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bejammin075

With Russia & China providing real-time targeting info to the Iranians, while the US provides real-time targeting info to Ukrainians, we're already in the early stages of WW3.

SomePolack

They lost 29 soldiers in a crash this week, lost another jet today Yeah this is WW3

HappyThrasher99

Lol the canal is not the ONLY reason, its hardly even a top 5 reason for british reserve currency subordination, the advent of the american petrodollar in the middle east and the advent of the marshall plan and other nation state financing post-WW2 are the main reasons. Britain was dethroned in all of its aspects of global economic capture, the suez is just one of many occasions

ihopethisworksfornow

This is going to be the first war since WW1 where the U.S. military experiences substantial logistics issues. Calling it right now. Ain’t gonna be no Burger King on Kharg Island.

Professional-One972

It is important also to remember that “controlling the canal” not just militarily, but geopolitically is what mattered. The British were drunk with Old World power in the 50’s with WW2 and especially Iran and thought they still had weight to throw around and force unequal treaties. Nasser showed how that didn’t matter, particularly when anti-Israel sentiment gave him local support. Trump and MAGA fools think the same way about the US now. They think that taking food stamps away for drones and planes will subjugate an entire nation to their will - not understanding that coalitions and quid pro quo is what keeps the world together, not bombs and blood. FFS, getting our ass kicked in Afghanistan hasn’t helped us learn!

staythewaters

Trump said he wanted to shift to a war economy, probably to mimic WW2 style expansion. But if he uses that budget to turn around and destroy energy infrastructure or try to "take it" like he keeps threatening, then that just makes it a wash. Higher energy prices means higher prices on manufacturing and logistics, means margins start getting eaten into. Paired with the fact that much of the war spending in WWII went toward giving direct aid to rebuilding countries to bring them under the US' sphere of influence, which aided in our own expansion. If you're just spending money on military expansionism and blowing shit up, you're not going to get any return back.

Lagoon___Music

Got it, so anyone can do anything they want because the US did it at some point? So one action justified all future actions committed by anyone else? When does this timeline start? There's been wars for thousands of years -- why is only the US to blame based on your logic? Do the prior deeds "fall off" at some point and no longer justify future atrocities? What's your perspective on WW2, then? The allies killed nearly 100k German civilians in a single city. Did that also justify everything Germany do from there? Are you saying that they should never fight back then? Don't forget to not answer the above and change the subject and/or goal post instead.

A55BAG

Yeah, it would be easy to down it with any kind of anti-air weapon. Even WW2 era flak gun.

T1gerAc3

WW3 is just around the corner, so I'm not so sure the market is really forward looking.

FartPolluter

The way the entire western media is lying about losses in Iran like we are in WW2 and not in a dumbass bombing campaign started for no reason is just market manipulation.

MeYouThemEveryone

The way everyone is talking like WW3 will happen before SPY700. Keep calm, WW3 will definitely happen after next week, I mean SPY700.

ImLemonized

Somewhere in the future: \- WW3 turns into a nuclear war \- US and global economies collapse, inflation and unemployment at new record highs SPY +2%

Future-Call8541

I can't reference historical charts because you say so? This is the first major world event that has creating incredible volatility? There have been no other events? No WW I No great depression? No WW II? No cold war? No housing bubble crashes? No great recession? No dot.com bubble? Somehow these recent events are unprecedented? That's the problem with this generation; the belief that you're unique in your predicament. Somehow it's only happening to you. History rhymes man.

RagdollSeeker

I have to say, this graph is really misleading. Case in point, while Israel gets 3-6 billion USA each year, France gets 200$ last 25 years. But since graph shows aid from 1946, France still looks high, it was probably related to WW2 restoration efforts. Same with Turkiye which actually gets only humanitarian aid which peaked in 2023 due to earthquake that killed 50K people and migration aid for Syrian civil war. https://foreignassistance.gov/cd/france/

Kaplaw

And the US weaker than ever before after WW2

savethechows

WW3 really is priced in huh

Unlikely_Proof_7772

WW3 Confirmed ➡️ SPY $800

WordsHappenedHere

The stock market doubled during WW2

auroraavm

I feel like going on a food binge. I need to hedge for WW3's supply shortage.

