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DeltaVx_

did people alive during WW2 call WW2 "WW2" or did it become "WW2" after the end of WW2. Like retrospectively.

Gom_KBull

Theres already 20+ countries involved. Some economists are already saying we are watching WW3 unfold.

TheA2Z

Most of Irans equipment is demolished. When it takes new equipment out of hiding it gets hit. I see this being ongoing. Could be years and multiple presidents. However the threat of any broad military action against the world will continue to diminish. This wont be a WW2 moment with a signing of peace treaty. Will just be a constant game of whack a mole until Iranian people end their oppression and overthrow the theocracy.

Opposite_Engine_6776

Bears were hoping for WW3. Instead, they got V V 3

jstvndrpls

I find myself hoping for WW3 because I sold everything last week. Wouldn't even make me any money, I just want to feel like I did the right thing 

ProperMod

If this really does take 20 years to build a refinery this is probably not a good idea. This really just keeps the old guard pleased. While yes it was funded by Biden’s programs and of course Trump is going to steal credit for it plus’s be all about it because of his lack of forward thinking as well as deep pockets telling him to kill renewable/green energy sources. We need to move away from a country that relies on oil like we do or it will continue to be detrimental for the Earth as well as the citizen of America. Being so reliant on oil keeps America as the top military power in the world, in bed with middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia ( Ties To 9/11), and always leaves the door open for future wars or invading counties for regime change America does not need to be invoking. America should not be going into or starting any war unless America is provoked by attack like in WW2. WW2 was constantly escalating and FDR refused to get involved until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Lastly to quote writer Thor Benson "If he actually cared about 'energy dominance,' he wouldn't be doing everything he can to cancel renewable energy projects,"

BDObadguy

Doesn't it feel like we have a bit too much info coming out all the time? Earnings reports, macroeconomic data, WW3. How about we just chill and let stocks do their thing for a bit.

aftherith

You can see the market getting numb to Iran headlines already. You are going to need a new WW3 bears or oil to skyrocket again.

Uisce-beatha

Historically that hasn't worked well for anyone and although Japan moved to a more peaceful society after WW2 I don't think the thousands of years of warrior culture is that far beneath the surface

ismebbb

I yearn for WW3 when I'm cash and world peace when I have calls

Communismo

If Iran actually deploys a meaningful amount of underwater mines the strait could be shut down for much, much longer. US naval minesweeping technology is very old. Most of it dating back to WW2, with some capabilities developed in the 80s.

SubjectAfraid

WW3 here we go…

Montyprice7206

He wasn’t lying, Zelenskyy was sitting next to WW3

TracyM45

Germany laid 80,000 naval mines in WW2. How'd that work out

ContentMusician8980

Could have placed mines on the sea floor a while back, it’s not just the old magnetic mines from the WW2.  There are mines that only arm and detonate when the read specific acoustic signatures.  Others are basically torpedoes on the seafloor and launch upwards when they detect a ship passing overhead. 

lOo_ol

Again, lack of historical knowledge. It's a shame, because you're not difficult to talk to, quite civil actually. You'd probably change some of your views, should you know a bit more. The Red Army was responsible for about 80% of all German military losses. At the time of the D-Day, the German army had 228 divisions fighting the Red Army compared to only 58 facing the Western Allies. And cherry on the cake, the Russians captured Berlin in May 1945. WW2 was overwhelmingly decided on the Eastern Front, and that's just historical facts. What you believe is just the product of pop culture and American movies, and it's not limited to Americans. Many Europeans believe the US is to thank for the end of WW2, and it's quite interesting. See [article here](https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not).

