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FXE Another move is just to buy European ETFs so you get paid in Euros and make money on the conversion. VGK. Also like VXUS
I had FXF for a while which was pegged to the Swiss Franc. But it appreciated very little and the day to day volatility spooked me. If you're looking to park cash and beat Spaxx, some short term bonds are the safest bet. If you're trying to peg currency, FXF or FXE. Or, you know, just buy gold.
I think FXE and a few other FX? pay a small dividend but none of them are near 4%. Otherwise you want an unhedged global bond fund, e.g. BWZ
It isn't complicated. There are etfs for most major currencies. Like FXF, FXE, FXY, FXA
Check out the dollar (DXY) and compare it to the Euro (FXE), Gold (GLD), and crypto (BTE). It's hard facts. You might have wanted to check before you sounded like an idiot.
If you want to hedge against the dollar falling you can buy something like FXE which is just euros. You could buy tips or ibonds if you still trust the government You could buy a "non currency hedged" foreign bond fund, they are not super common but there are a few big one and I don't remember the symbols offhand Or you could do something a bit wacky like 50% gold 50% foreign blend stock but that's a lot riskier in the middle of a bubble. Personally I moved all my bonds and cash exposure into either high yield corporate bonds or money market funds while I wait for the very possible US treasury blowup that seems like it could happen any day now. Should have included some gold lol.
Thanks. Why did you buy options anymore the actual underlying FXE? Also pays a small dividend
I didn't really - we bought FXE and FXF call options, but the time decay (theta) is causing them to drop in value at about the same rate the dollar is dropping, so it's not really a great hedge.
I think intentionally devaluing the dollar holds investors hostage into markets (and out of cash). There is not really many alternatives to being in markets, even if you don't have faith in the economy. I'm mostly divested from US markets, and instead in Developed Market ETFs and Canada (I'm Canadian). I've done better than if I had stayed in VTI. https://imgur.com/muayxah * XIC is Canadian Market ETF * XEF is Developed Markets (non-NA) ETF * DLR is the USD in CADs * FXE is the Euro in USDs
Did you find a solution in the end? I'm in a very similar boat and trying to figure out how to approach this. These are some of the options I considered, but decided against for included reasons 1) buy EURO stocks/ETF -> don't want to get myself into additional taxation 2) set up EU legal entity and invest through this -> same reason as #1 3) buy S&P euro hedged ETF -> none are USA domiciled, causing substantial tax burden The only reasonable options I have come across, and moved some of my USD into are UDN and FXE. Super interested to understand if you found something better
My port hit personal ATH this morning Picked up FXE 109c's yesterday GG
USD - Chinese renminbi/yuan ETF. Bearish on the dollar, bullish in the renminbi/yuan. Like FXE for the euro.
FXE for euro FXF for Swiss Franc FXB for UK pound sterling FXC for the Canadian maple back FXY for Japanese yen
If you can't open a bank account to deposit the EUR. one way if you already have a brokerage account is to probably to use a currency ETF. Invesco has a currency ETF product line called CurrencyShares which you could look at. Something like FXE with dividends reinvested should simulate holding EUR in a USD denominated brokerage account - [https://www.invesco.com/us/financial-products/etfs/product-detail?audienceType=Investor&ticker=FXE](https://www.invesco.com/us/financial-products/etfs/product-detail?audienceType=Investor&ticker=FXE)
Buy calls on FXF and FXE expiring in November/December Literally free money
You could just buy FXE or UDN
yeah FXE, GLD, and BTC also rocketed up after the news cause the USD is going in the trash if rate cuts happen
I think you should convert the money when it's time to pay but if you insist... If you want to hedge. You can use /6e futures or the FXE ETF. Both have options. So if you think USD is going to go down you can buy puts or sell calls on those instruments. In your case shorting one /6E futures that expires around your desired date would do it. Please note that the future will have interest baked into its price. Going long on FXE will tie up capital. So to be clear. It's either you short /6E or long FXE. Or you sell calls in /6E or buy calls in FXE or finally, you buy puts in /6E or short puts in FXE
SGOV is where I have my sidelined money. But if you're worried about the USD then you could do something like FXE, which is Euro denominated debt. This yields less, but if the euro appreciates vs the dollar you could come out ahead.
Honestly I am more confident in my FXE euro ETF up 3% and my UDN bearish dollar ETF continuing to go up nonstop as the dollar devalues, than I am in any of my stocks.
