ICE

moorhound

Been shut down for like a month over ICE funding

ender23

Really wish he sent our elite ICE agents instead

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and dumbest president I have ever seen in American history. During his tenure, the stock market was in chaos and there has been almost no progress since he took office; He was arrogant and boastful, assassinated Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei, attempted to replicate Venezuela's success, and took over Iran within a day, but he was completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East have been destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers have been injured and killed, and he has given orders to launch missiles at will, killing hundreds of innocent elementary school students. It is simply an inhumane massacre that has brought endless pain to countless Iranian and American families, plunging the US once again into a long-term Middle East war; He used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide anger; After he took office, his family used his presidency to speculate on virtual currencies or participate in various businesses, earning billions of dollars. The war minister he nominated used his power to spend billions of dollars on food and beverage, which is a huge waste of taxpayers! In addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case and has remained silent, refusing to answer questions, but in reality, he is trying to divert people's attention through foreign wars. Given how terrible Trump's actions are and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

PutzOnDonleon

Some shit for brains going alla akbar on a bus doesnt crash the market. What Iran is doing right now they been doing for years its just the new thing and the media is hyping it. We've went from ICE to Epstein to Iran... in 3 weeks or so it'll be something else.. ppl will get bored with it and theyll find us something else to keep us engaged

PutzOnDonleon

Same people in here bitching about everything were protesting ICE few weeks ago. Now they dont give a fuck about immigrants and are stans for the IRGC. Insufferable twats

existing-entity

Burgers, also armed ICE agents, also brainwashed

orsomeshitidk

I’m gonna go get some Mexican food and a marg before ICE and 🥭 take what little we have left to enjoy in this country away lol

RealPrinceZuko

Looking at an ICE agent wrong

ai___________

I think we should send ICE to capture the strait of Hormuz

ratedsar

McCain ran on bombing Iran in 2008; imagine if the GOP had really embraced solar and evs since then; like, cash for ICE's... solar for parking lots; It could have been an easy way for bi-partisanship and the most effective congresses, spending on infrastructure. then, if war with Iran still happened... they would hold few cards. unless, the whole thing is just nostalgia for the 70s.

PocaMadre69

Markets should’ve never been up hope this helps. Fuck ICE

CamelAlps

Is there no left in the USA? Dont you guys have a strong opposition fighting against ICE, Venezuela attack, now Iran attack? Nothing? Is just mind blowing

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and dumbest president I have ever seen in American history. During his tenure, the stock market was in chaos and there has been almost no progress since he took office; He was arrogant and boastful, assassinated Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei, attempted to replicate Venezuela's success, and took over Iran within a day, but he was completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East have been destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers have been injured and killed, and he has given orders to launch missiles at will, killing hundreds of innocent elementary school students. It is simply an inhumane massacre that has brought endless pain to countless Iranian and American families, plunging the US once again into a long-term Middle East war; He used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide anger; After he took office, his family used his presidency to speculate on virtual currencies or participate in various businesses, earning billions of dollars. The war minister he nominated used his power to spend billions of dollars on food and beverage, which is a huge waste of taxpayers! In addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case and has remained silent, refusing to answer questions, but in reality, he is trying to divert people's attention through foreign wars. Given how terrible Trump's actions are and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and dumbest president I have ever seen in American history. During his tenure, the stock market was in chaos and there has been almost no progress since he took office; He was arrogant and boastful, assassinated Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei, attempted to replicate Venezuela's success, and took over Iran within a day, but he was completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East have been destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers have been injured and killed, and he has given orders to launch missiles at will, killing hundreds of innocent elementary school students. It is simply an inhumane massacre that has brought endless pain to countless Iranian and American families, plunging the US once again into a long-term Middle East war; He used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide anger; After he took office, his family used his presidency to speculate on virtual currencies or participate in various businesses, earning billions of dollars. The war minister he nominated used his power to spend billions of dollars on food and beverage, which is a huge waste of taxpayers! In addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case and has remained silent, refusing to answer questions, but in reality, he is trying to divert people's attention through foreign wars. Given how terrible Trump's actions are and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and dumbest president I have ever seen in American history. During his tenure, the stock market was in chaos and there has been almost no progress since he took office; He was arrogant and boastful, assassinated Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei, attempted to replicate Venezuela's success, and took over Iran within a day, but he was completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East have been destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers have been injured and killed, and he has given orders to launch missiles at will, killing hundreds of innocent elementary school students. It is simply an inhumane massacre that has brought endless pain to countless Iranian and American families, plunging the US once again into a long-term Middle East war; He used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide anger; After he took office, his family used his presidency to speculate on virtual currencies or participate in various businesses, earning billions of dollars. The war minister he nominated used his power to spend billions of dollars on food and beverage, which is a huge waste of taxpayers! In addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case and has remained silent, refusing to answer questions, but in reality, he is trying to divert people's attention through foreign wars. Given how terrible Trump's actions are and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

