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Which stocks tend to crash hard during recessions but fully recover when it ends?
Which stocks tend to crash hard during recessions but fully recover when it ends?
Cruise debts/stocks vs airlines debts/stock
NCLH unusual option activity, implied vol, and divergence
NCLH unusual option activity, implied vol, and divergence
Are the Cruise Lines back? NCLH RCL CCL
2023-04-19 Wrinkle Brain Plays - In the style of a Sheep
RCL just came out with bookings higher than 2019.. why do people feel like the debt is stopping this stock from fully recovering?
Good to Know Information - Option Buyers in Major Tickers
Good to Know Information - Option Buyers in Major Tickers
Royal Caribbean RCL is an excellent investment opportunity at current stock price.
5 Valuation Models for Last Week's Earnings Releases
Great opportunity: Royal Caribbean balls deep this week.
Royal Caribbean will gain at least 20% by the end of Friday.
Royal Caribbean will gain at least 50% value in November
"...but if that were to happen, you'd have other things to worry about than your investments, anyway."
Thoughts on entering back into cruise line stocks? They're beat up but things are going to normal. Specifically, CCL versus the others.
RCL is an excellent investment at current stock price
TraceSafe Inc. (CSE: TSF) Small-cap bet for shipping industry going green
RCL will report a profit in October's quarterly report
Ian has created a good opportunity to get RCL stocks
$RCL CEO straight lied on the conference call
Shares of cruise lines jump after CDC ends Covid-19 program $CCL $NCLH $RCL
Shares of cruise lines jump after CDC ends Covid-19 program $CCL $NCLH $RCL
Why are we not buying up cruise line stocks for 2023?
Is the cruise industry coming back? After more than 2 years under a COVID cloud, the answer is yes. $CCL $NCLH $RCL
Shares of cruise lines jump after CDC ends Covid-19 program $CCL $NCLH $RCL
Shares of cruise lines jump after CDC ends Covid-19 program $CCL $NCLH $RCL
Shares of cruise lines jump after CDC ends Covid-19 program $CCL $NCLH $RCL
Shares of cruise lines jump after CDC ends Covid-19 program $CCL $RCL $NCLH
$CCL $NCLH $RCL FTD’s with CDC’s COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships is no longer in effect. Expect massive rebound in this sector
CLIA Reacts After CDC Ends COVID Cruise Ship Program $CCL $RCL $NCLH
CLIA Reacts After CDC Ends COVID Cruise Ship Program $CCL $RCL $NCLH
Cruise Stocks CCL, RCL, NCLH Gain as CDC Ends Covid Program
Cruise Stocks CCL, RCL, NCLH Gain as CDC Ends Covid Program
$CCL Very high search trend this year compared to last year on google trends globally ! High Demand for cruises especially since CDC Yesterday dropped mandates and testing requirements! $RCL $NCLH
CDC ends its COVID program for cruise ships saying they can 'manage their own COVID-19 mitigation' $CCL $RCL $NCLH
CDC ends its COVID program for cruise ships saying they can 'manage their own COVID-19 mitigation' $CCL $RCL $NCLH
CDC ends its COVID program for cruise ships saying they can 'manage their own COVID-19 mitigation' $CCL $RCL $NCLH
CDC stops reporting coronavirus cases on cruise ships $CCL $RCL $NCLH
CDC stops reporting coronavirus cases on cruise ships $CCL $RCL $NCLH
$INTK Industrial Nanotech Guidance Event and Conference Call Summary
Royal Caribbean Gr (NYSE:RCL) Analyst Ratings by JP Morgan chimes in saying it’s only worth $60/share! Is this going to drop?
Thoughts on RCL going into earnings?
Bare rooms, rotten fruit and boredom: Quarantine life on infected cruises. SHORT $RCL.
Time to short travel and leisure industry?
Can anyone explains these call options? Bullish on reopening stocks?
AAL, DAL, LUV, UAL, CCL, RCL similar patterns - 30 min time frame
$RCL spreading Corona Omicron port to port — Royal Caribbean’s Latest Super-Spreader at Sea Cruise
$RCL Royal Caribbean is a sinking ship — U.S. CDC says people should 'avoid cruise travel, regardless of vaccination status'
Sinking Ship - $RCL Royal Caribbean spreading Covid around the world
Thoughts on Royal Caribbean Cruises (RCL)? Aside from cruise ships being a breeding ground for the virus, the panic sell off should likely recover next week. With no restrictions to the Caribbean, do you think this is a safe buy? Why or why not?
