MOAT

acadia11x

The money is in advanxed / leading edge … I just looked up that $$$’s, 90% of profits are based on EUV manufactured processors because that’s where the margins are. So while GFS may be stable they have low margins and many competitors they have no real MOAT and plenty of competitors doing the same. We saw this in DRAM in that while it was low margins 3 manufacturers control more than 90% of the global supply … so prices sky rocketed when demand increased there is a natural bottle neck and cartel like control on a business level Even if OPs idea would hold , they have no moat and their are 7 or 8 other companies globally that support the same fab processes. There are many other smaller but atleast 7 or 8 of equal size to them.

Appropriate-Fox-2347

What is Anthropic's MOAT?

ZealousidealGrab1827

Exactly. Regulatory capture and MOAT.

uncurious

Stock? You’re chilling. The elephant in the room is Google would rug alongside the rest of AI because of capex when (if) AI comes crashing down. Today is a preview of the AI crash. People are running to Google because they remember Google is Google and they have the strongest MOAT of the mag7. (Other than maybe Microsoft)

sm7196

They wanna IPO before their bubble pops. They’re legit scared of Google I bet. There’s been rumours that Google might have solved RSI. It’s not a coincidence OpenAI and Anthropic asked for this right after those Google rumours started circulating Anthropic and OpenAI don’t have any actual MOAT other than superior coding. They need to cash in asap before Wall Street realizes

hyperventilating_hoe

With AI the distribution with great product (if not the best) is the MOAT and $META $GOOGL have unparalleled distribution networks so I’ve always been bullish about them and the wall street is finally seeing it too

GloomyMembership4197

AI Winner Genius researchers Vertical Integration Buffet support Diversified Energy secured MOAT

Weekly_One8412

wen MOAT (mother of all tacos) ?

chartry0

The thing with apparels is it will go out of trend. Especially if you are way more expensive than your competitors and you don’t have a real MOAT.

Rubbyp2_

The production of automobiles is not the MOAT. If the Waymo product is safer—even marginally—Tesla being cheaper is not a competitive edge. 33 cars is a demo, not a scaled product.

Kindled808

MOAT

teddyandabe

Honestly they’re way too undervalued. Everyone thought AI will replace them, extreme stock drop, but now Wall Street is realizing their MOAT and sees that AI is only added to help support/improve their products and not to replace it. Snipped a few shares when they were in the teens not too long ago so I do not have the bullocks to buy as much as you did. TO THE MOON 🌕

gmehra

I agree thats wrong, complex companies that make it hard for you to switch with a huge MOAT such as SAP are not going to get killed by vibe coding.

Administrative-Ant75

customer owned tooling coming. Idk man also their SerDes leadership MOAT hurt by MediaTek I would long $SMTC instead NFA

iiGoodVibesii

Strongest AI MOAT, I'll admit.

Ok-Drawer5245

Lolz, OpenAI has no value. Their MOAT is gone

EquivalentParfait509

Why not buy Meta. Insane MOAT. Only thing hurting is high capex. When Zuck finally decides to scale back on CapEx the stock is gonna rip 20%

cool-lala

man that was rough and soothing at the same time I was born in '02 so a baby in front of yall thanks for sharing my teacher worked for Ken Griffin back in dot come times and he lived in Cal SF and in 08 crisis he said they did'nt had neigbors for north of 8 years. AI bubble is bigger and badder than housing one. From PE to hedge funds to pensions funds to 401ks to SpaceX crap in your retirement accounts to debt by MAG7 to fear of DeepSeek destroying the MOAT of US tech lead in AI to Iran and oil prices and so much more 2026 feels like a graduatation course in one year. Stay safe yall.

femalediesinendgame

It absolutely will, ignore the randoms, analyze the business yourself. When you have the MOAT and pricing power of META, while maintaining a 28% YOY revenue growth, AND you’re still only worth 14 times your EBITDA + have a fwd PE of 17 you’re undervalued asf.

DHCPme

AI has NO MOAT! No amount of Government intervention is going to prevent foreign undercutting.

