STEM

That_anonymous_guy18

STEM 55k in TFSA, 100k in RSU, 10k in ROTH

Fjotla

STEM avgd at $90 still holding tho, diamond handing till it skyrockets

br0b1wan

Yeah private sector STEM research for example

Ok_Lawyer_3501

STEM reverse going up I would not touch it tho

bubbagumpskrimps222

STEM or corporate Finance & Accounting mostly.

job_or_no_job

Your post reeks of xenophobia, but yes all the Indians must be somehow related to Sundar Pichai. You’re also conflating “tech support” with skilled engineers, doctors, etc who are the majority of who is impacted by this. STEM fields are already disproportionately white, and Asians even more overrepresented, so unless this was paired with some kind of support to increase STEM education for Black, Latino, or native Americans, what you’re actually saying is that the jobs should go to white people (men) instead. Source for racial & gender gaps in STEM occupations: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/science-technology-math-race-ethnicity-gender-diversity-gap

job_or_no_job

Lmaoo this is some ignorant nonsense. I have friends on H1Bs who are some of the most brilliant researchers and engineers at Google, Microsoft, etc. When you say American here you mean white. The talent simply doesn’t exist here, nor is the educational training for STEM fields being made accessible to most Americans, white or otherwise.

Mharciello

I dont know whats STEM, but id rather teach a phD before that. Let them be genuine profesionals and experts, not ghey stuff

CEOofBeanz

It’s not necessarily true that we absolutely need immigrants to grow our tech industry. Now listen, at current standing we are certainly dependent on many H-1B immigrants in tech. But it needs to begin at the public school level, not H-1B which is the last step in the process. We need kids learning more complicated STEM, earlier. More programs to promote the success which can be achieved through this path, etc.

CapeMOGuy

I would rather call this a boon to currently underemployed US entry level STEM job seekers.

necessaryGood101

Whatever. The thing is, Trump is giving its STEM edge all away to China on a platter.

BeneficialNatural610

Big tech can afford it, but not small start ups. It's also short-sighted to assume everyone on h1b is in tech or engineering. There are many STEM professionals and experts in very niche fields with very low domestic labor supply who rely on H1b. Consider healthcare workers, teachers, researchers, mathematicians, physicists, molecular biologists, doctors, actuaries, statisticians, etc. Sure, there are Americans who can fill some of these roles, but we have H1b for a reason and there are many shortages in these fields. We should also consider the fact that this fee was dropped on us without warning. Many businesses have not had the chance to adjust their hiring practices or prepare their current H1b employees for this type of disruption. It will completely wreck the lives of many H1b holders and their families. It's extremely wreckless and it gives no consideration to everyone relying on the program 

bossholmes

Thanks for taking the time, have a few friends in public markets myself. Just curious on why you didn't consider (or make) the move to the buy-side? Esp when healthcare analysts are in super high-demand (esp pharma). Did you come from a STEM background yourself?

Smurf_Crime_Scene

STEM degrees are worthless when the likes of Brainworm Roadkill Jr are going to take every scientific discipline back to the Dark Ages.

pmotiveforce

Good luck with your STEM degrees on the next decade, retards.

Low_Administration22

Too many people in the US are too busy getting liberal degrees to be professionally mad rather than get a STEM degree.

Worf_Of_Wall_St

I suspect one reason that that doesn't happen is that Latin American countries have even lower STEM graduation rates than the United States, in both percentage of graduates and absolute number of graduates.

pinghing

That's 100,000 bankrupt American farmers that could've had those jobs in STEM

Montezooma49ers

If any big tech drops, I'll be there, between AI and an entry level graduate from a STEM degree it will all work out. Every worker learns more on the job than at college. 

fellowautists

For anyone thinking this will fix unemployment: We’ve seen the lowest immigration numbers, H1b approvals, renewals, immigrant visas, international students. Etc since pre COVID. Yet unemployment is still rising every month. We are at 7% unemployment rate. H1bs make up 0.3% of jobs and 2-3% of STEM jobs.

Worf_Of_Wall_St

The training you are referring to though is higher education, usually in STEM. I would love to see STEM curriculums become a larger percentage of college enrollments in the U.S. but how will this tax lead to that?

edtate00

Students are a funny problem. Especially in STEM, colleges are selling access to OPT for 2 years, which is a pipeline to H1b, the green cards, and citizenship. I have to believe that access to the US job market is one of the reasons foreign students will pay full tuition for graduate work in the states. This has two effects. First it crowds out domestic students from these programs. Secondarily it depresses pay for these areas (more supply always drops prices). Without the US employment pipeline to repay the tuition investment, the attractiveness of STEM will probably increase and draw more domestic talent. Assuming India and China continue growing and developing faster than the west, this foreign demand for school and availability of cheap foreign labor would have been destined to drop eventually. This probably just pulled a crisis ahead a few years.

Blue026

Or companies just hire domestically. The labor markets are full of recent STEM grads who can’t find a job

Blue026

No it’s not. Markets don’t care about it The vast majority of H1Bs are for entry to middle tier engineers or STEM jobs. Most of it is to get cheaper white collar labor or underpay positions. It’s been a form of wage suppression in different labor markets. There are no H1B doctors, licensed medical jobs, nurses etc. If anything, it will boost job numbers as companies will have to hire domestic employees.

Idaho1964

Those companies can afford it. Pay for free university in STEM to qualified Americans.

