MSM

Prestigious_Chard_90

"Lowering the rates aggressively next year" is priced in. MMs buying that rumor now (while MSM has been going "crash! recession!") and then MMs going to sell that news once it does happen.

mist_kaefer

Meanwhile MSM reporting “Fed will slash interest rates. Some some random other bullshit in title that will cause people to lose interest.” “according to XYZ Finances and Associates”

Kind_Initiative_7567

But all retail has to do is buy calls and make the same money as institutions. Thing is retail always lags the market and MSM says the inverse to help it along, imo. My playbook is changing for next year. Just inverse MSM when they are euphoric, buy poots and vice versa. Gonna see how that works out.

CaIIipygian

"You fool! You can't believe the words out of Elon's mouth! He always says his companies are going to fail! You're being fed MSM narratives". Why do Elon cultists sound identical to Trump cultists? 🤣 This shit is so fucking embarrassing.

Signature111

Elon always says shit like this. Said SpaceX will go bankrupt if they don’t solve Raptor engine production issues 2 years ago. SpaceX is now the most valuable private company on Earth. Some of yall being spoon fed MSM narratives just wanna see this dude fail

qroshan

You either think in first principles or you are brainwashed by reddit/tiktok/MSM. Investing, building products or creating startups becomes incredibly easy because the vast majority of intelligent people in the western world are literally sheeple just parroting MSM. Remember when everyone was shtting on Meta/Zuck last year (I'm 100% sure you were too) Since this is WSB, proof or ban. https://i.imgur.com/drxfsSa.png

Deadriel83

Elon doesn't need their money or advertising. Hes gaining traction with the public with moves like this reinforcing the fact he can't be bought. Overall I think it'll have positive effects, the public's perception of you is 10x more important than MSM's fud.

TransLifelineCali

> ugh it's like the trump years all over again. except the trump years are still happening, concurrently we need more trump years, not less. burns down the system faster. was lovely to see all of MSM go fully mask off after 2015

Educational_Bear8125

These Zionist politicians & their accomplices who are accusing Musk of antisemitism are the same group of people that control our corporate MSM, social media & most of all the Political Talking Narratives’ which is another form of distorted propaganda since they ALL REPEAT the same B/S on media outlets.

Educational_Bear8125

What do you think? He’s referring to these pro Zionist politicians ie., Marco Rubio (R-Fl), Ted Cruz (R-TX), Schumer (D-NY), etc., our corporate MSM ie., Fox News, NYP, NYT, WP who are complicit in the Zionist Natanhayu’s ultranationalist regime that has to date murdered 15,000 Palestinians which doesn’t include thousands more maimed mentally & physically for generations to come from IDF precision phosphorus bombs. The utter destruction is heinous & the agenda is apartheid & GENOCIDE. NO EXCUSES!!!!!!!!

Normal_Tea_1896

MSM is fake news I just read twitter and reddit.

Devocean77

TSLA price growth or products/revenue growth? TSLA has way too much outside influence in its stock price imo. MSM almost singlehandedly controls the price at this point.

OgyenTibet

MSM host will never it, and so Elon had to say it agian “Go Fk yourself”. Love it

RagingUniverse-

Every time I see these articles is when I decide to buy puts on SPY or vix calls and it never fails. MSM helping the banks unload bags.

shadifackih

So on 10/27, when jobless claims came in at 221,000 with expectations at 219,000 we pumped from 409 to 430 because it was a signal fed might not hike. Today, jobless claims are 209,000 which is well below of expectations of 231,000 and MSM says doesn’t matter fed may still cut. If this is not market manipulation I don’t know what is

Cryptophorus

Butthurt socialists and corrupt MSM will tell you all sorts of bad things about him, just like they tried with Trump..

Doin_the_Bulldance

Just as an FYI, Melvin (and other hedge funds like Maplelane Capital, who was also hugely short GME) were short AMCX, not the movie chain. Depending on your source, AMC had like 20% SI (before major dilution), where AMCX had between 60 and 90% SI, and a much smaller float. And like I said the same parties were short. In hindsight it's pretty obvious that retail got played. There's a reason that virtually all MSM frantically started lumping AMC with GME; it helped to avoid fomo into an actual squeeze threat. A profitable company with a tiny float and huge short interest.

