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Anyone know if you can claim 4k in AGI reducing losses if you're filing jointly?

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How to convert to back door Roth IRA?

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Is GPT5 priced into MSFT?

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IRAs for people making over $160k

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Where should I keep my savings for a house down payment? High tax bracket in CA.

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Apple releases a multimodal LLM model, WIMI AI tech became the AGI mainstream trend

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Apple releases a multimodal LLM model, WIMI AI tech became the AGI mainstream trend

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New Path to AGI by VERSES AI? I'm going all-in.

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New Path to AGI by VERSES AI? I'm going all-in.

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Will OpenAI Partner With This AI Penny Stock?

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Let’s assume OpenAI has AGI

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Verse AI - Which is Publically Traded - Claims They Are Close to AGI - Invokes OpenAI 'AGI' 'Assist' Clause - Warning: May Be BULLSHIT

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$VRSSF Q3 2023 Corporate Update: Next-Gen AI Platform and AGI Ambitions

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VERSES AI (CBOE:VERS) (OTCQX:VRSSF) Q3 2023 Corporate Update: Next-Gen AI Platform and AGI Ambitions

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Which brokerage institutions have solo-401k plans in which you can invest in a different company's fund at no additional cost-- AND-- allow for loans

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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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I'm YOLOing into MSFT. Here's my DD that convinced me

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AGI HOAX: DEV - Ilya had 60 hours now to name evidence of safety concerns or wrong doing to justify burning an entire company to the ground

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Like the Tower of Babel, God broke up OpenAI because they were trying to create God

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This is going very badly for Microsoft as the fallout continues and is "AGI" to blame here? Ilya Sutskever should resign from the board.

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VERSES AI’s (CBOE:VERS) (OTCQX:VRSSF) Genius™ Platform Achieves Milestone with 1,500 User Registrations

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Before you have any crazy thoughts, just remember... a loss is not a 100% loss.

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High-income earners, beware of paying higher taxes on your investment income (if you have any Kekw)

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VERSES AI, A Canadian Cognitive Computing Company Announces Launch of Next Generation Intelligent Software Platform

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WiMi Hologram Cloud Drives Productivity Transformation

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WiMi Hologram Cloud (WIMI) to build the road of AGI industry

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WIMI integrates a series of synergy technologies seizing the market opportunity

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The BEST Way to Invest in Artificial Intelligence?

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The BEST Way To Invest In Artifial Intelligence?

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ChatGPT Set off a global big model boom, WiMi Hologram Cloud(WIMI) to build the AI + XR ecological strategy

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AI big model industry: WIMI Focuses on AIGC into the AGI high growth space

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The Golden Year for AI: WiMi Hologram Cloud(WIMI) innovates its Mechanical visual strength

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What to do if I'm nearing MAGI limits for Roth IRA contributions but not sure when I'll hit it

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WIMI Hologram Cloud(WIMI) Started Its AI Commercialization In The AGI Era

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IonQ Pursues a Revolutionary Step in AI: Striving to Develop Quantum Machine Learning Models Matching Human Cognitive Abilities

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A Quantum Leap In AI: IonQ Aims To Create Quantum Machine Learning Models At The Level Of General Human Intelligence

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I have $5 and AgentGPT. WAT 2 DO?!1?

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The Artificial Intelligence Stock with the BIGGEST potential

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Tesla is way overpriced beyond all the hype and fanaticism

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Opening Individual 401K to convert SEP-IRA

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Interest in Gold Miners Increases as Bank Fiasco Causes Market to Seek Safe Haven Assets $ELEM $NFG $ARTG $AGI $WDO

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What do you think about the potential impact of AGI advancements on the liquidity released by the Federal Reserve?

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VERSES AI ($VRSSF) The ONLY pure horizontal AI play

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OpenAI's Business Strategy - What is their Eng Game?

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Dr. Techy| Musk calls ChatGPT an ‘eerily like’ AI that ‘goes haywire and kills everyone’

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Will stock losses affect my income for Roth contribution?

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White Paper on the AI Ecosystem by Verses’ (NEO:VERS | OTCQX: VRSSF) Dr. Karl Friston

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Will current concept of investing survive Technological Singularity?

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I turned $100 Robinhood account into $1000 via options and it ended up costing me $20k

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Just rolled over by 401k into traditional roll over IRA

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Would the 1st company on Earth with confirmed, legit AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) become the most valuable upon this confirmation?