WetRacoon

Shocking amount of nonsense in the comments. It’s also blatantly obvious none of you work in big tech, certainly not in a role that handles hiring and comp. Not only is underpaying H1Bs illegal, but in tech they’re getting paid just as much as US born hires.  You think half your tech CEOs, who are foreign born, are making less?  Have you seen the makeup of senior managers and directors at these companies?  Of course you haven’t, because you’ve bought the anti-immigrant rhetoric hook-line-and-sinker. Americans will do anything but look in the mirror and admit that this has happened because you’ve been outworked by foreign born students and workers.  Plain and simple.  Tech doesn’t hire these people to save a buck (they don’t); they hire these people because they’re more talented than you.  And where does it start?  American universities.  The bulk of your top schools are private institutions where there exists no difference in tuition between domestics and internationals.  Guess what the makeup of graduating classes look, not only STEM, but also STEAM? America has let its public education be eaten alive by private interest, and has attempted to survive off a husk for decades.  Combined with the sheer laziness of the average American, along with the meteoric rise of anti-intellectualism, you’re finally feeling the consequences, but looking at the comments there’s obvious denial in play here. Either way, if order sticks (it likely won’t), it would devastate your ability to compete.  You won’t feel it today or even tomorrow, but years from now.  Sort of how you’re seeing the consequences of your own educational failings now, after decades of destroying your capacity to work hard. TLDR; Americans are dumber than foreign born talent and are also too dumb to recognize this fact

Shazz777

Most of you have no idea about the tech sector job market. I’m sure there are companies that are trying to penny pinch with the H1B program but usually that’s what offshoring to India, South America and Eastern Europe is for. The appeal of the H1B visa is that it handcuffs a highly skilled sought after engineer to a company for anywhere between 5-10 years until they get a green card. If Trump doesn’t fully back out of this, here’s what’s gonna happen: - Big Tech with good relationship with Trump admin are gonna get exemptions on the fees. - Wherever there’s a world class STEM university with internationals graduating and an immigration pathway like Canada, UK and Germany big tech companies already have offices there and they will just have to expand them. Startups on the other hand will look at working with specialized consulting companies who hire the talent in these countries and the startup gets them as contractors. I already know a lot of AI engineer types who are working for startups in America from Canada like this. This is probably not the right subreddit for this discussion but if you want more job security and better living conditions for Americans, you should support workers rights, unions and a socialist government investing in advanced technology sectors and infrastructure while offering free secondary education. This is just Trump setting up another quick money grab scheme that’s not gonna do you American citizens any good.

Brave-Reflection40

Just to play devil's advocate.....many U.S. citizens that have graduated from college with STEM degrees are having a hard time getting jobs. Why can't these companies simply hire U.S. citizens and just pay a little more rather than hiring Indians and Chinese and paying very little?

sonicking12

Are those domestic STEM graduates not getting jobs?

madison_hedgecock39

What exactly are you looking for? STEM graduation rates? Look them up

Affectionate-Act4981

Not likely.. tech will just decide to pause hiring and reorg more overseas and to Canada. What it'll really do is kill any remaining reason for anyone to want to pursue higher education in the US, because let's be honest  - it's too expensive for locals with the loans ballooning and the loan cap from the last bill killing legal/med school ambitions, and now no more foreign grads interested in STEM h1b either. Foreign grads (if they really think the education is valuable) will come, study, and then immediately leave for another country to work. As a citizen and an engineer this is obviously personally a good thing for me since I also happen to have my own software consulting business and will likely be in high demand now, but this will definitely mean we have a Soviet style brain drain in a few years.

IcyMinds

How many people you know that graduated from tech could not get a job because of H1B? Let me tell you the answer: 0. Because there are not enough people who are willing to go into STEM at graduate level. Smart kids go to law school med school, dumb kids can’t do math.

gizcard

About 20% of all STEM grads in USA were not born in USA

mylastserotonin

They have been in the country for 7 years, not on H1B for 7 years. 4 year college, 1 year OPT, 2 year STEM extension, and assuming they just got H1B, it would check out. Or 4 year college, 2 years master’s, 1 year OPT and then H1B. Either way, getting an H1B is the first step towards permanent residency, which is what anyone would want after working in a country for 6 years on a work visa + more if they were a student. Buying a house when you’re planning your future in the US is not crazy

dj_samuelitobx

Bro there are a million "cyber security" whatever the fucks.  I make more playing tracks off Spotify than a tech dork helping normies figure out 2fa. They made AI for this already and it's never going to take off, because machines do not produce clout. Humans do.  STEM grads should practice putting fries in my bag. 

d33p7r0ubl3

Colleges don’t exist to prepare people for the workforce. They’re to let people study fields they are interested in. I studied CS but I have more respect for an English major than a STEM major. At least these dudes know how to communicate

LordMohid

Lmfao you still living with this delusion? STEM jobs are competitively paid to H1b employees as well as citizens both. There is hardly any incentive to hire non Americans for highly skilled jobs. The H1b application itself requires LCAs and what not, go do some research before crying over personal skill issues, or is that too much for your brain cells?

luv2block

China has been producing more STEM graduates since 2007. This game is over, all that's left is for the fat lady to sing.