RathSauce

I agree that Argentina has a lot of issues to access. So, if at any point in time a candidate is discussing how his main advisor is a dog or how you can sell your organs, I'd be concerned whether that candidate is actually going to address the huge issues. And your boy talks about all this stuff of his own volition, like the dog (s) is brought up so much by him. Is the MSM forcing him to say it? Wishing the best for Argentina, time will tell if he will be a positive force or just make a seventh clone of his very dead dog advisor

Cryptophorus

You've been watching too much MSM. Free markets for organs are not a priority for Argentina right now. They have much bigger issues to fix after decades of socialist policies and money printing.

Freschledditor

>Rich coming from a country where the MSM and CDC conspired to shut down news about the US funding Covid. Because you heard that on the internet? Yet here you are, spread that bullshit on an American website. >Rich coming from the largest criminal enterprise on the planet Rich coming from the scam center of the world. Seethe all you want, but America is not nearly as shamelessly criminal as your shithole. "NOOOO DO NOT REDEEEEEEEM U STUPID GRANDMA!". Your country is one of the most corrupt places in the world and your government shuts down the internet and targets political opposition, whataboutism isn't going to change that, so fix your own shithole first.

DannyC07

Rich coming from a country where the MSM and CDC conspired to shut down news about the US funding Covid. Rich coming from the largest criminal enterprise on the planet >Otherwise conspiracy theories are a hobby for worthless morons who have nothing to be proud of. You already are without believing in them

samnater

Nah man. Bots are cheap. MSM can afford to pay for them.

StarGaurdianBard

You'd have to be a true conspiracy theorist to think random regards on WSB are part of MSM

Freschledditor

Stfu about MSM already, you're just a moron, there's no epic secret conspiracy and you aren't special

samnater

The MSM loves Biden tho.

samnater

MSM

banana_buddy

Chill out regard, I'm giving a tldr cause this is WSB. If you want empirical evidence just look at the study which examined Cramer's stock picks over twenty years and found 60%+ success rate of inversing. I'm not saying the MSM is 100% wrong all the time, I'm saying there are incentives for them to push a stock price up or down. Sometimes the incentive is to help hedge funds sell, sometimes the incentive is to raise awareness for an innovative product/company, sometimes the incentive is to just bring up a provocative company to garner views. Their primary objective however IS NOT to help you make money I'm telling OP that if he wants to consistently make money (get better than a 60-40 success rate) then he needs to research his own companies or if he wants to trade a company that's hot in the MSM he should do his due diligence on the company and come to his own conclusions.

BBBY_IS_DEAD_LOL

The post you're replying to is fever dream nonsense. Anyone who unironically uses the term MSM is a dolt. The above poster is a real adult, though. You can trust what they say.

Salty-Swimming-3016

Whenever I see really strong hype about a prediction of some influencer in YouTube, 99% of the time the opposite happens. So I start betting against the MSM.

1ess_than_zer0

Or based off what you’re saying just inverse MSM 🥴

banana_buddy

OP this is the real answer in case this is a serious post. The media outlets serve the hedgies, if the MSM tells you it's time to buy a stock it's because the hedgies want to sell. If you want to consistently get winning trades you need to do your own research independent of the MSM.

HomerSamson007

As much as I’d like to think that the Mag7 is a Ponzi scheme, the MSM trying to pump the hell out of them still. They even were talking about some Amazon rando’s prediction of Indian exports to India in 2025 lol. Not shorting them yet, especially as they accounted for almost all of S&P gains, held up by large hedge funds. I don’t think a lot of retail is going long NVDA at this price

lame_mirror

he's been subconsciously indoctrinated by western MSM propaganda, like the rest of you lemmings.

lame_mirror

this is ridiculous. western MSM shits on china nearly daily with its highly negatively biased anti-china propaganda and yet you can't say it to xi's face? show your cards (biden just did), you fake yanks. also, as others have observed, the real "joke" or punchline is when biden said china's government is completely different to his. yankville ain't a democracy.

mdcortright

Yeah I figured that I should do that. I wrote the comment in a snarky way not because I don’t like you/believe what you are saying. It’s purely because of a deep frustration with the data being altered and changed in front of our eyes. Obviously it happens daily with regular MSM. But to see it done with financial data, and by the Federal Reserve is disturbing to me.

