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I'm not sure what your question is exactly but maybe this scenario will help. I buy stock XYZ for $100. I sell a call @ $90, and I'm paid $11 in premium for that call. When I get assigned, I sell my stock for $90, and I already have the premium. So, I made $1 / 1%. I usually roll. I'll buy back the $90 call a week later (plus or minus) for $8 and sell a new call for $9. I made another $1 net premium or 1 return on my $100 capital invested. I have only ever stopped rolling because XYZ surged in price and I was so far ITM that I couldn't roll it for a profit in a reasonable time window. I like to keep it to 1 week, 4 weeks max.
I responded to your original comment but my responses also cover your comment here: > Once a few of those pilots flip to full commercial contracts This is precisely what I mean in my last statement, if news were to come out of major contract wins then I see this thing exploding. Also as someone with a startup who is starting to see larger contracts, I can tell you for certain that they'll need to spend money to get pilots into full commercial contracts. We've had a number of paid pilots and coming from them, the customer said something akin to "We want to use this but we need to see XYZ first in the app" and then we essentially have to do some math to decide does the spend to make those updates justify chasing a potential larger deal (oftentimes the answer is no, depends what the upside could be). > The EPS improvement isn’t just from cutting costs either. They’ve brought in a new leadership and technical team over the last couple months that’s been focused on tightening operations and spending smarter setting the stage for scale instead of burning through cash too soon. This is kind of a contradictory statement, they're not cutting costs but new leadership is "tightening operations" and "spending smarter" which are pretty standard euphemisms for cutting costs to improve financial health. Also something new leadership tends to do because they want to show financial improvement initially and provide cash mobility for whatever initiatives they see as winners (which can be a positive sign, cutting costs is not necessary bad). Revenue quality improvements are important, I didn't see any specific information about that (because mostly I was responding to the original post) but if they're gaining larger/more secure customers that's definitely a good signal.
XYZ, RDDT, and NXT. My cumulative non finance education tells me these are the best deals from today
I still believe in bitcoin long-term. And as such, I believe in XYZ in part for being one of the largest holders of Bitcoin worldwide
Bulls always looking for one more fix. XYZ is coming, and it's going to pump! Right now they all seem to think reopening the government, or SC ruling against tariffs - those are their big fantasy market movers. It's sad, really. Nothing is saving this disaster. You may get a few more pumps from market stupidity, but those are the times to buy puts, not calls.
Bought NXT, RDDT, and XYZ today
Good lord do I hate the fact that I owned XYZ for far too long. What a piece of shit stock by a piece of shit CEO. Sell all, just accept the loss. This thing is fucking pointless.
Noticed XYZ popping up all over r/wallstreetbets — the recent momentum is real: a strong run-up after bullish earnings and a breakout pattern. The crowd sentiment is electric, with many calling a short-squeeze setup and hyping potential catalysts like new product launches or institutional rotation. That said, the volatility here is extreme and fundamentals still shaky — so yes, the upside could be big, but the risk of a sharp flip-side remains very present.
Tbh I don’t give a damn, stocks are now feelings and not based on logic anymore. But to give an answer on why from my side: I find it very intriguing how a dude magically says XYZ and the stock pumps. Makes promises and stock goes up. Makes another outrageous plan… gets approved… and we get the same cycle of false promises and manipulation. This dude is going to be written about in history books. I find the dude and his way of working very interesting, while I strongly disagree with the ethics behind it.
Being absoolutely slaughtered on my XYZ calls
Currently holding 3k shares of PYPL I’m bullish on it and just bought some XYZ on this dip
Wow. Glad I got out of XYZ. Get Jack Dorsey out
Anyone playing XYZ earnings?
Imagine XYZ stock once Dorsey admits he invented Corn.
My take: we're in a recession, you're just not seeing it or being told that because there's so much money in the stock market that it's essentially acting as its own economy at this point. The more detached the valuation of XYZ company got during this last bull run, the more it is going to dive when q3 earnings will surely be missed and bring perspective back into the conversation. I expect this downturn of ai/quantum to continue until a few weeks past q3 earnings when said stocks have returned to historically normal levels, at which point they will bump up again, but probably slower and not as insane. I'm planning for them to drop to within 10-20% of tariff day lows. The government starting back up will have little effect on most stocks except healthcare, and whatever else Medicaid is funding If tariffs get overturned today by Scotus the bump will be minimal and short lived. Too many other issues going on with the economy. Trump, Lutnik, and Bessent have really done a number on the economy. Lowering rates .5% in December will do minimal, and we won't see big gains until Trump replaces Powell with one of his sycophants in the spring. At which point bottoming out of rates will spur the market, but ultimately be it's downfall in the 24-48 month window. Just my predictions. Good luck to all. Cheers
XYZ up or down? ABNB up or down? my port up or down?
I’ve said this from day 1. There was no plan of actions for the tariffs meaning they never intended to use them. Somehow it would’ve been to obviously corrupt to just pocket the cash so they needed to put it on SCOTUS. Take a look at all the donors, they’d benefit the most from the tariffs. To me, the best decision would be for the courts to say the tariffs were illegal but a cooperations cannot be reimbursed because they are legally people or that it is not in the courts belief that could not be held to a certain standard to ensure that all tariffs are reimbursed. The money is to be put into a trust managed by a non-partisan committee. The funds can be allocated for healthcare, education, first time homebuyers or first time businesses (with business plan approval). All funds need to be dispersed with x amount of time. Funds cannot be distributed to XYZ (this requires some thinking to avoid all the PPP fraud) Essentially I would use that money to help the people that lost their healthcare, lost their SNAP, are trying to buy a home for their family, trying to get an education…and not the people that want to buy an AirBNB or a new hot rod/yacht.