Green_Conclusion5792

*Trump after single handedly starting WW3* “By the way, they should thank me, no president would ever do what I did”

lOo_ol

Brother, you really need to dig a bit more before making claims like these. Putting aside the belief that the US single-handedly solved those conflicts, the idea that they had no interest in the outcome, or didn't cause unrest to begin with is just beyond absurd. I don't know even know where to start... the US didn't liberate Germany, despite what pop culture and American movies made you believe. The Russians did most of the work. I'm afraid you don't have that "basic understanding" on WW2, so let's not get ahead of ourselves on what followed. Everyone and their grandmother were in Yugoslavia. Japan was on the verge of capitulating, dropping not one but two nukes on the most populated cities was downright evil. And you must be fucking with me by listing Panama as an unselfish intervention. Last time Europeans were in charge, and I'm assuming you mean the British Empire and the French Empire before them, it was an absolute bloodbath. The US just took over, but make no mistake, it's the same story, different cast. But unlike you, I don't treat politics like sports, where I feel obligated to support my team no matter what, so you can drop the "you guys". All those bloodthirsty politicians can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.

Ok-Adeptness-5834

It literally just takes one counter example to prove your statement that American invades countries for oil wrong. So I listed the most obvious counter examples. There are only so many American interventions to choose from, and most of them have been a net positive: Germany, Japan, Korea, Yugoslavia, Panama, Grenada, Kuwait. Like a very basic understanding of history since WW2 makes this obvious. I get that as a European, you think no one else matters except European security and comfort. And last time the Europeans were in charge, you guys just went around the world and colonized everyone. But I think a South Korean live matter just as much as a Norwegian and am happy to see South Korea being a prosperous democracy instead of whatever North Korea ended up.

lOo_ol

Your lack of historical knowledge inevitably leads to the wrong conclusions. You look at Iran today, or other countries you mentioned, and think the US is merely liberating oppressed people out of good heart (which is crazy thinking in and by itself), because you have no idea how we got here in the first place. Here's a quick rundown that you can fact-check online if you wish, and hopefully you'll see this whole thing with a difference perspective. After WW2, Iran was made an oil field for the British, which led to poverty and protests, and the election of a PM who nationalized the oil industry. In response, the US and the British overthrew the Iranian's government in the early 1950s, for an authoritarian regime serving the West, oppressing the population and killing dissidents with a secret police (so much for liberating people). That led to the Islamic revolution of 1979, and subsequent conflicts with the West... Sucking every ounce of economic life from poor countries to serve the interest of an empire, putting in place a brutal regime that keeps people in line while stealing natural resources until they turn to radicals, so you can ultimately bomb the place isn't exactly good deed... Hate to break it to you, but the US is not the good guys in this story.

nahscopeDI

I'm not saying this is a well thought out decision. Obama's previous deal was regarded by experts as an effective solution. Trump usually pressures other nations to get what he wants, in many cases, impulsively. These are the current results of his short-sightedness, but it will get worse in the middle east. I can't be certain how wide the conflicts will spread after Iran's previous supreme leader was killed. The only reason the US didn't attack Greenland was because the NATO alliance were ready to defend their ally against us. That would've been war with half of Europe or WW3. That's just one occasion. Many of his tariffs were struck down as illegal which invited lawsuits from companies like Nintendo for example. Now we have to pay these companies back, potentially with interest depending on the ruling. That's inconvenient considering he laid off many government employees who oversaw these duties. Most of his methods are replications of previous policy from other administrations or brute force.

MGarroz

This is a shallow take. The straight of Hormuz and Iran are only symptoms of something larger.  The “rules based order” that has controlled global trade since the end of WW2 has officially ended. American hegemony and their public aversion to empire are over. The Yen carry trade is over. A cohesive European Union and NATO alliance is currently corroding. The days of a passive China seem like they may soon end as well.  There is not a single person alive today that has any clue where the markets will be next year, or 10 years from now. There’s currently too many possibilities for future timelines. We could have WW3, we could have a hawkish America enacting the Monroe doctrine across the American continents. We could have chip factories in Taiwan destroyed setting the AI and tech markets back decades. We could have none of that.  Don’t try to time this market, invest what you can afford to invest and keep some cash on hand for any potential opportunities. Nobody knows what’s going on anymore which means it’s prime time to make a fortune or loose it all, the perfect time for WSB regards. 

