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Educational_Word_895

I don't believe the relations will reset just because there is a new administration. The damage goes way beyond the current administration's term. They managed to utterly destroy everything the US has built since WW2. Sure, there will be another president, but they will be fighting an uphill battle just mitigating the fallout. Repairing the damage to institutions will take a lot if time and effort, and whats left is mkre fragile to the next authoritarian attack, which I believe is almost guaranteed to come. There are far more capable Trumps, bestowed with the gift of actual strategic thinking coming our way. I sincerely hope that I am wrong and this is some kind of fluke, but I don't believe things will default back. There is going to be back and forth, but the structural trend suggests that the US is heading for authoritarianism over the long-term. That is not a development exclusive to the US, is is happening all over the West. The US is just exceptionally stark.

heybobson

Seeing a bunch of these admin officials either drunk or high reminds me of high ranking Germans in WW2, and how they needed to stay high on drugs in order to carry out their leader’s insane wishes.

Noble_Bastard

Are bers trying the same old bullshit as every weekend about the imminent black Monday upcoming, and WW3 again?

rukasteam

There's probably hard liners in Iran just like in WW2 Japan that do not want to budge on the strait and uranium.

Opposite_Day_9771

I've been searching for an alternative scenario. The only thing I came up with is that the IRGC gives up and there's a regime change. History states air only campaign has never caused regime change. Do you realize how big Iran is? Eastern Iran hasn't even been hit yet. You don't need to be by the shores ala WW2 style to hit ships. Drones and missiles can hit them 100 miles away. Imagine someone invading the US. That's a lot of land to cover.

Iratewilly34

Trump and his cronies are the only ones who benefited from the tariffs. I bet he shares info to make them richer since having rich and powerful people in your pocket pays off. I'm sure trump himself illegally is making money from the tariffs amongst other illegal activities. Hes not to be trusted, every word is a fucking lie and we are supposed to trust this man to lead a nation of 350m people?!?! Nevermind now hes using the military to attack an oil rich nation. He even said he wants their oil the dirty bastard. We also know Trump knew the Iran war could last years. Im sure hes looking for a loophole so he can start WW3 just to try and pull a Roosevelt and get a 3rd term unopposed just like a tyrant would. I bet Xanax and every other anti anxiety medications prescriptions have gone up 90% because they fear Trump is biting off more than he knows what to do with. In fact he doesnt know how to be a president,in fact he stopped acting like he knows and just does what he wants to do. The rest of us will suffer from his consequences while he moves to Russia to hang with his buddy putin.

DriftWoodBarrel

Bol so fuk they don't even know it yet. Everyone is talking about the straight, but there's also the fact right after the US lifted sanctions Ukraine immediately targeted Russian oil refineries. WW3 is still on the table.

achilliesFriend

Its WW3 because its arabic war

regaltax

When’s WW3 moving to a 4 day workweek?

Crazy_Donkies

Never forget bears predicted economic disaster from the following: Venezuela. Cuba. Greenland. WW3. NATO issues. Yen carry trade unwind. South Korea deleveraging. Empty shelves.  Empty ports. China crushing us. India crushing us. EU crushing us. AI bubble. Depreciation scams. Overvalued tech like dotcom. Liberation day recovery is fake. No one is trading Mangos tweets anymore.  Michael McBurry. Data centers are going to zero. Bond yields. Inversions. Government debt. Individual debt. Debt funds and bank runs. Warned banks last week would report disastrous earnings and we should short the banking funds.  Precious metal shortages.  Recovery from liberation day is fake. ICE deportations are going to crush labor leading to empty shelves. Home prices to collapse. Skyrocketing unemployment.  PPI CPI  Dollar devaluation. Oracle and CRWV killing the market by going to zero. ----- Today is what now?  Different?   Fuck big orange and buy the fucking dip.

BoringRedHorse

Did you know that the prisoners in German WW2 concentration camps were medically experimented on? What's the big gotcha there? That was a social assist for public healthcare, was it not? /s

Gom_KBull

*\*Spirals into WW3\** It's going to be ☝ a fantastic war 👐 Probably the greatest 🖐war ever in history ☝️ Everybody☝ is already saying "oh mister prezident, 👐 you created such a beautiful war." 👐 And I ☝ say "yes, its the biggest and 🖐 you're welcome." because Im so nice. ☝

Andrew_Higginbottom

"During the Vietnam war, America dropped more than the combined total of all bombs dropped during WW2 onto Vietnam. The Vietnamese did not surrender to the Americans.  During the Korean war, America launched a terror bombing campaign against the North Koreans. America was able to push them back out of South Korea before China intervened. Technically we are still at war with North Korea. Our terror bombing campaign only strengthened their resolve.  During world war II, Germany had every major city bombed extensively. That did not cause them to surrender. They only surrendered after the Soviets had taken their Capital. " Has nothing to do with my counter statement to your statement of bombing creates radicalization. "Most people don't care what type of government they live under." Now your talking bullshit, real hot steaming bullshit.