Entire market red. "WHY IS XYZ MEME STOCK DOWN!!" Some of you need to buy bonds or something.
How are you able to pick the stocks with that level of allocation? What if you pick the wrong ones? I picked PYPL and XYZ 5 years ago.
The universal cope meme of your modern super retard bull. Levels not seen since XYZ. Where XYZ will steadily increase as they need more cope.
It was always been vibes. You must be new to markets if you think they are somehow "different" these days. \--- Good fundamentals lead people to have good vibes. IE: "Shit, this company just executed XYZ! The financials suggest its drastically undervalued! BUY!!!" <- that's vibes. You only bought because you felt good about it. The fundamentals \*made\* you feel good - but you still only bought because you felt good about it.
Congressman XYZ is hard at work for (place you don't live) X 25
I prefer XYZ despite people's hazing
Is XYZ stock a good investment? No I will not do any research myself and instead blindly trust the person who replies to me with the biggest text box.
I love how conservatives are like "you want MY tax dollars for XYZ social program? I dont want to pay for that!" As though they're gonna get a tax refund check if the program gets canceled lol. Bro, you pay the same taxes either way, it's just about whether the money helps people or goes to the rich.
I'm not sure what stock you're buying thousands of shares of for 50K, but broadly the strategy you're talking about is called a "buy/write", where you buy 100 shares of XYZ stock and immediate sell or "write" a covered call against those shares. I've done this a few times but it isn't a core strategy. An important consideration is that the covered call potentially limits your upside on the 100 shares of XYZ.
Early exercise doesn't actually alter the defined-risk constraints on a vertical spread, as I'll explain below, but you are in the ballpark for a real problem that could happen, which is at expiration when the expiration price is between the two strikes of specifically a vertical call credit spread. More on that later. > How often does this occur in the market place? Is it a randomised or predictable event? It's a function of a few factors, like days to expiration, moneyness (more ITM is higher probability of early assignment), interest rate changes, dividend payments (for short calls), and a couple other things. Suffice to say that, far from expiration, say 15 days or more, and OTM, and puts rather than calls, the probability is close to zero. It is also very much predictable, regardless of whether puts or calls. This will never happen by surprise to anyone that is sufficiently literate about how options work and that keeps up with current events, like ex-dividend dates. And even if it does happen, it's almost always to your benefit! As I will demonstrate below. > If the Buyer had chosen to exercise, would most brokers notify the Seller before assigning the option? If yes, how much time does the Seller have (to buy back the Lots sold) before it’s automatically assigned? Yes, sellers are notified of assignments **after the fact**. So there is negative time to do anything, because it will have already happened by the time you get notified. Again, not to worry, this is all to the good. > If the Seller misses the assignment period notice (if there even is), and his portfolio does not have the funds (liquid or illiquid), will the broker just liquidate his portfolio to cover for the assignment? That depends on the circumstances. A broker does have the right to liquidate to cover liabilities, but there is a process known as a "margin call" that will take place to do that and you'll have time to react and make things right. There's no reason to panic, as you will be sitting in a very favorable position when this all goes down. In fact, your broker may congratulate you on your good fortune and give you a float on your liability to close out the trade, since it will clearly be net profitable (see below). For the sake of argument, let's say an early assignment does happen on your credit spread. We'll use your example of 100 spot vs 85/80 put credit spread, to keep things OTM and simpler. Let's just stick with one lot also. * First, you win! Getting assigned on the short 85p means you get to keep all the opening premium. That is pure profit. * Second, you get to buy 100 shares for $85/share, which is $15/share below the market price. You win again, as your cost basis is $85 **less the premium sold on the put**. If that was $1/share, you have an unrealized gain of $16/share on your assigned 100 shares. Yay! * The long 80p is neither here nor there. You can sell to close it or just let it expire, since it's far OTM and probably not worth much. The opening cost of that put is a drag on your net profit, but as long as it was less than $16/share, which it ought to be, you still net a win. * Finally, you sell the shares on the open market and, assuming the spot price stays above your cost basis, you realize a nice profit. Notice it's all profit, profit, profit on your end. Given that, what buyer in their right mind would give you all that profit opportunity for free? They wouldn't, which is why early assignment on far-dated OTM put credit spreads has close to zero chance of happening. **BUT you don't have the funds to pay for 1000 shares!** you cry. True, but as I said, your broker isn't blind to the situation. They can look at the structure and the credits/debits and see you are going to come out way ahead on the deal, so they aren't going to be too upset. As long as you communicate promptly your intent to sell your shares to cover the margin call, all will be good. In fact, they will probably offer to do that for you. ---------------------------- Now, let's talk about a situation that really is worth worrying about. A call credit spread at expiration. Suppose you have the same 85/80c strikes, but in calls, and the spot price at expiration is 84.95 instead of 100. The 80c is the short call. The 80c will be assigned and you'll be short 100 shares of XYZ and will receive $80,000 in cash. **The 85c will expire worthless**. That's where the trouble starts. It won't be exercised-by-exception at expiration, because it's not ITM. Your leg for insurance will have failed to protect you. So you are exposed to the entire liability of the assigned short call. Being short 1000 shares that have an **unrealized loss** vs the spot price of 84.95 is a much bigger problem from your broker's perspective, because you can't cover the liability of the margin call simply by closing the shares position. You sold for 80/share and have to buy to cover for 84.95/share, leaving you in debt for -4.95/share. You'd have to **add cash** to the account to cover the difference. Worse, if the assignment happened Friday night and XYZ goes nuts over the weekend, opening Monday at $100/share, now your unrealized loss is much larger and could continue to grow. That sets off alarm bells at your broker and you will be pressured to PAY UP RIGHT NOW! With all the usual threats of collection agencies and garnering of wages and so forth. Fortunately, there is an **easy and foolproof way to avoid this situation entirely**. And that is simply to never hold call credit spreads through expiration. Always close or roll them before they expire and this can never happen.