iD-10T_usererror

Dual degree engineer here. My first is in mechanical. 20+ years of industry experience. I suggest you do a search of "STEM crisis is a myth". I'm not sure why so many people decided to use this title for similar investigations but they did. In summary, America doesn't really value much of anything "engineering" or "science". The people that were busy getting MBA degrees in another building decided long ago that we could (and should) just outsource all that hard stuff. Mostly, because it's too expensive in their underdeveloped minds that only see the short term. The CEO's have the ear of government and want higher profits. Engineering was a high paying job that cost companies lots of money. So, they applied the simple economic principle of supply and demand by inventing a fake crisis to cut that cost by increasing supply. Now, we fill stadium on top of stadium with highly qualified engineering graduates every year to flood the labor market and drive down salary costs. Most CEOs, and both sides of the political aisle, promote student visas to bring in even more competition and drive costs down even more. After completing their degree in the US, most want to stay here and will take just about anything to get a work visa. The system is corrupt. Given that most people with STEM degrees end up as real estate agents, I don't have much confidence in your strategy here. Just look at the garbage America considers "innovation". Cryptocurrency being the main one that comes to mind. I think it would take another world war where America was pitted against China to bring back real demand for mechanical engineering initiatives.

Bravadette

Ooh that sounds cool. I'm actually STEM, in the plant science sector . So im mostly on reddit for nature, hiking, and environmental stuff (hence EV batteries). I started learning finance stuff on the side now that I have savings. I hope it works out for you. At your age I didnt have a penny to invest so its always good to see young ones making the best of it

Happy-Youth8497

STEM students have their professors and people that work in the industry, if you work in tech you know how much of a surplus in software engineers there are, in a sector that in my opinion kinda peaked with AI, while in the physical section we've barely touched, think about it. almost all work done through computers in an office can be automized or will be automized with AI, if not it can be outsourced to indians for bucks. I do not doubt your knowledge as a grad, but do you truly believe we're not behind on tech when it comes to physical stuff? compared to software

therealjerseytom

> if you ask most STEM students they'll tell you mechanical engineering will be the new hot field over compsci And what wisdom or crystal ball do these teenagers have exactly...? Engineering really doesn't come in firmly-distinguished buckets anymore, if it ever did. I say that as a mechanical engineering grad who does mostly software work and analysis these days.

redtitbandit

as of right now, 10:10am, my brokerage account is up more TODAY than i will earn working 2020 hours at my STEM job in 2025. today more than half of the stocks in my account are up +3.5%, one is up +40% I'm melting! Melting! Oh, what a world, what a world! Who would have thought.......

FawningDeer37

American politics as it pertains to economics makes no sense. Like, some dude who grows and sells soy to Brazil for a living will vote to stop selling things to Brazil solely to minorly inconvenience a guy like me with a STEM Masters.

Adorable_Is9293

In case anyone is not aware: autism is hereditary. That’s it. There’s no legitimate debate about the “causes” of autism. It’s just part of the wide spectrum of ways that humans can be and the associated traits can even be beneficial for some autistic people under certain circumstances. Autism is over-represented in the STEM fields, for instance. See also, Dr Grandin’s work on visual thinking and her revolutionizing of animal slaughter practices. See also, Tylenol is basically the *only* medication that pregnant women aren’t currently advised against taking. So OBVIOUSLY most pregnant women have taken it during the 9 months of their pregnancy. No causative link should be inferred. And, the old (and only) study linking vaccines to autism was retracted, the data was falsified and the author had conflicts of interest.

luv2block

The bigger issue is the educational system. China is producing more STEM graduates than anywhere else in the world. That's what is going to destroy America.

HangryNotHungry

BABA and ONC lifting up the china economy for China sector rotation for more investments in China AI, BIOTECH, and STEM 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈

HangryNotHungry

China stocks. Been beaten down and no one likes it for past years, but i see BABA sentiment lifting chinese sector along with more funding in China STEM/BIOTECH/AI Investments

HangryNotHungry

China stocks. Been beaten down and no one likes it for past years, but i see BABA sentiment lifting chinese sector along with more funding in China STEM/BIOTECH/AI Investments

throwaway2676

Not really close. I'm a STEM phd who actually works in CS making much more than you...who has developed a gambling addiction

Big-block427

I’m not a seer, which you may fancy yourself as. What I believe is that we’re in the early stages of a worldwide AI revolution, and the employment opportunities that are here now, but will clearly grow exponentially will afford the next couple of generations jobs in areas that today may not even exist. But, it requires a focus on STEM even more than we can now envision. For those who will really want it, the answer is always education, skill building and not being afraid to fail. I’m out now.

Tha_Sly_Fox

It hasn’t traded on fundamentals in years even back when Musk was darling of the left for his EV prowess and STEM background I remember almost 10 years ago a relative who works for a large American auto maker venting to me about how Tesla was valued higher than their company despite not having any financial stats to justify it

iBoMbY

Yes, China has 2.5 million STEM graduates more than the US every year, and all they do is copy your "freedom technology". lol. Your propaganda is getting really ridiculous.

DFW_BjornFree

Imagine working a real job that requires a STEM masters degree and making less than some guy trading options and futures in his boxers eating cheeto puffs and touching his lil johny.  Oh wait... why are my fingers cheesy

mygoodoldreddit

STEM going to 24.