RareGuarantee3532

Forgot to mention, Europe is naked, sheitanyahoo tryin to double or triple the size of his country and trololonald is gettin crazy not winning. If that does not turn into WW3, it will be only because Iran get nuked and if it does, they will bomb everything around. Time to invest in horses we aint gonna see Oil under 80 before long

ChewbaccaIsBear

I think the US would rather have a WW3 than just give in to China being the new boss in town without further resistance

DizzyMajor5

Iran fought Saddam while taking massive chemical weapons barrages, oil fields being lit on fire and massive WW1 style trench warfare casualties for years they're hardcore religious fanatics who were attacked 3 times during negotiations they believe the only way to not get attacked again is to have a sustained campaign that hurts the attackers even if they have to take damage doing so. The U.S. effectively took peaceful avenues off the table by doing this 3 times now sadly. 

DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Yea totally more celebrated than the end of WW2 and suicide of Hitler. Where millions, upon millions of people died horribly. Give your head a shake.

No-Contribution1070

Iran should ask for Gold as payment lmao. That would probably start WW3.

trumpdiego

ackshully the German stock market soared into WW1

tobiasfunkgay

That can be seen as a pro rather than a con though. It's the same in general society if someone has absolutely no stake in society and nothing to lose they tend to act dangerously and erratically. If Iran are making money from the strait they're now fully invested in it's security and doing anything to compromise that would be a huge blow to them not just to other countries. It's a lesson from how Germany was treated after WW1, the massive reparations they were made to pay crippled the economy, backed them into a corner and led to the rise of the Nazis and WW2 in large part because of those issues. I don't see any world where treating Iran as a pariah and giving them no stake in the strait will ever lead to a good long term outcome. You can't possibly bully a country that massive, especially not with the modern asymmetric warfare where offensive drones are super cheap and can be launched from anywhere while defending specific locations is incredibly expensive.

pickledmagahead

Why. WW3?

annon8595

How does one prosper with most extreme WW2 level debt without the WW2 level jobs and without WW2 level population boom? Population will be falling soon btw.

Sorryasaurus

Try to think of it like this. \- Look at the stock market since WW2. \- Look at what caused the great depression, look at the stock market \- You see, if the stock market is being propped up right now \- It's very logical that it was propped up since those major events way back when \- It's never been real, the US Govt picks the floor and ceiling, and it moves up every generation

One_Health_9358

WW3 is more likely than a single arrest.

deevee12

WW3 and bears can't even get a 10% dip LMAO

calm_discussion_3500

So was I, had to find jobs during dotcom bust but bro... seriously you have to shed your enormous recency bias. It's clouding your judgement big time. This isn't 08. Genuinely valuations were super fair it wasn't a bubble. But credit markets became stupidly overleveraged and overamplified with risk due to exotic derivatives that were then poorly understood. This time everyone is hyper vigilant of the smallest risk and we are printing at the smallest hiccup to prevent a crash. We're runnning WW2 deficits in peacetime to prevent a crash. Deflation is dead. We're never having it again absent a genuine unbelievable black swan we can't even fathom.

spudbro00

So apparently WW3 was just the market against bears and not in the middle east

dbd209

America could start WW3 tomorrow, and the market would front run the ending of the war and for whatever reason limit up. The stock market will never again have a sustained dip ever again, and nobody can convince me otherwise. Up only.

dbd209

Everything is bullish I guess. Oil goes to 150 a barrel? Bullish. China invades Taiwan? Bullish. WW3 begins? Bullish.

pajamageorge

WW3 is coming...but most of us will be watching it from the sidelines for the years to come. I feel horrible for those who will get pulled into the fighting.

climate-tenerife

In my admitedly rather uneducated view, i only see three courses of action: 1) boots on ground (unlikely, but i wont put anything past trump's need to save face) 2) retreat, claim victory, lose all support from US allies and crash the US economy into the ground 3) win by any means (nuke them once and threaten more unless they open hormuz and accept defeat) Or a 4th option: simply keep on throwing bombs like they currently are, and reassess next week. Does anyone else have any other ideas? To anyone who says "they won't use nukes", I do not personally put anything past trump. Trump will think that nukes ended the japanese threat in WW2; this would be just like that.

spudbro00

if there is a WW3 you would want to lower those price targets by at least another 30%

Raise_A_Thoth

Perhaps. We're in a period of violence, changing geopolitical dynamics, and escalation that, if this *did* escalate to a legitimately global all-out war, then yes, history would definitely look at March 2026 and say they had already begun WW3. But we haven't reached a point where it would qualify as WW3 yet, thankfully. Still can get horrifically nasty before a WW level event. Remember Korea and Vietnam were not WW3.