I bought some. I don't think it's the last we'll see of Jack Dorsey. A few weeks ago when everyone was convinced the dollar was dead and gold would be revalued I heard talk about XYZ. If crypto is ever adopted more mainstream for payments, I think xyz could have a lot of potential.
What would you say about $XYZ
OP: What do you think about [XYZ stock]? Commenter: Its a fuckin shit you dum ass. Why would you bi it!!!’ OP: Wtf, you were wrong, and I lost money! Commenter: Well you shoulder have listened two me lol
Only advantage XYZ has is higher growth but PYPL consistently generates profit plus huge buyback program and now dividends for the first time ever
"winners" 5 years ago were PYPL, EV stocks, solar, genomics, XYZ, since everyone here talked about those, also I had PLTR since their IPO and the stock did nothing for years...They were pushing the market to highs. The only right ones you could know were MSFT, AAPL, META, TSLA, AMZN, and the rest of the MAG7.
Block Inc. ticker is no longer SQ. The ticker is now XYZ and it’s a buy. Way better than PayPal…
So I take it you've never placed a single trade. Your buy and sell orders aren't associated except for being for the exact same option. In your example, you bought an XYZ call expiring on \[date\] for $1.35. So you select that call in your trading platform and click SELL to CLOSE. You choose a limit order, make it GTC (good til canceled), and set a limit price of $2.02 ($1.35 x 1.5 for a 50% profit). Choose a broker that offers paper trading so you can learn how this works without risking real money.
" but that its Cash App business benefits " True, but there's not much of a moat to that. In a year where the S and P is up 17.5%, XYZ is down 10% and PYPL is down 18%. IMHO, there are years where if a growth story isn't doing well then the primary consideration should be what's wrong with it/"maybe this isn't the growth story I thought it was/was advertised to be." This is one of those years. For all the discussion of Cash App and Venmo, PYPL is down 62% over the last 5 years and XYZ -50%. Cathie is up 56% YTD and yet still is negative over the last 5 years. She held all the "hot in 2020" things way too long and the Ark funds eventually took more than $22B in realized losses, including 1.5B on TDOC. If you look at ARKG, you literally see a fund that does very well during times of hype (2020) and is a disaster when fundamentals matter (worst in the category 2021/2022/2024.) If you had a stretch of years where hype was in short supply and people had to rely on fundamentals, I could see one or more Ark funds eventually close.
Thanks for hanging on to reddit for all this time haha. So this was my buy - QTY DATE STRIKE TYPE PRICE-TYPE LIMIT PRICE ACTION 1 XYZ $29 CALL LIMIT $1.35 BUY So you saying I should place another order to close that looks like below - QTY DATE STRIKE TYPE PRICE-TYPE LIMIT PRICE ACTION 1 XYZ(Same date?) $29(any value here?) CALL LIMIT $1.95 SELL What should be date/strike here? How does the brokerage know the second order is linked to the first? I mean what if someone just places the second order.
Your Bid is your buyers Your Ask is the sellers A strike price (also known as an exercise price) is a key term in options trading. It refers to the predetermined price at which the holder of an options contract can buy (in the case of a call option) or sell (in the case of a put option) the underlying asset, such as a stock, index, or commodity, if they choose to exercise the option. Key Points: Context: Options give the buyer the right, but not the obligation, to exercise at the strike price by the expiration date. The seller (writer) of the option is obligated if exercised. How it works: For a call option: If the market price of the underlying asset rises above the strike price, the option is "in the money" and profitable to exercise (buy low at strike, sell high in the market). For a put option: If the market price falls below the strike price, it's "in the money" (sell high at strike, buy low in the market). Types of strike prices: At-the-money (ATM): Strike equals the current market price. In-the-money (ITM): Strike is favorable for immediate exercise (e.g., call strike below market price). Out-of-the-money (OTM): Strike is unfavorable for exercise (e.g., call strike above market price). Example: Suppose you buy a call option on XYZ stock with a strike price of $50, expiring in one month. If XYZ rises to $60 by expiration, you can exercise to buy shares at $50 (profiting $10 per share, minus the option premium paid). If it stays at $45, the option expires worthless. Strike prices are set when the option is created and come in standard increments (e.g., $5 for stocks). The premium (cost of the option) varies based on how far the strike is from the current price, time to expiration, and volatility. If you're trading options, always consider the Greeks (like delta and theta) for deeper analysis.
I hold 1 million shares of stock XYZ and I hereby increase its price target from $10 to $200.
