still had weight to throw around and force unequal treaties. Nasser showed how that didn’t matter, particularly when anti-Israel sentiment gave him local support. Trump and MAGA fools think the same way about the US now. They think that taking food stamps away for drones and planes will subjugate an entire nation to their will - not understanding that coalitions and quid pro quo is what keeps the world together, not bombs and blood. FFS, getting our ass kicked in Afghanistan hasn’t helped us learn!

staythewaters

Trump said he wanted to shift to a war economy, probably to mimic WW2 style expansion. But if he uses that budget to turn around and destroy energy infrastructure or try to "take it" like he keeps threatening, then that just makes it a wash. Higher energy prices means higher prices on manufacturing and logistics, means margins start getting eaten into. Paired with the fact that much of the war spending in WWII went toward giving direct aid to rebuilding countries to bring them under the US' sphere of influence, which aided in our own expansion. If you're just spending money on military expansionism and blowing shit up, you're not going to get any return back.

Lagoon___Music

Got it, so anyone can do anything they want because the US did it at some point? So one action justified all future actions committed by anyone else? When does this timeline start? There's been wars for thousands of years -- why is only the US to blame based on your logic? Do the prior deeds "fall off" at some point and no longer justify future atrocities? What's your perspective on WW2, then? The allies killed nearly 100k German civilians in a single city. Did that also justify everything Germany do from there? Are you saying that they should never fight back then? Don't forget to not answer the above and change the subject and/or goal post instead.

A55BAG

Yeah, it would be easy to down it with any kind of anti-air weapon. Even WW2 era flak gun.

T1gerAc3

WW3 is just around the corner, so I'm not so sure the market is really forward looking.

FartPolluter

The way the entire western media is lying about losses in Iran like we are in WW2 and not in a dumbass bombing campaign started for no reason is just market manipulation.

MeYouThemEveryone

The way everyone is talking like WW3 will happen before SPY700. Keep calm, WW3 will definitely happen after next week, I mean SPY700.

ImLemonized

Somewhere in the future: \- WW3 turns into a nuclear war \- US and global economies collapse, inflation and unemployment at new record highs SPY +2%

Future-Call8541

I can't reference historical charts because you say so? This is the first major world event that has creating incredible volatility? There have been no other events? No WW I No great depression? No WW II? No cold war? No housing bubble crashes? No great recession? No dot.com bubble? Somehow these recent events are unprecedented? That's the problem with this generation; the belief that you're unique in your predicament. Somehow it's only happening to you. History rhymes man.

RagdollSeeker

I have to say, this graph is really misleading. Case in point, while Israel gets 3-6 billion USA each year, France gets 200$ last 25 years. But since graph shows aid from 1946, France still looks high, it was probably related to WW2 restoration efforts. Same with Turkiye which actually gets only humanitarian aid which peaked in 2023 due to earthquake that killed 50K people and migration aid for Syrian civil war. https://foreignassistance.gov/cd/france/

Kaplaw

And the US weaker than ever before after WW2

savethechows

WW3 really is priced in huh

Unlikely_Proof_7772

WW3 Confirmed ➡️ SPY $800

WordsHappenedHere

The stock market doubled during WW2

auroraavm

I feel like going on a food binge. I need to hedge for WW3's supply shortage.

RareGuarantee3532

Forgot to mention, Europe is naked, sheitanyahoo tryin to double or triple the size of his country and trololonald is gettin crazy not winning. If that does not turn into WW3, it will be only because Iran get nuked and if it does, they will bomb everything around. Time to invest in horses we aint gonna see Oil under 80 before long

ChewbaccaIsBear

I think the US would rather have a WW3 than just give in to China being the new boss in town without further resistance

DizzyMajor5

Iran fought Saddam while taking massive chemical weapons barrages, oil fields being lit on fire and massive WW1 style trench warfare casualties for years they're hardcore religious fanatics who were attacked 3 times during negotiations they believe the only way to not get attacked again is to have a sustained campaign that hurts the attackers even if they have to take damage doing so. The U.S. effectively took peaceful avenues off the table by doing this 3 times now sadly. 

DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Yea totally more celebrated than the end of WW2 and suicide of Hitler. Where millions, upon millions of people died horribly. Give your head a shake.

No-Contribution1070

Iran should ask for Gold as payment lmao. That would probably start WW3.

trumpdiego

ackshully the German stock market soared into WW1

tobiasfunkgay

That can be seen as a pro rather than a con though. It's the same in general society if someone has absolutely no stake in society and nothing to lose they tend to act dangerously and erratically. If Iran are making money from the strait they're now fully invested in it's security and doing anything to compromise that would be a huge blow to them not just to other countries. It's a lesson from how Germany was treated after WW1, the massive reparations they were made to pay crippled the economy, backed them into a corner and led to the rise of the Nazis and WW2 in large part because of those issues. I don't see any world where treating Iran as a pariah and giving them no stake in the strait will ever lead to a good long term outcome. You can't possibly bully a country that massive, especially not with the modern asymmetric warfare where offensive drones are super cheap and can be launched from anywhere while defending specific locations is incredibly expensive.

pickledmagahead

Why. WW3?

annon8595

How does one prosper with most extreme WW2 level debt without the WW2 level jobs and without WW2 level population boom? Population will be falling soon btw.

Sorryasaurus

Try to think of it like this. \- Look at the stock market since WW2. \- Look at what caused the great depression, look at the stock market \- You see, if the stock market is being propped up right now \- It's very logical that it was propped up since those major events way back when \- It's never been real, the US Govt picks the floor and ceiling, and it moves up every generation

One_Health_9358

WW3 is more likely than a single arrest.

deevee12

WW3 and bears can't even get a 10% dip LMAO

calm_discussion_3500

So was I, had to find jobs during dotcom bust but bro... seriously you have to shed your enormous recency bias. It's clouding your judgement big time. This isn't 08. Genuinely valuations were super fair it wasn't a bubble. But credit markets became stupidly overleveraged and overamplified with risk due to exotic derivatives that were then poorly understood. This time everyone is hyper vigilant of the smallest risk and we are printing at the smallest hiccup to prevent a crash. We're runnning WW2 deficits in peacetime to prevent a crash. Deflation is dead. We're never having it again absent a genuine unbelievable black swan we can't even fathom.

spudbro00

So apparently WW3 was just the market against bears and not in the middle east

dbd209

America could start WW3 tomorrow, and the market would front run the ending of the war and for whatever reason limit up. The stock market will never again have a sustained dip ever again, and nobody can convince me otherwise. Up only.

dbd209

Everything is bullish I guess. Oil goes to 150 a barrel? Bullish. China invades Taiwan? Bullish. WW3 begins? Bullish.

pajamageorge

WW3 is coming...but most of us will be watching it from the sidelines for the years to come. I feel horrible for those who will get pulled into the fighting.

climate-tenerife

In my admitedly rather uneducated view, i only see three courses of action: 1) boots on ground (unlikely, but i wont put anything past trump's need to save face) 2) retreat, claim victory, lose all support from US allies and crash the US economy into the ground 3) win by any means (nuke them once and threaten more unless they open hormuz and accept defeat) Or a 4th option: simply keep on throwing bombs like they currently are, and reassess next week. Does anyone else have any other ideas? To anyone who says "they won't use nukes", I do not personally put anything past trump. Trump will think that nukes ended the japanese threat in WW2; this would be just like that.

spudbro00

if there is a WW3 you would want to lower those price targets by at least another 30%

Raise_A_Thoth

Perhaps. We're in a period of violence, changing geopolitical dynamics, and escalation that, if this *did* escalate to a legitimately global all-out war, then yes, history would definitely look at March 2026 and say they had already begun WW3. But we haven't reached a point where it would qualify as WW3 yet, thankfully. Still can get horrifically nasty before a WW level event. Remember Korea and Vietnam were not WW3.