LongHealth

We got WW3 and Artificial Intelligence before GTA6

LongHealth

We got WW3 and Artificial Intelligence before GTA6

boris1869

WW2 mines are still found regularly

Voltthrower69

When people were saying Mango was going to start WW3 after he and his billionaire friends were all pedos they seemed a silly…but now…

SoSKnZaZa

Maybe he confused it with a WW-2.

MatterFickle3184

I'm 3rd generation military. I served during Iraq war. My father served in Vietnam. My great uncle in WW2. What's your fucking excuse?

Rare_Steak_

Even between 1942 and 1945 the US market went up and the German market only crashed after the war so yeah I guess unless its the literal end of the world, it will not be the end the world. [Cool article I found about markets during WW II](https://www.investmentoffice.com/Observations/Markets_in_History/Stock_Markets_during_the_second_World_War.html)

DisastrousCopy7361

Market past is basically completely irrelevant since the money printing during covid and the government saving the market. It is completely detached from the economy. It's mainly the hedges/mega-rich trading money amongst themselves with retail making up a small % of the market. With money printing that went on the sp500 will basically never go below 3500-4k unless there is a major shift in world powers. Even a drop to 5k would be shocking and would be likely be because of WW3.

AdamantheusEnigma

Bears hoping WW3 starts so the 300 bucks (that’s all they have to their name) in USO calls can 2x, fucking disgusting losers

F0rbiddenD0nut

If Russia uses that reasoning to attack US forces in Iran, then we can go into Ukraine and do the same thing. Let's not do that though, as it inevitably leads to WW3 and a very bad time for everyone.

I_Sniff_Uranus

The fact that a 4% sell off in SPY caused a TACO on WW3 proves that Wall Street is still in charge of literally everything lmao

Uisce-beatha

We've been involved in conflict for 220 of our 250 year history. You could say war is good for whale farts and find a correlation. WW2 was bullish for our country but the rest left the US economy in a bad spot. This situation isn't something you can just start and stop. These idiots killed the parents and wife of the new leader in Iran and he's probably a little bit pissed off about that. This isn't over yet and I have zero faith in this administration

WSB-mods-are-

We had WW3 start and end before GTA VI

Put_Er_There_Sport

Nah I get that, itd all be for show and "legalities" or whatever theyre half assed argument would be. It would however provide this administration with the firepower to go full on war mode and say Iran and every ally of them must be eliminated propelling us into WW3, as he seems to want to do

xViscount

Attrition? Lol. Lmao even. Attrition was WW1 trenches. This? Israel is going in and out as they please and causing whatever damage they want with no resistance. This comes down to 1. How far does Israel want to go? And 2. Can Iran keep their information networks alive long enough while keeping a unified front a delving into factions.

0xBorisjohnson

Imagine Netanyahu really is dead and you first heard about it on wsb in some random comment in the daily, then Israel nuke the Pyramids because they don't like muzzies, then NK nukes South Korea and China invades Taiwan and you managed to get down into your bunker just in time before WW3 kicks off, and it is all because you were shitposting in this cesspit

SubjectAfraid

WW3 is already here. 🙄

Montyprice7206

We were told WW3 would be the end of civilization Turns out it was just the end of being able to afford anything 🥺

KarmaWhoreCam

If you were in a position of power we would be in WW3 right now. This is so ignorant lol. Do you have any idea how horrific this would be? 

laukkanen

You really think he won't just say whatever he wants and claim it as the truth? Regardless what happens he'll pull out of Iran and claim "this was the biggest victory in the history of humanity. This was a bigger victory than WW2 over the Nazi's. No one has ever won like we won." He simply makes shit up and declares it the truth.

GetShorty006

Trump is preventing WW3 by getting rid of the regime that would start WW3. They killed tens of thousands of their own people. What would keep them from nuking Israel or one of their neighbors if they produce a nuclear weapon?

Thisispaartaaa

In WW2, civilian cargo ships would cross the Atlantic ocean filled with German (most powerful navy in it's day) U-boats.....today not 1 ship will cross a tiny straight, because a nation with no remaining land, navy, or sea force, told them not to......make this make sense.

