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deevee12

They actually released more files and it did not look good for fruit man He's starting WW3 this weekend isn't he

FabulousLanguage6216

Way to oversold. Unless WW3 this weekend this is extremely exaggerated

Your_Answer_Is_No

Anything to buy over the weekend as we go into WW3 and have ICE take over?

orangeyougladiator

WW3 is priced in, only direction is up

Temporary_Inner

So people are selling to get cash for WW3 to buy...? Hookers? Bottle caps? 

SangerGRBY

I think WW3 soon so people forget about Epstein files

Brokenandburnt

No one who knows anything are saying that the reserve currency status would change overnight.\ Just like everything else in finance it would take years of unwinding for governments to reduce their holdings. And as long as the US continues to export services and expensive high-tech the dollar is needed to buy it. I can't really think of a black swan that could force a catastrophic dumping of the dollar either short of a nuclear war. But all of this isn't the same as immunity. The US under Trump has proven to be a risky place for investments. The interest on the debt is getting high enough that worries are rising if it will be serviceable. Add to that there are documents published by members of the administration that openly talks about intentionally crashing the dollar to reduce the debt. Some even talks about using the threat of military force to do a soft default. Everyone has started to de-risk and hedge against the dollar, which will reduce the demand slightly. In aggregate it could alter it's status, but that's a lengthy process. But also remember that up to the end of WW2 the Pound Stirling was the reserve currency, until it suddenly wasn't.

TrainingJellyfish643

It wont be the yen, but it also doesnt have to be the dollar because everyone is going back to gold and silver lol. Pre-WW2 we didnt even have a global reserve currency, closest thing to it was the pound at only 30%. It seems that countries around the world are moving ahead with de-dollarization and that kinda opens up a whole bunch of possibilities. Frankly I think there's a likelihood we wont have a reserve currency in 20 years

high_plains_grifter_

I dunno, the British empire ended because of WW2, getting into the war straight away to defend our allies no matter the cost. America’s empire on the other hand will end because they betray their allies and they’ll dump their worthless currency

mehmilani

I always thought WW3 would be fought by robots. Looks like that has to wait until WW4.

Icy-Motor-8519

What if some random soldier in Tehran, was drunk af off his camel’s piss and shot an RPG in the air. It explodes in the air near US troops and starts WW3 by accident. Intrusive thoughts won.

CasherburyTales

My grandpappy fought WW2 so I could listen to a computer memory maker’s earnings call

10000Didgeridoos

It’s pretty obvious why: one man. You know who it is without me saying it. One guy has spent the past year intentionally changing the most powerful economy’s trade policies on an hour to hour basis as his dementia ridden brain thinks of it, blowing up every post WW2 economic and military alliance, and intentionally devaluing the dollar because he’s a fucking dumbass who didn’t get that a poorer country will never buy as much $$$ of goods from the US as the US buys from it taking advantage of the cheaper labor there. He also is actively trying to put a puppet into the fed who will lower interest rates for him back to near 0. So people are moving money out of US stocks and out of US dollars. The past year, international mid and large cap funds are up like 36% vs 16% for the S&P 500 and of course precious metals have skyrocketed. Until the lunatic at the helm is visited by three fed chair ghosts in the night, nothing about this environment is changing. It’s only going to get worse. And I didn’t even mention the ramifications of his military seizure and open discussion of seizure of other countries and their assets yet.

Brother_Obadiah

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4543343-tether-gold-holdings-latest There will be at least one more run for cryptos. I'm thinking it starts at the end of the year. BTC will be useful at the beginning of WW3 to move money around

House_Of_Thoth

You're right, it won't be WW3 unless Khamenei gets desperate... The possibility is there, but you're right, Iran would be turned to glass in about 13 minutes

jrex035

War with Iran isnt gonna be WW3, people through that term around all the time and it's ridiculous. If the US was getting into a direct shooting match with China or even Russia, that *might* fit the bill for WW3. The US could curbstomp the Iranian military on a random Sunday and be back in time to watch football. Hell, we literally bombed the hell out of them last year and no WW3

ihopethisworksfornow

Place your bets on the black swan event: 1.) A major U.S. navy vessel is sunk by a semi-submersible drone off the coast of Iran, triggering a full invasion and WW3. 2.) Mango says some wild economic shit and immediately has a heart attack and dies live on TV before he can TACO as he planned, to pump markets. 3.) Elon Musk sends an email to a Reuter’s journalist with full documentation that Tesla has been lying about sales figures since 2015 as well as FSD and robotaxi progress. The Optimus is revealed to be entirely fake, it’s Doug Jones in a robot suit. 4.) China does *something*. 5.) Aliens arrive and obliterate the city of Kuala Lumpur, then leave with no explanation.