Tkins

Data centers are not strictly for AI and ESPECIALLY not for LLMs. There is a ton of compute power used for all sorts of machine learning/AI beyond simple LLMs. Think about alpha evolve, alpha fold, your navigation, your search engines, ad and social media algorythms, the list goes on and on. In STEM research AI is involved in nearly 100% of all research. The OP is also full of shit. GPT 5 is a massive success. Consumers are just lost in what makes a good business case. GPT 5 is SOTA while being far far more efficient and cost effective. From a business standpoint that is a huge bonus to performance and profitability. Google was already ahead of the game in this domain, but now Open AI has both the efficiency advantage, intelligence advantage and agentic advantage. GPT 5 pro is also a sginificant step up in coding, agentic work and accuracy. Your average robosexual is not interseted in these things. They prefer sycophantic models that pump their ego, where GPT 5 is more factual and business profsesional. The vast majority of people are grossly misunderstanding the business side of AI and it's effectiveness. They seem to think these businesses are operating on the idea that RIGHT NOW AI is going to replace people, so when it doesn't , people claim it's all hype. That's not what they have been saying though. The earliest I've seen predicted by a reputable exec is Amodei from Anthropic who said we could see 50% of entry level white collar jobs replaced in 2026. We're still a year away from that. In AI terms, a year is massive progress. Other execs are not on this same timeline, they are looking at 2030's for actual job replacement. Even AI 2027, which is considered very agressive with its timelines, has a median disruption year of 2028.

Previous-Grocery4827

Not to mention the rampant H1B abuse gutting the middle class and causing really high unemployment for recent CS grads. We told them to get STEM degrees and then threw them to the wolves.

shmoopie_shmoopie

Lawyer is now a STEM field?

strawberrymiint

Just my thoughts so it might be complete bullshit. In China a lot of the older generation worked shitty factory jobs. They saved all their money and poured it into the education of their children. Asian culture puts a very high emphasis on education. These parents are sacrificing a lot so that their kid can go to a good university with the expectation that the kid gets a well paying corporate job. Also, many parents want their kid to be in a STEM field (doctor, engineer, or lawyer). So now you have a generation of Chinese youth who have been told all their life that if they try hard in school, they don’t have to work the same shitty job as their parents. Plus they all are in like the same 5 fields of study. China has more shit paying manufacturing jobs compared to white collar jobs. Idk much about Mexican culture, but I don’t there’s the pressure to become a doctor/lawyer/engineer/white collar worker. Also the one child policy in China didn’t help. Now parents/grandparents have exceedingly high expectations for the only kid in their family to succeed when the jobs aren’t there.

mygoodoldreddit

Well for anyone following along, STEM is up 25% this week and 82% this month. I think today’s close is going to help push this back towards 20 and ultimately having us retest the 52wk high.

HawaiiStockguy

The stock market is in a huge bubble, with the P/E of the S&P at almost 30 while it ignores the inevitable coming crash. By Christmas, The rise of authoritarianism will tank stocks inflation will be high and continuing to climb from trade wars and tariffs, and the falling USD. It is already moving up. Trump is firing those that accurately report the financial #s. Unemployment will be high and continuing to rise due to government layoffs, cancelations of government contracts and awards, and the reduced bilateral trade from tariffs. It is already moving up. The USD, already down 10 % will continue its decline as the free world turns against the US and its currency. Foreclosures, car repos and business failures will all be on the rise, due to inflation, trade wars and job losses. 25 % of buy now pay later purchases are currently for groceries The share of households becoming seriously delinquent on their auto loans and credit cards has already hit 14 yr highs. Credit card balances topped $1.2 trillion, rising 7.3% from the fourth quarter of last year. That is almost $4000 per person of any age. With the pause on student loan repayments ended, many are in dire straights. “The money that has to go to student loan payments now is money that can’t go to paying off credit card debt or building an emergency fund or working toward other financial goals that build a stable foundation,” Matt Schulz, chief credit analyst at LendingTree Student loan delinquencies jumped to 7.74% from 1% following the ending of a pandemic-era pause of reporting past-due loans on credit reports, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s first-quarter Household Debt and Credit Report. This will continue to worsen. Companies will fail and those surviving will see profits decline or turn into losses. Tourists to and within US , previously a big contributor to GDP will be way down, due to anger at and fear of the US coupled with people not having discretionary income to vacation. Airlines are continuing to cancel fights and entire routes to and from the US. Scientific research will grind to a halt, preventing future innovation in health care and all other industries due to cancellation of research grants, preventing innovation over the next 10 to 20 years Higher education will be dire financial straits, with some colleges and universities going belly up as foreign students flee or are kicked out and research grants disappear. Foreign students pay higher tuition that the Universities need, and spend foreign money in the US. They are not “ taking spots” from our kids, they are creating spots that keep our economy afloat. While unemployment will be high, those put of work will not take the low wage openings of the recently deported since they cannot survive on minimum wage and that work is dangerous and exhausting Deporting handymen, day laborers, restaurant workers, slaughterhouse workers, nursing home workers, childcare workers, and farm laborers will all fuel inflation and drive down rents and real estate valuations. This year’s college grads are not able to find work especially in the previously booming programing field and in all the defunded areas of STEM. Our young best and brightest, now saddled with student loans, are joining the ranks of the unemployed. Homelessness, property crime and food insecurity will continue to rise, because basic essentials will have become too expensive and job losses will take their toll. Homeowner’s insurance is going up in price due to catastrophic storms from worsening climate change. These issues will cause interest rates to rise, further exacerbating all the above problems The US will get closer to defaulting on debt with foreigners selling off US debt which will cause the AA rating to decline to A or worse.( Defaulting on debt is Trump’s go to move) Home prices will fall but higher rates will depress sales as more property comes onto the market. Rents will fall as valuations fall. Recent buyers will be upside down. New construction is down. Average time on the market is now 9 months and rising. The sellers market has ended Homeowners insurance will continue to rise due to climate change worsened “ natural” disasters. More and more people will not even be able to get insurance. This will continue to drive up condo HOAs Oil prices may rise due to war with Iran ( since we bombed them) , but may not go up as much as it should because of declines in demand worldwide. This will help fuel inflation. This will likely be worse than the great depression.