Master-Monk-8690

During the Vietnam war, America dropped more than the combined total of all bombs dropped during WW2 onto Vietnam. The Vietnamese did not surrender to the Americans.  During the Korean war, America launched a terror bombing campaign against the North Koreans. America was able to push them back out of South Korea before China intervened. Technically we are still at war with North Korea. Our terror bombing campaign only strengthened their resolve.  During world war II, Germany had every major city bombed extensively. That did not cause them to surrender. They only surrendered after the Soviets had taken their Capital.  Iran's government isn't the greatest. But they have provided their citizenship a relatively stable and healthy life. Most people don't care what type of government they live under. They just want to live a good life. Repressive regimes only brutally repress the minorities in their respective countries. The minorities that they repress do not have the strength to topple their government. They already hated the government before America started bombing them. They didn't have the strength to topple their government then and they don't have the strength now. America could turn Iran into a bowl of ashes, and the minorities that are oppressed in that country would still have difficulty gaining control over the ashes.  Terror bombing historically does not work. Sure, there might be one or two exceptions to the rule. But there are always exceptions to rules. 

Sovetcki

I bought 5 4/21 695p... Let's hope for WW3 boys

Revelati123

This market would rip on WW3, probably 2x on news of a planet killer asteroid heading this way. Whole planet just decided "Well fuck it, if we all gonna die may as well die rich!"

decollimate28

Look at war and death rates before and after the US entered WW2. You’re welcome!

CoolConfusion3606

Stocks go up on news events so an acceleration of events is upwards movement. Under this framework WW3 is extremely bullish with nuclear war being moreso until enough humans die causing events to slow down. At that point I reccomend dividend stocks.

chiswis

the only people having WW3 rn are the buls and the bers

Me-Regarded

Oh my gawd, I'm pretty sure you are just messing with me now. I called those huge green Mondays like three weekends in a row when 99.99% of WSB was predicting WW3. My vibe kung funis top notch

voxpopper

Must be rough to lose your life savings at a casino after the Japanese took his shins in WW2.

sentrypetal

Trump has lied thousands of times. There will be no deal with Iran. Just accept it. The US will keep the blockade in place for another month or restart bombings as it thinks that Iran is under pressure and will collapse. A month is how long before the delusional Trump and the US citizens realise that blockades do not result in regime change. The siege of Stalingrad should have proven that to anyone, humans if attacked and in fear of the homeland will resort to starvation before they budge. The Iranian people are under a significantly less brutal regime than Stalin and as far as they are concerned the US is no different from WW2 Germany or WW2 Japan. After all this bombing campaign makes Pearl Harbour look like a kids fight.

MeanCryptographer585

1. Sell a shit ton of oil futures.  2. Say strait open.  3. Profit.  4. Buy a shit ton of oil futures. 5. Threaten WW3 6. Profit.  Repeat. 

BlindBullseye_1988

Puts for Wednesday maybe Monday. There always good news Friday and then sunday WW3 about to start again, then Monday afternoon, shrek slaps us with his dong

BarryMcKockinner

A lot of Jewish people did eventually immigrate to New York, and many chose to emigrate to Israel after 1948. Jewish people and Arab Palestinians actually fought together in WW2. I imagine that the Jews expected less anti-Semitism and conflict with the independent nation of Israel. There were heavy anti immigration restrictions in the US following WW2, the Brits were facing an economic crisis, and the jews definitely couldn't and did not want to go back to Europe. I just hate when people think there's some simple solution to this where everybody lives happily ever after. It was unprecedented.

Significant_Onion_25

Back in 2007, I did something similar. However, it was timing the recovery. I swing traded DIA thinking it was going to go down again, and it didn't. However, everything else I bought I held so a good lesson was learned. There may be another strong entry point, and the flirting of WW3 might be the trigger. It can be a scary time to invest, but that's how this administration rolls.

piesown232

For real bless the media for spreading mass fear and convincing everyone we headed for WW3 took advantage of that dip

CBWorldwide

Securing profits today before the Prez announces WW3 Saturday night 😂

Weekly-Magazine2423

I’m legit unsure what type of event would prime a correction- if a global pandemic that literally keeps people from working for a year and drives mass supply shortages won’t do it, what will? WW3 (which has arguably already begun) would only boost gov spending and lift tech and industrials. As the market becomes fully financialized, actual macroeconomic conditions are increasingly irrelevant. I don’t disagree the the buck has to stop somewhere- but where? And when it happens, will it just be so apocalyptic that the market isn’t even be a concern anymore?