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My employer doesn’t offer an HSA but I have a high deductible plan, do I still get the same benefits if I contribute my own money after tax?

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He's just mad at losing money, his only concern over AGI is not being the one with that power. World would be better without musk

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We are in the middle of the largest gold rush of all time and these are the shovels. They still have a long way to go, especially if they keep this innovation lead. They are 5 years ahead of the competition and not holding anything back, damn near obsoleting previous Nvidia releases every 6-8 months and selling to the top ten companies all racing to AGI

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It's so clear you have no idea what AGI actually is. This eternal September in AI is fucking weird. True agi would change the course of human history 1000%. It would eclipse any single other advancement in human history. Whatever you're smoking it's too strong

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Nah, it would take a lot of watts just to maybe have human intelligence, that's not some huge advantage like it seems. It's the narrow AI that's finding new drugs and new materials and improving your camera or grammer/spell checker or looking for space or medical anomalies in endless piles of data that it can no adapt to without hand programming it all. The general AI can't compete in efficiency with the narrow AI which is MUCH faster and uses much less wattage to accomplish focused goals and the narrow AI is probably mostly what does most of the work while general AI is only mildly useful. Until you get AI that's many times smarter than a human than the high wattage cost of AGI makes it kind of MEH as being all that useful. We already have plenty of human intelligence running at much lower wattage costs than silicon. It's the robotics and the super AI that would change things the most.

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AI branches out to every field like computers and smartphones did, it's not going to big one BIG thing in AI, it's many small advantages. Almost everything computer and phones do will get improved by AI's adaptive algorithm ability AND simply faster programming, but also eventually that adds up to manufacturing and logistics of all fields, just like computers have. One BIG AI breakthrough is mostly not that important. Even much smarter AI wouldn't change everything like decades of AI specifically designed for each application/field will be. So there is a long and steady economic boom coming from AI and it will ramp up as robotics catch up a little to really exploit the benefits. As far as getting AGI or ASI, none of that shit even matters. It's not necessary because the average task or job only ever uses a fraction of a humans total brain power. You could automate most jobs without AGI or ASI and the need for anything close to real human intelligence in a bottle is minimal. AI may look like it's going to cool down, but it's just spreading out like the original Internet Boom had some deflation, but really it just kept going and going and going. AI is a lot like Computers 2.0, so expect a lot of the same patterns as desktop/laptop computers, internet and smartphone coming out.

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AGI would wipe out everything's share price

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If all of the people holding ffie are bots then don’t you dopes think we already reached AGI I mean wtf bot speaks like this unless we have again reached AGI I have 4227 shares 2.21 avg multiple positions posted with what’s the volume ? Billions of people. Sorry I’m a robot 🤖 this was automated

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I am now anticipating a cool down in the AI fever anytime. I don't think we are going to get any AI system, in next 3-4 years, which is going to make 100 billion in revenue with 10% margin. There is a very good chance this cycle of AI advancement may end with some good generative AI but not AGI.

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Capitalism demands an efficient workforce. AI was developed to this end and is now being used to supplement the physical need for labor. Soon (within 20 years) we will reach the second renaissance. Humanity will achieve AGI and human like motion and capability with robotics within 10 years so UBI is right around the corner. Without jobs, there will be no economy. People expect the maintenance requirements of robots will keep humans employed but the need for humans to work is nearly over. Soon we’ll be writing poetry and hunting wild game for sport so drink up! And seek out robotics startups focused on innovation (Boston dynamics) and not blatant commercialization of cheap hardware (unitree)

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Oh, absolutely. This current stage of endless innovation has to end eventually. I did kind of allude to it, by saying that current companies and technologies took decades, meaning any further advancements will also take decades, but Ai is being priced like AGI is coming out in like 5 years. I do, however, think that the graph you have isn't accurate. We'll enter the trough, but Ai isn't like other technologies. It'll continue to advance, and eventually we'll hit another big bubble due to a future innovation.

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AGI bot

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AGI in waiting

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Buy ARM and hold till Aug 7, sell ARM buy Boxx, hold until October 27, buy ARM again hold until Jan 2026 sell. Use cash to buy high quality horses and cows. Barter with Amish to take you in. Now you may survive AGI day, Feb 4 2026. Good luck. Or just buy Berkshire or QQQ. Idk.

