TSLA

Ready-Molasses-7093

how are you having liquidity issues on the top 2 most traded options underlyings? i can trade dozens of shares of tickers like XSP and XND just fine. NVDA and TSLA are highly liquid. make sure ur using the proper model for it

VotedOut

Sorry, I may have thought you were implying something that you weren't when you said "the market disagrees". Usually when people say that that, they mean it in the way of "I trust the wisdom of the markets more than that of individuals who disagree with it" (a notion I don't agree with when it comes to stocks like TSLA/SPCX especially). I shouldn't have assumed that you meant it in that way. I disagree that I'm in agreement with Musk. Maybe we're in agreement that overall stock market valuation is too high in general (not sure whether he thinks that or not). But we strongly disagree about HIS stocks (SPCX and TSLA, the ones we're talking about here). Musk thinks TSLA and SPCX are perpetually undervalued, while I think they're perhaps the most overvalued stocks of all. Sure, there was one time in 2020 when Elon Musk tweeted "Tesla stock price is too high imo" (probably as some sort of troll post). But that's an anomaly. 99%+ of the time his messaging is the opposite - always trying to sell investors on how perpetually undervalued he thinks his companies' stock prices are.

floodlight137

"hey guys, I spout generic nonsense because I don't know the right questions to ask. And then I say no one can trade 60 contracts because I'm too dumb to envision what that would look like, but I claim that I've made thousands of trades on TSLA, and here I am supporting fractionals because hopefully that means I can finally afford an option trade." You said I'm not trading 60 contracts. No caveats. I showed you a screenshot. Simple as that.  Don't be mad, lil bro. It's okay to be wrong once in a while. 

floodlight137

Now the caveats come out. So should the question have been, "what are you trading on TSLA that you have liquidity issues?" or that stupid shit you came back with? Go back to school, learn a bit more and then come back with your thousands of TSLA trades noob

noname__13

shut up. ive traded professionally for a decade and have made thousands of trades in TSLA alone. there are zero liquidity issues there unless you're trading stupid shit that's super deep or super wingy. yes nobody is going to trade your nonsense px on a 1d option expriing in 60 minutes. that's not a liquidty issue.

floodlight137

Yeah? Want to add any caveats to that blanket statement?At any delta? What about 5 delta credit spreads? I can show you plenty screenshot of my TSLA trades with 60 credits that have to run through to expiry because I can't close them on expiry date.  You sound like someone that buys a few long options and thinks 60 contracts takes a huge amount of money. 

floodlight137

This ^ even on the most liquid tickers like NVDA and TSLA, I often have liquidity issues when dealing with short-dated options in even moderate volumes (50-70 contracts). Fractionals would make it ridiculous. 

slytythesneakyguy

TSLA $420 this week

carl_mos

Briefly exploring this topic and was lucky enough to come across this. Bookmarked this to come back once I get over what I’m currently focused on. I looked back to the October 2021 timeframe and wow, what a move $TSLA and $COIN had between end of October and mid-November. Thank you for this stranger. 🙏

Deto

Flat revenue, decreasing profitability.  355 p/e Not every investor.  Just the ones investing in TSLA

bearhunter429

REVEREND BEARHUNTER'S BOOK OF GENESIS, CHAPTER 6: WALL STREET EDITION "And the Lord spake unto Noah, saying, Thou shalt build an ark, for a great flood cometh upon the earth. "And Noah gathered two of every animal, two of every bird, and two of every stock." Noah asked, "Lord, why hast thou commanded me to bring two shares of NVIDIA?" And the Lord replied, "Because, Noah, thou shalt need to average down during the Great Correction." 💀 "And Noah did bring forth two shares of NVDA, two shares of AMD, two shares of GOOG, and two shares of TSLA. Then came the Great Flood. 🌊 The bears drowned. The bulls survived. The S&P 500 reached an all-time high. #LMAO🤌

