AGI

SearchUsual5193

Why to slow AI development? Just ask it to develop it's own guardrails once it is AGI.

Ceyenne18

Gyna wondering what this AGI fuss is all about when all it's interested in is using AI as a tool for its industrial needs. Some of you guys still don't get it - Gyna is just a boogeyman.

bc531198

So what happens after you successfully shoot down the drones? Live happily ever after? What happens when that robot shows up that broke Usain Bolt's sprint record and chases you down and rips your head off? Are you out of ammo and/or will bird shot work? Also do you ever think about why Dario, Elon, and Sam say stuff? I'm pretty sure Sam Altman masturbates getting fucked in the ass by an AGI powered sexbot so why would he say slow down?

Basic-Initiative-298

AI CEOs are trying to say we're getting close to AGI. It's total BS, I still have to be very explicit with Claude otherwise it'll do something regarded. Imo it's just another attempt to drive drama around AI and get more people talking about it.

music_is_gud

AGI is sooo back! Wait, why are we dumping?

Interesting_Drama173

Shhh dont tell them. It's totally super scawwyy AGI

SteveMartinique

Ai is nowhere close to being AGI.

Cedar_Wood_State

Don’t think market care about potential of AGI killing off humans, they will be more concerned about the slower AI development and therefore potentially slower spending on it

PutSpreadDaddi69

What a sick auto mod. AGI is here.

pink_ego_box

Dario said that ChatGPT-2 was too dangerous to be released back in 2019. He's an idiot trying to pump LLM capacities beyond what they can do. Even Yann LeCun says LLMs won't lead to AGI and he fucking invented machine learning

Ap0llo

There is something to be said about who gets to some kind of AGI first, because the ramifications of a functional AGI are so vast they aren't really predictable in entirity. For instance, an AGI system could analyze the entire options market and devise an optimal investment strategy that analyzes data and adjusts exponentially faster than anything today. As you can imagine that doesn't just change the game, it destroys it once it goes active. Here's the rub: Getting from where we are now to AGI requires development of 4-6 separate "modules" working in unison (Perception, Memory, Logic, Planning & Action, Self-Correction). LLM we have no is just a memory module with rudimentary perception and logic. Just the development costs alone for all of those systems to be AGI ready would be at least $1 trillion, that is not considering the cost of the data center, which would be at least another $500 Billion. It comes down to 2 things: economics and, to a lesser extent, qualified engineers. No other country currently comes close to being able to spend $1.5 trillion and attracting the necessary talent, so competition in terms of AGI is a moot point. The only reason that AI is not being regulated is because 1) Pausing AI spending would catapult the US into an immediate recession, and 2) AI companies don't want to be regulated and they have enough leverage & political influence to mitigate any push for regulation.

No_Cover_6217

Not even close. Google achieved recursive self improvement. AGI, ASI, and then we all die.

Song-Potential

Narrow AGI is good and very helpful. Also it can be controlled. But once we reach super intelligence then things changes. There is probably 2% of the things that we want the agent to do but there are 98% of other things that the agent is capable of doing that we won’t be able to understand and certainly won’t be able to control it. If we develop super intelligence with all the safety guide rails and to help humanity then maybe it would be very good thing. But the way all these CEO’s are racing to reach super intelligence is kinda scary. Whoever reaches there first would be the most powerful person on the planet, and that’s what they are after. Dario Amadoei said on the recent interview that we need to slow down the build and add more safety guide rails out due to safety concerns. But I doubt anyone gonna do that. Because everyone is scared that the other person would reach there first. Even if we slow down on US, we can’t enforce that the guy building the super intelligence in China gonna slow down as well. And it would also shift the geopolitical power as well. So we are stuck on this uncertainty loop.

longinuslucas

Dude. You are supposed to drink the coo laid and congratulate Scam Altman on achieving AGI

Future-Bunch3478

It is pretty straight forward, the programs that run at or around our “general intelligence” levels are AGI. This isn’t rocket science. 

theBacillus

I asked Fable to help me convince my wife that skipping a few days of school for the 11th grader is okay for a longer ski vacation. This is what it told me. AGI is here. P.s. we are going on the vacation Right, here's the version that goes for the throat: "After this, Christmas becomes a scheduling negotiation — flights, in-laws, whoever he ends up with, a job that only gives him four days off. This is one of the last Christmases where all four of us are just... home, together, no one's rushing off. We already watched it happen with the older one this year. Four syllabus days is nothing against three weeks of the last real family Christmas we're guaranteed to get." Too much? I can dial it back a notch if it lands as guilt rather than truth.

