USB

Ok_Matter_1774

You seem to know what you're talking about, unlike many flippant comments on here, so I hope you take the comment in good faith. Then why do EU countries already have tariffs on the US? Why did tariffs only become bad when the US ramped them up? Zero tariffs are better for you have shown in your comment, I don't think many people would dispute that. However, not a single country already had free trade, so there's clearly a reason why. The world is not one globalist market, and every country has their own self interests. Yes, in the immediate term, free trade is better for your citizens, but countries also need some sort of self-sufficiency, and when you import everything that goes away. Personally, I really only want high tariffs on China. Large amounts of manufacturing will probably never come back to the US, but I will pay higher prices for Mexican made products than Chinese. Immediate high tariffs are going to have pretty bad short-term consequences, but without giving large tax breaks to manufacturing companies, there's really no other way to shift the production. I don't particularly like the way the EU tries to regulate American companies from overseas. The apple USB C case and Google Maps cases are examples of overseas regulation I dislike. It seems like the EU knows they have no competition for certain American products, so they try to show they have some sort of power in that area. I also don't like the unequal tariffs they have on the US. Pre-Trump, there was a 2.5% tax on imported European cars, but the EU had a 10% tax on American cars. That's ridiculous, in my opinion. After working out those two points, I would have no problem working out a fair trade deal with the EU. I don't view the EU as a predatory country like I view China. Personally, I would love if Canada became part of the US, but only if they want to. I visit Canada often and, at least the parts I've visited (not the eastern half), it's very similar to traveling to a new state. Culturally, the US and Canada are more similar than most neighboring EU countries. Even just a more permanent union between the two would be nice. I absolutely do not need to use the military on Canada, nor do I think that will happen. I think most Americans have similar views to me.i don't want any tariffs on Canada as long as it's reciprocated Mexico, on the other hand, needs to figure out their cartel business. The cartels there work like a mafia and are a lot bigger problem than people people across the ocean realize. I'm not going to pretend I have a real solution to it. The US military doesn't have a good track record when it comes to guerilla warfare. Additionally, I think South America needs to be invested in more by the US gov and US companies. I would rather help Latin America get rich than China. So, while I agree with your premise that tariffs are harmful to your own citizens, they do have a use more than just being a bully. I think we both agree that Trump has gone way overboard with the tariffs, but I disagree with many on here that claim there's no reason the US should be imposing tariffs.

cheapdvds

Fun fact, couple years ago, for transactions like this Robinhood would literally generate like 500+ pages tax documents because it would split single transaction into thousands of micro transactions to fill the order. Turbo tax has a limit on how many transaction you can import from robinhood. Once your yearly trade transaction amount is over few million, turbotax would give you an error and won't import it. Fuzzy IRS requirement states if that happens, you must print out all the pages/transactions and send it over since they won't take USB. Some people actually printed over 500+ pages and mail it to the IRS. Thank God within last couple years robinhood has figured out how to consolidate this, so you won't get 500+ pages anymore.

coveredcallnomad100

We gonna be smuggling movies on USB like north Korea in no time.

secrestmr87

Temu was founded in 2022. People been buying USB cables for a long time. You will be ok.

Decent-Photograph391

I don’t buy useless stuff from Temu. I get things I need for my work. Recent examples: Micro USB cables for barcode scanners, metric screws for mounting AIO devices. Same things can be bought from Amazon and Home Depot, except they cost a lot more. And they’re made in the same factories.

Decent-Photograph391

Not everything on Temu is low quality, useless stuff. I buy USB cables thee for $1.50 each for my work. It costs $20 to buy it on CDW. Guess who’s going to absorb the extra cost?

SpittingT

Ok now try to convince me this is not another FTX, you can buy 🌽 and keep it on a USB wallet, other than leverage I can't understand why people love this scammer 

Paiichii

I actually liked Millennium quite a bit and don't understand why people rag on it. I still have a boot USB of Millennium for BIOS updates on certain hardware.

TheMeta40k

Sure thing. USD sucks so how about VND or USB.

BC_32

I have your net worth on a USB 😳

tlBudah

Can I plug in with a 2.0 USB cable?

GhostsinGlass

If the USA is great again then why did someone invent a USB - Tony He's the confucious of our time

Decent-Photograph391

Temu sells a lot of useful stuff as well. Micro USB cables are $20 a piece on CDW, $1.50 from Temu. We need these cables in the hospital. Metric screws are 100 pieces for $5 on Temu. 10x more expensive at Home Depot. Again, these are used on life saving equipment in a US hospital.

