DJIA

GoinValyrianOnDatAss

Now take that quarter in 1925 and invest it in DJIA and reinvest the dividends.

LonelySwinger

Over the last 2 years (November 2024 to November 2026), the top 5 worst single-day percentage drops for the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) are: 1. April 4, 2025: -4.45% (−1,782.98 points) — Part of the major tariff-driven market shock. 2. November 5, 2026: -4.02% (−2,155.95 points) — A massive point plunge fueled by tech, AI, and regulatory anxieties. 3. April 8, 2025: -3.04% (−1,181.51 points) — Continued correction and volatility during the spring 2025 sell-off. 4. December 18, 2024: -2.61% (−1,132.85 points) — Year-end macro adjustments and profit-taking. 5. July 29, 2026: -2.05% (−1,080.07 points) — Mid-summer economic slowdown concerns. Over the last 2 years (November 2024 to November 2026), the top 5 worst single-day percentage drops for the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite Index are: 1. April 3, 2025: -5.97% (−1,050.44 points) — A devastating retail and tech sell-off driven by macro tariff uncertainties. 2. April 4, 2025: -5.82% (−962.82 points) — Severe back-to-back bleed following the tariff shock. 3. November 5, 2026: -5.52% (−1,421.52 points) — An aggressive "AI tech wreck" that wiped out trillions in market value after the U.S. midterm elections sparked regulatory fears for AI data centers. 4. April 10, 2025: -4.31% (−737.66 points) — Extended correction pain during the spring 2025 volatility cycle. 5. June 5, 2026: -4.18% (−1,121.53 points) — High inflation readings and summer economic slowdown fears.

matjoeman

DJIA is not a great metric.

cassabree

DJIA closed 49,910 6 months ago, 51,580 today (+3.3%). SPY 733.83 6 months ago, 740 today (+.9%). 1–3% isn’t huge—1% is less than inflation—but the point being, you shouldn’t have your entire port full send in QQQ.

onelittleworld

The DJIA is still up for the month. Settle the fuck down.

mattmentecky

1896 is when the Dow jones industrial average debuted, I think OP is really saying “worst post midterm day in the existence of the DJIA”

HankScorpio4242

Just to be clear….the DJIA is up compared to one month ago.

PossessionConnect963

Wow, just checked the DJIA and now not a single stock in it is positive.

2plus2_equals_5

DJIA was up 1,600 points yesterday now it’s down 1,373 = +227 I think we will be ok.

aemus001

For real, fucking DJIA

Ok-Blueberry7868

DJIA on fire

JustLurkCarryOn

I didn’t say AI didn’t have further to fall, but DJIA is essentially flat. Rotate you dumbass.

aemus001

DJIA is the weirdest index

Karma-is-inevitable

For the past year as of EOD today per Schwab DJIA. + 9.89% NASDAQ. + 9.29 % S & P + 12.04 % RUSSELL 2000. + 15.07

maomaocat

DJIA futures /YM might take us there...

Extension_School9590

Because my fidelity app is telling me that DJIA is supposed to soar, so.. shouldn’t i buy it? It can’t be that simple?

Extension_School9590

is fidelity saying DJIA is expected to go up a lot? I’m new and don’t really understand

Extension_School9590

do i buy DJIA before it opens?

Eastern-Joke-7537

I am keeping an open mind and might buy more puts in the next few/several weeks. The “system” only cares about the Fed. After they meet next time, maybe stock indexes will fall. On the DJIA I think stocks can go up a bit more after a few more up/down patterns. Followed by a bigger sell off. I think the “tariff panic” lows can be revisited. Mostly based on technicals/chart patterns/vibes although the Hyper-Scrapers DO have a (developing?) debt problem. Lots of IPO (inventory of stocks) are in the pipeline too.

Odd_Bend_7919

Dividend is fine. My bigger concern is a removal from the DJIA

imunfair

> qqq isn't the market Depends on who you're talking to. A lot of times people mean the S&P, but the press loves to cite DJIA because it's a big number, and NDX is cited as the tech market.

