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Blue Origin Raising First Outside Capital, Seeking $10B at a $130B Valuation
From Artemis To The Battlefield: Why $LUNR, $FLY, $SIDU, $PDYN And $BKSY No Longer Belong To Separate Stories
Golden Dome Is No Longer Just A Slogan: Where The First Real Money May Go
BlackSky (NYSE: $BKSY) Deep Dive March 2026
Strait of Hormuz, Oil Surge & Dump, Trump's "Near Complete" War & Transit Security
Update to my last post: now 83% in 160 days on my high risk/small cap account.
Update to last post, and some new holdings. 83% in 5 months on my high risk account.
BKSY: Earth Observation/Golden Dome play
Am i spreading my investment too thin in these tech companies?
DD of BlackSky Tech ($BKSY) - another $PLTR?
BlackSky (BKSY) Secures $24M NGA Contract for Global AI-Powered Facility Monitoring
$BKSY – Real-Time Satellite Intelligence Play in a Volatile World
$BKSY – Real-Time Satellite Intelligence Play in a Volatile World
BKSY - Gen-3 launches + High SI
BKSY gen-3 NIIR-6 on a Leo bird
How to value loss-making companies such as BKSY and TDOC or any other company that is currently not earning a profit?
Defense and detection stocks
BKSY - when in doubt zoom out, I told you guys weeks ago this is highly shorted
💰💰💰Good morning! #premarket #watchlist 06/21 $BKSY -Awarded Five-Year Joint Artificial Intelligence Center Contract, $ADN -Power & Renewables Conference, taking place between June 22-23, in New York City, $CNVY -Convey To Be Taken Private By TPG, $VLNA -Valneva and Pfizer Enter into an Equity
💰💰💰Good morning! #premarket #watchlist 06/21 $BKSY -Awarded Five-Year Joint Artificial Intelligence Center Contract, $ADN -Power & Renewables Conference, taking place between June 22-23, in New York City, $CNVY -Convey To Be Taken Private By TPG, $VLNA -Valneva and Pfizer Enter into an Equity
$BKSY Wins 5-Year Joint Artificial Intelligence Center Contract For AI Data Readiness
💰💰💰Good morning! #premarket #watchlist 06/21 $BKSY -Awarded Five-Year Joint Artificial Intelligence Center Contract, $ADN -Power & Renewables Conference, taking place between June 22-23, in New York City, $CNVY -Convey To Be Taken Private By TPG, $VLNA -Valneva and Pfizer Enter into an Equity
💰💰💰Good morning! #premarket #watchlist 06/21 $BKSY -Awarded Five-Year Joint Artificial Intelligence Center Contract, $ADN -Power & Renewables Conference, taking place between June 22-23, in New York City, $CNVY -Convey To Be Taken Private By TPG, $VLNA -Valneva and Pfizer Enter into an Equity
HLBZ Mobile Scooter made in Italy with potential catalysts with strong meme potential , CEO purchased 2 million shares with 80% insider ownership , 10 mil float, reopening play with people traveling and buying more scooters , next $RDBX $BKSY $AMC $MULN $BBIG
Mobile Scooter made in Italy with potential catalysts with strong meme potential , CEO purchased 2 million shares with 80% insider ownership , 10 mil float, reopening play with people traveling and buying more scooters , next $RDBX $BKSY $AMC $MULN $BBIG
Just going to put his out there: BKSY 90M short volume on 60M float all trapped for over a week as the news was MASSIVE and it is not going down
rmicro_additions_20220603 $BKSY Added to Russell 🚀 Satellite Imagery is dramatically changing the information landscape, particularly when it comes to national security. Which is a valuable tool for information sharing and decision making
Eyes in the Skies - Alumni - Harvard Business School $BKSY
Airbus U.S. and BlackSky Commercial Smallsat Data Acquired by NASA- SPAC $BKSY NEWS That Went Under The Radar…Deal With NASA
BlackSky (BKSY) Stock: A Gem in the Growing Space Industry plus last week recent contract!
BlackSky (BKSY) Stock: A Gem in the Growing Space Industry plus last week recent contract!
