MOAT

zakkair

For engagement metrics, Netflix has no MOAT left for mega blockbusters. I would not be surprised we are seeing across the board declines on average viewership hours. Growth is slowing as non subscribers are likely using other alternative platforms like IPTV or torrents to bypass the hefty price hikes for full membership.

Akuda

Agreed honestly. Long term the sum of the parts are worth much more than the whole. Always wild to see companies like SpaceX, unparalleled MOAT for the record but miniscule revenue at this point. There's a reason the mag 7 are owned like 80% by institutions.

Akrylicus

It's not about the race, it's about the AI companies MOAT. Why would you spend premium on Anthropic or OpenAI when you can just connect to a cheap Open Weights model? Companies will go to the cheapest provider, no matter if it is Google, AWS, MSFT or Alibaba Cloud. This will increase the pricing wars to make all that infra spend pay for itself.

winpickles4life

MOAT They have a new type of satellite architecture, while most others are modifying a 1960’s design (control module + solar fins. They were first and have the patents that forced Starlink to a lower orbit (more satellites that need to replaced 2x as often. AST needs to launch 330 satellites to achieve 200 Mbps per cell, while Starlink needs to launch 15,000 to reach 150 Mbps. That works out to 14x the mass (14x the launch) that needs to be replaced every 5 years instead of 10-15. Bent pipe vs. proprietary network that collects user eSIMs Data sovereignty issues with Starlink and others

Far-East-locker

another comment that buried deep and i would like to bring it up \- Anthropic and OpenAI could integrate targeted ads based on the discussed topic quite easily. My respond If you go that way, Google MOAT is DEEP DEEP DEEP Not only Google have a head start with years of your data, which Anthropic and OpenAI will not likely to get unless they start asking you personal question. Google also have Google Analytics, which basically tracking the whole internet, that browsing data is something Anthropic and OpenAI will never get. AI Chat is the missing dot, but it is the whole eco-system that make Google unbreakable And the Android platform, do you think there will be a third platform in the future?

Far-East-locker

If you go that way, Google MOAT is DEEP DEEP DEEP Not only Google have a head start with years of your data, which Anthropic and OpenAI will not likely to get unless they start asking you personal question. Google also have Google Analytics, which basically tracking the whole internet, that browsing data is something Anthropic and OpenAI And the Android platform, do you think there will be a third platform in the future?

Top_Category_2526

Shitty ass market, cooked CPI, Cooked Unemployment, fake economy, rubbish companies with 0 MOAT going 3000% per minute and the goverment pumping the market for fun

One_Advantage_7193

And their MOAT in parallel and sinking bunch of their verticals in the process.

Accidental-Genius

Name another corporation whose technology is literally required to keep aircraft in the sky, surgical suites operating, and water plants operational? If Microsoft just goes away overnight people will literally die. I don’t think there is a bigger MOAT than that.

bam2350

Explain, please. What if that is 400 trades that are all purchases? Using my taxable brokerage account as an example, in the last roughly 11 years I have recorded 533 "trades", however less than 10% of them were sales. I hold 50 different tickers. 75% of the value is in only 10 tickers including VOO, VTI, MOAT, SGOV, CAT, and NVDA. My last two sales were QQQM due to the SpaceX concern and some SGOV to free up cash to invest in the Iran related dip in March. Am I investing or am I trading?