Not_Sure_68

I'd post a picture of it, but apparently that's not allowed here. Simply chart QQQ compared to DJIA. ...or simply chart QQQ, set it to weekly bars, and look for when people that bought at the top broke even. The answer is 2017, but it's nowhere near that rosy even because the purchasing power of the US dollar is constantly eroded as more dollars are conjured from thin air. It's unlike the QQQ has reached the 2000 peak today...26 years later if inflation adjusted. Cisco system only reached parity with their 2000 price last year.

Not_Sure_68

Okay... Very happy for your in-laws...really. I like stories of determination and overcoming adversity. ...and why would you watch 40% of your wealth evaporate? Nothing but nothing builds wealth faster than being on the right side of these massive re-allocation events. It's not about "whining" as you put it, it's about making unemotional, logical, rational decisions based on the evidence at hand. The equity market has been splitting in two all year and simply refusing to see it is not going to make it "unhappen". Would it surprise you to learn that the DJIA has outperformed the QQQ by 93% since the 2000 peak? Did you know that from the 2000 peak to 2007 the gap between the DJIA and QQQs was already a staggering 82.65%? QQQs -48.93% DJIA +33.72%. Go look it up yourself if you don't believe me. You see, it's not about "being fine" and "not whining" it's about assessing the situation absent emotion. Recognize opportunity when it presents. If we're at a similar inflection point, and I believe we are, then people that short the financialized manic bubble(XLK), and go long the real economy(XLB, XLI, XLE) will have the potential to build generational wealth.

Worried_Quarter469

The stock market crash of 1987 occurred on **October 19, 1987**, a day known as **Black Monday**. \[[1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987))\] **Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA):** Fell by **508.32 points**, or **22.6%**, in a single trading session Happy anniversary Monday!

Low_Plastic363

SPY is down 0.33%. DJIA up 0.16%. Boomers haven't even looked up from their crossword. Easy up, easy down. Beta stocks are for short term.

Low_Plastic363

Yes, it's more like squeezing a balloon right now. The money isn't leaking out of the system, but it is moving from one place to another. On the 1M, DJIA is up 0.01%. S&P is up 1.82%. SOXX is up 1.67%. CRWV is down 21.6%. NBIS down 14.76%. ORCL -5.32%. MRVL is up 6.34% and CRDO is up 16%. On the whole, data centers are still being built. Chips are still being sold. The panic is over credit and questionable profitability paths.

maomaocat

Surely the DJIA can't keep propping up the market all day, this must go down at some point

Not_Sure_68

I also like to add that I do not believe a big broad market equity sell off is coming. I do believe however that tech is not the place to be...the real economy is. You can see that clearly reflected in the fact that the DJIA is hugely outperforming the nasdaq of late.

pickle9977

My dude, you realize the that the DJIA went from 1940 to 1956 without a single change? And then from 1956 to 1976 without a single change. It wasn’t until the mid-1980s that they started changing them more frequently.

Eastern-Joke-7537

Nothing bad happens until the DJIA breaks below 50,000. That’s the line in the sand. I am beginning to think that Da Big Money Bros can jam this thing higher. Now doubt we get high level consolidations — but the next one could be 16 to 24 months away. Besides… what are we gonna do? Buy real estate? 😂

Not_Sure_68

Meaning you don't think price inflation is a problem, and you also believe the "growth" from the AI boom is sustainable. Everyone always thinks rates won't hurt equities much...and they're wrong each and every single time. It just takes longer than they think it will. Clearly people have convinced themselves at this point that tech is somehow immune to rising bond yields, even though higher rates have already caused a correction in utilities and real estate sectors...and communication doesn't seem all that happy either. Tech will be last, but it will fall the hardest. The best comparison is 2000. Tech was the last to get \*thwapped\*, but then it fell nearly 80%. Look at the indices today...DJIA +.41 and QQQ -.71%. There's a whole lot more ground to make up there. ...and much of the reason rates are up 870% on US 10y paper since 2020 is because of the massive tech borrowing. They're gobbling up so much private equity capital they're strangling the irresponsible government borrowing machine. lol

mrleakybutthole

Crashed the stock market??? SPY was down.42% NASDAQ was down 1.25% DJIA was up .10%