2020isgreat

TSLA's mkt cap is not even close to 700B btw

DezejongenheetMaco

**Short Put + Automatische Short Hedge Strategie** **Doel:** premie ontvangen op een verkochte put en bij een koersdaling automatisch short aandelen verkopen om van een verdere daling te profiteren. **Hoe werkt het?** Stel: je verkoopt een MU-put met strike $900 en ontvangt premie. **$910:** verkoop 30 aandelen short. **$900:** verkoop nog eens 30 aandelen short. **$880:** verkoop de laatste 40 aandelen short. Bij een sterke daling bouw je zo een shortpositie van maximaal 100 aandelen op. **Drie mogelijke scenario’s** **Koers stijgt:** je houdt de ontvangen premie als de put waardeloos afloopt, zonder dat je hedgeorders zijn geactiveerd. **Koers crasht:** de winst op de short aandelen kan het verlies op de put compenseren of overtreffen. **Koers schommelt rond de strike:** herhaaldelijk short gaan en terugkopen kan geld kosten en de ontvangen premie opeten. **Belangrijke aandachtspunten** Gebruik stop-limitorders voor de shorttranches, maar besef dat uitvoering niet gegarandeerd is. Overweeg automatische terugkooporders bij een bullish herstel. Houd rekening met transactiekosten, spreads, slippage en marginvereisten. Bij toewijzing van de put kunnen de 100 gekochte aandelen je shortpositie compenseren, maar dit gebeurt niet gegarandeerd automatisch op hetzelfde moment. Kies bij voorkeur volatiele aandelen met een lichte uptrend en een reële kans op een forse daling. Overweeg maximaal 14 dagen tot expiratie, maar vergeet niet dat kortlopende opties rond de strike extra gevoelig kunnen zijn. **Kernidee:** premie innen bij een stijgende of stabiele koers en een shortpositie opbouwen bij een sterke daling. Het grootste risico zit in koersschommelingen rond de strike en in orders die tijdens een snelle koersbeweging niet worden uitgevoerd. Dit idee doen ik nú ongeveer sinds begin van dit jaar, het gaat steeds beter. Doe dit nu met MSTR, SPCX en TSLA. Er is maar weinig te vinden omtrent deze strategie zijn er meer mensen die hiermee bezig zijn

chathobark_

meanwhile i’m up about $110k on TSLA, thank you for your contribution to my wallet

Ill_Ad3517

So does that mean TSLA shorts will finally print?

DramaticDirection292

You guys are still arguing about valuation based on earnings? Have we not learned over the the years it doesn’t matter. It’s all sentiment. SpaceX just proved it again. Not to say it won’t one day have a reckoning but good luck timing it. Hell, it’s like 10 years later and TSLA valuation still makes zero sense. PLTR is still at a 200 P/E….you think Anthropic or OpenAi is going to be any different? It’s all feels.

Public_Okra1636

TSLA = 10 T + SpaceX = 50 T + Next 12 months don’t matter.

_Clit-Commander_

I lost an entire house, a small house, but a house. $110k on TSLA in 2022. No crying in the casino!

Happy-Champion1661

but what if, that's the day TSLA goes up 10% and you end up making 150x your initial "investment"? just saying you don't even need a +10% day, even a "simple" +7-8% should do it!!

GainzandPumpz

TSLA roadster event on the 15th of October

NootNoot44NootNoot

Need TSLA to fall back into oblivion Monday that would be swell

artbystorms

"the Trump administration now allows wealthy donors to stock Trump Accounts with shares of individual companies, which families have no way to turn down." It's basically using kids as a passthrough for the government to give more money to corporations through purchasing their stock. What's to stop a company from lobbying Trump or a future president to have the kid accounts buy their stock in exchange for some favor? It's corruption pure and simple. Kids receiving an account that is invested in the total market or S&P isn't bad, because they benefit from the broad market growth. Kids receiving a government provided account that has TSLA, SPCX, Dell, Intel, and NVDA is corrupt and sus as hell.

WillTheGreat

TSLA with some tard power this month

Useful-Resist-5964

Fair point. But even TSLA went from 400 to like 180 a few years ago. Idk if AMD will crash, but 1T market cap on a few billion of earnings seems a little nuts.

BarbellPadawan

Well a share of TSLA is over double the market price a share of SPCX. So TSLA, sell that piece of shit company immediately. And invest in something rational, not meme cult bullshit.

TurbodToilet

It’s crazy how every dip on TSLA gets instantly bought up.

Hussle_Crowe

TSLA lmao

BadaBingSil

now that's what I call a change in momentum $TSLA https://preview.redd.it/z20ah6n4nguh1.png?width=605&format=png&auto=webp&s=6ceb263b17f7b06b4b1f7513d53eabda87f1fb03

gamblinproblem

NVDA and TSLA puts could feed families

wave_action

TSLA giving it back

BarbellPadawan

TSLA up 3% is a fucking joke.

dogs_and_stuff

My TSLA calls are printing!!! ❤️

Hussle_Crowe

Where do TSLA morons keep getting all this money to pay 254,000 price to earnings for declining technology?

ShotBandicoot7

Sooo… TSLA profitable again?