Diligent_Fondant6761

bers are ----, where else can a LLM get such crucial info? this is reddit's MOAT

DickMcCheese

You go back to your parents and show them: “You can’t time the market. The gurus don’t know shit.” There is a guy call ‘Mr. Fired Up Wealth’ that has a great strategy I agree wit in regards to timing the market. “Time in the market is better than time in the market. Spread your money around as such: 1. ETF/Mutual funds. VOO/VTI/QQQ there are plenty more. 2. Blue Chip. Apple, Nvidia, TWSC. 3. Medium Cap. $2-10 Billion companies. 4. Spec stocks. 5. Crypto. Bitcoin specifically, but then a small percent in spec crypto (very small percent). Learn fundamentals. Revenue/Earnings, P/E, leadership, MOAT, support levels in charts, potential for growth/problem solving in sectors, etc. There are more people losing everything going full port into stocks/0dte trading chasing a gambling/high, early retirement. Get in the market. Diversify. Invest every month a portion of your income. Take advantage of every tax credit you can Trad IRA, 401k. Anything to lower your “income” while also investing. Play the game AND make your money work for you. Be patient. Keep money aside for crashes/dips. The market is at all time highs. There will be a correction. The “gurus” are guessing maybe 2027. It’s a guess.

RealPennyMuncher

Took a starter position on DIS down here. MOAT

BarRepresentative653

ALready SpaceX is being valued like its going to do all the things it said it would do. So even if they do them, they literally cant reach revenues to justify valuations even when they are profitable. Its CISCO, but led by imbecile on heavy drugs. Also, CISCO was valued at ridiculous levels, but what happened? They never grew into their valuations, everyone knew that internet would explode and we would need everything they sold, but they stagnated for like 15 years, and competitors came in and started gaining market share. Also SpaceX doesnt have insurmountable MOAT. Every country worth talking about are seeing the humiliation Russia is facing because of their lack of a Starlink equivalent. A majority are already making plans on launching their own, and private companies are also doing this.

EngineerElectrical73

You are right, but for Tesla. In the mega competitive EV market now much of the investors hope is Elon's ability to transition it to robotics, AI, whatever. SpaceX is another case. It is probably already the most important U.S company with its launch abilities, has a large MOAT and it seems like Gwyne Shotwell is doing great by running day to day operations.

egauifan

OpenAI started this with their 40% RAM bookings. Thank god even the latest anthropic AI doesn't have a big MOAT.

RandomC6

He made a bald claim with the shitty headline. The stock universe covers more than 20,000 stocks. So by random chance, META would have a 0.005% chance to be "the best pick out there now" assuming 20,000 stocks only, so a chance near zero, making my response have a likelihood of almost 100% being right. But since you were so offended by my post and you made the extra effort for such a long critique, here is some helpful input for you as you seem to be interested in the company: If you were to compare META within the Mag7 fundamentally, yes, there is some potential, but other members show much higher earnings growth and profitability. However, P/E is low and their MOAT is good with social media apps. Sentiment is also weak, since brokers were downgrading the stock after the last earnings report, hence less institutional flows. Weak sentiment is followed by weak technicals, so overall there are a couple warning signals, making this highly unlikely to be "the best pick out there now".

AnnArchist

Its one of 2 things- 1) A Grift. 2) Exceptionally underpriced. We're talking about fucking outer space. The tech that has to be developed to get into space is wild and has applications here on Earth (Velcro, for example, thanks NASA). Aside from the tech they will develop simply out of necessity for their mission, opening up the frontier of space for resource gathering of any sorts will, long term, be of a value that we can't easily quantify. Being an early mover in the space gives them a major competitive edge. Their inherent MOAT is that it takes a multi billionaire to even enter the market. No one can build and launch a rocket into space safely from their garage. You can't just enter the market and if you try to - they have leverage with the government to keep you out of that space. Their only real competition will be Richard Branson's company and other governments. For decades. They could potentially have a colony on the moon or a space station by then, which they could lease to other countries for basically whatever price they want to demand if they wish to enter in the space race. They've already shown they can cut costs in ways NASA never could - with reusable rockets for example. They also aren't bound by the same red tape or budget constraints found in government agencies. So if its not a grift, its a fucking path to retirement potentially. If they can deliver - its worth every penny and probably a lot more. If they can't, its because it was and is a grift.