Eastern-Joke-7537

Loved the .23-.75 option spreads for EVERYTHING. Chat bot trading brat bols be like: DJIA 100,000. Chat bot trading brat bers be like: DJIA 5,000. Flip a coin, Monex! 😂

Eastern-Joke-7537

Yeah. It’s kinda strange. Stocks (especially the DJIA) need to make higher lows. And quickly but also take the bearish scenarios (counts) off the board. Good mid-day action yesterday for the bulls. And, for most of today. But they aren’t out of the woods yet. The only 2 things that matter are the tape and the charts. The bullish case would be strengthened for DJIA bulls if that index can get back above 52,300.

Eastern-Joke-7537

Yeah. I am just looking at last week’s low in stocks. Particularly the DJIA. If that holds I have a thesis. If that does NOT hold… then I have a thesis for that, too. 😀

Eastern-Joke-7537

If today’s lows hold (which are still above last week’s lows) then I can get talked into the bullish case for the DJIA. My new DIA call is hedging my far out of the money (Zero Bid) puts.

Eastern-Joke-7537

My puts are too far out price wise. Mostly as a hedge but that’s basically my trades other than trying to time some DIA call buys today — not good so far! Both sides watching the recent lows in the DJIA.

Eastern-Joke-7537

According to the interwebs, the DJIA futures are either up 69 or up 126. What a friggin’ joke! 😂

Eastern-Joke-7537

I am looking at the 52,100 to 52,150 level on the DJIA. If bulls can’t break through that then the bears will take control again. Danger zone for markets over the next several weeks. I mean, you can basically read whatever you want to in the charts — but there’s still a lot of downside potential. Investors will try to find the market with TRUE value. Hint: there isn’t any value. Relatively speaking, it’s ALL junk.

Eastern-Joke-7537

DJIA is like that crappy LEAP outta the money option you buy where it’s like… Bid: 5,000 Ask: 100,000 YOU figure it out! 😂

jwdjr2004

yeah just look at inflation. the effects of trumps first term basically printing money to keep up appearances (DJIA) during covid didnt kick in until trump was running for the second term, at which point he could conveniently blame the other old man.

Inside_End5141

The US stock market is more a measure of inflation than anything else. Since **January 1, 2000**, **gold has dramatically outperformed the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA)** in total percentage return — **roughly +1,800% to +1,900% for gold vs. +350% for the Dow**

Eastern-Joke-7537

If the COVID lows get hit it could be at least 3 waves/phases down. I even think we could see higher highs with those lower lows too. That COVID trade got me. I had a put for March 2020. Took a small profit and tried to get back in but all the bids on DDM (2X DJIA ETF) went to 0. The asks blew out — up 2 or 3X. If we get that low or lower then this top-then-correction could take several months to 2-3 years. October/November could be a low. Or, March. Or a secondary high in March to retest some lows.

Eastern-Joke-7537

Yeah. It’s always about the failed narrative and busted thesis. I think Bers could take over. Cut back through DJIA 50,000 like a hot knife through butter. Maybe 40,000ish would be a downside support level. The charts look too much like famous (infamous?) fall crashes (setups) even though i think it would be a smaller version. From there, should get some more inflating asset markets. Mostly stocks. Junk bonds might not blow out for another 3-5 years. Let’s see if my thesis thesises. 😂

KMPItXHnKKItZ

Pretty good considering that every thing that I use and consume is already in the S&P500 and DJIA lol.