Are the cruiselines about to gap up? #NCLH #CCL #RCL
Current Stock Plays - So far so good!
Royal Caribbean Group (RCL) News, Resumes U.S. cruising
Cruise lines opening this weekend I went hard on cruise lines let see I was senior officer for 10 years RCL and CCL, already 4K up
Sail On Sailor ? Desantis Win vs CDC. Carnival Royal Caribbean Norwegian …
Sail on Sailor? Desantis and Cruise Industry get big win vs CDC
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ha i used to work at CCL and bought a boat load of shares during Covid. my 1600 CCL shares are up 61% and 113 RCL shares are up a staggering 382%
RCL and LUV with the crazy gains today. Yup, people still got plenty of money. Calls all the way.
RCL up 20% and nobody talks about it lol
#RCL up 14% on the news that Americans trying to book cruises just to get away from America for a while LMAO🤌
I just buy baby buy on RCL. They are top cruise line and are on pace to not only outclass the other lines they will be top in market share and revenue before 2035. I suspect we will be there in 2030 or shortly after. Every red day I buy more RCL. My portfolio is up to 83% RCL and is probably higher now with this jump in price.
TUI is going to come out of nowhere and be a force. Just wait and see. RCL owns part of them now, but they will become a global player in a few years.
Someone forgot to tell RCL that.
If someone in here keeps buying RCL and causing it to tank, can you stop please. 💫
Buying NKE, Buying DECK, Buying RCL. That is all.
RCL has had a up and down few weeks but if you bought right after Covid you in the $$$ now
The big thing for me is looking at dips that dont make sense. My two dip plays have been UPS and RCL. Bought UPS at $89 because I figured it had gone down due to slowdown after the covid bump but would be ultimately fine in the long run (and a good dividend). Bought RCL after it went down 5% 3 days in a row when Trump was on a “flags of convenience” tirade that I figured would never happen. Bought ~$250 and sold ~$340.
Right, there's a reason Carnival is considered the Walmart of cruise lines. The wealthy will lean towards RCL or VIK.
"Dad, why don't we have presents like the other kids?" Well ya see son... Daddy got caught on the wrong side of the $ORCL/$RCL trade.
I have klar as well Thoughts on RCL as it continues to freefall?
Watch me catch the falling knife of RCL
I only have 1 stock in my portfolio. RCL
I bought 7,142 of RCL during Covid at $14 a share, sold it after I made $20,000. Should have waited 3 more years. Still pisses me off today
guys its time to buy in signs of a bottom are almost there, the small caps and value stocks are not going down even though index are red. bitcoin is plunging further and indexes did not move in tandem anymore. when the index goes down but quality stocks are not done it signals a bottom already. look at RCL, UPS, UAL, bank stocks, money is going to rotate out of tech into these stocks. frothy stocks will remain in consolidation
This chad’s gonna be laughing all the way to the bank. These are winners except maybe UUUU and RCL but even those got a pulse. Uhhh nvm I mean he’s totally cooked 🤡 see you at Wendy’s diamond hands 🚀👐
I hope ! UUUU and RCL are hopeless though
NCLH followed CCL and RCL and puts were pretty cheap!
No reason for it not to be honestly. Problem is NCLH (and CCL but I don't trade them out of spite of that company) are drug whichever way RCL is going. My long term target for RCL is around 460. I loaded with RCL when they tanked in 2020 at 19.90 a share.
They're literally the only companies that operate with net cash on hand vs the traditional in debt we trust. RCL does anyways. They were shut down for almost an entire year and survived. No big brother handout. Against all odds. Everything. If that doesn't prove that they are among the most resilient business, then nothing will prove it to you. I am a hardcore bull on RCL. NCLH and CCL not so much because they love to dilute their shareholders. Fun fact, you're just as likely to catch norovirus from a flight as you are a cruise.
Anyone buying CCL, RCL puts? I just came back from an island near Venezuela and I think some military action is gonna happen soon
If you go to 15 delta's your premiums and percentage returns much lower. With quicker turnover and call aways on CC you then need to reinvest the funds and chances of bad decisions or unlucky outcomes increases Higher short term percentage return does not mean it will be a more profitable overall return using longer roll outs. Nvidia is perhaps a uncommon example but I have also rolled out other stocks like COIN and RCL so it clearly is not that uncommon.
I wasn’t paying much attention to it today, but RCL stock dropped very sharply. I had an investment analyst at my firm send me the stock price late in the day, complete with daily chart, and said “End of SNAP”.
