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The Federal Reserves Internal Turmoil, Recent Economic Reports and How To Profit - The Case for NUGT, UGL, AGQ, and Crypto
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Hey man. first off, you're still here. you're posting about it instead of hiding from it. that matters more than you probably realize right now. i'm not gonna sugarcoat what happened but i do want to give you some honest perspective because the emotional spiral after a loss like this is where the real damage gets done, not the loss itself. what caught most silver longs off guard wasn't just the move. it was the speed. silver dropped 40% in three days and if you were in AGQ or leveraged options, the math was absolutely brutal. that daily reset compounding on a 2x leveraged ETF during a multi-day crash means you weren't just taking 2x the loss. you were taking 2x the loss on an already diminished base, every single day. that's not something most people understand until they live through it. now you understand it at a cellular level. that education cost you dearly but it is yours forever. here's the thing nobody tells you after a big loss. the instinct is going to be one of two things, either revenge trade to make it back fast, or quit entirely. both are wrong. the revenge trade is how you lose the last third. and quitting means the tuition you just paid was for nothing. what actually works is sitting out for a bit. seriously. a few weeks minimum. let the cortisol come down. your brain is not making good risk decisions right now and that's not a judgment on you, that's just neurochemistry. every single trader who has done this long enough has a story like yours. every one. the ones who survived are the ones who paused, studied what happened, and came back with rules. some things to think about when you're ready: position sizing is everything. if one trade can take 2/3 of your account, the position was too big. full stop. doesn't matter how good the thesis was. even if silver went to $200 tomorrow you'd still need to fix this because the next "sure thing" will come along and the same sizing will eventually blow you up again. leveraged ETFs are not hold-and-hope instruments. AGQ, UVXY, TQQQ, these are tactical tools for days, maybe a week or two max. holding them through volatility events is how the math destroys you even when the underlying eventually recovers. silver is already bouncing. AGQ holders who got wiped don't get that recovery. the macro thesis on silver might still be completely right. industrial demand, EV adoption, supply deficits — none of that changed because of one crash. but being right on the thesis and wrong on the vehicle or the sizing is the most expensive lesson in trading. you were probably right. you just expressed it in a way that couldn't survive the drawdown. your life savings can be rebuilt. i know it doesn't feel that way right now but you clearly have the analytical mind for markets. you identified a real trend. you just need to learn to structure trades that let you be wrong without being wiped out. that's what risk management is. it's not about avoiding losses. it's about making sure losses are survivable. take your time. come back smaller. come back with rules. the market isn't going anywhere. nine lives, friend. you've still got plenty left. 🥁
Just because this time, if you bought at +400% and lucked out to +1200%, is absolutely not justification to buy shit like this at the top. Same thing people were saying buying AGQ at 350+ and well, whered they end up at?
I just can’t do it again. I know as soon as I load up on AGQ it will be the most insane reversal imaginable
100 percent AGQ to 100 percent OXY Buying AGQ At the bottom and selling at the top Buying OXY at the bottom is not gambling daddy
glad i’m holding AGQ (2x silver)
I've gotten sniped a bunch of times on silver lately. I got sniped by $0.25 on AGQ yesterday. I'm assuming it's not bad luck but that I'm using a predictable stop loss.
Yeah, but what is "safe" in this market? I lost money lsst year putting it into Amazon, Google, Microsoft and, believe it or not, gold. I sold my AGQ shares at $45 because silver was not moving. I sold NUGT at a loss because it dropped as a knife. I sold Google and Microsoft out of boredom. Just to see gold, silver and Google multiply by 3 or 5 times the price I sold for. After that, I decides I wouldn't sell any of my shares and just double down... guess what? I'm down 50% in my portfolio. I guess I'm just a classic!
Quantumscape (bought at peak, it fell hard, I forget what the loss was when I exited), Eargo (IPO at $80, delisted a couple years later), Livongo/Teladoc (tumbled after the merger and never bounced back), and more recently, ASTX and AGQ (ok these are leveraged ETFs).
AGQ 👀👀 for those who think they need to catch up to the rest of the silver gang
TIL. Thanks! Watching AGQ puke almost gave me a heart attack
Options on AGQ is some crazy stuff … you can see based on the spreads
Just for visibility, all these are nothing to do with new chair or other naratives given by news analysts. It is stock sector rotation. I recently came to know this IGV and it holdings, started buying adding IGV. Yesterday it self profit is $4000 by simply trading IGV options, but hold IGV etfs. Same way, my friend and I, identified bitcoin drop 50% from peak, and planned to buy IBIT (and BITX). Very nice returns. Samething with SLV and GLDM, it is just a sell off (or shorting at peak), DCAing them. Even today, I have placed limit DCA purchases on IGV, IBIT, BITX,SLV, GLDM and AGQ. Good Luck and Happy investing.