HawaiiStockguy

The stock market is in a huge bubble, with the P/E of the S&P at almost 30 while it ignores the inevitable coming crash. By Christmas, The rise of authoritarianism will tank stocks inflation will be high and continuing to climb from trade wars and tariffs, and the falling USD. It is already moving up. Trump is firing those that accurately report the financial #s. Unemployment will be high and continuing to rise due to government layoffs, cancelations of government contracts and awards, and the reduced bilateral trade from tariffs. It is already moving up. The USD, already down 10 % will continue its decline as the free world turns against the US and its currency. Foreclosures, car repos and business failures will all be on the rise, due to inflation, trade wars and job losses. 25 % of buy now pay later purchases are currently for groceries The share of households becoming seriously delinquent on their auto loans and credit cards has already hit 14 yr highs. Credit card balances topped $1.2 trillion, rising 7.3% from the fourth quarter of last year. That is almost $4000 per person of any age. With the pause on student loan repayments ended, many are in dire straights. “The money that has to go to student loan payments now is money that can’t go to paying off credit card debt or building an emergency fund or working toward other financial goals that build a stable foundation,” Matt Schulz, chief credit analyst at LendingTree Student loan delinquencies jumped to 7.74% from 1% following the ending of a pandemic-era pause of reporting past-due loans on credit reports, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s first-quarter Household Debt and Credit Report. Companies will fail and those surviving will see profits decline or turn into losses. Tourists to and within US , previously a big contributor to GDP will be way down, due to anger at and fear of the US coupled with people not having discretionary income to vacation. Airlines are continuing to cancel fights and entire routes to and from the US. Scientific research will grind to a halt, preventing future innovation in health care and all other industries due to cancellation of research grants, preventing innovation over the next 10 to 20 years Higher education will be dire financial straits, with some colleges and universities going belly up as foreign students flee or are kicked out and research grants disappear. Foreign students pay higher tuition that the Universities need, and spend foreign money in the US. They are not “ taking spots” from our kids, they are creating spots that keep our economy afloat. While unemployment will be high, those put of work will not take the low wage openings of the recently deported since they cannot survive on minimum wage and that work is dangerous and exhausting Deporting handymen, day laborers, restaurant workers, slaughterhouse workers, nursing home workers, childcare workers, and farm laborers will all fuel inflation and drive down rents and real estate valuations. This year’s college grads are not able to find work especially in the previously booming programing field and in all the defunded areas of STEM. Our young best and brightest, now saddled with student loans, are joining the ranks of the unemployed. Homelessness, property crime and food insecurity will rise, because basic essentials will have become too expensive and job losses will take their toll Homeowner’s insurance is going up in price due to catastrophic storms from worsening climate change. These issues will cause interest rates to rise, further exacerbating all the above problems The US will get closer to defaulting on debt with foreigners selling off US debt which will cause the AA rating to decline to A or worse.( Defaulting on debt is Trump’s go to move) Home prices will fall but higher rates will depress sales as more property comes onto the market. Rents will fall as valuations fall. Recent buyers will be upside down. New construction is down. Average time on the market is now 9 months and rising. The sellers market has ended Homeowners insurance will continue to rise due to climate change worsened “ natural” disasters. More and more people will not even be able to get insurance. This will continue to drive up condo HOAs Oil prices may rise due to war with Iran ( since we bombed them) , but may not go up as much as it should because of declines in demand worldwide. This will help fuel inflation. This will likely be worse than the great depression.

mygoodoldreddit

STEM up 15% this morning…

PrimaryShock384

This is truth. India emphasizes and always emphasized a lot on STEM in the hopes that people get a solid job with good pay. STEM is recognized as a better career path. This supplied with their overpopulation leads to everyone studying to be engineers. Here in America - we traditionally haven't until recently where people are gravitating towards CS/Math/Engineering. Now we have qualified engineers and folks in STEM looking for work but companies are used to cheap labor from India. Frankly I can't wait till government forces companies to stop using offshore services or granting visa's.

Memnoch1207

CVM - already did it's run from 7/23 ($5.12) to 7/28 ($10.40). STEM - ran a couple of weeks after it's reverse split on 6/23. It went from a post-split low of $5.93 on 6/26 to the post-split high of $19.48 on 7/28. INMB & UP - have slowly been getting covered without significantly driving the price up. The problem with any of these short interest articles is it's looking backwards for the short interest % without seeing how the stock has performed since the short interest was reported. The latest short interest is from the period 6/30 - 7/15, but the report wasn't released until 7/24. By the time the short interest report is released, it's already out of date.

RGV_KJ

US tech industry will collapse without H1B visas. India’s leverage is in services. Critical software infrastructure of major American companies is supported by Indian companies. It’s not really possible to replace H1B workers with American citizens overnight.  A lot of people don’t realize international students from India and China overwhelmingly enroll in Bachelors, Masters and PhD STEM programs at top universities in US. About 40% of tech startups in Bay Area have immigrant founders. 