GloomyMembership4197

SPCX + NVIDIA = Lethal Space Data Centre MOAT

CutFabulous1178

How many people here still subscribe to Netflix? What MOAT does Netflix have? What amazing IP does Netflix have?

arhambin66

What an idiot you are bro? What's the MOAT behind Lulu?? Marking up athleisure clothing when there are a more than a dozen brands out there that have a cloned supply chain which sell the same thing ah a fraction of the price. Only idiots buy Lulu full price.

No-Space6221

If you had that amount of money and didn't own Apple stock, would you buy Apple at today's price, or would you buy another company because you believe it has better long-term fundamentals? If you would buy Apple, then you already have your answer. BTW, if I were you, I wouldn't sell. Great company, strong MOAT, great fundamentals.

Old-Pomegranate3634

The smart ones been buying it. Their control over enterprise is a huge MOAT. They will eventually monetize this

femalediesinendgame

I mean if you can find me a company that has META’s MOAT, an EV/EVITDA of 10.7, a forward P/E of 13, growing revenue at 28% YOY, and all that on an operating margin of 41%, a PEG of 0.7 and an absolute fortress of a financials sheet, I’ll buy it right now. Did I even mention the ROIC sitting at 21% ? META is a fortress and idgaf how much you hate that fuckface of a CEO, I wouldn’t invite him to my birthday party either, but the numbers are there and they keep coming. This thing is going to be over 1k a piece in less than a year.

yourfavouriteguyhere

I am talking about tech clown. Anyone can make software in these days with AI. Software companies no longer have MOAT. Clowns like you is why EU is so behind USA and China.

krankovi

Yeah there's no MOAT. Me and some friends from highschool are going to even start our own chatgpt. its gunna be called tendiesAI

FarSolid7870

I agree with both you and the hunch comment except that his comment isn’t brainless. It’s a simple take but it doesn’t mean they are wrong. TSM has a history of being more conservative than its peers when it comes to building out supply. Considering that the whole industry and Taiwans economy is heavily Influenced by TSM, the consequences of over-investing is more severe for them than other chip makers. Now you could argue that nowadays, TSM can take more risks than others given how strong its MOAT is, but I still get the sense that the $100b buildout is bullish for demand. That said, I completely agree with you that this isn’t a pure demand signal. There are obvious benefits for TSM to heavily invest in the USA, many of which you already mentioned. I still view it positively because they are also building out 13 other fabs in Taiwan + the $100b USA buildout. That’s a ton of money even for them, and yes, you could argue that these investments are defensive, but considering their conservative history, my view is that: They would be investing in USA and TW significantly regardless of demand (unless they knew we were right at the peak maybe) but the amount of money they are investing makes me suspect that they do in fact have confidence in demand

zakkair

For engagement metrics, Netflix has no MOAT left for mega blockbusters. I would not be surprised we are seeing across the board declines on average viewership hours. Growth is slowing as non subscribers are likely using other alternative platforms like IPTV or torrents to bypass the hefty price hikes for full membership.

Akuda

Agreed honestly. Long term the sum of the parts are worth much more than the whole. Always wild to see companies like SpaceX, unparalleled MOAT for the record but miniscule revenue at this point. There's a reason the mag 7 are owned like 80% by institutions.

Akrylicus

It's not about the race, it's about the AI companies MOAT. Why would you spend premium on Anthropic or OpenAI when you can just connect to a cheap Open Weights model? Companies will go to the cheapest provider, no matter if it is Google, AWS, MSFT or Alibaba Cloud. This will increase the pricing wars to make all that infra spend pay for itself.

winpickles4life

MOAT They have a new type of satellite architecture, while most others are modifying a 1960’s design (control module + solar fins. They were first and have the patents that forced Starlink to a lower orbit (more satellites that need to replaced 2x as often. AST needs to launch 330 satellites to achieve 200 Mbps per cell, while Starlink needs to launch 15,000 to reach 150 Mbps. That works out to 14x the mass (14x the launch) that needs to be replaced every 5 years instead of 10-15. Bent pipe vs. proprietary network that collects user eSIMs Data sovereignty issues with Starlink and others

Far-East-locker

another comment that buried deep and i would like to bring it up \- Anthropic and OpenAI could integrate targeted ads based on the discussed topic quite easily. My respond If you go that way, Google MOAT is DEEP DEEP DEEP Not only Google have a head start with years of your data, which Anthropic and OpenAI will not likely to get unless they start asking you personal question. Google also have Google Analytics, which basically tracking the whole internet, that browsing data is something Anthropic and OpenAI will never get. AI Chat is the missing dot, but it is the whole eco-system that make Google unbreakable And the Android platform, do you think there will be a third platform in the future?