Secret_Block_8755

I fear that only makes the problem worse. Think post WW1 Germany.

Secret_Block_8755

I fear that only makes the problem worse. Think post WW1 Germany.

icearus

Were there "good guys" in WW2?

ThreeTonChonker

1. Lots of people came to the realization that gold and silver are outdated assets. People in the past month who tried to sell their physical gold and silver realized that only an exchange or pawn shop would buy it, but never for current value. Not to mention the fees that get stacked onto these transactions. Gold and silver as a stock or index fund is all vibes and paper. The exchange isn’t required to hold physical gold or silver so the entire market is fraudulent. Finally - the charts don’t lie, the outlook for gold doesn’t look good if you look at a 10Y chart and imagine the price reverting back to the mean. 2. AI stocks - I think this sector is in the same flux that the browser wars were experiencing during the 2000s. If you could go back in time and invest in Google, of course you would. But hindsight is 20/20, would you have avoided AskJeeves, Yahoo, AltaVista, etc? 3. BTC is the future. All of the problems of gold and silver are defeated. Crypto in general I don’t have much faith in, but Bitcoin is different, it’s unfortunate that Bitcoin is surrounded by the clown show of crypto. Closest comparison is the internet. Old people back then hated the internet and talked nonstop about how pen and paper will never be replaced. Some people would become truly upset if you forced email and websites onto them. The greatest generation (WW2 era adults) never adapted. Same thing with BTC. It’s clear boo mers are really struggling with wrapping their heads around it and become very upset at any mention of it. But that will change within 10-20 years when the boo mers are gone. I think BTC will go down as the greatest investment in history due to its utility as a store of value. It is still very early and yet the entire world is already starting to see the purpose of BTC. When shit hits the fan, people say they want gold, but never ask themselves how they would sell it. You can sell BTC to someone halfway across the world for current market value and get the money transferred into your account within 1-2 days. The utility is unbeatable and the trust is there since it cannot be hacked and there’s no CEO of Bitcoin, it is a machine that runs itself with no egomaniac to screw it up.

Maximum-Cash7103

Yeah as if the impending WW3 wasn’t bad enough.

Jaded-Influence6184

There have been war crimes in the 21rst century. But there have been no genocides. If you can point at a country or region and show virtually all members of an identifiable group have been killed off, then I'll take it back. Like 90%. For instance, in WW2 there were virtually no Jews, or Jehovah's Witnesses, and others left in Poland by the end of WW2. For example, at the start of WW2, 3.3 million Jews lived in Poland, by end of the war 380K; the difference went into the ovens or body pits. THAT's a genocide. The meaning of 'genocide' has been co-opted by left wing groups using the term to prop up their own arguments. It doesn't work. It's akin to using a word to define itself. I'm not saying in places recently that what amounts to war crimes have happened, but no to the level of genocide. You are minimizing what happened in real genocides by doing what you are doing.

softboiledjadepotato

After educating us on the timelines of WW1 and WW2.. must have taken the full strength of his remaining 9 brain cells not to say our WW3 will be swifter

I_am_Nerman

You wouldn't have survived WW2

OwnDoughnut2689

While not formally declaring war, congress has voted on resolutions for nearly every war after WW2, with some exception for Korea.

thenuttyhazlenut

I think Israel sees trump's presidency as an opportune moment to wage war on their enemies and have the US back them. They feel as if it's their time. The same way the Germans released their pent up resentment for Europe in WW2.

QuantrixQuintrix

He legit brought up WWI, WW2, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan as justifying the length SO FAR of this “excursion”.

poorat8686

Just going to say that the conspiritards were all fucking right all this time and you fucks called us crazy but it was all real you’d better start betting on conspiracies and dried beans boys this is a prelude to WW3

Difficult_Youth_8367

I know, I’m like bro keep the WW3 chat lowkey.

Several_Vanilla8916

“Compared to WW2 this really isn’t so bad. You know. For me.”