RJ5R

yep when tik tok was almost taken away, it almost emotionally crippled entire generations imagine what will happen when amazon says a 3ft anker USB-C cable is $44.99 and it's out of stock

CashFlowOrBust

Like plugging in a USB cable.

noplanman_srslynone

Ya.. USD at EU/USD 1.1338 again, USB saying they are now expecting it to go to 1.22 ? Definitely plays into my mer'ica "gains" ... is the dollar losing value or is gold gaining? WHY NOT BOTH!

The_GASK

Apple and Google have to allow alternative apps marketplaces into their phones with the same privileges as their proprietary. This means for Apple, for example, that if someone wants to upload their apps to "Not-App-Store", they can and Tim Apple will not collect royalties from these downloads, which amounts to 7% of their App Store revenue. The even bigger problem is that, if they want to keep this feature only to European phones (Or anyone claiming to be a European User), they need to fork their IOS and recompile a lot of their kernel every update. The alternative is to stop sales of iPhone to Europe, which accounts for 27% of total revenue for the company, second only to the USA (42%) A third option is akin to USB-C and many other standards: what Europe decides, every other human on the planet gets.

i8noodles

the EU is a slow titan. when they decide things, it takes forever, but extremely far reaching. the USB standard is one such example as well as 5G phone. i dont think they are the best fit to lead but they are probably only the real contender atm

Maleficent-Novel-772

I think you're missing how money actually flows through the system. When you get paid by your employer, that money didn’t just appear. It entered the economy through credit creation—government spending, corporate borrowing, or consumer loans. Your employer’s revenue likely comes from customers whose spending is fueled by that same debt-driven system. Even your employer may borrow to fund operations or payroll. That’s how money flows: someone takes on debt, it enters the economy, circulates through jobs and spending, and ends up buying that USB drive. Once those $4 leave the U.S., they don’t vanish. Foreigners now hold dollars, which they don’t need for domestic use. Some of it goes to trade with other countries—but much of it gets parked in U.S. assets like Treasuries, corporate bonds, and equities. Why? Because they’re running a surplus and need a place to store value—with liquidity, stability, and yield. This isn’t optional—it’s how the balance of payments clears. The U.S. can run persistent trade deficits only because we offer investable assets that the rest of the world wants to hold. It’s not about laziness or handouts. It’s just how a credit-based, globally integrated system works when your currency is the one everyone else saves in.

lOo_ol

*"when the buyer spends $4 on a USB, they’re using money that likely originated from government debt"* By that logic, every dollar in circulation is the product of national debt, and not creation of value, or the product of trade. Microsoft and Americans in general don't sell anything to anyone, every consumer is just a charity case receving wire transfers from the government. It's nonsense. The GDP of the US is nearly $30T, **yearly**. The national debt is about $36T, accumulated from the inception of the country in 1776. I have no idea what kind of influencer you follow who managed to make you believe such an absurd view of economics. The national debt in the US and every Keynesian economy is used to boost demand and manufacture economic growth or else our GDP would slowly shrink. It is not the source of every transaction taking place.

Maleficent-Novel-772

> “At what point does the country take on debt to fund this transaction?” It already did—before the transaction happened. The dollars used to buy that USB drive came from somewhere. In the U.S., money enters the system through debt creation: The federal government borrows by issuing Treasuries The central bank (the Fed) buys those Treasuries or expands credit That money flows into the economy via stimulus, government contracts, and loans So when the buyer spends $4 on a USB, they’re using money that likely originated from government debt or credit expansion.

lOo_ol

*"A country running a trade deficit isn’t just spending—it’s selling off assets or taking on debt"* That's absolutely false. An American importer purchases USB flash drives for $2 each from China, ships them from the port of Shanghai, pays customs in LA, and sells them for $4. American consumers working for Microsoft, which doesn't manufacture anything in the US, purchase those flash drives. At what point does the US government take on debt to fund this transaction? Means of production have left the US for decades. Have we experienced massive unemployment or our labor force shifted towards service industries? And while factories were shutting down in the US, why did our income per capita go from $12K in 1980 to $82K today? The answers are in my previous comment. Tariffs are designed to keep inefficient companies in business because they've managed to lobby governments and convinced people that making them pay for their lack of competitiveness is patriotic.

lOo_ol

If investor B holds so many stocks that his portfolio is indistinguishable from SPY, then he's not a "single stock investor". He spreads the risk the same way an ETF does. Buying individual stocks without "gambling" requires work. You need to follow the company, its earnings, understand its business and its market. If you can't do that, then you should avoid single stocks. Munger once said *"diversification is a protection against ignorance"*, and that's what I wrote in fewer words. Munger's Daily Journal holds only 4 stocks (BABA, BAC, USB, and WFC).

