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Unassisted3P

>Closed under $670 >WW3 Literally a Tweet away >3 Month, YTD and 1yr chart all ominous af >Oil about to be $150 a barrel >still no Nvidia sex robots All signs pointing signaling we're due for a Spy +2% day.

Godherebros

Reminds me of WW2 specifically the invasion of France. The capability to severe the "blitzkrieg" simply did not exist

throwaway2676

Trump also said he would nuke Beijing if Xi invaded Taiwan in his first term. He never takes anything off the table. Hell, there's a timeline where escalating this to WW3 was always the plan.

owmysciatica

Imagine the “no new wars” guy putting us in a real possibility of WW3.

Synergiex

It is easy to start wars by attacking sovereign countries, kill their leaders, destroy their infrastructure and military; but doesnt mean it will be that easy to end. Trump better start calling russia, turkiye and others to find a deal to end this without embarrassing ourselves or putting boots on the ground. Even then you will risk WW3… this war was not planned well from the get go, was it?

SnooMacarons4225

Using a tactical nuke would set off WW3. USA will need taking down by being out of control and having and using nukes unnecessarily and not allowing anyone else to have them. It would be a green light for Russia to do the same in Ukraine and theres nothing stopping Russia passing Iran a nuke as their ally to allow them to respond in kind to the US as they can claim they have enriched uranium and make it themselves... Their nuke would probably hit Israel as they don't have the missiles to hit America and next thing you know you have multiple counties lobbing nukes in all directions

MuricanWisecrack

i kind of feel like very doomed when i look at the future. A) i studied CS, i worked as Freelancer for the last 7 years - they do not hire so much anymore and the easy money gets eaten away as the Toollayer does B) the Markets are fucked thanks to Mango C) who the fuck is making any money anywhere? How? with what business? we enter full AI-Driven Tech-feudalism. Fuck all your startups - they will be merely trainingdata for Big-Money Tech Conglomerates. Worst part about it? They do also not make any money with it but have huge burn. You were the best in doing some Javascript UI, learned that hard for the last 10 years, grinding 50 hour weeks? Fuck you, hoho, Claude/Codex/Gemini does 10x your work now hohoho And Donny decides to enter WW3 and send us into a fuckin energyshock and everything is going up in flames

thealex7r

Yeah, just like US during WW2

eagleeye1031

LOL you are actually so stupid Iran is a country with 90 million people. The Ayatollah is the central authority for Shia Muslims and Iran has the most Shia Muslims in the world by far. I never said it will mean WW3, that is a straw man. I said they will definitely not let this transgression slide. Yes, many are happy that he is dead and he is definitely a terrible person by our standards, but he is still extremely important for the vast majority living in Iran. This is what happens when morons on wsb migrate to other subs and act like experts on shit they have no clue about

SubjectAfraid

WW3 is here.

Icy-Sheepherder-7595

They're literally dancing in celebration. Surveys indicate 80% of Iranians hate the oppressive regime. Are you aware of the thousands of dead protestors they've killed recently? Also, Iran is not the center of Islam, most other Muslims in the world like the ones living in the gulf states (which are our allies) don't give a shit he's dead, they're happy, they go to Mecca to worship anyways, which is in Saudi Arabia not Iran. Idk where this idea came from that Iran was some holy land for Muslims, it's not that's what Mecca is for. I'm so sick and tired of mouth breathers simplifying things into stupidity statements like "we killed their pope so WW3 now!!!"

Urzuck

There was a saying during WW1, "they entered the war like sleepwalkers"

Icy-Sheepherder-7595

No point in rationalizing with people who just want to scream doom and gloom. I personally am not pro-war I think you have to be psychotic to but im also not sold on "WW3 it's over waaahhh sell everything". The VIX was over 2 times higher during the tariff fiasco, many stocks still near ATH's, if shit were really hitting the fan we'd feel it. I don't buy the fear personally. Most people couldn't even tell you if Iran is Sunni or Shia