XYZ gonna moon Cathy Gave me wood
you're probably right at larger scales (eg 10k+ lines) but so far i haven't run into this problem. and with the current pace of LLM development, i don't foresee codebase size being a bottleneck for more than 1-2 more years max. in any case, LLMs are already able to hold much larger codebases in memory than 99% of devs. i can copy-paste 5k lines of code into gpt-5 with a quick prompt 'add feature XYZ' and it spits out the solution in under 1 minute. its already superhuman and becoming even more so.
The first step in becoming successful, besides the great education on options, is to have set your exit before you even enter a trade. Typically, I like to exit a profitable trade at 80% and exit around 50% loss. So, if you buy a call for $2.00, 80% profit would be at $3.60. The loss of 50% would be at $1.00. I'm not saying these percentages are hard coded, but you need to have some metric. If you have a thesis, meaning "I thing stock XYZ is going to 200", then model what the option would be at that price and place your exit there.
IMO – Knowing that institutions, market makers, hedge funds monitor everything posted in these stock trading groups is important. They track tens of thousands of positions publicly shared by inexperienced traders and use that data to their advantage, not yours, since they hold most of the market-moving power I shake my head when I read things like “The shorts are getting killed with these pumps.” In reality, they’re about to likely profit more by shorting additional XYZ as it rises, then cashing in when it so often dumps. It’s the retail traders who try to short these penny stock pumps who usually end up losing large, not the professionals so much, IMO Most retail traders don’t short penny stocks; that’s mostly done by those who can read order flow, make markets, and analyze threads like these. Just one mans opinion and NOT TRADING ADVICE
If you have 10K in cash you will have 10K in buying power (BP). The BP can be used as collateral to sell options. A naked put or call requires about 20% of the notional value as collateral. For example, you can sell 1 XYZ 100 cash secured put but you can sell 5 naked puts. If the put is assigned, you can buy 20 K of stock on margin with the 10K. You will be in trouble if you have sold 5 naked puts. You can do that at any broker - but you need approval to sell naked options. You can use the 10K in BP to sell spreads to achieve a greater “leverage”. But you will need approval to sell spreads. The approval level for naked options is higher than that for spreads. The rule is the same at any broker.
PYPL up 13% whole XYZ is down, interesting
No. That is just an impression. yahoo finance keeps printing articles 'Buffet just sold 'XYZ' lets all panic and get out of the market". It's like every 3 weeks or so.
I feel that 100%, I have to basically condition myself every damn day my portfolio doesn't rip to be like, "I'm in XYZ for this reason and I just need to wait". It works like 80% of the time but I still get antsy and flip a position here or there. It's a mental thing.
You can't daytrade part-time. Daytrading is a bunch of sitting around all day waiting for one or another of a few intra-day patterns to set up and then pulling the trigger and either it pays or stops you out. It's not "we're all gonna buy XYZ today at 10:00am." I daytraded in the early 2000s and it was about 20 people in a subscription chat room with everybody monitoring patterns and news and calling out potential trades. I don't know if that exists anymore or not. Learning setups is easy, it's pulling the trigger and letting the trade do its thing when there's real money on the line that can't be taught.
One time I would argue it’s okay to sell covered calls is when you’re trying to reduce a concentrated position in your portfolio. Example: you retire from company XYZ and have $5million in XYZ stock from an employee stock plan and you don’t want to sell it and pay cap gains on the whole thing. Maybe you sell covered calls at ~20% above the current price. That way, if the price is hit and the call gets executed, you covered the taxes with that additional gain. Note, this isn’t actually any more tax efficient than simply selling and buying something diversified. But it can get people past the mental barrier that stops them from diversifying for fear of taxes. They feel they are coming out even because the investment gain negated out the taxes.
Hop in this XYZ guys it’s breaking out over 81.50. Weekly contracts moving very well
Looks like XYZ is about to break out
You’re doing great imho. If I could point out one main thing that I have learned about stocks or crypto past few years, it would be: If I start seeing hype posts like *“Buy XYZ it’s gonna moon”* on Reddit, it’s usually like hours before taking a huge dip and most of the times, there is no rebound.
I did this with railroads, utilities, fintech and lost money. Companies like XYZ and CNR
Look, I tried looking for that ad I saw on YouTube a couple of days ago, to post it here, but I couldn't find it. It was legit a crash dispute lawyer, dressed as a rancher, telling you "AI is smarter than a snake", and that he uses AI to compare car crashes and get you the highest payouts. I think the bubble is about to pop. Much like the net dot com bubble, the technology is incredible and isn't going anywhere but the financial side of it right now is absolutely unbalanced, we are investing trillions of dollars, let alone burning the energy output of Belgium, without having found a way to make real profits yet, with this technology. We need a bubble to clean the crappy half a dozen of new companies that pop out every week with billion dollar evaluations because they "made a deal with XYZ about AI".
