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bullrfuk

WSB whenever there is the slightest disturbance: "WW3 is coming" WSB when the disturbance ends: "it was so obvious"

PlanetSaturn777

WW3. Hope you’re ready

Throwingdartsmouth

My 3-year-old pronounces aliens as "Aryans" and I can't help but laugh at how, if it were accurate, it would recontextualize WW2.

Ceyenne18

HK and SG says "no biggie". Japs think WW3 has started.

SuspiciousSnotling

WW3? How do I invest in nuclear warfare?

politicalinvestor

It’s not a bubble though lol. I’ve literally been a technician and now in sales I’ve literally watched Ai take thousands upon thousands of useless jobs that can be done with robots. Ai is to stay only thing different is new skill sets around this development. Or WW3 and power grid gets wiped out.

Much_Researcher_3592

Is it WW3?

SuffiecientSapian

If WW3 threats and Iran legit threatening to nuke the USA didn’t bring down the market this sure as fuck won’t. I’m buying the dip

genericusername784

Shit I'd have bought mercedes shares in the middle of WW2 if I could have, my money doesn't need a concience.

stupidber

Thatsnot even conflict. WW2 was a conflict.

isolated-cat

did WW3 break out?

LeftTesticleOfGreatn

Which is why gold has been a store of value for millennia. Bough safe passage out of Iraq, Venezuela, Afghanistan or even in WW2 from Nazis and commies

Fearless_Strike5651

Do some real research on the biggest AI bears out there or people who think it’s a Bubble , it’s the same group that never got in, sold too early, or is still waiting for that mythical pullback. This bull run that started in 2020 shook a lot of people out. Think about all the crowds that jumped ship too soon, The COVID rally doubters, the 2023 ‘recession is guaranteed’ crowd, the Ukraine WW3 panic crew, the ‘market’s too high’ valuation preachers, the tariff doomers, the dead cat bouncers , and we just gone done with the seasonality truthers. lol Every cycle they just rename the same fear. Meanwhile, the market keeps climbing, innovation keeps compounding, and those bears are still waiting for the crash that never comes.

LucariusLionheart

Yeah 😅 WW3

MrDown_Jones

Thanks for proving you’re an idiot talking out of your ass. The fucking visual augmentation is just some high res cameras that help the pilot see in front and below the plane for landing/takeoff since the nose of this test bed aircraft extends much farther than your typical aircraft, effectively reducing the pilot visibility to zero during landing and takeoff phases of flight. You know what other aircraft have this problem? Fucking tail daggers from WW2. Shut the fuck up and stop acting like a know it all.

BopSupreme

WW3 in Venezuela incoming 🤯

NotMe357

WW1?

upwy

don't watch WW2 movies. theres other stuff that deserve movies too, not just WW2.

djquu

WW3 confirmed, calls on nukes

Kind_Eye_748

Tax them more? Its not hard to work out, They were getting taxed at like 80 to 80% during the "great times" when America became a global superpower after WW2. Skip 50 years and their fuck all tax rate is still too much of a burden? Get a grip, Tax billionaires out of existence if they want to keep extracting wealth out of our countries.