I just sold my RCL stock last week! 🎉 🥳 🎉
Dugyres RCL would kill it then rate cut pump/ china tarrif pump
NCLH has paid me handsomly. Before this recent selloff. Been out of it since. If it touches around about 20, it would be a decent buying opportunity. Assuming that support region doesn't tank. And remember, whatever RCL does, CCL and NCLH tend to follow.
Back in the day RCL was at $35. Now it's at $300, a 10 bagger. Who would have thought cruise was going to be lucrative? Everybody thought the sector was dead after COVID.
BLX is a big one due to growth. So is RCL. I got it at $37 during COVID.
Had 100 shares of RCL at 30 right when covid dipped the market figuring things would go back to normal. Sold at 35 and now look at the price today.
Panic sold NVDA when it dropped in 2022. If I held onto the $20k I had when I sold it I would have been up $300k by now. In 2020 I originally bought RCL then I sold it and switched to CCL big mistake.
LEAPS and shares. 10% discount still. brought to you by 1,000% RCL gains
Thank you for your insights on this. From a consumer standpoint both companies offer similar but different experiences even though they operate similar ports and excursions. They definitely feel different when on board. Reviewing the numbers: By all indications (other than top line) RCL appears to be a better run company - if you see something different I am all ears. Top line revenue is a growth metric but it looks at a point in time, given that CCL is larger than RCL it’s not a surprise they have a higher revenue reported. In my thesis I look at change in revenue over the past 5 years RCL crushes CCL. 50% growth in revenue ($10.95B in 2019 vs $16.48B in 2024). CCL has around 20% growth, still respectable ($20B in 2019 vs $25.02B in 2024). In 2019 total cruise revenue was $53.3B over industry. This means at the time, CCL owned about 40% of the market. With RCL, they owned a combined 60% of the market. Fast forward to 2024 and the combined revenues of CCL and RCL are 41.5B vs $55.66B (total cruise revenue was virtually stagnate over the 5 years due to COVID travel), yet CCL was only able to grow revenues from $20B to $25B and control 44.9% of market - whereas RCL has increased revenues to $16.48B and improved their market share to 29.6% of market. Still less than CCL but based on their growth and projected growth they will eclipse CCL as top Cruise line in near future, and likely be able to do it with less passengers which creates higher demand and pricing ability and better overall efficiency. Further, as I noted CF, FCF, levered FCF, etc are all better for RCL - which adds to their attractiveness as an investment, despite the debt loads of both companies. Now, the risk is definitely in play because CCL could acquire an additional cruise line and bolster their financials. Especially with their focus on debt repayment. Also as I note above RCL is still a smaller line than CCL (about 70%) of the size. If current metrics are maintained for both companies my guess is RCL will be top cruise line on all valuation metrics sometime in early 2030s. CCLs moat is being chipped away at by RCL and smaller cruise lines. Their stock price, even with the higher valuation on a P/E basis is poised to continue to go higher. I do think both companies will see decent returns, you won’t go wrong with CCL, but overall I think opportunity is higher with RCL. Even during COVID this was true, and coming out of COVID CCL is still lagging RCL at the stock market level.
It really depends what you want in a cruise. CCL offers the majority of their cruises off US ports based on what I can find available. CCL offers shorter cruises that target a younger audience. CCL cruises tend to be a cheaper option. CCL ships are smaller. CCL ships are older. I did not intend to show bias. CCL is a great option. I still think CCL from a brand standpoint is more in line with Pepsi. CCL is a widely-known brand, widely-accessible for everyone-type product. RCL is like coke, it’s a more polished, luxurious type product. Nothing wrong with either brand. With that said, RCL and CCL are in the same class, I just feel RCL is a peg or two ahead right now due to their current positioning. Even on valuation basis the higher premium is evident of that in the RCL stock. It doesn’t CCL can’t change that because they probably can, and will likely do so. But at this time it’s RCL for me. Despite higher revenues, net income was higher for RCL as well as FCF. Which indicates thinner margins for CCL.
This is out of touch, RCL has the largest ships in the World. They are poised to grow their market share plus they have newest ships. They also have pending orders through 2036 plus new exclusive RCL locations. Across the globe, including in Mexico, Nassau, and off the Australian Coast. Paradise Island is coming soon as well as Perfect Day Mexico which will offer some exclusive features.
While certain demographics will be deeply impacted by a recession - a recession in turn will make cruising more affordable. RCL is positioned to get through a recession, even if they stop production of new ships for a few years to match demand because they already have the newest ships in the world. In 2-3 years if cruise lines opt to maintain their fleet vs refurbish or build new RCL will still be on top because they have the newest, most up to date fleet. So while demand may quell in the industry, I think impact to RCL will be minimal. Look at how they bounced back from COVID.
