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CumomEileen

WW and LCID if you really hate money

CumomEileen

Buying the dip on MSFT. Hopefully this will turn out better than the previous dips I have bought, namely ZM, WW, LCID and TLT

Fkn1v1mem8

Dollar pumping means equity prices decline. 🥭 says he’s going to double the stocks and housing market. He plans on crushing the dollar. WW2 inflate the national debt away scheme. Will foreign entities dump treasuries and bonds? Will 🇨🇳 become global reserve currency? Find out this week on SELL AMERICA

_bicycle_repair_man_

That's nice but I'm down 2k on gold till WW3 anyway

TrumpChildOnahole

Nothing is permanent, even Germany and Japan quickly came back economically after freaking WW2. Which is much worse than an orange guy making mean comments daily 

Glam34

How many times in the last 6 months have we went from ATH euphoria to Panic sell WW3 all within a 48 hour window?

neutralpoliticsbot

no WW3 mentions from the bears so not yet the bottom. Once they start saying complete nonsense about global financial collapse buy calls.

ZombieFrenchKisser

So what is causing this crash? 37 of current admin are involved with Epstein, Metals crash. Crypto crash, New US Fed Chairman threatening our glorious QE, shit economy and job losses, Europe and Asia exiting the US market, WW3 threats, or that Trump shat himself?

HomeMadeToast

Of all the options I hope the end comes from aliens and not something dumb like WW3 or the plague

sushilee123

What exactly is the narrative here? WW3? Recession? 🥭market? Ghyna?

sentrypetal

US was an export economy post WW2. Just incase you forgot.

ssv-serenity

I did some research out of curiosity on this. I guess they'd import horses to the Clare region and ship them down to Oklahoma for farm work since it was a new territory. Something along those lines. https://archive.ph/20150210045033/http://www.percheronhorse.org/origin/default.html Based on this article it seems like the import market tanked with WW1, unfortunately for obvious reasons.

db-2603

Hopefully no WW3

Crazy-Canuck463

Fair enough. Larger economies would just hoard physical assets, which is a large contributor to the depression of the 30s. But by no means should it be any individual nations currency. Back post WW2 they should have stuck with the plan to create a currency for international trade. The US seen the advantages of using the USD and convinced others to use the USD. And its been weponized ever since.

MrDinglehut

We were better after WW2 because they took all the rich peoples money and burned it.

jizzinmyeyes69

The 3 people stuck on an island scenario has a million different outcomes, but no matter who has what, I think it boils down to which one of them is the most cold-hearted and ruthless. Fun to discuss though haha. That is true about Bitcoin... And Bitcoin only has value when things are stable. When society collapses or WW3 breaks out people will be selling their bitcoin to buy tins of beans, or lumps of coal or gold if they can't get the first two. But dude please do show gold some more respect, because it's more than just a pretty element found within rocks... look what it can do for us when it comes to electronics, healthcare, space exploration etc. Even in this day and age of science, they still cannot make gold. Gold can only be made in outer space when stars collide... You have to admit that is pretty fucking cool

InAJar112

Maybe it will distract him from inflicting worse damage. Like WW3.

DerkleineMaulwurf

He’ll win in the end though. The first domino is already falling with the nomination of a new Fed chair to finish the USD for good. Tell me...what will people run to once there are early signs of hyperinflation and a serious erosion of trust in the dollar? For real, even if you think it will “somehow” work out, U.S. debt is already larger than economic output. A debt spiral is basically guaranteed. Markets are just nervous right now: shutdown risk, potential Iran conflict and oil price shocks, new (even more insane) tariffs, starting WW3 to distract from auctioning minors, and civil unrest because of ICE.

EKEEFE41

All this grand talk about Bitcoin he's just never materialized. * It is not a safety asset for when markets crash, shit... It mirrors the market. * It doesn't make markets and fiscal policies more disciplined. If anything it opened the doors to ETH shitcoin pump and dumps. * At the age of 54 I have come to the conclusion that we could conceivably devolve into a civil war in the US.... I never thought this was possible, I always figured people would need their diabetes medicine more than they want to get involved with social unrest. Yet here we are... If the USA falls into a mess WTF you think happens in Ukraine? Bitcoin will be useless in WW3, sell Bitcoin, buy guns. And that's why today I would like to announce the release of my new block chain project GunCoin!