Wonderful_Eagle_6547

The key word in my last sentence was "was". When the US got involved in Vietnam in the 50s, they had been decimated by a famine at the end of WW2, Communists had made a mess of any semblance of French industrial development in the north, and the growing insurgency in the South was disruptive to the more agrarian south. The Americans were concerned about not just the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia, but the spread of Soviet-influenced international communism (anti-capitalist) vs. Chinese-influenced international communism (which was more anti-colonial in nature). And most of all, they were concerned about the unified Sino-Soviet block spreading throughout Asia and forcing the US out of the region entirely. The US at the time had the Soviets and Chinese penned in on the Pacific side with large American military installations in Korea, Japan, and the Phillippines and the British still based in Singapore and Hong Kong. The US's strategy focused on forcing the Chinese and the Soviets to cooperate on Vietnam to strain their relationship and squeezing China on trade through leveraging our international relationships. This created a dependency on the Soviet economy to produce and export higher end or higher complexity items (industrial equipment, machinery, military hardware) rather than getting it from other international trading partners, and the Soviets were barely able to produce enough for their own country let alone a neighboring country of nearly a billion people with aspirations of industrialization. By 1970, Mao had decided he's rather be friends with the wealthy former colonizers than Brezhnev's poor nephew, and it didn't help the everyone remembered when the Russian Empire annexed territories the size fo the US East of the Mississippi less than 100 years prior. Once that alliance was broken up and the VC insurgency was destroyed, the US had very limited interest in maintaining a presence in Vietnam and troop drawdown happened quickly after 1969. The popular perceiption that the war was ended in a loss without achieving the objectives of the war was something of a cover story because, "we don't care about this place where all our boys have been dying because China and Russia don't like each other anymore" didn't sound that great. Our ultimate objectives were to fight in Vietnam without pulling China directly into the war (which btw is what we were supposed to do in Korea until that fucking idiot MacArthur went off the reservation) which was why the ground war was contained largely to the South. We did the same thing to Iran in Iraq and Afghanistan (and pulled out when the Middle East lost strategic importance in the wake of the US becoming the swing producer of oil in the 2010s). Russia is currently doing the same thing in Ukraine, but poorly executing the strategy (trying to strain the NATO relationship, but they have lost 10 times as many troops as the US did in Vietman and depleted their military power).

cinciNattyLight

If it gets down to $10 we would likely be in WW3 or a few weeks away from an asteroid the size of Kansas hitting the Earth.

lOo_ol

*"the world would not care that much"* That's the point you halfwit. They tried peaceful protests and national strikes back in 1936. Look where that led them. The genocide in Algeria by the French started in 1830. The total number of civilians killed is estimated to be between 1 and 1.5 million people, unfathomable numbers. You want to know when it stopped? Guerilla warfare, the killing of the French in Algeria, which caused the general public in France to turn against the occupation... because like you, they gladly turned the blind eye until they felt threatened, allowing their government to slaughter and oppress for money. During WW2, the European resistance killed thousands of civilians. Nazi press and general public called them terrorists (dissidents was the term used back then). You can see which side you're on.

lOo_ol

If you wonder how the German people could turn the blind eye on what was done during WW2, how the US government can, without any protest, transfer so much taxpayers money to Israel when so many Americans don't have access to affordable healthcare, or how a known pedophile and convicted felon who can't form a proper sentence in the only language he speaks could get elected, just read this comment section.

freakynastydog

Trump said he's ready for WW3!

andrerom

Beyond rare earth minerals (being diversified) or a Taiwan invasion (WW3). **The real story is demand, supply, and technology dynamics**: * **Game:** China is flooding the market with open LLMs & pushing efficiency after Meta killed Llama. * **Set:** A wave of cheaper, competitive AI chips—many from China—is coming within the next years. * **Match:** LLM progress is plateauing, competition intensifies, price war emerges and margins collapse. Eventually demand for high-end chips falls. **In short:** The AI bubble doesn’t need a geopolitical trigger to burst. Market forces and technological saturation alone could bring it down within a few years.

Individual-Mirror132

Stocks usually fall before the war but begin to sharply rise once the war begins. WW2 ended the Great Depression.

Happy_Discussion_536

Very unlikely with WW II deficits and very loose monetary policy.

xeuropa

Woman reporter the star of the meeting. About to start WW3🫠🫠🫠

Notathrowawayokchad

You should dig more into it. They can’t mine from their property yet because it was abandoned in WW2 but they have a hearing in January about whether or not they can mine or not.

LifeIsAnAdventure4

Who do you think will weather WW3 the best, the rich guy or the poor guy?

rpindahouse97

Right? But that's my goal. We need to stop the USA before the whole World ends up living in a post financial collapse/ post WW3 dystopic reality where everyone is poor and the population controlled by elites through AI infrastructure. The collective conciousness must awake.

omegahustle

I think the next big crash will be caused by WW3, is the only thing that has enough catalytic power to do it and has some considerable probability of happening

gamjatang111

nazis did not win WW2 lol

BigYellowTurtle

Maybe countries are taking public stakes in private companies. US army never fought against a real enemy. In a WW 1vs the world USA will never win Like the nazi did

Smooothoperat0r

Agreed. Listened to the first hour today. Well worth the read/listen. So glad I saw your rec. I am actually looking forward to listening tomorrow. Glad you responded so I could continue this thought. Any other books in this vein worth a read? I think you might like Adam Tooze, Crashed. All about the housing crisis. Read the paperback in 2020 and it was huge book but man is it great to explain what happened. He’s also got an incredible thesis on the failure of Germany in WW2 based on economics. The video on YouTube is fantastic. About 1 hour long highly detailed and academic. He says Germany was destined to fail based on economics alone. It’s highly compelling.