MonkeyMcBandwagon

Gonna get downvoted here, because this is the wrong subreddit to ask about CC and trading advice. This sub is about keeping the money you have, not making money. 2 years is fine in crypto, probably more than enough. The next boom is coming within that timeframe, just make sure you take profits near the top, before the next bust, then wait a year or 2 and reinvest after the drop. Google the "halving cycle" to see where the BTC market is at the moment. What you need to understand though is that a lot of people are expecting this cycle to continue and in 2024 / 25 Wall St. is able to freely manipulate the price of CCs via short-selling and other mechanisms. I'm expecting next BTC peak to be around $115k USD, which is lower than most who follow the history of the cycle would tell you - it's low enough for Wall St to exploit a lot of people who invest based on MSM advice. Also I expect the next peak to happen 6-9 months early, for the same reason. Again, this really is not the subreddit for trading strategies but understand CC is notoriously high volatility, so if you want to actively trade it, you should choose a trading strategy that takes advantage of that volatility, one such stategy is simple to follow, and often referred to on reddit as "50% cash gang".

Krtxoe

why even read MSM? it's all bull shit

quantumpadawan

If you have a worker making $20 per hour who is skilled. The boss might look at that worker and decide he can hire two immigrants who are 60% as effective, but when combined are 120% as effective. Furthermore, because they're immigrants, the boss might pay them $10 per hour. This is a no Brainerd from the boss perspective. He has more productivity for the same price. Two jobs created and one lost. It's a net gain. Introduce the min wage law that raises min wage to $12. Now the boss has to pay 20% more to achieve the 20% added productivity. And no boss ever makes that decision because of the added difficulty if firing and training new personnel. Min wage laws actively price out low wage labor by destroying jobs. This is basic economics. If you need a source for this, go back to your economics textbooks, or if you don't have any, just exit the conversation. You keep asking for sources, but what I am telling you is not something to find in a 2 minute read on the NYT. This is basic economic theory. Go dig up your old textbooks or go to a library. If you don't want to read about these things in a nuanced fashion and only prefer easy to read MSM content, you don't belong here.

MonkeyMcBandwagon

Calling it now, next one is less impressive, around $115,000 USD, and it will happen too early in the halving cycle, in order to maximise the amount of FOMO cash that can be sucked from retail who will be told by MSM that it will be higher, later in the cycle.

collegefootballfan69

Because NFP was not soft! 150k plus striking auto plus striking actors is well over 200k. Don’t believe the narrative that MSM want you to believe do your own DD and then stick to your beliefs.

Level_-_Up

MSM has been trying to will a recession for the last two years.

Teembeau

My own take on this:- * If you know the company/market/environment and can see value, buy stocks * If you can't, buy ETFs. In terms of knowing a stock, I mean, really doing your homework. Not just reading some "analyst opinion", but like, if you're looking into an airline, things like what sort of people fly with them. Where do they fly and why. What is their seat utilisation? How much have they hedged fuel costs? In terms of a recession, what would that mean to the airline? Will people take less breaks, or just cheaper ones. Then trying to project forward. Or look at all the Israel-based companies whose price crashed. Do you understand where they are? Where Gaza is? What the Gaza situation is \*really\* about? The average journalist will talk about oil prices rising or WW3 and they just do not have the first idea what is going on. The only reason to watch the MSM in terms of investing is to find opportunities to bet against.

JamesBondMI6007

Why is no one talking about Citizens Bank going under two days ago and being swallowed up by the FDIC? Because the media isn’t reporting on either. If it’s not in the MSM it’s not on your average persons radar.

Most_Bug_7325

Did you hear that from MSM? Lol

LowEffortMeme69420

I love these people who are arguing with you while clearly, not knowing anybody that works in high finance. Institutional investors have masters degrees at a minimum and are literal human calculators who get off on this shit. But no, the whole market is fueled on MSM fueled cocaine riddled expectations. Lmao

Prestigious_Chard_90

The reading level of the sub is equal to their ytd, -99%. I appreciated the write up, since I live on the other side of the world, and it is hard to stay up and watch, but at the same time I don't trust MSM to write anything so coherent and unbiased.