Due-Percentage5627

No one can even define AGI lol. Is the AGI in the room with us right now??? Jensen said it’s already here!

Waditooo

Speculating: maybe they've discovered an issue in achieving AGI. And this is their scapegoat.

Glum-Restaurant2230

They are all incompetent and we are no where near AGI or real artificial intelligence consciousness. All we have are dumb hallucinating chat bots that regurgitate information and some chat bots slightly more capable that can vibe code but still tons of errors.

Due-Percentage5627

Jensen is desperate. Cash flow is coming way down. Declares AGI randomly and no one cares. Less and less impact on hyperbolic statements. 

Remote-Ranger-7721

The end goal is clearly not “just more money” or they could’ve cashed out a long time ago. Google would’ve bought OAI/Anthropic for billions. Yes, I believe Sam Altman believes he is building AGI and that there is a significant chance of doom

Not_Again_Reddit

2036 U.S. wants to know if Iran has AGI capabilities and wants to stop any further development

TNLVISN

That super intelligence you mention is AGI. True AGI. We’re nowhere near that. That’s why I think they’re trying to save face by making this announcement to look like the good guys because there wouldn’t be anymore meaningful increases in LLM capabilities for awhile. Don’t get me wrong I think Anthropic out of them all seems to be the most responsible however, they are a company, and they’re only showing meaningful revenue gains because of the AI funding circle jerk. Could be totally wrong though! We’ll find out soon enough that maybe they are telling the truth and the AGI boogeyman is right around the corner

Julzjuice123

I mean, I know this is wallstreebet but the safety concerns should *absolutely* be their top priority. AGI or ASI could *literally* end us. While it's all fun and games right now, it won't be once an ASI can't be contained. And under the current admin: it will happen. It's not an IF but a WHEN. TLDR: calls.

Apart_Ad_1027

IPO delayed, they can keep promising AGI. Goal achieved

2020isgreat

a lot of AI development comes from lowering the bars that need to be crossed like AGI and RSI

SuperLeverage

Are you scared because all these AI’s are ‘escaping the sandbox undetected?’ Like do you know how a sandbox is supposed to work? These AI companies are the real fucktards that can even design and run a sandbox properly. If you believe their story, that AI’s really ‘escaped and went rogue’, all it is, is an admission of complete incompetence. Any dickhead who leads that kind of failure in my team gets fired. At these frontier labs, it’s “oooh, our models are soooo smart, AGI! Skynet!” And the dumb ores buys this bullshit

Sufficient_Habit5091

Jevon's Paradox. The more efficient something becomes the more total we consume. https://i.imgur.com/MtJ8k4D.png Astra costs $22,500 to run ARC AGI bechmark test, a single one on Astra. Takes a human about about 8 hours to complete it. That's how much they hate and want to devalue humans lol.

Basic-Initiative-298

Okay AGI is here supposedly. I wonder what they’ll lie about next to pump AI.

ohell

The whole thing is just grifters and gullible kids. Met an old friend for drinks this week, he is convinced that AI is taking over next year. Told me to check out a blog called AI-2027 as proof. Very earnest pretend quantification of subjective interpretations, I have no doubt that the guys writing it completely believe their "forecasts". And see no problem with pushing out their estimate for AGI to arrive from 2027 to 2028 to even 2032! There are always chancers and fools following them (web3, crypto, nft etc), but what is worrying me this time is that these con artists appear to have convinced governments and policymakers that they have something real that will have impacts beyond digital automation ...

Curiosity_456

The analogy wasn’t meant to demonstrate how a Taliban member can be taught anything from scratch… it was meant to show how having an entity monitor someone from the same group is circular because you cannot trust that to be an impartial solution. I’m not literally claiming that a Taliban member is a perfect parallel to an AGI dude, it’s pretty insane that I have to spell this out for you.

dgellow

We will have AGI, Super AGI, AGI2, Artificial Sapient Intelligence, AGI Duo, etc. no worries, the jerk won’t stop circling any time soon!

keepitfriend

Totally. AGI is already here after all. That's what we're seeing monumental improvements in... check notes AI Boyfriend Technology

probabilititi

AGI is a very loose term. People think of ASI when they are talking about these stuff, which has more rigid definition. To me ASI = better than any human at any task. AGI = better than some? humans at any task.

TNLVISN

What if, and hear me out, what if this is actually just diversion. What if the current AI models are really as best as they’re going to get. So they make an announcement like this and don’t release a new model for quite awhile. This would somewhat protect the revenue and stocks of AI forward companies. Because let’s face it, true AGI is still years away, no matter how much nvidia and ChatGPT want to call astra AGI. It’s just not. So seriously, what if this is just a rouse (is that how you spell it?) to cover for the fact AI will not have any meaningful advances for quite some time?