Crazed_Chemist

Torpedoes are absolutely a huge threat at this point. Modern navies with submarine forces just haven't fought that much since WW 2. Almost the entire premise of the Soviet Navy was to threaten NATO shipping in the Atlantic, we just (thankfully) never saw that play out. There's an entire LINE of sonar transponders between Greenland and Iceland just to account for that. The British sunk General Belgrano during the Falklands with a submarine. Obviously the US juat sank an Iranian Frigate with one. There are some think tanks that believe that the main way the US can limit/stop a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would be with submarines. Waterborne drones change the game because you don't need to maintain a much more expensive naval asset to use them. Ukraine doesn't have a navy to shoot torpedoes at the Russian fleet, Iran when confronted with the US really doesn't have a navy. Any boat ramp with access to a road gives you the ability to deploy a sea drone against a foe you couldn't actually fire a torpedo at.

Ok-Adeptness-5834

Well so in what ways do waterborne drones differ from torpedos as a threat? We’ve been dealing with torpedos for almost a century and so far, it seems like we don’t lose ships to them post WW2. So what changes with waterborne drones?

PanzerKomadant

The time to suspend the Jones act was back in 1920 when it first came out. Because of it, US ship building got fucked post WW2 and the rise of container ships. US shipyards are now husks of their former self, while Chinese, Korean and Japanese yards dominate.

Better-Call-SauI

US really fumbled the bag with Iran. WW2 France is probably more capable fighting force than US.

JOPAPatch

You can’t protect shipping in the Gulf. It’s a bottleneck. I broke it down in another thread [here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/s/4n3s6JyVBC) Basic gist is, the Iranian threat will never go away, theres too many ships, there’s no alternative routes for shipping, insurance companies will never insure the ships or will price it too high to be affordable, there’s not enough DDGs to escort ships, and not enough missiles to protect ships. Defending the Gulf and fighting through the Strait of Hormuz was war gamed in the 1990s extensively and was determined to be not feasible. Some things are impossible even for the world’s greatest military. The Navy determined that if it had to be done, there had to be a ship that the Navy could afford to lose. That birthed the littoral combat ship (LCS). The LCS became a bloated program that overran costs, leading to it no longer being affordable to lose. The Navy is really good about designing a low cost ship and making it too expensive because they have to be survivable. Wars cannot be won by the air unless the enemy is willing to surrender. Their resolve needs to be weak enough to break from just bombing alone. Congress and the US military called it strategic air theory after WW2, believing they could bomb any country’s logistical, industrial, and leadership power into oblivion, ending any war. This led to the 1949 revolt of the Admirals after Congress killed a class of aircraft carriers and wanted to eliminate the USMC. The Korean War happened and we realized that you need air, land, and sea forces to defeat an adversary. Pyongyang had zero logistics and industry left and yet they still fought on. The Islamic Republic is heavily ingrained in all aspects and facets of government and industry in Iran, making it impossible to just bomb them until they quit. They need something that can physically remove them since they cannot be motivated to just quit. They don’t care about civilian deaths because civilians can’t hold them accountable. They don’t care about keys to power like industry because there’s no risk to industry turning on them; they are the industry. The clown show is believing that air power alone could defeat Iran. There’s no ground force situated in the Gulf. Any ground invasion would need to originate in another country or by amphibious landing. Arab states have not allowed the US to strike from their countries and the next best would be Turkey, who also doesn’t approve of the war. Iraq is very opposed to the war, and the ghost of Saddam could tell you that the Zagros Mountains ain’t nothing to fuck with. Even flat Khuzestan doesn’t lead to major population centers. That leaves amphibious landings. The “green” Navy has very little self defense other than point defense weapons, relying heavily on DDGs for protection. That would mean an amphibious landing in the Gulf would require fighting through the Strait. Unlikely. That leave just Chabahar as the sole port that the US could land at. And the roads from Chabahar to the other cities are unlikely to be welcoming. The Zagros Mountains still exist. Maybe aerial assault? My history is fuzzy but airborne attacks alone don’t have a good track record. Market Garden in the Netherlands lacked the heavy weapons needed to penetrate defenses once tossed into the fray. The Nazi attack on Crete was a Pyrrhic victory, destroying their airborne force. And the most recent VDV attack on Hostomel led to soldiers getting ran over by sedans and pickups trucks because the attacks ran out of bullets and the defenders chased them down for funsies. Long and short, the plan would only be successful if Iran was willing to quit. There were no indications that they would just give up 47 years of government. There was no contingency plan of air power alone failed. It’s hilarious that the Department of Energy realized this before the Department of Defense.