CardiologistEqual336

WW3 will be a distraction from the Epstein files

ggbcdvnj

1941-2000, 59 years of history, including WW2, is cherry picking?

cowboycookie1337

I swear to god if we start WW3 to protect the president from a 🧃blackmail plot I’m gonna flip the fuck out. 2/2 SPY 695c

upwy

I will not watch any WW2 movies this weekend. hollywood only wants me to watch movies on that one war apparently.

battleship61

The issue becomes financial logistics. How do you pay such a vast military staff? Especially abroad. The collapse of almost every empire has been the tentacles are too far away and cost too much to finance. Not to mention, the USA can't fall back on agriculture or manufacturing to make up the defecit. Americas depression was 1929-1939. America didn't wnter WW2 until 1941. There's probably some pretext, but even still. The logistics then an allies' support networks a difference. The USA has made enemies of all its former allies.

DoubleFamous5751

Will never forget this comment from the daily a few years ago: “Bears wishing for WW3 to start so they can make 200 dollars”

hotleadburner

Something something US after WW2

AzenNinja

It's mainly governments, and governments don't care. As long as WW3 doesn't break out (and even then), they'll just sit on their reserves and keep their rainy day fund.

crankbird

Silver is the best conductor, but not so much so that you’d avoid using copper instead. In WW2 the manhattan project used a large amount of the silver from the us treasury to build big electromagnets for uranium enrichment, but that was because copper was in very short supply because of the war. Silver coating on the copper wire and endpoints and maybe silver zinc batteries come to a few ounces

deevee12

They actually released more files and it did not look good for fruit man He's starting WW3 this weekend isn't he

FabulousLanguage6216

Way to oversold. Unless WW3 this weekend this is extremely exaggerated

Your_Answer_Is_No

Anything to buy over the weekend as we go into WW3 and have ICE take over?

orangeyougladiator

WW3 is priced in, only direction is up

Temporary_Inner

So people are selling to get cash for WW3 to buy...? Hookers? Bottle caps? 

SangerGRBY

I think WW3 soon so people forget about Epstein files

Brokenandburnt

No one who knows anything are saying that the reserve currency status would change overnight.\ Just like everything else in finance it would take years of unwinding for governments to reduce their holdings. And as long as the US continues to export services and expensive high-tech the dollar is needed to buy it. I can't really think of a black swan that could force a catastrophic dumping of the dollar either short of a nuclear war. But all of this isn't the same as immunity. The US under Trump has proven to be a risky place for investments. The interest on the debt is getting high enough that worries are rising if it will be serviceable. Add to that there are documents published by members of the administration that openly talks about intentionally crashing the dollar to reduce the debt. Some even talks about using the threat of military force to do a soft default. Everyone has started to de-risk and hedge against the dollar, which will reduce the demand slightly. In aggregate it could alter it's status, but that's a lengthy process. But also remember that up to the end of WW2 the Pound Stirling was the reserve currency, until it suddenly wasn't.

TrainingJellyfish643

It wont be the yen, but it also doesnt have to be the dollar because everyone is going back to gold and silver lol. Pre-WW2 we didnt even have a global reserve currency, closest thing to it was the pound at only 30%. It seems that countries around the world are moving ahead with de-dollarization and that kinda opens up a whole bunch of possibilities. Frankly I think there's a likelihood we wont have a reserve currency in 20 years

high_plains_grifter_

I dunno, the British empire ended because of WW2, getting into the war straight away to defend our allies no matter the cost. America’s empire on the other hand will end because they betray their allies and they’ll dump their worthless currency

mehmilani

I always thought WW3 would be fought by robots. Looks like that has to wait until WW4.