Suspicious_Chart5817

>So Index funds existed when the S&P 90 and S&P 400 initially came out? That's what you're saying? No, I'm saying you're wrong when you asked rhetorically what were indexes' "purpose" and you guessed "indicators of market performance." They weren't necessarily made for that purpose. > The fact that different indexes exist doesn't mean that they were initially created to literally be investment vehicles like they are right now. Maybe not every one, but sorry no that is what the S&P 90 meant. Some indexes were created to direct investment. "Index funds" as in the 1970s product actually represent a rationalization of the vehicle. Before the 1960s, both Wall Street and academics took it for granted that professional stock pickers could consistently beat the market. When Eugene Fama formalized the Efficient Market Hypothesis in 1970 people realized that these indexes weren't just good for stock ideas but could actually be used as the definition of a fund itself. In other words, you have it exactly backwards. S&P's value proposition was that before we took the DJIA and NASDAQ for granted different stock exchanges had actual math flaws and they often had the "wrong" price. >You can LITERALLY go put money into an index matching fund right now. Could you do that when the S&P 90 debuted? No. Of course you couldn't because they weren't conceived of to be things that can drive the market the way they do now. You're thinking about this too small. S&P 90's was literally coming up with their own stock price. Investors needed a scientifically sound economic barometer. What S&P 90 wrote was 'the truth.' They didn't just passively drive the market by injecting some more liquidity, they dictated what the offered price actually was. They had a hot company, and so they published a hot price.

ForwardLoop

|Year|DJIA|S&P 500|Nasdaq Composite| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |2000|\+0.19%|−0.90%|−2.15%| |2001|\+0.48%|−0.06%|−1.92%| |2002|−4.10%|−4.15%|−3.88%| |2003|\+1.14%|\+1.39%|\+1.71%| |2004|\+0.79%|\+0.69%|\+0.76%| |2005|\+1.36%|\+1.26%|\+1.20%| |2006|\+0.04%|\+0.17%|\+0.57%| |2007|\+0.68%|\+1.05%|\+1.30%| |2008|−0.23%|−0.41%|−0.77%| |2009|\+0.59%|\+0.88%|\+0.94%| |2010|−1.03%|−1.15%|−1.11%| |2011|−0.90%|−0.74%|−0.26%| |2012|−0.42%|−0.12%|\+0.26%| |2013|\+0.16%|\+0.42%|\+0.63%| |2014|−0.18%|−0.05%|\+0.39%| |2015|\+2.42%|\+2.51%|\+2.73%| |2016|\+0.25%|\+0.30%|\+0.50%| |2017|−1.07%|−0.76%|−0.93%| |2018|−0.05%|−0.17%|−0.23%| |2019|−1.08%|−0.69%|−1.11%| |2020|−2.25%|−2.78%|−4.11%| |2021|−0.76%|−0.34%|\+0.07%| |2022|−0.55%|−0.41%|−0.74%| |2023|−0.56%|−0.42%|−0.08%| |2024|−1.51%|−2.12%|−3.26%| |2025|−0.55%|−0.69%|−0.82%| |**Bull — % positive**|**42.3% (11/26)**|**34.6% (9/26)**|**46.2% (12/26)**| |**Bear — % negative**|**57.7% (15/26)**|**65.4% (17/26)**|**53.8% (14/26)**|

Eastern-Joke-7537

It’s what I had as a target for DJIA 100,000 a few years ago. I posted it on a message board. Can’t find it now. 😂

Eastern-Joke-7537

For the DJIA?

Pleasant_Pen8744

If you invested $1000 in the DJIA after the crash in October 1929 today you'd have $4.5 million. But if you'd invested before the crash in September 1929 today you'd still have $3 million.

imustbegthequestion

Caturday Sunday. Fuck sounds and fight back. SPY is FUBARrrrred. DJIA IS NEXT. CALLS ON BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY. HOW MUCH CORN DO WE HAVE?

Independent-Use-228

The goal of the firm is to invest and increase and inverse the $DJIA

CollegeSorry5923

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greyenlightenment

DJIA showing retard strength

The_Alan_Greenspan

DJIA leading the way LFG.

Eastern-Joke-7537

Inflation always goes up. I haven’t looked at a chart of the inflation-adjusted DJIA though.

iamcleek

i'm sure you think the President has a knob labelled "DJIA". it's right between the one labelled "price of gas" and the one labelled "price of eggs".