Dramatic-Morning-100

Nobody can front run anything because somebody wakes up and says this would be a good day to start WW3.

Straight6er

Since the 1930s elements of various air forces across the world have pushed for strategic air bombing, they see it as the best way to fight a war: destroy manufacturing capacity, destroy the will of the people to continue the war. WW2 showed us neither of these is strictly speaking true. Turns out when people are bombed it often has a galvanizing effect on the population (Battle of Britain) and it's actually quite difficult to knock out manufacturing capacity, even when you carpet bomb an area. Also: words like "precision" are extremely misleading, even with modern cutting edge "precision" weapons the US manages to score a direct hit on an elementary school... Unless of course that was intended.

SecretPantyWorshiper

>The timeline for this war has been 4-5 days, then 2 weeks, then 8 weeks, now they're talking about September. You cannot win a war through the air. You cannot effect regime change through the air. Yeah its really crazy. I remember watching war documentaries about Vietnam and this was the exact mentality US High command had with dealing with the NVA and Veitcong. I forget who but someone said "We will bomb them back to the stoneage" The amount of ordinance dropped was absolutely absurd. ~8 million ordinance dropped. Thats more than all of the Allies in WW2 (~2.5 Million) and probably more than the combined amount dropped by both sudes lol.  It did fuck all to the NVA and Vietcong

jphilliparchitect

Global economy, energy and shipping will ripple into everything else. Look at the history of regime-change wars since WW2 and it has never worked out quickly or well. I'd think it is probably very soon when this is declared "over" or a "victory" but it won't go away. It's a terrible thing to say out loud, but after witnessing how 9/11 changed the world, I suspect there's a lot of people who quietly worry how this might lead to another major attack.

Otherwise-Ad6670

Just as my credit score went up nicely and my life finally starts to look good I got money and my positions are moving up I can afford things… do we have to start WW3 oil edition now? Like come on is this all to fuck me over?

noahmfs

It could be WW3 and the market will be bullish this is manipulation on a whole new level is like pedo lover runs the market itself.

wickedmen030

That would end in WW3 or impeachment. I'm not sure who would win in a war with China/India vs the USA

Miserable-Age-1692

That is wild to me. You would think a nation like the US would have a few months at least of oil stockpiled in case of like idk WW3 or something similar.

justinballsonya

Haha not really true. They have way worse long term problems compared to the United States. United States isn’t facing demographic collapse on the insane scale China will. They have also been weakened by Russia going into its own steep irreversible decline 10-20 years early and what’s happened with Argentina and Iran. In fact the U.S. is the only leading country set up for long term success, really. We will have many years with dumb leaders before we really decline and collapse. China’s best bet for success is invading Taiwan, which is why they are likely to do that within the next few years and really kick off WW3.

Gom_KBull

Not a bad idea, i already see high likelihood given current events that this will evolve into WW3. going to see if i can pick up some RCAT and RTX

Gom_KBull

Not even halfway through his term he managed to: * piss off nearly every country in a single day * kick off WW3 Not great, but still damn impressive with the fuckup strength

c2ny

Wasn’t that basically WW1

SaturdaysAFTBs

Have you ever heard of torpedo boats? They’ve existed since WW2.. small boats can carry torpedoes too. There’s also more than one way to launch a torpedo. There are land based launchers that can launch a rocket holding a torpedo that splashes into the water. The US Navy’s primary anti submarine warfare platform is a Blackhawk helicopter that drops torpedoes into the water.

Online_Commentor_69

i mean we might be in the early days of WW3 here, i think that counts as a happening. the strait of hormuz has never seen shipping activity this limited this long. shit is happening for sure.

hermeskino715

Holy shit. Remember last year, on Feb 28, was when 🥭 told Zelensky he's gambling with WW3? Fast forward to the exact same date, we bombed Iran. If some one can make an AI video with the roles reversed, that would be hilarious

PTRBoyz

People are more likely to be desperate to not die alone during WW3 than they are to delete bumble. 