Icy-Motor-8519

What if some random soldier in Tehran, was drunk af off his camel’s piss and shot an RPG in the air. It explodes in the air near US troops and starts WW3 by accident. Intrusive thoughts won.

CasherburyTales

My grandpappy fought WW2 so I could listen to a computer memory maker’s earnings call

10000Didgeridoos

It’s pretty obvious why: one man. You know who it is without me saying it. One guy has spent the past year intentionally changing the most powerful economy’s trade policies on an hour to hour basis as his dementia ridden brain thinks of it, blowing up every post WW2 economic and military alliance, and intentionally devaluing the dollar because he’s a fucking dumbass who didn’t get that a poorer country will never buy as much $$$ of goods from the US as the US buys from it taking advantage of the cheaper labor there. He also is actively trying to put a puppet into the fed who will lower interest rates for him back to near 0. So people are moving money out of US stocks and out of US dollars. The past year, international mid and large cap funds are up like 36% vs 16% for the S&P 500 and of course precious metals have skyrocketed. Until the lunatic at the helm is visited by three fed chair ghosts in the night, nothing about this environment is changing. It’s only going to get worse. And I didn’t even mention the ramifications of his military seizure and open discussion of seizure of other countries and their assets yet.

Brother_Obadiah

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4543343-tether-gold-holdings-latest There will be at least one more run for cryptos. I'm thinking it starts at the end of the year. BTC will be useful at the beginning of WW3 to move money around

House_Of_Thoth

You're right, it won't be WW3 unless Khamenei gets desperate... The possibility is there, but you're right, Iran would be turned to glass in about 13 minutes

jrex035

War with Iran isnt gonna be WW3, people through that term around all the time and it's ridiculous. If the US was getting into a direct shooting match with China or even Russia, that *might* fit the bill for WW3. The US could curbstomp the Iranian military on a random Sunday and be back in time to watch football. Hell, we literally bombed the hell out of them last year and no WW3

ihopethisworksfornow

Place your bets on the black swan event: 1.) A major U.S. navy vessel is sunk by a semi-submersible drone off the coast of Iran, triggering a full invasion and WW3. 2.) Mango says some wild economic shit and immediately has a heart attack and dies live on TV before he can TACO as he planned, to pump markets. 3.) Elon Musk sends an email to a Reuter’s journalist with full documentation that Tesla has been lying about sales figures since 2015 as well as FSD and robotaxi progress. The Optimus is revealed to be entirely fake, it’s Doug Jones in a robot suit. 4.) China does *something*. 5.) Aliens arrive and obliterate the city of Kuala Lumpur, then leave with no explanation.

House_Of_Thoth

Iran has mobilized it's fleet in the Hormuz and more US ships are arriving in the gulf. Expecting fireworks anytime soon and I guess people are taking profits to hedge before the weekend market's closed in case we end up in WW3 by Saturday morning

Embarrassed-Buy-3690

WW3 confirmed

SonofTroyChristKing

Those Americans in WW2 sadly died for global finance, ZOG, and Israel.

Pmike9

I wonder if they are preparing for the aftermath of WW3 by having stockpiles of a universal post-war currency.

EducationalLemon6918

Look at WW2. Germany had superior weapons but the allies won the war because we manufactured more weapons and had more men to use them. It took 3 to 4 Sherman tanks to take out a single tiger tank. I am afraid history is repeating itself, but now, the US is Germany and China is the allies. Having the most superior weapons does not guarantee a win, especially if less superior weapons can be manufactured at much greater rates.

gereffi

A lot of conspiracy nuts push gold. You see ads to sell you gold in the same places that you see ads for those survival food storage things. And in general gold is stable, but it's a stable that's significantly lower than typical stock market returns. Right now a lot of people see the government pushing it's way towards WW3, a civil war, and/or stealing/canceling/ignoring this fall's elections, so some stability isn't a terrible idea.