House_Of_Thoth

Iran has mobilized it's fleet in the Hormuz and more US ships are arriving in the gulf. Expecting fireworks anytime soon and I guess people are taking profits to hedge before the weekend market's closed in case we end up in WW3 by Saturday morning

Embarrassed-Buy-3690

WW3 confirmed

SonofTroyChristKing

Those Americans in WW2 sadly died for global finance, ZOG, and Israel.

Pmike9

I wonder if they are preparing for the aftermath of WW3 by having stockpiles of a universal post-war currency.

EducationalLemon6918

Look at WW2. Germany had superior weapons but the allies won the war because we manufactured more weapons and had more men to use them. It took 3 to 4 Sherman tanks to take out a single tiger tank. I am afraid history is repeating itself, but now, the US is Germany and China is the allies. Having the most superior weapons does not guarantee a win, especially if less superior weapons can be manufactured at much greater rates.

gereffi

A lot of conspiracy nuts push gold. You see ads to sell you gold in the same places that you see ads for those survival food storage things. And in general gold is stable, but it's a stable that's significantly lower than typical stock market returns. Right now a lot of people see the government pushing it's way towards WW3, a civil war, and/or stealing/canceling/ignoring this fall's elections, so some stability isn't a terrible idea.

Proof_Duty1672

He’s gonna start WW3

DA2710

So? They should get with family and go back home. Maybe you should look up some WW2 history and compare “concentration camps” What a joke

bearhunter429

#Microsoft could announce that it found lost Nazi gold from WW2 in its basement and stock would still dump LMAO🤌

pmoO0

After WW3 you need something not made of paper or bits.

BallsOfStonk

As long as there is a MAGA controlled government, let’s say for the next 3 years, then probably $10,000. If we keep the current deficit and saying “fuck you” to every ally and country on earth, and if civil unrest continues/escalates, we will see a USD currency crisis by the end of DJT’s term that will be the greatest financial reset event since WW2, and you could see overall inflation at like 15% YoY by the end of it, along with mass unemployment. Couple that with an estimated $50T national debt in 3 years, and boom.

Fhyzikz

Ok now all I need is WW3 by tomorrow to maybe break even on my QQQ puts

A55BAG

Gold at 5420$ surely it will crash if we don't get WW3 by next week.

Reasonable-Turn-5940

The people who were in them would be appalled by this shit don't get it twisted. And yes they are concentration camps by the very definition. Saying they can't be because it's not WW2 is the dumbest shit. You're probably specifically thinking of 'death camps' though. The death camps started as concentration camps first.

TripDandelion

We've done concentration camps and forced relocations in the US a ton of times in the past. Japanese internment in WW2, native americans basically throughout the whole existence of the US, lobotomizing, internment, and disappearings of 'undesirable' patients at 'mental hospitals', Gitmo during Bush and Obama, Trump's first term and the family separation centers designed to disappear children for trafficking. It's not new, you're only just realizing it.

ftp67

Yes I own silver but in now way do I see a longterm crash. Yes I think if you have extremely short positions you are in trouble. I also see it hitting 150 by end of summer. I just...I think you need to read more about the state of things. The dollar was used as reserve currency because, even when we were committing coups in about 15 countries post WW2, even when we kept changing erratic presidents every 4 years, even when we were bullying and pushing and monopolizing, we were NOT THE ONES BEING ATTACKED. Remember how important that is. We are the only superpower that has not been involved in an armed conflict on sovereign soil since the dawn of the 1900s. We also have the widest reaching economic arms on earth, even when we aren't producing industrially. The dollar is dropping and will not improve through the year no matter what happens. Truly. Unless Trump as his dying wish came out and said "Im wrong, I was a criminal, I am Scrooge, and here are my socialist reforms" it will continue to drop because internationally the old guard is changing permanently. So invest accordingly. Does it mean every stock crashes? Of course not. But until the world decides on a new reserve they will invest in gold and silver.

ihopethisworksfornow

“Declining fertility” is the most bullshit term for describing lower birth rates. People are having less kids because they’re broke as shit and both parents need to work just to live slightly beyond paycheck to paycheck and they’re worried about WW3 breaking out at any moment for literally any reason, not because they’re shooting blanks.

