ICE

Designated_Lurker_32

I wouldn't say Americans are extremists. At least not most of them. It's just that your average American is *so incredibly ignorant* that they're genuinely under the impression Trump is moderate republican, and everything's fine under his administration. Because everything's always fine when there's a conservative in power. That makes them the perfect useful idiots for the actual extremists. Like, I know this from experience. I talk to anyone outside the Internet, and I hear shit like: >Who's Epstein? >What? Trump wouldn't say that. He must have been joking. He's a funny guy. >What are you talking about? The price of groceries has gone down. I mean, I don't remember the old prices, so I don't know for sure, but it *feels* like it's gone down. >But the DOW is over 50k. That means the economy must be doing good, right? >I don't know anything about no ICE shootings. >The government wouldn't do that. >You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. >There is no war in Iran.

Asclepius-Rod

ICE agents are way way too dumb to be effective soldiers, and that’s saying something

anewidentity

It’s possible he was forced. IRGC is the unofficial police/military, kinda like ICE in terms of government structure. They have power over all other branches and forces including the army, and they’re armed to the teeth.

watt033

[in 2024 a survey found that nearly half of U.S EV Owners were very likely to switch back to ICE vehicles for their next vehicles. Globally the number was 29%.](https://executivedigest.sapo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Mobility-Consumer-Pulse-2024_Overview.pdf) No matter how you cut it those are pretty bad retention rates for what's supposed to be the future of driving. Anecdotally a friend of mine was on Facebook a couple of weeks ago trying to buy a cheap gas car, because her and her wife couldn't afford to charge their two electric vehicles anymore. Granted $100 a barrel gas might change that calculation in the short term.

platinumarks

Just DHS, other than ICE, which is funded long-term

-LabApprehensive-

Yes Kamala clearly would have told ICE they had free reign to bash heads and no need for warrants . She clearly would have got 200 billion dollars allocated and made it the largest law enforcement agency in the country. I bet she would have demanded they go about completely masked too right? No thats an insane take both sides are nowhere near the same and if you believe they are please re-examine where you are getting your info.

RevoltingBlobb

In fair elections yes, but they’ll keep trying to pull some shenanigans. New ID requirements, ICE agents at polling places, you name it.

Technical-Emu-32

This is Kristi Noems fault. ICE Barbie getting revenge

relianceschool

>To be fair, the average American consumer does not like electric cars either. A lot of that is political, not necessarily rational. Pew Research finds [about 50% of Democrats would consider buying an EV](https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2025/06/05/americans-interest-in-purchasing-electric-and-hybrid-vehicles/), compared to 20% of Republicans. I'm sure there's some urban/rural divide there as well, but [given that 98% of car trips are under 50 miles](https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1230-march-21-2022-more-half-all-daily-trips-were-less-three-miles-2021), range really isn't a limiting factor. (You can just rent an ICE for your biannual road trip.)

NotObviouslyARobot

Your point isn't salient, or correct. EV owners are insulated from the effects of immediately higher oil prices. ICE owners are not. ICE owners, particularly in flyover country & low cost of living areas, are much more vulnerable than an urbanite with an EV. 38% percent of the US's daily oil use is for transport. 91% of that is personal vehicles. $5/gallon doesn't matter for an electric car, no matter how much you want to tell yourself that. Also, it means China is going to do way better at surviving the fallout

Icommandyou

ICE will deport if you sell

AggravatingArt3858

ICE is brown people

tinydisaster

That’s what the 38 billion for ICE warehouses was for.

Graddler

Lol, the poor fucks that still drive ICE-engines in Germany pay about 7.50€ per gallon for standard gasoline and 7.85€ per gallon diesel. That's 8.7 and 9.10 Dollars respectively.

adjust_the_sails

So you sold your ICE car and bout a EV, right?… right?