Emotional_Goal9525

WW2 was basically an extended market crash.

ShakeAndBakeThatCake

Globalization has killed this sadly. And that generation benefited from a post world war 2 economy. The US was basically the only game in town post WW2 while Europe and Japan rebuilt. China was still trying to figure out how to unify and wasn’t a major player yet either. The US is a declining global force. It’s still important but less so than it was back then. That economic period will never come back again.

fabmeyer

Yes you're right on one hand but on the other hand this would mean WW3

Happy_Discussion_536

Dotcom credit conditions and Fed policy: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=1L3YT&height=490 https://i.imgur.com/qqQcLaM.png Vs. today: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=1L3Va&height=490 https://i.imgur.com/lwFwi7r.png Clinton also ran large surpluses and balanced budget. Trump fired trillions in stimulus to fight Covid in 2020 and still running WW2 level deficits. You can't compare the two eras.

JudgeCheezels

You're right, but only in theory. TSM is indeed the chain that holds this entire bubble afloat. But you have to understand that China has more to lose if they want to start WW3.

No-Estimate-1510

If you work in the rare earth value chain you will realize the chances of US / western funded alternatives to Chinese REE supply chain succeeding is close to 0. The executives at many of these meme companies are there purely to scam government subsidies (like Northvolt in the EU). The stocks may be good pump and dump plays over the next few years as US China relationship remains volatile, but unless there is WW3 and US and China are on opposite sides, the long term value of these REE scams in the west should all be 0.

CumomEileen

Dude I can’t think of a bag I’m not holding at this point. GLD, LCID, OXY, WW, BYND, ZM to name a few. I didn’t miss one 

gomper

Ozempic killed WW

onlyforstockstuff

Wild to me to see the rumors building of QT easing and now "Gyna maybe not bad".... SPY to 1k.... Glad I saw inflation coming a long time ago and started learning where to put my money. We go all in boys. LAMBOS OR WW3 is the play. All in on the American stock market. If it fails, we have bigger fish to fry than our paper toilet wipes 💸

TheBooneyBunes

#Yeah I know. The point is a similar event kicked off WW1. The joke is that it’s a subtitle

dassketch

> way too regulated Not really. Middle management bloats in peacetime and all the "value add" comes in the form of "project management". America hasn't had to run lean since WW2. Powell wished he had a money printer like the Pentagon's.

Fair-Currency-9993

Just like how Germany was on the offensive in WW2 but the long term strategists knew it was a matter of time. The allies had more industrial capacity and would sooner or later outproduce Germany and Germany would also run out of oil unless they could secure more supplies.

lastofthethroawayys

Lol he can't win this one. Ontario controls 25% of the power generation for the US and during winter they can easily go up in price. Trump's already underwater. This is the equivalent of fighting the Soviets and the British in WW2.

InstructionBig746

Canada and the rest of the nato countries are already vassal states. Kinda have been since WW2

Character_Economy928

Adjusted for inflation, the top spending countries for military was USA at 1.7 trillion Germany at 998 billion UK and Japan at 330 billion Soviet Union at 160 billion I thought that was a cool fact, and how serious WW2 was.

Character_Economy928

Adjusted for inflation, the top spending countries for military was USA at 1.7 trillion Germany at 998 billion UK and Japan at 330 billion Soviet Union at 160 billion I thought that was a cool fact, and how serious WW2 was.