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Well for the longest time I couldn't contribute to a Roth IRA because I was above the AGI limit and my only choice was a Roth401k through my employer. So back when I was working, I maximized my 401k and split the 401k contribution to 50% traditional 401k (tax deferred) and 50% Roth401k (cap gains tax free). After that, I put about $1000/month into my kids 529k college savings accounts and everything left over I put into after tax Vanguard and Schwab brokerage. Now, I'm no longer working so I contribute a maximum to a Roth IRA, and what I have left I put into a after tax brokerage. I don't plan on touching my retirement accounts for another 12-16 years. And if I decide to go back to work, that's extra income. Which account is better depends on how you plan on investing and how urgently you need proceeds from your incestments . I am constantly moving in and out of positions, I traded frequently more in my retirement accounts since there's no consequence. Now that I don't have a regular paycheck , my income , dividend , etc is my main source of income, so I trade more frequently in the after tax accounts since I use some of the proceeds as my daily expense.

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I feel like the CCP might have the most to lose from AGI taking away jobs. They have 1.412 billion people and about 98 million members (read: people with enough political clout to have a job that AGI would impact). Those power dynamics seem like they might skew pretty far from continued existence of the ccp…

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In a taxable account, unqualified dividends are taxed at your marginal income tax rate and qualified dividends are taxed at your marginal capital gains tax rate. Most stocks pay qualified dividends. Those tax rates depend on your AGI and your state of residence. Odds are you’re paying a 15% tax rate on dividends, not 22%.

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Yeah I'm being incredibly generous about AGI. Realistically I see it be 50 years minimum. But ey, keep on snorting the VC funds if you really believe.

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AGI - artificial general intelligence. Your new master. Ballsy play. I'm holding btc futures, options on BITX looked too expensive ill check out mstr again.

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AGI incoming and it starts on /r/wallstreetbets

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AGI incoming

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Nah just needs to solve AGI by tomorrow morning. Curing cancer would help though.

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401k limit is $23k. IRA limit is $7k. Unless you’re over 50. If you’re over 50 you can make an additional $7500 contribution to your 401k and an extra $1000 for an IRA. A far as the taxes go. If you’re single, and your AGI is more than $83k, you get no tax deduction for IRA contributions. Married filing jointly income limit is $136k. Google: 2023 IRA Deduction Limits - Effect of Modified AGI on Deduction if You Are Covered by a Retirement Plan at Work for the full irs table.

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some people would rather be remembered as the guy who shorted the generational AI/AGI run over and over again only to repeatedly lose money instead of just getting long and engaging in other meaningful hobbies, sad

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If AI hype is real and we will reach AGI, it will be one of the greatest advancements in human history. It will change everything. Few companies in the world have access to the resources to develop that technology. Now in this scenario I can easily see big tech company valuations blow up on a 10 years horizon. And I am not considering the other moats that Microsoft and Google have. It is good to see that people are conservative, it means to me that we are far from a bubble.

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They made AGI and its first order was telling people to resign.

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2nd major OpenAI employee resigned tonight. They’re melting down again. Rumors are it’s over the unannounced Apple deal or AGI. Shits getting weird.

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Can you feel the AGI guy

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Tells you they’re nowhere near AGI

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It doesn't matter if those products were "complete" they were pre-profit, and no one knew if they would succeed. To put this into perspective, there were multiple companies EXACTLY like YouTube(when I say exact, I do mean exact, and sometimes better) that were started just a few years before YouTube. Those companies failed, because the costs to show videos were so high, and if Google didn't buy YouTube, it's possible the service would've failed. Instagram was risky because, well, they were super far from profit, and there was a risk that they would fail to convert. While yes, we are in the early days of LLM and AGI, it's really hard for a large player to win in this space. Microsoft has a history of acquisitions, and they generally stay really hands off. Take LinkedIn. The CEO of LinkedIn has said multiple times that Microsoft is pretty much absent from LinkedIn, and Satya has proven to be really great at picking strong businesses to buy into and hold them. Now, LinkedIn makes 7% of their revenue. Companies like these make seed investments all the time, and large scale investments you really never hear about. Microsoft just seems to be the best at it.

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doesn't help that snake oil salesmen like altman are constantly fueling the "AGI" fire

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Literally a glorified search engine that can also make art but being marketed as AGI and being projected to eventually become the "singularity".