$GPUS has the possibility of following the path of $IREN which does the same thing (cloud and crypto). Crypto will still be profitable for a while I think. I don't own much crypto, I'm HODL-ing some XRP to see what happens in 25 years. But, as Elon pointed out, Bitcoin (crypto at large too) has an underlying asset of energy expenditures. I like the idea behind that. "It took $XYZ to mine (frame it as manufacture) these Bitcoins so the value is $XYZ". Its not dissimilar from saying it costs XYZ to make this barrel of gas so its value is XYZ amount. Anyway, at the crypto halving rate that is due to halve in 2028 the current mining reward is 3 BTC, by 2028 it's 1.5 BTC. Each coin essentially costs something like 70k in electricity to mine last I knew. I believe that's it's intrinsic minimum value. The question is profitability on top of that minimum. Even if the bottom fell out on it, I think it'd come back. That is until enough of it is lost in lost wallets to be nearly unusable. BTC proponents will say it can be broken down to parts of coins forever. I disagree. There's good scarcity and then there's too far for it to be useful or meaningful. Back to the halving. The 1.5 BTC I think is a grey area for mining profitability. The .75 in 2032 will require new levels of mining efficiency and mega corporation miners to continue (possibly quantum computing which itself, if that happens and makes mining too easy changes things but is probably 2035-2050). Luckily too we'll be down to mining the last whole Bitcoin from 2040 to 2140. So, I think cloud data centers that also mine Bitcoin or crypto in general is still a good idea for their profitability. They've diversified their revenue through mining and cloud and AI services. GPUS is about to divest from their VC arm and let that VC person go do his thing and they'll do their thing. GPUS profitability can happen with mining and the Nvidia powered processing they're also set to offer next year. If they start selling the Bitcoin they accumulated they can probably get to neutral on profits vs losses very soon. At worst they can raid their treasury to stay afloat, but should consider not holding that Bitcoin or at least only hold till it's breaking 125k solidly again.
27M, I don't even know how to start but I've made some mistakes and need help. I started investing in the last post-correction bull market of 2020 and thought this was easy as a college sophomore. Made lots of money without having a clue about stocks. Then the 2022 bear market brought my portfolio down 50% and some stocks never recovered. I bought 'good' individual stocks back then and it failed (XYZ Block, NIO nio, clean energy, arkg genomics). However, I kept buying the dip and recovered the entire portfolio. However, I pulled Berkshire after he did by selling at the top this year in February. Got a new job and was very heavy cash (80%+). Market corrected and I didn't buy. I regret it alot everyday and could have made over 50k+ if I didn't sell. Historically, there has always been a 5%+ correction that I wait for every 6 months. That didn't happen this year after April. Idk what to do and the money is losing value with inflation every day. I'm falling behind. I want to buy a home, save for a family and kids, and save for retirement. I have a matched 401k, maxed out Roth IRA. What do I do? Buying VOO today means I might not get to buy a home or have a family if it starts crashing. I also can't be cash. How would I allocate my life savings? If there is a crash, I'm saved and I can invest all my life savings into VOO and forget about it. I can hold it 10 year+ but not more than that. I plan to hold the retirement into VOO, QQQM, and VXUS but there has been no correction to buy it.
Basically covered calls are where you sell call options against 100 shares of a stock that you own for some amount of money. Think of call options as insurance, since it gives the buyer of your call option the right (but not the obligation) to buy 100 shares of a stock that you own for a specific amount before a specific date. To give a basic example, say you own 100 shares of $XYZ and it’s trading for $5, so you sell a call option for $50 that says the buyer of the option can buy 100 shares from you for $7/share before market close on 10/31. Since it’s trading for $5, they won’t “exercise” the option and buy 100 shares from you for $7/share. However, if $XYZ rose to $10 tomorrow, they could exercise the option and buy those 100 shares for $700 in total, even though it is trading for $10 on the market. Even though you technically made money you are capping your gains, since instead of selling those 100 shares at market price for $1000, you’re selling them for $700 instead and missing out on $300 in gains. Technically since you have the $50 from selling the call option, you have $250 less than you would have if you didn’t sell the option. From the perspective of the buyer, they paid you $750 in total when all was said and done for the 100 shares, and now they can sell those shares for $1000 in total, making $250 in profit. However, if $XYZ doesn’t go above $7 by market close on 10/31 then you would keep the 100 shares and the $50 to do whatever you like. Do not do this, though. While it is a valid strategy, options contracts are incredibly complex and will fuck you very, very quickly if you don’t know what you’re doing. In the case of $BYND, the 100 shares you have could significantly drop in value. If it drops to $2.20 tomorrow, you will lose even more money despite selling covered calls. Covered calls should really only be done if you don’t mind holding the stock and eventually parting ways with it, and you really shouldn’t hold $BYND. I know that it’s technically not a loss until you sell, but with that mindset you could be holding $BYND for years and possibly watch it drop to $0, losing it all. You need to do a lot of research before even thinking about dabbling in options. That being said, there are two resources (that specifically go over covered calls) to check out if you’d like to start to learn more about them. I’d post the links, but the automod doesn’t like YouTube links. Benjamin - Highly informative and s-tier shitposting InTheMoney - beginner friendly explanations They go over a lot more than just covered calls, so I highly recommend watching all of their content if you are interested in options. Also, if you decide to do options trading down the road, I highly recommend selling options and not buying them.
Yahoo Finance AI blurbs are hilarious “XYZ is making headlines with a 20% surge over the last 2 weeks” on a day when it’s down over 10% is pure copium. They just scrape data points and headlines and fill the rest in with fluff. Wall Street mad libs style
Seemingly interesting time for a dump & halt when SSB's is starting to get ALOT of people shilling for other companies that are not BYND... "Get out of BYND is buy XYZ instead". Sus.