SpoonyDinosaur

Lol oops yeah no idea where that came from. A million. Still double WW2, but yeah half a billion 😂😂 I'm insane my bad

PrthReddits

Here's why to keep investing -All the elite top 0.1% are in stocks, and the government will keep bailing them out. -Money supply increases fast asf especially post 2008 because of the above. -401k autobuys and corporate stock buybacks keep the US markets constantly going up. Even pension funds invest into cancer 0-morals private equity because it's a good ROI. -Everyone else spam buys so you have to as well (see entirety of Reddit comments who can assume like it's a fact the S&P will yield 10% annually yoy if you average it out over like 20-30 years, despite that only being a thing since the US has been booming since post WW2) Basically, it's all vibes and fundamentals don't matter anymore because of the above

LouB0O

For me it is the microwave tech. RTX dipped their toes and continue to develop a solution to an issue that you and I could face if WW3 happens. Guess I am investing in my future in a weird way?

betrayed247

Gonna need WW3 this weekend to save my Gold calls.. 😭

DONNIENARC0

I dont think it’s even relevant tbh. When Democrats talk about gun control they’re usually talking about assault rifles.. and sometimes handguns The gun used to kill Charlie Kirk was an antique bolt-action rifle that belonged to the killer’s grandfather, though, who probably brought it back from WW2 or something like that. I don’t think *anyone* is pushing to ban guns like that in the US.

Final-Marsupial4117

Something similar to what was said in post WW2 Italy, there was nothing. Even if you had money, it didn't matter, there was nothing to buy.

-IQ200

What if there were some John Kennedy like event at the 🥭 and 🇨🇳 meeting. WW3 catalyst. 👀

VeryImportantPinga

Yo announce a WW3 wtf is this shit

betrayed247

WW3 when? 😞

BrainMale

About to sell my puts so expect WW3 announcement or liberation day pt 2.5 in the next few hours

ronoudgenoeg

The entire western world has been doing it since WW1, ramped up during WW2, and then again during 70s onwards when the US went off the gold standard. Debt financing, even at high levels isn't really new. As long as debt growth - inflation < productivity growth x population, it works out. If that's not the case for prolonged periods of time, there's problems. Regardless, what do you do as a retail investor? If you sit out of assets while debt is increasing rapidly, you're just burning your savings away via inflation.

ShadowLiberal

The government didn't actually purchase stock to own and control the companies in WW2. They just passed war time laws/etc. to take control of the entire economy and micro-manage what companies were producing (like making the auto makers start building tanks for example).

MrCockingFinally

That wasn't one continuous time of deficit spending. Debt to GDP reached a peak during WW2, then fell rapidly after, all way until the 1980's when Reagan started spending heavily while cutting taxes. Then Clinton ran surpluses in the '90s, bringing the debt down again. Debt rose again during the war on terror,when absolutely shot up during the GFC. The issue really started when spending didn't really go down while the economy was doing pretty well between the GFC and COVID. So when the COVID spike came, debt was already elevated. Then Trump came in and started spending like crazy. It's healthy for an economy to carry debt and for a government to spend with a surplus during downturns. The problem is, many governments forget you need to reduce spending and raise taxes during the good times to pay for all the excess spending during the bad times. Debt becomes impossible to inflate or GDP away once the debt starts growing faster than your GDP and inflation. Inflation in particular is problematic, because as we saw recently voters HATE inflation.

__redruM

> Because certainly debt cannot continue to grow forever. And we have seen many cases of countries debts get completely out of control, and it tends not to end well for them. So what’s different here? The US started deficit spending in WW2, and did so in earnest in the 1960s. Almost 60 years at this point. So when does your debt become imposible to inflate, or GDP away?

MitchCumStains

If you want to lose money, just give it to me, not wallstreet. Turns out people dont care about fake meat when everyone has bigger problems at the moment. AI, robots, economic collapse, fascism, WW III, etc.

didkhdi

Ya it's ironic, options are free money if you are overly optimistic about the future since most people massively underestimate positive outcomes. I will always remember a story from a Japanese friend of mine who said his dad knew a guy who predicted that after WW2 Japan's economy would grow to be second in the world leading the way in new technologies and cultures. He was thrown in an insane asylum.