BarbellPadawan

A popular uprising in Iran is about as likely as one here against ICE. Might be justified but is completely unrealistic.

giraloco

He should send his ICE thugs to arrest Powell and see what happens to the bond market the next day.

dontmatterdontcare

Theirs was always shit. They had to rely on GM batteries. The Japanese do not make good BEVs at all. What magic they did with ICE cars did not translate over to BEVs.

ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

Sorry I know this sounds wild just coming from a random comment. I'll have to find the studies again, because it was also not at all what I was expecting. I thought they were a good midway point between ICE and EV but apparently not lol.

jellodrop

Completely disagree. These EVs end up so poorly designed. You can’t turn an ICE body into an EV with no other changes. Said no to BMW i4 for this bc who wants an EV wth a hump in the middle back seat plus the range and charging convenience just wasn’t coming anywhere close to what Tesla offers

ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

They are not more environmentally friendly because the emissions of hybrids have been vastly understated, in order to meet federal requirements and sales. Newer studies show they output just as much, and sometimes more than ICE equivalents. Take from that what you will. They do use regenerative braking, but you'll never fully recharge a battery like that unless you are always going downhill more than uphill (eventually not possible haha).

iamreallynotabot

>Literally just pick an ICE model, change nothing except the power train to EV Which would also literally double the price and sell like crap.

ibribe

I was pointing out that the vehicle you are looking for does exist, it is just so niche that it costs $140k. Drop the hybrid requirement and you have plenty of options, EV and ICE.

DarkSideMoon

I don’t know why we don’t have more PHEVs and why Honda is adamant about not making them. I rented an EV for a 160 mile round trip a few months ago. Total pain in the ass. Had to stop to charge three times- twice to make the trip with greater than 10% at the end and once to refill it for the rental company. Even factoring out the rental that’s still an insane amount of charging for what would be about 4.5 gallons of gas in my ICE car. I’ll never go full EV after that, which sucks because 90% of my driving is under 30 miles in the city. PHEV would solve that but I haven’t seen a compelling one yet.

satans_little_axeman

Highly regarded take. > They all feel like they have to come up with this completely new design with zero drag. Yes, because EV's are in fact quite a bit more sensitive to drag than ICE cars, because they don't have the massive inefficiency that ICE does. >Look at GMs old ev1 that looked like a giant raindrop. Because it was using a stone age battery and needed to eke out every possible ounce of efficiency from it. Nobody talks about the electric S10 pickup that shared virtually the entire driveline, and you know why? Because its 16 kWh battery gave it 30 miles of range. Same battery did nearly double that in the EV1 because they engineered it for efficiency rather than a truck bed.

OptimusTron222

We need more power for AI, electric cars do not save anything pollution wise, in fact those are totaled way easier than ICE and the break even pollution is not even reached for many of those

DiceKnight

I'm 100% down for more nuclear power plants to offset carbon emissions and move away from ICE cars from a purely environmental perspective but coupling it to datacenters is kind of a nonstarter because they take about 10 years to build in the west. China has got it down to 6(ish) years because they're a unitary communist state that doesn't have to deal with the same friction forces. Nobody wants to commit ten years of investment and building for data centers. If they could they'd be doing it right now. Never say never but I don't see legislation doing much to change those build times. A lot of that friction is because people don't want anyone building anything near their house.

DiceKnight

I'm 100% down for more nuclear power plants to offset carbon emissions and move away from ICE cars from a purely environmental perspective but coupling it to datacenters is kind of a nonstarter because they take about 10 years to build in the west. China has got it down to 6(ish) years because they're a unitary communist state that doesn't have to deal with the same friction forces. Nobody wants to commit ten years of investment and building for data centers. If they could they'd be doing it right now.

Appropriate-Tea-7276

Does he need authority to deploy armed ICE agents to polling stations in battleground states?

autoeroticassfxation

They can be higher in price than ICE and people will still buy them, because charging up is so much cheaper than gas.

breakingbaud

Imho, worst of both worlds. Deal with ICE archiecture/maintenance with liability of EV. Granted, I've got a lot of advantages with homeownership/home charging and live in probably the best EV charger-saturated part of the states.