RealPennyMuncher

Starter in CHWY today. Find me a pet owner that doesn’t use it. I’ll find you a bad pet owner. That’s called a MOAT

loriz3

We have no idea if having the top model is a MOAT because there hasn’t really been any withstanding top model yet. Anthropic is maybe taking a slight lead but that’s no guarantee they will stay ahead. It’s a gamble. Nobody can know for sure. But if the gamble pays off it will be incredibly huge. Right now it’s a balance between cost and capability, but no one can know what the case is in 10 years.

loriz3

Because this may be the smarter move? There is no guarantee how well having the top frontier ai model is any kind of MOAT. Since the launch of chatgpt we see different models be the ”best” every couple of months while being highly unprofitable. Just looking at the stock market you can see picks and shovels having been a very succesful play, insane stock returns while valuation metrics necessarily haven’t changed. Meanwhile AI model companies are still just as expensive.

Extreme_Marketing865

The MOAT is the shear capital it requires to set it up.

Fun_Purpose6972

What exactly is Anthropic's MOAT? What can they do that some open source model won't be able to do, eventually?

Porcupinesolos

You really thought a cyclical commodity stock would surpass a social media giant with the widest distribution MOAT? Memory prices will not stay this high forever since it’s inefficient. $MU to 300

Far_Prize3880

if there's a company with a MOAT, its YouTube.

skystarmen

You're only about \~4 years too late to discover this hidden Gem TSMC Wait until you hear about this other AI stock with a huge MOAT, NVDA! WSB is truly magical lmao

FarSolid7870

Y’all probably set it up poorly, or you complain about every established enterprise software platform. It’s actually a bullish argument for NOW that some investors think it matters that random SN users complain about hating the product. 1. The SN experience is highly contingent on how it’s set up. The beauty of the product is how many options it gives you and how great it is if you put in the time and money into setting it up well. If you don’t however, there could be issues. 2. Every established enterprise software company gets hate for a couple reason. The first is simply that if a product has millions of users, there will probably be some people complaining on Reddit. The second is that these companies often have deep moats and are very sticky. They can get away with keeping parts of their product dated because they know their customers won’t leave. This is frustrating for a user, but it’s actually a bullish signal and reflection of a MOAT for investors

Marko-2091

I would say the space industry (ASTS, RKLB, etc). Many are shitting on SpaceX but after NG's failure, their MOAT is untouchable. 3T MCap

Standard_Eggplant_64

Why no MOAT

Standard_Eggplant_64

I like $RDDT at this price. Strong MOAT. Growing monthly. And has a few untapped monetization strategies

Brubiu

It’s a shit stock that is trading on hype and momentum. Could easier go higher, but it has no fundamentals or MOAT to back it up and is trading at a PE above 100. Good luck to you. Just don’t be standing around when the music stops.

Tank_full_of_dank

Robinhood's product velocity is a MOAT. I'm confident theyll introduce features by the time the great wealth transfer happens that will at the very least match the research tools and features, if not beat them

anthony446

what is their MOAT?

djai50

I like the stock, has a little bit of MOAT and undervalued at the moment… software stocks will be loved again, just don’t know when.

Ambitious-Peace3007

MS has more MOAT than you realize. Windows platform is the basis of a lot of software around the world. I am in tech btw.

Muted_Wasabi_1284

Teams kinda sucks too bro lol outlook search literallt doesn’t work. They’re so lucky they’re a MOAT rn

BillyShears2015

MOAT is upon us. Mother of all 🌮

melvinzee

MOAT - Mother of all Tacos , coming today?

FatFluffyFish

We need the MOAT (mother of all tacos) to turn this market around. How about announcing US pulls out of EYERAN eh

SupplyNinjaTwitter

I want to own it, but at almost $300/share, all if not more than all future progress is already baked into the price. So where is the upside in the next few years? How much business are they going to actually gain with their new style of chips? Inference seems to be where chips are going, but what if Nvidia builds a chip like theirs (they have the money to)? What if NVDA does it better? What would that look like for an ultra-inflated valuation stock like this? It is so risky. I want to own it, but I think i will be sitting this one out. I am up over 1500% on my first NVDA buy. They had real MOAT. I am not sure about Cerebras. Not saying they don't... just saying I am not sure they do.