Secret_Block_8755

I fear that only makes the problem worse. Think post WW1 Germany.

Secret_Block_8755

I fear that only makes the problem worse. Think post WW1 Germany.

icearus

Were there "good guys" in WW2?

ThreeTonChonker

1. Lots of people came to the realization that gold and silver are outdated assets. People in the past month who tried to sell their physical gold and silver realized that only an exchange or pawn shop would buy it, but never for current value. Not to mention the fees that get stacked onto these transactions. Gold and silver as a stock or index fund is all vibes and paper. The exchange isn’t required to hold physical gold or silver so the entire market is fraudulent. Finally - the charts don’t lie, the outlook for gold doesn’t look good if you look at a 10Y chart and imagine the price reverting back to the mean. 2. AI stocks - I think this sector is in the same flux that the browser wars were experiencing during the 2000s. If you could go back in time and invest in Google, of course you would. But hindsight is 20/20, would you have avoided AskJeeves, Yahoo, AltaVista, etc? 3. BTC is the future. All of the problems of gold and silver are defeated. Crypto in general I don’t have much faith in, but Bitcoin is different, it’s unfortunate that Bitcoin is surrounded by the clown show of crypto. Closest comparison is the internet. Old people back then hated the internet and talked nonstop about how pen and paper will never be replaced. Some people would become truly upset if you forced email and websites onto them. The greatest generation (WW2 era adults) never adapted. Same thing with BTC. It’s clear boo mers are really struggling with wrapping their heads around it and become very upset at any mention of it. But that will change within 10-20 years when the boo mers are gone. I think BTC will go down as the greatest investment in history due to its utility as a store of value. It is still very early and yet the entire world is already starting to see the purpose of BTC. When shit hits the fan, people say they want gold, but never ask themselves how they would sell it. You can sell BTC to someone halfway across the world for current market value and get the money transferred into your account within 1-2 days. The utility is unbeatable and the trust is there since it cannot be hacked and there’s no CEO of Bitcoin, it is a machine that runs itself with no egomaniac to screw it up.

Maximum-Cash7103

Yeah as if the impending WW3 wasn’t bad enough.

Jaded-Influence6184

There have been war crimes in the 21rst century. But there have been no genocides. If you can point at a country or region and show virtually all members of an identifiable group have been killed off, then I'll take it back. Like 90%. For instance, in WW2 there were virtually no Jews, or Jehovah's Witnesses, and others left in Poland by the end of WW2. For example, at the start of WW2, 3.3 million Jews lived in Poland, by end of the war 380K; the difference went into the ovens or body pits. THAT's a genocide. The meaning of 'genocide' has been co-opted by left wing groups using the term to prop up their own arguments. It doesn't work. It's akin to using a word to define itself. I'm not saying in places recently that what amounts to war crimes have happened, but no to the level of genocide. You are minimizing what happened in real genocides by doing what you are doing.

softboiledjadepotato

After educating us on the timelines of WW1 and WW2.. must have taken the full strength of his remaining 9 brain cells not to say our WW3 will be swifter

I_am_Nerman

You wouldn't have survived WW2

OwnDoughnut2689

While not formally declaring war, congress has voted on resolutions for nearly every war after WW2, with some exception for Korea.

thenuttyhazlenut

I think Israel sees trump's presidency as an opportune moment to wage war on their enemies and have the US back them. They feel as if it's their time. The same way the Germans released their pent up resentment for Europe in WW2.

QuantrixQuintrix

He legit brought up WWI, WW2, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan as justifying the length SO FAR of this “excursion”.

poorat8686

Just going to say that the conspiritards were all fucking right all this time and you fucks called us crazy but it was all real you’d better start betting on conspiracies and dried beans boys this is a prelude to WW3

Difficult_Youth_8367

I know, I’m like bro keep the WW3 chat lowkey.

Several_Vanilla8916

“Compared to WW2 this really isn’t so bad. You know. For me.”