MechanicalCheese

I wonder if the older ones were any better. The ones we had were beige (though new enough to use USB). I seriously never saw a single one in use, but I also never had to swap to any out. I think one class used them every other quarter or something. Considering how much they cost I'd expect a reliable and serviceable keyboard but I guess not.

Alone-Amphibian2434

lol ‘USB’

orebus

Yep, improving infotainment and car software is what all 'traditional' car brands should really work on, because it is not only Tesla's strong point, but also many Chinese car manufacturers. Tesla has own quirks (stupidity of missing auto-wiper sensors for instance), but its software and infotainment, and continuous improvement via frequent software updates is a huge part of car success. I can't imagine going from fast and responsive Tesla screen with huge navigation map to some outdated sluggish UI that barely updates via USB or god forbid trip to dealership. One example - with software updates in Tesla I got (among many other useful features) rear collision detection and avoidance (not just infotainment, but core software update), and it saved me from a nasty accident.

pingu_nootnoot

well, maybe you can bribe your way out with bitcoin. Just carry a wallet on a watertight USB stick and practice your swallowing skills regularly.

Doughnutpower

USB beat earnings up .12 cents. I picked another winner

Rare-ish_Bird

Tomorrow, market sentiment will be umm....down. So you better beat earnings handily, or you'll be pulled down into the abyss, CFG and USB. 

Quexana

If you're in "Fuck it, I'm gambling" mode. USB 2 day calls, then sell tomorrow after they report earnings.

Awkward_Potential_

I think people should own both. But if things go badly enough that we need to hop on a plane and GTFO, which one of those assets can you store on a small USB looking device, and if need be, you can store by remembering 16 words? Gold is heavy and you're not getting far with gold bullion going though security.

scorned_butter

His response was removed, but he responded to this comment essentially saying "wah wah wah there isn't any electronics on this list" not understanding that those tariff codes **all correspond to electronics.** HTSUS 8471 – Automatic data processing machines Includes laptops, desktops, servers, and workstations. HTSUS 8473.30 – Parts and accessories for computing machines (8471) Includes motherboards, GPUs, storage drives, fans, cables, and power supplies. HTSUS 8486 – Semiconductor manufacturing equipment Includes wafer fabrication tools, lithography machines, etching and cleaning systems. HTSUS 8517.13.00 – Smartphones Includes mobile phones with internet connectivity and apps. HTSUS 8517.62.00 – Data, voice, or image transmission equipment Includes Wi-Fi routers, modems, network switches, and VoIP equipment. HTSUS 8523.51.00 – Solid-state non-volatile storage devices Includes SSDs, USB flash drives, and SD cards. HTSUS 8524 – Recorded media Includes CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray discs loaded with software, music, or video. HTSUS 8528.52.00 – Computer monitors with digital input Includes LCD and LED computer monitors that connect via HDMI, DisplayPort, etc. HTSUS 8541.10.00 – Non-light-emitting diodes Includes rectifier and signal diodes used in power and signal circuits. HTSUS 8541.21.00 – Transistors with a dissipation rate ≤1 watt Includes low-power transistors for switching and amplification. HTSUS 8541.29.00 – Other transistors Includes medium and high-power transistors not covered under 8541.21. HTSUS 8541.30.00 – Thyristors, diacs, and triacs Includes solid-state switches used in AC control and power conversion. HTSUS 8541.49.10 – Infrared light-emitting diodes (LEDs) HTSUS 8541.49.70 – Ultraviolet LEDs HTSUS 8541.49.80 – White light LEDs HTSUS 8541.49.95 – Other LEDs not elsewhere classified Includes a broad range of LED lighting and signaling components. HTSUS 8541.51.00 – Gallium arsenide (GaAs) semiconductor devices Includes high-frequency and optoelectronic components. HTSUS 8541.59.00 – Other semiconductor devices Includes specialized semiconductors such as sensors and signal processors. HTSUS 8541.90.00 – Parts of the above semiconductor devices Includes mounts, connectors, housings, and other supporting hardware. HTSUS 8542 – Electronic integrated circuits and microassemblies Includes microprocessors, memory chips, logic and analog ICs.