TheBobbestB0B

A lot of people know and saw this coming. When the top government officials allow him to do whatever he wants, what’s the average citizen going to be able to do? Especially with his cronies in ICE disappearing people who mention him in a bad light. Every single person who voted for trump is the cause of this problem. There is likely no good way out, even if he’s dead he put so many loyal idiots in charge, unless someone in the government stops him, we are all doomed to watch this play out. No one wants this. No one can stop it. This is what happens when you let billionaires make decisions for your country (if you think this is only trump you are missing a lot)

Lanky-Top-1861

No, not really. On my last trip, I drove 700 km. My average speed was 150 km/h, and the trip took 4 hours and 40 minutes, including a 5-minute refueling stop. I believe a Tesla, at 150 km/h and in low temperatures (-5 to 0°C), would have a maximum range of around 150 km. That would mean stopping at least four times. And keep in mind that you usually only charge to 80% because of diminishing returns, so in practice you are working with only about 80% of the full-charge range. Nothing beats an ICE car on long trips except flying. In my case, there was no flight between the two locations, otherwise I would have flown. According to TeslaMate, my average speeds in a Tesla are below 100 km/h when stops are included. That is far behind an ICE car. https://preview.redd.it/pd4do13x1sng1.png?width=810&format=png&auto=webp&s=79ec41acf1d9126ab1f6d874256273f75513db10 And to average 150 km/h, you have to spend a lot of time driving significantly faster than 150 km/h. In a Tesla, first, the cruise control is not really suited for that, and second, the battery drains far too quickly. Like I said, it is an excellent daily driver with lots of advantages, but a very frustrating companion on long trips.

mean11while

My solar production almost covers my annual electricity usage. But even if it didn't, I'm starting in a better place because the cost per mile for my F150 is lower than it would be for an ICE F150. I get just over 2 miles per kWh, on average. Electricity is about 16 cents per kWh, so I can travel about 12.5 miles per dollar. Compare that to a regular F150, which gets \~20 mpg. If fuel is $3/gallon, that would be less than 7 miles per dollar. Both EVs and solar panels are expensive up front but much cheaper in the long run.

TequieroVerde

I am going to try to get in shape by walking and evading the ICE.

FlyingBishop

The phones are a problem and the cars too. This is literally how ICE is targeting people to abduct them.

Former-Tonight-7320

The libs are literally running know criminal illegals out the BACKDOOR or courthouses to let them free while ICE waits to peacefully take custody of them out front. This happened in WI. The sanctuary cities won't peacefully remove illegals. There is no way we get over 14 million people here illegally unless done on purpose. The number skyrocketed under sleepy joe.

Former-Tonight-7320

2 people have died when they were essentially attacking ICE. The libs let in literally millions of illegals on purpose. It's not easy to get them out (this is the libs plan). Then the libs cry when ice has to remove illegal the hard way.

Merranza

To be honest, Tesla is at least trying to create novelties by diversifying. You can like it or hate it, but they are hard on R&D and might actual create a real useful niche pattern for AI. Oh and also, people that were raging and imploding at electric vehicles a couple months of ago and cried until the "we need to go back to ICE vehicle because electric sucks and Elon is the worst PoS ever" are probably enjoying their gas price right now. I for sure become a little emotional everytime I drive by a gas station in my EV.

Southern_Ad4946

Likely related to ICE?

loftwyr

With 100k/year and 50k signing bonus, they should send ICE to Iran.

hpotul

How many did ICE deport last month?

tombrady011235

They fired the last head of ICE and the new guy kind of peeled things back

perceptive_AI

News cycle is not covering ICE anymore

Ok-Shift6132

Trump is the worst, most incompetent, and most foolish president I have ever seen in American history. During his term, the stock market has been a complete mess, with virtually no progress since he took office; he was arrogant and boastful, launching the assassination of Iranian Khamenei, attempting to replicate Venezuela's success and take over Iran in a day, but he completely miscalculated. Dozens of US military bases in the Middle East were destroyed, hundreds of American soldiers died, causing endless suffering to countless American families, and the US is once again embroiled in a long-term Middle East war; he used ICE to shoot and kill two law-abiding American citizens, sparking nationwide outrage; in addition, he is deeply involved in the Epstein case, which he has remained silent about, refusing to answer questions, yet in reality, he is trying to divert attention with foreign wars. Given how badly Trump has done things and how incompetent he is, he has absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming midterm elections!

tinydisaster

Imagine being 18-25, voting for mango, then it turns out the draft is activated and ICE kidnaps you after work, trains you at an abandoned Amazon warehouse and puts a gun in your hand to go die in a desert. And we can’t stop him because the republicans wouldn’t vote in a war powers act.