Stop_The_Rain

MU trades on 6 P/E.... TSLA trades on 348 P/E..... for the love of God.... WTF!

who_am_i_to_say_so

In my opinion it’s laughable what TSLA is really worth, but the guy knows what to say and when. On that basis it’s still a buy, but it’s a big gamble, too.

elbalti77

TSLA 400

Steak_Itchy

What the fuck are we doing on TSLA?

GainzandPumpz

TSLA going for it 🚀

Independent-List-242

TSLA to 400?

Hussle_Crowe

Why do meth when you can just trade TSLA?

OrangeManBibi

TSLA pumping for no reason

BadaBingSil

$TSLA up $MU, $SPCX, $NVDA, $PLTR, $INTC, $MRVL down makes sense

Interesting-Iron2587

TSLA flying high

vermilli21

Is it too much to ask for TSLA to pump another 3%

LeakMyBigBowls

TSLA 400 today

Steak_Itchy

TSLA is fucking fraud.

BulletPlease

TSLA breaking 200SMA and on its run to $450 pre earnings. Major up day today..

OrangeManBibi

Why TSLA pumping rn ???

vermilli21

I need TSLA to do a big move today 😂

Bubbly-Puddles

buying 0tde calls on TSLA

Beerplz94

TSLA is going to 400 today bro Elon wants to.

ShotBandicoot7

Wow what‘s pumping TSLA today? Green shrek dildo launched.

Emotional-Breath-838

SPCX, barring a drug overdose, a jealous ex-wife or a shooter, will wind up going to the moon (couldn't resist.) There is no reason to own any other space related stocks. None of them will do what SPCX will do over the next 500 days. I suspect you'll see an acquisition of TSLA. I suspect you'll see the release of humanoid robots. I suspect you'll see people turning their FSD Tesla's into "AirBnB style" daily rentals. I suspect you'll see rockets going up at volumes unprecedented. I suspect you'll see devices that leverage the satellite and low frequency bandwidth without dependence on os or "app stores" the way we've been doing it for 20+ years. The future is going to happen over the next 500 days and it will change how we communicate, how we use AI and how we think about the world.

VotedOut

And redditor Musk defenders just don't want to reckon with the fact that none of those innovations have brought it nearly the amount of revenue/earnings so far that he claimed it would bring in that is needed to even remotely begin to justify the valuations that SPCX and TSLA are trading at.

mattawara

Bad bot. My “bag” with this clown is +2000%. I still don’t like em, but TSLA did buy me a house so there is that 😆

AshamedTax8008

**Rank** **Ticker** **Trade thesis** **Risk** 1 **QQQ** Broad technology rebound following Thursday’s selloff Very high 2 **NVDA** Potential semiconductor relief rally after a 2.9% decline Extreme 3 **AMD** High-beta semiconductor rebound Extreme 4 **TSLA** Momentum-driven upside breakout Extreme 5 **SPY** Broad-market rebound following economic data Very high

Scubadoobiedo

GOOGL, on the other hand, has achieved FSD with their robotaxis. take that TSLA

Scubadoobiedo

GOOGL has basically achieved FSD with their robotaxis. TSLA.... has not

vermilli21

So TSLA 400 tomorrow, got it

epic_troll_tard

TSLA up, I bought calls at the bottom today.

beeArebel

Remember when in 2017-18 majority of this sub just used to trade $TSLA weeklies and nothing else

Valkorion335786

I'm buying TSLA calls

gopoohgo

TSLA is offering 1.9%...but assuming you need stellar credit, not 14% auto loan credit

Swiftnice

How much do you think SPCX and TSLA would drop if Musk had a sudden heart attack? lol It would be hilarious to see the perma bulls lose it all haha

diefy7321

fuck it TSLA 400c

D1finalboss

TSLA 380c we used to post positions I like reverse cowgirl

OrangeManBibi

Try TSLA next

YooperSauna

Be hilarious if TSLA does another 5% Friday move like last week

greenpride32

When I invest in a growth stock, I prefer to see revenue growth and improving margins in their core product. Growth in EV sales has stalled, and now they're telling you the future is autonomous vehicle and robotics. Yet where is the revenue growth here? Where is the revenue period? At least in EV, TSLA had advantage of being first mover at scale. That is not the case in AV and robotics. So if other companies are actually performing well financially (more or less every other megacap), what would compel me to move my money here instead of better top line, bottom line and margin growth?