MatteoHamptons

No. Did u know that BTC has had several forks (BSV) that open soirce programmers create because they think its better BTC? Did u know Saylor reported a 163m LOSS exclusively for his BTC holdings? Did u know it's being pumped by whales to retail by whales who need an exit? I used to be bullish on everything, too. When BTC drops 10% soon MSM will say "it was due for a pull back, correction, profit taking, investors rook some off the table, whatever to justify the sharp drop into the pool of minnows. Don't be a minnow.

4score-7

Because there won't be one. Just like the last time. And the time before that. And the 3 times before that....They are using political theater for our entertainment, and to distract the MSM from another trip and fall by the PUSA.

SirGlass

>And it can’t be mentioned! And that’s why I keep buying… Always inverse MSM propaganda! Yep you showed them by being a bag holder and probably down 50% on your meme stock. But you really showed them!

Tomato13

BoJ / MoF | JGB and Yen, is what I watch on a daily basis. Its unanchoring is probably the biggest financial news right now and no MSM press has written about it.

j_stars

Every time I see her talking about 'deep value' after her fund has collapsed, I'm shaking my head. The MSM still cooing about her.

rc2288

Always inverse MSM propaganda!! Jamie is selling first time in 20 years 😂 Whoever buys deserves to lose money 😂😂

j_stars

the Fed Board of Governors posted a presentation (quietly) in Feb '23 that they had received in Sep 2022 saying that 700 banks had lost more than 50% of their banking capital and SVB had lost 110% of its capital (in Sep 2022). I saw an estimate in May '23 that there were at that time 2,000 bank that had lost more than 50% of their banking capital. There is a crisis in the banks but the MSM is not talking about it. Though Dimon is voting with his feet and pulling $141M out of JPM stock.

DorkyDorkington

This is 💯 what each and every financial MSM outlets does. For them you are either exit liquidity (buy) or source of cheap shares at bottom (sell). Every single time they give any direct instruction to forget, sell, give up, etc. means they want or need what you got. They have below zero reasons to ever help you or give you a solid advice. You are not their customer, you are the product. The customer is the same whom it is in the case of brokers (PFOF). The designated Market Manipulators MMs whom have the bona fide exemption to commit fraud and deception. Especially the ones that combine MM position with hedge fund operations. There it is out in the open an obvious, simple, clear as day organized systemic criminal enterprise running its milking operations day in day out. When one combines these three: 1. Financial media outlet 2. Market Making / dark pools 3. Hedge fund You have an endless money milking machine that extracts the wealth of the masses taking part in US stock markets. When they have the endorsement, acceptance and protection of some governmental entities it makes them strong... but not invincible. That machine can be broken. Even if they enjoy some exemptions to the laws they don't have total freedom or control over the system. Their are still bound by the limits and most laws of the system. So when ever they give any advice, just treat it absolutely the same way you would if it came from The Cokerat. Inverse Cramer is inverse MSM. The thing is, when the public stops acting according to their emotional rollercoaster scam - they r fukt. The machine will be broken. It will take time though as we have learned. It will take patience, it takes balls, diamond hands and courage, determination, stubbornness and zen.

degeneratesupremacy2

Government continuing to spend like fucking crazy is what drives inflation. Powell even said, "its not my place to comment on policy but I will say the US is on an unsustainable fiscal path"...which everyone and their mother can see. The second front of ww3 opening up in Israel is going to require a LOT more spending yet again. Which will in turn require the fed to continue raising interest rates, they aren't stupid. Our MSM might pretend that government spending isn't a big deal and war is both financially healthy and morally correct, but the money men know the numbers. Also, isn't it interesting that in his time in office, Biden sells half the fucking strategic petroleum reserve right before we go balls deep into ANOTHER war in the middle east? Really makes you think.