DyaLoveMe

The definition of concentration camps varies wildly in severity. The extermination camps that happened during the Final Solution are often called concentration camps, but that’s a bit of a misnomer. Treblinka etc had the express purpose of killing people. America put Japanese people in concentration camps during WW2, but there were no mass killings.

Ill_Ground_1572

Oh wow American exceptionalism at its finest. And your a total fool if you don't think there is massive amounts of money to be made outside of the US....short term and long term, tech and other companies. Diversifying is key. 10x is 10x and it doesn't matter to me which stock exchange it is. Longer term, the policies that are negatively affecting the US such as a reduction in US academic funding, brain drain due to blatant racism by top US officials, being unable to recruit the best and brightest, lack of power infrastructure, lack of precious metals, major distrust by allies that signed agreements with the US, circular partnerships made by AI companies, rapidly decreasing US dollar coupled with massive debt increases to name a few: all will come home to roost. It may take years for this to set in and have a major negative impact on innovation but it will. Let alone the massive geopolitical risk that's occuring inside the US right now. The US has done a wonderful job since WW2 forming agreements with countries to import raw materials with low profit margins and turning them into widgets with high profit margins. And that is at risk as these countries diversify away from the US.

jankenpoo

Except the US is bad at asymmetric warfare which is what we’re gonna get unless going head to head with a country like China, etc. and that has its own challenges. The US hasn’t fought a true symmetrical war since WW2

fgon_k

Nothing is promised. But extremely unlikely. Think of WW3 worst scenario

rattlesnaek

I mean, isn’t that huge military budget sort of the main reason for US global hegemony? The fact that it dwarfs the expenditure of any other country allows them to develop their capabilities much more, which means the US is the big daddy here and realistically no one could ever fight it and hope to win. Thus, after WW2 they offered protection in exchange for using the USD as a reserve currency (overly simplified, but you get the point), so their economy still skyrocketed even with outsourcing that sweet manufacturing industry. What Trump is trying to achieve is to basically maintain the USD as a reserve currency but devalue the USD so they can re-industrialize and bring back manufacturing. What he doesn’t realize is that his objective is incredibly difficult if not outright impossible, perhaps not without the use of its military. The US is basically the world’s racketeering mobster “just pay us and we’ll protect you from those made up threats” Idk just my two cents which I got from listening to Trump’s advisors

Hedhunta

Fuck off dude. People just want to enjoy their lives. Boomers sold out everyones future so they could get all their "luxury purchases". Its fucking bullshit people come here and defend that shit as if we all shouldn't be expecting to live comfortable lives in the richest country in the world. Let alone the fact that climate change is going to render our world uninhabitable. Or a fascist President intent on starting WW3. Why wouldn't people just spend their money now, while they can enjoy a few things in their life, before everything is fucking shitty and horrible?

Uninsurable_Risk

Good luck. I have tried and have been met with a resistance to considering anything historical regardless if it was in the last 10 years like Brexit or WW2. Even further back their brains shut off. Don't forget its usually the same crowd who is ok with censoring slavery. I hope you get further than I did.

hove112

Bers went from recession, WW3, to civil war to USD dollar going to be worthless When are yall going to admit defeat?

Realistic_Agent_9494

Yes, in my head the U.S.'s economic peak was in that post WW2 period. More specifically 1946-1971 (this coincides with the end of the gold standard). When people say "Make America Great Again" I'd imagine they'd want to return us to the economic policies of this era.