Low_Plastic363

If you realize that our government currently operates like WWE, it all makes sense. We don't know why we're in Iran yet because they're still writing the storylines. The DOGE storyline worked for a while. The Canada one was good for a time, and got us a nice Four Nations tourney. The Greenland one has been alright. Nobody really bought into the Venezuela bit. The ICE in Minnesota one got a pretty good run. You don't know what's going to happen because they don't know what's going to happen.

NlNJANEER

Provocative lol. The ICE policies are fine, but I’m not a fan of their execution. Voter ID is cool too. What’re the EPA fees? Is this rolling back the credits/fines?

sleepyguy007

some of the tariffs, most of the ICE stuff seems fine, voter ID if it ever happens. not renewing ACA, nothing really too crazy here.

TheRootOfMostEvil

It’s bundled with home and another car. I didn’t see a difference in price from ICE to EV

Gramma_Hattie

ICE erased their history

____-__________-____

Yes, the economy got destroyed and ICE is shooting people in the streets and the administration is ignoring the judiciary and wants to steal the midterms and Trump is literally selling pardons to international drug dealers and we're saber-rattling against Greenland and Canada while giving lip service to Putin and the AfD. **BUT** the price of eggs is down, so Both Sides Bad or something

Whiterabbit--

I don't think it's AI. I wonder how much of it was related to ICE activities.

bretttwarwick

In my industry it's homes not being built because people aren't showing up to work because they are afraid of ICE raids.

dewioffendu

Hence… I’m surrounded by ignorant fucktards! Even my wife has been sucked into this line of bullshit. It’s crazy being married to someone who works at a pretty high level in healthcare and is also surrounded and influenced by people that support ICE and this regime. We live in a blue state and large city in the Midwest but it seems like most people in our tax bracket support this bullshit because we haven’t been affected yet.

DaLurker87

Mother needs to start blaming herself and not ICE. She voted for the it after all.

FunFunFun8

I couldn’t imagine voting for Trump and then having ICE kill my kid

dubblies

Just eat liver and join ICE or the military youll be fineeee

orsomeshitidk

Is there an ICE sub we can contract to deport them from the thread

RandomNobodyEU

Join ICE

tinydisaster

Selective Service is still a law. Males aged 18-26 can be conscripted. They don’t have a choice. They used the national guard in the Vietnam war to get people. Unpopular sure, but they have their Gestapo ICE thugs and surveillance state to kidnap people when they are at their grocery store or leaving work or whatever. That’s what all that 38 billion is probably really going to for concentration camps all over the US. That’s why mango is called bone spurs. He bribed a doctor to fake a medical report that said he was medically unfit for duty.

McKoijion

This week, he somehow made friends with Trump, convinced him to release a girl from ICE custody, and got money to build more housing. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5759473-mayor-mamdani-trump-relationship/