Thanks ! Closed during the day and move some to AGQ and other things… I think it keeps going but decided to cash out as options can quickly drain the profits as well
Its a leveraged fund, I get it.......not that difficult to understand. I sold my PSLV 2 days before the crash. Then bought half as much AGQ at about the bottom. Less than half my capital is on the table and I stand to make double what I would have owning PSLV. I wish I had the balls to short it...........
Amazing commentary. If I don’t get fucked entirely on Monday morning I may switch this play to AGQ shares and wait and see. Will think about the OTM puts as hedge. Will see first on Monday how it will open. Thanks again for the insightful comment !
Lots of people in here not understanding the difference between paper and physical silver... Along with eligible silver vs. registered silver and the fuckery that goes on there. The house always wins... Remember that kiddos. COMEX is going to be fucked with how much physical they're on the hook for on paper which means they'll be passing that fucking on via margin requirement fuckery and if that doesn't work they'll just cook everyone by turning off the buy button. Remember the gamestore saga? They used to get away with it because hardly anyone would take delivery. Now **98%** are taking delivery. The normal lease rate is like 0.3% - 0.5% and is currently something like 8% which is crazy. \~25x *increase* lmao. The current open interest is somewhere in the 400-500 million ounce neighborhood with 103 million ounces of registered (available) on hand... \~800k+ ounces leaving the vault *per day.* Last January the Gods took delivery on just under 7 million ounces, this January is was fucking 50 million ounces. Gyna already labeled it "strategic" which means... things. Something something they ain't exporting shit or extremely restricting it. Shits going to break. They might find a way to kick the can down the road rolling contracts, maybe? Has to be sorted by March and if they survive then May is where the party starts. Physical silver has real use all over the place... Electronics, data centers, AI everything, solar everything, everything everything... So the big boys out there (industrials) are actually taking delivery in huge amounts because they see the physical supply shortage and know they actually need it. Miners are all like, sure bro, we'll get it out of the ground but can't deliver for a year or years... Will paper and physical decouple in price? Probably. Idk, the hell do I know? I just don't see how it doesn't given the demand for physical with the amount of paper IOU's out there. If you're playing silver make sure you understand if you're in something that is paper or physical. If I was smart and had a sack (lacking both) I'd go long miners (SILJ) with leaps and/or grab some AGQ shares to feel something again, and then short SLV with something like 40P's for next Jan. One side will probably lose but the winning side should win bigly and there is a small chance both sides of the play win bigly if price decouples drastically. I don't see how both sides lose. I don't think that would be possible. Which means they'll both lose. My actual position today - I own physical. Elon can have it for a trillion, bitch. **TL:DR - There will be fuckery. Soon. COMEX will either have to resort to cash settlements, change the rules entirely (raise margins, impose limits/turn off the buy button) and/or paper and physical price is going to dislocate entirely which will probably fuck paper holders and reward physical.**
Note: it's stated that currently, about 350 paper ounces : 1 ounce physical. Things may get ugly fast as Feb. progresses, because everyone knows that the registered silver is not enough to cover the march requests, and THEY ARE COMING. Another key factor here is arbitrage, COMEX silver prices are being pushed down (due to losses from very large banks that would occur) so I'd be very careful with SLV or AGQ, I mean VERY CAREFUL.
Got it. I will try AGQ moving forward. Thanks for the tip !
This guy gets it. I’m in AGQ in the 180s and ANNOYED I couldn’t average down Thursday AH when it dipped below 100. Ah well. SLV calls/leaps premiums are way too expensive for the risk you take.
These are EXPENSIVE contracts. ~$1 ITM currently at $11 premium 98 days out? You need an $80+ strike to be profitable. Anything less and they expire worthless. Just buy AGQ if you’re holding long term, or far OTM if you’re expecting a big move.
Personally I’m waiting for AGQ and silver to go up long term. Does not feel good at 50% unrealized loss. Guess I’m a long term investor now
looking to close on Mon or Tues with AGQ down around 125
Fundamentals have not changed, I am at - 137k on AGQ. If you hold you will remember why you bought in the first place. Too much is pushing the price up and we are just riding the wave these banks cause trying to keep the prices down. If silver is down, wait, watch but dont panic at the volatility.
That’s me on AGQ. Down $25K so far on that one. About all I can do is hold it and hope the dollar keeps cratering.
I chopped my dik after taking losses with my SLV & AGQ shorts, wtf is wrong with me, fking paperhanded this shit
40k to 33k today just holding QQQ, TQQQ, NVDA, and AGQ. fuck me eh?