Far-East-locker

If you go that way, Google MOAT is DEEP DEEP DEEP Not only Google have a head start with years of your data, which Anthropic and OpenAI will not likely to get unless they start asking you personal question. Google also have Google Analytics, which basically tracking the whole internet, that browsing data is something Anthropic and OpenAI And the Android platform, do you think there will be a third platform in the future?

Top_Category_2526

Shitty ass market, cooked CPI, Cooked Unemployment, fake economy, rubbish companies with 0 MOAT going 3000% per minute and the goverment pumping the market for fun

One_Advantage_7193

And their MOAT in parallel and sinking bunch of their verticals in the process.

Accidental-Genius

Name another corporation whose technology is literally required to keep aircraft in the sky, surgical suites operating, and water plants operational? If Microsoft just goes away overnight people will literally die. I don’t think there is a bigger MOAT than that.

bam2350

Explain, please. What if that is 400 trades that are all purchases? Using my taxable brokerage account as an example, in the last roughly 11 years I have recorded 533 "trades", however less than 10% of them were sales. I hold 50 different tickers. 75% of the value is in only 10 tickers including VOO, VTI, MOAT, SGOV, CAT, and NVDA. My last two sales were QQQM due to the SpaceX concern and some SGOV to free up cash to invest in the Iran related dip in March. Am I investing or am I trading?

Diligent_Fondant6761

bers are ----, where else can a LLM get such crucial info? this is reddit's MOAT

DickMcCheese

You go back to your parents and show them: “You can’t time the market. The gurus don’t know shit.” There is a guy call ‘Mr. Fired Up Wealth’ that has a great strategy I agree wit in regards to timing the market. “Time in the market is better than time in the market. Spread your money around as such: 1. ETF/Mutual funds. VOO/VTI/QQQ there are plenty more. 2. Blue Chip. Apple, Nvidia, TWSC. 3. Medium Cap. $2-10 Billion companies. 4. Spec stocks. 5. Crypto. Bitcoin specifically, but then a small percent in spec crypto (very small percent). Learn fundamentals. Revenue/Earnings, P/E, leadership, MOAT, support levels in charts, potential for growth/problem solving in sectors, etc. There are more people losing everything going full port into stocks/0dte trading chasing a gambling/high, early retirement. Get in the market. Diversify. Invest every month a portion of your income. Take advantage of every tax credit you can Trad IRA, 401k. Anything to lower your “income” while also investing. Play the game AND make your money work for you. Be patient. Keep money aside for crashes/dips. The market is at all time highs. There will be a correction. The “gurus” are guessing maybe 2027. It’s a guess.

RealPennyMuncher

Took a starter position on DIS down here. MOAT

BarRepresentative653

ALready SpaceX is being valued like its going to do all the things it said it would do. So even if they do them, they literally cant reach revenues to justify valuations even when they are profitable. Its CISCO, but led by imbecile on heavy drugs. Also, CISCO was valued at ridiculous levels, but what happened? They never grew into their valuations, everyone knew that internet would explode and we would need everything they sold, but they stagnated for like 15 years, and competitors came in and started gaining market share. Also SpaceX doesnt have insurmountable MOAT. Every country worth talking about are seeing the humiliation Russia is facing because of their lack of a Starlink equivalent. A majority are already making plans on launching their own, and private companies are also doing this.

EngineerElectrical73

You are right, but for Tesla. In the mega competitive EV market now much of the investors hope is Elon's ability to transition it to robotics, AI, whatever. SpaceX is another case. It is probably already the most important U.S company with its launch abilities, has a large MOAT and it seems like Gwyne Shotwell is doing great by running day to day operations.

egauifan

OpenAI started this with their 40% RAM bookings. Thank god even the latest anthropic AI doesn't have a big MOAT.