Gold is an inverse USD play, and moreso an "inverse global inflation" play. Dollar loses value, gold goes up relatively and costs more dollars. That said, other nations do not WANT a weak dollar relative to their currency, they want to be cheap so we buy their shit. So like the EU did last week, they printed a shitload of money and devalued the euro from 3% up against the dollar to only 1%. This hurt my FXE and UDN, but it didn't hurt gold. Because gold is globally purchased and global inflation doesn't hurt it. That's the "proper" role of a rare commodity. What it is NOT is a hedge against equities and stocks. The more people start trying to use it like that, the more it moves WITH stocks, for example chart GLD on a YTD chart with SPY. Once that starts happening, and eventually happening with a larger impact than inflation hedging, you're in a commodity bubble, where non-fundamental movement is driving the price, and commodity bubbles collapse fast and vicious.
I'm actually retarded about gold, I had just started investing during the very peak of the last gold bubble, and got burnt lol. I actually still have one of the first stocks I ever bought, SLV Silver ETF from then, and right now it's down 20%. After the last gold bubble popped it was down 70%. So I've got FXE and UDN as my bearish USD plays instead of gold, and one singular put on gold at 300 strike in case the dollar doesn't keep devaluing. I was actually profitable on the put last week but then the dollar dipped and gold shot back up lol
Are we doing cash, IEFA, FXE, what?
UDN is a bearish USD ETF that uses a basket of currency futures against the dollar. Also have FXE for just the Euro, which oddly even pays a dividend lol
Loaded up on some FXE as well.
There are very few options. FXF, FXE, and the family.
Core account: VXUS, VTI, BNDW Fluff: SCHD, SCHY, O, REET, BRK.B, FXE, FXF
FXE, FXF, FXY, GLD, TBT, and UVIX are my insurance plan in case things go tits up with the USD
Suggestions for moving from FXE to a longer term Europe fund? Euro has done well but i want more value for the fees.
Any suggestions for a safe/cheap Europe fund instead of FXE? FXE has been fine for countering the USD decline, but I think I want something with more upside vs fees. Maybe just a cheap total market ETF, but I'm open to other suggestions.
You and I are sharing four holdings. Instead of VXUS, I just do VT to cover my bases, and I don't mess with REITs anymore, but otherwise I'm in that same boat holding FXF, FXE, SCHY, and BNDW. I was holding FXY for a bit there, then realized Japan is probably just going to keep printing money, so they'll probably be one of the few countries sure to decline against us.
I hold the following: * VXUS (ex-US equities passively managed index etf) * BNDW (ex-US bonds passively managed index etf) * REET (ex-US REITS managed index etf, excludes development firms and only includes REITs that hold real estate) * FXE (Synonymous with holding Euros, pays a dividend) * FXF (Synonymous with holding Swiss Francs, no dividend) * SCHY (Schwab international high dividend yield index etf) Out of those, VXUS, BNDW, SCHY are my largest ex-US holdings. The rest represent <2% positions in my portfolio.
The easiest and cost effective is just to buy the FXE etf. Euro currency trust. Expense ratio is .40%. Exchange fees are punitive if you try to hold physical currency.
FXE is up 14% YTD, but barely up over the last 5 and down since it started. Maybe one can pick the best currency with what's currentlyg going on, but I think beyond the short-term (and I do think that inflation protection should be a portion of people's portfolio looking over the next 5+ years), I'd rather something like SDCI or whatever gold etf.
[https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FXE/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FXE/) The USD has lost \~13% of its value this year vs the Euro. US indices are up \~5% this year in nominal dollars.....but down 8% with regards to actual purchasing power.
That is why I gotta roll my eyes every time I see posts here that are seemingly blissfully unaware that a lot of our "ATH" at the moment is actually just dollar destruction. I keep a single share of FXE and FXF just to keep an eye on our exchange rate. Guess what also shot up during this weeks rally? Yep. We're getting fucking cooked out here and dumbasses are celebrating.
First, we're prepping like a MF, stocking up on stuff we need to live on. Good investment. As far as financially: Cash - what about FXE (Euros), FXF (Swiss Francs) - both seem to be doing great as the dollar falls under this regime. VEA for equities (ex-US companies without emerging markets). For bonds, IBND (high quality ex-US corporate bonds non-hedged), WIP (developed ex-US government bonds with inflation indexing, non-hedged)
There must be some people who are worried about it for various reasons, which is fine by me, but you can also trade currency movements with funds like FXE that are long euro and short USD.