Nebty

They can’t fight the whole world. He backed down on Greenland for a reason. If the USA breaks the post-WW2 peace the average citizen is absolutely fucked.

kurosawabobby

If China made a move the price of TSMC would be the least of everyone's worries. It would be WW3.

didkhdi

I'm just your average idiot. I had a cool algo on quantopia and I asked this exact question what's a good edge in the market. The answer is psychology. People are greedy in the near term and fearfull In the long term. The best example I've read of this is WW2 Japan, if you said in 10 year WW2 Japan would be the second biggest economy you would be laughed at, but had you said next year would be significantly better then the year prior people would agree since coming back from a completely destroyed economy is easy. Tldr call leaps on indexes are generally undervalued, you can easily check this by throwing 10000$ into a spy leap 3 years out and do that since 2016. Basically they were all massively profitable from 60-300%+ increase in 3 years every year they were implemented

didkhdi

I had a cool algo on quantopia and I asked it this exact question. The answer is psychology. People are greedy in the near term and fearfull In the long term. The best example I've read of this is WW2 Japan, if you said in 10 year WW2 Japan would be the second biggest economy you would be laughed at, but had you said next year would be significantly better then the year prior people would agree since coming back from a completely destroyed economy is easy. Tldr call leaps on indexes are generally undervalued, you can easily check this by throwing 10000$ into a spy leap 3 years out and do that since 2016. Basically they were all massively profitable from 60-300%+ increase in 3 years every year they were implemented

FormalCompetition118

China gonna win WW3 before 🥭 knows it started

beqs171

WW3

NikoSkadefryd

"Numbers don't lie" LOL yes they do when your latest dataset is from November, way before the whole WW3 debate.

leeuwvanvlaanderen

SBUX gotta juice those profits somehow when coffee prices are spiking WW

Seth-73ma

No WW3?

volckerwasright

Ber last night: Iran. WW3. Civil War. New World Order Ber this morning: Thats a #4 with a medium black coffee, anything else sir?

volckerwasright

Ber last night: Iran. WW3. Civil War. New World Order Ber this morning: Thats a #4 with a medium black coffee, anything else sir?

Boringdude504

This is 100% it. Lots of investors aren’t aware that the rules have changed and are still using historic data to predict future events and are still under the assumption that we are operating on a post WW2 global world order. What we are witnessing is a shift from that order hence high metal prices. In addition dollar is going to shit and with Japan’s carry trade unwind recently the US dollar took another hit. Gold isn’t just rising in value because of FOMO. Your dollar is actively losing value.

Yvaelle

Tech company growth is assumed within precious metals pricing. Gold, silver, copper are all used for circuitry. Uranium is also seeing a spike due to Europe, China, and USA all showing plans for more nuclear energy. Rare earths have applications across the tech stack too, notably batteries. The advantage that precious metals have over tech is that precious metals hoarding is also expected during global military & economic uncertainty, and the ramp-up to WW3. Forecast demand is massively up, but so is the urge to stockpile. Plus a complex AI correction is likely going to occur at some point - something like Open AI declaring bankruptcy - and markets panic selling the whole tech stack - could happen at any time in 2026. So tech itself feels risky, even if there are lots of genuine AI applications that will make nVidia, Google, Microsoft very rich longterm. What matters is the market's sentiment, not necessarily the reality.

Yvaelle

CAD or AUD would be good choices. USD is aiming for 15-20% inflation in 2026 to pay for Trump's $4.7T in tax cuts, plus the global divestment from the USD due to all these WW3 threats. There's the potential for CAD:USD hitting parity again by year end, possibly even AUD:USD, with CAD above USD.

neutralpoliticsbot

I love when futures are red on a Sunday because bears start to spam the most inane bear drivel you can imagine here. By 9pm you will see WW3 here, China invaded Taiwan and more

ZombieDracula

I don't want WW3. I want reality to match the stock market.

rdblaw

Bears hoping for WW3 and bulls praying their president goes on a golfing trip, we’re not the same

russcastella

Next stop: WW3

russcastella

Next stop: WW3

Sick0h

If only those living through the Great Depression, WW2, Cold War, Vietnam War, fight for desegregation, Desert Storm, Dot Com bubble, and great financial crisis could see the headlines of today. I’m sure they never imagined such terrible news and would definitely believe this of all times is our most bearish moments.

fruitloop00001

I am planning to finally capitalize on a crypto winner this time, but the idea that Internet dependent and highly traceable BTC will hold up better than the shiny rocks we've been using since we were chimpanzees in a WW3 or dictatorship scenario is wild.

Cazba77

I guess you want the solution to be easy? While your President constantly approaches starting WW3?