SubjectAfraid

WW3 is here.

hermeskino715

If he wants to finish the job then just drop the nuke and start WW3 already

TheBooneyBunes

If he’s correct then it’s likely the global economy crashed due to WW3

Ornery_Intern_2084

was the stockmarket going up in WW2 aswell? because its pretty much WW3 now

Easy-Yogurt4939

The U.S. can’t afford high interest rate itself for too long. It enters debt spiral sooner that way. When it does, you also get hyperinflation anyway. The only plausible way forward is to cause inflation, not a hyper one, just higher than usual, to “wash away” the debt. Same thing the U.S. did after WW2. But of course, it’s much harder to navigate that because every administration is spending more than the last and the U.S. is no longer a manufacturing power house.

cupofchupachups

Maybe, but consider the long view that predates Boomers. The West and the the US in particular is now coming to the true end of the post WW2 boom. The dotcom explosion is kind of it. Sorry, VR isn't going to keep it going. Flying taxis aren't it. Satellite internet is nice, but also not it. Everything we, our parents, and possibly our parents parents believe has been informed by that situation. Many of the moves we've seen in the last decade have been desperation to keep it going. It's not pretty. Also consider that earth's population is expected to level off at the earliest in about 20 years. No advice from anybody during the period that earth's population boomed from 1 billion to its likely high point at about 10 billion will apply when the population starts shrinking.

SupramanE89

It’s because their only 2 choices are start WW3/ crazy distraction or go to prison as pedos. Guess which one they picked?

Certifieddddd

I mean we are on the verge of WW3, 20% of all global supply of oil is shut down, spy is like 2% off all time high. Only bers downvoting me because they are getting cooked

DeltaVx_

did people alive during WW2 call WW2 "WW2" or did it become "WW2" after the end of WW2. Like retrospectively.

Gom_KBull

Theres already 20+ countries involved. Some economists are already saying we are watching WW3 unfold.

TheA2Z

Most of Irans equipment is demolished. When it takes new equipment out of hiding it gets hit. I see this being ongoing. Could be years and multiple presidents. However the threat of any broad military action against the world will continue to diminish. This wont be a WW2 moment with a signing of peace treaty. Will just be a constant game of whack a mole until Iranian people end their oppression and overthrow the theocracy.

Opposite_Engine_6776

Bears were hoping for WW3. Instead, they got V V 3

jstvndrpls

I find myself hoping for WW3 because I sold everything last week. Wouldn't even make me any money, I just want to feel like I did the right thing 

ProperMod

If this really does take 20 years to build a refinery this is probably not a good idea. This really just keeps the old guard pleased. While yes it was funded by Biden’s programs and of course Trump is going to steal credit for it plus’s be all about it because of his lack of forward thinking as well as deep pockets telling him to kill renewable/green energy sources. We need to move away from a country that relies on oil like we do or it will continue to be detrimental for the Earth as well as the citizen of America. Being so reliant on oil keeps America as the top military power in the world, in bed with middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia ( Ties To 9/11), and always leaves the door open for future wars or invading counties for regime change America does not need to be invoking. America should not be going into or starting any war unless America is provoked by attack like in WW2. WW2 was constantly escalating and FDR refused to get involved until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Lastly to quote writer Thor Benson "If he actually cared about 'energy dominance,' he wouldn't be doing everything he can to cancel renewable energy projects,"

BDObadguy

Doesn't it feel like we have a bit too much info coming out all the time? Earnings reports, macroeconomic data, WW3. How about we just chill and let stocks do their thing for a bit.

aftherith

You can see the market getting numb to Iran headlines already. You are going to need a new WW3 bears or oil to skyrocket again.