Splurch

> If oil is at $250 a barrel, EVs depreciation rate should decrease, Giant ICE vehicles like Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango should depreciate faster. Or am I missing something? The depreciation from battery life is going to happen regardless but what your missing though is that the person you're responding to doesn't seem to understand economics to any degree.

OptimusTron222

No, when there is a fuel shortage like this one, cars tend to not sell. It will be a terrible year for both ICE, Hybrid and even EV cars(no LNG means electricity shortage around the world)

Sryzon

Honda has reliable ICE engines, ranks highly on the American Made Index, and are relatively affordable. They have the potential to sweep the US market, but haven't been very good at playing to their strengths.

bwrca

Literally just pick an ICE model, change nothing except the power train to EV or hybrid. Maybe change the badge to a blue one if you feel fancy. Then profit.

RamBamBooey

If oil is at $250 a barrel, EVs depreciation rate should decrease, Giant ICE vehicles like Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango should depreciate faster. Or am I missing something?

ColdFusionPT

I drive an EV and if I didn't have a way to charge it at home it really wouldn't make sense for me but in the 4 years I had my car the charging infrastructure has been improving and expanding around where I live like crazy and i don't even live in a big metropolitan area. My conspiracy theory about EVs not being pushed as much as ICE cars (in the US at least) is that since there are many states where you cant but a car directly from the brand and need to go through a dealership, which also operates a service center they don't really have much interest in selling them. EV maintenance is dirt cheap. Most of my scheduled maintenance is just to rotate tires ($25) and from time to time change the air filter which would cost at most $150. On a ICE car you need regular oil changes, air and oil filters and they make $$$ on those where they dont on EVs

TwoNine13

You can argue politics like chud but it’s impossible to ignore lack of supporting infrastructure for it or the feasibility of the current technology to support such a fast paced transition from ICE to strict EV. Plus, couldn’t they have designed an EV vehicle that wasn’t inspired by some fantasy dream

MilkyWayObserver

If it’s close in cost to an ICE (maybe higher end trim, since EVs cost more), I think it would do well in the Canadian market as well.

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and most foolish president I have ever seen in American history. During his term, the stock market has been a complete mess, with virtually no progress since he took office; he was arrogant and boastful, launching the assassination of Iranian Khamenei, attempting to replicate Venezuela's success and take over Iran in a day, but he completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East were destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers died, causing endless suffering to countless American families, and the US is once again embroiled in a long-term Middle East war; he used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide outrage; in addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case, which he has remained silent about, refusing to answer questions, yet in reality, he is trying to divert attention with foreign wars. Given how badly Trump has done things and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and most foolish president I have ever seen in American history. During his term, the stock market has been a complete mess, with virtually no progress since he took office; he was arrogant and boastful, launching the assassination of Iranian Khamenei, attempting to replicate Venezuela's success and take over Iran in a day, but he completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East were destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers died, causing endless suffering to countless American families, and the US is once again embroiled in a long-term Middle East war; he used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide outrage; in addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case, which he has remained silent about, refusing to answer questions, yet in reality, he is trying to divert attention with foreign wars. Given how badly Trump has done things and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

Vast-Firefighter-890

The protests were in support of action against the dictatorship. Ask the Iranian women soccer team who signaled for help in Australia as a small recent example. Dude, people wanted civil war in the US over ICE killing 2 US citizens. Iran killed over 30k in a month

FlyingRock

I always thought we were like ICE (no one likes us but we use military might to bully things) and now we're becoming that weird guy from highschool who at reunions clings to them being an athlete in highschool.

JoyLimbPrivateHldgs

There were always rumors Brent was connected to ICE

Apprehensive_Rub3897

Afghanistan was stupid because we told Russia, "hold my beer." Our Iran *excursion* is great because it will get Rapepublicans to support the release of the Epstein Files so they can impeach the orange turd on a conscience vote and save their jobs. Imagine the economy without his tariff bullshit, Minnesota ICE bullshit and war in Iran. If he'd just stuck with the border and maybe Venezuela, he could be golfing his ass off and ignore Epstein.