BarryMihupinner

That has nothing to do with STEM your just a brofessional regard

Ok_Cry7572

College/Uni is probably the biggest waste of time and money right now for STEM unless you one of those going to the top unis

mygoodoldreddit

STEM back on the move up 10%+ today. Looking for a continuation tomorrow

LiamPhlegmsworth

Bruh colleges are wild these days. Everyone is retarded besides the STEM kids

DrElkSnout

My God people cannot still believe this. You don't actually think a degree means literally anything unless you're in a STEM field, right? Please tell me you realize that college is a scam for literally everyone except doctors, engineers, etc.

Spezalt4

Women in STEM has failed

SimplePc54-

I think you don't understand the basic principles of how this works. The manufacturing moved out of US because if continued in US they would have been uncompetitive in International markets or heck I would say even the domestic market would have been lost in few decades or they would face economic collapse. The only thing I can say your grivences are right is Software jobs at most . And honestly even that situation occurs because of capitalism. Let's even ignore that . I find the situation funny because it just shows the ridiculous level of ignorance American people have in general. Do you think your country can magically give you all 6 figure salaries and a good quality of life .It is never gonna happen . The truth is , your ego and ignorance is amplified due to the principal of American excellence . I have seen people at r/CSMajors crying for pathetic reason. What did you expect when all people start doing coding and CS degrees for the promise of a good life . Would inequality magically disappear. Nah , it is just plain ignorance at this point . In most of world , the life you think you deserve is lived by 10 to 20% percent of population. And US has the same or I would say higher proportion of that kind of people. You people just deny the truth of life and think life will get served on a silver platter . And ofcourse your fucking country suffers from extreme capitalism . Otherwise you would be better Europe especially after WW2 when world was in your hands . But you guys chose the wrong path . There is a reason that the median income in US is much lower than GDP per capita while it is not true in Europe. Your wealth distribution pyramid is fucked up and you try to blame the world for it You guys are too shameless to blame illegal immigrants for your housing crisis and problems when you very well know it is just capitalism . You blame china for cheap labour and India for cheap IT Sorry miss it is not our fault that your country is fucked up for normal people and you guys are too soft . Do you know what normal people in Asia do? They work for wages 500 -1000 USD a month and try to educate their children. To escape the cycle. You guys are simply weak . It is not your fault that you were born in a prosperous Country and haven't learnt how to grind like most of world does. Also, the software jobs exported are mostly due to it being a flexible industry which just needs and office and computer. Major costs are labour so ofcourse they will export . After all , they can hire a 80% skilled dev at less than half the cost . Much better and experienced dev at same cost . And no, it is not due to there being too many people that the wages are cheap (microsoft,Meta etc pay well and continuously increase the pay and incentives ) It is because they are good enough when the COL is very low . America is still the best country .(For the wealthy and talented ) Just not for its everyday joe. Even I would be in the country for my PHD since it has the leading universites for field of my interest. But it is not some charity . It is merit based . You guys just hope for handouts lmao . And before shouting something stupid . Most of your current leaders in STEM are immigrants or descend from immigrants from the current or last century . US itself is built on buying the talent lmao .

mygoodoldreddit

STEM continuation. 25% today. Another 20%!tomorrow?

Difficult_Middle_216

That argument is akin to "The automobile is going kill the horse and buggy industry". Yes, we are going to automate a lot of things increase productivity, BUT, that trade off means we re-educate the workforce, and we start in the schools. We push STEM so we have the workforce to grow the companies that rely on technology. That's what Japan did when they took our auto industry. The one job you had installing fuel tanks will be replaced by several jobs. For one, you will still, and always, need human oversight in an automated setting. That one horse and buggy driver was replaced by people several people working in rubber plants to make tires. The plastics industry took off. We needed people to eventually make wiring harnesses, textiles for carpets, seats and headliners, etc. What you're not factoring in, just like the horse and buggy, is all the unknown opportunities robotics and AI might bring. You're only focused on the 10 jobs replaced. We don't know what we don't know yet. AI needs programmers, more computing hardware and network infrastructure - and people have to produce that hardware, and software on some level. People have to do machine maintenance, delivery and installation. People will produce worn parts, deliver those parts and replace them. And who knows what other Industries could be invented by advances in AI/ML, quantum computing, etc.?

jpk195

I took JPOW 3 seconds to figure out the funny math. 🥭 coming harder for STEM now.

Queasy_Soil9646

I’m doing academic research in the US and China is pretty much killing it in most STEM fields with research output while american schools are trying to survive the science funding cuts. About time to learn Mandarin.