I did the same thing. All the administration's rhetoric pointed to reducing US exposure. Increasing isolationism + loss of trust from allies + pressure to increase NATO military spending: invest in European non-US defense spending (EUAD and KDEF) Dollar devaluation: protect uninvested cash with foreign currencies, precious metals, and safe foreign-denominated bonds (FXE, FXF, FXY, GLD, IGOV) My cash alone has outperformed VOO over the past 3 months. If a cult of unchecked loudmouth lunatics hellbent on getting their way tell you their plans: believe them.
I'm up $6k in 3 months. It's kind of a pain to hold Euros 💶 otherwise; I am open to suggestions, but FXE feels easiest, and my thesis is dollar decline.
Yeah, I'm Canadian and have lots of XEF.TO (non-NA developed markets). I just didn't want to convert my USD into CAD, so my (10%) FXE is a temporary position against USD.
FXE made 12-15% since March. And the USD is going to continue to degrade... Not the person you replied to, but if I move out of FXE, it will be to put more into developed global market ETFs.
I've been fleshing out a holding in both FXE and FXF (Swiss Francs).
FXE, the Euro ETF that mimics holding Euros, is the easiest way in for US investors.
By the way calls. FXE calls for sure
Unless you think the dollar will actually collapse and disappear somehow (like 0% chance), I don't bitcoin is more of a hedge than the stock market. It pathetically follows the stock market. You can even notice how the price meanders until the futures market opens, and then it follows. That, and the days of 1000000% gains are gone. Gold/Silver are likely to function as actual hedges. And stuff like FXE if you actually predict the USD will tank against the Euro.
I manage two portfolios for my personal money. One is a 60/40 portfolio but instead of bonds I swing trade currencies using ETFs. You could just hold one if those ETFs (or a combination of them) in a brokerage acct and earn the dividends while they track their designated currency pair. CADUSD is FXC and EURUSD is FXE. There’s also FXB, FXY, FXA, and FXF.
Well, I don't have all the answers, but there's a few things I'm looking for: 1. How do we navigate the end of the 90 day pause? Is the can going to get kicked down the road for all major trading partners? If so, then the "pause" rates are the real ongoing rates, and we should plan around that. I don't like the idea that the threat of the "paused tariffs" is hanging over the head of everyone all the time, but that's what it is. 2. How do our trade relations with Canada and Mexico get resolved? Everyone is focused on China, but Canada and Mexico are our biggest trade partners and the supply chains of our companies are integrated tightly with them. The resolution of an agreement there is crucial. 3. How does the Fed act this year? If there's one thing I agree with Trump on it's that rates are too high right now, and the threat of inflation is lower that some fear. Even if the Fed acts more aggressively than planned, I don't think inflation will take off because.... 4. The job market is worse than anyone wants to admit. Forget unemployment filings, "job openings", payroll numbers... The average consumer doesn't have any money (and therefore can't drive inflation...). Watch things like credit card and mortgage defaults. 5. Look for assets that can thrive in a generally shitty environment. Well run companies do exist. Vice stocks during hard times will thrive (BUD). Fixed income assets can be attractive. If the US policy is to devalue the dollar, look for assets denominated in other currencies (like foreign government debt, FXE, etc). Then the exchange rate gives you a tailwind on otherwise pretty shitty returns.
Yeah, I'm already holding FXF, FXE, and FXY. But this has been a recent thing, I'm concerned about the Fed firing up the money printer for a long, sustained time.
I'm not going to lie, I sold all of my GLD today. Having invested through the first gold bubble, I rode this one until I started seeing reguards using copper as a proxy play, and now that SLV broke out, I'm getting out while the getting is good. It was free money for a good while, but fool me twice.... can't be fooled again. I'm long FXB, FXE, and FXY (brit monie, europoor money, and some asian money probs rice) as my play against the dollar. I think that will capture the devaluation of the dollar against other major currencies just fine, and far safer than yellow rock.
I have just recently been researching this and here is where I am starting to look into. For a pure currency play, currency ETFs like FXE, FXB, FXY, or CEW (multi-currency strategy). For both equity growth and currency exposure, ETFs like VEA, VWO, IEFA, or IEMG. I haven't gotten too far into research on these individually, but that is my plan for this weekend and create a port strategy.
The only euros I own are FXE. I also own a europe stock etf
Ok, I hear that. Core convictions and no panic selling, but I bought FXE at under $100 so I think that’s been fine, I bought gold because it’s going wild and I will admit I do still have a ton of cash investment and haven’t deployed it like I would have because this president is destroying wealth like it grows on tree. No, I don’t trust him. Yeah, I’m scared. So yeah, a nice Canadian bank crossed my mind.