Accidental-Genius

Why? Unless you’re day trading or retiring tomorrow GOOGL is as safe a play as you can make in the tech sector. Their MOAT is basically an ocean.

BambiEnyoyer

Zuck needs to show who is boss. $NBIS is a capital intensive business with low margins and should NEVER outperform a high MOAT software company growing at 33%.

EquivalentOne241

At some point the MOAT will end and squeeze the margins. You can't keep charging $40,000 for a high-end GPU forever when other AI companies are building their own TPUs/CPUs much cheaper, while AMD is catching up on the GPU game. Numbers just don't add up. Also, who will need all this AI computing when people can't even afford to build or buy PCs due to skyrocketing RAM and storage prices?

Puzzleheaded-Date576

Only a few people on this thread are talking about this… NATIONAL SECURITY.. THE MOAT IS NATIONAL SECURITY. THE UNITED STATES CANNOT RELY ON TSMC. CANT HAPPEN.

Puzzleheaded-Date576

No, no they can’t. And THAT is a factor most people aren’t factoring in. US National Security is reliant on intel being successful. THAT is their MOAT.

OkEnd9276

AAPL keeps reaching ATH because of its physical MOAT to deploy AI. MSFT which has the same physical MOAT to deploy AI… market says to fuck off

Legitimate-File-248

Microsoft is a shit stock. Terrific company, beautiful earnings, solid strong MOAT, fortress balance sheet. Has everything but you just happen to have bought options in a manipulated stock. Sorry king

Technical-Emu-32

New term, MOAT (Mother Of All Tacos) 🌮

Noble_Bastard

AI will destroy their MOAT.

psydis

The demand for memory chips has been increasing and won't be going down anytime soon. Even if the production is catching up and the market pressure is released, the demand stays on a higher level. NVIDIA is slowly losing their software MOAT and TPU usage is increasing because of the higher efficiency.

Antaxas

In finance its very difficult if not impossible to create a sticky MOAT. This company is worth 42 million has even less revenue that is shrinking while suffering heavy losses. Woth the share price being 0.12 on nasdaq, they face delisting when they stay below a dollar a share, so a reverse split is heavily likely if they want to stay listed. Reverse splits have shown to be devastating to the majority of companies going through one. I 100% would not bet on that company because their CEO is trying to safe face. And i 1000% wouldn't bet all my money on it. Its a micro stock.... Please re-evaluate and diversify. It isn't worth to be greedy here, the risk is just too unbalanced

Avidtrader81

Google is the MOAT or being close to owning the MOAT in multiple industries within tech.

ritalin-

We're so back. But! They finally figured out their MOAT and it isn't what they thought.

THATxBLACKxJEW

I mean it depends what you want AI to do. AMAZON IMO probably has the biggest MOAT in regards to AI automation. I don’t think any company in the world will be able automate as efficiently and in the scale as them.

TotalBismuth

There are too many AI models. And you can even run your own. I don’t see them having any kind of MOAT to justify their valuation.

Lil_Hater112

Cerebras MOAT is much more valuable than NBIS moat

TibbersGoneWild

monopoly/duopoly's can change, especially since their MOAT isnt tangible. Just look at FICO.

PARABOLIC-Explorer

$CRCL the future of how money will move- Deepening / sticky MOAT.

PARABOLIC-Explorer

In at $CRCL at $63 ran it up to 130 and did not sell. Huge MOAT forming with regulatory coupled with Arc Main Net.

Slaxle

The risk in just copying someone else's portfolio is not having the research, mentality, or knowledge this person has. This person knows enough about these companies to know why they believe in them long term probably knows to get out of certain things happen to reduce MOAT or market competition or vision of the company ECT. Can you say the same? Also maybe this individual bought these stocks on dips or at good entry points which does not necessarily mean they are currently a good deal to purchase. Stock market is very personalized. If you are a noob invest in total market or hire someone to manage your funds and investments for you

Correct_Advice3457

This next move you about to witness is what we call the **MOAT:** . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . **M**other **O**f **A**ll **T**acos

daisymoth9

this is going to be the MOAT

Retaining-Wall

Somebody is doing shit tonight. Even if he does the MOAT, I suspect 👁️🏃 will start getting unrestrained on the energy infra.

teh_herper

Gonna need a MOAT (Mother of All Tacos) soon

FxkCanA

Basically lmao It got ahead of itself for sure. But it’s also got a strong MOAT and China isn’t going to let up its critical minerals control. So long long term I’m a believer

Transportation-Apart

Competitors will move to inferior products if your price is too high. I think their MOAT is overly stated.