scorned_butter

HTSUS 8471 – Automatic data processing machines Includes laptops, desktops, servers, and workstations. HTSUS 8473.30 – Parts and accessories for computing machines (8471) Includes motherboards, GPUs, storage drives, fans, cables, and power supplies. HTSUS 8486 – Semiconductor manufacturing equipment Includes wafer fabrication tools, lithography machines, etching and cleaning systems. HTSUS 8517.13.00 – Smartphones Includes mobile phones with internet connectivity and apps. HTSUS 8517.62.00 – Data, voice, or image transmission equipment Includes Wi-Fi routers, modems, network switches, and VoIP equipment. HTSUS 8523.51.00 – Solid-state non-volatile storage devices Includes SSDs, USB flash drives, and SD cards. HTSUS 8524 – Recorded media Includes CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray discs loaded with software, music, or video. HTSUS 8528.52.00 – Computer monitors with digital input Includes LCD and LED computer monitors that connect via HDMI, DisplayPort, etc. HTSUS 8541.10.00 – Non-light-emitting diodes Includes rectifier and signal diodes used in power and signal circuits. HTSUS 8541.21.00 – Transistors with a dissipation rate ≤1 watt Includes low-power transistors for switching and amplification. HTSUS 8541.29.00 – Other transistors Includes medium and high-power transistors not covered under 8541.21. HTSUS 8541.30.00 – Thyristors, diacs, and triacs Includes solid-state switches used in AC control and power conversion. HTSUS 8541.49.10 – Infrared light-emitting diodes (LEDs) HTSUS 8541.49.70 – Ultraviolet LEDs HTSUS 8541.49.80 – White light LEDs HTSUS 8541.49.95 – Other LEDs not elsewhere classified Includes a broad range of LED lighting and signaling components. HTSUS 8541.51.00 – Gallium arsenide (GaAs) semiconductor devices Includes high-frequency and optoelectronic components. HTSUS 8541.59.00 – Other semiconductor devices Includes specialized semiconductors such as sensors and signal processors. HTSUS 8541.90.00 – Parts of the above semiconductor devices Includes mounts, connectors, housings, and other supporting hardware. HTSUS 8542 – Electronic integrated circuits and microassemblies Includes microprocessors, memory chips, logic and analog ICs.

scorned_butter

Damn you're an idiot. Do you think those classification codes are just for decoration? If you'd bother to look **any** of them up, you'd see what they correspond to 1. HTSUS 8471 – Automatic data processing machines Includes laptops, desktops, servers, and workstations. 2. HTSUS 8473.30 – Parts and accessories for computing machines (8471) Includes motherboards, GPUs, storage drives, fans, cables, and power supplies. 3. HTSUS 8486 – Semiconductor manufacturing equipment Includes wafer fabrication tools, lithography machines, etching and cleaning systems. 4. HTSUS 8517.13.00 – Smartphones Includes mobile phones with internet connectivity and apps. 5. HTSUS 8517.62.00 – Data, voice, or image transmission equipment Includes Wi-Fi routers, modems, network switches, and VoIP equipment. 6. HTSUS 8523.51.00 – Solid-state non-volatile storage devices Includes SSDs, USB flash drives, and SD cards. 7. HTSUS 8524 – Recorded media Includes CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray discs loaded with software, music, or video. 8. HTSUS 8528.52.00 – Computer monitors with digital input Includes LCD and LED computer monitors that connect via HDMI, DisplayPort, etc. 9. HTSUS 8541.10.00 – Non-light-emitting diodes Includes rectifier and signal diodes used in power and signal circuits. 10. HTSUS 8541.21.00 – Transistors with a dissipation rate ≤1 watt Includes low-power transistors for switching and amplification. 11. HTSUS 8541.29.00 – Other transistors Includes medium and high-power transistors not covered under 8541.21. 12. HTSUS 8541.30.00 – Thyristors, diacs, and triacs Includes solid-state switches used in AC control and power conversion. 13. HTSUS 8541.49.10 – Infrared light-emitting diodes (LEDs) 14. HTSUS 8541.49.70 – Ultraviolet LEDs 15. HTSUS 8541.49.80 – White light LEDs 16. HTSUS 8541.49.95 – Other LEDs not elsewhere classified Includes a broad range of LED lighting and signaling components. 17. HTSUS 8541.51.00 – Gallium arsenide (GaAs) semiconductor devices Includes high-frequency and optoelectronic components. 18. HTSUS 8541.59.00 – Other semiconductor devices Includes specialized semiconductors such as sensors and signal processors. 19. HTSUS 8541.90.00 – Parts of the above semiconductor devices Includes mounts, connectors, housings, and other supporting hardware. 20. HTSUS 8542 – Electronic integrated circuits and microassemblies Includes microprocessors, memory chips, logic and analog ICs.

K_Linkmaster

I have a direct from China shipment on its way to me. It's only 1 small item, but it's a USB bluray for my Plex server. I have not been charged a tariff, yet. Item is in Los Angeles since Friday. I ordered thru Canada 2x and also still no tariff. I actually want a tariff charge on paper to show people how it works. The lady living beside me is still a tariff tard.