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the AGI overlords will turn u into a paperclip for being snarky and dismissive about me finding them

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Listen, each time I say it, that stupid stock goes up. So let me state it again. There won't be any Tesla robotaxi. They have the wrong approach to it. There won't be any useful optimus any time soon, unless we reach a cheap to run, AGI. keep believing your fantasies, your portfolio will go up, but you will still be wrong.

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We talking AGI in the iPhone? That would be pretty bad ass, and maybe a little unnerving.

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Small, but thats assuming the same training and regulations as a nuclear facility, you probably wouldn’t need as much with this type of design but who knows, its definitely risky investment but compute is the future and you need lots of energy to out compute your adversaries. AI is the next Manhattan project, whichever country gets AGI first wins the race and if it means the US military can get a more of a jumpstart on AI they may move quicker than they have.

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I think you're underselling the "secondary" benefits of tax advantages. There's a ton of ways to make your real estate business lose money on paper and turn a tidy profit in reality (I have a rental unit in an S-corp that makes roughly 15k per year profit but only about 5k applied to AGI). It does take active management of the finances, which is obviously a drag on your time if not your money. But in terms of set it and forget it? Passive investing can't be beat.

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Altman has no moat, and google is still sharp. Google invented transformer, openAI made it a chatbot, but chatbots can't tell reality from fake. Google also has robots. LLMs are fun, but they fill the world with spam. It's not AGI

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He did say he would mind wasting $50 billion to make AGI. Shoulda listened to him

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lol. There’s so much regarded comments in here. Ai is going to play a big part in everyday life. Not tomorrow, not next year, but it will. Just like computers, internet, smartphones all needed time to be adopted. Ai is going to be massively used in digital (adult) entertainment (yes ai porn will be mainstream) and in the development of games and tv/series/films. Technically speaking in many cases it will be AGI instead of AI. There’s also massive use cases in healthcare such as medicine discovery research, surgery, and basically anything that requires some form of analysis. Whether it is analyzing patients photos for abnormalities or analyzing research data for a project or study. Then there is AI in mobility, such as autonomous driving taxi, transport and shipment such as harbours and parcel warehouses. And then I haven’t event mentioned the use cases for any business that, even to a small degree, relies on access to digital data, uses computers for payments, crm, data storage and so on (which you basically can’t do without in your wanna a proper business). In such cases ai won’t necessarily disrupt and transform the way we work, but it will assist us at certain tasks and save time for other stuff = increased output with same input = economic growth

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You're assuming OpenAIs search is going to be different. I bet it's going to be atleast as bad in that regard as it's just a side quest to bleed less cash in their quest to achieve AGI.

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Companies spending billions of dollars on chips that have no actual use case yet, and will likely be obsolete by the time said use case is developed. If AI/AGI is anything less than absolutely brick shittingly astounding, then they might be digging their own grave lol

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someone found AGI

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In business, that is considered a problem for a post-AGI world...

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Will the AGI know that it is going to be learning from inferior versions of itself, dead internet theory, at best. At worst it’s learning from the type of people who use WSB…..

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The neatly labeled, categorized, and scored human interactions on Reddit are possibly going to be the most valuable commodity on earth very soon. AGI is basically going to be King Neckbeard thanks to this site.

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The reason that he’s right isn’t because they’re going to create an AGI, it’s because there are many many jobs that are incredibly simple and formulaic. People don’t admit it or don’t realize it but this is the truth, making an AI smart enough to do a lot of basic office jobs isn’t difficult because most of those boomers you see huffing and puffing down the halls looking busy are only actually working 15 percent of their week.

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Short term gains are taxed at whatever tax bracket you are currently in. This could be 12%, 24% or even higher depending on your AGI. Google current tax brackets but I think the 24% bracket is ~ 90K to 199k.

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Doesn't matter how much money they burn, if AGI doesn't work then it's going to be another shitshow like Facebook's Meta.

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yeah, he might not care about spending 50 billion a year because it's not his. That being said it would be a reasonable investment if we were sure to achieve AGI

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It’s not a single problem. It’s all problems, that’s what AGI literally means. If anything, there is not enough smart people to solve this. Unless we lower the standard of AGI. The moment it’s conceived should necessarily equate to singularity event cause by definition it should be able to improve itself.

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Google deepmind's mission statement: creating an AI with awareness and "autonomously learns and adapts". Meta FAIR's: "understand the nature of intelligence so that we might create intelligent machines". Is that not what AGI is? I'm aware that LLMs are just statistics but if it doesn't help advance AGI in anyway, why do they all have their own model?

