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Invesco S&P International Developed Momentum ETF
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IDMO's expense ratio is much higher (25bps vs 5bps). 10yr total performance (price & divs) is higher for IDMO (though *not* twice), though bear in mind that future performance may not be higher.
Sorry I should've been clearer that my example was a hypothetical to illustrate the impact MER can have long term. Specific to VXUS and IDMO, as I mentioned in another comment it's something of a challenge to try and draw direct comparisons between the two. Personally when I want growth I just invest in the sectors I am knowledgeable in through stocks & ETFs and generate growth that way. Broad ETFs are how I preserve some of those earnings long term
At a quick glance it seems like a good fund. It looks like it's a bit more centred around Japan than VXUS, but their performance graphs over the last year look nearly identical, their dividends are very similar to VXUS, the sector distribution is more balanced than IDMO, and the MER is lower than VXUS'. Personally I like to get a few funds and sort of drip into all of them over time, so this might be a fun one to add to the mix
I think I’ve come to the conclusion that IDMO might be a little too volatile for my liking, not to mention it’s only 200 companies. However, VXUS’s 7500 holdings seems too high for my liking. What are your thoughts on IDEV, a nice middle ground? I realize this excludes emerging markets. However, I’m someone who’s been on the fence about international for a while now, so I figure this is at least better than nothing.
. No reason besides it will hurt some feelings investing in a fund that doesn’t start with the letter “V”. IDMO has trounced VXUS returns.
IDMO and VXUS are not apples to apples comparisons. the last 10 years doesn't necessarily predict the next 10 years.
I went predominately cash about a month ago and am fine with the decision. My accounts are still up about 9% for the year because I dumped what cash I already had into the markets mid April and that went into IDMO. June and July are usually pretty quiet anyway. I've never tried to time the market before like this but so far I'm still ahead compared to most. I think these moderate Republicans are going to make a show of this tax bill. Trump won't be signing it on July 4th
First thing that sticks out to me is that AUM is a lot smaller, if you are worried about liquidity if you want to exit your position under pressure. The 1Y beta is pretty high at 0.81 which isn't necessarily bad, but something to keep an eye on. VXUS, IDEV are far less volatile, but return less. They have much higher AUM at $493150M and $19861M compared to IDMO at $902M. Personally I have IDV on my shortlist, which performs similarly to IDMO, but less volatile, larger AUM, value category is the main difference; might want to check as an option. Since much of the markets are so interconnected, most follow the same sort of pattern at the same time. It's more a matter of finding the best performing ones with acceptable risk to you.
I don't think you're wrong, I think you're just taking a reductive view of the two funds. The calculus is not that straightforward. More notable differences between IDMO and VXUS: \- VXUS has holdings in more than 8000 stocks and funds. IDMO has 200 \- VXUS is more evenly distributed across sectors, while IDMO has a very strong emphasis on the financial/banking sector (46% financial stocks!) \- VXUS is more evenly distributed across markets, while IDMO is primarily invested in Germany, UK and Canada \- VXUS has approximately double the dividend yield of IDMO Personally if I'm after growth, I invest in individual stocks or narrow ETFs representative of sectors I believe will bring that growth. If I want stability, I'm looking at broad funds with low MER to preserve my capital. IDMO looks more tantalizing on a returns basis alone but again with even the surface level details I mentioned it becomes more challenging to to say how clear cut the advantage is, and if the heightened exposure is worth the trade off
Buying individual stocks can be stressful, doing it correctly means research and babysitting. The only stock I still hold years later is AAPL, but everything else is ETFs which helps me sleep better. Stick with the advice of almost entirely ETFs, and a small allocation to stocks so you can learn with small bets. As for ETFs, keep it simple. Since you’re young I suggest 50% S&P index like IVV or VOO, 30% IDMO for international, 10% FBTC (if you don’t like crypto then make S&P 60%, 10% individual stocks.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but fees don’t really matter when you’re doubling up your competition, right? If we are to assume the trajectories and trends of these funds are to remain the same, you’ll still make more with IDMO than VXUS, even after fees? Isn’t the net balance in the end all that matters?
IDMO has higher expense ratios and less diversification than VXUS. Past performance doesn't predict future returns. The extra fees will eat into your gains over time, especially for long term holding. VXUS + VOO is solid.