ChairmanMeow1986

\*Actual specific advice at the bottom on what I would do, but read through this first please. You just need set a buy to close full stop. Listen to DonkStonx and stop worrying about decreasing your 'current cash level,' as it really doesn't seem like you know what you are doing. Selling deep OTM naked options might seem less risky than buying 0dte's, but this is what blows up accounts and get's you margin called if you don't know what you are doing. A. I get your impulse to not loss money and the risk might seem low (and really probably is) if you are just looking at the DTE's and Strikes. You could do nothing and likely walk away (possibly a bit psychologically scared) with the premiums in your pockets. That's scenario A. The problem is your risk/reward, especially under these macro conditions (I'm not even particularly bearish); we are 6-days into a war in the middle-east, there's tariffs uncertainty, jobs report tomorrow, VIX is elevated (ranging freely above 20), there's the funding fight for DHS on ICE reform, and Republican senator Tom Tillis on the Senate Banking committee has vowed to block any nomination to the Fed board until the investigation of Powell is dropped. B. I'm taking your cash level (position), purchasing power (BP-buying power), and your explained of positions I'm going to assume a portfolio that is about 100k (give or take 15%) in cash/equities. So the real risk to you that I see (specifically because you are posting this here) is that SPY retreats 3-5% suddenly or over the next week and you close out all your positions in a panic only to watch SPY bounce back over the next month. That often leads to revenge trading and over trading as you try to 'make your money back.' You have to (you needed it, your family was depending on you, you we're saving for a house, it's your retirement!-how could this happen, it didn't if I fix it). If you loss money it's gone, you know have a different amount of money and you have to decide how you are moving forward. C. The real risk and probably why you are getting edgy, especially with those 3/16 one if you sold it recently. How a 15% would effect you margin requirements and pose a danger to your portfolio. If it did before 3/16... well hat is how margin calls happen even when puts are still OTM. If SPY dropped 15% and VIX jumped to 35–40 overnight, you'd probably be nearing a 25k loss if you'd be facing forced liquidation of all open option positions and forced selling of equities (likely at the worst possible time) if you couldn't deposit margin requirements in the brokerage. Realistically how this type of thing looks to people; the market drops 3% tmrw than 3% Monday, you can't believe it the Market is wrong, you're not selling now. Than it's down 9% over night before 3/16. Doubt it will happen, but this is the risk you chose to manage. \------------ \*Specific advice (still think you should close it all out tmrw as I do not think you should be trading options): 1. At least close out those 3/16 ones immediately, that is putting undue stress (risk) on you're entire portfolio due to scenario C. Risk remains, but with the other contracts (DTE/Strikes) you are in a much better spot. If you didn't sell the other's perfectly in Nov/Dec you probably got shit premium on risk honestly, so I'd just be inclined to close everything out as soon as possible. I might give the longer contracts time if recover from an extreme dip, but I'd likely just sell the both if SPY dipped 5% and just accept I might have bought at the top. Again, really I'd say just close it all out as soon as you can. 2. I don't recommend it for these trades, but there could be trades when it made sense to convert them to defined risk bull put spreads by buying at the same DTE with a lower strike to your sells. Does not make sense here unless you just want to cap risk and to exit more favorably over time. 3. I don't know the exact details, but I'd probably just call all contracts open a failed trade and close it all out if I found myself here though. I'd accept I traded poorly and lost money, than move on under the reality that essential reality.

GioTheDog420

What lol I don’t like ICE at all but what do they have to do with this at all? Straw man.

EssentialWorkerOnO

Not anymore. ICE or the police will assault or murder you for exercising your rights.

WoolooOfWallStreet

You can do that in the US too, New York Stock Exchange is owned by a company called Intercontinental Exchange or ICE … oh that’s an unfortunate acronym and ticker There’s also Nasdaq

Straight-Simple7705

You mean like how the US economy is diversified as well… wars, prostitution, rape, Epstein island, ICE, or giving Trump another billion. Etc

Straight-Simple7705

Just google ICE camps

Pickle4UrThoughts

Noems was horrible. This is going to be a whole new definition of horrible. You think ICE was scary before?

FourteenthCylon

Due to the ongoing ___________ crisis, ICE agents will be monitoring elections to ensure that voters are safe from election fraud as long as they vote correctly.

Hermans_Head2

Hopefully he'll try to ratchet down the tempo and atmosphere of the ICE raids going forward.

I_Am_Robotic

I hope you’re right. But a MAGA follower bought Dominion. Yeah the company that runs the voting machines. And I hope we don’t see ICE at voting booths.