Humble_Code_6501

So... WW3 cancelled i guess

butthead4206969

Calls on WW3

psioniclizard

I can watch on the BBC the number of ships getting through or being stopped. I never said they weren't stopping anyone. But outside of America no one is saying it seems particular effective yet from what I am seeing. I really don't think those articles prove what you think they do. China are basically saying "if you stop our ships it could lead to problems" and Trump appears to have backed down on that after saying how him and Xi are best buddies or whatever. 13 ships is great but at least 20 got through from what I was seeing so not even half. But my main point is Iran is more set up to deal with economic hardship than the US. As soon as gas prices go up in the US Trump TACO's out because that is the main thing the US cares about. If/when there economy contractions in America, you think the country will just grin and bear it? On the flip side, what do Iran actual gain from a deal unless they can get something they didn't have already and some grantee Trump won't just start bombing them again in 6 months when he gets bored? The US have already proven they can't actually move their navy too close to the shore and just bombing people doesn't actually work (but that was understood since WW2 by most people). So instead they will resort to be a bit of old skool piracy. This is not because I think Iran are in a strong position, but the current regime knows if they back down too much they will likely be overthrown anyway by more extreme groups and they country has literally been planning for this war for 40 years. If Trump really had Iran against a wall he wouldn't be looking for a deal. Which goes back to one of the oldest truths about war, you rarely look to negation on somewhat even terms if you are winning the war.

skilliard7

This is pretty stupid. Unlike WW2, the engineering, tolerances, and processes behind modern weapons are far too complex for manufacturers of most consumer products to viably produce with available machinery.

DarkR124

> Trump admin starts approaching auto manufacturers to produce weapons like WW2 Time to get some F calls boys.

-CaduceusRex

That's fair. It's always a struggle to get quality information out once you see momentum coming in. I can literally watch them move in real time while I'm trying to skim through 10-K's and pull charts. It makes me understand why some people just say "WW." But this has further to go IMO and it's given me dips to levels I feel comfortable adding so I feel like this went up at a favorable time. You're right though, on the few setups I decide to actually post about I try to speed-DD and get them out as soon as possible. Double-edged sword though for sure.

ChristianM97

Did WW3 start?

Visinvictus

Sure, I just think a lot of people haven't seen an actual bear market and don't understand that the "market always goes up" is really more of a long term thing. Also I think a lot of people don't understand that markets going up has been due in large part to government policies, America's economic dominance post WW2, and well run institutions. In many countries where corruption, inefficiency, or bad policies take over the stock market is stagnant or negative for long periods of time and returns to investors are awful.

Standard-Top-5942

I think people don't realize that the mag7 isn't tied to the US economy. Not only that it's not even tied to the US and operates more internationally than domestically. So US politics won't upend it. WW3 will but Trump is so obviously not into that.

CC_dispenser

Im going WW3, hard to type roman numerals, plus we have to think do we want it to be WW4 or WWIV which doesnt look right and could be confused with an IV (the one you take to cure a hangover)

Paul_Robert_

So, would it be WWIII or WW3? Asking for a friend.

ShadowverseMatt

OP you are being naive. 1792 to 1843 was one long bear market with the largest 100 stocks ending 66.8% lower. You’re cherry picking the post WW2 era, a period of global US dominance. The returns during this time are great- but the problem is what happens when the US is inevitably no longer on top and begins to lose its dominance in the global economy?

GuyFieriFrostedTips

Even as WW3 is not ruled out haha

Dismal_Conflict7922

Mango asked major car companies to build weapons like they did during WW1 but hey ATH and I’m not complaining I have calls way in the money

NotMe357

"JUST IN: Pentagon reportedly asks GM & Ford to begin producing weapons, reviving a WWII-era model." WW4 Baby!

xflashbackxbrd

Strait of Malacca to speed run starting WW3

WOW_SUCH_KARMA

Contrary to Reddit, WW3 is not imminent. No major economic power is interested in that.

bubblemania2020

News: WW3 is imminent. Investors: TAKE OUR MONEY 💵!!!

