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Why do I get different Outputs out of an CJ? e.g I would send 0.1 in and get 0.05 and 0.003 and other small chunks. Should be the Output not be the same e.g 10 times 0.01 ? Now I can’t even merge my tx again… privacy would be lost.
Glad to see people on this sub who can say more than "just DCA bro". Warning about mixing cj with non-cj coins is important to know. I've seen that most folks believe coinjoining makes everything untraceable. Something to add is that cj can taint coins, irrespective of whether you mix cj with non-cj utxos. Foir example, attempting to deposit them on an exchange allows the exchange to ban or seize it (e.g. if compelled by some govt, maybe canada). The exchange simply traverses your utxo chain to see if they hit a cj address (which can be known, especially if reused), or if they notice an obvious CJ split pattern (e.g. 30 equal outputs). There were (still are?) in fact exchanges/platforms who do not accept cj coins ... Also, on mixing cj with non-cj utxos - people should also realize that if they do this they also reduce the anonymity of the mixing pool. By removing yourself from the mixing pool, there is now less uncertainty about the identity of the remaining participants.
Yes, that’s correct. If you’re mixing 3 bitcoin and the price is $30,000 per coin, then you would pay .15 btc ($4,500) just in Whirlpool fees plus the miner fee of 1 sat/vbyte if the MemPool is clear. CJ can get quite costly but the privacy may be worth it for those who need it most.
>Does it mean that CJ is quite expensive thing? If i wish to CJ for example few bitcoins that means i'll pay 5% of those btc+extra small miner fee(if mempool is clear). If btc cost 30000$ and i want to CJ 3 of them, that means i'll pay 4500$? Correct? wow
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Nope. I'm still finishing--just a few more classes. Going into law enforcement now though, and I am excited to pursue that. A law degree can help you get a lot of jobs besides just attorney work. Hoping to teach CJ at a university after I get the law degree, which I think I'll enjoy a lot. But there's nothing enjoyable about law school.
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I'm a recreational hypnotist. Honestly, it's easy. Part of it is believing in it. You've said it. I know the name of so and so, it'll hit me tonight. Try believing in it, saying maybe. It has helped friends remember where there keys are. Of course it's more fun if CJ thinks he's a Stegasaur. Ask around. A friend may be able to try.
Some kind of wallet or plug-in that does some local chainalysis to keep you from screwing up (remixing with your own KYC UTXOs, e.g.) when doing CoinJoins, or tells you if your UTXO is likely to be flagged on a KYC exchange Or greatly simplifies CoinJoin from user perspective. Like a mobile wallet with just “amount,” “send,” “receive” and the amount has percent KYC and percent CoinJoined. You can push one button to CJ a certain portion, and sent or received amounts are categorized appropriately
The document OP linked to seems to be a previous version. A more recent one reads more dystopian: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/CJ12-AM-719852_EN.pdf p44: (37a) […] Given that unhosted wallets do not fulfil any of the above criteria, Crypto-asset service providers should be prohibited from facilitating transfers of crypto-assets to such unhosted wallets. Crypto-asset service providers facilitating transfers to non-compliant crypto asset service providers or to unhosted wallets should be subject to administrative sanctions.
I think you’re right, they’re definitely best avoided. I wish I knew this a lot sooner! Therefore the best action to take to **fully** remove KYC seems to be to transfer KYC funds back to KYC exchange, exchange these funds to fiat (so as far as the exchange is aware, you now exclusively own fiat) then use said fiat to purchase non-KYC coins on Bisq…then perhaps to be on the safe side maybe even add a CJ or two before they end up in cold storage. Voila! This has been great and super educational for me, thanks so much again for being so generous with your time. I hope others will benefit from this too.
> In regards to your comment about KYCs - how would you suggest to best increase the anonymity set of individual UTXO sets after purchasing from a KYC exchange? I think my best advice would be to avoid KYC platforms altogether, if possible :) > Would it be KYC exchange > wallet > CJ > cold storage, for example? Or would it be beneficial to move to a CJ straight from the KYC exchange, or does it not matter? This sounds fine. You might go to coinjoin straight from the exchange, but it could increase the risk of your account being flagged for review/temporarily/permanently blocked by the exchange, but it's really just a guess from my side. Going through an additional wallet in-between might at least give you some plausible deniability, esp if you avoid making it look like self-transfer (straight away transferring the whole amount into a coinjoin etc).
Awesome! Glad I managed to get my head around the basic mechanics of the CJ. Thanks for the confirmation. It’s pretty incredible to me that the true plausible deniability of coins purchased from a KYC source can potentially be increased in perpetuity. This should be a privacy standard! In regards to your comment about KYCs - how would you suggest to best increase the anonymity set of individual UTXO sets after purchasing from a KYC exchange? Would it be KYC exchange > wallet > CJ > cold storage, for example? Or would it be beneficial to move to a CJ straight from the KYC exchange, or does it not matter?
