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WordsHappenedHere

Fun fact. During WW2, one of the scariest times in the history of our country. School children were doing nuclear bomb drills during the day. Tens of thousands of people died. The market doubled. Let me just say this to you plainly. The market doesn’t fucking care about Iran. It never did. The selling was a simple short term liquidity drain. And on July 4th more billions of dollars going to hit the market from those “Trump accounts”. Just blind dumb money buying S&P. Get long. Average in over time. Always buy dips. Stay invested. I’ve been doing this a long time. It’s really that simple.

Utilize3372

We're about to boom and prosper the likes of which not even seen when the boys of WW2 came home. This is the greatest victory in the history of the USA!

An_Unusual_Mind

Funds are not being released to Iran and Israel is continuously bombing Lebanon, and u say peace deal. Peace deal is only when 1 side surrenders like Japan in WW2.

TJMBeav

According to Bulls it seems like Iran won. Using that logic Japan won WW2 because they kept the emporer. LMAO

FeelingRain

Bears have been desperately calling for WW3 and showers of missiles this weekend. God just stfu and accept these dildos

Prize-Director-7896

Who thinks the S&P is "risky"? It's conservative, it's more volatile than like, say, US bonds? Are emerging markets really considered "safer" than the S&P? How many 20 and 30 year periods over the past 100-150 years of pure S&P turned out lower than a basket including "emerging markets"? If the long-term average of dollar-cost-averaging returns for all rolling 20 or 30 year periods in the last 100-150 years is much better with the S&P, what does it mean to say it's "risky"? Does "risky" mean "it's dropped 40+% in single years before", even though every drawdown since WW2 has literally been regained within 2-5 years? "Risky" isn't the same thing as "more volatile." Real "risk" has to do with unrecoupable losses of levels of utility that are non-negotiable. If there were a machine that would multiply your total wealth by 100x but there was a 1% chance you would lose everything, that would be "risky" for a 70 year old retiree, but a great deal for a 20 or 30 year old. The S&P isn't "risky" for a 20-40 year old, but it might be for an 80 year old who has a plan to exhaust their funds in under 10 years,

Infinite-Anybody204

Wtf Trump was born the year after WW2?

savingstrainagain

America has to decouple from the fusion it has made with Israel since WW2 ended. That would open up an entire other host of problems if they did that. It’s quite the pickle.

OrangMiskin

Haven’t won a single war since WW2. LMAO

Inst_Sock_Sales_Rep

US men's soccer vs. Germany men's soccer would be a great match Bringing back WW2 memories 

zztop610

Calls on WW3

Worried_Quarter469

I feel like he’d love to start WW3 on his birthday at a UFC cage match at the White House

NiceOwner

My bloodline fought for both sides of WW II, I would have been fine either way.

Alternative_Bad8560

Sure. It'd look REALLY GOOD if Trump ended his extended military campaign.  Remember, it isn't a war until CONGRESS SAYS SO like WW2.

Shot-Buy6013

There's nothing wrong with investing in the future. But there's clearly something very wrong with the companies people are banking on for investing in the future. AI slop, toxic social media platforms, and the hardware used to support the AI slop and toxic social media platforms. Nothing of genuine human progress or value is being created, if those companies disappeared tomorrow, absolutely nothing would change about humanity - not even in our communications as those platforms aren't what the internet is. WW2 was actual a great period of innovation. Modern computing, aviation, medicine tech, jet engines, GPS, radar, and so on. THOSE are humanity-changing technologies that were worth investing into. A language model that can take language input and turn it into an image of a cat isn't (plus, that's old tech) Let's not even get into the personalities and characters who are in charge of these companies with a $2 trillion market cap. Conmen, scammers, liars, and political extremists. Historically whenever humanity had a time where almost those kinds of people were at the top, shit hit the fan - through world wars, genocides, and revolutions. Like Rome's Nero. Anyways, I'm on this subreddit because it's all over the news and Reddit's algorithm recommended it to me. I will not be buying stock or even investing in my 401K for the forseeable future but that's my personal choice. People are free to do what they want with their money, I'm not buying into this system yet.