Airhostnyc

Yes and global pandemic that killed millions, shutdown production, rapid inflation and talks of WW3 since 2018 is different? How many times has it been the end of the world? Yall sound like Burry when predicting the next market crash.

estivalsoltice

On the other hand, all the brains that were drained from Germany and Europe in WW2 went to the US and made this country prosper for decades to come. NASA likely wouldn't be NASA without a lot of the migrated Europeans engineers and scientists and the US likely would not win the Cold War against Russia without NASA. The current environment will result in brain drain that will take time to recover from. Investing in destinations where those brains will be going is not a bad idea.

hermeskino715

I mean, if I had to bet which comes first: 🌮 starting WW3 🌮 releasing the files in full I'll take the former

NewDawn101

I like how silver people are actively hoping for WW3 to keep their gains rolling

EvolvingDior

We have a draft dodger leading the troops, one who said the GIs that died in WW2 were "suckers". So sure, why not.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

Can you imagine, the generation of you guys that end up fighting in WW3 will be known again as the 2nd Greatest Generation! What an honor! If you win that is, and if you survive…

hermeskino715

Would start WW3 and civil war before those files get released

8thSt

Were the legislators that funded the concentration camps held accountable after WW2? If so, many in Congress should be concerned. The selling of our country into authoritarian rules comes at the price of a short rope.

Colonist25

you argument is what exactly? there's some unique things in the us - yes. will there be copy cats and alternatives in europe - also yes. palantir is a data collection firm, actually nothing they do is unique other than they have their hooks in so many processes. nvidia is a unique company only in the sense that they have a design lead. ten years, nvidia may not have that position. just like Xerox, IBM, AMD, etc in the day. if you look around hard enough, china has in many areas already beaten the US when it comes to research, innovation, etc. and the EU has some unqiue things of it's own This isn't even about Trump at this point. He's been elected twice, the US is either getting into Gilead territory or becoming a full blown oligarchy under Thiel & Musk. Europe (and the world) simply cannot trust that the US will come to it's senses any time soon. Hence the world is moving on from the post WW2 order.

401kmaxxing

America has been using Communism/USSR/Russia/China as the boogeyman since WW2, even as America endlessly instigated illegal wars and committed war crimes and crimes as atrocities such as the rape and murder of women and children, and bombed and murdered millions of innocent foreign civilians Just nothing but deflection and distraction from America's sins

LostAbbott

China is not a threat.  They cannot project power outside the eastern hemisphere(they got close in Venezuela).  They have 6+ 50 year olds for every person under 20.  They are desperately trying to hold their RE monopoly and control some semblance of a financial position of power.  Those both are collapsing inside China(not quite outside yet).  I understand that the US has had a boogieman since the end of WW2, but China ain't it and frankly with the fall of Maduro. It looks like many other small "hot spots" are quickly crumbling.

Inspector330

The problem with intel is that it hasn't done anything to justify a turnaround. The only reason it has value is because it's hanging on strings of political instability/national security. The problem is, if China invades Taiwan, the price of intel won't matter, as we'll enter WW3. So this is a very poor bet. Significant changes have to occur within intel to justify a true turnaround. People are literally being lied to constantly over the years by various Intel CEOs - somehow people are ignoring this major red flag. All intelcis doing is buying more time before failure or breakthrough. Intel is also intertwined with Israel and Mossad. The world will not trust them in the coming years when compute power becomes more important than nuclear power. It's not surprise the US government is throwing them a lifeline.

Put_Er_There_Sport

This stupid mongoloid really decided back in 2016 to fuck the world just so he can have some spotlight to fuel his ego, then when that spotlight got squandered (epstein files) he decided to burn the world while fucking it. Absolute insanity that this style of political destruction can happen again within 10 years longer than the average person's life span. Right as WW2 vets are going down into the ground we decided we want to do it again.

ShittyUsernane1222

If 🥭 out of all possible people who could win WW3, wins WW3 the world is cooked.

GioSlayr

Calls on WW3

Deeznutzsgotcha

Simultaneously with WW3

rbraalih

Why would toilet paper have fallen post WW1, did people stop wiping out of respect for the dead?

Urzuck

Stocks supergreen while the USd will look like toilet paper after WW1.