Eh.... So you have a few choices when it comes to currencies. You can go FXB, FXE, FXA, FXC, FXY, etc. Or you can go with the corresponding future, /6B, /6E, /6A, /6C, /6J. The futures options are much more liquid than the ETF equivalent.
I really don’t know. But what about buying : Gold, Euros, like FXE, or other stable foreign currency Unhedged international stocks and bonds An expat bank account somewhere in a foreign currency? Expats know the most convenient ones
I've always held a 50/50 split between US/EX-US equities and bonds, so I feel uniquely positioned for this. I started investing through the dot com bust and the great recession, I've never trusted the US completely because... well look around. I gladly accepted slightly lower returns in exchange for the diversification, and it has paid off well this year. Though lately I have been focusing more on investments that are backed by international currencies (FXF for swiss francs, FXE for euros), or real estate (O for domestic and some international, REET for all international). Anything that can provide either an externalized store of value or something backed primarily by real property.
It’s not something I ever thought I’d have to consider, but here we are. FXF = Swiss Franc FXE = Euro IGOV = a bond fund consisting of non-US Government Intermediate Debt from Developed Countries
Just be mindful of your purchasing power. It might be wise to diversify into other cash equivalents (FXF, FXE, IGOV) so you're a bit hedged against a falling dollar.
Yup. Xfers happen every Friday, investments every Monday. Pretty much the only thing I've done different is adding some extra allocations in ex-US positions (REET, FXF, FXE) with play money.
hi, I'm trying to diversify currencies. I bought some BNDX and FXE. Any other tips? Thanks!
Work for FXE: We elected to exercise our right to not renew the Smart Post contract. It is more accurate to say we lost *one of* the USPS accounts - and it was one that was a money pit. We had the contract for 20 years until USPS started charging us money to make their deliveries last year. UPS picked it up from us when we ditched it last year - they didn’t even last a full year before ditching it.
Maybe some SCHD, VOO, VXUS, and VTSAX @ 20% to for exposure hedging agaist bonds. FXE, Swiss equivalent and GLD @ 10%.
\> Don't overthink it, it you want to hedge then get a mix of FXE, FXF, BWZ, BWX, IGOV and let run until a new administration is in sight Makes sense! Thanks for the list. I don't know what the right moves are, but the traditional "comfort language" (the market always comes back, etc.) seems very out-of-date for a new world which may be post-NATO, post-Ukraine, post-Taiwan, post-Dollar as the reserve currency, or at least the chance of such changes. My joke is the descriptor "paranoid" seems out of date -- there must always be a line that distinguishes rational and irrational fears. But I am reminded of this quote: "There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased that line." (attributed to Oscar Levant, and others).
BWZ is also there, short term bonds unhedged. FXE and FXF do have some yield and it's fairly close so the standard \~2% you can expect on EURO these days. I think it makes sense to hold some diversity to hedge against the USD heavily inflating, especially if you have costs in Euro in the future. Just keep in mind that BWZ, BWX, IGOV will all react differently to for example straight up currency (i.e. FXF, FXE). Bonds and treasuries have their own market and market dynamics, but they DO increase in value if/when more capital pulls out of the USD and US. Don't overthink it, it you want to hedge then get a mix of FXE, FXF, BWZ, BWX, IGOV and let run until a new administration is in sight.
SGOL and FXE is all you need right now. Money is flocking out of the markets to gold and the US dollar is going to continue to tank relative to the Euro.
FXE, FXF, etc., if you don't want to trade forex. However the euro is down 1.5% today versus the dollar so these are probably long term plays.
GLD and FXE (euros) are my choices. Swiss francs, British pounds, also (sigh) bitcoin seem to be additional options.
Although i am still in the market i am holding more cash than usual atm. I put a fair amount of it into FXE, FXF, FXY and FXA to hedge against the dollar.
Seriously stick to traditional investment principles like DCA or learn how to incorporate external market politics into a trading style (not recommended for most). So, "now do I buy back in because the trade war is allegedly cooling down? Buy gold," are the other half of the Trade you made when you pulled out of the market. You choose an exit (could have been a pretty good one depending on when) and you are looking for the other half of the 'trade,' an entry. GLD or currency holding like FXE are also on the table if you like Euro's right now as a hedge. Your not feeling confident on timing a re-entry (common) so fall back towards traditional investment wisdom! If it's below what you sold for start DCA (say a 5th back in) to lock in some profit on what you did. It might not be the bottom, but you are looking to regain exposure to the market it sounds like. So maybe look for a good time to DCA in once a month at a 5th of capital once a month if you feel uncertainty on the re-timing an entry. Afterwards see if you beat the S&P500 or QQQ or something and decide if you trade better than you invest. My recommendation on your situation.