Revfunky

This is my copy pasta from the other day: The next couple of months are a bottom picker’s paradise. This is the sweet spot of the 4 year presidential cycle. The second and third quarters of the midterm year have been the weakest period of the entire 4 year pattern averaging losses over the 2 quarter period of -2.0% for the Dow, -2.5% for the S&P 500 and -6.6% for the NASDAQ. But thankfully, this sets up the Sweet Spot of the cycle where the Dow gains 19.3%, S&P 500 increases 20.2% and NASDAQ jumps 29.4% over the three quarter span from midterm year Q4 to pre-election year Q2. This is the reason we call midterm election years a “Bottom Picker’s Paradise.” From the midterm low to the pre-election year high DJIA gains 46.3% since 1914 and NASDAQ gains a whopping 66.6% since 1974! Should the market begin to falter in Q2 or Q3 of 2026 then be on the lookout for a late Q3 or early Q4 low in the August to October period. Then be prepared for the rally off that low into the Sweet Spot and beyond to new highs.

Revfunky

The next couple of months are a bottom picker’s paradise. This is the sweet spot of the 4 year presidential cycle. The second and third quarters of the midterm year have been the weakest period of the entire 4 year pattern averaging losses over the 2 quarter period of -2.0% for the Dow, -2.5% for the S&P 500 and -6.6% for the NASDAQ. But thankfully, this sets up the Sweet Spot of the cycle where the Dow gains 19.3%, S&P 500 increases 20.2% and NASDAQ jumps 29.4% over the three quarter span from midterm year Q4 to pre-election year Q2. This is the reason we call midterm election years a “Bottom Picker’s Paradise.” From the midterm low to the pre-election year high DJIA gains 46.3% since 1914 and NASDAQ gains a whopping 66.6% since 1974! Should the market begin to falter in Q2 or Q3 of 2026 then be on the lookout for a late Q3 or early Q4 low in the August to October period. Then be prepared for the rally off that low into the Sweet Spot and beyond to new highs.

HeavyArmsJin

DJIA is ripe for a pullback SDOW -3x etf

HeavyArmsJin

DJIA is ripe for a pullback SDOW -3x etf

imustbegthequestion

QQQ takes 12. Y'all are welcome for that one. I hate the $NASDAQ. Makes teasing boring. Now sorting the $DJIA? That takes arbitrage to take down the Imperial Marquis, High-XHancellor of the Global United Nations Vault, His Grace, Lord Jamie Diamond. P.a., anyone have an in at the restaurant? I'll be in NYC soon to meet with IntesaSANPaolo

usa_reddit

The market is a big game based on "greater fool theory" and retail investors are insignificant to the marker (as far as I can tell). Our only use is to feed HFT high frequency trading computers, where our stock is bought and sold 1,000 times in a millisecond each time we make a trade. It is tough to outperform the big ETFs like VOO but with AI and a human brain I now think it is possible. What can AI do? AI can quickly scan the global news and give you potential impact on the markets. It can also scan the market and tell you where money is rotating. If you synthesize all the information you receive into an investing thesis AIs like perplexity can really help and tell you when you are betting against yourself and how to potentially rebalance to hedge on risk. AI can also help you identify "fat pitches" like Microsoft last week and momentum trades where you get in out on the same day. I don't think you need to trade everyday to make big gains, but you need market summaries and news summaries that validate your investing thesis to make sure you thesis is on track. For example, Middle East peace would invalidate an energy thesis. Also, you will find things out like California is working on getting half of it's electrical power from solar and in response to national security threats the FCC has banned all Chinesium invertors (the things that make solar panels connect to the grid). Personally, I want to get into the 20+% annual return club and right now I am beating all three big ETFs but they are hot on my heels. My advice is to figure out your investing strategy so you aren't thrashing and all over the place. Use AI to help you with situational awareness in global events and finance news. Monitor it daily, I shoot for lunchtime. Try to wrap up your trading day by 2-2:30 because the market can often drop quickly at the end of the day, I am assuming it is people taking profits. Help AI identify fat pitches. Don't feel like you have to do something, sometimes the best thing to do is nothing and wait for the opportunity. If you must do something in put in lowball bids and try to catch drops in after hours trading. I haven't moved into options trading yet but it could be on the horizon. Here are the numbers for the BIG ETFs YTD August 2 VOO YTD 9.29% DJIA YTD 8.45% NASDAQ YTD 9.20% If you have any other ideas please let me know. I am looking at setting up OpenBB, but have no idea what to do with all the data or how to filter what is important. I am going to either find a class or have AI tutor me. Best of luck, we are all in the same boat if it makes you feel any better. We all feel the pressure of running out of money in the USA while our government continues to spend like drunken sailors and slash programs and subsidies.