Awesome! Glad I managed to get my head around the basic mechanics of the CJ. Thank you for the confirmation. In regards to the comment you made about KYC exchanges, if you were to CJ a large stack of KYC funds and never planned to ever send them back to a similar KYC fiat off-ramp, could the individual anonymity sets of these funds technically increase in perpetuity? If so, this is pretty incredible. Almost a staggering amount of potential plausible deniability for every UTXO set!
> So essentially the ‘plausible deniability’ aspect is almost exponentially increased after a CJ? Even if someone knew you had CJ’d, they would have to track and follow a trail of an extra 99 outputs (as well as your own) assuming every single one is also in fact yours, and then also track every other subsequent output from all 100 outputs? Yes, sounds like you got it right :) And keep in mind, you can do multiple rounds of coinjoins, so the anonymity set increases exponentially further, as you pointed out. > Or…wait…are the 100 outputs completely obfuscated from the initial 100 CJ inputs that you can see on the blockchain? "Obfuscated" is perhaps not the word I'd choose, as after all they're still seen on the blockchain.. "Unlinked" from previous inputs, I would say. Also keep in mind that coinjoin is neither a panacea (if you got bitcoin on a KYC platform, that platform still knows this fact, no matter how much coinjoin rounds you've done afterwards), and also easy to screw up later, f.ex by being careless and combining mixed outputs with unmixed change (or otherwise unmixed coins). This is prevented by using a wallet with [coincontrol](https://medium.com/@nopara73/coin-control-is-must-learn-if-you-care-about-your-privacy-in-bitcoin-33b9a5f224a2) and generally paying attention which coins you send around.
So essentially the ‘plausible deniability’ aspect is almost exponentially increased after a CJ? Even if someone knew you had CJ’d, they would have to track and follow a trail of an extra 99 outputs (as well as your own) assuming every single one is also in fact yours, **and** then also track every other subsequent output from all 100 outputs? Or…wait…are the 100 outputs completely obfuscated from the initial 100 CJ inputs that you can see on the blockchain? If so - wow! Also, yes this is fantastic and I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your replies. I’m very curious about this stuff but don’t have any technical know how at all so every little bit of information and advice is such a huge help. Thank you!
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The source is likely: [https://www.trendingtopics.eu/eu-wants-to-completely-ban-anonymous-payments-with-crypto-assets/](https://www.trendingtopics.eu/eu-wants-to-completely-ban-anonymous-payments-with-crypto-assets/) However, that article lacks nuance. The original: [https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/CJ12-PR-704888\_EN.pdf](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/CJ12-PR-704888_EN.pdf) This is the section about the lower bound transactions: *"Furthermore, the speed at which transactions are carried out, and the virtual nature and technological characteristics of crypto-assets facilitate the use of techniques aimed at evading the scope of any rules based on thresholds. In order to reflect those specific features of crypto-assets, an exemption for low-value transfers is therefore not appropriate for transfers of crypto-assets."* Some more arguments: *"Criminals are able to carry out illicit transfers and avoid detection by structuring a large transaction into smaller amounts using multiple seemingly unrelated wallet addresses, including one time use wallet addresses. Associating those wallet addresses to the real identity of a natural or legal person, or detecting linked transfers for the purpose of applying a de minimis threshold, is more challenging as compared to conventional transfers of funds. Most crypto-assets are also highly volatile and their value can fluctuate significantly in a very short time frame. This volatility could complicate the implementation and enforcement of a de minimis threshold for authorities as well as for crypto-asset service providers. In order to facilitate the detection of linked transfers and prevent the misuse of crypto-assets to facilitate, fund and hide criminal activities and to launder proceeds, a de minimis threshold should not be set for crypto-asset transfers."* However, this regulation only applies to service providers: *"(27a) This Regulation should not apply to person-to-person transfers of crypto-assets conducted without the use or involvement of a crypto-asset service provider or other obliged entity."* In addition, the use of anonymous crypto *"darknet marketplaces, or any usage of mixers or tumblers or other anonymising servicesis"* is going to be disallowed for service providers to accept. The result could be that all exchanges and third party payment providers will be off limits for private coins, and likely need proof of who they are wiring money to. The next step is then off course the requirement of using an identified private wallet. The net is closing...
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Anyone having trouble getting into a second round of mixes with Sparrow's CJ implementation? I have some that have been waiting for days for a second mix. My first thought it that not enough people are using it yet so there's not enough new entrants to pay for the "free-ride" mixes. Really excited about the Sparrow adding CJ but the UX so far has been a little slower than I had expected. What are your thoughts?
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