Honestly wish i caught the collapse. Could have made way more money off that crash than you could have on the run up. Seen a dude on here turn 5800 into 60k off AGQ puts
AGQ reverting back to $40 soon I think
ok, with Japan about to go on a massive spending spree and hedgies getting cheaper leverage by the minute, I'm getting back into silver via AGQ
Yup instead of being down $38k on silver I'm *only* down $7k, and that's with AGQ. Still gotta scratch that levvie itch...
I own AGQ(2x SLV), MSTR, HOOD. I’m getting crushed. Good thing I’m making money day trading. If not I’d be really depressed
What's happening at AGQ? price order stuck 126?
I sold CSPs on AGQ at 115 expiring next Friday... still have $32 of buffer before it goes ITM, but it's not looking good! On the other hand, the options premiums are going to be crazy on silver ETFs, thetagang is going to be absolutely eating this month
Might as well do AGQ then
ummm.... is it normal for AGQ to stop moving for 30 minutes?
They done fuked AGQ... she frozen Nice of JPM criminal enterprises to at least manually halt at the 10% this time ...
Buy AGQ and you go straight to zero (2x leverage silver)
Almost me. I played with AGQ for 15 minutes the day before crash and say nope, this shit is too much to me. Still got burned by holding SLV but no leverage so hope can slowly recover some.
Its been hard man. I got calls months ago for AGQ at 88 and again at 140. Sold, and then it ripped up past 400 bucks lol.
AGQ going bonkers since Monday. Up almost $50/share
https://preview.redd.it/mvsf73g70fhg1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a04d05ea0d4395cafe75cf9630e7efdd7c66003 Casino hindsight is always 20/20. But somebody (not me 😞) did buy these AGQ puts.
i traded some AGQ, bought some HUM, bought some other stuff. i'm not totally out of the silver market though.... too much whiplashing ahead
Im not joking here. If you want a free 100 bagger load deep OTM AGQ calls for 4 July. Will pay biggly
Check Silver (XAGUSD). If you are happy & think that there's a turnaround, you may buy some Weekly Call Options on AGQ \[Proshares Ultra Silver\]. AGQ around $165. Zero cost Risk Reversal for 2/6 (3 day) with \[Sell 150 Put & Buy 180 Call\] looks interesting to me. ... Any thoughts?
It was the usual JPM paper silver slam amplified by retards buying and dumping tons of AGQ while China was closed for the weekend at the same time.
Flash crashes are the result of algos racing each other in the same direction, and that result is undone quickly - hence the "flash" part. When market is all-in (as shown by this data on picture above), there is minimal liquidity for chasing price, and (normally) there is a lot of leverage in one way; once the price drops a red rod (as with silver on Friday), liquidations start instantly, then escalate, activate algos, escalate further, and it doesn't stop until most or all leveraged positions are liquidated. So the magnitude of such correction is defined by the total size of leveraged positions. Non-leveraged can hold the bag, leveraged have no choice in the matter. The chart shows this: the "knee" where chart shifts gear is the level at which leveraged liquidity bought in. I marked the days when these shifts happened in PSLV, also the day (or level, \~50) when volume hard-switched from physical (PSLV) to leveraged (AGQ). That is the level where selloff may land on hard floor - PSLV will not sell its stash now, not at 50 silver. https://preview.redd.it/oqptr4h06ahg1.png?width=3440&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b131ce31544e074463abd8ec08eebab8d304774
AGQ up 17% in premarket his morning... Lessons are never learned..
Damn, would've been nice if I held my swing trade on AGQ overnight 😮💨 I mean, fuck actually doing that, but would've been nice
The numbers don't add up. That's only 151k. How is that 100% your account when you sold your AGQ for 350k?
Can’t knock it. But Costco gold coins and sleeves of silver coins was pretty fun to stack and throw in my safe I did have miners and AGQ in my retirement and paper handed it after 2.5 years and sold in 2024 but whatever I got physical
I'm in leveraged silver AGQ, and even I feel less retarded.
you should read more on what AGQ is.....how's it doing today vs pslv? But, you do you..........
JPM heavily bought the dip on silver with 2.3Moz of physical notified for delivery on Friday at $78. They probably organized the slam on the futures market like they did thousands of times to buy cheap bullion during delivery notice days. And it was amplified by an AGQ/SLV rebalancing from RRR selling in panic (Robinhood Retail Retards) and because China's SHFE halt was triggered. Now the two market makers China and JPM are buying frantically at a huge discount to the real price. If you sold in panic you're an idiot and exit liquidity.
China: oh look a 40% discount on Silver. I'll buy it all before Robinhood retards start piling up on AGQ again.
