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TailRudder

They are hoarding oil for WW3

Top-Meaning2626

[WW?](https://x.com/i/status/2039175532512698680)

TernTheNumbers

https://xcancel.com/WW3_Monitor/status/2039170090348732689#m

Moist-Ninja-6338

Would you have believed the Germans in WW2?

ozz3121

Trump's announcement tomorrow will be the announcement of the first usage of nukes on another nation since WW2. We will be launching a nuke every time he says "nuke".

Amazing_Plankton744

Starting WW3 on Easter does fit these peeps' motives. By peeps I mean the pastel decimators of teef.

cheerfulwish

People are clueless. If the US were to the modern version of what bombing looked like in WW2, they would give a 1 week warning for people to evacuate a city before flying 50 b52s over head and carpet bombing an area, completely leveling everything. I’m happy wars are no longer fought like that (sucks they are fought at all) but people thinking there is no escalation possible are as clueless as those who listen to Trump.

No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

Cause the US wasn't really impacted during WW2. American manufacturing massively benefitted in fact.

WordsHappenedHere

Fun fact. The stock market doubled during WW2. This ain’t even close to WW3 bro. So maybe we wont quite double then?

WordsHappenedHere

Stock market doubled during WW2.

Puzzleheaded-Mix6359

Both countries are ruining there own economies with this war. No one wants to side with America, which is the number 1 thing they had going for them as a country since WW2, and oil from Iran will become too expensive which will in turn force countries to become for self reliant outside of Iran. I know here in Australia we are already looking at sourcing our own oil from Queensland and South Australia

Icy-Sheepherder-7595

When the words involve the potential for WW3 yea that sort of thing is what makes and breaks the stock market. Idk what the point of your comment is.

DesticularDorsion

Where are they going to stage? Kuwait? UAE? You don't understand the logistical impossibility of this. Form of power to what? Not be able to medivac or resupply? The country is 3x Iraq and almost entirely mountains. We can't get boats in, and there is 24/7 ISR. I'm sure the IRGC is shaking in their boots at the idea of a bunch of stranded Americans. This isn't WW2. 

Budget-Ocelots

Nothing. The pandora box is already opened after WW2.

Beginning-Town-4979

I'm just making a joke about the military claiming to be on Holiday. Also, try not assuming that everyone who makes jokes about your France's performance in WW2 is pro-War or uneducated. This is social media, not a discussion at the College of War.

CoC_Axis_of_Evil

Aren't we already past the point of no return with the Petro dollar? Unless they take the oil physically, there is no leverage over other countries to use the dollar. Also, those countries can eventually pull the WW2 Russia strategy of scorched earth.

Gom_KBull

1000 white women from the US? Do you WANT A WW3?!

Regular_Hawk8513

Smells like WW3

Hellhooker

the jokes mostly comes from the Iraq war, not really WW2. Nobody who actually fought in WW2 think it was funny. Also nobody who understands WW2 would joke about how the countries involved in WW1 had it. Having the guts to joke on surrending a nation who fought the WW1 trenches conflicts is so out of touch...

Hellhooker

It's about the Iraq war when France called Bush on his bullshit. the WW2 argument is laughable, especially when it comes from americans who only decided to engage in the war to counter the russians and did it 3 years after everyone fought I leaved a bad taste in the mouth considering the USA and France are the oldest allies and the USA are a country thanks to France help against the UK. It's a bit funny though to get hated on something we were 100% right

Mist_Rising

>Nobody wanted to "sign-up" to fight nazis, Your overrevising history to correct revision. Plenty of people signed up willingly to fight, they always have and always will. The Marine Corp has never drafted anyone, and neither has the 82nd or 101st had draftees. Furthermore this is common across nations, because the early war is also romanticized out and signing up needs to happen fast or you'll miss out! [Here are folks lined up to sign up](https://49fe30bb3aa7406c16dc-5c968119d095dc32d807923c59347cc2.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/2012.019.338_1.jpg) And to prove it's not just one nation [this is Munich in WW1 celebrating the start of the war](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-outbreak-of-war-in-munich-1914-122455054.html) and at least one of these Germans would sign up willingly. Alas that he did not die in the fields of Flanders. If you know, you know. What does happen is that the war proves fatal to life, the glamour of the war wears off and the war still goes on. That's when the draft kicks in. >Nobody wanted to fight the Gulf War. All three Gulf wars as well as Afghanistan were fought entirely by volunteers. The US doesn't have the draft by that point. Furthermore, the massive increase the US military saw in sign ups for Afghanistan was huge. 9/11 shocked the nation and the citizens wanted to strike back, even joining to be part of the hammer that would strike. While the sign ups receded over the years, the military was still and is still, volunteer only in the US. >Nobody wanted to fight in Ukraine. The number of people who went to Ukraine to fight would heavily suggest otherwise. I don't have much love for JD Vance's brother's politics, but the man willingly went to Ukraine to fight. No question there.

raiodocachopo

That's WW3. The oil shall never be priced in Yuan, that's the ultimate rule for America.