Quirky-Top-59

Remember when FDR fought WW2 and took over companies for that effort?

spreadzz

Again… it’s called WW1 because it was on multiple continents. The “triggering” event was indeed in Europe. But also US was not “dragged” in the war, it joined because it has political and economic interests. Saying that WW1 led to WW2 is a huge over-simplification. There we’re multiple causes which have very big similarities to our times. For due to many factors nationalism gain a lot of traction which both in Europe and US which leads to fascism and dictatorships which is what is happening in US but also around Europe. It’s funny how we are discussing this on a capitalist sub. Also do not get me started on how many wars US started or influenced.

MrEdwL

WW3 back on?

scytob

most of US growth after the WW2 bump has come from growth in population fueld by immigration - a good example as a contrast is Japan where there is almost no signifcant immmigration

beyonddisbelief

We don’t lead them in tech across the board, not before and not now. Russia is still far ahead of us in missiles, cyber warfare, artificial diamonds, etc. They basically beat us in rocket science since WW2.

666KekLord420

Please look up who started WW1, which directly led into WW2 Pro tip: it was all Europe, who then dragged America in

scorpia95

All we need is a rate cut and WW3 to save us 😂

Particular-Break-205

But what if this is the start of 2008/2000/Great Depression/WW3/bubble popping/<insert buzz word> /s

didkhdi

True. The funny thing is if you asked a Japanese guy after WW2 what would happen in his lifetime and he said his Economy would 600x you would think he was nuts.

Me-Regarded

People scared about banks and WW3... None of that happened but momentum is a powerful force... Until it slows, then this too shall fall

Prairiedawg_420

$200 to 12.5k in a week, back down to 2k. good thing I’m swinging puts that expire tomorrow so I’ll be rich when WW3 starts overnight

lalaland4711

Shorting gold on brink of WW3. Good luck. > I don’t want to get margin called but also don’t want to sell at a loss. Ah yes, loss aversion.

Yabuduzhdat

Should i hold INTC through WW3?

Drokstab

Wasn't the US in just an extremely favorable economic position after WW2? Between Europe being absolutely trashed and a ton of soldiers returning home flush with cash to start families and businesses, I'd think that would have had a positive impact for awhile.

Suoritin

English Pound didn't lose its role overnight. It was long process. 1914-1918 massive war debts weakened the pound. After WW2, Bretton Woods system (1944) established the U.S. dollar as the anchor of the global monetary system.

captain_ahabb

>The only reason the U.S. economy still functions is because global demand for dollars remains high enough to absorb our endless debt expansion but that demand is eroding fast. Extremely loud incorrect buzzer The US economy functions for several reasons: 1. Vast reserves of natural resources and agricultural land 2. The enormous centralization of world capital after WW2 3. Globalized demand for American cultural products 4. Huge intellectual property moat 5. Largest and most prestigious higher education system 6. The world's most effective technology and professional services firms 7. Large, educated, affluent consumer base (also means a large, affluent tax base btw) And it doesn't matter if we have "endless debt expansion" or not. The United States is functionally immortal, issues its own debt in its own currency and has permanently increasing nominal revenue due to economic growth and inflation. People don't want to admit this because it goes against what *feels* right but it's true: we actually totally can just roll the debt over indefinitely. The actual danger is from interest payments as a % of GDP, and we are not at all-time highs there.

Techchick_Somewhere

Just sell when you have a profit - if that’s pre market then go it for. I got caught with something similar when WW went bankrupt and restructured. You never know how it’s going to go.

Primary_Register_526

Is that what you were told? That in the wreckage of WW3 we'll be using nternet coins for trade?

BusyWorkinPete

They have enough nukes to end the world. Military success isn’t want makes a country a superpower…the US hasn’t won a war since WW2.

Uninsurable_Risk

A lot of people who you argue with here are not from America. Our history books have some brutal truths about our own misdeeds when our nations formed like residential schools in Canada... they also have some brutal truths about slavery. We also dived deep into WW2 history. We know what a damn Nazi is. We know what fascism stands for. If you did too you would see how there is really only one valid stance when the ideology comes up and that is to oppose it. The ones who do not know what fascism is are the ones being vocal defending the fascists from being called out for what they are. Regarding no one being concerned about communism if they live in the real world... I actually agree. The problemm is you have a LARGE % of people in USA who DO NOT live in the real world. So many of them think Harris and Biden are communists and have been quite vocal about it while letting it shape their own political identity.

stupidber

Outside is where WW2 happened

atropear

Dollar was good on gold and high tariffs even with all the debt taken on for WW1. Now they could fire 80% federal workers and stop pointless wars and get things back on track financially. Germany used the mark devaluation as a debt jubilee in 1924 and were expanding a year or two later.