Spy agency pumps billions into orbital imagery companies BlackSky, Maxar and Planet $BKSY
Spy agency pumps billions into orbital imagery companies BlackSky, Maxar and Planet $BKSY
BlackSky ($BKSY) awarded "Billions Of Dollars" In Ten-year Spy Satellite Contracts - Market Cap $215M
BlackSky ($BKSY) awarded "Billions Of Dollars" In Ten-year Spy Satellite Contracts - Market Cap $215M
BlackSky ($BKSY) awarded "Billions Of Dollars" In Ten-year Spy Satellite Contracts - Market Cap $215M
anyone heard of BKSY or have some insightful dd?
$SATL: When A Layup Turns into Squeezed Nuts
I scraped r/SPACs for the top ticker mentions in the last 24H. Here are the results (Monday April 18, 2022)
Blacksky (BKSY) looking like easy money right now.
Inspired by an earlier post, what’s a stock you’re invested in but have the least confidence in for this decade?
Contrarian Indicator? The volume of posts on this sub has seen a very, very steep decline over the past few weeks. Does this mean that maybe a bottom signal is in or near for quality Spacs, or at least de-spacs?
BKSY: I need to post about this 1 more time. I really feel like this will be a squeezer sometime in January or February. The CTB is insane at over 200%! SI is only at 9% but it is rising! Anyone have any idea why a 9% SI would warrant a 239% CTB avg?
BKSY: 52.4 million free float with a 256% CTB. Might not be ready yet but keep an eye on this! Add it to your watchlist!
New stock on NYSE threshold list today - $BKSY
I really wanted to jump into BKSY at $9.97. Now it is under $6.
Is it time to switch from growth to value investing?
What are people's thoughts on BKSY?
Comparing satellite imagery companies BKSY, DMYQ / PL, and CFV / SATL
DMYQ (Planet) and BKSY (Banksy... er Blacksky) Bear Thesis DD
DMYQ (Planet) and BKSY (Banksy... er Blacksky) Bear Thesis DD
Creating The Actual MetaVerse: Rockets Fly Moon Soon 🚀🚀🚀
Creating The Actual MetaVerse: Rockets Fly.. Moon Soon 🚀🚀🚀
Creating the Actual MetaVerse: Rockets Fly.. Moon Soon 🚀🚀🚀
Creating The Actual Metaverse: Rockets Fly, Moon Soon
BKSY-Shooting for close to the moon. (Outer Space anyways) Cost to Borrow over 400% now. Playing the run-up to the launch next Wednesday night. It’s already moving in anticipation
$BKSY-CTB is skyrocketing. Catalyst next week on launch with RKLB. Moves in sympathy with RKLB and PLTR.
$BKSY-CTB skyrocketing. IV is dropping, catalyst next week on launch with RKLY. Moves in sympathy with RKLY and PLTR.
PIPE to Float Chart (10/30/2021) - HUMA EFFECT 10/25, BKSY S-1 10/25, LILM EFFECT 10/27, ACHR EFFECT 10/26, SHPW EFFECT 10/27, VLD EFFECT 10/28, ARBE S-1 10/29, MIR S-1 10/27
$BKSY FTD (Similar to $IRNT) and short squeeze potential!
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I would add PL and BKSY to that list.
Some WSB classic favorites are at or near YTD lows.... SLV, ASTS, RKLB, BKSY, PL, ONDS, AMPX, UMAC, RCAT, etc etc etc Also mag7 are down bigly, which makes up like 40% of SP500. What does it mean and why aren't the indexes tanking, what the fuck is actually up besides chips? Fucking FedEx? FedEx and Fastenal and Micron are holding up VOO? Maybe a few healthcares?
Want to be terrified? Look at all where all these smaller space companies (RKLB, ASTS, LUNR, RDW, PL, BKSY, etc) were before December 2025, when word got out of SPCX going public. There's still a long way down from here if this was all SPCX hype!
Some fuck said BKSY at 7$ then got in shit for it because it was way below mentioning market cap, but, I defended into it a lil, like, just the tip and it felt pretty good ngl. Kinda like warm apple pie.
I have 8% of my portfolio in space related stocks largely purchased years ago so profit are already substantial (BKSY,ASTS,BWXT, RKLB). Recently bought UFO and XOVR. Am I missing out not buying spacex or property covered?