IDMO is a little more volatile, but no risk no reward. It’s been a really impressive international ETF the past 5 years. VXUS may be well diversified but the performance is a snore. Compare VXUS to IDMO, FENI, FIVA, and you’ll see how much better you can potentially do. I use FIVA in my Rollover IRA and I’m very happy with it.
IDMO’s like a meme stock with a PhD—risky flex.
IDMO is developed markets only. VXUS has both developed and emerging. Emerging may come with a risk premium compared to developed only. VXUS is broad coverage, IDMO uses momentum factor to help guide the holdings. Momentum can be a factor, but it may not be as strong as some others. >I’m basically looking for an international fund to complement my VOO. Does IDMO fit the bill? Or is that still not diversified enough? VXUS is more like VOO if only looking at IDMO vs VXUS. VEU may be even closer, as it also leaves out smaller companies like VOO does. IDMO is similar to SPMO, not VOO.
I own it and wouldn't disagree it's less diversified, but IDMO is an international, developed, ETF, MOMENTUM fund. It buys equities that are moving and likely to continue doing so. I own mid six figures and continue to buy. Past performance not being a reliable indicator can be said about anything. Nearly every int'l equity fund is outperforming today.
IDMO is the international-developed momentum fund like US based ones (MTUM being the best there), but costs more with more trading. It’s great when non-US stocks are in a bull market as the momentum is actually backwards looking, but when they fall they will fall faster too. So if using it, maybe as an adjunct and know if it’s the early vs late phase of that particular bull market. Maybe rebalance the momentum etf(s) more often as not to get caught?
I don't have the capacity to dig into the portfolios at the moment, but the standout detail is MER VXUS is 0.05%, IDMO is 0.25% For index funds, especially ones that will have similar performances, MER is a factor
A diversified portfolio is your friend. Nobody can predict the future. Past performance does not guarantee future results and yadda yadda. In fact my non-US equity funds are performing great in 2025. Yes, it is worth having foreign equity. Furthermore, don’t let the popular VXUS guide your decision. Check out IDMO and you’ll see how good foreign equity can perform.
I feel your disappointment. The Boglehead orthodox are still insisting, after the fact, that I should have been into VOO, VXUS , BND &/or AVUV over the last decade instead of SPMO, QQQ, SPLG, VGT and SMH. The situation now is in flux. Will you abandon international or retain it and dca into domestic growth? FYI: IDMO is far better than VXUS.
S&P500 is fine for US equities, but no I don’t agree with ONLY doing that. Try to put at minimum 25% allocation to a non-US equity diversified ETF. I don’t know the Canadian equivalents, but I always recommend IDMO, FENI, or FIVA. Might wanna consider a small allocation to a BitCoin ETF as well. I don’t like crypto but if think it’s here to stay.
Individual stocks are always higher risk versus ETFs or mutual funds. AAPL is the only individual stock I have anymore, but I’ve owned it for many years. CRSP has some serious potential, but I grew impatient and sold it. If NVDA or MSFT have another big dip, I might buy some, but it’s kinda silly since they already exist in most index funds. Happy to give you some favorite ETFs though. IDMO is a beast for international, and I’m fond of FIVA as well. I have a small position for ICOP. I genuinely believe copper and copper mining are a smart investment in the coming decades. FSELX is volatile but otherwise a great mutual fund for semiconductors. I contribute a little every week to FBTC. I don’t like cryptocurrency, but sadly I think it’s here to stay. I won’t deny it, it’s performed very well.
IDMO if you are disposed to do so.
The problem with the exhortations to go international is their default choice is VXUS. Off-had I can name a couole of funds that have consistently been better. IDMO definitely, and VEA.
SPMO. QQQM. VGT. If you want international check out IDMO, but i wouldn’t count on holding that interminably.
Everyone sleeps on SPMO. Also are nuts for VXUS for international, but IDMO is better IMO.
IDMO is a good idea. Compare it to other foreign ETFs.
Do you mind sharing what European stocks you're investing in? It's a different world over there that I don't know a lot about. I put a little bit in IDMO, but would love to know what others are doing?
That's what I''m doing right now: EUAD, EUFN, IDMO, IPKW Buy, set stop limit, watch the green foreign numbers offset the red American ones.
Stock prices will rise and fall based on information not yet known to us. There's no reason to expect the stocks in BKIE or IDMO to be blessed with more future good news than those in VXUS.
If you want to look at tickers off the beaten path with strong recent performance, SMH and IDMO. If you don't understand the risks with these, then I'd just stick with VOO as you originally planned.