Mist_Rising

>Nobody wanted to "sign-up" to fight nazis, Your overrevising history to correct revision. Plenty of people signed up willingly to fight, they always have and always will. The Marine Corp has never drafted anyone, and neither has the 82nd or 101st had draftees. Furthermore this is common across nations, because the early war is also romanticized out and signing up needs to happen fast or you'll miss out! [Here are folks lined up to sign up](https://49fe30bb3aa7406c16dc-5c968119d095dc32d807923c59347cc2.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/2012.019.338_1.jpg) And to prove it's not just one nation [this is Munich in WW1 celebrating the start of the war](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-outbreak-of-war-in-munich-1914-122455054.html) and at least one of these Germans would sign up willingly. Alas that he did not die in the fields of Flanders. If you know, you know. What does happen is that the war proves fatal to life, the glamour of the war wears off and the war still goes on. That's when the draft kicks in.

The_BakedCrusader

How did American lives fight for Italian peoples freedom during WW2? Italy fought with the Germans.

Successful-Bobcat701

Germany did far worse in WW2, but I've forgiven them.

ChronicBuzz187

>Now we can talk about epstein ? How about another regime change instead? Or maybe even two... or WW3? At this pace, he's gonna run out of diversions until 2028, isn't he?

Own-Emphasis5589

Understand history. If it weren't for Europe, France in particular, the U.S. would be singing "God Save the King" before soccer and cricket matches. The French not only supplied military expertise and weaponry during the American Revolution, the French navy interrupted and disrupted British ships in the eastern Atlantic, impeding the Brits from re-supplying its troops in America. The European countries of France, Spain, Netherlands, and Sweden all recognizing American independence put pressure on Britain to end the war and sign the Treaty of Paris. So the United States owes much of its own existence to Western Europe. During WW2, the tide had already turned and the Germans were beginning to lose the war before the United States entered. Operation Barbarossa began in June 1941, and by the fall of 1941, the Germans had begun sustaining heavy and unsustainable losses. By the time the U.S. entered in December 1941, Germany was already losing. The entry of the U.S. sped up the end of the war, but Germany was already on its way to a loss by the time the U.S. entered. Regarding the last 80 years, remember that the NATO countries did not start reducing their militaries until the end of the Cold War in the 1990s. For most of the Cold War, the European powers were fully invested in their defense. On top of that, having a stable and secure Europe gave the United States tremendous economic advantages by having reliable and secure trading partners with strong economies in their own right. So it was very much in the interest of the United States to be aligned with western Europe. Even with the European NATO countries reducing their budgets over the past 30 years, the combined European NATO budgets are still more than three times the size of the Russian military budget. Additionally Western European NATO independently posses its own nuclear arsenals as a deterrent against Russian aggression. Western Europe is not dependent on the United States for its defense. It helps, no doubt, but Wester Europe is not exactly a sitting duck without the United States.

BagRight1007

Yes, I guess US has protected Germany from... Germany Or France felt so protected they had to leave NATO NATO was a tool created by the US exactly so Europe won't arm again after WW2. It WAS the sensible choice and a good thing, don't get me wrong. But Europe has the shitty army it has today exactly because US wanted them to. All it took to undo 80 or so years of this was an orange pdf. Good job America Re-using this comment as it's still relevant. The baltic states would probably remain independent... just like Greenland would, right? :p Not too long, I guess. Probably a lot faster than it would take for Europe and China and Russia to get in bed, then US has another set of problems.