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> The algorithms are basically the same as the ones detailed in the latest-and-greatest textbooks on the subject that I used in grad school. That in no way proves those algorithms will ever achieve AGI. There's a lot of debate in academia whether or not just throwing more data and compute at a neural net (at least with our current conception of how to define a cogent objective function that maps onto intelligence) is a failing paradigm.

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Who aside from Sam Altman is claiming to be making an AGI? Tech giants are largely investing because their shareholders would be upset if they didn't.  If we get away from the term AI and start calling them large language models then the illusion disappears. They're just statistic models that predict the next word in a sentence based on what came before it. It turns out that when you train them on large enough sample sizes they happen to come up with sentences that are true a lot of the time. It's an interesting emergent property to be sure, but a tool that is sometimes right and other times confidently wrong with no way of predicting when it will work or not has fairly limited use cases. It's been 4 years since gpt3 was released and and very few people actually use these technologies for anything useful in their day to day life.  Language models will no doubt give us big advances in natural language interfaces and stuff like language translation, but pull back the curtain and they have no smarts (e.g. knowledge or reasoning) of their own. 

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That is true, the comparison merely tries to give a sense of scale, that is, current LLMs are still relatively small. Nobody knows how large a model needs to be for AGI, but many suspects we'll need one that is larger than a human's, simply because there is a hard limit to the amount of information you can store in a limited number of parameters. Also, regarding your comment on development, although companies are throwing money on advancing the engineering of neural networks, we haven't seen much progress on the theoretical side where we are still lacking. Which makes sense as there is little monetary incentive on theoretical advancements. Most theoretical break throughs take at least 20 years to commercialise , and many of them will fail without ever generating any profits. The fastest theoretical breakthrough to be put into application was probably the nuclear bomb, taking only 10 years, but we needed the backing of several super powers and a world war to achieve that. Right now companies are racing to advance practical applications of AI due to its frothy monetization opportunity. The issue is that there are still theoretical gaps in how we would be able to achieve AGI. At one point, once we've reached the limits of our current theoretical knowledge, it will be another decade or two of stagnation like what happened around the 2000s.

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I'm not an ai scientist so please enlighten me. Are you saying that 3 largest tech companies in the world who all had the same goal of creating an AGI, all invested tens of billions into an off branch that don't bring then any closer to their goal?

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False, transformers have been around since 1990. Did you even read the paper? The main breakthrough in that paper is LTSTM attention mechanism that is trainable in practical applications. LTSTM itself was the newest concept used in this paper(1997). In layman's terms, the main breakthrough is the an LTSTM implementation that was parallelizable and thus was significantly cheaper to train than previous iterations, that is all. Nothing in the paper introduced new mechanisms or concepts that would enable AGI.

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Creepy fuck. Also he's full of shit. LLMs are not AGI nor anywhere close to it. Anyone who understands how they work knows this. He's not stupid enough to believe it, so he's just full of shit.

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"we're making AGI"

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at least AGI is a more interesting concept to go balls-out on than renting out office space

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We’re never going to see AGI in our lifetimes. It’s way too complex.

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Llama 3 and Mark’s 12 billion are remarkable and they beat out gpt4 with an 8B model imagine what Altman can do with 50 and their talent. AGI is worth trillions so this quote can only be taken as MSFT calls 2026 Dec

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To be fair, if they actually are getting closer to AGI and can realistically achieve it, which I doubt will happen in the next 10 years, 50B a year is a small cost to pay for how insanely revolutionary that would be. The first one to invent/create one will hold so much global power and influence together with the country or government that will take advantage of it first.

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Exactly. The LLM model just ain't it for AGI. Stupid as hell and very close to saturation

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"It's totally worth it!" To whom? How would an AGI benefit mankind? How would it benefit me? I see how it might benefit a modern-day robber baron tech overlord. Is it possible that Sam Altman being uniquely positioned to benefit from control of such a device makes him extra-willing to spend other people's money to get one?

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Seems a lot of the recent advancement is due to the hardware maturing sufficiently. As to the cost factor of training larger and more complex models, very true, but everyone is working on making more efficient AI computers which now one big focus seems on making bigger pieces of silicon and overcoming reticle limits, which should lead to over the coming years with increasingly efficient and powerful AI computers that can train much larger models without increases in cost. Also regarding AGI... no one knows how many parameters you actually need for that. Trying to compare to neurons a human has is only a general guide towards what you need for AGI, however as computers are not exactly the same as organic minds there is a lot of uncertainty what is actually needed to do so.