BicarbonateBufferBoy

Bro we’ve lost like every war since WW2 lmao

RogerBalderer

I find it hilarious all the "experts" are parading around the youtube sphere saying this is WW3

Suspicious_Loss_84

It’s gonna be hilarious when we’re in WW3 and people will be here trying to make money off when the next nuke gets launched

Brokenandburnt

It's kinda funny that the US thinks it won WW2 solo.  Read a couple of books. Failing that there's a _plethora_ of good YouTube videos on the subject in question. You'd be quite surprised as to what the US contributions was.

razikp

People have a short memory. Remember WW1 and 2 and how now Germany are our "closest allies"

Muted-Doctor8925

WW3? Believe it or not, calls

Sudden-Smoke-8377

lol Donnie is OK with WW3 but when gas is getting 10 then we all super friends

SuperGoodRookies

“Unrestricted submarine warfare” is what dragged the US into WW2 when it wanted to stay neutral. No quicker way to turn sympathetic countries into enemies than indiscriminately sinking oil tankers.

Sasuke082594

Not even oil being ATH could keep the market down… at this rate not even “we are entering WW3” from Trump could keep the market down. In other words, BTFD and congrats if you do.

SergeantThreat

Imagine saying WW2 was over while we were still dropping nukes on Japan

Sudden-Smoke-8377

fuk last nite we were like in WW3 and now we peace?

Csbbk4

This feels like it would be similar to the Gallipoli campaign in WW1 because I’m sure Iran has been fortifying their strait for 30 years. Not to mention that it only takes one of their hundreds of cheap missiles to incapacitate a warship

idisagreeurwrong

Yes that's what I wanted. I wanted people like you to make wild hypotheticals that culminate into a world war. I would then explain why that's ridiculous and stupid. I would explain that you can hypothetical yourself into any situation and that Is a terrible basis for describing something as the start of WW3

fallingdowndizzyvr

LOL. The whole point of this little subthread is .... "I'd love to hear your logic on how this has high potential of spiralling into a global conflict of a level not seen in 80 years. " -- you You literally asked for a "hypothetical" and now you are moaning because it hasn't already happened yet... "How about we wait until that happens before saying this is the start of WW3." -- you again. So you don't want to discuss a "hypothetical" until after it happens. OK...... > If the bar is set that low it loses all meaning You just made your post that started this little subthread meaningless.

idisagreeurwrong

Regardless dude, you're predicating this all on some hypothetical of a Chinese ship being attacked. How about we wait until that happens before saying this is the start of WW3. If the bar is set that low it loses all meaning

vand3lay1ndustries

Wouldn't it be too late by then? We're still finding mines from WW2...

idisagreeurwrong

China had an interest in Venezuela too. China isn't going to war. Russia accidentally hit poland, a NATO country, and we didn't go to war. If the US accidentally hits a Chinese ship which would be highly unlikely. It would be diffused. You guys scream WW3 every couple months

Sudden-Smoke-8377

I mean kind of dig Donnie...all are fine with WW3 and all that shit...but not with 10 Dolllar gas thats fuking show stopper

neutralpoliticsbot

Never listen to the bears EVER! They were contemplating WW3 and destruction of society at night like if you keep reading this bear drivel you start to believe it too. Bears are always wrong.

Gniggins

Yea, but this news assumes we dont start WW3, it stopped a spiral that would affect normal western life too much for the burger brained to handle. Reality can still set in.

1nfinitus

Indeed but good to note: of the 20 post-WW2 conflicts, the average drop in S&P was 6% with an average recovery time of just 28 days.