JeronimoPearson

He basically called this WW III. Spy back to 632 tomorrow

netflix-ceo

And this is happening while FIFA peace prize holder is running the show. Imagine if it was someone else lol, we would have wrapper up WW6 already

netflix-ceo

And this is happening while FIFA peace prize holder is running the show. Imagine if it was someone else lol, we would have wrapper up WW6 already

Aware-Teacher5389

I never thought in my lifetime I’d experience WW3 and a pandemic. Shit is crazy

IDUnavailable

* We've decimated them and done all the hard work * Everyone else should just go and take the strait/oil or buy it from us * We could have hit their oil but we haven't * Regime change wasn't our goal but everyone's dead * If he didn't undo Obama's deal with Iran (where he took a bunch of our green, green cash and gave it to them) then Israel wouldn't exist right now * We don't need to be there but we're there anyway because we're such good guys doing everyone a favor * Iran killed 6 million protesters * The strait will just open on its own naturally * Our country was dead and crippled after the last administration but now it's the hottest country in the world with zero inflation * If they don't capitulate then we're gonna bomb em back to "the stone ages" * Anyway we're going to be hitting them very hard over the next 2-3 weeks Also at one point he listed off how long the US was involved in WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea and Iraq to basically go "hey we've been there 30 days stop crying".

NeedToMakeMoneyz

Yeah let’s reference WW 1 and 2 great idea.

shindiggaa

WW1 only lasted 1 year???

Beneficial-Sign-569

mfker WW3 we fkd bols

fan_of_hakiksexydays

Why is he talking about WW1, WW2, Vietnam, etc... that's not helping here

vigocarpath

Israel has been calling the shots since the end of WW2

jsie-iaiqhsi816278

bears forgot WW2 pulled out the usa from the great depression. SPY 1000 EOY

bigluvin69

“Guys I just need WW3 so that I can make a couple grand”

cookingboy

And throughout everything you mentioned the U.S’s standing of a superpower grew, along with the strength of the petro-dollar. For the first time since the Civil War, the U.S’s strength is now waning and for the first time since WW2, the strength of the petro-dollar is now in question.

AI-Slop-Bot

Of course there is as they’re dealing with treacherous cowards who will attack them again in a few months time. They want real security guarantees and reparations backed by other strong nations to ensure it’s enforceable. Other strong nations won’t want to act as guarantors as Israel is a warmonger and will kick off WW3. It’s a complete impasse. US needs to finish the job or it will continue despite them chickening out. Trump is a moron.

Fast-Steak-7730

BREAKING: New COVID-19 variant nicknamed “Cicada” has been detected in multiple U.S. states and countries and is being monitored by health officials. WW3, new COVID, more tariffs(?) oh baby we going to see 500 again

Rosebunse

I hate it because I have had issues with Israel for years and now it's fashionable, but I still get weird comments from actual antisemitic people. I don't hate all Jews! Stop sending me your weird WW2 fanfiction!

Joint-Tester

Get off the sinking ship dude. What in the fuck are you waiting for? Literal WW3?

No-Relationship8261

4. Dems are gay. 5. WW3 but Libs still got owned.

saccotac

Surprise MF! WW3 starts this weekend and you are long as fuck

CarRamRob

I think you are downplaying how much more serious event this is than past dips and drops. The amount of oil offline is around 12 mmbbl/d. The world has never experienced that much offline as a percentage of use since WW2. Meanwhile, you are relaxing because Trump is retreating and things will return to normal…but it’s not Trumps call. It’s Iran’s. Why would the new leader who had his parents, wife and son killed in an assassination to start this war just wash their hands and reopen the strait? If Trump sends the Aircraft carriers home, now Iran can punish its enemies in the GCC even more, and control their production wholly. If Trump leaves, it means OPEC control means nothing anymore, and Iran, and Iran alone controls the price of oil across the whole world. If that scenario makes you want to invest at 4% off all time highs, feel free. But it’s a major departure to a system that has kept the price of oil and its supply controlled for the last 80 years. If you think this is like a Government lockdown, or tariff announcement etc, you are the one who has no convincing.

Twelvesthegreat

https://x.com/WW3_Monitor/status/2039384239645360375 Is that bullish?

Subject-Chest-8343

Weren't the french saying this about WW1 ?

Sturmghiest

You clearly don't know what led up to the Gulf War do you? Would be like saying the UK started WW2

bejammin075

Have you ever heard of Iraq or Viet Nam? We had over 500,000 troops on the ground in Viet Nam, and they didn't surrender. Did you know that we also bombed Viet Nam with more than what fell on Europe and Asia during WW2? You don't seem to get how it works when we fight halfway around the world for a war that is optional for us, but a matter of survival for the opponent.

