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d33p7r0ubl3

Not even WW3 would satisfy bears

IronSnatchKitty

Did you know during WW2 battle of Iwo Jima. Was the single deadliest battle for the Marines in the entire war. Our government compared taking Kharg island to that.

VancityRenaults

Vietnam is right next to China dude. If WW3 breaks out you can be sure China will be involved.

ltdanimal

OPs whole post seems incredibly ignorant and naive. We're like 3/10 on the pessimism scale.  Saying "I'm always right but just get the timing wrong" without trying to be ironic is peak WSB. Come back when the US has thousands of troops dead, the Strait is a bloodbath, and we're in the verge of WW3.  Not saying this will happen, but you need to zoom out a bit. The above is just one of a dozen other major events potentially brewing.

prestodigitarium

There will be one, in the form of high inflation/devaluing the dollar. Sustained negative real rates for a number of years like post WW2.

md_youdneverguess

So it's actually WW3 now?

No-Phrase-4692

WW4 sticks and stones - WY calls

FloppyButtholeJelly

WW4

GrandKnew

🥭 "hey let's start WW3"

Consistent_Chart_664

trying to leverage Iran to open up the Strait by trying to take over Kharg island is the most retarded plan Kegseth and Orange could come up with, so of course it’s going to happen. Bombs, equities, and bodies are all going to HIT THE FLOOR once the jihadi terrorists in charge unleash strikes against all the existing oil infrastructure in the gulf because they want things to go up in flames because this is a HOLY WAR for them. But, you’re right, Kamala would have been terrible. That laugh, Jesus Christ, I’d much rather have WW3 than listen to that laugh.

Odd_Hair3829

history books one day - "it was after a tweet 'Operation Epstein Fury' that the American president deployed Nuclear weapons for the first time since WW2..."

Scribble_Box

We honestly deserve WW3.

coderinside

Why would anyone send 12T of that shit to Poland? We have WW from Wedel and it is a masterpiece of taste! Try WW once and froget KitShit forever.

Scriptum_

True, but his big mouth also stops people investing because at any moment, he can start WW3 or something. Investment in individual companies is even worse, because he regularly singles them out in his tweets too.

Crocoppertones

I personally dunno if I’d consider war a black swan event, especially when you have a mentally unstable leader at the helm. Not to hijack the thread but I’ll add another question, and maybe time will tell but: Is Bitcoin ITSELF a black swan event? Its success leads me to think so since ~~everyone~~ *many* thought it was a sham; and if it crashes to nothingness that would certainly also be the case since ~~everone~~ *many* think it’s the future But to me war is to be expected. (Hell - even a WW3 wouldn’t be a black swan event)

Spare_Restaurant_464

Youre saying that stocks are a great hedge against inflation because they always go up and they always go up because they’re a great hedge against inflation? Thats circular logic. Markets are about confidence and there are plenty of examples of stagflating markets. One of the reasons that hasn’t happened here is because of competent leadership and because of the post WW2 order.

AwareSeaweed_

The elites have been doing it for thousands of years. You could basically dumb down WW1 to a big family feud between cousins. Starting wars for profits is pretty common, as cynical as this sounds.

Legitimate-Relief915

Absolutely. This war is a row of dominoes slowly falling one at a time. We’re in the throes of WW3 unless there’s immediate deescalation.

devo9er

Well TACO is trying to TACO again this time but they called his bluff and....here we are on the verge of WW3. US has grown complacent with their never ending line that always goes up

Jolly_Reference_516

If Trump forgets to send out a trained monkey to spew another less believable boost we grind lower. There is no positive outcome visible right now and countries are declaring whose side they are on which sounds a lot like the beginning of a WW. Trump needs to find a way to declare victory but why would Iran help him with it? They are controlling the world economy and aren’t going to give it away without getting a bag. So it’s ground troops taking the island and Iran waiting until all our troops are on it and then blowing it all sky high.

Grand_Ad_672

They need a new grift, these lies won’t work anymore. We know US ground troops will be deployed and put in harms way. Welcome to WW3. You can thank the clown king and the people who put him in power.

Guilty-Deer-2147

Bols thought they were getting a street TACO and got a WW3 appetizer instead

danieliscrazy

In WW2, did the allies ever establish a base that can be hit by shells from the enemy or did they establish them out of range and establish a front? I get the impression that parking your gear in missle range is only done because they are counting on their middle defense.

Fluffy-Discussion166

First time since WW2, fighting an opponent with latest missile tech and competency.