BagRight1007

Yes, I guess US has protected Germany from... Germany Or France felt so protected they had to leave NATO NATO was a tool created by the US exactly so Europe won't arm again after WW2. It WAS the sensible choice and a good thing, don't get me wrong. But Europe has the shitty army it has today exactly because US wanted them to. All it took to undo 80 or so years of this was an orange pdf

Redguru00

>The US never left the Cold War era. True. >It's just that Americans were under enough propaganda to believe they were always the good guys, and no counter-information to know the truth. This has honestly never been the case. The gov has implemented major historical revisionism and propaganda about WW2 which the "progressive" left has been regurgitating to younger generations for the past 10-15 years. Nobody wanted to "sign-up" to fight nazis, WW2 was the largest draft in US history. Nobody wanted to fight in Korea. Nobody wanted to fight in Vietnam. Nobody wanted to fight the Soviets and Afghanis. Nobody wanted to fight Iran and Iraq. Nobody wanted to fight the Gulf War. Nobody wanted to fight the "war on terror". Nobody wanted to fight in Ukraine. Nobody wants to fight Iran... Americans know exactly how evil this country's government and military is. Americans simply Do. Not. Care. as long as it doesn't inconvenience their personal lives. That's why the gov got rid of the draft after Vietnam. If the current president is dumb enough to reinstute conscription there will genuinely be a revolt within 15 years. Just in line with economic predictions for when the petro dollar collapses.

scipio0421

You deserve to make those jokes about you. We made them for decades on baseless "facts" that ignored the Free French state in WW2 and all the positive effects the French Resistance had on the outcome of the war in Europe.

marion85

Political status on the international stage has very little to do with morals or ethics. Its about political reliability. Miltary and economic power, and alliances, and that last bit is where the last tattered shreds of the US's status are still hanging from. The US has shown itself to be too unreliable for any of the pillars of its status with its allies to stand anymore, but the problem for them is how INTERMESHED the US is with their their economies and military defensive strategies. The has, since the end of WW2, been making itself the indispensable country so to speak with the rest of the western world by design to secure itself as a the dominant world power, which it has and all our allies would have to disentagle themsleves from us first in order to even start openly defying and denouncing us, and that takes YEARS... normally. But we've been speedrunning the death of the American empire so fast that soon they may have no choice but to cut us like a diseased limb and suffer massive political and economic damage, rather than going down the grave of empires with us.

DesticularDorsion

It is indeed WW3. War doesn't look like it did back then. There won't be million man occupations or formal declarations from legislators.

RareGuarantee3532

earning are pasts, used to expect forseable future, no one invest for the past. Currently, past earnings have less influence on forseable future than WW3 or Oil price, or shortage on commodities or the end of PaxAmericana and the return of piracy in International waters, or Taiwan falling under CCP's control, etc. So yeap, geopolitics rules global economy more than the peacetime results of tech companies

BigBoyYuyuh

Remember when countries made Germany pay for WW I? How’d that work out?

lookawayyouarefilthy

Israel’s strategy here is clear: they want to demonstrate that the U.S. is no longer an effective power player in the Middle East. Their ultimate goal is to sideline American influence and establish themselves as the primary regional hegemon. In fact, I’m 50% certain they are actively gaslighting the administration making Trump believe he’s negotiating with Iran when he’s actually being led in circles. They want the USA to fail publicly, right in front of all of us. The state of the world right now is exhausting, and frankly, all I want is to live in peace without the constant shadow of another WW.

swingworkstheoracle

WW3 would be

Working_Monitor_2076

I hope nobody is stupid enough to get involved. Otherwise we have WW3

myrdinwylt

The thing about nukes is that they're mostly used as a form of insurance. If you decide to actually use them, you've just increased the chance of getting destroyed yourself from a possibility to a near certainty. There was a perfectly fine nuclear accord which the US withdrew from in 2018 for no apparent reason. Besides, the notion that the US should get to decide who does and doesn't get to have nukes is laughable. There is indeed an argument to be made that the world would be a better place with a democratic regime change in Iran. But given the strategy the Trump regime is currently following, it's hard to believe that this is truly their intention. The track record of the US in almost every foreign war/intervention aimed at regime change since WW2 also shows they're not very likely to succeed. Think of what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. Ill-advised hubris by the orange clown is what I'm thinking.

BarbellPadawan

The US is like 0 - 15 in wars since WW2.

DrElkSnout

"WW3 Loading... 79% complete until you are drafted and forced to play the game." FIFY

happy123z

Yes.  Purposefully start WW3 with every country at once,  including our own.  Why would they do that?  🤔

lax_street

#WW3 Loading... 79% complete until you can play the game

Worried_Quarter469

Hormuz War is the WW3 expansion pack, micro transactions are the future of combat

DragonfruitIsOP

Yeah, there would’ve been no WW3 but congrats on pushing the rest of the world into global depression

fec2245

Who is WW3 being fought between?