SPY is [up 188% in past 10 yrs even w/ pullback. FXE is up 4%](https://portfolioslab.com/tools/stock-comparison/FXE/SPY) good luck w/ that
What are you trying to say? If you hold FXE your just holding Euro's, so if the USD inflates 10% wrt the Euro you'll see FXE gain that same amount. In USD terms you gained 10%, but in Euro terms you stay flat. The scenario you sketch of SPY roaring back will be due to & accompanied by a lot of USD inflation. It won't be 40% up with only 10% additional inflation wrt Euro. It will be more like inflation being higher than any gains, so not up at all from a foreign currency perspective.
Bye Bye Dollar valuation. FXE 110 5/16 finna print 
Allocating 85% into FXF and FXE concentrates your risk heavily in just two currencies, which can backfire if the dollar rebounds or European economies face unexpected shocks. While hedging against a weakening dollar is sensible, diversification remains key. It’s wise to balance currency exposure with broader asset classes for stability.
The Invesco currency ETFs for several currencies also earn some interest: FXE (Euros), FXA (Australia), FXB (UK), FXC (Canada). The FXF (Francs) and FXY (Yen) do not. The collection of these (UDN) all together does earn some interest.
FXE has a yield of 1.96% Not making an argument for it though. I am looking at ways to hedge against EUR going up significantly against USD because i plan to move there in 5 years.
The bigger issue is both those funds mean you're going entirely into cash. Also consider international equities and bonds, these will give you the currency exposure while still having long-term growth. https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?FXE,FXF,VOO,VXUS,VT,VGK,BND,BNDX&n=2989&O=011000
I listed them! FXF AND FXE
The market has priced in current uncertainty already. FXE is already up 12.35% YTD. So the question is, From here: is the dollar going to get worse, stay the same, or get better? A dramatic shift AFTER the market has already moved is a classic move that will lower returns over time. A small or moderate shift to diversify your holdings might be advisable. Hedging risk tends to reduce your max gains, but also reduce your potential losses. As a US citizen, I have started to make small purchases of FXE (Invesco Euro currency shares) as a hedge against Trump continuing to sabotage the US economy. But I still have faith that he will get reined in and things will turn around, so I wouldn't want to bet the Farm on the dollar continuing to decline from this current level.
So you think bitcoin is a bad idea, but above you said FXE is a good choice? It’s up 4% over the last 5 years lol
There's currency ETFs like FXE but that could really burn you
We have very similar portfolios. FXE might be a good one too for a little more exposure.
True, but not all low risk assets are the same. FXE has produced an effective yield of ZERO. If you’re thinking the risk is stemming from U.S. politics, then move assets away from US but don’t inhibit your growth potential.
I moved quite a bit of my cash funds into FXF, FXE, FXY and FXA. These track the Swiss franc, Euro, Yen and AUD vs USD. If the dollar drops relative to these their value will increase. I was planning on buying some of these currencies directly but this was easier.
FXE Calls printing 
FXE (Euro): +6.47% FXY (Japanese Yen): +6.07% FXF (Swiss Franc): +9.27% FXB (British Pound): +3.57
IAUM, FXE, FXJ, FXF, SGOV. That's my entire portfolio. I'm in preservation mode. I keep thinking I'm making money, but what my portfolio truly reflects is how quickly the value of the dollar is dropping.
A lot of people have been suggesting the Invesco currency ETFs like FXE, FXF etc. They have about six of those ETFs for different currencies. They have one ETF that combines 6 currencies, UDN. These even earn some interest in the foreign currency. The expense ratio fee for UDN is currently waived.
FXE 5/16 110C finna print 
FXE 
But is it ok to buy in USDs or convert my currency? I’m so confused. I bought FXE at 99+ but is that the same as owning Euros? I feel like I have to actually exchange currency and put in foreign bank or am I wrong?
You can easily invest in foreign companies: VXUS, SCHF I also took a recent position in foreign currencies: FXE, FYE
Invesco has a whole bunch of currency ETFs. FXE = euro, FXF = swiss franks. UDN is a mix of six non-US dollar currencies for a one-stop shop.