Lexsteel11

Yeah they didn’t understand that the old wsb was performance art. It was an under-the-radar treasure trove of fantastic due diligence reports being delivered by community members who would adopt the “group personality” of a boiler room/wolf of wall street dialect which made difficult concepts easy to digest and communicate. I truly miss that era since finance MSM (cnbc, Bloomberg, etc.) are just there to drum up retail liquidity for hedge funds

crazyyimmy

40 targets ranging 50meters to 300meters from three firing positions. When MSM throws out catchy headlines with “military” in front of it, unless it’s actual special operations, it’s really not that awesome.

tomfulleree

You may be right on thinking the powers that be would being able to put a wrench in a massive short squeeze, during regular, normal market conditions. But if you haven't noticed lately, in the least we're headed for a major market crash. Black swan event is coming and when shit hits the fan, everyone is going to try to cover their own asses. They're not going to be able use their current market manipulation mechanisms to hold back the accumulated debt avalanche they've created. The shorts spent 3 years negatively dragging GS through MSM and have continued shorting the stock because it poses a systemic risk. That's the jist of it.

Big-Ad9928

**Parking lot..** their own hospital parking lot.. MSM said hospital for a while. foggy

StumpGrnder

Look up Jim Cramer explaining how the system works to cellar box a companies stock and the part he (MSM Financial news) plays.

Lionel_Hutz_Lawfirm

So..... The music is the MSM and news sites telling everyone what to do. The people jumping around are retail traders. Some are on beat and others are going against the grain. And the MMs and Algos are what.... The giant crab god controlling the entire situation but giving no indication what it's thinking or doing?

JustSayingMuch

fundamentals: ATGE EXEL V MSM gamble of the day: NNDM

Deadeye313

Now is actually a decent time to think about investing in dividend value stocks. SCHD has taken a beating this year and the yield is climbing higher. With pressure to compete against treasuries, that could mean higher dividend payouts or their stock prices will fall more. Eventually the economy will turn again and stocks will rise as bond prices fall and the real winners will be those who bought stocks while everyone else bought bonds and now have to buy stocks at higher prices with their bond money. I listen to bloomberg and yeah, they're MSM, but they've had advisor and asset managers keep saying that one of the places they're looking to for opportunities is value stocks. So keep your emergency fund and savings money in bonds to keep pace with inflation, but do keep buying cheap stocks with your extra money and keep pumping that 401k.

HelpsHolme

Any truth about EV's get's slammed because shill bot's Only know the MSM lie's...

flyingpig_123

One word: TikTok. Kills all conventional MSM.

SPAC_Time

Yeah, the MSM doesn't follow DWAC very closely; then they see some news from another outlet and try to get some clicks without doing much background work. Actually sent the Reuters author an email about the incorrect article, may be coincidence but some of the info sent to her ended up in the updated article. Also sent an email to Forbes about [errors in their article about DWAC](https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2023/06/28/trump-is-reportedly-mulling-a-return-to-twitter-after-truth-social-exclusivity-deal-expires/?sh=7ce8264f70a6), they never bothered to answer or correct the mistakes. Forbes said "an exclusivity deal that kept him tethered to his Truth Social platform ended earlier this month", but that is incorrect; as explained ( and linked ) in the email, that exclusivity term ***automatically*** renews every 180 days. Unless Trump terminates his ***licensing*** agreement with TMTG the exclusivity term is still in force. Also sent CNN an email [about the error in this article](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/business/trump-truth-social-merger-dwac/index.html), again they just decided to go ahead and leave a plainly erroneous report uncorrected. [Posted this about the failure](https://www.reddit.com/r/DWAC_Uncensored/comments/16z80fn/inaccurate_reports_from_mainstream_media_outlets/) of many MSM outlets to understand that DWAC did **not** add any "***new***" termination language, they just *extended* the existing dates. It's not a good look when folks can get more accurate information from some schlub on reddit than is provided by "professional" journalists.

degeneratesupremacy2

The jobs participation rate being so low while the numbers keep going up tells a story that they don't want told. More and more people are saying fuck it and just living off government benefits, while those who continue to work are getting fucked so badly by inflation they are getting second and third jobs. Its an open secret at this point the economy is a house of cards. The government deficit is 2 trillion for 2023 because the ones in control understand there will be hell to pay and riots in the street if we have another depression. They are spending their asses off with the expectation it will trickle into the economic numbers so they don't look so bad. They rely on the MSM to gaslight us into thinking everything is roses and we're the only ones struggling so its our own fault, not theirs. Occupy Wallstreet was pretty cute, but so many people are already FED (pun intented) up with their shit and understand the game, the next one will be more akin to a domestic uprising than protests. It will be bipartisan and of all socioeconomic classes because everyone will be fucked with nothing to lose. With all that being said, the only rational conclusion is to position yourself bullishly, because those mother fuckers will keep kicking the can down the road as long as possible for fear of those consequences. As long as the majority of people have a place to live, internet entertainment, and enough food to not starve... the can has successfully been kicked and its business as usual.