Gloomy-Database-780

The Beginning of the End for ASML: When “Smaller is Better” Becomes a Liability At ASML, they like it small.  Like, really small. Obsessively small. They bet the entire future of Dutch lithography (and let’s be honest, a good portion of Dutch GDP and  high-tech supply chain) on extreme miniaturization. High-Numerical Aperture (NA) optics, ultra-high-resolution, Extreme UV (EUV), because nothing says “innovation” like making things more fragile, more complex, much more expensive, and possibly harder to maintain. Meanwhile, growing lithography players like China, Korea, and Japan are working on alternative advanced lithography solutions that mat actually work without the eight-figure price tag, the maintenance nightmare, or the requirement to worship at the altar of a 13.5nm EUV light source that eats kilowatts like popcorn and may or may not decide to take a nap from time to time. Let’s talk about that magical High-Numerical Aperture (NA) tech. Sure, it reduces the diffraction-limited spot size. But it also shoves process flexibility and  resist formulation into a tight, dark corner where few chemists wants to go. The higher the NA, the lower the depth of field, with much less forgiving exposure settings. The thinner the resist, the worse the dry etching selectivity. Add in more complicated top and bottom anti-reflective coatings, tighter process windows, and guess what? The yield curve may start to look like the actual ASML  stock price forecast. And oh, the projection masks! ASML’s latest scanners require masks and reticles that are so complex, delicate and involving very expensive transmissive materials that they might as well come with their own therapist. Want to scale production? Better hope the mask lifespan isn't shorter than a Dutch summer. That’s if the alignment system doesn’t sneeze and shift your $400M system into a week-long downtime. Let’s not even start with the EUV illumination source. It's basically a miniature fusion reactor strapped to large mirror array requiring picometer (1/1000 nm) precision and somehow expected to run 24/7 without crying for help. Too bad there’s almost no field data (since barely anyone can afford one of these machines) to understand how often these monsters need service. So yes, it’s cutting-edge... in the same way cutting your budget in half with a scalpel is. And the punchline? The bottleneck in computing isn’t even at the transistor level anymore. It’s data movement. Interconnects. Routing. Things that photonic waveguides (with hundreds-of-nanometers features) can handle without sub-10nm insanity. That means all this resolution obsession is starting to look like solving a traffic jam by building a gate of many narrower roads...What a well thought idea.  Moor's Law? It’s hitting a wall harder than a Dutch bicycle courier on a rainy morning. Most industries are pivoting R&D to systems-level innovation, photonics, neuromorpics or software innovations. You know...things that may work without requiring a 400-million-dollar microscope. But don’t worry, ASML has a plan: PR. More LEGO kits, more journalists and analysts singing praises, more influencers pretending to know what NA means. Because nothing inspires confidence in a nation’s tech crown jewel like a desperate media blitz and sponsored STEM toy kits. Moreover it looks like the ASML’s $1 trillion narrative is built on a brittle foundation of overhyped EUV fantasies and nearly billion-euro hardware with unpredictable ROI. In an age where system-level optimization outpaces node scaling, their valuation is less tech leadership and more tech bubble. Investors should ask: are you buying into the future of semiconductors, or into the most fragile bottleneck in its supply chain? The future is uncertain, and ASML’s once-mighty empire may just be shrinking faster than its lithography nodes. Good luck ASML, you’re going to need it.

mygoodoldreddit

looking for a STEM continuation tomorrow. Up 45% and 23% Friday and Monday. Cooled a bit today after hitting 18.50. Looking for it to hit 20+ tomorrow.

SamsUserProfile

STEM Inc. Watch my DD post about it. It's gonna squeeze. Also, majority retail owned.

AntoniaFauci

What is driving the rally in STEM? I know it crashed algorithmically on BK concerns when they did the reverse split. But this rally has more than doubled that correction. Is it going to be a big winner from the Big Bankruptcy Bill?

Upper_Job4722

Check out STEM too

JonasClimbs

You are right about the time. I spend a lot of hours checking earnings, tech moats, news and charts. I had replaced video games in my life with stocks, as i find it more productive and i love the process of learning about the company hw/sw technology. It's close to my field of study (STEM-AI), but checking the balance sheets/charts is starting to be booring. I might move some of the money in the companies i don't really trust in (FinTech) to ETFs and than have some "play money" to buy the "AI" stocks i believe in (for example MU and theyre role in HBM, NAND and DRAM market)

mygoodoldreddit

It's happening! The squeeze is underway. It closed up over 45% on the day. HUGE volume. Take a look at STEM. I think this will continue next week.

HealthyFly1561

STEM 🚀🚀🚀

urAtowel90

My wife and I have worked hard to become millionaires. I'm from a middle class family, she is an immigrant from a third world country. I own one Fossil watch as my nice watch from HS, and have considered buying, uh, more Fossils for some variety now that we're millionaires. I will never buy a new Tudor or Rolex for thousands or tens of thousands, even slated to be worth $100M by retirement because we are both STEM PhDs. My brother-in-law installs countertops, but you know uh, good ones so they're at 75-80th percentile in household income nationally (in a low cost living area no less). I've explained investing to them a thousand times. Instead, they constantly struggle with living in a $150K "only 1100sqft house" that he constantly complains about because they waste all their money. I mentioned my interest in buying a new Fossil watch. He scoffed and said "I mean, they're good watches in HS ... but a watch is the ultimate male accessory!" So there you have it. He lives in a house he's ashamed of because they eat out a lot and because "a watch is the ultimate male accessory!"

HealthyFly1561

STEM 🚀

Spear_n_Magic_Helmet

I like the off-topic yet poignantly funny posts in here. Have that STEM videos on Pornhub energy.