Ekg887

Also changing tariff policy and levels every other week is important to let companies know you are serious about providing them a clear and stable environment to invest billions over a decade to rebuild US facilities. You should also have ICE harass and arrest the foreign workers who are already here completely legally trying to onshore more manufacturing so as to let them know your policies are capricious and arbitrary. There was no plan for tariffs to bring back manufacturing. Get that through your head. If you look at the tariffs through the lens of a tool for political leverage and maket manipulation then how they have been handled makes perfect sense. If you look at the tariffs as being actual properly applied economic tools to steer the US economy then they have been applied almost completely opposite to that.

zerocool359

More likely they’ll hit Oakland airport and claim the airport in San Francisco is devastated and we must pass DHS funding bill (with no ICE restrictions).

Designer_Age_7365

FBI warns ICE planning to attack California with drones.

feti_wap

DOGE, then Epstein, then ICE, now War, soon midterms will be canceled. 1 year S&P is still up 20%. Not bad. Keep borrowing and buying. I'm building a bunker and buying weapons with profits.

WordsHappenedHere

🥭really is just an 80yo man who’s so bored in his life that he has to create drama all around him to feel normal. Going to be like this at least once per year I guess. First tariff tantrum. Now his embarrassingly stupid lack of foresight in Iran. Don’t forget to sprinkle in social unrest and ICE murders. What will 2027 bring?

im_burning_cookies

Omfg send ICE!!

a-common-username

Odd picking states which oppose Trump’s regime and have been filmed and broadcast worldwide showing images of its people standing up against the US government’s occupation of ICE and military. With many many more locations that would be more convenient geographically as California is the furthest point away from Iran… seems like this would benefit the Trump regime more than Iran… Sounds like prepping for a red flag event.

radialmonster

Similar to they are paying over 20 million - 130 million over value for ICE warehouses. https://reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/comments/1rqr0a8/ice_warehouses_update_10_purchased_10_blocked/

VancouverSky

People cant put "clean energy" in their ICE car or even better, heavy duty commercial vehicles. Y'all need to break that little brain worm.

LongevitySpinach

Thesis: Internal combustion engine sales peaked in 2017, those vehicles are starting to age out of the fleet, so basically fewer ICE engines on the road every year from here to forever. There will be ups and downs, but overall the direction is all but certain. China vehicle sales are over 60% EV, Europe just passed 50%. Much of the developing world are buying cheap chinese EV's. The world will be at 50% EV market share soon, and current oil price spike will only accelerate that. Trucking is now electrifying. The real violence is what happens when financial markets really start to price in the stranded assets of oil producers that will never be produced. Yes, I know jet fuel, plastics and a thousand non-vehicular uses for oil exist. I'm just saying that global demand will decline, slowly at first and then faster. Strategy: I'm still working on the trade. Open to ideas. Recently started a tiny position in DRIP, might just DCA into more of that. Another approach would be Poor Man's Covered Put (diagonal buy long LEAPS put and sell weekly or monthly short puts to reduce cost basis of the long put. Ticker selection further complicated by the fact I am bullish on natgas due to insatiable electricity demand from datacenters and EV's. I like to have some short exposure generally speaking to hedge my overall long portfolio. Oil will go down if we have an economic collapse - which could ironically be caused by oil being high.

Amazazing8Sauce

Lead by Barron Trump and ICE plz, send them to the front line to fight daddy trump war!

NotObviouslyARobot

I give it one or two battery generations, and the ICE is dead

SideBet2020

Feel free to send ICE and MAGA to the front line. You guys asked for this.

pink_ego_box

That's what ICE wants to steal from you. That and big booty latinas

version-two

I’m with you. You can’t taco out of killing the fucking Iranian messiah. This is just getting started. Wait until there are some unalived Americans on the news (aside from the ones that ICE killed).

gumbril

Dont they already have all the ICE agents doing a lot of nothing except for getting beat up by teenage girls.

Designated_Lurker_32

I wouldn't say Americans are extremists. At least not most of them. It's just that your average American is *so incredibly ignorant* that they're genuinely under the impression Trump is moderate republican, and everything's fine under his administration. Because everything's always fine when there's a conservative in power. That makes them the perfect useful idiots for the actual extremists. Like, I know this from experience. I talk to anyone outside the Internet, and I hear shit like: >Who's Epstein? >What? Trump wouldn't say that. He must have been joking. He's a funny guy. >What are you talking about? The price of groceries has gone down. I mean, I don't remember the old prices, so I don't know for sure, but it *feels* like it's gone down. >But the DOW is over 50k. That means the economy must be doing good, right? >I don't know anything about no ICE shootings. >The government wouldn't do that. >You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. >There is no war in Iran.