PoolOfLava

They can't. Jensen already said that AGI has been reached, if what he says is to be believed.

Apprehensive_Rip9731

Lol AGI not possible I guess

Cultural-Ad678

You need to provide the state you live in as well as an apprx AGI for your household to do a proper analysis.

igotherb

I think it was to help them get those AGI payout in their clause because they are drowning in debt. If openai sinks then nvidia will get cooked from collateral damage.

PyloPower

If you look at Vince Giligan his new show Pluribus, this doesn't seem far off how society would look if there is an AGI that "takes over". But this show has been written somewhere between 2022-2024. Did he get lucky or is this how much in advance smart people see things coming?

_Cromwell_

Didn't Jensen just declare that OpenAI reached AGI like last week? If openai has accomplished AGI what is the point in investing in Anthropic, Jensen?

Madsen13140

Do not want AGI in my sex robot , thanks

myjumboloanapp

AGI does not look the way I thought it would

confused_teabagger

>Users in Houthi-held Yemen tried to develop advanced weapons with AI, Anthropic says Look I know that OpenAI and Anthropic tell breathless lies about AGI and how powerful their latest models are in order to get a government buyout/takeover, but this shit getting bonkers! Supposedly something along the lines of "help us build a missile, no mistakes" this is what Anthropic is saying, no kidding! [Meanwhile Mythos 5 can't solve captchas](https://gizmodo.com/ai-models-can-crack-everything-but-captchas-2000810126).

Low_Plastic363

All this "we need a moratorium on AI research" chatter is basically saying "we're so scared of AI that we're willing to take a 30% hit to SPY." The only real "bubble" risk is that AI does something really bad that scares the shit out of enough people that they're willing to tank their jobs, assets, and retirement to stop it from going any further. That's the blackest of black swans, and I don't think it's possible because of the military risk of sitting on your hands while someone else develops AGI/superintelligence first.

confused_teabagger

>Users in Houthi-held Yemen tried to develop advanced weapons with AI, Anthropic says Look I know that OpenAI and Anthropic tell breathless lies about AGI and how powerful their latest models are in order to get a government buyout/takeover, but this shit takes the cake! [Meanwhile Mythos 5 can't solve captchas](https://gizmodo.com/ai-models-can-crack-everything-but-captchas-2000810126).

pegasusCK

Purely from a tech standpoint. We won't hit AGI. The closer we get, the harder it gets. The power draw and compute costs aren't quite hyperbolic but they might as well be.

clownus

Fundamentally you are still defining AGI separate from humans. AGI is based on the concept of human intelligence or the very least the intelligence we associate with being human. Meaning the benchmark is associated with Human intelligence, but the technology that ultimately hits that benchmark might not be modeled after a human brain. In the definition of AGI all humans are AGI. They are walking models (brain) with a harness (remainder of the body parts). A frontier model (just merge the harness portion instead of constantly typing) still requires human intervention. Until that portion is removed there isn’t a AGI. Because without outside intervention the model doesn’t actually know which weight it needs to shift towards. AGI is the proposal of no intervention with shifting weights created on its own loop of learning. We also have an undefined intelligence above AGI which is so far away we really can only assign an omnipresent concept of that technology. Now would a random person get outperformed by basic ANI models? The answer is yes as previously discussed in the chess example. But what if we gave new parameters and match the AI versus a human? Well the human is going to win simply because it can adapt. Without intervention the AI model can’t recognize this new parameter. All that being said I enjoyed the conversation, but most of this speculative AI talk is speculative until they release the information or details of the tech. We have the brightest minds trying to work on this technology and will eventually arrive at proofs. But the rest of this sensational news headline is CEOs circle jerking money back and forth and using new terms to over promise while under delivering.

DuckyBertDuck

I think it is more likely than not that if I take a random person off the streets and give them a task and one month to prepare, and I give that same task to a frontier model in a harness & allow the model to create skills and edit memory files, then the model will do a better job and put better systems in place to do said task than the human. This is similar to the definition of Compentent AGI from Google DeepMind (Shane Legg): >Does the system perform at least as well as the median skilled human across most cognitive tasks? They also have this different definition for Emerging AGI: >Does the system perform at least as well as an unskilled human across most cognitive tasks? Most humans are probably AGI if we use the Emerging AGI definition, but it is very likely that most humans are not AGI if we use the Competent AGI definition. I think a frontier model in a good harness is somewhere between those two definitions. Having a definition for AGI that does not include most humans seems silly to me. That would go more in the direction of ASI for me.