Training_Pay7522

European, I cancelled Netflix and Disney+ personally. As for Youtube Premium (a must on a smart tv), I'll likely buy some USB dongle with one of those adblocking softwares to see it for free. Amazon's harder to replace.

throwaway00119

They’ve already been selling USD/USB and buying gold. It was a story for the past 5 years. 

LibrarianUnfair528

8471 Automatic data processing (ADP) machines (e.g., computers, servers) and units thereof. 8473.30 Parts and accessories for ADP machines (e.g., computer parts, motherboards, etc.). 8486 Machines and apparatus used for manufacturing semiconductor devices or electronic integrated circuits (e.g., photolithography machines). 8517.13.00 Smartphones. 8517.62.00 Machines for the reception, conversion and transmission or regeneration of voice, images, or other data, including modems, routers, and networking equipment. 8523.51.00 Solid-state non-volatile storage devices (e.g., USB flash drives, SSDs). 8524 Media used for recording sound or other phenomena, whether or not recorded (older category, includes discs, tapes, etc.—less common today). 8528.52.00 Monitors (specifically those with video signal input via connectors like HDMI, DVI, etc.), likely used for computers. 8541.10.00 Diodes, other than light-emitting diodes (LEDs). 8541.21.00 Transistors, with a dissipation rate <1W. 8541.29.00 Other transistors not elsewhere specified. 8541.30.00 Thyristors, diacs and triacs (semiconductor switching devices). 8541.49.10 through 8541.49.95 Light-emitting diodes (LEDs) and photovoltaic devices (solar cells), with the number varying by function and integration. 8541.51.00 Gallium arsenide LEDs (used in high-efficiency optical devices). 8541.59.00 Other semiconductor light-emitting devices. 8541.90.00 Parts of diodes, transistors, and similar semiconductor devices. 8542 Electronic integrated circuits and microassemblies, including microprocessors, controllers, and memory chips.

mikeedla

Excluded HTSUS Headings/Subheadings and Their Items: 1. 8471 – Automatic data processing machines (computers) and units thereof 2. 8473.30 – Parts and accessories for automatic data processing machines (e.g. computer parts) 3. 8486 – Machines and apparatus for the manufacture of semiconductor devices or integrated circuits 4. 8517.13.00 – Smartphones 5. 8517.62.00 – Base stations for wireless networks 6. 8523.51.00 – Solid-state non-volatile storage devices (e.g. flash memory, USB drives) 7. 8524 – Media for the recording of sound or other phenomena (e.g. DVDs, CDs) 8. 8528.52.00 – Monitors (color, used with automatic data processing machines) 9. 8541.10.00 – Diodes (excluding light-emitting diodes) 10. 8541.21.00 – Transistors (≤ 1 W dissipation) 11. 8541.29.00 – Other transistors 12. 8541.30.00 – Thyristors, diacs, triacs 13. 8541.49.10 – Light-emitting diodes (LEDs), used in backlighting 14. 8541.49.70 – Other LEDs for use in general lighting 15. 8541.49.80 – Other LEDs 16. 8541.49.95 – Other semiconductor devices (not elsewhere specified) 17. 8541.51.00 – Solar cells (not assembled into panels) 18. 8541.59.00 – Other photosensitive semiconductor devices 19. 8541.90.00 – Parts of diodes, transistors, and similar semiconductor devices 20. 8542 – Electronic integrated circuits (e.g. microchips)

Rino-feroce

So now China can stick a flash USB card worth 50 cents to a t-shirt or a pair of shoes, and export tax free?

BagelsRTheHoleTruth

Puts on XLF, WFC, USB, CFG, HYG, and QQQ. Mostly June expirations. Shorter dated QQQ calls to hedge, and lots of cash to average down on pumps.

Curlymoeonwater

Possibly cheap for a reason; they've been restructuring their business units for the past 4 years under new CEO. Huge complex international bank that I sometimes want to give up on, but it's a small position and dividend gets reinvested so I just let it sit. USB seems to be one of the best of the regionals. Morningstar profile: " With assets of around $680 billion, U.S. Bancorp is one of the largest regional banks in the US with its footprint in 26 states. The bank’s branch network is mostly in midwestern and western markets. U.S. Bancorp has a comprehensive product set, with offerings in retail and commercial banking, credit cards, mortgages, payment services, trust, and wealth services." They give it an "Exemplary" capital allocation rating and a wide moat. But with all the questions about tariffs and how that will affect the economy, I'm not in a hurry buy more.

TheRedPyramid45

Ok, I will look into Citi and USB. Can you possibly say why you own those two? I want to get your perspective so I can add that to my own research!