Worried_Quarter469

WW3 will wipe out the government and no more restrictions, bullish

Iodide

Marketing/propaganda is the Great Filter apparently, it has far outpaced humanity and evolution. In WW1-WW2 they really weaponized it, and in the 80 years of experience since then, they've added psychology, neuroscience, and trillions of dollars. In 2010 it was outrageous that video games would spend 75% of their budget on marketing, only 25% on actually developing a good game, make a terrible game, and make record profits on it. Since then, we had Trump try to murder us during covid, and come out hard as a PDFfile, and still talking "3rd term"

Ok-Adeptness-5834

I respect the conviction and consistency, even though I disagree with it. Obviously the world can end but something like an asteroid or nuclear bombs or virus seems more likely to me. But that doesn’t stop people from investing in the future just cause it may happen. And we’ve been through so much worse: Great Depression, two world wars, oil shocks, financial crisis. I don’t see anything on the level of WW2 coming our way.

Adrestia2790

https://youtu.be/6N-WW0UDrVQ?t=2120

ianlulz

Wealth inequality is ultimately the cause of nearly every major empire’s fall throughout history. When the rich plunder too deeply from the poor, the balance of means is disrupted and the social contract is broken — resulting in uprising, war, revolution, rebellion, etc. etc. Empires inevitably fall from within, and the cycle repeats for another 100-150 years or so. We’re not especially close to that yet in America; the average person still has too much to tip the balance towards revolt. While wealth inequality may be the worst it’s ever been, it still takes far less (relative) wealth to survive nowadays compared to the last time the balance was mostly reset (WW2). I give it two to three generations.

LazyDazyFazy

WW for world war or what

MeneerDeAdviseur

Skipping SpaceX. Already all-in on WW. 24,025 shares @ $9.53 (price almost $20 now). No cash left anyway

skymagic

WW3 is over, WW4 next

skymagic

there will never be another time in history on the teetering edge of a WW3 and the eve of an inter-galactic space IPO 😅😅😅

Outrageous_Tax1328

In other breaking news, Germany and Japan have declared victory in WW2

klingma

I don't know why you're being snarky as if you're making a good point? From a purely military standpoint targeting the infrastructure & manufacturing capabilities of an enemy is a surefire way to cripple their ability to engage in a sustained retaliation. It's why the allies in WW2 bombed the German & Japanese industrial sites to kingdom come.  However, doing this, would bring about extreme international condemnation and realistically isn't worth it.

MeneerDeAdviseur

My WW average $9.53. WW closed at $19.58. $20 is a psychological level. My psychology is already gone 😄

InjuryEmbarrassed532

Sure thing, even if it happens, it will be bought up by the asset owning class pretty quickly. The time of the middle class is over, it was a nice post WW2 experiment. It would take a lot more disruption and pain than some arbitrary “market crash” to bring us back to ideals of the past.

AccidentDesperate5

There was no fucking way that Elon was going to let WW3 fuck his IPO

LiveMotivation

Nikki Haley gaslighting WW3

weekendbackpacker

America took advantage of Britain during WW2 to gain tech [source](https://nypost.com/2015/09/27/the-trunk-containing-britains-secrets-that-saved-the-world/). Japan and South Korea used reverse engineering to get ahead, now China is doing the same. The EU absolutely can (but won't and will just regulate itself into a corner)

Vegetable-Historian1

One drone on a desalinization plant across the strait and we are in WW3

SouthernEntrance6986

WW3 entered the room

dayzdayv

If AI tells them to change the cheddar biscuit recipe it will be the catalyst for WW3

TheShowtime7

Stocks went up in under a month of every major war, even WW2. Why is this any different? Just the initial panic causes the market to drop but eventually goes back to normal.

Spy300

>NATO WILL THINK ABOUT DEPLOYING FORCES TO HORMUZ IF THE STRAIT REMAINS CLOSED BY JULY. WW3 may be closer than you think.

ZealousidealGrab1827

Maybe the guy that has the cattle delivery happening was smart, after-all. Food in the bunker for WW3.

ZealousidealGrab1827

Monday, couple days to final peace deal. Today, couple days from WW3.

Eggsalad_

How do I buy puts on WW3?

Kurdwadat

A U.S. B-52 Bomber has taken off from southern Italy heading towards the Middle East [https://x.com/WW3\_Monitor/status/2064724075621011808](https://x.com/WW3_Monitor/status/2064724075621011808)

TrumpsCummyOnahole

WW3 priced in

SkaldCrypto

All wars have a negative effect on stocks. Most notably during WW2 it took nearly 4 years to break even on indexes

Dyce10x

That’d be great. Factor in WW3 so it can be 0

DanielSupremo

Well it's official, WW3 tomorrow 

FeverTreeCloud

WW3😤

PulIthEld

WW2 was wildly different than the current situation. What factories does the U.S. have pumping out equipment to allies?