StrangeInsanity

I hear ICE Barbie got fired?

habfranco

We need to start keeping track: Firing ICE Barbie is a distraction for Iran war, which is a distraction from Epstein files. What next?

Get_dat_money

Rumor has it, 🥭 to put ICE friendly, frosty the snow man, as head of DHS

SubstantialPlenty301

Fuck yeah, good for Newsom. That $1 more in 2030 won't matter to the 25%+ of California's who sold their ICE cars for EVs.

McKoijion

It's not just Trump and Clinton because of the Epstein files. Over 500 of the 535 sitting members of Congress have taken money from the Zionist lobby. The Democrats always vote against war when it's a simple majority and their votes aren't needed. But when exactly 10 Senators were needed to fund ICE and the IDF, Chuck Schumer delivered them and the next day told Bret Stephens that his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel.” Doesn't seem like he did a good job because nearly every American voter on the right and left despises Israel now.

KneeDeepInTheDead

he works for ICE now

LURKER21D

they're definitely up to something with all the cameras everywhere. Data mining identities/personal info/biometrics. Those fuking cameras that ding at you to make you look piss me off very much. I gotta pull my hat down low and maybe mask whenever i have to go in there, it's creepy as fuck. apparently they're logging vehicles/plates too and passing info to ICE.

Syotales

“ Make a Run for the Border". I loved that slogan. I wonder how that will be received today considering the open border and ICE controversy.

nickatnite511

It's the exact same demon of a mentality used to justify ICE agents shooting citizens. "We felt really really afraid, guys. What else could we do?" Get less afraid, you fucking snowflakes! Stop killing people to make yourselves feel more comfortable.

Sufficient-Mode2671

Same reason why you voted for someone who wanted to make America's military the most lethal on earth, wanted to build a border wall, and supports a genocide. Next democrat could say they want to make ICE as bad as Trump did if he pushed further right and youd still vote for them. You're hopeless.

evasive_dendrite

No it's a you problem, because now the country suffers because of it. Again, a *handful* of democrats approved it together with *every* republican, after the bill was written by republicans. The ICE oppression wouldn't have happened under Kamala. It is a you problem and it is your fault.

Sufficient-Mode2671

Of course I don't support ICE in any capacity. But it was the Democrats who approved the funding, not me. I wasnt the one who spent decades disenfranchising voters by increasing wealth disparity to gilded age levels.  Its the Democrats job to try to win votes. They decided they didnt want to do that at the risk of upsetting billionaire pedophiles. That's a them problem. Not me. 

TurbulentAct22

Conservatives would much rather spend money on our own Americans rather than foreign entities. Hence the ICE situation and the Somali corruption theft that we're cleaning up. Not sure where you got the hem and haw to say that😁 maybe your own party is gas lighting you🤔

evasive_dendrite

There are some establishment democrats, yes, so engage in the primaries and get rid of them. You're admitting here that you don't support the paramilitarization of ICE, which is a decree directly from Trump/project 2025/the GOP.

Sufficient-Mode2671

At what point does the DNC ever take responsibility in your opinion? They are historically unpopular and aren't doing anything to change that. Why is that my fault? Shouldn't the party be trying to support Americans to win them instead of approving a budget to fund ICE? Or is that my fault they did that too?

Robertroo

Let Barron lead a legion of ICE agents into Iran, and get this war wrapped up in an afternoon. /s

TomSlick92

I thought that was ICE weekend warriors from CoD.

Deadweight047

Send ICE too. Let's them do Nazi salute and find out what the Iranians think about it😂🤣

nitroglider

Probably fair at this point to include the US on that list as well, given the ICE attacks on our own civilians.

halfmanhalfrobot69

Let’s get some boots on the ground. Deploy all ICE agents to Iran and let’s see what they can do

jez_shreds_hard

Thank you for your willingness to do so. I'm in Boston, and we haven't gotten it nearly as bad as you all have in MN, but we've still had ICE thugs terrorizing our neighbors and friends. If just 1/3 or even 1/4 of the American population agreed to march on Washington or agreed to a general strike, we could force things to change. I'm hoping something will finally be a turning point, but I'm starting to lose that hope.