Uisce-beatha

Historically that hasn't worked well for anyone and although Japan moved to a more peaceful society after WW2 I don't think the thousands of years of warrior culture is that far beneath the surface

ismebbb

I yearn for WW3 when I'm cash and world peace when I have calls

Communismo

If Iran actually deploys a meaningful amount of underwater mines the strait could be shut down for much, much longer. US naval minesweeping technology is very old. Most of it dating back to WW2, with some capabilities developed in the 80s.

SubjectAfraid

WW3 here we go…

Montyprice7206

He wasn’t lying, Zelenskyy was sitting next to WW3

TracyM45

Germany laid 80,000 naval mines in WW2. How'd that work out

ContentMusician8980

Could have placed mines on the sea floor a while back, it’s not just the old magnetic mines from the WW2.  There are mines that only arm and detonate when the read specific acoustic signatures.  Others are basically torpedoes on the seafloor and launch upwards when they detect a ship passing overhead. 

lOo_ol

Again, lack of historical knowledge. It's a shame, because you're not difficult to talk to, quite civil actually. You'd probably change some of your views, should you know a bit more. The Red Army was responsible for about 80% of all German military losses. At the time of the D-Day, the German army had 228 divisions fighting the Red Army compared to only 58 facing the Western Allies. And cherry on the cake, the Russians captured Berlin in May 1945. WW2 was overwhelmingly decided on the Eastern Front, and that's just historical facts. What you believe is just the product of pop culture and American movies, and it's not limited to Americans. Many Europeans believe the US is to thank for the end of WW2, and it's quite interesting. See [article here](https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not).

Green_Conclusion5792

*Trump after single handedly starting WW3* “By the way, they should thank me, no president would ever do what I did”

lOo_ol

Brother, you really need to dig a bit more before making claims like these. Putting aside the belief that the US single-handedly solved those conflicts, the idea that they had no interest in the outcome, or didn't cause unrest to begin with is just beyond absurd. I don't know even know where to start... the US didn't liberate Germany, despite what pop culture and American movies made you believe. The Russians did most of the work. I'm afraid you don't have that "basic understanding" on WW2, so let's not get ahead of ourselves on what followed. Everyone and their grandmother were in Yugoslavia. Japan was on the verge of capitulating, dropping not one but two nukes on the most populated cities was downright evil. And you must be fucking with me by listing Panama as an unselfish intervention. Last time Europeans were in charge, and I'm assuming you mean the British Empire and the French Empire before them, it was an absolute bloodbath. The US just took over, but make no mistake, it's the same story, different cast. But unlike you, I don't treat politics like sports, where I feel obligated to support my team no matter what, so you can drop the "you guys". All those bloodthirsty politicians can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.

Ok-Adeptness-5834

It literally just takes one counter example to prove your statement that American invades countries for oil wrong. So I listed the most obvious counter examples. There are only so many American interventions to choose from, and most of them have been a net positive: Germany, Japan, Korea, Yugoslavia, Panama, Grenada, Kuwait. Like a very basic understanding of history since WW2 makes this obvious. I get that as a European, you think no one else matters except European security and comfort. And last time the Europeans were in charge, you guys just went around the world and colonized everyone. But I think a South Korean live matter just as much as a Norwegian and am happy to see South Korea being a prosperous democracy instead of whatever North Korea ended up.

lOo_ol

Your lack of historical knowledge inevitably leads to the wrong conclusions. You look at Iran today, or other countries you mentioned, and think the US is merely liberating oppressed people out of good heart (which is crazy thinking in and by itself), because you have no idea how we got here in the first place. Here's a quick rundown that you can fact-check online if you wish, and hopefully you'll see this whole thing with a difference perspective. After WW2, Iran was made an oil field for the British, which led to poverty and protests, and the election of a PM who nationalized the oil industry. In response, the US and the British overthrew the Iranian's government in the early 1950s, for an authoritarian regime serving the West, oppressing the population and killing dissidents with a secret police (so much for liberating people). That led to the Islamic revolution of 1979, and subsequent conflicts with the West... Sucking every ounce of economic life from poor countries to serve the interest of an empire, putting in place a brutal regime that keeps people in line while stealing natural resources until they turn to radicals, so you can ultimately bomb the place isn't exactly good deed... Hate to break it to you, but the US is not the good guys in this story.