Fhyzikz

Fr. TSLA p/e has been highly regarded for years

Magikarp_to_Gyarados

For TSLA I see a range of outcomes from $60-70/share (83% **loss** from current valuation), to $1,600-$1,700/share (4-5x **gain** from current valuation). Achieving the top of the valuation range requires Tesla to succeed in developing a robotics platform that is generalized enough to be trained for any manual task. My numbers here: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslainvestorsclub/comments/1cdnu7j/comment/l1fgehp/? The bottom of the valuation range occurs if Tesla fails to monetize any of its AI/robotics product roadmap, and doesn't progress much beyond its current manufacturing footpring: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TSLALounge/comments/1coec01/comment/l3hdpkq/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TSLALounge/comments/1coec01/comment/l3hdpkq/?context=3) >And honestly, at the current price, would you buy more, hold what you have, or stay away for now? **It depends on your life situation.** TSLA is my largest individual stockholding today, but I did divest a significant % in the $450 range earlier this year. I've been a shareholder since 2011. I am retired and financially independent on index funds/ETFs alone. Even if TSLA went to $0 this would have no material impact on my daily finances or ability to stay retired. TSLA is a high-risk, potentially high reward gamble. I say **stay away from it if you can't afford an outcome where you lose 85% of the stock value.** It may be worth holding some stock for big gains, **if** the worst-case scenario wouldn't affect you much.

ITeachYourKidz

What if TSLA made a great steering while that doesn’t whiff out of the window while I driving

Valvador

> GOOG, AMD, TSLA, SPCX, AMZN, DRTS That's absolutely hilarious.

Axwe8

"Elon created TSLA" The first new car in 75 years! - 🥭 TALKING LIVE

Own-Recipe5908

Wasn't TSLA's biggest future bullshit expectations terrafab? Which is entirely reliant on infinite AI growth? Shouldn't it be dumping a tad more?

Ok-Statistician-8174

TSLA Puts lets ride!

Own-Recipe5908

He's giving AMD, NVDA's, GOOGL's, and TSLA/SPCX's CEO medals, though.

Beerplz94

TSLA to 400 on Monday (I was given this info in a dream by my retardation brain chip)

wilson0x4d

the difference between AMD and NVDA though is that NVDA actually had technology nobody other than 3dfx had, and they gobbled 3dfx up (arguably, they are a re-badge of 3dfx.) today, in the AI space, AMD is playing smoke-and-mirrors in the consumer segment, and eventually people buying Halos are going to realize that dollar-for-dollar they should have bought RTX chips instead of single-user, sub-par (in token decode and power cost) mini PCs. their short term success is entirely a byproduct of "memory shortage" which is just a fancy way of saying "memory manufacturing expansion delay". then again who knows, maybe AMD invents a dedicated compute chip that scales over 1000s of micro-cores +and+ they find some way to become compatible (or competitive) with CUDA ... but this is something Nvidia has been dominating for a very, very long time and so far nobody else is doing it, the paltry 32+ core CISC chips AMD has specialized in "for gaming" are going to hit a technological ceiling just like what happened in the early 90s -- only so many electrons can pass through those dies before the substrate becomes burnt carbon. this is precisely why we haven't seen major "GHZ" advances since the 90s, just careful maneuvering and clever marketing to make it seem like chips are faster -- multiple lanes, i/o multiplexing, on-die instruction muxers, and then multi-core scaling when miniaturization technologies allows for it, which soon is going to require sub-nanometer manufacturing to continue the trend we saw over the past 10 years. more likely AMD flattens out along with INTC next year when they can't deliver anything competitive/new. NVDA will continue to climb until they see real competition, even after the AI bubble finally pops they will shift heavy into the consumer market as people realize they don't need cloud LLMs, which is going to come quickly after consumer GPUs start to approachin 128-256GB+ of VRAM (less than 3 years) and the OSS LLM space starts to deliver quality on par with that of the greediest Cloud AI offerings. gamers that remember "holy crap! 4MB is a LOT of RAM for a game! nobody has that!" will understand how quickly memory markets adapt to demand. look at us now -- 512GB ram machines and climbing quickly in response to AI innovation. yeah, if i was forced to unload AMD or NVDA, I'd dump AMD the moment they showed signs of weakness (or as a precursor, when AVGO began declining, they're also enjoying an unhealthy level of investor ignorance in the AI space.) I would probably immediately shift it into NVDA or TSLA (because robots are the next logical progression for mankind after AI) but only after the dust settled, i surely would NOT put it into an index fund when that is happening.. you'd just suffer death by a thousand cuts until the market is done correcting.