VFRdave

It's better than dropping nukes on iran (or letting Israel nuke them) and starting WW3.

skilliard7

markets are up like 600x since WW2 started. worst case scenario is a 1970 style oil crisis, but that won't happen because the US is energy independent now, we are net exporters of oil

Pete26l96

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116321041013301744 #WW3 HAS BEGUN LOL

Fineous400

Too bad we don’t do that anymore. Not just leaders. Just had to be an officer in WW2.

CATLLM

“mOnEy iSn’T eVeRyThiNG, fOcUs oN LivINg” How the fuck do you do that when there is WW3 and bread costs $100 per loaf retard.

CATLLM

Honestly its hard to do that when we are getting WW3 and bread is gonna be $100 per loaf.

CATLLM

MMs know something- real war happening tonight. Get ready for WW3

SoCallMeDeaconBlues1

Mostly agree with your general statements, but I will also say that the forward look on financials for nVidia through end of next year and into 2028 are insane. If you have a terminal go look at it- we've been using that kind of data from Bloomberg for years and it's never led us too far astray. As long as we don't end up in some kinda WW3 scenario the guys selling the shovels for AI are gonna keep making delulu levels of profit

FabulousLanguage6216

After WW3

1098duc_w_the_termi

Honestly if WW3 were declared tomorrow, the market would rally on the removal of uncertainty.

Gniggins

WW3 is priced in, calls no matter what.

susanrez

This is a war crime and much like Germany after WW2, our entire nation will be held responsible for the death and damage he causes if he goes through with it.

pmotiveforce

We could have a meteor destroy half the US and descend into WW3 and you'd have absolute muppets in here chiming in with "bit too bearish in here."

doubleopinter

No one ever seems to go after the insurance companies, you notice that? It's the fact that these ships can't get insurance that they don't go through. Why not pressure them? I mean I know the answer. This is why America loses every war its been in since WW2. They want to bomb and kill people "over there", but as soon as there's any hardship to bear it's too much.

TheUnobservered

It works, just look at WW2. The issue is that it doesn’t work *forever*. The moment you become predictable, the opposition controls your initiative. Trump’s second terms is essential him lacking narrative control and his bluffs being face value.

InHaUse

Lol. Lmao even. That's just cope and can't ever happen. The government needs massive inflation to devalue the debt, just like post WW2. I don't get how anyone still thinks the world can get out of this debt hole without inflating it away since defaulting would be worse.

hakan_loob44

And it looks like we're done for the day short of WW3 breaking out or man go ending his 34th war of his term.

One_Talk_3410

No, the fed will print money like always and inflate asset prices and make the debt smaller just like after WW2.

soa333

SPY 700 post WW3

Worried_Quarter469

That might the start of WW3, China can’t let US blow up all of Asias oil

Worried_Quarter469

WW3 twist would be Europe entering against Israel/US to (1) prevent more refugees to Europe from Lebanon, (2) have Iran let their oil through Hormuz

netflix-ceo

Imagine not having Fifa peace prize holder as the president. If it was sleepy joe we would have been on WW6 already

tinydisaster

I had to look it up, his term as governor, just a seat on the board, ends Jan 31, 2028. So he could still shape policy for some time to come. Tillis in the senate, a member on the banking committee I think, is also planning on blocking any nominee until the litigation is over. As I recall there’s some weird scenarios that play out like the FOMC governors can vote jpow in to the FOMC, but trump can appoint Moran as Fed Chair…. Honestly it gets really weird and I don’t fully understand these things as they have never really happened in modern times. I think the last time a chair stayed on was after WW2, but they traditionally step down as both chair and governor seat at the end of the chair term. Traditionally doesn’t mean bound by law though. So nobody knows what is going to happen.

aniote

Y'all are gambling on WW3

RGrad4104

It's almost like that tiny tiny little nation is trying to force the US, single-handedly, into WW3...

timetopractice

Y'all didn't live through WW2 and it shows

ignatious__reilly

And it’s going to happen if this doesn’t de escalate. Iran is going to attack desalination plants next. And that’s going to wipe out water across the middle East. This is so scary. People think WW3 can’t happen but it sure as shit can. And Orange man said this tonight: “To be honest with you, my favourite thing is to take the oil in Iran but some stupid people back in the US say: ‘why are you doing that?’ But they’re stupid people,” he said. So we are all stupid now? Wow.

GuitRWailinNinja

Not surprising in the least. Man, fuck that nation. They’re gunning for WW3

d33p7r0ubl3

Not even WW3 would satisfy bears

IronSnatchKitty

Did you know during WW2 battle of Iwo Jima. Was the single deadliest battle for the Marines in the entire war. Our government compared taking Kharg island to that.