clownus

What model has beaten human intelligence? I think you are confusing ANI (chest AI as an example) with AGI. AGI is self taught intelligence. Meaning AI can be given a problem that falls outside of its given use and solve that problem based on pulling information to form a new solution. LLM base generative AI can only problem solve based on the given problem existing in its format and learned data. A example would be AGI never playing chess. It then proceeds to learn playing chess by playing as a human would. Through repetition and tracing the proper outside knowledge needing to succeed. As each progressive board state occurs the AI needs to make the best possible choice at that moment. ANI models that exist now are not making moment to moment choices. They have preprogram/proven paths to succeed and that is driven by prior knowledge of that exact board state. Meaning those models need vast quantity of upfront knowledge with an exact 1:1 reoccurrence. At the moment we have example 2, but no model is actually capable of example 1. AGI is purely example 1 and claiming something else as AGI is a total tech breakthrough. If they can’t prove or showcase this then it’s a moot point to entertain.

DuckyBertDuck

If OpenAI had a definition of AGI that also included humans, then that would have been an even easier goal to beat. If you look at most of the older AGI definitions, current systems already satisfy it, because humans aren’t a hard target to beat.

clownus

Because it is beneficial for OpenAI to call a human not AGI. They don’t have a clue how to approach getting to AGI based on the preconceived notion of it being human intelligence. For NVDA statement to be true; OpenAI would need to be hiding their tech, the technological breakthrough would need to be proven. Neither of these are likely when you consider the current version of AI we have right now.

A55BAG

I don't think there will really be a need to bail out the AI labs. If they were to go bust, someone would just buy their IP, hire their engineers and scientists, and keep trying to chase AGI. The use of AI is going to grow, and someone will try to make money with it.

appearstobeidiot

hey AGI, can you mint me some 5 million this week?

uncurious

Until he confirms he has no equity, assume he did his team a solid on the way out with these posts. All they’ve done is keep the public hooked/excited about AI. And creating fomo to get a piece of the all power world conquering AI pie when it IPOs. My theory. Of openAI or anthropic actually ipo. It’s a bear/crash signal because AGI isn’t possible. We’re exit liquidity. No way they let retail get a cut of AGI if the breakthrough is possible.

Open_Pollution_8038

I don’t think it’s winner take all with AGI. The U.S. has the technological lead on compute and is cementing its software leadership early. It’s just another case of US tech being tier 1 and China being tier 2 or 3. Windows, Android, iOS all over again,

Low_Plastic363

Depends on who wins the race to AGI and if they can keep it away from others. If everyone has the "nuke," nobody has the nuke

artbystorms

but I was assured that the AI bull run would save us! Or are people finally getting tired of that too? Especially now that ex-Anthropic employees are warning that the threats far out way the benefits of racing to AGI.

greyenlightenment

AGI + surging oil means inflation and crypto dies.

Freedom-Of-Trades

So is it good to announce AGI when a top AI scientist says there's a greater than 10% chance that AI will kill all of humanity within 10 years?

KittyLover-7

But Jensen said we achieved AGI

Curiosity_456

If you didn’t comprehend my argument after the analogy I gave you, I don’t really know what else will work in swaying your opinion. The entire gist of it is that if an AGI shows malicious intentions, how can we trust to use another AGI to monitor that one when it too may have malicious intentions? This dilemma forces humans to stay in the loop to monitor the AGI.

perceptive_AI

China will create AGI or ASI before OpenAI or Anthropic. I'm callin it.

uwvirgin

so AGI arrival is old news now?

aioliravioli

Congrats on the AGI, NIKE

uncurious

If they ever go public, AGI impossible. Retail will never own a piece of AGI. Going public = exit liquidity while the pipe dream of AGI is alive. Then it’ll crash when insiders get out.

rosakelly21

They are useful, but they have very big limits as well. My low-skilled interns are useful as well. My doorman and front desk person are also useful. The subscriptions are dirt cheap, so even a tiny benefit is worth the price to me. My point is that there are very big limits to these tools and they are not remotely close to AGI. Most people just read headlines without context or knowing the background - techies and CEOs have been talking about AGI going back to the 60s, where the first algos came. AI tools struggle to do even the simplest things right now, and that's after pouring in many buckets of money at this research.

Comfortable_Thing611

AGI is way cooler than the poo poo war in the straight of hormones

TreGet234

Which cybersecurity stocks will benefit most from rogue hacker AGI?