157 days later. I will kindly disagree with you. RCL targets the family fun entertainment with late night options. CCL targets a younger crowd with a more party atmosphere. With that said, because of their demographic targets, CCL tends to offer shorter cruise options and for now smaller ships to cater to this younger crowd and also target mostly US based destinations. RCL is building a global based business with many cruises throughout the world. They have a mix of shorter and medium term cruises to cater to a wider audience. Their state rooms and ship sizes offer a massive range of clientele. Also note that RCL is also offering in the next several years exclusive destination/Resorts such as private resorts and new stops only accessible by RCL and brand family cruises. It will be years before CCL or NCL catch up. With that said, CCL does handle the higher volume of people, but in my opinion RCL offers better quality. MSC and NCL are also upping their game but tend to have smaller ships and more diverse port access. In comparing to other industries I’d liken RCL to Apple whereas CCL is Samsung. RCL is like Coke and CCL is Pepsi. RCL is DAL and CCL is like AAL. While each line has its loyal cruisers I think far and away RCL is better than CCL. This is evidenced today in their respective stock prices, so investors have the same sentiment. New large ships from RCL through at least 2036 plus new private destinations for RCL are the difference for me.
Sold RCL at $49 Sold SPRB at $5
Great q. Covid was the obvious threat to these companies. RCL is far beyond recovery, is CCL that far behind? Methinks not
CCL is the largest holding in my portfolio. RCL was the real winner, +400% for me, ~1000% bottom to top, but CCL is next in my books. NCLH has not pulled out of the COVID debt pile like these companies have. Bonus tip - you get onboard credits for owning a certain amount of shares. Stroking it to CCL tonight.
I look at the metrics. PE ratio (too high indicates it could be overbought), dividend yield, debt to asset ratio. Also use qualitative analysis. I jumped on RCL, HOG, and WWE during the pandemic because they have hardcore fan bases.
Why are we not playing RCL earnings on the dip?
*speaks up proudly* I made 4,000 selling and re-buying, RCL.
I did not understand why is losing 5% today, I checked the operating margin, sales, passenger cruise day and compare to RCL and I still don’t understand
The time to buy was during the pandemic Bought RCL, up >300%. Anyone who bought at 2022 lows is up ~10x
Die hard community helps. I jumped on RCL during the pandemic because people who go on cruises are diehard fans and I knew there would be pent up demand. RCL also had a healthy enough balance sheet to survive the lockdown.
Incredible returns, especially starting during pandemic chaos. Holding RCL through that period took serious diamond hands. 30% annual growth is legit - most fund managers would kill for those numbers. WSB can actually be a solid learning platform if you filter out the noise.
If interested, can post my $RCL entry and other stocks that are more than 100% , with entry. Thank you WSB.
So we just don’t talk about RCL at 365?
Cruises went with AI. See RCL stock, the new AI cruise liner.
lol. RCL graph looks like they put AI on cruise ships
Oh yeah I paid it off quite well. I bought RCL calls $24 -> 325.
I wanted RCL calls but the spread is so bad on that stock lmao
Anyone planning puts on RCL? Surprised there isn’t more chatter about the major slide malfunction resulting in an injury on their flagship boat last week. Looks like mainstream is just starting to pick it up.
Anyone planning on puts for RCL? Surprised there isn’t more chatter about the major slide malfunction resulting in an injury on their flagship boat last week. Looks like mainstream is just starting to pick it up.
I bought 155 shares of RCL at $32/share at the beginning of Covid. Decided to sell CC when it hit a little over $100/share. It was assigned at $128. It’s now worth $315 and hit a high of $355. Definitely missed out, but happy for what I made.