VancityRenaults

Vietnam is right next to China dude. If WW3 breaks out you can be sure China will be involved.

ltdanimal

OPs whole post seems incredibly ignorant and naive. We're like 3/10 on the pessimism scale.  Saying "I'm always right but just get the timing wrong" without trying to be ironic is peak WSB. Come back when the US has thousands of troops dead, the Strait is a bloodbath, and we're in the verge of WW3.  Not saying this will happen, but you need to zoom out a bit. The above is just one of a dozen other major events potentially brewing.

prestodigitarium

There will be one, in the form of high inflation/devaluing the dollar. Sustained negative real rates for a number of years like post WW2.

md_youdneverguess

So it's actually WW3 now?

No-Phrase-4692

WW4 sticks and stones - WY calls

FloppyButtholeJelly

WW4

GrandKnew

🥭 "hey let's start WW3"

Consistent_Chart_664

trying to leverage Iran to open up the Strait by trying to take over Kharg island is the most retarded plan Kegseth and Orange could come up with, so of course it’s going to happen. Bombs, equities, and bodies are all going to HIT THE FLOOR once the jihadi terrorists in charge unleash strikes against all the existing oil infrastructure in the gulf because they want things to go up in flames because this is a HOLY WAR for them. But, you’re right, Kamala would have been terrible. That laugh, Jesus Christ, I’d much rather have WW3 than listen to that laugh.

Odd_Hair3829

history books one day - "it was after a tweet 'Operation Epstein Fury' that the American president deployed Nuclear weapons for the first time since WW2..."

Scribble_Box

We honestly deserve WW3.

coderinside

Why would anyone send 12T of that shit to Poland? We have WW from Wedel and it is a masterpiece of taste! Try WW once and froget KitShit forever.

Scriptum_

True, but his big mouth also stops people investing because at any moment, he can start WW3 or something. Investment in individual companies is even worse, because he regularly singles them out in his tweets too.

Crocoppertones

I personally dunno if I’d consider war a black swan event, especially when you have a mentally unstable leader at the helm. Not to hijack the thread but I’ll add another question, and maybe time will tell but: Is Bitcoin ITSELF a black swan event? Its success leads me to think so since ~~everyone~~ *many* thought it was a sham; and if it crashes to nothingness that would certainly also be the case since ~~everone~~ *many* think it’s the future But to me war is to be expected. (Hell - even a WW3 wouldn’t be a black swan event)

Spare_Restaurant_464

Youre saying that stocks are a great hedge against inflation because they always go up and they always go up because they’re a great hedge against inflation? Thats circular logic. Markets are about confidence and there are plenty of examples of stagflating markets. One of the reasons that hasn’t happened here is because of competent leadership and because of the post WW2 order.

AwareSeaweed_

The elites have been doing it for thousands of years. You could basically dumb down WW1 to a big family feud between cousins. Starting wars for profits is pretty common, as cynical as this sounds.

Legitimate-Relief915

Absolutely. This war is a row of dominoes slowly falling one at a time. We’re in the throes of WW3 unless there’s immediate deescalation.

devo9er

Well TACO is trying to TACO again this time but they called his bluff and....here we are on the verge of WW3. US has grown complacent with their never ending line that always goes up

Jolly_Reference_516

If Trump forgets to send out a trained monkey to spew another less believable boost we grind lower. There is no positive outcome visible right now and countries are declaring whose side they are on which sounds a lot like the beginning of a WW. Trump needs to find a way to declare victory but why would Iran help him with it? They are controlling the world economy and aren’t going to give it away without getting a bag. So it’s ground troops taking the island and Iran waiting until all our troops are on it and then blowing it all sky high.

Grand_Ad_672

They need a new grift, these lies won’t work anymore. We know US ground troops will be deployed and put in harms way. Welcome to WW3. You can thank the clown king and the people who put him in power.

Guilty-Deer-2147

Bols thought they were getting a street TACO and got a WW3 appetizer instead

danieliscrazy

In WW2, did the allies ever establish a base that can be hit by shells from the enemy or did they establish them out of range and establish a front? I get the impression that parking your gear in missle range is only done because they are counting on their middle defense.

Fluffy-Discussion166

First time since WW2, fighting an opponent with latest missile tech and competency.

2020isgreat

If he starts WW3 can he get a 3rd term like FDR

Guilty-Deer-2147

Bulls expected a side of TACO and got an appetizer of WW3 instead lmao