Proof_Duty1672

He’s gonna start WW3

DA2710

So? They should get with family and go back home. Maybe you should look up some WW2 history and compare “concentration camps” What a joke

bearhunter429

#Microsoft could announce that it found lost Nazi gold from WW2 in its basement and stock would still dump LMAO🤌

pmoO0

After WW3 you need something not made of paper or bits.

BallsOfStonk

As long as there is a MAGA controlled government, let’s say for the next 3 years, then probably $10,000. If we keep the current deficit and saying “fuck you” to every ally and country on earth, and if civil unrest continues/escalates, we will see a USD currency crisis by the end of DJT’s term that will be the greatest financial reset event since WW2, and you could see overall inflation at like 15% YoY by the end of it, along with mass unemployment. Couple that with an estimated $50T national debt in 3 years, and boom.

Fhyzikz

Ok now all I need is WW3 by tomorrow to maybe break even on my QQQ puts

A55BAG

Gold at 5420$ surely it will crash if we don't get WW3 by next week.

Reasonable-Turn-5940

The people who were in them would be appalled by this shit don't get it twisted. And yes they are concentration camps by the very definition. Saying they can't be because it's not WW2 is the dumbest shit. You're probably specifically thinking of 'death camps' though. The death camps started as concentration camps first.

TripDandelion

We've done concentration camps and forced relocations in the US a ton of times in the past. Japanese internment in WW2, native americans basically throughout the whole existence of the US, lobotomizing, internment, and disappearings of 'undesirable' patients at 'mental hospitals', Gitmo during Bush and Obama, Trump's first term and the family separation centers designed to disappear children for trafficking. It's not new, you're only just realizing it.

ftp67

Yes I own silver but in now way do I see a longterm crash. Yes I think if you have extremely short positions you are in trouble. I also see it hitting 150 by end of summer. I just...I think you need to read more about the state of things. The dollar was used as reserve currency because, even when we were committing coups in about 15 countries post WW2, even when we kept changing erratic presidents every 4 years, even when we were bullying and pushing and monopolizing, we were NOT THE ONES BEING ATTACKED. Remember how important that is. We are the only superpower that has not been involved in an armed conflict on sovereign soil since the dawn of the 1900s. We also have the widest reaching economic arms on earth, even when we aren't producing industrially. The dollar is dropping and will not improve through the year no matter what happens. Truly. Unless Trump as his dying wish came out and said "Im wrong, I was a criminal, I am Scrooge, and here are my socialist reforms" it will continue to drop because internationally the old guard is changing permanently. So invest accordingly. Does it mean every stock crashes? Of course not. But until the world decides on a new reserve they will invest in gold and silver.

ihopethisworksfornow

“Declining fertility” is the most bullshit term for describing lower birth rates. People are having less kids because they’re broke as shit and both parents need to work just to live slightly beyond paycheck to paycheck and they’re worried about WW3 breaking out at any moment for literally any reason, not because they’re shooting blanks.

DyaLoveMe

The definition of concentration camps varies wildly in severity. The extermination camps that happened during the Final Solution are often called concentration camps, but that’s a bit of a misnomer. Treblinka etc had the express purpose of killing people. America put Japanese people in concentration camps during WW2, but there were no mass killings.

Ill_Ground_1572

Oh wow American exceptionalism at its finest. And your a total fool if you don't think there is massive amounts of money to be made outside of the US....short term and long term, tech and other companies. Diversifying is key. 10x is 10x and it doesn't matter to me which stock exchange it is. Longer term, the policies that are negatively affecting the US such as a reduction in US academic funding, brain drain due to blatant racism by top US officials, being unable to recruit the best and brightest, lack of power infrastructure, lack of precious metals, major distrust by allies that signed agreements with the US, circular partnerships made by AI companies, rapidly decreasing US dollar coupled with massive debt increases to name a few: all will come home to roost. It may take years for this to set in and have a major negative impact on innovation but it will. Let alone the massive geopolitical risk that's occuring inside the US right now. The US has done a wonderful job since WW2 forming agreements with countries to import raw materials with low profit margins and turning them into widgets with high profit margins. And that is at risk as these countries diversify away from the US.