Asclepius-Rod

ICE agents are way way too dumb to be effective soldiers, and that’s saying something

anewidentity

It’s possible he was forced. IRGC is the unofficial police/military, kinda like ICE in terms of government structure. They have power over all other branches and forces including the army, and they’re armed to the teeth.

watt033

[in 2024 a survey found that nearly half of U.S EV Owners were very likely to switch back to ICE vehicles for their next vehicles. Globally the number was 29%.](https://executivedigest.sapo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Mobility-Consumer-Pulse-2024_Overview.pdf) No matter how you cut it those are pretty bad retention rates for what's supposed to be the future of driving. Anecdotally a friend of mine was on Facebook a couple of weeks ago trying to buy a cheap gas car, because her and her wife couldn't afford to charge their two electric vehicles anymore. Granted $100 a barrel gas might change that calculation in the short term.

platinumarks

Just DHS, other than ICE, which is funded long-term

-LabApprehensive-

Yes Kamala clearly would have told ICE they had free reign to bash heads and no need for warrants . She clearly would have got 200 billion dollars allocated and made it the largest law enforcement agency in the country. I bet she would have demanded they go about completely masked too right? No thats an insane take both sides are nowhere near the same and if you believe they are please re-examine where you are getting your info.

RevoltingBlobb

In fair elections yes, but they’ll keep trying to pull some shenanigans. New ID requirements, ICE agents at polling places, you name it.

Technical-Emu-32

This is Kristi Noems fault. ICE Barbie getting revenge

relianceschool

>To be fair, the average American consumer does not like electric cars either. A lot of that is political, not necessarily rational. Pew Research finds [about 50% of Democrats would consider buying an EV](https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2025/06/05/americans-interest-in-purchasing-electric-and-hybrid-vehicles/), compared to 20% of Republicans. I'm sure there's some urban/rural divide there as well, but [given that 98% of car trips are under 50 miles](https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1230-march-21-2022-more-half-all-daily-trips-were-less-three-miles-2021), range really isn't a limiting factor. (You can just rent an ICE for your biannual road trip.)

NotObviouslyARobot

Your point isn't salient, or correct. EV owners are insulated from the effects of immediately higher oil prices. ICE owners are not. ICE owners, particularly in flyover country & low cost of living areas, are much more vulnerable than an urbanite with an EV. 38% percent of the US's daily oil use is for transport. 91% of that is personal vehicles. $5/gallon doesn't matter for an electric car, no matter how much you want to tell yourself that. Also, it means China is going to do way better at surviving the fallout

Icommandyou

ICE will deport if you sell

AggravatingArt3858

ICE is brown people

tinydisaster

That’s what the 38 billion for ICE warehouses was for.

Graddler

Lol, the poor fucks that still drive ICE-engines in Germany pay about 7.50€ per gallon for standard gasoline and 7.85€ per gallon diesel. That's 8.7 and 9.10 Dollars respectively.

adjust_the_sails

So you sold your ICE car and bout a EV, right?… right?

TheBobbestB0B

A lot of people know and saw this coming. When the top government officials allow him to do whatever he wants, what’s the average citizen going to be able to do? Especially with his cronies in ICE disappearing people who mention him in a bad light. Every single person who voted for trump is the cause of this problem. There is likely no good way out, even if he’s dead he put so many loyal idiots in charge, unless someone in the government stops him, we are all doomed to watch this play out. No one wants this. No one can stop it. This is what happens when you let billionaires make decisions for your country (if you think this is only trump you are missing a lot)

Lanky-Top-1861

No, not really. On my last trip, I drove 700 km. My average speed was 150 km/h, and the trip took 4 hours and 40 minutes, including a 5-minute refueling stop. I believe a Tesla, at 150 km/h and in low temperatures (-5 to 0°C), would have a maximum range of around 150 km. That would mean stopping at least four times. And keep in mind that you usually only charge to 80% because of diminishing returns, so in practice you are working with only about 80% of the full-charge range. Nothing beats an ICE car on long trips except flying. In my case, there was no flight between the two locations, otherwise I would have flown. According to TeslaMate, my average speeds in a Tesla are below 100 km/h when stops are included. That is far behind an ICE car. https://preview.redd.it/pd4do13x1sng1.png?width=810&format=png&auto=webp&s=79ec41acf1d9126ab1f6d874256273f75513db10 And to average 150 km/h, you have to spend a lot of time driving significantly faster than 150 km/h. In a Tesla, first, the cruise control is not really suited for that, and second, the battery drains far too quickly. Like I said, it is an excellent daily driver with lots of advantages, but a very frustrating companion on long trips.

mean11while

My solar production almost covers my annual electricity usage. But even if it didn't, I'm starting in a better place because the cost per mile for my F150 is lower than it would be for an ICE F150. I get just over 2 miles per kWh, on average. Electricity is about 16 cents per kWh, so I can travel about 12.5 miles per dollar. Compare that to a regular F150, which gets \~20 mpg. If fuel is $3/gallon, that would be less than 7 miles per dollar. Both EVs and solar panels are expensive up front but much cheaper in the long run.