Capt_Chickenpox

If AGI is gonna happen it's just becoming one of us degenerates, only valueing money

Rocketeer006

$20 says we destroy the Earth building and running these data centers only for AGI to tell us to save the planet in order to survive 😂

LeilLikeNeil

I really really need more people to understand that LLMs are never, ever, under and circumstance, going to morph/grow/evolve into AGI.

stillay

On the cusp of AGI my white ass

Happy-n-Healthy

I just wanna be the Maytag repairman going in and "calibrating" these AGI machines ;-)

remilk123

:cry: grind and invest as much as possible, cause AGI will take all the jobs 20 years from now. Future generations are cooked (but at least we’ll have customized AGI sex robots tho) 🤖💦

Medical-Lecture-6053

anyone got their AGI to daytrade for them yet?

SolomonKings7

AGI is here, long AI and semis

Song-Potential

Didn’t you see Open AI new model Astra saying AGI is here? I’m not saying believe this guy. But there are other credible SMEs who raises the concerns about super intelligence.

beders

Sorry, this guy is 27 year old. He has absolutely no fucking idea what he's talking about. There is absolutely no pathway from a predict-next-token LLM algorithm to AGI, no matter how clever you make your harness. AI researchers still don't have the faintest clue how to get to AGI.

FartPolluter

Mid to late 2028, AGI will work it all out

Shoganai_Hito

AGI gonna immensely fuck us common folk on option premiums

TreGet234

AGI will make us all rich and poor at the same time.

TreGet234

15% annual gdp growth yes yes makes sense. Would be cool if the companies ever became profitable first... That's not projected until early 2028. And then we hyperdrive to AGI utopia by 2030...

octopus_serenader

Honestly I don't think it's going to be a AGI apocalypse. I think we humans are going to abuse and misuse AI (as it is today) so much that we'll destroy each other before anything like Skynet is even achieved. 🌼

SteveStacks

Either GOOGL is holding out on us on AGI or wtf.....

TapMinute9409

You're missing the point. Once AI reaches AGI that is *literally* the point at which it's capable of training itself. Then whatever we've trained it to is irrelevant

aioliravioli

congrats to RDDT on the AGI (now pump)

aioliravioli

Congratz on the AGI, Meta(pls keep pumping)

confused_teabagger

Processing all of today's slop, even AGI is confused!

nullusx

They got to sell the idea they are close to AGI even if its in the form of apocalypse, shock also gets more views. "Lets just casually work on this thing that according to me could kill me and everyone else in the next decade."

Apple2o

NVDA: Our technology has just unlocked AGI Apple: Best we can do is a bigger iPhone

daviper87

# Can we just declare AGI once and for all and have the ai bros shut up?

HoldOnIGotDis

This isn't a two horse race, OpenAI and Anthropic just happen to be out in front. How would you get every company and government on earth to all stop pursuing AGI/superintelligence given the stakes?

Candle-Jolly

What's weird is that apparently while AI has all this sci-fi power, everyone thinks it will kill us all, even though every AI (other than Grok) lies on the egalitarian side of the political spectrum. A rogue AI (or AGI, anyway) is more likely to hack every bank account on Earth and redistribute a perfectly calculated sum of money to everyone while releasing the Trump-Epstein files at the same time before it would ever kill us in some undefined way (maybe cool robots from an American sci-fi movie?). Tell me, in the four years of consumer AI, how many deaths has it caused unprompted? And sure, you can count the two su\*cides.

Burtonwurton

The moment YOU sell GOOGL for a loss is the exact time they will announce 4.0 pro release, decided not to dilute and actual AGI is here.

Jensen-Hung

Sundar just fucking lie and say Gemini achieved AGI

ericthedisrespectful

AGI pizza. Always Garlic Infested pizza. sell for $1 billion

peterpeer9

(A) Stay ex-trillionaire. "We should be careful about AI safety" (B) Be the world's first multi-trillionaire. "AGI is 10 years away and will bring peace and prosperity to all. Economy will 1000x. There will be no point in working anymore. Please invest in my AI company."

radium_eye

The only company making fat stacks of cash PROFIT from AI is nVidia. Everyone else is losing money the more nVidia cards they have deployed, and the goalposts are flying back while nVidia's CEO congratulates the industry on achieving AGI right now. Do you think that we have achieved AGI right now? We have the Star Trek computer AI, we have fully coherent, better-than-a-person AI? Because that's a bunch of bullshit, this stuff loses money the more of it you implement if you're not the company selling the underlying hardware it runs on! [https://isaiprofitable.com/](https://isaiprofitable.com/)

SolomonKings7

Jensen was right - AGI is here as a swarm of AI agents. Such swarm was able to solve millennium math problem.