jankenpoo

Except the US is bad at asymmetric warfare which is what we’re gonna get unless going head to head with a country like China, etc. and that has its own challenges. The US hasn’t fought a true symmetrical war since WW2

fgon_k

Nothing is promised. But extremely unlikely. Think of WW3 worst scenario

rattlesnaek

I mean, isn’t that huge military budget sort of the main reason for US global hegemony? The fact that it dwarfs the expenditure of any other country allows them to develop their capabilities much more, which means the US is the big daddy here and realistically no one could ever fight it and hope to win. Thus, after WW2 they offered protection in exchange for using the USD as a reserve currency (overly simplified, but you get the point), so their economy still skyrocketed even with outsourcing that sweet manufacturing industry. What Trump is trying to achieve is to basically maintain the USD as a reserve currency but devalue the USD so they can re-industrialize and bring back manufacturing. What he doesn’t realize is that his objective is incredibly difficult if not outright impossible, perhaps not without the use of its military. The US is basically the world’s racketeering mobster “just pay us and we’ll protect you from those made up threats” Idk just my two cents which I got from listening to Trump’s advisors

Hedhunta

Fuck off dude. People just want to enjoy their lives. Boomers sold out everyones future so they could get all their "luxury purchases". Its fucking bullshit people come here and defend that shit as if we all shouldn't be expecting to live comfortable lives in the richest country in the world. Let alone the fact that climate change is going to render our world uninhabitable. Or a fascist President intent on starting WW3. Why wouldn't people just spend their money now, while they can enjoy a few things in their life, before everything is fucking shitty and horrible?

Uninsurable_Risk

Good luck. I have tried and have been met with a resistance to considering anything historical regardless if it was in the last 10 years like Brexit or WW2. Even further back their brains shut off. Don't forget its usually the same crowd who is ok with censoring slavery. I hope you get further than I did.

hove112

Bers went from recession, WW3, to civil war to USD dollar going to be worthless When are yall going to admit defeat?

Realistic_Agent_9494

Yes, in my head the U.S.'s economic peak was in that post WW2 period. More specifically 1946-1971 (this coincides with the end of the gold standard). When people say "Make America Great Again" I'd imagine they'd want to return us to the economic policies of this era.

Nebty

They can’t fight the whole world. He backed down on Greenland for a reason. If the USA breaks the post-WW2 peace the average citizen is absolutely fucked.

kurosawabobby

If China made a move the price of TSMC would be the least of everyone's worries. It would be WW3.

didkhdi

I'm just your average idiot. I had a cool algo on quantopia and I asked this exact question what's a good edge in the market. The answer is psychology. People are greedy in the near term and fearfull In the long term. The best example I've read of this is WW2 Japan, if you said in 10 year WW2 Japan would be the second biggest economy you would be laughed at, but had you said next year would be significantly better then the year prior people would agree since coming back from a completely destroyed economy is easy. Tldr call leaps on indexes are generally undervalued, you can easily check this by throwing 10000$ into a spy leap 3 years out and do that since 2016. Basically they were all massively profitable from 60-300%+ increase in 3 years every year they were implemented

didkhdi

I had a cool algo on quantopia and I asked it this exact question. The answer is psychology. People are greedy in the near term and fearfull In the long term. The best example I've read of this is WW2 Japan, if you said in 10 year WW2 Japan would be the second biggest economy you would be laughed at, but had you said next year would be significantly better then the year prior people would agree since coming back from a completely destroyed economy is easy. Tldr call leaps on indexes are generally undervalued, you can easily check this by throwing 10000$ into a spy leap 3 years out and do that since 2016. Basically they were all massively profitable from 60-300%+ increase in 3 years every year they were implemented

FormalCompetition118

China gonna win WW3 before 🥭 knows it started

beqs171

WW3

NikoSkadefryd

"Numbers don't lie" LOL yes they do when your latest dataset is from November, way before the whole WW3 debate.

leeuwvanvlaanderen

SBUX gotta juice those profits somehow when coffee prices are spiking WW

Seth-73ma

No WW3?

volckerwasright

Ber last night: Iran. WW3. Civil War. New World Order Ber this morning: Thats a #4 with a medium black coffee, anything else sir?

volckerwasright

Ber last night: Iran. WW3. Civil War. New World Order Ber this morning: Thats a #4 with a medium black coffee, anything else sir?