TequieroVerde

I am going to try to get in shape by walking and evading the ICE.

FlyingBishop

The phones are a problem and the cars too. This is literally how ICE is targeting people to abduct them.

Former-Tonight-7320

The libs are literally running know criminal illegals out the BACKDOOR or courthouses to let them free while ICE waits to peacefully take custody of them out front. This happened in WI. The sanctuary cities won't peacefully remove illegals. There is no way we get over 14 million people here illegally unless done on purpose. The number skyrocketed under sleepy joe.

Former-Tonight-7320

2 people have died when they were essentially attacking ICE. The libs let in literally millions of illegals on purpose. It's not easy to get them out (this is the libs plan). Then the libs cry when ice has to remove illegal the hard way.

Merranza

To be honest, Tesla is at least trying to create novelties by diversifying. You can like it or hate it, but they are hard on R&D and might actual create a real useful niche pattern for AI. Oh and also, people that were raging and imploding at electric vehicles a couple months of ago and cried until the "we need to go back to ICE vehicle because electric sucks and Elon is the worst PoS ever" are probably enjoying their gas price right now. I for sure become a little emotional everytime I drive by a gas station in my EV.

Southern_Ad4946

Likely related to ICE?

loftwyr

With 100k/year and 50k signing bonus, they should send ICE to Iran.

hpotul

How many did ICE deport last month?

tombrady011235

They fired the last head of ICE and the new guy kind of peeled things back

perceptive_AI

News cycle is not covering ICE anymore

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and most foolish president I have ever seen in American history. During his term, the stock market has been a complete mess, with virtually no progress since he took office; he was arrogant and boastful, launching the assassination of Iranian Khamenei, attempting to replicate Venezuela's success and take over Iran in a day, but he completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East were destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers died, causing endless suffering to countless American families, and the US is once again embroiled in a long-term Middle East war; he used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide outrage; in addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case, which he has remained silent about, refusing to answer questions, yet in reality, he is trying to divert attention with foreign wars. Given how badly Trump has done things and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

tinydisaster

Imagine being 18-25, voting for mango, then it turns out the draft is activated and ICE kidnaps you after work, trains you at an abandoned Amazon warehouse and puts a gun in your hand to go die in a desert. And we can’t stop him because the republicans wouldn’t vote in a war powers act.

Low_Plastic363

If you realize that our government currently operates like WWE, it all makes sense. We don't know why we're in Iran yet because they're still writing the storylines. The DOGE storyline worked for a while. The Canada one was good for a time, and got us a nice Four Nations tourney. The Greenland one has been alright. Nobody really bought into the Venezuela bit. The ICE in Minnesota one got a pretty good run. You don't know what's going to happen because they don't know what's going to happen.

NlNJANEER

Provocative lol. The ICE policies are fine, but I’m not a fan of their execution. Voter ID is cool too. What’re the EPA fees? Is this rolling back the credits/fines?

sleepyguy007

some of the tariffs, most of the ICE stuff seems fine, voter ID if it ever happens. not renewing ACA, nothing really too crazy here.

TheRootOfMostEvil

It’s bundled with home and another car. I didn’t see a difference in price from ICE to EV

Gramma_Hattie

ICE erased their history

____-__________-____

Yes, the economy got destroyed and ICE is shooting people in the streets and the administration is ignoring the judiciary and wants to steal the midterms and Trump is literally selling pardons to international drug dealers and we're saber-rattling against Greenland and Canada while giving lip service to Putin and the AfD. **BUT** the price of eggs is down, so Both Sides Bad or something

Whiterabbit--

I don't think it's AI. I wonder how much of it was related to ICE activities.

bretttwarwick

In my industry it's homes not being built because people aren't showing up to work because they are afraid of ICE raids.

dewioffendu

Hence… I’m surrounded by ignorant fucktards! Even my wife has been sucked into this line of bullshit. It’s crazy being married to someone who works at a pretty high level in healthcare and is also surrounded and influenced by people that support ICE and this regime. We live in a blue state and large city in the Midwest but it seems like most people in our tax bracket support this bullshit because we haven’t been affected yet.