nahscopeDI

I'm not saying this is a well thought out decision. Obama's previous deal was regarded by experts as an effective solution. Trump usually pressures other nations to get what he wants, in many cases, impulsively. These are the current results of his short-sightedness, but it will get worse in the middle east. I can't be certain how wide the conflicts will spread after Iran's previous supreme leader was killed. The only reason the US didn't attack Greenland was because the NATO alliance were ready to defend their ally against us. That would've been war with half of Europe or WW3. That's just one occasion. Many of his tariffs were struck down as illegal which invited lawsuits from companies like Nintendo for example. Now we have to pay these companies back, potentially with interest depending on the ruling. That's inconvenient considering he laid off many government employees who oversaw these duties. Most of his methods are replications of previous policy from other administrations or brute force.

MGarroz

This is a shallow take. The straight of Hormuz and Iran are only symptoms of something larger.  The “rules based order” that has controlled global trade since the end of WW2 has officially ended. American hegemony and their public aversion to empire are over. The Yen carry trade is over. A cohesive European Union and NATO alliance is currently corroding. The days of a passive China seem like they may soon end as well.  There is not a single person alive today that has any clue where the markets will be next year, or 10 years from now. There’s currently too many possibilities for future timelines. We could have WW3, we could have a hawkish America enacting the Monroe doctrine across the American continents. We could have chip factories in Taiwan destroyed setting the AI and tech markets back decades. We could have none of that.  Don’t try to time this market, invest what you can afford to invest and keep some cash on hand for any potential opportunities. Nobody knows what’s going on anymore which means it’s prime time to make a fortune or loose it all, the perfect time for WSB regards. 

LongHealth

We got WW3 and Artificial Intelligence before GTA6

LongHealth

We got WW3 and Artificial Intelligence before GTA6

boris1869

WW2 mines are still found regularly

Voltthrower69

When people were saying Mango was going to start WW3 after he and his billionaire friends were all pedos they seemed a silly…but now…

SoSKnZaZa

Maybe he confused it with a WW-2.

MatterFickle3184

I'm 3rd generation military. I served during Iraq war. My father served in Vietnam. My great uncle in WW2. What's your fucking excuse?

Rare_Steak_

Even between 1942 and 1945 the US market went up and the German market only crashed after the war so yeah I guess unless its the literal end of the world, it will not be the end the world. [Cool article I found about markets during WW II](https://www.investmentoffice.com/Observations/Markets_in_History/Stock_Markets_during_the_second_World_War.html)

DisastrousCopy7361

Market past is basically completely irrelevant since the money printing during covid and the government saving the market. It is completely detached from the economy. It's mainly the hedges/mega-rich trading money amongst themselves with retail making up a small % of the market. With money printing that went on the sp500 will basically never go below 3500-4k unless there is a major shift in world powers. Even a drop to 5k would be shocking and would be likely be because of WW3.

AdamantheusEnigma

Bears hoping WW3 starts so the 300 bucks (that’s all they have to their name) in USO calls can 2x, fucking disgusting losers

F0rbiddenD0nut

If Russia uses that reasoning to attack US forces in Iran, then we can go into Ukraine and do the same thing. Let's not do that though, as it inevitably leads to WW3 and a very bad time for everyone.

I_Sniff_Uranus

The fact that a 4% sell off in SPY caused a TACO on WW3 proves that Wall Street is still in charge of literally everything lmao

Uisce-beatha

We've been involved in conflict for 220 of our 250 year history. You could say war is good for whale farts and find a correlation. WW2 was bullish for our country but the rest left the US economy in a bad spot. This situation isn't something you can just start and stop. These idiots killed the parents and wife of the new leader in Iran and he's probably a little bit pissed off about that. This isn't over yet and I have zero faith in this administration

WSB-mods-are-

We had WW3 start and end before GTA VI

Put_Er_There_Sport

Nah I get that, itd all be for show and "legalities" or whatever theyre half assed argument would be. It would however provide this administration with the firepower to go full on war mode and say Iran and every ally of them must be eliminated propelling us into WW3, as he seems to want to do

xViscount

Attrition? Lol. Lmao even. Attrition was WW1 trenches. This? Israel is going in and out as they please and causing whatever damage they want with no resistance. This comes down to 1. How far does Israel want to go? And 2. Can Iran keep their information networks alive long enough while keeping a unified front a delving into factions.