Sufficient_Sport5251

The dollar is experiencing a decline because of tariffs my man, not because of deficits. The US will never not be able to pay back its current debt, it is the inflation caused by tariffs that makes debt held in USD worth less this devaluing the dollar. Any stock with a P/E of more than 1 or less than 0 is over valued in real terms, and should be treated as what it really is, which is a speculative asset not much better than a futures or options contract. Long term confidence is also driven down by the fact that every major economy is currently in a war, asleep at the wheel, or actively in a state of non-functioning. China - faced real estate and market collapses in the past 3 years France - no functioning government since 2022 Germany - Overdependent on foreign imports(asleep) US - eclectic executive policy with a non-functioning legislature and roughshod legal system. England - reeling from Brexit/Incompetence Poland and Bloc countries - all bracing for the return of Stalin Russia - actively at war and in a lukewarm Cold War with about half of the global economy. India - on the verge of war with Pakistan, Modi’s government is mediocre at best(asleep). Brazil - unstable following Bolsonaro South Africa - almost had a civil war two years ago. The list goes on The USD isn’t going anywhere bc chines currency isn’t worth shit, gold is inflating too much to back anything useful, crypto is a new speculative asset class, WW3 in 6 months - 2 years depending on factors(argument that soft WW3 is already here). Deficit spending isn’t focused on cost sinking, but instead focused on reducing economic output(ICE). Interest rates will crater in a year bc that is when Powell will be gone. Great Depression 2 in 2029 or 2030 bc we seem dedicated to making history rhyme.

HistoricalEmu9590

The US learn an expensive lesson? More like MAGA. Most everyone else understands, on some level, that free trade and lower barriers to trade benefit consumers. This is just Chairman Trump and his backwards looking policies that aim to restore 1940s, pre-WW2 USA. It won't hit MAGA acolytes that he's destroying the country until they have higher utility bills, higher grocery bills, no healthcare, no federal services, no jobs, no homes, and he's created monuments to himself while making billions for himself and his family.

CliffordCBanes

Real estate in locations or projects that will weather possible disasters well, have good price appreciation and rental income. It will be worse than the stock market or even precious metals long term, but it can be safer if disaster happens. For example, no one will give a f**k about Namibia, Zanzibar, or rural Thailand like Chiang Mai during WW3, deadly pandemic, or economic depression of the century. These places will likely fare better due to low population density and people wanting to go to quiet places during times of upheaval.

The247Kid

lol China hasn’t even been in a war since WW2. They have a total of zero generals and zero commanding officers with any actual battle experience. Americans could have glassed Vietnam and Korea but the optics don’t look great.

SchagDeLag

Ok..cool...super irrelevant. We are in 2025 Buddy, where have you been all these Years? Glad you survived the Great Depression and the WW2.

lOo_ol

They openly talk about getting Taiwan back though diplomatic means, and even if they say "one day we'll invade them", put that in perspective with the number of countries the US has actually invaded 1970. "They support Russia" They're friendly with Russia. There's a difference. For instance, the US supports Israel, a genocidal ethno-state, which happens to be the only country in recent history that banned journalists from entering their warzone and reporting on their actions, by sending billions of dollars every year in money and weapons, while Americans don't even have universal healthcare. Israel slaughtered between 50,000 to 100,000 civilian women and children over the last 48 months, after running the most brutal apartheid regime since WW2. But sure, China bad because they buy oil from Russia. Got it ;)

99cents2

Can we just stand around and blow raspberries at each other for a while? I'm hoping that is the way WW3 will be fought.

ShootingGuns10

This chart doesn’t have any world wars on it. When it feels like we’re on the brink of WW3 sometimes I don’t think this is solid investment advice. Who knows what something like WW3 would do to the economy.

Me-Regarded

Spot on. Literally nothing ber say make sense, just rambling on about Orange man and WW3, bubbles, something about PE Ratios

gclary

WW2 started in December