WordsHappenedHere

Listen up and listen well. The market doesn’t care about the strikes in Iran. Study your history. War is bullish. During WW2. One of the most consequential times in our history. Tens of thousands of lives lost. Children in schools were doing nuclear bomb drills. Suburban families were building bomb shelters. Fear and despair were the norm. What did US markets do? They DOUBLED. No one cares about Irans shit drones. Or 🥭 and his broken promises. The market would like this whole thing removed from the equation. But it doesn’t fucking care. Stop buying puts because you think the war matters. What matters now is 1. SpaceX IPO. Will it tank the market? Have enough money managers raised enough money yet to consume the supply? 1. Economic data 2. Credit default swaps 3. What will Warsh present next week during FOMC? Will he be dovish? How will he begin his tenure when the bond vigilantes are signaling they want rate hikes? For god sakes if you are going to buy puts, at least know what tf you are doing.

mneymaker

Oil drilling and bears still think tomorrow is WW3 Deal imminent in 36 hours this was a scheduled responsive show off attack

P1xelEnthusiast

Every war we have been in since WW2 has been "completely fucking stupid" at worst or "very highly regarded" at best. We need to stop being world police.

MeneerDeAdviseur

WW up 85% and somehow feeling more bullish than at $10. My diversification strategy is owning WW on multiple exchanges

Visible_Ad_2271

What bubble are you talking about ? The META 18x forward p/e ? Or maybe the GOOGL 25x forward pe ? Or even the MSFT 23 forward pe ? Perhaps the 23x NVDA forward pe ? If this is a bubble at all time low valuations with some of the most insane growth we‘ve ever witnessed then the market should‘ve crashed every year since WW2.

gjbaca17

Basically since 1948 (78 years), but we can round in USA involvement in WW2 so the math checks out.

Liquidate-Me-Daddy

Musk becomes the world’s first trillionaire A UFC fight occurs at the leaders behest WW3 becomes solidified Buckle up buttercup, it’s about to get wild

MeneerDeAdviseur

My WW verage $9.80. Market says $17.19. My move tomorrow? Continue doing absolutely nothing.

lechimpanzeu

More like WW3 am I right... I'll go now

Sensitive_Pilot3689

You must not be positioned properly for WW3 🥸

CraftyAlternative565

WW3 underway

WordsHappenedHere

Did you know US markets doubled during WW 2. People were routinely doing nuclear bomb drills at home and at school. People were generally terrified one could hjt anytime. Tens of thousands died. And markets still doubled.

AdCritical5383

As is WW3 and the eventual heat death of the universe. 🥺

Separate_Fold5168

But it's also good for my NVO shares right? Please god tell me the stress of WW3 means more fatties needing help

skychief99

WW3 unfolding right now. Its early though, like the top of the third inning.

notgalgon

yup those 2022 h100s are clearly being thrown on streets for scrap metal prices. Way way way too old to do anything remotely useful. [(Prices rise for H100 Compute)](https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/nvidia-says-h100-gpu-prices-195641894.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAH4GqPpmE3VmmQXnU1cBL-fK2JPKvOShmk_08aEW8BrM_x7btYewO_paont6UK-aQ_kBaeR8WW1d0MCdTegGYUTVDUMp_o9euFLRCH4uVGLrPHqVAEy1CxVbjMpK1zYqYDR1LAGQFfFmurVqjx05qpQQpA4HUjXn2EBvUVoG1KV6)

BarRepresentative653

If you always start with the assumption that the market will go up, you will be right more often than not. Take that with a grain of salt as pdf in chief is unpredictable and could announce WW3 with Japan.

EmergencyFair6786

Wealthy nations post WW2 is the only historical example of not working for multiple decades and living off of either pensions or some other safety net. It simply didn't exist before now. 