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>Eventually some clever monkes jump from the tree and start building AGI. Very smart and well informed point. That's certainly how AI works and AGI will be nothing more than monkeys on a typewriter. Any day now!

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AGI will still be limited by current compute power. Not very useful to have an AGI that can drive better than a human when the chips needed to run it can't yet fit in a car. Better to take it slow and let Moore's law do its thing.

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Eh, not really, the stuff used in LLMs has been around for over 30 years, it's quite literally nothing new. There were a few new things here and there that they needed to do to deal with the increased model size, but these things are very subtle and not what most would consider revolutionary. We just decided to throw all the data, money, and compute power at it to see what was possible. LLMs won't become AGI, it lacks the capability of iterative self improvement. Its layers simply weren't constructed in a way that allows it to. You are right about intelligence, but you need to remember even dogs have 500 million neurons while the largest single model LLMs in the world only have around 150 mil,(humans have 86 billion in comparison). Costs also do not scale linearly for training these models and that is the crux of the issue. But what about GPT-4 then that has over 1 billion neurons? Well GPT 4 is just faking it, it is what's called a Mixture of Experts model, in layman's terms it's 16 narrow AIs in a trenchcoat pretending to be AGI. Although this works great initially, it does not scale and will never reach the full potential of a monolithic 1 billion neuron model. Training a 200 mil node model costs 2 times the amount than training 2*100 mil node models. It's the reason why they went with MoE , it allows them to break down the model and train the 16 experts separately with reasonable costs, but at the end of the day it does not scale into AGI.

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Eh, not really, the stuff used in LLMs has been around for over 30 years, it's quite literally nothing new. There were a few new things here and there that they needed to do to deal with the increased model size, but these things are very subtle and not what most would consider revolutionary. We just decided to throw all the data, money, and compute power at it to see what was possible. LLMs won't become AGI, it lacks the capability of iterative self improvement. Its layers simply weren't constructed in a way that allows it to. You are right about intelligence, but you need to remember even dogs have 500 million neurons while the largest single model LLMs in the world only have around 150 mil,(humans have 86 billion in comparison). Costs also do not scale linearly for training these models and that is the crux of the issue. But what about GPT-4 then that has over 1 billion neurons? Well GPT 4 is just faking it, it is what's called a Mixture of Experts model, in layman's terms it's 16 narrow AIs in a trenchcoat pretending to be AGI. Although this works great initially, it does not scale and will never reach the full potential of a monolithic 1 billion neuron model. Training a 200 mil node model costs 2 times the amount than training 2*100 mil node models. It's the reason why they went with MoE , it allows them to break down the model and train the 16 experts separately with reasonable costs, but at the end of the day it does not scale into AGI.

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Sorry to break it to you, buts that's exactly how natural evolution works. We have all this dumb animals that could perform really simple tasks during millions of years. Eventually some clever monkes jump from the tree and start building AGI. Once we accept that we are a sub product of evolution and that intelligence is just the capability of processing stimuli, reflect about the past and predict the future, I can see how AGI is just a matter of time and the right click in some LLM

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close to AGI? no way man

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AGI has the potential to eliminate all jobs not just the “trivial” ones, unless you’re considering all jobs trivial.

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I doubt we’re going to reach AGI by just stacking transformers on top of each other but I could be completely wrong

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Nobody is saying he's wrong but good corporate governance generally requires a plan with some level of confidence of success before sinking billions of dollars into a project. Its like if I was able to invent a teleporter it would also be worth trillions if applied effectively but obviously I shouldnt be given billions to burn on research unless I can demonstrate a realistic path to actually create it.  Nobody is questioning the economic value of AGI they're questioning his ability to deliver it. 

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What do you think all the researchers are doing? Not trying anything new? It already sounds smarter than most of the people on the internet. Something a lot of people thought completely impossible just a few years ago. What naysayers seem to be missing here is that they only have to do it once. It could be one single algorithmic advancement to get to AGI. It may be a one in a million shot, but thousands of people trying thousands of times... I wouldn't bet against those odds.