antwon8797

Look at Nasdaq, it always starts with the hyped index. Too much margin trading in the hype. You can look back at any bubble burst and it’s always the same story, bubble sector goes first, people start moving away from hype towards safer staples (pushing DJIA and S&P up a little more), then margin-calls accelerate losses, sharp sell offs then drags everything else down with it. Every bubble is slightly different with sectors, but one thing is almost always a common cause- debt. Regardless of whether it is mortgage bonds, .com, 1929, tulip mania, etc. It always collapses because there isn’t enough real money to compensate for debt losses when hype fuels over leverage. We hit that point a few months ago, and have now exceeded .com level… https://preview.redd.it/fbsb4mlytrgh1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d1d6dfc9c79524b649e641e1d7189bfdaedc3f5

imustbegthequestion

They should go ahead and just list rddt on the DJIA.

tachyonvelocity

Nasdaq -2%, Semis -5%, DJIA almost flat. Same thing tomorrow in the other direction, and every day for the next year.

Cruian

I'm guessing you mean S&P 500? S&P are a company that have many different indexes, not only the 500 (that's the 400, 600, and at least 1 international, but none of these are as popular as the 500). International (both developed and emerging markets) and the US extended market would diversify further within stocks. DOW as in the DJIA (similar to S&P, Dow also has more than 1 index)? Likely already fully included inside S&P 500 (so this would decrease, not increase, diversification).

Opening_Ad5479

WTF are you talking about 90% lol...the 2008 crash was 54% for the DJIA and 57% for the S&P 500 If your portfolio is doing that, you're doing it wrong

pickle9977

lol I’ve worked with real actuaries, ones with real experience that do real risk modeling. You clearly don’t learn, you refer to me both as little and a man neither are things you know. The hallmark of a good actuary is knowing what you know, what you can know and what you can’t know. It’s core to the friggen definition of risk, but here you are, behaving like a nincompoop again. The DJIA has not meaningfully grown since the late 1950s with out changing its membership. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that a return attributed to an index that is calculated over time based on that value of that index, the components of that index are critical to understanding the correctness of the calculated return. Apparently this is still beyond you though, so god speed bag holder, I salute your arrogance and hubris may they serve you well as you cry over how rich you thought you were but never will be. At the end of the day the true measure of an investment is not what it will be worth tomorrow or what it is worth today, it’s when you actually cash it out materialize the returns. Everything else is just paper, prediction and hope. And hope is not a good investment strategy, you would know that if you actually understood ANYTHING about risk. 🫡

Rare-ish_Birb

ya. And the 30 year treasury yield is headed for 5% in anticipation. Puts on regional banks, small caps, large banks...aw hell - any financial institution holding treasuries, and Financials heavy DJIA.

rscott1972

Fundamental rules are broken. In 1994 DJIA across the 30 stocks was a valuation of $3,860 with an annual present value of $108.50 earnings per year but with an implied $321.67 annual earnings allowing for a P/E of 12. 2026 DJIA across the 30 stocks is valued at $52,000 with annual present earnings of $339.41 but implied earnings are $1,646.67 for a P/E of 30. If you subscribe to fundamentals you may understand that in 1994 forward earnings would be three times current earnings 30 years into the future. And it was correct, because in 2026 DJIA did eventually earn the $339.41. But it will never ever reach the implied $1,646.67 earnings and therefore fundamentally the stock market is broken, rules are not in effect. The earnings don't materialize meaning P/E just keeps climbing because 401K momentum keeps buying the lie that earnings will eventually happen and they never will. Math is very simple, earnings times some arbitrary multiple equals price. That arbitrary multiple is a pure guess. Any number higher than 8 is wrong. In a crash, the number goes to 5 or lower. If you are going to buy into it at 30 you should be parted from your resources.

Samjabr

Trump only watches the DOW. 50K is his red-line. If DJIA gets near that, go full tilt into calls. works every time, 60% of the time.