FirstAid123

Just waiting for ICE-FIGHT to sell his goog calls so we can rocket up

MechanicalDan1

News is reporting much less about DHS ICE funding and Epstein. Wag the Dog. Ever seen that movie?

LowRiskHades

I wonder if this also restricts ICE/DHS or if it’s just showboating.

G0RD0N_CLARK

You got your ICE signing bonus though, right?

TooLateQ_Q

Should get WTI or ICE. None of this fake shit.

orsomeshitidk

If we do put boots on the ground, I say ICE earns that sign on bonus and we send them

orsomeshitidk

If ICE sees me eating hummus you think I’m fucked?

AMCorBUST2021

I’m a Tesla bear. Real talk if Iranian oil shock are you regards gonna bid that up? Like if EVs existed in the 70s I feel like ICE would be oger

Prestigious_Ratio107

AI, ICE, Global Warming, Inflation and War. Of course the markets are positive.

B12-deficient-skelly

No, it isn't. I live in Minneapolis, and the only contribution to crime that ICE had in my city was to add to the homicide count.

twitterfluechtling

I wonder if this might trigger some terrorist attack / guerrilla warfare, though. US intelligence doesn't have the most competent leaders at the time, and lost cooperation with some of the allies. (Also, the current administration might be looking forward to have some serious local incidents to legitimate ICE and to have some more pretext to "postpone" the midterms?)

ElectricLetuceHead

It’s actually hilarious, nobody wants to admit but ICE efforts are actually staring to be measurable, crime is dropping in the states they’ve been removing criminals from

ddrsdght

If you disagree with the god emperor we’re just going to ship you to an ICE detention center and disappear you

OrdinaryMix4013

ICE yes this guy here right please take him into custody

HoustonInMiami

Kinda. Programers golden rule is, "Unless function, design for majority.' So while Excel is built like a mini-OS in itself and their enterprise users demand not dumbing down. What is the excuse for easy to avoid skill issues for adding a picture in Word? Skill issue for Word programmers, I'm gonna make Co-pilot program me a perfect replacement and sell it on NYC streets "1 DOLLA ICE COLD WATER" after it makes me richer than Buffet just for the irony

iratezero

They have like 200k revolutionary guard soldiers, basically what we're trying to build with ICE.

MolassesOk3200

After her policy of sending jackbooted thugs to break into American homes - even if it was in lefty Minnesota - the hardcore conservatives won’t vote for her. They were against that sort of thing back in the 90s and all someone has to do is compare her ICE and DHS to the ATF running tanks into Waco, TX. The ads write themselves.

Independent-Tree-985

> The U.S. Dollar Index (USDX, DXY, DX, or, informally, the "Dixie") is an index (or measure) of the value of the United States dollar relative to a basket of foreign currencies,[1] often referred to as a basket of U.S. trade partners' currencies.[2] The Index goes up when the U.S. dollar gains "strength" (value) when compared to other currencies.[3] > The index is designed, maintained, and published by ICE (Intercontinental Exchange, Inc.), with the name "U.S. Dollar Index" as a registered trademark.[4][5] > It is a weighted geometric mean of the dollar's value relative to following select currencies: > Euro (EUR), 57.6% weight > Japanese yen (JPY), 13.6% weight > Pound sterling (GBP), 11.9% weight > Canadian dollar (CAD), 9.1% weight > Swedish krona (SEK), 4.2% weight > Swiss franc (CHF), 3.6% weight TIL bro

Rick_12345

If I down vote a presidential speech on the official White House YouTube channel, should I expect a visit from the secret service or ICE?

Future_Chipmunk_7897

Is ICE an option?

Salty-Bid1597

He's lucky ICE didn't pick him up 

BeaverSack

I’m talking about Iranian protesters, not ICE

Temporary-Alarm-744

Do you expect ICE agents to get run over in the line of duty? Typical liberal