Amdvoiceofreason

Forward PE ratio is around 18 so yea it's definitely oversold. Now add in that WIDE MOAT and potential long term growth with Ai adaption and this could be at $700 a share by 2030

Icy-Necessary3904

Generally hard as most companies in the S&P are a mix of different sectors, so there is underlying risk each sector. However, if you look into the forensics of companies, you can find a true MOAT that can deviate outside of the market. For example, I see a lot of debate about energy, but some energy stocks are down, some are up. XOM was at around 160 before the war and is now at 170 despite the small move in contrast the oil prices. All companies have macro volatility as a large risk, and its more so how can you reduce your drawdowns and generate alpha over more-so just wanting to find a stock with a negative beta.

Wonderful-Savings768

Except that lower memory requirements for "good enough" LLMs mean most people will be able to run them locally on their laptops. Uncensored models, completely offline, and completely free. That means OpenAI, Gemini, Claude, etc. lose not only paying customers, but free users too. So they won't need more memory to run their servers, even if they improve their models substantially. Right now you can run an LLM locally with a PC that costs under $2000 and it will serve you just as well if not better than the subscription models. THERE IS NO MOAT.

Old_Imagination_2112

That’s why you buy huge MOAT stocks like Union Pacific, P and G, JNJ, KO. I wish they WOULD drop an insane level as I’d buy like a wolf getting steak.

banff_lover

PE is mostly irrelevant for a growth stock. Question is does it have a MOAT? Can it survive the ad competition from META, Alphabet, Amazon? Forward PE is based on assumption of forward growth which is unpredictable. Could it be a great buy? Sure but there are many better stocks with same growth profile.

BetDependent6260

this appears to be MOAT..Mother Of All Tacos

woysoro

Don’t focus only on the Numbers for this one mate. Research their product, their MOAT, their process, the market, read a lot, and then decide! Don’t stop only at the revenue of a company pre revenu. You Will regret it for sure

Aviation_Space_2003

I don't want tthe stock to blast off!!! Any time it it does... I've been selling calls... I expect this to be a solid performer for many years beating market returns... This company is very thorough in their engineeirng rigor... Their management GETS IT!! They are planing the long strategic game here. There Systems will be on EVERYTRHING that goes into space... They are caputuring market share all over the spectrum and doing a lot of R&D for new concepts that is being funded by large govt and business dollars.. They have a great MOAT!! As they say.

jeeeeezik

I mean realistically why can't apple just use a free open source AI models? Like they have great hardware, probably the best and they already have a MOAT of billions customers. Those tiny qwen models are amazing and can run on every recent iphone. Moreover, their chips are the single most impressive investment they have done the past decade, capable of outperforming tons of other phones for AI (no data centers needed)

TechTuna1200

The software has never been their MOAT to begin with. So AI won't change much

alexisteha

70% of their revenue is self-managed, on premise 30% SaaS. That on 1:1, on-premise:Cloud ability on self managed is a huge MOAT against Github, but it's also more regulated, private, government, pharma, healthcare, insurance, banking... that need auditing/identity/compliance. I think the market severely under estimates this moat. Especially when these type of companies don't want to share their Data but would keep their codebase inside Airgapped infrastructure where they can train their own models. The 30% SaaS revenue is a bit more risky. 30% of the buisness is cash. I like to break things down when they come down a lot, the way I see it is they have $7 per share in cash, $10 for Self managed and $5 for SAAS. $17 is not really at risk, up to you what you believe the multiple is, but that cashflow is about as safe as a utility company. The $5 SAAS business is the fastest growing but I believe that is where the multiple compression happened. Duo Agent platform has rolled out, lets see if it does anything... it's going to be slow. like 6-9 months to see if seat shift to usage works and at $29 in ARPU, the have a lot of ceiling to play with vs. other companies.