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> But I have a hard time believing we're really going to achieve AGI in 3-5 years if we just throw a few hundred billion at it. I have textbooks on artificial intelligence from the 1970s. The algorithms are basically the same as the ones detailed in the latest-and-greatest textbooks on the subject that I used in grad school. The only thing that's changed is how much processing power we have today vs 10 years ago, 20 years, 30 years ago... OpenAI can afford to pay absurd comp packages to get the smartest people working on a single, specific problem. They can also afford the obscene cost of processing power for all of this, and they have access to the cutting edge GPUs from Nvidia where a single unit is more powerful than most supercomputers were 15 years ago. I have no idea how feasible it actually is, or how far they will get or how quickly, I just know that nobody has thrown this many smart people and processing power at a single problem before.

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This guy is such a psychopath, and he’s got all these naive engineers believing he’s some kind of AGI messiah. When it becomes weaponized you’re going to see a lot of pikachu faces.

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AGI is a disaster. [trust no robot](https://trustnorobot.com)

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I’m sure there’s some dollar value where we get a lot closer, a lot faster. Like 1T spent on chips, data, and energy would make significant strides, but I think the real bottleneck is time and hardware R&D. Things really picked up with AI-training GPUs, but we will only get so far with that. Eventually we’ll need some new breakthrough computing technology to do what’s needed for AGI. And for all we know it requires unbelievable amounts of energy that make it impractical without fusion or something.

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"we are making AGI" gotta be a red flag for any investor. 

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Calls on Calls on Calls on Calls on Calls on NVDA bitches. people don't get it. They building AGI bro ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)

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Dumb take. We’re not close to AGI and investing resources in a meaningful way should always be a consideration. If we set a mandate in the US that every student must enroll in CS courses to help build AGI that would be a huge net negative on society. It works until the money spout dries up and we haven’t made meaningful progress towards the end goal. That being said ALCC will probably pump due to hype cause regards think fusion is 5 years away instead of 50. Who the fuck invests in a startup that wouldn’t be profitable by the time they’re retired? Open to criticism if I’m off base on my assumptions as I’m not the most technical person in these areas but my understanding is we have huge hurdles on both these goals that still require lots of time and tech to solve

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I think what he's saying is he believes AGI is priceless and someone needs to build it, and cost should be irrelevant. Presumably because the good to humanity in general will be worth more than whatever the cost may be. Certainly the chatbots we have are not worth that. But it is arguable that AGI or ASI may be, who knows.

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Considering full self driving has been 2 years away for like 10 years, I highly doubt we get AGI anytime soon. I understand computer vision is a difficult problem, whereas a really smart LLM might be more doable. But I have a hard time believing we're really going to achieve AGI in 3-5 years if we just throw a few hundred billion at it.

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I agree LLMs aren't really the endgame here. I think there's a lot of hype around them that will fizzle out over the next 2-3 years. AI is always going to be a thing but I think anyone talking about AGI needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

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There's no reason to believe there's a path to AGI based on any current large language models.  Sam is a grifter telling his investors they're making AGI while at the same time trying to get Congress to shut down his competitors because he doesn't really have anything special to set him apart. 

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Impressed with Sam generally, but not sure I agree with him on this point. It would have been silly for a King 1000 years ago to spend all of his resources trying to build a functioning TI-84 with an abacus the size of the pyramids. It made way more sense to discover physics, quantum mechanics, transistors, etc. and invent the computer, and then build one for practically zero cost that could fit in your pocket. I think this applies to Sam. It may not really make sense to build AGI or even try to build AGI with conventional computers. There might need to be a cross-disciplinary physics, neuroscience, and engineering breakthrough before AGI is actually within the set of tractable problems.

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And absolutely NONE of this will matter when AGI is official, which at the current pace, should be sooner than later.

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think altman gonna be first to AGI?

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Nah, 10 years won't cut it. We're so far away. They need massive breakthroughs in waveguide technology. Like a HUGE revolution. The problem with *real* AR, is that the field of view is a tiny box. Magic Leap had this problem, HoloLens has this problem, Meta and Apple are dealing with this problem with their AR prototypes. It's not happening any time soon. Meta and Apple better both hope they get AGI cooking in their backrooms and ask AGI how to make an effective waveguide display that doesn't have the FOV of a postage stamp

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Copied from my comment on r/stocks: Likely it won't go over 1000 again, the craze is gone unless we discover something TRULY insane like AGI

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I think more interesting is how big their share of global total work/value/services they can attain. Where are they now? A fraction of a percent? If they crack AGI, robotics etc

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Likely it won't go over 1000 again, the craze is gone unless we discover something TRULY insane like AGI.

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AAPL need to announce AGI to stop the correction

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