Samjabr

Retarded DJIA keeps adding stocks to their index at the peak

hv876

DJIA is adding GOOG for AI trade and you’re bearish?

Demiu

No, DJIA is

LV426acheron

DJIA is an irrelevant zombie propped up by decades of inertia.

NotMe357

"Microsoft officially joined the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) on November 1, 1999, right near the absolute peak of the dot-com bubble." Now its Google turn?!

YourChildhood5762

Does anyone buy the Dow any more? Seems like the DJIA only exists so that newscasts can say "The Dow was down today..."

JohnnyFartmacher

I don't think I've ever seen DJIA choice in the 401Ks I've been in, and haven't ever heard of anyone ever actually owning a DJIA index fund. It's weird how the Dow is the first-mentioned benchmark of the stock market however it is a bad index that no one actually owns.

tachyonvelocity

DJIA up while Nasdaq kaput, DJIA flat while Nasdaq up/down 2%. Story of the AI boom, and will likely keep happening for the next year. If you can't take VOL, then just buy Dow Jones stocks.

Rare-ish_Birb

DJIA is controlled by financials, GS largest constituent. If it lets go, look out below.

ChollyWheels

Writing this at 8AM (E.S.T.) - US and Iran back to mutual bombing - a dangerous escalation - Hormuz closed So naturally... Stock futures UP (DJIA and S*P both around 0.75%) and petroleum down (below $90)

50yoWhiteGuy

Because the DJIA is up 17% over the last year as of today?? Please stop posting about your portfolio/investing if you're this dumb. Not sorry.

SilentDrapeRunning

Well sure, just like the DJIA isn't going to tell you if your personal financial experience as a middle class American is going well this month. These numbers are tracking a much higher level concept than that. You might not have bought much personally this month besides food, housing, and gas but that's not all the American economy is.

Sufficient_Habit5091

Ok DJIA is not a major market. It doesn't mean anything at all IMHO. But agree Equal Weight S&P is up too and R2K is very meaningful.

tachyonvelocity

2 out of 4 major markets are already green, DJIA, Russell2000

savethechows

Axios reporting concepts of an executive order coming to make it unconstitutional for DJIA to dip below $50,000

RichardStrauss123

When Joe Biden took office the DJIA was at 31,000. When he left it was 44,000.

WickOfDeath

I usually stay away from US tech stocks, becuase they are nowadays volatile like pink sheets and penny stocks ... I dont have a problem with the volatiltiy, but with the erratic market mood. Most of the arguments brought against those investments are just absolutely bullshit. Microsoft up 30% within a month and down 30% within a week... scary? Or just a hickup in a long term trend? That paired with quite high stock valuations, where the price is based on the estimation that turnaround, margin and forecasts are growing forever. Looking at the SP500 and the DOW (DJIA) they do... for 90 years. One could even say why do people buy those stocks although they yield you nothing? Why does a Samsung worker gets a bonus 1000 times higher than someone who holds 50 Samsung shares worth an annual engineers salary ? The dividends are often oriented at the IPO price, they are ridiculous. I am an EU investor and once it happened that I earned TWO whole US dollars in dividends on Palantir, then 15% source tax in the US, then FX fees... I got ONE dollar out. 85 cent of an Euro.

EliteAsFuk

>On Obama's last day of office, the DJIA closed at 19,827.25. The DJIA grew 149% during Obama's presidency. >The S&P 500 surged by approximately 166% to 235% during Barack Obama’s two terms in office (January 2009 to January 2017), depending on whether the measurement is taken from the beginning of his inauguration or from the market's bottom during the Great Recession. >President Bill Clinton had the best stock market performance. The S&P 500 grew 210% during Clinton's two-term presidency. The second best performer was Obama, where during his presidency the S&P 500 grew 189%. > [Biden] The economy grew by at least 2.5% each year, with real gross domestic product growth of 2.8% in 2024. All three major U.S. stock indexes set new records. The S&P 500 climbed 57.8%. https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/101314/where-was-dow-jones-when-obama-took-office.asp https://www.macrotrends.net/2482/sp500-performance-by-president Yeah, idk man. I'm a facts guy, not a feels guy. You can take that shit back to the holler where illiteracy rules.