MeneerDeAdviseur

WW: -2% on the week, +66% from my $9.80 average. Still holding every share

KayMS_

Crazy how WW3 started in 2022…

AdAlternative7148

Absolutely. OPs analysis is about 2 years behind the curve. Already the rate of infrastructure spending is only eclipsed by two events over the past 150 years - WW2 and the railroad boom. Professional analysts would lose their jobs if they somehow overlooked it.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

This is so insane, WW3 one year away with Taiwan, 🥭 already wasting all our money and arsenal on Iran, and the Knicks might actually win the finals. So many things we all never saw coming

BoldestKobold

Most sanctions are targeted at specific people / companies / government action. Current sanctions on Russian and Belorussians are not for every single person of that citizenry, but more specific oligarchs and their supporting folks. While there are past examples (someone else mentioned the treatment of the Japanese during WW2, which was... yeah, not our best time in the US. See also, *Korematsu*) of broader restrictions, most US sanctions have not applied to all individuals from a specific country. If anything, the bigger restrictions have come from THOSE countries. Ask a Russian or Chinese national how hard it is to invest in foreign stocks. Broadly speaking, unless your cousin is closely related to a likely enemy state, terrorist group, or entity which supports an enemy state or terrorist group, they probably have minimal to worry about on a sanctions standpoint. This does not mean there won't be tons of hoops to jump though. That may remain true.

Sufficient-Skill9530

I disagree that oil can meaningfully drop for more than a 1-2 weeks even if Iran totally capitulates and opens Hormuz today. I also firmly believe Iran is not signing an agreement to end the conflict with the USA in a big hurry. Iran still has missiles/drones that can inflict more damage on Persian Gulf oil-producing and natural gas-producing countries. The mines Iran deployed are a type that sits at the bottom of the Straits of Hormuz and shoot up when a big ship passes over them. These are not WW2 mines. Refineries have been shut down. That is a month to restart the refineries, or longer if problems arise. Oil fields & wells have been shut down. That's 2 months to restart if no issues. Sometimes oil wells cannot be restarted. Iranian missiles & drone attacks have caused $60 billion + in oil infrastructure damage to Persian Gulf oil & natural gas producers. Some of that damage will take years to repair.  Tanker insurance rates will stay very high for a long time for Persian Gulf fossil fuels transit. Tankers sitting for months in the gulf are now covered with jellyfish and barnacles and need scraping and servicing to be operable.  Emergency oil backup is being depleted really fast. The only countries that had full capacity emergency oil reserves were China & Japan. The US strategic reserve was at 58%.    Where is this huge supply of oil and natural gas going to come from? Ukraine has been systematically hitting Russian oil infrastructure. The US Permian Basin does not have the capacity it once had. Notice that the drill rig count in the US is not increasing and the production from the Persian Gulf countries will be slow to start.  If the conflict ended tomorrow, there would be an exit of around 600 oil and natural gas tankers from the Persian Gulf, but it takes time for tankers to deliver oil. Tankers move at about the speed of a bicycle. The Houthis have still shut down the Suez Canal. That means the long route for tankers around Africa. There is a reason why some countries' governments have told workers to work from home. All airlines are cutting flights.  Europe will be bringing in natural gas  from Canada and is willing to pay the cost of transit through the Panama Canal. Now is when Europe rebuilds its natural gas inventories for the winter.  Major oil companies and the petrochemical industries have their own backup emergency supplies. Then there is the working inventory that oil processors require. Pipeline oil, oil tank supply, etc. They have been using some of that backup and will have to rebuild those reserves. Those in the know, like Eric Nuttall, Rory Johnston and Jeff Currie are trying to ring alarm bells and no one is paying attention.

pinkerton_gov

Never seen a more peaceful ceasefire since WW1

CHENWizard

Ok bud that’s a real nice analysis and all, but your base assumption that the Fed will keep the status quo now that Warsh is in charge is flawed imo. His goal is to deal with the US debt problem and it seems likely that he’s going to 1. Reduce the Fed balance sheet which would cause interest rates to rise buuuuuuttt… 2. Warsh will cut rates to balance. This will allow for inflation to outgrow the US debt problem (just like post WW eleven). But that’s just a dipshit’s opinion…

Ok-Grapefruit2910

Leverage leads to margerine. Looks like WW3 back on the books. Taco or Netanyahu need assassinated.

Bigbagholdr

Did WW3 start?