BKSY up 10% space stocks not named SPCX are gonna rip
Space stocks will blast higher: RKLB, PL, ASTS, BKSY 🚀
Space stock yolo RKLB, PL, ASTS, BKSY
Space stock yolo for max gains RKLB PL BKSY ASTS 🚀
Space stock yolo RKLB PL BKSY ASTS
I have a friend that works at RKLB (does QA machining and 3d printing stuff) and he also works on fabric patches/badges for rklb (and blacksky). So FYI there are collectible fabric patches you can buy that change routinely for RKLB/BKSY and they look cool 😁
For this week I'm in on PD, RDW, HPE, BKSY, ABTS, GDYN and FLNC. a few other too. I'm embarrassed to say I have bit of TSM that I bought at the high today.
Gonna sell enough BBVA, LUNR, BKSY, SPIR, RDW reap profit and buy ONE share of HII it dipped 30ish bucks to 308$ and sit on it. Then I'll reap more profits to be ready to buy 1 or 2 shares of SpaceX on IPO day so I can sit on the roller coaster.
But they likely won’t be selling IBM, they’ll be selling the high fliers. IBM has only just started recovering off its lows. The other space stocks like PL, BKSY, RDW, FLY might take a hit. If the market goes parabolic into the SPCX IPO it will be a great low risk opportunity to buy puts in SMH and QQQ.
I sold a lot of good stocks like GOOG at 200, BKSY at 20, ONDS at 2, AMD at 120, GEV at 550, ASTS at 25, RDW at 10, etc. and sold a lot of stocks that went to shit like AIIO, ARBE, EOSE and others at high pices, you can win them all and it's better to just try and forget about them
Space stock yolo just getting started. RKLB PL BKSY
Space stock yolo PL BKSY RDW 🚀
It'll be too late by end of June. Hop in while you can. I'm up 34% with RKLB since last week and 22% with ASTS, which I bought this morning. If you feel like gambling some more, PL, BKSY, FLY and RDW are available, but I can't find good profitable calls for them. I'll be on the lookout tomorrow, especially for RDW.
Wait for a dip on RKLB, FLY, LUNR, ASTS, PL, BKSY, etc and get in on the pre SPCX IP halo effect. Or buy GRND like all these other goys.
Why? Their Pelican satellites were supposed to have 50cm resolution but the optics design is so poor that the ground resolved distance (diffraction limited resolution) is way above a meter, which is bad for defense and many commercial apps. That’s why NRO pays Vantor and BKSY way more. The PL story is high temporal resolution, low spatial resolution. Not sure if that really wins over higher resolution long term.
Is BKSY the next PL? Seems like better tech but worse marketing.
Space stocks rally is just getting started. Spacex IPO adds tons of gas. $RKLB $PL $BKSY
Kinda misleading bc ASTS dumped multiple times before then over legitimately bad news, missed ERs, and zero execution for the entire year so far. It cratered to the 60s earlier this month lol. Meanwhile other small-mid space stocks LUNR, RKLB, PL, FLY, SATL, BKSY have gone up significantly more ytd and consistently grown each quarter
See I think they’re just so small in comparison that it’s not gonna be a big capital shift from current space stocks to SpaceX. Or at least to the degree it does happen, there will be a much larger wave of people who are now thinking about Space Industry and wanting to invest in alternatives to SpaceX. So nets positive for these stocks. Imo. We’ll see. I’ve got a lot of RKLB, RDW, medium amount of BKSY, ASTI, small amount of VOYG and LUNR. RKLB is and will continue to be an incredible company, RDW arguably one of the more undervalued space plays if that’s what you’re looking for. But it also ran a bunch the last couple weeks so I’d be aware of that. So has RKLB but that was because they had really good earnings.
BKSY has more room for growth than RKLB
Space stock pump just starting. Spacex IPO will drive RKLB PL BKSY much much higher
I did manage a good entry into BKSY this morning I think. Come join me, I think there's still lots more upside.
I've had BKSY on my watchlist for ages. It hadn't done anything for a while, and then when it started breaking out from it's range I didn't have any spare capital at the time Would like a bit more pull back to get in now, but I think I might just jump in today either way.
Buy all the space stocks through the IPO: RKLB, BKSY, RDW, PL
Spacex IPO will pump RKLB PL BKSY
Yeah, that’s my worry with $SATL and $BKSY. They’ve had good runs but may crater to shit
Space stocks can’t be stopped $RKLB $PL $BKSY Specex IPO will add fuel to this rally
draftking, RkLB, Sofi, ASTS, BKSY
I’ve been following Redwire RDW and Blacksky BKSY both of whom work with and supply for RocketLab.