2020isgreat

If he starts WW3 can he get a 3rd term like FDR

Guilty-Deer-2147

Bulls expected a side of TACO and got an appetizer of WW3 instead lmao

Inspector330

There is no way to defeat Iran without WW3.

designbydesign

It will not conclude. It will drag for at least a few months, probably at least half a year, with a total meltdown of the global stock markets. At that point China will start the blockade of Taiwan and the Iran War will become just another front in the generally recognized WW3. WW3 will conclude with a completely new world order in a few years. There's no way to predict how the world will look like.

ovaltine_jenkins--

Monke just wants to survive WW3

ku2000

You know… they thought they could go home by Christmas. In WW1.

fredjutsu

There is the off chance that Iran lays a complete turd a la Russia on the battlefield. But then again, Russia sucked because they've stuck with the human waves doctrine since WW1

Hopsblues

I think we have entered that realm. We might be closer now to that happening than anytime since WW2.

hurcoman

Weeks? Try decades and a million troops. I want everyone to study how regular people lived and made it through the Great Depression and WW2. We are going to have both at the same time.

DifficultGarlic6

That's completely irrelevant to the claim OP made about Yemen somehow being the ignition of WW3. US taking over Chinese oil supply is its own matter.

CATLLM

How much more do we tank? I dont think a rate hike is priced in nor was Yemen joining the war and WW3.

Decent-Law-9565

DCA works great if this is retirement money you don't need in many years. But it also hinges on the fact that US will remain a superpower and enjoy a lot of the benefits it has had since WW2. Japan's stock market didn't recover from their big crash for 30+ years. For an example at home, the Nasdaq took 15 years to recover from the dotcom bubble, and the S&P briefly recovered in 2007 before being hit by the GFC.

DifficultGarlic6

Yeah, Yemen with its wide net of alliances with other great powers will be the spark of WW3. Oh wait. What a retarded comment.

PulIthEld

I don't think they care if WW3 starts.

LasyKuuga

>Yemen joins Irans fight with USA and Israel #MOFO THIS IS HOW WE GET WW3. YOU FUCKING RETARDS

mido_sama

Gas too expensive to afford WW3

Lord-Talon

It's pretty common in history for individual countries and even superpowers to crumble after decades of bad policy though. I agree that the global economy is fine and with a world index you will definitely be in the green in 15 years. S&P500 however could be at its historical ATH and go sideways / down for the next decades. It would be recency bias to assume that just because the US always came out good post-WW2 that this trend will continue.

fenriswulfwsb

Time to celebrate with WW3

NotMe357

After Iran, TACO will go after Cuba and Colombia. Then he will target Greenland again and this time he will use an excuse like NATO did not helping him with Iran so he don't need to respect them anymore. Thats why Greenland should belong to him now. He will also use that as an excuse to get out of NATO too. A few months later he will be surprise why new NATO and EU not buying armerican's weapons anymore. Russian, Israel and USA will team up and start WW5. Far....far away North Korea still didn't get any invitation to World War 😕

Nukeboml3

So , the more we stop pumping , the longer it’s gonna take to reopen ? Fuck , this is bad . That stupid orange clown must be a Real idiot not to think about the complete Disaster this war would create . 100 day for the total disaster seems scary short now . If we reach that point and petrol will be prioritized for army and war , everything else Will collapse. Farming is doomed , everything is mechanized, no one uses horse anymore and farming workers left for cities . No one except farmers stayed for farming . We can’t get back to the way it was before WW2 . I’m gonna buy food can , and more non-hybride (reproductible) seeds and potatoes to make my own food for 2026-27 . And hope this article is fear mongering

Alarming_Airline_69

Buy a bunker on 5 years of food supply, because WW3 is on

quiethandle

From an economic growth perspective, yes. We have given up the ability to produce goods ourselves based on the assumption that globalization will continue, but the US has recently made a huge shift away from globalization, which breaks the US's entire economic model. Moving away from globalization without first rebuilding our own manufacturing capacity also threatens the Dollar as the world reserve currency, and withdrawing from the world also threatens the petro-dollar. This fundamentally breaks the model that the US has benefitted from since WW2: foreign investments constantly flowing into Treasuries and never-ending demand for US Dollars allowing the US to borrow at low interest rates and print more dollars at will to do things like build the strongest military in the world, etc. without any real economic consequences. We are watching this model break down in real-time. Foreign nations have been reducing exposure to US Treasuries, and are starting to push against the petro-dollar. Foreign central banks have been loading up on gold instead. The US is not ready for this shift. Our businesses, banks, and government are simply not prepared for this. They are still set up as if everything will continue the way things were 10 years ago. It's simply not going to work, and adjusting to the new direction the world is going will be exceptionally painful if not outright disastrous. The big difference from what Japan went through, though, is that Japan didn't really have bad inflation. They kept interest rates ultra-low, but never had much inflation, per se, so stocks went down. I think we will see horrible inflation (stagflation) in the US over the coming 5-20 years, ultimately resulting in a currency reset. So while the Japanese stock market declined during their lost decades, our stock market, denominated in a crashing dollar, will skyrocket during our lost decades. Not enough to keep up with the loss of buying power though (stocks might go up by 5x, but the dollars they are priced in will lose 90% of their value), so holding stocks means you'd lose 50% of your wealth.