Silver need to close at 87 to recapture its trendline. Then you retards have to calm the fuck down with the AGQ fomo and paperhand bullshit
Be a hero and buy as much AGQ as you can.
Talk abt catching a falling knife..should have taken AGQ puts instead
I bought SLV 2/6 $100c and AGQ 2/6 $300c before close Friday. Let’s ride this pony back up
AGQ would of got delisted because it lost 60% in a day.
Godspeed man, bought 25 shares of AGQ so I’m hoping this shit Vs hard by next week
Why do you mean Monday, AGQ died 60% Friday
I hope you're right bcos I bout the dip on AGQ at 125... 🤷♂️
Lol I thought i was clever buying the "dip" on AGQ yesterday lol then plummeted 60 percent
I got 1/2 burned. I was in leveraged UGL and AGQ! Sold in morning.
LOL my AGQ gave me -60% while your 3SLV got -45% only 😭😭😂
Holy shit dude, that's a lot of money. That's why I'm only sticking to IPOs and shares of leveraged stocks that are related to super popular ones that are more certain to go up in value and make a lot of money. During the Silver and gold booms, I switched out my shares of IAU and SLV for AGQ and UGL and made $475 in three few days. I sold on When tech stocks like Nvidia Google are doing great, I don't think it's a bad idea to invest in leveraged shares like GGLL. If the prices of gold and silver continue to go down, I might go ahead and buy inverse leveraged shares of silver and gold. I think I'm also going to buy some Berkshire Hathaway. The stock is undervalued and will continue to go up and see consistent and healthy growth. I trust that Warren Buffet picked a good person to run it and it will continue to do what is in the best interest of the investor. The inverse shares will be somewhat temporary but good for the short term. Berkshire will be a good long-term hold. Other than that, I put $1,000 down to buy into Liftoff Mobile that is backed by the investment firm Blackstone and has seen strong growth of 40% during the first five months of 2025. Then, it's SpaceX and Openai.
and there I am who went balls deep into AGQ and burned my entire portfolio
bought 100 shares of AGQ today. It's a massive overreaction imo.
What made you decide to go in on AGQ AFTER it pumped to $400?
Yeah I had just made a bunch of $ trading in and out of SLV/AGQ. So I just grabbed some hoping for a quick reversal into the 90s to grab a quick scalp. It went down so I averaged down. Only a small position, I'll hold it...add more if it drops back down to "normal" levels. Should have snatched some gold too...wasn't even thinking about it.
I bought AGQ this afternoon. Did you buy ZSl?options or stock?
Fuck AGQ is bad. No, I went into SLV. I'm down 27% right now lol
Fuck AGQ is bad. No, I went into SLV
Yeah , no it’s crashing again sorry. I bought AGQ calls for next week 🫡
I revenge traded and bought 300 of AGQ at 128 and sold at 145 so made back my losses. Just takes a good trade to make it back… and one bad to lose it all
You went full regard into AGQ didnt you? I bought more physical today. Take a parachute and a pillow
AGQ is a 2x leveraged silver, if anyone did not know. ZSL is a -2x leveraged silver short.
What's the thoughts on buying AGQ this afternoon? A month ago I bought at$168 and sold at $204 thinking it moved too quick and needed to get out before it dropped. Bought another $3200 @ $170 today. Hoping for a rebound.
I lost almost the identical amount on AGQ this morning too.
Yes, AGQ was down 70% (when hitting $123).........
Just be glad you bought SLV and not AGQ
Mine was so similar to yours bro at 44k AGQ yesterday 😭😭😭
Silver 2X etf AGQ was a lot worse. Somebody sold these puts. https://preview.redd.it/drt15lstckgg1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21eb41f069d36a172c251442a55e9cbdb327d8c5
https://preview.redd.it/1y9vh4czbkgg1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4846421bf63b5c5e9bb5ebded82e5035b3be3e4 Should have shorted AGQ. I didn't either but I had to screenshot this one. Somebody owned this.
I bought some AGQ at the first layer of the 7 layer dip yesterday. At least my physical hasn't gotten any lighter!
Lmao AGQ.. it’s over for you bro
remortgage my house, took all the credit card debt i could, sell my children to the talibans, then put it all into a margin account and buy Calls on Calls on AGQ. guess who is too broke to order a chair and a rope of amazon?
Fuck SLV, I was holding AGQ overnight. Double fucked
I stopped buying near term calls, I always lose lol. I bought in slv back in December with a Jan 2027 expiration and sold today and rolled profits into AGQ. Idk if that was the right decision tho😬
True. But... Kickin myself for not throwing some into AGQ before close.