BigBossShadow

Oh they all already know what it look like. From an investing standpoint. It looks like owning hard assets. If its not in your possession you have nothing. From a societal/political aspect it looks like WW3.

LurkerV1

WW3 ramps into overdrive would be my guess 🤷‍♂️

Salty-Bid1597

So did he invade Iceland yet? I hear they never said thanks for winning WW2.

siazdghw

The entire global economy implodes. I'm not even kidding. For anyone thinking that dumping US bonds will magically save their country or even put them ahead of the curve, you have no idea how bad it will get if it ever happens (but it's extremely unlikely to). It would also very likely cascade into WW3 or at least several major wars, such as China invading Taiwan and the US invading god knows where. Because there's no better boost to the economy than getting the war machine going and then taking from another country.

DownSyndromSteven

I wasn’t watching the news for a week, is WW3 fear still in the background

LastUltimateY0l0

I’d buy TUNGF if I could but it’s not on my broker 😭 that and the Australian one haha, was planning to divide my portfolio among those 3 From what I can work out, it’s been around since WW2 unused really, a uk company bought it in mid 2010’s and it was producing but apparently they kept damaging the ore and had other complications

stumblios

The theory is plausible, but I think the world would treat the problems similarly. Assuming it's true, I think it means some combination of the following: * There were fewer Trump voters, but still enough to make the election close enough to rig. * Republicans can steal elections without the White House. * Democrats lack the ability and/or desire to fight. Just look to Russia - The *entire* world knows Putin is not a democratically elected leader, but what does it change? You can reduce trade or sanction a rogue state, but unless you want to kick off WW3, you don't go to war with a super power. The strategy seems to be "let them coast until they eventually collapse".

ShadowLiberal

Social Security IS NOT adding to the debt, it's completely self funded. Medicare is a different story, it's budget problems are projected to just keep on getting worse and worse overtime by the Congressional Budget Office due to how rapidly our healthcare costs are rising. Also yes the military spending is a problem. But social welfare programs look worse in long term projections because you can't make long term projections about military spending, since you have no idea what wars/etc. we'll get into in the future. Imagine for example trying in 1935 to make a 20 year estimate of US military spending without any idea that WW2 would happen, a war that piled up so much debt by the US government that their national debt was more then 100% of the US's GDP.

trumpdiego

##WW3 & Civil War breakout simultaneously. ##Spy -0.5%

randomnameforme123

Bers were wrong about: Tariffs, WW3, AI bubble popping, attack on the fed's independence, AI bubble 2, WW3 & Tariffs combined All in the last two months 😂 maybe its time to just buy calls

PMacha

The last battle that battleships payed a decisive role in was the Battle of Jutland, in WW1, in 1916. Throughout WW2, battleships would either get sunk by torpedoes, or be glorified off shore bombardment platforms. The Yamato, Bismarck, Tripitz, and the Prince of Wales wasted steel and manpower that could've been directed towards actually useful things.

Agitated_Iron_7

A highly emotional decision that will assuredly cause you to lose money in the long term. Let’s talk actual investing here. What country is a better investment than the US? There are many reasons why America is the powerhouse it is. For one, the US has been helped being oceans away from adversaries and having pathetically weak neighbors. All of Asia and Europe look like another powder keg ready to blow, similar to WW1.

mani_tapori

Relax, WW3 is already priced in.

corndog_messiah

WW3 will be the “Coalition of the Peaceful” against the “Brotherhood of Pacifists”

zuiopasdf

He is the best only as playing victim all the time and blowing up his ego. All others are incapable and did nothing in and after WW2. Like there was no allies only USA.

SilverPrivateer

Japan is not legally allowed to develop much of their military (still!) in the same way that Germany is not allowed to get nukes. However, because war robots weren't invented in WW2, there is a loophole for investing in them. Imagine all of the budget that would go to planes... subs... guns... it's all going to be put into mechs

JosephPatrick83

This is the most important thing not many people realise. All the systems of the 'free' world were set up under US administration since the end of WW2. Everything in some way directly benefits the only Empire left in town. In just over eighty years, however, the US has destroyed the Empire they set up, with direct buy-in from other nations, not even coercion, and for what? To own the libs? Or is there something even darker being planned on the horizon? I'm no conpiracy theorist, but damn. How dumb are the people actually running the US government right now?