Phimb

This sub is weirdly quick to start jacking off over a half-week of green when Trump will tweet, "WW3 soon? :thinking_emoji:" and tank the market for the next week again.

Democrazy_

And miss out on DOW 60k? Why not DOW 90k? The market will never again be red for longer than a few weeks. WW3 will be the most bullish event we've ever seen.

rottenfence

Wow from WW3 to ATHs in two weeks 😆

TittyTriceratops

Hope yall bought on WW3 day last week! We runnin UP Spy 1000 2028

rottenfence

Y’all remember WW3?

meadowender

I think even he knows that footage of a US naval vessell, badly damaged or even sinking and 100's of sailors lost at sea or coming home in body bags would be disastrous for him. Don't get me wrong the US carriers are incredible things, the biggest and best in the world but anything that floats can be sunk. It only takes one sub to get through, one lucky torpedo strike. In WW2 the German battleship Bismark, the biggest and best in the world was crippled by British biplanes before being sunk by the Royal Navy. A torpedo hit the rudder and totally crippled it, it was dead in the water

Randointernetuser600

I can’t imagine going into WW3 with him as our leaders

DragonTacoCat

I mean, the US hasn't actually won a war since WW2 soooooooooooooo......

Dad_Bot

who would thought buying puts at ATH in the middle of WW3 would've been a bad idea

BGMilan

But what about WW3

Thebaxxxx

Tom fat cock lees' theory about market signals and war is actually insanely genuis. WW2 was some real shit and bols got lucky thanks to a stout russian hold at stalingrad. Meanwhile, this war had only a few days of mild turbulance (no circuit breaker) and basically signaled "Iran is a nothingburger" in under a week when the sell off came to a screetching halt. All those years of posturing and fear surrounding iran, calling them unbeatable. Our entire lifetimes spent under the constant barrage of their cynisism towards the usa. And here we are, watching them capitulate in under 1 month. The market knew this ahead of time - which is fucking nuts. The market knew iran was going to have a crushing defeat with no impact on anyone.

ActionNorth8935

I love how we're never going to get a red day ever again. Oil at $200? well that's bullish now somehow. WW3? Great time to own stocks. Let's face it. Whatever happens, stocks are going up.

MattKozFF

The US market during WW2 bottomed in 1942. Earnings are expected to be strong. Trump put limits downside.

Then-Wealth-1481

A week ago we were talking about WW3.

Blueberryburntpie

During WW2 in occupied France, French civilians had almost no gasoline. Some of them converted their automobiles into coal fired vehicles to be able to drive.

Choice_Potato_6279

Yeah, buying always works long term no strings attached, it's by design of the shitty paper they print, you need some armageddon for it to not work, markets survived pretty quickly WW II so they can take almost everything.

pete_topkevinbottom

WW3 will start as soon as the shelves are empty from tariffs

obbie29

The world is heading for WW3. The money is flowing everywhere

audionerd1

Sentiment alone doesn't predict the market. We are quite possibly on the brink of WW3, the the deranged president of the U.S. seemingly threatening nuclear annihilation of Iran. Of course, if WW3 does break out you'll probably have bigger things to worry about than your stock portfolio.

Ok_Hand5810

LMFAO! Hello again little buddy. Have you just been stewing in anger the past week waiting for your predictions to come true? Typical retail trader. Well you will have to wait a little longer. US control over the strait is an illusion. Do you really think Trump is going to fire upon a Chinese vessel and start WW3? Several tankers bound for China have already bypassed the US "blockade". China has already made a statement that the strait is open for them, and they do not expect the US to interfere. TACO gonna TACO.

nesp12

WW3 has been priced in. Buy before the radiation cloud gets to you!

Cobainism

Trump threatening WW3 and destroying the oil market is priced in. We’re not seeing a bear market until Mag 7 can’t return on investments in AI

Cobainism

Trump threatening WW3 and destroying the oil market is priced in. We’re not seeing a bear market until Mag 7 can’t return on investments in AI

Cobainism

Trump threatening WW3 and destroying the oil market is priced in. We’re not seeing a bear market until Mag 7 can’t return on investments in AI

bobdevnul

The current situation is nothing special. Zoom out and consider all that has happened over the years of good and bad presidents and keep investing. You don't have to love or even like Trump. Just tune it out and keep investing. Concerning how unstable the world is ATM: I have been investing for over 30 years and the world has always been in a state of turmoil more often than not. Zoom out at least to the early 1900s and think about what has gone on - WW I, WW II, Korean war, Vietnam war, 45 years of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, two wars in Iraq, 20 years of war in Afghanistan. Those are just the wars. There have also been good presidents, bad presidents, and all sorts of other turmoil. How has stock investing done though all or that? It has been a very good and easy way to make good money with long term investing. Timing the market based on short term current events is a fools errand.

tolgasocial

Great so now he's trying to spread more chaos around the world so we have better chances for WW III

beedunc

WW3 started the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Study your history.

drew-gen-x

Stocks bottomed only 5 weeks after the USA entered WW2. 3 weeks was more than enough time for stocks to bottom due to this little pissing match b/w DJT and Iran.