If you see anyone say anything even close to this “XYZ is the next BYND” They are poor, and they desperately need you to bail them out
I’m a loser at individual picks, of all the moves that could have went right I picked the one wrong one. XYZ. 4 years ago. I checked the Nasdaq and I could have picked anything else on the list at that market cap and win. No one beats the VOO
Because the market is not based on reality, it’s based on PERCEIVED reality. This is why finance news doesn’t cover financial problems or issues until the company files for bankruptcy. They don’t want to “spook the market” because everyone is happier when they’re making money. The market is nothing but algos. As long as money continues to come in, which is every two weeks from 401Ks, the market THINKS that everything is good still, economy still strong, etc. As long as government keeps injecting money into the system, the algos will think it must be a good bet and XYZ company is strong, therefore the industry must also be strong, which means every company in this sector must be worth more than it is right now… number goes up. Until, one day, the money stops coming in. Then the market looks for realistic numbers to justify prices, it then attains true price discovery. And THEN the correction happens. And the finance news covers the collapse like a surprise and somebody somewhere must’ve done something wrong when, in reality, the signs and reality were there the entire time but the algos just didn’t know it. The longer this market goes on, the higher it goes, the greater the correction when it’s time to find that realistic price. Gold is the only true barometer for inflation. Whereas the stock market doesn’t care about inflation. It actually likes inflation because inflation means increasing numbers and numbers like going up. But when unemployment rises, 401Ks have less money to put in, and when inflation rises and unemployment rises and people start dipping into 401Ks to get by (which they are) then there’s a lot less money coming in and the algos will spot that and make corrections. But if that’s beginning to happen, then government steps in and starts bailing out companies or injecting industries, and it’s really just an attempt to fool the market.
XYZ (20% of portfolio) and AMZN Then, Japanese real estate companies (non rural residential, so unaffected by the population decline): $2970.T, $3498.T, $2998.T, $3482.T Most people can’t even buy them with their brokerage. You need a brokerage like IBKR that does international. Japan and especially Japanese real estate is accelerating out of one of the largest financial bubbles in history. It’s the definition of value investing.
Fuck nuclear energy. It’s not safe. Why? Because humans are involved, as is Mother Nature. Every time “it’s going to be different this time”, then something bad happens, then it’s “well that’s because the idiots did XYZ wrong!”. Accepting that nuclear energy doesn’t happen in a vacuum and is NOT idiot proof, is accepting that it is unacceptably dangerous.
Did they transfer your positions? This is basically simple math. If you had 100 shares of ABC and 100 shares of XYZ , if those shares transfered nothing was lost ?
Yeah, totally get this. Reddit’s great for learning concepts and hearing different takes, but once people start posting “I’m all in on XYZ,” it’s basically entertainment. Most of the legit investors here never brag about positions — they talk process, not tickers. I treat stock posts like restaurant reviews from anonymous accounts: maybe useful, but you’d be crazy to bet big on one.
I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'm personally not. A lot of that type of volume is caused via MM's who take options / XYZ / etc and use it for quick hedging in and out. I'm seeing 85,000 volume on the 24c's today, but the OI didn't change. Yahoo finance, so take it with a grain of salt. \--- The signals on the options chains / volume / OI is honestly not the greatest signal. I tend to ignore it personally.
I can agree, depending on the strikes, with your point about ICs. Overall they are neutral spreads, so you don’t necessarily have to be right about the direction of the underlying (again, depending on the strikes), but you do have to be right about how far the underlying moves in relation to your strikes. So not necessarily “which way will it go?” if the strikes are far enough OTM, but instead “how far will it go in either direction?” This is true for other spreads too, again, depending on the strikes. However I still disagree with your point about covered calls. I think the best way to illustrate my point may be to be very clear about the specifics in question. In the world of options, one could buy them and one could sell them. On the seller side of the equation, one could either sell them in a way that protects themselves in the event that the sold option gets exercised, or sell them in a way that leaves them unprotected in the event the sold option gets exercised. In other words, one could sell a call option with the protection of owning the underlying stock, (referred to as “covered”), or one could sell a call option without the protection of owning the underlying stock (referred to as “naked”). Taking this information into account, let’s imagine there are two investors who want to sell a call option on stock XYZ. They both select the same strike, the same expiration, and both collect $100 in premium for selling the call. The only difference is investor A already owns shares of stock XYZ but investor B does not. Investor A’s sold call is protected (covered call) and investor B’s call is unprotected (naked call). Now imagine that at expiration stock XYZ drops $200 in value. Starting with the naked call seller, would you say that the investor lost money “on the sale of the call option” because the underlying stock dropped in value more than what was collected in premium? No. The investor kept all $100 of the premium from selling that call. The stock decline had zero effect on the outcome of the sold call option income that was retained. Applying the same logic, let’s look at the covered call seller. Would you say that the investor lost money “on the sale of the call option” because the underlying stock dropped in value more than what was collected in premium? Again, no. The investor kept all $100 of the premium from selling that call. The stock decline had zero effect on the outcome of the sold call option income that was retained. That’s my point. The proceeds from the sale of the call option, in both scenarios, was not impacted by the decline of the underlying stock. Therefore, whether selling covered calls or naked calls, neither investor “lost money” SPECIFICALLY on the sale of their call options. The loss that you’re describing was on the ownership of the asset, not the call option itself. You could even say the loss was on the overall account balance because of the drop in asset price - but again, that would have happened despite selling the call option, not because of selling the call option. In fact, comparing an investor owning XYZ vs one owning it and selling the call - the investor selling the call would come out ahead in that scenario because he has the gains from the call premium to offset the overall unrealized loss. Buy and hold investor would have lost the full $200 (unrealized), whereas the investor who sold the covered call against that position would have only lost a net of $100 thanks to the premium. Ultimately I think investors need to remember that ownership of the stock is a prerequisite for selling a covered call, but that is not the covered call itself. It’s a protection classification of selling the call option (protected vs unprotected).