cowboynude

I have $200k in an IRA with no debt at 32 allocated as follows: 80% VT (Core) 17% ASML (Satellite) 3% cash (Powder) If ASML goes over 2100 I take profit and buy VT. If ASML goes to 1500 for cyclical reasons like capex cooldown I sell VT and buy more ASML. If ASML goes to 1500 for structural reasons like China export bans or quantum competition, I sell all and VT and chill until I find a new monopoly satellite. Alternatives I considered to ASML for my satellite: - LEU/BWXT combo (nuke ren picks and shovels with monopolistic upside, but nuke ren is more speculative than continued ai capex… if i was looking to retire at 60 instead of 40 i’d own more LEU). - ASTS (seems like a clearly better product than global star and starlink, although the fundamentals are a mixed bag) - AMAT/LAM (basically the same chip-chokepoint-play as ASML except at a discount because the moat is not as crazy… all three rely on the same 3 buyers (TSMC, Intel, Samsung) who in turn rely on the Megacap capex. I see AMAT/LAM as cheaper riskier little cousins of ASML) Long story short, 80% VT and chill, 0-20% satellite based on conviction (can be literally anything other than VT, doesn’t have to be a stock, it could be the DJIA or the S&P. Just something to test against VT. Whatever you have conviction on. It doesn’t have to be semiconductor wafer fab equipment or small reactor fuel in 2040. It could be Nike ACG driving hype and returning Nike to prominence. At one point my biggest stock holding was the Uniqlo parent company because I really liked Uniqlo. Almost every stock is priced perfectly. Hence the 80% VT. Remember, investing 100% of your portfolio into something like VT is still not “boring.” It’s boring compared to QQQ or individual stocks. But VT is still roulette compared to bonds and mutual funds.

SidewaysFancyPrance

I saw a 900pt increase in the DJIA today with a news headline that it was due to investors rotating from tech into banks/retail. I have no clue how that explains an increase. That's not a pivot. That's something else.

clubdirthill

Market rotation from QQQ to DJIA

actias_selene

Other than DJIA and Nasdaq Composite(not QQQ), all are float weighted or at least adjusted.

Eastern-Joke-7537

Diversify with different stocks. Buy a few shares of each. Let it right. Too many buy/hold index funds but swing trade stocks. Probably not the way to do it — overall indexes move off behavioral psychology. Individual stocks follow the market. The trend is your friend until it’s not. However, at this time, it appears that EVERYTHING is headed for Asset Hyperinflation. Look at the charts. Look at the fundamentals. Gold and silver are probably worth buying too… at some point… maybe if gold spikes again to new highs then suddenly crashes. You could buy in at that low. Don’t over trade index ETFs but don’t under trade either. Just buy less than you think you need and trade a bit less. But take your signals. If you wanna get better you have to start somewhere. Invest in individual stocks each month. Hyperinflation lifts all boats. The indexes will lead individual stocks but you need the 100X stocks to turbo charge your portfolio. I’ve made all the bad trades already so I don’t care as much. About to start buying/trading. Maybe DDM (3X DJIA). If I see a BIG opportunity to swing trade (or buy puts) I will do that. But options were overpriced when I was trading them a few months ago. Especially SLV and GLD as those metals surged into tops then melted down in bear market sell offs. Look at the ticker, check out the charts. Pick up some index ETFs and track them. Find a comparable market in history (is there one?). Pick up a share or 3 or as many stocks as you think sound interesting. Is it worth buying dividend stocks? Who knows. 😂

therealCatnuts

The stock market has always been an overvalued house of cards. Warren Buffett’s “irrational exuberance” quote was in December 1996. The DJIA was 6277.  

DoinIt4DaShorteez

DJIA Jan 2, 1970: 809.20 DJIA Dec 31, 1979: 838.74

Ok_Cry7572

DJIA, S&P 500 and Russell 2000 up 10 of last 13 years on June’s first trading day

pooterssssssssss

why do they even show the DJIA? The RUT(Russell 2000) is what matters... today the Russell is getting decimated.

pooterssssssssss

Anyone know why DJIA is pumping today?