Curlymoeonwater

I own a little PNC that I acquired during the COVID crash. I also own JPM, Wells Fargo, Citi and USB. Citi has been throwing off a good dividend which I reinvest in shares; hopefully new management will improve things - for me it's a value stock. I'm most interested USB - one of the largest regionals with business in 26 states and seems to have made good acquisitions in the past. Was doing well last year but I'm now under water. It's on my list of positions to add to for the long run.

Fluck_Me_Up

You can take my *HULBURTFI ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH USB-C CHARGING WITH CABLE AND UNIVERSAL MOUNT FOR MIRROR* from my cold minty hands, they’ve earned my loyalty as a consumer.  I’ve only had to buy five in the past year because they keep breaking, which is well below the average market failure rate!

pojosamaneo

Does this mean the amount of cheap shit from companies with nonsensical names will be reduced? If I see one more USB C charger from Schwingyuan, I'm gonna scream.

Sydnxt

The airs great too (I work in IT and use those fuckers all the time) If you don’t care about a slightly better battery, HDMI port, extra USB-C, SD CARD, or a 3x brighter screen Get the air.

Decent-Photograph391

Exactly. I get micro USB cables on Temu for $1.50 each. CDW in the US wants $20 for a comparable quality cable.

Decent-Photograph391

Not everything. My company uses barcode scanners that use micro-USB cables. CDW wants $20 per cable. I get replacements on Temu for $1.50 each. Just as well made, without the criminal pricing for something that costs less than $1 to make.

wheres-my-take

one thing that supports your argument is that when inflation hit a few years ago, it was one of the first times people didn't really change spending habits. Milk and egg prices went up, and people just... kept buying milk and eggs. or whatever the product was. Smart phones are sort of necessary for all types of employment these days so thats another factor. And apple switching to USB-C wan't even because of any american consumer pressure, it took european legislation to just make it more practical to change across the board. Apple can also probably eat a lot of tariff costs, unlike most companies.

iismitch55

I think the last 5-6 generations of phones are about what most consumers are looking for. Gone are the days of a new phone coming out with major innovations and paradigm shifts. The only “feature” of new iOS phones I care about is them finally jumping to USB-C, and even that isn’t enough to get me to upgrade. The trend I generally see is people forgoing upgrades for a year or two longer, because the pace of innovation has slowed. Maybe consumers will evaluate the value proposition or maybe as long as they can afford the monthly payments (like with cars) they’ll just accept the new normal. Honestly my experience leans towards the latter.

isinkthereforeiswam

They do. And their quality is awful. China sells 50cc & 150cc scooters like hot cakes. They have like 2-3 major manufacturers of them but hundreds of resellers. The scooters use the japanese GY6 motor, which is patented. China's been ripping it off for decades. But, the build quality is awful. Poor metal causes engine fissues and leaking oil. Bolts rust off, etc. China's quality has gotten better, and they can make quality goods. But, only when they're absolutely forced to. EG: iphones are good, b/c Apple pays for quality build process and materials. When left to their own devices, China will rip off a patent then use the shoddiest materials possible to and as many cut corners to expedite the build. If they can get away with it, they'll just take some old POS and just slap a new sticker on it with a name-brand. All these fake SSD drives.. they come out of China. They slap a USB drive in an SSD case and sell it as an SSD. They're masters of this stuff. They've been doing it for ages. They have very little consumer protection, and it's all about "who you know" (guanxi) to protect yourself, your business and your friends/family from getting screwed by others. The tariffs on china are basically just forcing US to look for another source of cheap labor.. Russia being it. Everything Trump and friends are doing is designed to funnel business to Russia to get their economy back on its feet so they can keep up the war and move on Europe.

slowwolfcat

> Just browse Temu for 10 minutes and you'll see. like toys, phone cases, USB hubs etc ?

TheMountainLife

Let's not forget Amazon. I looked up dry erase boards today and I'm seeing brands like Vusign and Gmaophy lol. Everything from USB cables to spatulas on Amazon are some sort of never heard of Chinese brand that probably won't exist 6 months from now when it breaks and you need to do a warranty return.