TimeGrownOld

Oh man I've been on reddit for a decade now. I've been arguing for cryptocurrency for the entire time. It'd get you instabanned on r/wallstreet bets, indeed I am banned from r/personalfinance for even mentioning it. I'm a STEM grad so learning about the cryptographic/protocol part was fun. It was sad seeing scam after scam hit the community, but I suppose that's what happens with any new financial technology before the appropriate laws are in place (thanks for dragging your luddite feet Gary Gensler). Now, a decade later and we nation after nation building up their crypto reserves... not to mention the US companies and towns that are stockpiling. Not to mention the jobs it's created, the companies that have made a fortune from selling shovels (Coinbase, RH, etc). A literal multi-trillion dollar market cap. And yet, I'm still having the same debates about the validity of the underlying technology that I had a decade ago. I feel vindicated, but also now realize just how easily a little bias can blind logic.

HawaiiStockguy

The stock market is in a huge bubble, with the P/E of the S&P at almost 30 while it ignores the inevitable coming crash. By Christmas, The rise of authoritarianism will tank stocks inflation will be high and continuing to climb from trade wars and tariffs, and the falling USD. It is already moving up. Unemployment will be high and continuing to rise due to government layoffs, cancelations of government contracts and awards, and the reduced bilateral trade from tariffs. It is already moving up. The USD, already down 10 % will continue its decline as the free world turns against the US and its currency. Foreclosures, car repos and business failures will all be on the rise, due to inflation, trade wars and job losses. 25 % of buy now pay later purchases are currently for groceries The share of households becoming seriously delinquent on their auto loans and credit cards has already hit 14 yr highs. Credit card balances topped $1.2 trillion, rising 7.3% from the fourth quarter of last year. That is almost $4000 per person of any age. With the pause on student loan repayments ended, many are in dire straights. “The money that has to go to student loan payments now is money that can’t go to paying off credit card debt or building an emergency fund or working toward other financial goals that build a stable foundation,” Matt Schulz, chief credit analyst at LendingTree Student loan delinquencies jumped to 7.74% from 1% following the ending of a pandemic-era pause of reporting past-due loans on credit reports, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s first-quarter Household Debt and Credit Report. Companies not failing will see profits decline or turn to losses. Tourists to and within US , previously a big contributor to GDP will be way down, due to anger at and fear of the US coupled with people not having discretionary income to vacation. Airlines are cancelling fights and entire routes Scientific research will grind to a halt, preventing future innovation in health care and all other industries due to cancellation of research grants, preventing innovation over the next 10 to 20 years Higher education will be dire financial straits, with some colleges and universities going belly up as foreign students flee or are kicked out and research grants disappear. Foreign students pay higher tuition that the Universities need, and spend foreign money in the US. They are not “ taking spots” from our kids, they are creating spots that keep our economy afloat. While unemployment will be high, those put of work will not take the low wage openings of the recently deported since they cannot survive on minimum wage and that work is dangerous and exhausting This year’s college grads are not be able to find work especially in the previously booming programing field and in all the defunded areas of STEM. Our young best and brightest, now saddled with student loans, are joining the ranks of the unemployed. Homelessness, property crime and food insecurity will rise, because basic essentials will have become too expensive and job losses will take their toll Homeowner’s insurance is going up in price due to catastrophic storms from worsening climate change. These issues will cause interest rates to rise, further exacerbating all the above problems The US will get closer to defaulting on debt with foreigners selling off US debt which will cause the AA rating to decline to A or worse.( Defaulting on debt is Trump’s go to move) Home prices will fall but higher rates will depress sales as more property comes onto the market. Rents will fall as valuations fall. Recent buyers will be upside down. Homeowners insurance will rise due to climate change worsened “ natural” disasters. This will drive up condo HOAs Oil prices will rise due to war with Iran, but will not go up as much as it should because of declines in demand worldwide. This will help fuel inflation. We just went to war with Iran. This will likely be worse than the great depression.

InclinationCompass

Honestly, deepseek feels more dialed in for STEM stuff. If you’re asking about physics equations, programming logic or anything super technical, it tends to give more accurate and direct answers. It’s clearly trained on a ton of scientific papers and dev docs, so it handles math and coding concepts really well. That said, chatgpt is still way better for general use and explaining things in a more natural, human way. If you’re trying to actually understand a concept or talk through something step-by-step, it's smoother. DeepSeek can be a bit robotic or overly terse sometimes.

CrustyToeLover

Good fucking luck to anyone in STEM that's entry level or moderately experienced. The job market has been taken out back and kneecapped

After-Imagination-96

Being a server/bartender has been a great way to generate income for a while now - beats most non-STEM jobs I can think of - obviously it's hard/impossible to get to the 500k bracket but you can definitely make over 100k if you work 35+ hours  25k off of Fed taxes is about 6k in additional income for many

BullBearHybrid

Imagine a person with a college degree in STEM fields using AI vs a high-school dropout working at Wendy’s using AI. Who do you think will outperform.

BullBearHybrid

Imagine a person with a college degree in STEM fields using AI vs a Wendy’s high-school dropout using AI. Who do you think will outperform.

ComfortableLeader608

Kanye certified a genius calls on STEM player https://preview.redd.it/mtbccp2lrgbf1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55bd76008f9ae59ff3d3cb970d84fad213f41e38

Spirited_Code_8060

It's played out as we expected so far, and maybe there is a squeeze going on that pushed it back up to $8.41. The borrow rate for STEM shares seems to be very high right now...

Sharp-Direction-6894

Learn a skilled trade and use your analytical mind from STEM training to get your contractor's license and start a business That's what I did.

FawningDeer37

I have an Arts major and a STEM Masters. Is this rare?

Syab_of_Caltrops

This had been a huge meme for months. I highly doubt any significant partion of STEM professionals will go to Europe.