4score-7

It wouldn't have been a shock at all. And not a single person in MSM would have mentioned it. Certainly not CNBC, eternal pumpers of markets.

TomatoSpecialist6879

To be fair most news outlet be it MSM or internet news media all source their stuff from either AP, Reuters or social media.

4thekung

It's barely even a war. The MSM is really making it out as if it's on-par with Ukraine, it's not and has been going on for 80+ years.

Old-Culture-4511

Makes sense. I’m curious how the paragliders aided in the invasion of a few thousand fighters. Seems in the States, MSM has us in the dark on information.

GME_retard-rocket

How is that different from the disinformation disseminated by MSM?

Obvious-Oil1657

You just got duped by MSM, this is just a blip for the smart money to go in.

555-Rally

Wages didn't grow just cuz inflation happened. They actually declined when adjusted for inflation. So the wealth is removed from the middle/lower classes. It's not a budgeting problem, the economy will fail because the consumer is priced out from inflation printed at the top. Stimmies were not even 20% of the print...most was Prime lending and MBS ETF prints. PPP loans didn't go to employees, they went to shady businesses which were upper middle class primarily. The narrative coming out of MSM will be the same as it was in 2008 - blame the poors for not handling their money well. Meanwhile up at the top they're running risk assessments with crayons and no reserve still on the banks.

winston1984smith

Brought to you by the MSM that somehow managed to record every single covid death in real time with the death ticker… until the day after “the election.”

Wyvernrider

MSM scared to shit of X being successful. They losing control.

H3rbert_K0rnfeld

$9b in student loans were dissolved. MSM been reporting so all day

555-Rally

Before they tell you different in the MSM. Yesterday's pop in the bond market, brought to you by the BoJ ...happened before the GOP drama.

Psylent0

Its called stagflation. MSM is avoiding using this word and getting technical with definition. The economy is stagnating and inflation continues to run amuck.

IAmInTheBasement

The secret was being able to look past the BS put up by TSLAQ and how much airtime the MSM gave them. Every new EV was a 'Tesla Killer' and no one challenged that narrative. Chanos, Einhorn, and Spiegel, and Gordon Johnson come to mind. The Taycan and iPace meant no more Model S sales. The Bolt meant that the Model 3 was done for.

wealth4good

Wait til October trading begins. You're likely to witness some real carnage when the MSM can't keep the lid on the ongoing recession. Employment levels are only high cause many people have 2-3 jobs just to afford food & gas that's been skyrocketing to the moon since Jan 2021.

majorflojo

Dude on Linkedin talked about the loopholes RC took advantage of. IIRC it's something like this, having to do with snail mail and the time lag between postmarking your sale and the SEC disclosing it. ​ * Cohen sold his BBBY stake w/o publicly announcing it. * He filled out the required SEC disclosure form that same day and sent it by snail mail to the SEC. **THIS IS ALL HE LEGALLY HAD TO DO** ^((I think).) * Price was high when he sold. APEs were still buying Towels. * Retail markets didn't know he sold. Pros knew something was up. Aftermarket too. * Towel price tanks. No public announcement from RC about sale (it's in the mail - literally). * SEC gets the form. Publishes it as per laws(?) * Word gets out in MSM that RC sold via SEC website. * Too late for RC-Loving Apes tho. Price had been down for at least 1 day if not 2 after their buying frenzy pre RC sale. * RC made profit \~$50M * Apes got BBBY-ed. * Apes still love RC tho.🤷🏼‍♂️

ThisIsMyGreenAccount

This is what people don't know or care to learn sadly. He was trying to help them, they said nah we good, so RC peaced out. BBBY didn't want his help so he obliged and fucked off, then MSM and shills used that as another attempt to discredit RC and GME. These fools think their smart calling Kramer a shill (he is) and are blind as fuck to all the others.

Complex37

The MSM’s “Cohen dumped on retail” narrative that ignores that fact that the board refused to work with him, so he sold