LUNR is just getting started, but maybe wait for a pullback. MDA is a solid winner. Already profitable space company with a market cap similar to LUNR. KRMN has pulled back like 40% from highs and around 50% from price target of $125. I think BKSY is just getting started and is currently sub $2B market cap. I’m heavy into HIVE right now for several reasons. You can see my DD on wsb
Spacex IPO pushes space stocks way higher - PL, RKLB, BKSY
PL! Good one! Also watching YSS BKSY LUNR
My whole port is ripping today $SATL $IDR $UUUU $BKSY $AZZ $ASTS $CDE $NNE $DBA
LUNR, BKSY, FLY, JOBY, RKLB, SHLD…. whaddabout these?
ASTS PL BKSY SPIR all space stuff crazy right now
BKSY needs to get fucked
Thanks for murdering the space sector, BKSY 🙄.Half expecting RKLB to do the same....
BKSY earnings blew, but guidance raised so I am buying more.
Damn… your post was a real Step-in-Time lol ;) This is the answer. $MNTS and $SIDU are the red headed stepchildren of the space industry. Like $SATL, $BKSY, $LUNR, and of course $ASTS before them…they will have their moment!
Dude it’s the whole space sector. LUNR, BKSY, PL all of em. I just can’t look at my port right now.
PDYN I have been circling around an entry point for the past few weeks. BKSY imo has already run but waiting for things to cool on an entry point
PDYN makes AI brains that let robots and drones actually think and react instead of just following a script. MRLN is building a universal AI pilot for military planes and just hit the NASDAQ with an impressive team of industry veterans. AVEX is a massive play on combat drones and loitering munitions that just went public with huge government traction. BKSY provides real-time satellite intel and they’re landing big contracts while growing way faster than other space stocks. OCUL is replacing daily eye drops with long-lasting implants for a huge market and their clinical results look great. ASPI is a sneaky way to play the AI boom because they produce the specific isotopes needed for next-gen chips and have a ton of cash.
I gave up on KSNL yesterday to buy space stocks such as RKLB, ASTS, BKSY, and LUNR. Got lucky with that timing lol.
BKSY is a great space stock nobody ever talks about it’s a reason my stock port is up more than +100% YTD
Some people never learn. It might run up temporarily but the long term visibility I weak as shit. Investable space stocks: RKLB, PL, LUNR, BKSY Sketch but undervalued RDW Sketch but could make it FLY Just sketch: SPCE Go buy Rocket Lab and sleep well, get rich.
$ASTS has lagged behind the other space-related stocks these past month: $RKLB, $FLY and $BKSY have all outperformed it by a wire margin
If it does work out, it’ll be a slow process. What else have you been looking at? I’ve been looking into BKSY.
I had a similar thesis on BKSY about 6 months ago. Sitting on ~200% gains so far (straight shares instead of options).
What is going on with BKSY? I bought at like $22 (a small amount) and am up like 60% since then with literally no public news I can see.
LUNR or BKSY? Or are space stocks bullshit?
BKSY could have more room to run
BKSY casually up 87% YTD
Why is BKSY on a constant uptrend I don’t get it
Maybe buying BKSY puts was not the move
Thanks! Yeah I think DGXX will recover and really like Nebius too. Have a look at posts by the user retiredportfoliomgr on reddit - I found out about him because of BW getting a contract with APLD (he was/is big on BW) but he has good writeups on NLST. I like GLXY too. If you're buying shares, you won't go wrong. Ones I'd keep an eye on for the short term are FSLY, UCTT, BKSY (like you said), KOS, MU, WDC and BW.
It’s exciting to read your posts. I own DGXX too, but I paid too much for it. Still, I’m keeping it—I have time. On the other hand, I bought BKSY and Nebius at good prices (2–3x). I’ve never heard of NLST, though. GLXY might not be a ten-bagger, but it’s still a pretty safe investment (for me). It just takes time. Longer than I thought, but no problem.