RiPFrozone

Yes anything happening to Taiwan would be catastrophic and an invasion would cause WW3, but I hope you know 40% of generic drugs to the US come from India and is home to the largest amount of FDA approved manufacturing plants outside of America. They are also a major global supplier for active pharmaceutical ingredients. As for the tech sector, a lot of companies that rely on their outsourced work would be hit. Not saying it would cause a major impact like Taiwan, but there is more nuance than what you might have imagined. There is still impact.

MeneerDeAdviseur

WW: +7% on Thursday, -2% on the week, +76% from my $9.80 average. Still 100% in

jahdyudnwl

The Koreans couldn’t do it. The Europoors tried to kill it. Americans saving the semis like it’s WW2

92_Charlie

Why bother? The energy market of the (post WW3) future is going to be dried animal dung.

rithsleeper

I meant for long term stability. Just like the bomb on Hiroshima put an end to WW2 vs dragging it out for who knows how long.

Successful_Car1670

It was historical 9 week run in the middle of WW3 smh

LostMallDoll

mfs still processing the fact that WW3 is DEFINITELY HAPPENING

KnickersTwisted

I think it's more that most Americans who had family in WW2 feel that we should protect the Jewish people, not realizing what Israel's policies were really about. I'm Gen X, and I had to learn that too.

VeterinarianIll4796

Another ceasefire... Israel and Lebanon... for what it's worth [https://x.com/WW3\_Monitor/status/2062298789554028942](https://x.com/WW3_Monitor/status/2062298789554028942)

MeneerDeAdviseur

WW stock went from panic mode to green in less than few hours. Still 100% WW

MeneerDeAdviseur

A 7% intraday drop that gets bought back is not the worst thing in the world. Still 100% WW

No_Location376

I'd like to think that would fail considering we didn't even do that during WW2, but who knows. I can say that shit is going to get real as soon as the reserves start drying up. All these delusional psychos are going to get ripped from their AI fantasy real quick

MeneerDeAdviseur

WW down 5.7% today, but still up roughly 50% from where it was trading just a few weeks ago. I'm still 100% in

aDonkeyWithACarrot

History lesson: in WW2 Germans were using amphetamines while buying calls and driving a tank through Paris

shryke12

Yes financial repression post WW2 style.

hallett21

Hear me out. Podium dimly lit. 🥭 comes out wearing a fire 3 piece suit. He just starts rapping love the way you lie. Axios is live streaming with subtitles saying we’ve won WW3, 4 and 5. Tom cruise flys a F14 over while Kenny loggins jams on a guitar. That’s the propaganda we need right now.

isukforfree

Oil shock is priced in. Same with tariffs and WW3

GemmyBoy999

Europe survived WW2, where entire cities was razed to the ground, most industries destroyed and entire countries people having to flee, but they still recovered in just a few decades.

ThinkingOfTheOldDays

I'm up 479,179% on inherited IBM shares from WW2 era.  Thanks pappy. ☝️

goesey

Next president will be born before WW2 somehow

Due-Chipmunk-1335

WW3 will officially start on June 7, 2026. or 6/7/2026

LowBread9264

They’ll get bombed until they signed the treaty, just like Germany and Japan at the end of WW2.

Sufficient_Habit5091

Facts. I went heavy into cash leading up to the Iran dip. Now I am holding giant piles of money, thumb up my arse and no idea how to get back in. It's soul crushing. Last hope is not so much WW3 but whether Warsh was lying about reforming Fed and shrinking balance sheet, inflation being a monetary phenomena etc. If he's corrupt and full of it, f'it I'm full porting and going leveraged bull. It's terrible but I'll deal with whatever happens later, might as well ride with you guys and when it all collapses it's every man for himself.

wowthisislong

we could start WW3, close the borders completely, and dump a billion barrels of oil into the ocean and markets would still find a way to be green at the end of the week

Comfortable-Gap-9775

holy did WW3 just get announced or somethin?

ReasonableBrother448

Oil consumption does not get reduced. It can flatline and i would argue this comes out simply from arbitrage, magical hand of mr. market. Markets balance the energy sources over long periods. When oil prices rise, electricity prices from solar panel sources rise. I am unaware of any mechanism which would make oil redundant. It would require humankind to reduce total energy consumption and in a constructive way too. That is a pipe dream. If we get say, WW3 it will reduce energy consumption on global scale, but what is left will be the simplified sources like coal and oil. All others will be wiped out from complexity sake.