SazedsSeveredWang

and karoline leavitt said Trump refused to rule out enacting the draft. Trump is a narcissist, so he will not back out of this Iran conflict. He's more likely to send in ground troops, who will get slaughtered, and then enact a draft and keep pumping in troops. He might pressure other NATO countries to send troops as well, especially once oil hits over $200 a barrel and they're all feeling the hurt. This escalation might get Russia involved, and thus WW3 begins oh god

pmurt007

Today war is over Tomorrow WW3 is still on the table repeat up until mid-terms

idisagreeurwrong

You could play that hypothetical on every single war the US has ever been involved in. Everytime the US decides to meddle on the world we can't scream WW3 it's ridiculous

idisagreeurwrong

I'm being reasonable. I'm suggesting saying this being the start of WW3 is a ridiculous notion. Nobody has responded saying how they think that happens. That's what I asked. I asked how this escalates to WW3. Your reasoning was that it could escalate. I'm not disputing that, I'm disputing the notion of WW3. You say you never mentioned ww3 but I did and you responded to me. I'm using past conflicts and thieir severity has benchmarks for calling something a world war. I'm not saying they are the same.

idisagreeurwrong

Sure you could literally say the same thing about every skirmish in history. And you honestly did. Every time the us bombs somebody people start yelling WW3

perceptive_AI

I want WW3 just so I can see young men influencers get drafted.

NazgulSandwich

I can’t possibly imagine what they could do against one whole aircraft carrier. This sounds like WW1 talk. We will sail down to gallipoli! What could the Turks possibly do against our magnificent and yuuge boats?

kal14144

World war 1 chief executive out to lunch entirely (Woodrow Wilson stroke and wife acting as president secretly). World war 2 president slowly dies secretly and VP finds out after (FDR polio death) WW3 president shits his pants to death?

JaraxxusPS4

Watching WW3 thru my iPhone

Guilty-Deer-2147

WW3 talks are going well, by the look of this pump

dMestra

WW4, 911 2.0, next 10 Ayatollah rotations are all priced in. It's all green from here

kandel88

Since you asked nicely I'll actually give you a few The entire premise is flawed because the Allies knew about and followed the German retreat (Operation Albrich) for weeks, not some "oh shit they left lol" moment. The Allies had made their own preparations to advance as close as possible behind the Germans as they retreated to keep up pressure. It wasn't unplanned or unexpected. There's literally no reason for a battalion to advance alone without support or rearguard to maintain communications. Advances were always made with supporting elements so the idea a whole battalion just got excited and ran ahead is fucking stupid. Trench communication didn't even use runners unless there was no other option because they were unreliable compared to other methods. Most comms were done with telegraph, radio, signal flare, and pigeons and even then at least 3 other "runner pairs" would have been sent. The number and carelessness of both the British advance and German rearguard is incredible. Like there's a (lone) sniper in this town who waits until Major/Captain/whatever Mark Strong is gone before opening up on a random nothing British soldier instead of an actual target then the British column moves in daylight and with no cover across enemy country during and advance (also apparently alone). Then the Germans are literally just wandering around this burning town instead of acting as a rearguard. Like the enemy is advancing as their own forces retreat and the Germans in Ecoust literally don't give a fuck. That's weird. The attack by Benedict Cumrag: The Worst Fucking Part. This grand attack scene fucking sucks. So there's a battalion racing ahead alone, fine. That battalion is somehow commanded by drunk children, fine. Why the fuck is this dipshit attacking a fortified position with no support again, no artillery, no reconaissance, and seemingly no real plan since a battalion would never be able to hold any position they've taken, and like the movie says, they're all fucking alone anyway so who is holding their OG position and who will relieve them in their old position, oh wait fucking nobody? Fuck yeah, send em over the top in a moronic mass wave instead of in sections utilizing cover like real attacks did. Not to mention, Cumrag is a Colonel so who the fuck told him to attack anyway? Large operations were planned faaaaar above his level and he oughta be shot for even launching that attack even if it was successful. Like I said the first time, very well made and acted movie, I genuinely like it and have watched it multiple times. It has a cool vibe and the emotion is real. I literally never said the movie wasn't good, just that it doesn't make sense as the gritty, realistic portrayal of WW1 it really wants to be because it gets so much wrong militarily and even historically. I could keep going and going but I won't because WSB retards aren't worth the effort. I'll just ramble to my wife's boyfriend like usual. Super nice guy, always lies down and closes his eyes to listen to me better.

valuevestor1

Let WW3 begin!