ASTS BKSY FLY LUNR MAXQ PL RDW RKLB SPIR YSS Those are my current holdings in my space portfolio
It's down 56% since October but up 95% since last year. Are we going to keep leapfrogging over each other's dates to suit our respective narratives? You're welcome to carry on but I'm already bored after one round. Saying that a small-cap stock went down a few percent on the day of earnings means absolutely nothing when S&P500 hits a 6-month low and multi-billion companies are dropping far more than that. I can absolutely blame it all on the war because when I open my investment app there is a clear pattern. \- KTOS had two great announcements last week, including a $49mln contract on Thursday and still dropped over 5%. \- AVAV -5% \- BKSY -17% \- ONDS -6.8% \- UMAC -12% \- LPTH -13.5% (also an optics company with much larger market cap than KOPN) Look at the price per share of some of those companies. I don't know what the earnings figures would have had to look like for KOPN yesterday to not to drop and who was expecting them to look like that (certainly nobody who's been following the company closely enough) but to reiterate, 6% drop for a small company like that is a very small drop indeed. Also, if you look at the chart, you will see that the stock went well over 10% up on market open yesterday whereas I see no jumps of any kind for any other small-cap stock I hold - just steady downhill straight out of the gates. If the earnings were as shit as you suggest, the stock would've fallen off sharply. Also, you don't need to tell us you are down on your position - I gathered as much from how emotional you got in your post. Speculative investments clearly don't suit you and I hope KOPN has opened your eyes to that. I'd suggest you consider index funds or Coca-Cola instead.
The next PL is actually BlackSky ($BKSY), for those who know.
Focus on small-cap space stocks, especially with good earnings or guidance. I have BKSY, PL, and AMPX, which all give me pretty good returns over the past few weeks.
I think I’m waiting on a pullback to $20-$25 to snap up some shares. It’s on my space watchlist and I’ve also got BKSY and SATS too.
Nice job man! Love this stock. Just discovered it around 6 mos ago bought 50 shares at around $9 and dca more on the way up..not many good dips in a while. Currently my favorite stock of my 150. Other favs I've been in for a bit longer APLD RKLB ONDS RCAT UMAC PL BKSY NBIS IREN APLD..familiar cast of reddit characters. Fun finding a gem on the earlier side when they hit pay dirt. Makes you feel like a genius but much luck involved. We tend to not mention the ones that haven't worked out..so far.
Those who realise the content I produce is not AI. Hope you bought ATEX, BKSY when I called it.
Space stocks in general are printing money for investors. Go look at the 2-year charts for RKLB, BKSY, LUNR, PL, ASTS, etc.
Buy BKSY shares and forget. Soon to get PL treatment.
Nah. I closed all my positions in BKSY including shares.
Bough some BKSY pre market. The other ones are in mining space, might make a post if I get some time
I swear I had no idea what was going to happen, but for some reason Friday just before close I went deep on ONDS, RDW and BKSY.
its BKSY that steady pays RKLB's launch rent not ASTS
they have a steady launch book from BKSY on current equipment but that's been the case for a year. Recent tank section test implosion (non-fireball kind) pushed Neutron schedule back for safety reasons. Nobody not named SpaceX can afford a spectacular publicity faceplant. Not withstanding one supremely regarded south african ape, rocket science is normally considered a serious, careful business.
Still holding strong. LUNR, ATRO, KRMN, RKLB, ASTS, PL & BKSY (Thiel company - lfgggg).
My portfolio is based on capital conservation inlike you regards LUNR, RKLB, ATRO, KRMN, ASTS, PL, BKSY, TUNGF
One thing I can say is the possible utility of satellite stocks is a lot easier to visualize. ASTS is hyping true satellite broadband coverage. BKSY is a sat intelligence company. The use cases are much clearer and in some cases here already whereas the benefits of AI to the general public are still questionable. The billionaires pushing it so hard makes me think we will not necessarily be along for the ride.