RJ5R

been telling people to go out and buy what you need. Come May, an anker USB-C phone charger could be $45

george8888

More importantly than any of this: 1. Is he a [fiduciary](https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/what-is-a-fiduciary-en-1769/)? 2. What does he charge you for his services? My mother had her funds with someone at USB. The broker put her in garbage equities that offered huge kickbacks to the broker. If your broker is a fiduciary, and isn't taking an unreasonable fee, [you'll be fine](https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/27/the-inspiring-story-of-the-worst-market-timer-ever.html). Otherwise, regardless of what's happened over the past week, you won't be fine.

earthcomedy

so SSDs are getting cheaper? 1TB Sandisk USB stick - $75 on amazon right now. 4TB nvMes are stable over last few months I think.

cinciNattyLight

Anybody got some good LEAPS to check out? I’m looking at Googl, Amzn, C, USB, CMG, and MSFT. Maybe even Target…

RedditAddict6942O

I'm drunk regourds. None of you remember payphones or vinyl or boogies or the smell of leaded gasoline. Or RCA jack, the USB of my day. Ieaded gas smelled amazing BTW. That's why the globalists banned it. Tertaethyl lead, what a sensual chemical. Crazy how there's been a few thousand generations of modern humans. Most of us just live and die and that's it. Like mayflies. I grew up hoping we would inhabit the stars a few generations after mine. Imaging having moon landing followed by a guy selling shoes and watches.  Now I think we might burn this planet out of stupidity. Don't worry, the trans whatever's will be vanquished.  Depressing.

nigelfitz

they should go for it EU strong armed Apple to switching to USB-C ports & China forced them to having RCS... they got power. make all those tech giants at his inauguration come after him

T8ert0t

If you leave a CAD file of the factory or shipping port facility you want to build on a USB stick and put it under your pillow, the Infrastructure Fairy takes it and builds it for you.

bsurmanski

I'd argue few people even care about the desktop. Everything is web and cloud. Google docs/drive is hugely convenient because your docs are everywhere, on every device. No need to worry about backups, or USB drives, or version compatibility. As much as I love OSS, libreoffice and most open source software is a poor replacement for most people. It's like convincing people to go back to hoarding DVDs from web streaming like Netflix 

cchiz

Did you take a picture of your phone with a camera, then take the SD card out of the camera, then put the SD card in a USB card reader, then plug the card reader into your PC, then upload the picture with your PC?

spideyghetti

My company locks the USB port

No_Run3357

USB stick with their meme coins on,

sth128

Not anymore. USA about to be starved of products, foods, and porn. USA about to become USB: United States of Boycotted. Have fun.

TeranOrSolaran

I saw a post today, that I cannot find now, that the USB bank expected the market to rise in April as the uncertainty of the tariff will have past since they will have been implemented.

EmbarrassedOrchid685

Can they still be jacked by kids with a USB stick?

Lkrambar

The EU can’t put restrictions on Tesla in particular and that’s because of EU competition law (the guys who forced Apple to adopt USB C). They will target products from Republican states though. Hard.

goulson

True! I keep a (USB of course 😄) battery back handy for when I go running and want to listen to music, but my phone is low. Regardless of whether you prefer USB or mag, I can fully agree on the benefit of a portable battery. I just wouldn't want to rely on it as something I use as part of my normal routine to keepy phone on, given how bad I am at remembering to charge my stuff in general.

Revolutionary_Sky_99

I get it. I’d prefer to maintain a USB-C charging option, too. Another benefit of the MagSafe battery option is that it works even when you don’t have access to AC power, of course.

goulson

I appreciate the suggestion, truly. But this is yet another thing that I have to remember to keep charged. Plus, it is far bulkier in the hand than just my phone. It costs $40. It might not work with my phone case on. This seems like mediocre solution to a problem that currently I do not have, because my phone has a USB-c charger. A cable running from the center bottom is cheaper, more nimble in the hand, I don't have to rely on the one thing I bought (I can literally plug a cable into any number of USB devices as I go about my day), is kinder to the environment with less waste, and always works when I need it to as long as I have electricity.

ayy_md

Toyota is same thing, 2022 Rav4 and 2022 Camry require a USB A cable.

BedContent9320

"Apple, still throwing tantrums over the EU decision to mandate USB-C pivots to "if I can't use my special port I'm not gonna give you any ports""

MeowTheMixer

Forced standardization on the port, it does not require a port. So if you have a port, it must be USB-C. If you don't have a port, then the rule doesn't apply.

harrymfa

The US is as big of a threat for the EU as Russia. The EU as a block, has a consumer market that has a lot of bargaining power, and they have exercised it, ordering Apple to include USB-C to their iPhones as one small example. Big American corporations rather deal with their consumers divided, Brexit was a big win for them. I am perplexed that Europe gives free rein to Apple, Google META and the like to control their information. China has avoided a lot of internal division by having Baidu, Wechat, etc and tightly controlling American big tech’s flow of information coming in.

harrymfa

They can yield to pressure, they tried to pull off the same with the MacBook Pros, the famous DongleBooks that were USB-C only for years until they finally gave consumers the ports they wanted back.

tokeytime

Or you could just use one of the 6000 USB c cables you already have

MaranzaMachia

So thei will sell you a wireless USB c port for 159.99 and they will call it innovation

Un13roken

I do use a gan charger in general. And also my laptop charges with a 100w pd charger.  Im just saying, charging from modern pc's USB C ports is pretty fast. And reasonably viable. No longer takes like 4 hours to charge your phone. You can plug it into your phone, get some emails done and have your phone charged in like an hour or so. Comparable to standard chargers.