Candid-Elk6135

Nukes of today are not like nukes from WW2. Today's nuke would not only destroy Iran but at least 2/3 of the ME through radiation. It won't happen unless they want to die too.

fuck_reddits_trash

Iran isnt a little island. itd take 100s of warheads, which would cause deadly fallout over all the surrounding countries (including Israel) and probably even reaching China. youre talking potentially **1 Billion** innocent lives who arent even apart of the conflict. **12.5%** of earths population. you are talking orders of magnitude more lives than WW2.

NoPause9609

You went to play fake golf with a million in positions open, WW3 brewing and didn’t check your account?  Whose your daddy? 

ly5ergic

Sorry you think facts are reaching. It is legal and within perview. It is what it is, even if you disagree with it. I dont want the war or our president either. My comment wasn't about what Trump may or may not do after 90 days. We haven't been in official "war" since WW2. Since then every war has actually been a AUMF (authorization for military force) What Trump or anyone says dosen't change legal mechanisms or definitions. Article II in the constitution allows a president as commander and chief of the military to take action and the War Powers Resolution of 1973 gives a president 60 days and then they are supposed to wind down, safely remove troops by day 90 unless given a AUMF by congress. Many of the previous presidents have used article II to start some action without approval. This is somewhat normal. Some of these AUMF just stay active forever A 1991 AUMF for the Gulf war and a 2002 AUMF for the Iraq war were still active until 3 months ago. A 2001 AUMF for 9/11 terrorists is still Although many things say Trump has broken this law or that law. When you actually look into it he either hasn't, like this situation, or he has found a grey area / loophole / goes right to the edge of the law / or really pushes the interpretation of a law. The liberation day tarrifs are a good example of this. He used IEEPA which was a real stretch / just wrong use. The supreme court said no end of Feb and Trump removed those tarrifs. He then used a different law to replace the 10% base tarrifs but it only lasts 150 days so until July 24. Again legal. Clinton used article II in Kosovo. Obama used article II in Libya and blew past the 90 days because congress did not step in to stop or enforce it. April 30th should be day 60 and May 30th day 90. So I guess we will see what happens. Either find some other law, congress does nothing, or they get a AUMF.

Virtual_Being_4085

I hope the people in the submarines don't fire. Hegseth is religiously crazy enough not to stop Trump. If nukes are used, fallout hits Pakistan and WW3 starts.

Bigcam350

There haven’t even been troops on the ground… we’ve had like 15 supposed starts of WW3 in the past year.

Straabis

The fun is only just starting.. sit back and relax, this one is gona take a little time to work through the system.. but remember that a couple of years on, this is in the rearview mirror, and we’ll all be worrying about whatever covid / t-rex attack / WW4 is going down. If you’re invested in good quality companies, so nothing; none of the turmoil is personal to your companies. If you’re invested in meme junk.. well…. Here comes your jail sentence / this is your “the house always wins” moment.. take you punishment well and invest better next time.

Fancy_Goat685

When you realize we are on the same team as Germany for WW3 and Germany always loses world wars....

counterhit121

I'd protect my capital, be as liquid as possible, then swoop in to buy in a few months/1-2 years just before WW3 goes full bore and the American economy completely mobilizes for wartime production.

DifficultStrategy235

The picture looks very similar to 2008. High inflation (food prices) oil on a tear. Followed by collapse. Somthing to also chew on. Blackrock and Comex not being able to fill fund requests from accounts and filling Silver contracts. Smells. The Rich do not have a penny in the markets except on the short side. Oh did it mention the TRILLIONS of debt. China going to move on Taiwan. NATO having to step in. WW3. That’s what fixes this mess. Or so they think.

Neinhalt_Sieger

He has the option to go with a perpetual war and be done with it. If US is losing the world currency reserve status, he should be trialed and sentenced along with all his family for high treason IMO, because he single handedly destroyed the world leader position that us acquired after WW2. A very big achievement, but that is what americans deserve after putting a guy that actually staged the Capitol coup.