You trying to insult anyone’s intelligence but not understanding how context of an argument works is priceless. You framed your argument as people who are the most stubborn egotistical and selfish people of all time do XYZ and used not getting vaccinated as your example. If you didn’t think the vaccines were safe and effective, then you would already know the decision to refrain was not out of selfishness or lack of empathy for others. Clearly you’re projecting so put the fries in the bag and have fun cleaning the frosty machine!
I think most people care about portfolio performance over one position. Not sure why anyone would only focus on position when evaluating their investing strategy. But the same thing can apply to one stock. Say I buy 100 shares of XYZ at $100. Then the price declines and I buy another 100 shares at $70. I manage to sell the second lot at $80, I made a profit! Yay! However the stock position is still at a loss. Keep doing this or anything similar and you will go broke taking profits.
No, I'm assuming that you count the profit/loss on the sale of a stock based solely on that stock. If I sell 200 shares of XYZ for 200, when I bought it for 100, that's 100 profit/share that I make *on that stock.* The overall portfolio may suffer losses, but if they only sell one, that's the only one that dictates profit/loss.
No it’s a put option so… You’re essentially forcing the option writer (seller) to buy the shares from you at the strike price. For example: • You own a put option on 100 shares of XYZ with a strike price of $50. • The stock is now trading at $35. • You exercise your put. You sell 100 shares of XYZ for $50 each, even though they’re only worth $35 in the market. That’s a $15 per share gain (minus the cost of the option itself) If you exercise a call, you’d have to buy 100 shares of the stock at your strike price per option contract…. So if you bought one option and the strike price is $10, you’d have to have 100 x $10 share = $1,000 To exercise it, you’d only exercise if your options are in the money, so you’d own stock at a lower price than what it trades for in the market, and could hold it, or immediately sell it to lock in a profit.
I noticed a stock about 6 months ago getting promoted like crazy. $20B market cap. Saw their headquarters was 15 minutes away. Drove over and found an office in an industrial complex strip. Google listing for the address had four one star Google reviews saying something similar to "I've been working with this company since John first started and I've never actually seen an actual product." "Headquarters" had no sign. Just business front in a five shop strip. Front door has a white piece of paper with a note taped to the inside that said "FedEx deliveries to XYZ company, use mailbox on side door." Peaked in the windows and inside a big carpeted office looking space with three desks with computers. Completely empty otherwise, like 6,000 sq ft floor plan with three desks. I still see the company promoted every six months or so - especially on WSB adjacent subs "they're finally ramping up production."
Shitty stocks updated 2.0: AMZN, KMB, CLX, ADBE, CMCSA, META, LULU, PYPL, SNAP, XYZ, BA, BULL, KLAR
Shitty stocks updated: AMZN, KMB, CLX, ADBE, CMCSA, META, LULU, PYPL, SNAP, XYZ, BA
I propose we ban people who say HOLY SHIT $XYZ so you go check and it's up 3.2% as a microcap, go get fucked nerd, no one cares.
You sure can! The first consultation is typically a meet-and-greet setting, where you can share your situation and goals - then the CFP can share his/her approach to working with clients, disclose their fees, describe next steps (if you're interested in continuing). In most cases, a CFP likely won't charge you for a single consultation like you're describing. That's because you'll need to actually _hire_ the CFP as your advisor before getting specific, detailed recommendations (and the CFP will tell you that, too). Once you receive actionable financial _advice_ from a CFP, that's where the rubber meets the road. Otherwise, you'll likely have a good discussion that results in some broad thoughts/direction for your situation, but nothing specifically _actionable_ without a professional advisor. Plenty of meetings end with no firm commitment and general takeaways like: "You should consult an estate attorney, and I can recommend one if you'd like," or "seems like you need time to _ABC_ and might want to consider _XYZ_ before you're ready to hire an advisor," etc. You'll be in good hands with a CFP, whether it's for one brief consultation or beyond. Good luck my friend! (Happy to continue answering questions, although please note I am _NOT_ a Certified Financial Planner and cannot provide financial advice)
If I held XYZ investment at retarded leverage, I too could have rolled the dice between full port liquidation and retirement to a beachfront property in California.
They don’t. Just increase liquidity of the stock and perceived affordability to investors. 100 shares of XYZ at $100 becomes 200 shares at $50.
before the broader meltdown did anyone see a reason for why $XYZ was underperforming? i didn't see any news from overnight that would be negative
Do you know much about stocks? Just plain old stocks? I don't want to talk down to you, but I would've thought it was clear from my derivation. So let me try explaining it a different way: Say there was a stock **XYZ** that you could buy for **$100**. Then say that you met some guy in a trenchcoat in a seedy bar who said, "Hey buddy, how would you like to mostly/kind of/sort of 'own' XYZ, but it'll only cost ya **20** bucks? And get this: if XYZ stock goes up 10 buckd, *your* thing will go up 8 bucks. Whaddya say, you want some?" Would you buy it from him? *Probably not!* And yet the stock market offers us that kind of deal every day across most of the tickers we'd be interested in (only it doesn't wear a trenchcoat or hang out in dive bars). Because that's what an option is: a way to "kind of" own XYZ, **but for much less money.** Now let's go back and look at the guy's "deal": If **XYZ** goes up 10 bucks, that's a 10% return if we bought at 100. Right? **10%**. But what if we *had* bought the "stock-like thing" for **20** bucks and it really *did* go up **8** bucks when XYZ went up 10? What's the ROI on *that* trade? It's $8 gain divided by $20 invested, equals **40%.** 40% is a lot better than 10%, isn't it? **That's leverage**. We used **less money** to make *80% of what XYZ made*, and our Return On Investment was 4 times bigger. Does that help?