Un13roken

Even from my PC, with USB C, my Samsung charges at 15W speeds for sure. At least it pops ut the 'fast charging' text.

Chicken65

I have to assume the lack of port will just push more people into iCloud storage. The high speed port into a laptop USB-C provides very fast external data transfer.

BottAndPaid

Yea that's literally what I said above. The EU forc d them to go USB C and now they're moving to portless.

randomuser1029

I believe it should work with most other phones with wireless charging but my USB-c charger will work with my laptop, video game controllers, battery charger and tons of other items around the house. Wireless charging isn't a bad thing but being forced into it only complicates things

notarealaccount_yo

Your interpretation of the original comment was just weirdly incorrect I think lol. They said "They really hate USB C." "They" meaning apple, but I think you interpreted their comment and mine as referring to apple users/consumers. We're talking about the manufacturer here. They were forced to switch to USB C because of EU regulations.

Slow-Offer7075

I’m confused. Why would iPhone users prefer to have multiple cables around when USB C is pretty much the standard in all sorts of devices including Mac books as well as products that apple doesn’t make. Obviously apple wants to have a proprietary cable so they can make more money off of apple users but that is only a negative thing for iPhone users. What am I missing?

Randyreddit11

What? They finally adopted a USB-C charging port after kicking and screaming for a decade and now they want to remove the charging port altogether? Apple has become a fucking joke.

WhiteHornedStar

They're really upset they forced them to use USB, huh?

raunchyfartbomb

I have also had many cars where car play would not work wirelessly unless you first triggered it using the USB-A cable. The fact that it requires USB-A when UsB-C ports are present is idiotic too.

EaZyMellow

I’m all for a portless phone. I honestly thought that was going to be the conclusion when the EU demanded that if it has a port, it has to have USB-C (a proprietary technology)

FinestObligations

I'm really starting to doubt Apple as a competent product organisation. Wtf is this, are they doing this just to spite EU legislation on forcing them to use USB-c? NO ONE wants this.

Beginning_Ad841

Wouldn’t adaptors USB-a ti sub-c solve that?

GongTzu

Apple removing the USB-C port in jest is just pure gold 😂. Now we all need to buy wireless chargers, e-waste here we go again.

footterr

To everyone who didn't read the article, the phone will still have a port: >But Apple ultimately decided not to adopt a port-free design with the new iPhone, which will still have a USB-C connector. One major reason: There were concerns that removing USB-C would upset European Union regulators, who mandated the iPhone switch to USB-C and are scrutinizing the company’s business practices.

neverthy

Apple really don't want that USB-C don't they? Look at the lengths they will go in order to add something that will break so they can milk customers

gaysaucemage

People have been speculating this supposed port free iPhone since iPhone X. It’s never going to happen, they can’t sell in the EU without a USB-C port.

SeaHistorian1814

One month ago I discovered a USB bluetooth wireless carplay plug for $40 on amazon that converts my wired plug in carplay suv to wireless. It works awesome! Took 5 mins to setup; only negative compared to a native wireless carplay car except that sometimes when switching between audible and podcast I have to click and select carplay. That’s it. Agreed that there’s an entire generation of cars roughly between 2014-2020 where a large # came with wired carplay but didn’t support wireless and a lot of these were the ones who sundowned wireless updates. Mine is solidly in the middle of that age range…. new enough for cooled and heated seats and collision avoidance, but not new enough for wireless devices or Radar assist cruise control.

febreze_air_freshner

Can't use it while charging, can't connect to another device for transferring files, can't use an external drive or USB for extra storage, forced to buy over priced products to replace the ports, forced to use air drop (which can't be used to transfer to non-apple devices), forced to use Bluetooth (garbage), etc.

Additional_Mail_8887

If they go portless, then you won’t be able to use apple CarPlay in MANY cars. My 2024 KIA Sportage requires a USB-A cable for CarPlay. There is a USB-C port for changing only and CarPlay won’t work without plugging it in. We bought the top of the line model.

Bourgi

I haven't heard of new Hondas being stolen. Kias and Hyundai's are stolen because of kids figuring out you can just plug in a USB stick into the ignition and turn it. They weren't built with immobilizers to prevent any random objects from starting it.