ItsyBitsySPYderman

Its days like today I remember a video i watched of a Ukrainian soldier who said, "WW3 already started, the American pussies just dont know it yet."

goodbyclunky

The US has never won a war in terms of fighting. WW2 was won by the Russians not the US. All the US did was mopping up some depleted under equipped and quickly assembled militias comprised from senior citizens and teenager ls with little training. Whenever US forces encountered capable Wehrmacht forces, they got their asses handed to them, like in north Africa and Hurtemberg Forrest. They can bomb from the sky, that's it. All a ground invasion of Iran is going to achieve is singlehandedly resolving the fertilizer crisis for Iran.

elpresidentedeljunta

The polish actually had one in WW2.

elpresidentedeljunta

It´s a whole week. Could start with green dildos and peace on earth and still end in WW3. The other way round is less likely, but ... ya know ... these days ...

CATLLM

BREAKING Foreign ministers of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkiye, Egypt to meet on Sunday - Aljazeera Green dildos next week or WW3?

CATLLM

Yemen joining the war, possibly other countries joining WW3

Own_Eggplant9896

Taking out new leaders again, supply local militia (they are not doing much now because they are not organized enough), boots on the ground to force regime change. That would be the final option. Russia and China are not going to risk WW3 so they will back out.

CardiologistEqual336

didn’t think WW3 would actually happen before GTA 6

Jericho3434

😂 the visualization hit me of an actual Storm Trooper shooting lasers storming the beach WW2 style.

Useful-Ad-280

80% of US crude is light. You have some kind of fixation for doom that would be appropriate for Asia or Europe which will get screwed. We'll be mostly fine barring WW 3 coming from this

Material_Formal3679

WW3 is gonna require the direct conflict of Europe, Russia, the US and/or China. This is a lead up if it goes in that direction.

TernTheNumbers

WW3 will never happen. Hundred Years’ War 2 started about 25 years ago with Putin’s rise to power and China’s entry into the WTO.

Equivalent_Song3771

Forget the Americans, let's hope the rest of the world's troops are safe. Because if they aren't it's WW3. You guys voted for this to happen. We didn't.

somewhere_cool

So when you guys look back at this time in the future, do you call this the lead up to WW3 or will you look at this as it's already started

Detonate-Ralph

https://x.com/WW3_Monitor/status/2037684571962069226 Bye bols

Decent-Order7358

50% from here? That would be 7% worse then the depression in 1931. Look at WW1 or WW2 both wars the stock market was up. I don’t know if we are going to be up or down this year and neither do you. The market has been over bought recently and it is due for a correction. Keep buying slowly. That’s all I’m saying.

14BrewMan

He mentioned the Sleepy One. WW3 imminent.

Emm2811

I guess he forgets that yes he does have all this military might, but technically they haven’t won a war since WW2

wasifaiboply

Buckle up motherfuckers because WW3 is already underway - the history books will cite an event that has already happened as the recognized beginning of the third global conflict. And if you aren't properly hedged you are so, so incredibly fucked. Good luck!

KnoxBruh

On the cusp of WW3 and you guys are looking at chart patterns to see what comes next? To me, Strait of Hormuz closed = market gonna close red till it reopens or a ceasefire is announced

PM_ME_YOUR_IBNR

Rational self: WW3 is imminent In-charge self: NVDA 185Cs for next week

hermeskino715

WW3 this weekend?

PaperHandsTheDip

Fair enough. It really depends on who is hit and who launched it. A nuke launched at \*any country\* would likely trigger WW3. Theroeticals aside - yes - it would be an absurd / unheard of drop. I find it incredibly unlikely & we're all probably fine. I kind of like OPs idea -- but it's too early to buy into TQQQ imo. Historically these bear cycles last for 6-9 months before bottoming & we're not even 2 months into this one. I'm also buying back into TQQQ (maybe even calls on it like he's done), but I'm waiting at least a few more weeks

Unluckyb33

Its an exaggeration but I'm making the worst case scenario for potential damage. Iran is by far the largest country the US has invaded, a country with a population of 90 million, bigger than both the 70 million population japan and germany had in WW2. They have the resources for a counter offensive, and if that happens, it will be devastating. It wont be just about oil Again, I dont think its the likely scenario, but its not an impossible scenario either. They've spent decades on Anti-US sentiment and now the US launched the first strike against Iran. They're more emboldened to do so than ever before. There are already reports of a ground invasion in kharg island, if they really go through with troops on the ground, it will be something that will affect the economy for years to come.