RandomC6

He made a bald claim with the shitty headline. The stock universe covers more than 20,000 stocks. So by random chance, META would have a 0.005% chance to be "the best pick out there now" assuming 20,000 stocks only, so a chance near zero, making my response have a likelihood of almost 100% being right. But since you were so offended by my post and you made the extra effort for such a long critique, here is some helpful input for you as you seem to be interested in the company: If you were to compare META within the Mag7 fundamentally, yes, there is some potential, but other members show much higher earnings growth and profitability. However, P/E is low and their MOAT is good with social media apps. Sentiment is also weak, since brokers were downgrading the stock after the last earnings report, hence less institutional flows. Weak sentiment is followed by weak technicals, so overall there are a couple warning signals, making this highly unlikely to be "the best pick out there now".

AnnArchist

Its one of 2 things- 1) A Grift. 2) Exceptionally underpriced. We're talking about fucking outer space. The tech that has to be developed to get into space is wild and has applications here on Earth (Velcro, for example, thanks NASA). Aside from the tech they will develop simply out of necessity for their mission, opening up the frontier of space for resource gathering of any sorts will, long term, be of a value that we can't easily quantify. Being an early mover in the space gives them a major competitive edge. Their inherent MOAT is that it takes a multi billionaire to even enter the market. No one can build and launch a rocket into space safely from their garage. You can't just enter the market and if you try to - they have leverage with the government to keep you out of that space. Their only real competition will be Richard Branson's company and other governments. For decades. They could potentially have a colony on the moon or a space station by then, which they could lease to other countries for basically whatever price they want to demand if they wish to enter in the space race. They've already shown they can cut costs in ways NASA never could - with reusable rockets for example. They also aren't bound by the same red tape or budget constraints found in government agencies. So if its not a grift, its a fucking path to retirement potentially. If they can deliver - its worth every penny and probably a lot more. If they can't, its because it was and is a grift.

RealPennyMuncher

Starter in CHWY today. Find me a pet owner that doesn’t use it. I’ll find you a bad pet owner. That’s called a MOAT

loriz3

We have no idea if having the top model is a MOAT because there hasn’t really been any withstanding top model yet. Anthropic is maybe taking a slight lead but that’s no guarantee they will stay ahead. It’s a gamble. Nobody can know for sure. But if the gamble pays off it will be incredibly huge. Right now it’s a balance between cost and capability, but no one can know what the case is in 10 years.

loriz3

Because this may be the smarter move? There is no guarantee how well having the top frontier ai model is any kind of MOAT. Since the launch of chatgpt we see different models be the ”best” every couple of months while being highly unprofitable. Just looking at the stock market you can see picks and shovels having been a very succesful play, insane stock returns while valuation metrics necessarily haven’t changed. Meanwhile AI model companies are still just as expensive.

Extreme_Marketing865

The MOAT is the shear capital it requires to set it up.

Fun_Purpose6972

What exactly is Anthropic's MOAT? What can they do that some open source model won't be able to do, eventually?

Porcupinesolos

You really thought a cyclical commodity stock would surpass a social media giant with the widest distribution MOAT? Memory prices will not stay this high forever since it’s inefficient. $MU to 300

Far_Prize3880

if there's a company with a MOAT, its YouTube.

skystarmen

You're only about \~4 years too late to discover this hidden Gem TSMC Wait until you hear about this other AI stock with a huge MOAT, NVDA! WSB is truly magical lmao

FarSolid7870

Y’all probably set it up poorly, or you complain about every established enterprise software platform. It’s actually a bullish argument for NOW that some investors think it matters that random SN users complain about hating the product. 1. The SN experience is highly contingent on how it’s set up. The beauty of the product is how many options it gives you and how great it is if you put in the time and money into setting it up well. If you don’t however, there could be issues. 2. Every established enterprise software company gets hate for a couple reason. The first is simply that if a product has millions of users, there will probably be some people complaining on Reddit. The second is that these companies often have deep moats and are very sticky. They can get away with keeping parts of their product dated because they know their customers won’t leave. This is frustrating for a user, but it’s actually a bullish signal and reflection of a MOAT for investors

Marko-2091

I would say the space industry (ASTS, RKLB, etc). Many are shitting on SpaceX but after NG's failure, their MOAT is untouchable. 3T MCap

Standard_Eggplant_64

Why no MOAT

Standard_Eggplant_64

I like $RDDT at this price. Strong MOAT. Growing monthly. And has a few untapped monetization strategies

Brubiu

It’s a shit stock that is trading on hype and momentum. Could easier go higher, but it has no fundamentals or MOAT to back it up and is trading at a PE above 100. Good luck to you. Just don’t be standing around when the music stops.