OkLength37

I see why Warren buffet retired, Bernie Madoff? Eh Enron? Eh. 2008 almost saw the collapse of all financial markets? Eh. Oh now there’s a pandemic and we will shut down society? Eh. WW3 and trūmp is prèsident? Yaaa I’m gonna head on out.

Me-Regarded

Did ber think we'd be pushing all time highs by Tuesday? I was told WW3 and total economic collapse this week.

clouts1

Gas 5 bucks, WW3, 🌮 Jesus, and spy 700 just like we all predicted

Hubbabubbabubbagum

Neither side can claim physical victory so theyre waging a hearts and minds campaign. It's a race to see if the regime collapses faster than it can generate a rally around the flag effect or US moral lasts long enough before something serious creates a rally around the flag effect. If an aircraft carrier goes down or the marines get pushed off the beaches when they make landfall by a swarm of drones all bets are off. 50/50 moral collapse on US side or nation rallies behind the idea of glassing Iran. If the US takes out Iranian infustructure 50/50 bet weather the citizens eliminate the regime or rally behind it. Nobody wants to bet on those odds. So were meming it up in dis bish. Same thing happened in Italy in WW2. Tactical stalemate led to propaganda campaigns to compensate for each sides failure to achieve victory on the ground.

bearhunter429

#Bers collapsed faster than France during WW2 LMAO🤌

bearhunter429

#Hearts of Iron is one of the few video games that allows you to play as Germany during WW2 LMAO🤌

Traditional-Koala927

It's really not so hard to convince Chinese people to eat shit from the media so that POTUS does not end up ruining the lives of the elderly via 401k Source: Am Chinese and would not hesitate to flirt with WW3

Jebusfreek666

SPY 2% off at. Fucking clown market. Clearly nothing is prices in though. Gonna roll my puts and hope for WW3.

Master-Rip8741

Just follow what china is doing 😂 There's no way that they're gonna start WW3 over this /s

Rw1222

BUT freedom of speech also they are the ONLY good part of this dumb WW3

hv876

You know WW2 was bullish for stock market. Go ahead, China, why don’t you escort your vessels and pay toll to Iran. Archduke Ferdinand needs company.

bearhunter429

#Ber were hoping for WW3 but now they have to suffer global peace and prosperity LMAO🤌🗽🦅

tekniklee

I totally expect China to send an oil tanker right through the middle and dare them sink it so we can officially give WW3 a start date?

Ninja_Cooter

Imagine if they actually had a deal. Bers still holding onto puts praying for WW3 is just sad.

dringledrangus

I'm here to admonish when this all goes to WW3. But it won't.

CATLLM

Just woke op. WW3 over?

boyinahouse

Imagine hoping for WW3 so this kid can make $70 off some short dated puts. op needs to go outside and touch grass.

victoryboiiTCG

How does a blockade affect the movie making business? If anything, imagine all the WW3 films to be made. NFLX is a no brainer.

SubduedWeed

Bers aint returning for WW4 lmao

nonameVeo

You reddit doomsday activists are so weird. A. wtf do you mean "probably sooner," you know nothing. B. Why are you so heavily rooting for WW3. Life that bad that the only way up is to hope for WW3 so you can get drafted? Leave us out of it then wacko

purplejesus2315

War is no way near over. We’re entering WW3

No_Issue2334

Why should it? Corporate earnings estimates have expanded, not contracted. The market reacts to profits being hurt, not bad things happening. Profits have so far been largely unchanged No one is going to WW3 over Iran lol

Powerful-Ad4836

Maybe we do need WW3 🤑

mrroofuis

All you have to wait for is to have the US shoot down a Chinese vessel Or a Spanish vessel crossing the straight(triggering NATOs defense of Spain) This stupid blockade puts us closer to WW3 than ever before The blockade is so stupid. No allies have joined the US

Worried_Quarter469

We’re pumping on China entering WW3? Am i getting this rite?