DICK_STUCK_IN_COW

I don’t care about the scam moves as long as TSLA continues to drop

YooperSauna

EU is going to approve FSD…That is the TSLA bear dagger IMO

SteakEater137

Just to troll myself I like to look at how absurd some of these valuations are. ASML has almost 75% more market cap than CVX, despite CVX having over 5x the revenue, 40% more income, and much better revenue/net income growth YoY too. Nice. And thats me purposefully avoiding the meme stock valuations like SPCX, PLTR or TSLA. Who even talks about ASML? Cant even say its AI related necessarily, because CVX signed a 20-year contract with Microsoft to power their biggest data center, and the market simply didnt care at all.

Quirky_Push_2506

I don't like Musk but I am actually gonna buy me some TSLA

privatewealthhardo

Going all in on RIVN, imminent TSLA moment

m0nk_3y_gw

Tesla self-driving? That's reported on TSLA's balance sheet.

Meeting_Ok2

That guy who shorted $380 TSLA puts is actually not cooked if he didn't sell.

McOmghall

I'm short TSLA. Oh god.

BarbellPadawan

Fuck TSLA, SPCX, MSTR, and CVNA. Other than those piece of shit companies, I’m fine with ATHs.

enc-nyc

I had one TSLA put I didn't sold at open. Of course.

The_Glass_Book

If SPX spreads are too big for you, just go SPY, it's 10x smaller. Keep in mind it's not an index though, so it's physically settled, and you can get assigned shares. I'd stay away from XSP, the liquidity there is pretty rough. I don't have anything on the S&P right now myself (I do like selling 0DTE there though). Right now the interesting opportunities are mostly in energy and tech (for such a low vol regime). I've had trade chains going on CRM, INTC and URA for a while (strangles now, since they were actively managed). Closed a credit spread on TSLA two days ago (it used to be a calendar, but I had to roll it). If you've got no ideas on what to get into in such a low vol regime, I'd go with calendars and long vega strategies. For calendars right now, as of today check SLV (IVR 6, price \~$55), but also NVDA (IVR around zero, price \~$240), and take a look at IBIT and URA too. As for selling premium, don't force trades. In this kind of market we should be focusing on staying defensive.

Phiziqe

ok ive decided to halp this fella lose monie on his pre planned earnings play, nothing burger companies report for awhile except C on oct 13 before open ASML on oct 14 before open TSM oct 15 before open GM and GE on oct 20 before open NFLX on oct 20 after close IBM on oct 21 after close the big deal starts the week of oct 26, TSLA, AMZN, AAPL and all, till then nobody cares

Midget_Molester10

PE too low, we only buy high PE companies like TSLA, SPCX and AMD

Aggravating-Buy-1695

TSLA.

ridinderty

For me (up over 1M) I was interested in TSLA at the time but was too pricey. Saw that NVDA supplied a lot of things for the tesla and I liked their GPU's. Was an easy investment based on those metrics for me

oprah_2024

Btw taxes are scary, but round tripping thru the potential top of the AI super bubble is scarier, because you'll be haunted literally for the remainder of your life. I can personally share some experiences about both of these out comes. I DCAed TSLA in the window of its post IPO sideways trading, after its first big markup I sold the entire position for something near 300% and I never really got back in, despite liking the company still. I chuckle about that mistake, but it's never deeply bothered me. On the flip side, I rode a 2020-2021 crypto bubble Altcoin up about 1300% on size, over a period of about 9-10 months, I round tripped about 85% of that position before taking out a meager +40-50% gain in mid 2022 thru 2023. That almost 2-3 year period still haunts me. I was afraid of the tax obligations at the top of that bubble, I know where you're at. I also grant to you the bit of "safety" that NVDA has, as compared to an Altcoin. Your max drawdown is probably only 40-60% absolute worst case, not exactly 85% but believe me, it's pain and regret you won't just shake off next bull market. Good luck and congrats on a fucking huge winning investment. Multi year high conviction, winning picks are talked about often, but executed rarely.

Wild-Porsches

How else would you explain the 90% run that TSLA had post the results of the 2024 elections? Rates, regulation, inflation expectations are all tied to political results, no?

ExplanationNormal339

The key assumption is that TSLA’s election-era swing was primarily political; if earnings, rates, or broader risk appetite drove it, midterm results may be a weak predictor. What evidence separates political moves from market-wide moves?

Infinite-Case8514

My buddy sold $TSLA calls for a small win then ended up buying back in at ATH and got rekt hard on the dip

thrwawy1738

tomorrow TSLA 360 MSFT 505 AAPL 325 WDC 450 SKHY 170 will cash out and delete my app if this happens :)