Boringdude504

This is 100% it. Lots of investors aren’t aware that the rules have changed and are still using historic data to predict future events and are still under the assumption that we are operating on a post WW2 global world order. What we are witnessing is a shift from that order hence high metal prices. In addition dollar is going to shit and with Japan’s carry trade unwind recently the US dollar took another hit. Gold isn’t just rising in value because of FOMO. Your dollar is actively losing value.

Yvaelle

Tech company growth is assumed within precious metals pricing. Gold, silver, copper are all used for circuitry. Uranium is also seeing a spike due to Europe, China, and USA all showing plans for more nuclear energy. Rare earths have applications across the tech stack too, notably batteries. The advantage that precious metals have over tech is that precious metals hoarding is also expected during global military & economic uncertainty, and the ramp-up to WW3. Forecast demand is massively up, but so is the urge to stockpile. Plus a complex AI correction is likely going to occur at some point - something like Open AI declaring bankruptcy - and markets panic selling the whole tech stack - could happen at any time in 2026. So tech itself feels risky, even if there are lots of genuine AI applications that will make nVidia, Google, Microsoft very rich longterm. What matters is the market's sentiment, not necessarily the reality.

Yvaelle

CAD or AUD would be good choices. USD is aiming for 15-20% inflation in 2026 to pay for Trump's $4.7T in tax cuts, plus the global divestment from the USD due to all these WW3 threats. There's the potential for CAD:USD hitting parity again by year end, possibly even AUD:USD, with CAD above USD.

neutralpoliticsbot

I love when futures are red on a Sunday because bears start to spam the most inane bear drivel you can imagine here. By 9pm you will see WW3 here, China invaded Taiwan and more

ZombieDracula

I don't want WW3. I want reality to match the stock market.

rdblaw

Bears hoping for WW3 and bulls praying their president goes on a golfing trip, we’re not the same

russcastella

Next stop: WW3

russcastella

Next stop: WW3

Sick0h

If only those living through the Great Depression, WW2, Cold War, Vietnam War, fight for desegregation, Desert Storm, Dot Com bubble, and great financial crisis could see the headlines of today. I’m sure they never imagined such terrible news and would definitely believe this of all times is our most bearish moments.

fruitloop00001

I am planning to finally capitalize on a crypto winner this time, but the idea that Internet dependent and highly traceable BTC will hold up better than the shiny rocks we've been using since we were chimpanzees in a WW3 or dictatorship scenario is wild.

Cazba77

I guess you want the solution to be easy? While your President constantly approaches starting WW3?

Airhostnyc

Yes and global pandemic that killed millions, shutdown production, rapid inflation and talks of WW3 since 2018 is different? How many times has it been the end of the world? Yall sound like Burry when predicting the next market crash.

estivalsoltice

On the other hand, all the brains that were drained from Germany and Europe in WW2 went to the US and made this country prosper for decades to come. NASA likely wouldn't be NASA without a lot of the migrated Europeans engineers and scientists and the US likely would not win the Cold War against Russia without NASA. The current environment will result in brain drain that will take time to recover from. Investing in destinations where those brains will be going is not a bad idea.

hermeskino715

I mean, if I had to bet which comes first: 🌮 starting WW3 🌮 releasing the files in full I'll take the former

NewDawn101

I like how silver people are actively hoping for WW3 to keep their gains rolling

EvolvingDior

We have a draft dodger leading the troops, one who said the GIs that died in WW2 were "suckers". So sure, why not.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

Can you imagine, the generation of you guys that end up fighting in WW3 will be known again as the 2nd Greatest Generation! What an honor! If you win that is, and if you survive…

hermeskino715

Would start WW3 and civil war before those files get released