Tank_full_of_dank

Robinhood's product velocity is a MOAT. I'm confident theyll introduce features by the time the great wealth transfer happens that will at the very least match the research tools and features, if not beat them

anthony446

what is their MOAT?

djai50

I like the stock, has a little bit of MOAT and undervalued at the moment… software stocks will be loved again, just don’t know when.

Ambitious-Peace3007

MS has more MOAT than you realize. Windows platform is the basis of a lot of software around the world. I am in tech btw.

Muted_Wasabi_1284

Teams kinda sucks too bro lol outlook search literallt doesn’t work. They’re so lucky they’re a MOAT rn

BillyShears2015

MOAT is upon us. Mother of all 🌮

melvinzee

MOAT - Mother of all Tacos , coming today?

FatFluffyFish

We need the MOAT (mother of all tacos) to turn this market around. How about announcing US pulls out of EYERAN eh

SupplyNinjaTwitter

I want to own it, but at almost $300/share, all if not more than all future progress is already baked into the price. So where is the upside in the next few years? How much business are they going to actually gain with their new style of chips? Inference seems to be where chips are going, but what if Nvidia builds a chip like theirs (they have the money to)? What if NVDA does it better? What would that look like for an ultra-inflated valuation stock like this? It is so risky. I want to own it, but I think i will be sitting this one out. I am up over 1500% on my first NVDA buy. They had real MOAT. I am not sure about Cerebras. Not saying they don't... just saying I am not sure they do.

Accidental-Genius

Why? Unless you’re day trading or retiring tomorrow GOOGL is as safe a play as you can make in the tech sector. Their MOAT is basically an ocean.

BambiEnyoyer

Zuck needs to show who is boss. $NBIS is a capital intensive business with low margins and should NEVER outperform a high MOAT software company growing at 33%.

EquivalentOne241

At some point the MOAT will end and squeeze the margins. You can't keep charging $40,000 for a high-end GPU forever when other AI companies are building their own TPUs/CPUs much cheaper, while AMD is catching up on the GPU game. Numbers just don't add up. Also, who will need all this AI computing when people can't even afford to build or buy PCs due to skyrocketing RAM and storage prices?

Puzzleheaded-Date576

Only a few people on this thread are talking about this… NATIONAL SECURITY.. THE MOAT IS NATIONAL SECURITY. THE UNITED STATES CANNOT RELY ON TSMC. CANT HAPPEN.

Puzzleheaded-Date576

No, no they can’t. And THAT is a factor most people aren’t factoring in. US National Security is reliant on intel being successful. THAT is their MOAT.

OkEnd9276

AAPL keeps reaching ATH because of its physical MOAT to deploy AI. MSFT which has the same physical MOAT to deploy AI… market says to fuck off

Legitimate-File-248

Microsoft is a shit stock. Terrific company, beautiful earnings, solid strong MOAT, fortress balance sheet. Has everything but you just happen to have bought options in a manipulated stock. Sorry king

Technical-Emu-32

New term, MOAT (Mother Of All Tacos) 🌮

Noble_Bastard

AI will destroy their MOAT.

psydis

The demand for memory chips has been increasing and won't be going down anytime soon. Even if the production is catching up and the market pressure is released, the demand stays on a higher level. NVIDIA is slowly losing their software MOAT and TPU usage is increasing because of the higher efficiency.