I had 100k in stock with RCL during covid, I bought it when it was $9 a share, sold when it hit $21. Just to lose my money during the Gamestop roller coaster. Today RCL is $300 a share
RCL during Covid bought around 4,0000 shares at 25 then sold at 50. They’re 300 a share now would’ve been a millionaire if I had held…
I started with cruise lines in dec last year. Started with RCL after I thought I noticed a seasonal pattern of rising first 6 months of year then dip in Aug/Sep then rising again towards end of year. Bought Norwegian, Carnival, Viking around April after "Liberation Day" dip. I've watched them grow, then just sold them after Royal said they had a good Q2 but said Q3 was cautious. Noticed folks were bailing on cruise lines across the board, so I sold the cruise lines I had left. Was planning to sell them all after earnings, but I went from 50% to 35% roi on Royal overnight, so decided to bail. But, I'm keeping an eye on them to buy them back up in September or November... if my theory about their seasonal up's and down's holds true. I noticed the December trend in general just by running some stock analysis spreadsheets. Airlines seemed to go up as the holidays show up, b/c folks traveling for Thanksgiving & Christmas. I got in on airlines early this year, and it's been awful watching them drop and bounce. I sold them. Might buy them later this year.. maybe late September after Q3 earnings to see how that goes. Notice how I'm experimenting a bit. The thing that throws a wrench in all this is the economy. If economy is tanking, folks will be doing less cruises and plane travel. So, those two industrys could be in an slump rest of this year. But, I shifted over to online gambling stocks (Draft Kings, Sports Trader, Flutter). Someone mentioend Draft Kings in a reddit post. I run a momentum stock tracker, and noticed it came up there. Then I looked at online gambling as an industry in general, and it's been on the rise past months. Shifted the cruise money to there to double positions I already had. My theory is as the economy tanks, folks will buy more auto parts instead of cars (to fix up their clunkers), and do more online gambling as an escape an occasional "hit it big" moment to get a windfall to pay for stuff. Folks would love to have big once in a lifetime lotto money scores, but day-to-day, they like the small "you paid $1 for a scratch off and got $5". Folks doing online gambling like a $50 win here and there w/o realizing they're probably paying $500 to get it over time. I just sold Oreilley autoparts after earnings came in for a slight roi. It's been dawdling around this year. But, I'm keeping it on my watch list to buy back in if I see it start to move.. it and Autozone. So, oreilley and autozone car parts and online gambling are my "economy is starting to go south" plays. Airlines and cruises are my seasonal plays so far.
So many. But then again maybe the turn over in the little chunks here and there would be equal to holding and waiting. After the Covid crash I bot a bunch in cruise lines and airlines. I had RCL in the 40s and sold in the 70s. Rebought in 60s and sold at 100. It’s over 300 now.
5 years ago for sure...Generational buying opportunity ..a few more names in 2022 and 2023 Ie. RCL CVNA META PLTR NVDA and shorter runs like SMCI, W, COST, NFLX plenty of opportunity to take a 500k portfolio to 20 million or more.
RCL tanked on good earnings, time for NCLH to do the same Atleast thats what my puts are hoping for
Every real company that reports gets hammered. RCL SPOT MRK UNH PYPL etc How are we green again lmao
Holy shit. RCL beat EPS so why is it down so much?! Calls at open are free money.
RCL beats top and bottom and with increased guidance… yet stock is tanking
SPOT, UPS, MRK, RCL, all down lol, bulls better pray for PYPL and BA and SOFI to moon
$RCL ROYAL Caribbean cruise goes up every day.
RCL calls have been an absolute money printer recently. We are loyal to Royal and cruise with them all the time, and for free, because we’re degenerates at the casinos onboard lol, and I can 100% see why the stock keeps climbing. Royal has it down to a science.
Just funny af to zoom out on pltr and nvidia and fking RCL to see the complete vertical ascension
Don’t forget RCL- premarket on 7/29
Royal Caribbean- RCL earnings is on Tuesday 7/29
I started my investing foray in 2020 during covid specifically to invest in cruise ship stocks. Bought RCL for 22.78 in 2020 and sole for 71.89 in 2021. Should've sole half and kept half.
I made a good bit on RCL but bailed out in March (and of course it just kept on climbing)
We were lucky ! I only sailed RCL once and I didn’t know about the cruise credit, I’ll be sure to get it next time. I was a loyal Norwegian cruiser, because of the freestyle dining (don’t like the assigned seats and times on Royal) but I bought Royal because that’s where Covid hit first :)
My take is that these ones could outperform the rest: DHI - Home Builders SOFI - Banking NVDA - AI PLTR - AI RCL - Travel HIMS - Telehealth TSLA - Cars
🙋🏻♀️ bought RCL calls at the bottom today
I lost a fuck ton of money buying NIO and SPCE at the top and all the way down. My biggest gains are from QQQ, and buy CCL and RCL during Covid dip
Wdym onboard credit perks? Is there some kind of benefit for owning RCL stock?
Algos keep buying RCL to new highs every day lmao
RCL, CCL, DAL, LUV… all traveling again.. no tariffs
I said this about RCL once it hit $100 after climbing from $38. My stop sell triggered at $58 and I've been mad since.
Thank you! I know stocks can’t be predicted but you don’t think NCHL will grow like RCL?