Lmao. Yahoo is annoying me every day with ‘XYZ stock is at an all time high’ notifications nearly every day…. MOFO managed to inverse SPY.
I replied in detail about how leverage works and options gain value. To your other questions, 1. Yes, options can gain and lose value before getting to the strike/target. Think of the option price as markets opinion on probability. If a stock moves hard in the direction of the strike, market might price the option very high because the trajectory early is the stock will go way past the strike by expiration so the market will pay a high value. A day later the stock could trade sideways and now market doesn’t think nearly as highly that the stock will reach strike, and drops the option price a ton. Sometimes stock will go up, but not fast enough, and market will drop the option price. Lots of volatility there, which is the risk in options. 2. Yes, you can sell the option whenever you want up to expiration. If it goes up early, sell it after 10 min if you want. 3. Market prices in the expected move. So if market thinks XYZ is going to $105 by 10/31, and is trading at $100 today, they will price the option at $5 per contract ($500, $5x100 leverage). So you have to understand you are making a play for a move that outperforms market expectation.
Here is a quick example, just showing how leverage works. No expiration dates for now. $100 make believe stock XYZ. To buy 100 shares of XYZ, you need $10,000. Or you see a $102 call option instead, which is priced at $75, and you buy that instead. Your calls are the “option to buy”, or maybe easier to think “the ability to buy if you want to” XYZ at $102. And calls come as a contract for 100 shares each (each call is right to buy a bundle of 100 shares) Stock goes up 4%, hits $104 per share. Your ability to buy XYZ at $102 (aka call) has value. You can either exercise (use) your ability to buy to purchase 100 shares of XYZ at $102 or sell your call to someone else. Let’s be real, you bought the call because you are a broke retard who doesn’t have $10k to use your call, so you sell it. Otherwise you probably just bought the shares to begin with. How much is that call now worth? Well in theory $200 because someone could take your call and buy up 100 shares at $102 ($10,200) and sell them right away at market price if $104 ($10,400). But the buyer isn’t a retard, so they won’t pay $200 to you and make $0, so they offer you $150 instead for the guaranteed $50 profit for themselves. You just made a 100% gain ($75 to $150) and doubled your money on a 4% move on the underlying. That is leverage in action. XYZ goes to $112? Now it’s worth $1000 ($112-$102 x 100), someone pays you $750. You now have a 1000% gainer on a 12% move. Fuck yeah. Right up until XYZ goes down to $99, or even worse, goes up to $101 but you still lose everything because no one buys at $102 from you when market is $101. And now you’ve blown up your account and can post loss porn. It is certainly more complicated than that, and expiration introduces the need to nail the time frame, and markets are pricing in expected moves, and options can go up and down rapidly even before going in the money. This is a very over simplified version but hopefully shows the power of leverage in options.
Odd how neither of those things negates what I said. I said “I don’t like these things he said because of XYZ” and you said “do your research, he had a sons die of brain cancer from burn pits” wtf is that asinine correlation?
Next week you’ll be seeing “oh my god why didn’t I buy it last week before this thing really ripped up I can’t believe it was XYZ who bought it”. Personally I’m holding.
Im starting my company called XYZ and will only be offering 10 shares each worth 1.5M. Who wants to buy em?
it's only profitable as it's cyclic tho. The current people paying for everything are investors. Consumers are not paying for basically anything right now -- that's the big difference. Investors give company XYZ money, who gives it to company Y who gives it to Z. Basically OpenAI has to start generating real hundreds of billions of dollars in the next few years (FROM CONSUMERS) - otherwise the entire thing collapses. They have no sign of doing that in sight right now - just investors punting them money & they keep giving it to other AI companies on promises that 'we'll pay you in the future. Pinky promise!'
You’re actually not far off! Options are prediction markets, but unlike what most people think they don’t predict direction, they price variance. That nuances is very important. When Polymarket says “what’s the probability of X happening” options say “how violently could anything happen.” and not "how much up or down XYZ will move". And they not only look efficient, they are for the most part. You’re trading against a room full of market makers hedged to the teeth, so any easy edge is gone fast. One of the best known and well documented inefficiency left is in how implied volatility compares to realized volatility. If implied > realized, you’re overpaying for movement (good time to sell options). If implied < realized, you’re underpaying (good time to buy). Do not fool yourself: everytime you make an option trade you are expressing a view on the idea aboveand whether you are successful or not long term will greatly depend on your understanding of it. Good luck.
All personal finance is the same. Have emergency fund. Fund your 401k to not overpay your taxes. Auto invest weekly in VOO with regular money. Sell only when something urgent to pay for (that could be house for example), do this forever. Rome wasn’t built in a day. You will learn the optimizations eventually. The most important thing is to set a weekly then work to increase that weekly. Never rely on self discipline, set to auto weekly. Anything that helps you increase that weekly is your friend. Anything that provides friction to increasing that weekly is your enemy (like overthinking). I know many that have been successful with VOO and chill. And I know far more, that still running due diligence on XYZ meme stock. Some learn. Most don’t. Best of luck out there.
XYZ consolidation breakout in the works. Imo.