Cool_Business_5396

IBM is trash and MSFT losing their MOAT.

speedster_5

Any thoughts on saas companies with MOAT that are over sold.

BAM_Spice_Weasel

There's no MOAT and all of the apps are hemorrhaging users. Constant cat-fishing, scammers, and tiered subscription services leave most with a pretty poor experience. Look at the 5 year stock chart, then look at it for Bumble. . . The golden years for these companies are long over. At best this is a dumpster diving play

Aggravating_Sir_4709

PUTS need to be reserved for long-term bets against companies you feel like are overpriced massively and will correct because they lack a real MOAT. DUOL a perfect example when it was trading a lot higher. Now its a coin flip.

maeynor

It’s not as straightforward. CRM was worth close to 350bn at ATH. Now it’s worth half or 175bn. The market is saying given the shock of how easy it seems that a guy in a basement with Claude can make these things on his own (albeit much lower quality now) it opens the questions to a business with resources doing it and actually being a significant competitor. And it can seemingly happen in a weekend, does not take years. This means we need to revalue future earnings based on potential increased competition in the near term. And the MOAT is now surprisingly vulnerable

PastaFanatic

Is LUMN a good optics company to buy? There are many optics companies in this sector (GLW CIEN NOK LITE etc) so I'm not sure what their MOAT is

jrex035

Bro, I bought MU at $127 last year and sold at $113. It's currently $402. I bagheld ASTS and RKLB for ages only to sell both early in their hyperbolic phases. I bought OUST and held it for years while dcaing only to sell it right before it doubled in value last year. Seems to me that more than anything this market is contrarian, prices are more determined by what people don't expect to happen than anything else. Shitcos with no revenue? Sure they deserve $100b in market cap why not? Companies steadily building their MOAT with a PE of 15? You guessed it, shedding half their market cap in a matter of months because fk you that's why

AnnArchist

It's MOAT is completely gone.

uboatcommander159

That depends a lot on your particular strengths and weaknesses, sector knowledge, investment background, willingness to do research, time horizon, risk tolerance, etc. I need more info. Personally, I would open a ROTH asap and start by adding some top growth funds - set and forget. When thats maxed open a retire acct and fund it regularly right out of your check. If you want to invest in single stocks, start learning all you can about balance sheets. Consider the investment tied up for: Lg-Caps min 3-5 yrs, M-Caps 4-7 yrs, Sm-Caps 5-8 yrs and Micro 6-10 yrs to be able to make it through downturn without selling at bottom. Larger is typically less risky but less reward. Smaller is more risky but much easier to grow a small for greater reward. Smalls are tough but you can actually find a miss-pricing in that category. In a nutshell, ideally, you want a growing company in an early enduring sector that has relatively low debt. Look for great no hype leadership with a long history of success IN THAT INDUSTRY. Ideally founder led or high insider ownership. Look at Glassdoor scores etc for high employee satisfaction. Cash on hand to manage growth as well as downturns. I like multi rev stream and some regional diversity and insulation. Look for a company with a nice advantage or MOAT that is scalable in a decent sized market. Try to make sure they dont have any legal issues and they are regulatory compliant - you dont want headline news or class-actions to crush your company. Do not get into a stock at the top that is heavily posted on social media - you have missed the big gains and simply playing musical chairs. Try to determine if the SP is reasonable - cheap is not always good, many are value traps. Avoid using PE on newer growth stocks - best to figure out how to determine P/S or how many times SP is compared to annual rev. Much of this depends on the size of a company. Example: FCF is great to lot for a large mature company but I want my smaller growth company investing all their rev back into growing the company. Sorry for rambling but there is a lot to learn. I have had MANY expensive lessons along the way.