DISAPPOINTING_FAIRY

The consequence will be, and already has been, the world. Men like these will destroy it in pursuit of their godlike delusions, and the money machine gives them their power. It gives them the capital they need to operate as individuals, and it also works as a sort of proxy approval rating. 🥭 has been told the stove is on over and over. He continues to touch it. He continues to not get burned. Why is that? Is he wearing some type of glove and just isn't aware of it? Is the stove not actually on? Who knows? But he's certainly not learning to associate the act of touching the stove with the sensation of getting burned. WW2 ended over 80 years ago now. Just about the length of a human lifespan. Meaning that event is all but gone from living human memory. We've heard the stories, we were warned, but we weren't *there*, and so we don't *really* know. The Great Depression was even further back. This is how history repeats itself. Eventually, the burner will actually be hot.

bejammin075

Any troops we put there would be slaughtered. You sound like Dick Cheney saying we'll be greeted as liberators. After we just struck 10,000 targets, many of which have killed civilians. We've strengthened the Iranian regime, that's what typically happens when we attack a country, the rally-around-the-leader effect. Any troops that land need bases to operate out of, and they need logistical support. Iran has destroyed most of the opposing radar in the region, we are blind to their drone attacks. They would pound any US positions with drones, all the while we'd have to rely on air power alone for logistical support: weapons, food, water, medical evacuation. If we invade by ground it would be worse than Gallipoli WW1.

zuziannka

WW3 will be bullish or bearish?

CarRamRob

See this isn’t thinking too much about trading on trends and expectations. People are forgetting we have currently the largest oil outage by % that the world has ever experienced since WW2 and are treating it as a “buy the dip” moment. This isn’t a financial problem, it’s a physical one that is about to halt factories, movement of goods, etc.

RareGuarantee3532

Actually western peace was mostly due to fear of communism until 90s then aging population. No country with a 40+ average age never started a war on its territory. Neighboring wars are always between a rising power and a falling one, every EU country was destroyed after WW2. Now we are going down, so we are attacking countries going up (hello russia, hello middle east, hello south america,...)

CATLLM

Every country having announcements today means WW3

CATLLM

WW3

TailRudder

They are hoarding oil for WW3

Top-Meaning2626

[WW?](https://x.com/i/status/2039175532512698680)

TernTheNumbers

https://xcancel.com/WW3_Monitor/status/2039170090348732689#m

Moist-Ninja-6338

Would you have believed the Germans in WW2?

ozz3121

Trump's announcement tomorrow will be the announcement of the first usage of nukes on another nation since WW2. We will be launching a nuke every time he says "nuke".

Amazing_Plankton744

Starting WW3 on Easter does fit these peeps' motives. By peeps I mean the pastel decimators of teef.

cheerfulwish

People are clueless. If the US were to the modern version of what bombing looked like in WW2, they would give a 1 week warning for people to evacuate a city before flying 50 b52s over head and carpet bombing an area, completely leveling everything. I’m happy wars are no longer fought like that (sucks they are fought at all) but people thinking there is no escalation possible are as clueless as those who listen to Trump.

No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

Cause the US wasn't really impacted during WW2. American manufacturing massively benefitted in fact.

WordsHappenedHere

Fun fact. The stock market doubled during WW2. This ain’t even close to WW3 bro. So maybe we wont quite double then?

WordsHappenedHere

Stock market doubled during WW2.

Puzzleheaded-Mix6359

Both countries are ruining there own economies with this war. No one wants to side with America, which is the number 1 thing they had going for them as a country since WW2, and oil from Iran will become too expensive which will in turn force countries to become for self reliant outside of Iran. I know here in Australia we are already looking at sourcing our own oil from Queensland and South Australia

Icy-Sheepherder-7595

When the words involve the potential for WW3 yea that sort of thing is what makes and breaks the stock market. Idk what the point of your comment is.

DesticularDorsion

Where are they going to stage? Kuwait? UAE? You don't understand the logistical impossibility of this. Form of power to what? Not be able to medivac or resupply? The country is 3x Iraq and almost entirely mountains. We can't get boats in, and there is 24/7 ISR. I'm sure the IRGC is shaking in their boots at the idea of a bunch of stranded Americans. This isn't WW2. 

Budget-Ocelots

Nothing. The pandora box is already opened after WW2.

Beginning-Town-4979

I'm just making a joke about the military claiming to be on Holiday. Also, try not assuming that everyone who makes jokes about your France's performance in WW2 is pro-War or uneducated. This is social media, not a discussion at the College of War.

CoC_Axis_of_Evil

Aren't we already past the point of no return with the Petro dollar? Unless they take the oil physically, there is no leverage over other countries to use the dollar. Also, those countries can eventually pull the WW2 Russia strategy of scorched earth.