ASTS and RKLB are the two main plays for convexity at this point, and recent declines mean prices now look very good. RDW has picks and shovels potential but right now is a mostly incoherent mashup of acquisitions led by inconsistent management without a clear vision. PL and BKSY are, IMO, the most at risk of commoditization. PL has a moat with its library of earth imaging for reference and AI training, but the barriers to launch imaging sats into orbit will continue to drop. FLY and LUNR are interesting opportunities. FLY landed its vehicle upright on the moon but its rockets keep blowing up. LUNR has landed its lunar vehicles on their sides twice in a row, but their acquisitions and leadership seem to have the credibility and coherence that RDW lacks. All that said, RKLB will be the fully integrated space company to own. ASTS will be the satellite company to own. Both have upcoming catalysts that will further collapse uncertainty that’s keeping their stock prices weighted down today. RKLB must have a successful Neutron launch. ASTS must get its constellation of sats launched and delivering demonstrably on its technology at scale. Both will be multi-baggers over years if this happens in a reasonable timeline. More so once defense applications scale as a “can’t fail” subsidy. The risk is that timing slips markedly or capital becomes a problem. Neither seems likely at this point, but it’s a non-zero probability. It will be interesting to see who in the robotics and automation space will benefit from this or other developments. In space, the prime defense companies like Lockheed and Raytheon obviously stand to benefit from industry growth, but they’re so big that the effects will be massively diluted. If I had to guess, I’d say the analogs to that in robotics and automation would be names like Honeywell, Rockwell, Caterpillar, Teradyne, ABB, etc. Off the top of my head, Symbotic would represent a decent option in warehouse automation, but I’ve done no actual research on them.
AST SpaceMobile (ASTS), EchoStar (SATS), and Viasat (VSAT). Other notable companies for space-based connectivity, data, and launch services include Rocket Lab (RKLB), Planet Labs (PL), BlackSky Technology (BKSY), and Redwire (RDW).
Almost 100% of the stock mentionned had the same pattern. Last example, BSKY mentionned around 11h30 today resulted in 709k shares sold in the next hour while the average volume per hour was 100k prior. While I don't own BKSY, I tought the price was attractive and wanted to test this theory.
Hes a partner at Sur Energy and OpenAI announced it will work with Sur Energy on Stargate Argentina. How is he going to help? Idk but a meaningful relationship regardless. Also he’s buddies with Galperin from MELI and is in the Endeavour club which is the paypal mafia of south america. Endeavour chair is edgar bronfman jr, and researching his dad’s background is fun homework. This company is very well connected politically. And they hired Kerridge from BKSY along with a raise and further invt from an inst of ~30m as part of rapid expansion. Early innings.
I never almost certainly use Ai for everything I still do use Reddit for what I used it for and Ai haven’t replaced it at all Finding great places to visit while traveling? Hidden gems? I always get the best ideas from Reddit, never from YouTube or Instagram, much better ideas when traveling come from Reddit. Using ChatGPT provide very generic results. I’ve used Reddit to invest and made a great amount of money picking stocks over the past 5 years, and learned a shitload on the way. Try to use ChatGPT to invest for you vs real people and proper due diligence, I’ve been successful with Nvidia PLTR RKLB LUNR BKSY APLD RDDT and a ton other stocks thanks to Reddit. The list goes on and on Reddit have more positive effect on my life than any other social media platform I’ve used. And here we are all of us still using it and complaining about the platform stock price.
Yep BKSY is my only green
For me its ASTS, RKLB, BKSY
Glad it worked for you! at 26-29ish I sold a bunch, bought some calls incase it continued, and then sold puts for 18$ today. Im looking to get back in with more shares at under 20, I think hard bounce if it gets to 17-18. 30 is going to be very tough to get past as thats upper limit of all shorting and short interest is still 25%. So it has to hit 30 with a lot of momentum to get past the shorts, but if it does.. watch out. There are the warrants which is expire in September which can help it hold a hard floor of just over 14$. They are also selling up to 100m of ATM equity, which can be directly redeemable to suffice for shares that are shorted. But BKSY decides the price of these. Which if looking at volume since it was announced.. I think they arent selling those for under $18 and it was helping the price stabilize over 25 before the shorters got greedy last week. I think we will see downturn continued to 18$, which is a buy signal for me. But will save buys for if it dips further. It could be a while before fighting 30 again though.
As a swing trader, everything I’m interested in buying is either endless dipping (RBRK, CSU, PGY) or hasn’t dipped enough yet after I sold the peak (ASTS, RKLB, BKSY). Fine holding my cash right now until the conditions are better.
literally any space stock. play the run up ASTS RKLB PL RDW ASTI SUUN VOYG FLY SIDU BKSY LUNR UFO ETF don’t forget to DYOR
Look at the other side of the business: $CTM, $CPSH, $KOPN, $DDD, $BBAI, $BKSY, even $GRRR.