gls2220

I think putting your money in this thing right now is stupid. AI is going to completely disrupt online learning. Maybe DUOL has a strategy for that, but investing in this company right now is just guessing that they'll figure it out. This is the definition of NO MOAT.

evi_tifa

SNAP has no MOAT. Everything they do is trash. Their app is horrible in terms of relative ease of use. I can’t run into an endless hole of reels/tiktok clips that I find funny. Facebook is more engaging. Matter of fact, Tom could do a better job with SNAP with his MySpace experience 🤣

Rough-Prior-76

PYPL doesnt have a MOAT, it really isn’t innovative compared other competition. Im tired of seeing these “youtube washed” stocks, they promise you its a double “FuNDAmenTals” but really its a value trap.

SwimRevolutionary954

HIMS biggest threat isn't big pharma. It's that it has no MOAT. There's so many other telehealth companies doing what hims is doing for cheaper. Most people who are going the non-traditional route for weight loss drugs or TRT are already price-sensitive and are going to do a bit of research and find a more inexpensive option than HIMS

Few-Horror5981

Costco is expensive but I wouldn’t short them. They have a very strong MOAT

NotoriousOne3

I’m the opposite, I’m in IT and have the “honor” to administer these products everyday and I would invest in MSFT. Why? Because no matter how shitty it gets year after year, nobody would dare to even think of moving away from it, thats how big of a MOAT they have.

Fractious_Cactus

I'm in this boat. Why bet on a team of 10 engineers when a company with billions of dollars can just do their own AND already be integrated with the world's largest businesses. I'm thinking OpenAI will be the Enron of the 2020/2030s. I definitely don't believe AI is replacing the largest SAAS companies. If anything, they'll invest in their own agents and boost their own value, creating an even stronger MOAT for competition to overcome.

Fractious_Cactus

This is my take. The companies that have billions of dollars are the most likely to expand their MOAT against smaller competitors. I'm of the belief (i'm ignorant so excuse me) that this will make the current software companies that are business infrastructure even more sticky and resilient. The seats narrative is brain-numbing.. they'll increase prices to offset seat loss and the companies will pay for it if the AI is truly that great.

Aggravating_Sir_4709

Well the positive is that they own 14% of the company, so if Anthropic wins, they also sort of win. The MOAT of Google is more than Gemini though, but if we start getting headlines like "Anthropic is eating into Gemini's share" with earnings showing a slowdown in some of the other parts of their business, then its getting re-rated fast. I just don't think its happening the next two quarters.

Aggravating_Sir_4709

Google will massively beat. They have the MOAT unlike all the others.

Straight-Fix-8434

$Hood has no MOAT. 30 price target

Ok_Perspective5407

Besides profits and growth what is your philosophy on finding a stock that’s is on sale? Or primed for a reversal after a long downturn? MOAT? FCF? EBITA? Sector tailwinds? Global or regional. Partnerships? Products? Customer base or reach globally?

West_Appeal1550

good idea, BUT let's say 3% of the 900m MAU's are paying and they are paying an average of 2 usd monthly, that is 54 million/month or 162 million per quarter. Compared to their revenue of 1.25-1.5 billion that is not enough to be a significant catalyst for a company that is dying in all other aspects of their business. Personally I won't touch the company because of them still having net debt and the lack of a strong MOAT

michael2334

I bought ZETA & PGY this week. ZETA - Marketing tech company that has been beaten up with other SAAS names. Strong history of beat and raise guidance and recently rolled out their own AI bot. Huge data MOAT that delivers big ROAS for clients. PGY - Fintech company beaten down by credit fears. Recently in the past couple weeks have signed to large forward fund flow agreements locking in some size able 2026 revenue. They basically hook their platform into large banks, give rejected clients a second look & will bundle the loans they give and sell them to private debt firms. They hold almost none of the debt themselves so their ability to scale has been massive. Both I think will be winners in 2026 / 2027