Antaxas

In finance its very difficult if not impossible to create a sticky MOAT. This company is worth 42 million has even less revenue that is shrinking while suffering heavy losses. Woth the share price being 0.12 on nasdaq, they face delisting when they stay below a dollar a share, so a reverse split is heavily likely if they want to stay listed. Reverse splits have shown to be devastating to the majority of companies going through one. I 100% would not bet on that company because their CEO is trying to safe face. And i 1000% wouldn't bet all my money on it. Its a micro stock.... Please re-evaluate and diversify. It isn't worth to be greedy here, the risk is just too unbalanced

Avidtrader81

Google is the MOAT or being close to owning the MOAT in multiple industries within tech.

ritalin-

We're so back. But! They finally figured out their MOAT and it isn't what they thought.

THATxBLACKxJEW

I mean it depends what you want AI to do. AMAZON IMO probably has the biggest MOAT in regards to AI automation. I don’t think any company in the world will be able automate as efficiently and in the scale as them.

TotalBismuth

There are too many AI models. And you can even run your own. I don’t see them having any kind of MOAT to justify their valuation.

Lil_Hater112

Cerebras MOAT is much more valuable than NBIS moat

TibbersGoneWild

monopoly/duopoly's can change, especially since their MOAT isnt tangible. Just look at FICO.

PARABOLIC-Explorer

$CRCL the future of how money will move- Deepening / sticky MOAT.

PARABOLIC-Explorer

In at $CRCL at $63 ran it up to 130 and did not sell. Huge MOAT forming with regulatory coupled with Arc Main Net.

Slaxle

The risk in just copying someone else's portfolio is not having the research, mentality, or knowledge this person has. This person knows enough about these companies to know why they believe in them long term probably knows to get out of certain things happen to reduce MOAT or market competition or vision of the company ECT. Can you say the same? Also maybe this individual bought these stocks on dips or at good entry points which does not necessarily mean they are currently a good deal to purchase. Stock market is very personalized. If you are a noob invest in total market or hire someone to manage your funds and investments for you

Correct_Advice3457

This next move you about to witness is what we call the **MOAT:** . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . **M**other **O**f **A**ll **T**acos

daisymoth9

this is going to be the MOAT

Retaining-Wall

Somebody is doing shit tonight. Even if he does the MOAT, I suspect 👁️🏃 will start getting unrestrained on the energy infra.

teh_herper

Gonna need a MOAT (Mother of All Tacos) soon

FxkCanA

Basically lmao It got ahead of itself for sure. But it’s also got a strong MOAT and China isn’t going to let up its critical minerals control. So long long term I’m a believer

Transportation-Apart

Competitors will move to inferior products if your price is too high. I think their MOAT is overly stated.

Amdvoiceofreason

Forward PE ratio is around 18 so yea it's definitely oversold. Now add in that WIDE MOAT and potential long term growth with Ai adaption and this could be at $700 a share by 2030

Icy-Necessary3904

Generally hard as most companies in the S&P are a mix of different sectors, so there is underlying risk each sector. However, if you look into the forensics of companies, you can find a true MOAT that can deviate outside of the market. For example, I see a lot of debate about energy, but some energy stocks are down, some are up. XOM was at around 160 before the war and is now at 170 despite the small move in contrast the oil prices. All companies have macro volatility as a large risk, and its more so how can you reduce your drawdowns and generate alpha over more-so just wanting to find a stock with a negative beta.

Wonderful-Savings768

Except that lower memory requirements for "good enough" LLMs mean most people will be able to run them locally on their laptops. Uncensored models, completely offline, and completely free. That means OpenAI, Gemini, Claude, etc. lose not only paying customers, but free users too. So they won't need more memory to run their servers, even if they improve their models substantially. Right now you can run an LLM locally with a PC that costs under $2000 and it will serve you just as well if not better than the subscription models. THERE IS NO MOAT.

Old_Imagination_2112

That’s why you buy huge MOAT stocks like Union Pacific, P and G, JNJ, KO. I wish they WOULD drop an insane level as I’d buy like a wolf getting steak.

banff_lover

PE is mostly irrelevant for a growth stock. Question is does it have a MOAT? Can it survive the ad competition from META, Alphabet, Amazon? Forward PE is based on assumption of forward growth which is unpredictable. Could it be a great buy? Sure but there are many better stocks with same growth profile.