Sweaty_Platypus69

No way the Allies nor the world will want to get involved in this mess. It just bring 2 steps towards WW3.

Burtonwurton

Would be funny af if WW3 actually kicks off and all the stress we are all feeling right now is for nothing.

confused_teabagger

>Panama Canal Costs: From $15K to $300K Per Crossing >World: I sleep >Iran starts charging to transit strait >World: FUCKING WW3 NOW!!! Why are they burning the world markets to the ground because Iran wants to do something that everyone else does?

annon8595

because trump will actually do a WW3 to f them over?

moazzam0

Good and bad news related to the same topic have lesser impact over time. Think long term. America lost most wars since WW2. Market still goes up.

ChewbaccaIsBear

**Stop saying we´re entering WW3, it´s nothing like that, it´s COLD WAR 2...** People forget we had monstrous 10-20 year wars with MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of dead in the COLD war: vietnam, Korea, taiwan, aphganistan vs soviets, Angola, Iran-Iraq, Cambodia, etc. etc. ... **we talking 20-30 million DEAD in cold war wars... as long as there are no nukes, it´s just Cold War 2**

Automatic-Mountain45

this matrix of chaos seems unsolvable. In retrospect,I think future generation will say that this is WW3, there's way too many competing interests and fronts.

Ecomonist

Read up on the Gallipoli Campaign in WW1 ...

Affectionate-Panic-1

Though depends on what year you use to calculate long term averages. Frankly I'd throw out anything before 1990 or so, because before index funds and the internet it was more expensive for most people to invest, and taxes on the wealthy post WW2 were more of a roadblock to collecting wealth than they are today.

Revelati123

Holy fuck, my shitty little 2x margin account looks like someone fed it feet first through a woodchipper, cant imagine what a port full of calls looks like, I used to joke this market would pump on WW3. Guess Don finally figured out how to kill it...

hurcoman

So imagine this: In WW2 president Roosevelt calls up supreme commander Eisenhower and tells him to wait for DDay until the market closes because his billionaire buddies have a big bet going on. And because of opsec being too hard the need to broadcast all plans in the open so Rommel can hear it on his radio. That’s where we are at.

HadamardConditions

Just in: Boots on the ground in Kharg and Hormuz this weekend, Iran swears to defend both. WW3 here we come!

knoqd_

WW3 is transitory

PrudentLingoberry

Not WW3 but definitely end of the current world order if it is Israel's strike. I think India and Pakistan war will go nuclear after Israel's strike but the US, Russia and China probably already negotiated to not kill each other in such an event. If the US does it, then its likely that the US falls into a weird civil war as its clear that the guy at the helm lost his rocker and risks fucking up everything. Its likely that whoever launched the nukes gets irrecoverably fucked up by whatever Iran has up their sleeve. Also petroyuan regime becomes the wsb meme several months earlier.

financiallythriving

Buy in after WW3 ends (we haven’t even started WW3)

alba_Phenom

Majority of the population is irrelevant, only the percentage of the population who vote are relevant, especially to us in Europe… because if you don’t even give a shit enough to vote when you have a guy like this running, you might as well have voted for him. I understand that many Americans despise but from our perspective, we have to look at in terms of risk of the dumbest perc of your voting public supporting another guy like this, maybe even worse and hedge our bets. The impact that this is having is incalculable… we could literally end up in WW3 or at least a large scale Europe war in the short term because of this guys actions, choice of words and the people around him.

ForceGoat

Yeah, read the comments. Read the room. Fear is absolutely dominating right now. People have been talking about "greed" like there's been euphoric greed over the last few months. In the last year or so, I've heard nothing but skepticism about AI, doubts about AI spending, and complaints about AI buildout. I've heard nothing but fear about private credit collapsing. Now there's the war that stokes fear about WW3 or whatever. Fear is at an all time high. And anyone that says differently is just wrong. I've been buying. I remember how awful April felt (I didn't even buy, and I kicked myself), this feels as bad, if not worse. So you should buy, because, read the room, everyone else is selling.

MortgageTime1805

If US commited to a WW2 level total war, then yes, easily. But this is no longer the 1940s. That kind of war is basically unthinkable now. Saying yeah we can win if we use our full power is stupid because its an option that is never going on the table. In the hypothetical scenario where it happens, hundreds of thousands of Americans will die.

Beagle001

No towns are flipping. That delusion has to be ling dead. Some of them may hate their government but all we are now are imperialists that bombed their country. Urban warfare will be brutal because they won’t have friends. Jumpy marines cause more civilian deaths no matter what and that will be used as more propaganda. See where’re this goes? Just like every other ear we’ve been in after WW II.