New_Friend4023

Bols: jUst bUy the DiP 🤣🤣 This is WW3 regards

AngryGranny1992

pretty much. Thats why korean stocks, rams, ssd's etc will be dropping cause production will halt. Semiconductors will also be hit cause of Taiwan. Orange man and his admin have IQ's in the double digits and honestly, the thing i'm most scared of is that they nuke iran to save face and end it quickly. if that happens we're 100% in a WW3 situation.

Concerned_Fanboy

we already got WW2 like footage of a submarine blowing up a frigate like quit being greedy

Concerned_Fanboy

Middle east spiral into WW3 will continue. This week worse than the last. Next week worse than that.

New_Friend4023

1 week into WW3. Start keeping a journal, kids might study you in class one day

ashbringerer

As long as he listens to Netanyahu, then until WW3.

Impossible_Ad_9560

There are tons of predictions with this exact outcome. Crazy crazy stuff, sadly the us is no longer a super power and we haven’t been for sometime. We just stood behind the illusion of the WW2 victory. The world is about to change.

BenisDDD69

Beaten in WW2, hence them being x axis

Possible_Cheek_4114

Because most ppl on here are day trading for mc ds 

BitterEstimate

WW3 is bullish guys buy the dip before the nukes go off.

Canadian_Border_Czar

WW3 pending.  Rampant fascism. Mass layoffs/sky rocketing unemployment You: BuY tHe DiP gUyS!!!!111one At what point do the gains become blood money? At what point are you manufacturing weapons for the bad guys simply because they pay too?  We're all so incredibly fucked. Calls on doomsday bunkers and soylent. 

mneymaker

lmao we all gonna need a handful/mouthful of new skills when WW3 kicks in harder

marktwin11

If $150 broken then we see WW3.

IncomingAxofKindness

That's be a stupid fucking move right before WW3. They're gonna want that oil later for the Fury Road.

ThatMsAnthrope

Why did you post this? I was ready to start buying given all the doomer WW3 posts

JD0x0

I mean, it only took 2 bombs to stop the Japanese Empire when people thought there were going to be boots on the ground for years in WW2. If you're a high-ranking member of the regime, chances are you're just as vulnerable to bombs as other human beings. US and Israel's intelligence is pretty insane, if they want someone, they'll find them. They might essentially have the same thing that happened to Hamas and Hezbollah, where they basically get completely neutered by precises attacks. I mean, yeah, those groups still exist, but they're extremely diminished compared to when they had full power and that might be enough to encourage groups to overthrow the regime when they're on their backfoot.

Twin_Towers_911

Oil prices are high because the vanquished refuse to unconditionally surrender. People should know when they are conquered. Oil prices will fall rapidly once Iran accepts President Trump's merciful offer of unconditional surrender. Iran was going to attack first, if Trump didn't do it. Trump just prevented Nuclear WW3 and will bring everlasting peace, prosperity, and democracy to the Middle East. So much winning, America will easily prevail. The victory will be Biblical. Trump didn't start this war, he's finishing it. Trump needs to be involved in selecting the next leader of Iran. The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.

ThePapaSauce

It’s not “tensions” in the Middle East, it’s actual, full-on war. We conducted a decapitation strike on a radical state of 92 million people who have been preparing for a war with the west and the gulf states for decades. We are witnessing the first days of WW3, it’s just not obvious yet. Give it a few weeks…

Valkorion335786

Imagine if WSB got deployed for WW3 but we still had our emojis

Ok_Field_5701

They hated him for he spoke the truth. Everyone who talks about “living through historical events” is a whiny fuckin baby. Try WW1 or WW2 out on for size, or maybe The Great Depression. Pussies.

idlefritz

People with $70k sitting around to capitalize on WW3 are going to get eaten first in the post apocalyptic hellscape.

Diamond-Solo

Next time we need to buy oil before WW3 starts