0xBorisjohnson

Imagine Netanyahu really is dead and you first heard about it on wsb in some random comment in the daily, then Israel nuke the Pyramids because they don't like muzzies, then NK nukes South Korea and China invades Taiwan and you managed to get down into your bunker just in time before WW3 kicks off, and it is all because you were shitposting in this cesspit

SubjectAfraid

WW3 is already here. 🙄

Montyprice7206

We were told WW3 would be the end of civilization Turns out it was just the end of being able to afford anything 🥺

KarmaWhoreCam

If you were in a position of power we would be in WW3 right now. This is so ignorant lol. Do you have any idea how horrific this would be? 

laukkanen

You really think he won't just say whatever he wants and claim it as the truth? Regardless what happens he'll pull out of Iran and claim "this was the biggest victory in the history of humanity. This was a bigger victory than WW2 over the Nazi's. No one has ever won like we won." He simply makes shit up and declares it the truth.

GetShorty006

Trump is preventing WW3 by getting rid of the regime that would start WW3. They killed tens of thousands of their own people. What would keep them from nuking Israel or one of their neighbors if they produce a nuclear weapon?

Thisispaartaaa

In WW2, civilian cargo ships would cross the Atlantic ocean filled with German (most powerful navy in it's day) U-boats.....today not 1 ship will cross a tiny straight, because a nation with no remaining land, navy, or sea force, told them not to......make this make sense.

BicarbonateBufferBoy

Bro we’ve lost like every war since WW2 lmao

RogerBalderer

I find it hilarious all the "experts" are parading around the youtube sphere saying this is WW3

Suspicious_Loss_84

It’s gonna be hilarious when we’re in WW3 and people will be here trying to make money off when the next nuke gets launched

Brokenandburnt

It's kinda funny that the US thinks it won WW2 solo.  Read a couple of books. Failing that there's a _plethora_ of good YouTube videos on the subject in question. You'd be quite surprised as to what the US contributions was.

razikp

People have a short memory. Remember WW1 and 2 and how now Germany are our "closest allies"

Muted-Doctor8925

WW3? Believe it or not, calls

Sudden-Smoke-8377

lol Donnie is OK with WW3 but when gas is getting 10 then we all super friends

SuperGoodRookies

“Unrestricted submarine warfare” is what dragged the US into WW2 when it wanted to stay neutral. No quicker way to turn sympathetic countries into enemies than indiscriminately sinking oil tankers.

Sasuke082594

Not even oil being ATH could keep the market down… at this rate not even “we are entering WW3” from Trump could keep the market down. In other words, BTFD and congrats if you do.

SergeantThreat

Imagine saying WW2 was over while we were still dropping nukes on Japan

Sudden-Smoke-8377

fuk last nite we were like in WW3 and now we peace?

Csbbk4

This feels like it would be similar to the Gallipoli campaign in WW1 because I’m sure Iran has been fortifying their strait for 30 years. Not to mention that it only takes one of their hundreds of cheap missiles to incapacitate a warship

idisagreeurwrong

Yes that's what I wanted. I wanted people like you to make wild hypotheticals that culminate into a world war. I would then explain why that's ridiculous and stupid. I would explain that you can hypothetical yourself into any situation and that Is a terrible basis for describing something as the start of WW3

fallingdowndizzyvr

LOL. The whole point of this little subthread is .... "I'd love to hear your logic on how this has high potential of spiralling into a global conflict of a level not seen in 80 years. " -- you You literally asked for a "hypothetical" and now you are moaning because it hasn't already happened yet... "How about we wait until that happens before saying this is the start of WW3." -- you again. So you don't want to discuss a "hypothetical" until after it happens. OK...... > If the bar is set that low it loses all meaning You just made your post that started this little subthread meaningless.