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shiny0metal0ass

Literally fighting through ICE to the polls.

GrizzlyP33

Nah that’s crazy talk. We wouldn’t be in a war with Iran that is destabilizing the global economy, we wouldn’t have tariffs that blowing up inflation, we wouldn’t have ICE picking up nannies and gardeners and even American citizens to throw them into illegal concentration camps or sell them off to other countries never to be seen from again. We also wouldn’t be pardoning the biggest fraudsters and criminals every time they pay the president what he wants. We wouldn’t have compromised the DOJ, we wouldn’t have slashed foreign aid with no plan in place leading to thousands of children dying for no reason, and we wouldn’t have a president making billions off their crypto scam and selling access to himself. And we wouldn’t be ballooning the out of control deficit in order to give more tax cuts to the wealthy. Nor would we be ostracizing so many of our allies with horrific foreign policy. Let’s stop pretending this is normal. There’s no candidate in the last 80 years that would come anywhere close to the damage and destruction this administration has done. Maybe Kamala would’ve been ineffective, but she wouldn’t be a constitutional crisis every day that is legitimately jeopardizing our democracy in order to continue to enrich the 1% with no shame.

Special-Remove-3294

AFAIK Teslas are okay as far as car goes but the quality and sales does not justify the corpo making them to be so highly valued IMO. Plenty of better options on the market for people who want cars AFAIK. I have been hearing that Chinese cars are very popular rn but car manufactures from within the EU are also competitive. Pretty sure the most popular USA car over here is Ford and not Tesla though that is for their ICE cars which are on their way out due to high fuel prices and people wanting less pollution.

Takadant

over 500 "not being targeted" people have been wrongfully detained by ICE [https://projects.propublica.org/american-citizens-detained-dhs-civil-rights/](https://projects.propublica.org/american-citizens-detained-dhs-civil-rights/)

_IscoATX

I said it gets tiring when people lump in brown skin with the “illegal” label or being targeted even as a hyperbole. I didn’t say that they’ve had not done this, my point is that it’s not something that affects your average Latino. 62 million Latinos in the U.S. 500 U.S. Citizens detained by ICE. Slight difference. Saying that “being brown is illegal” even in this context is just poor taste. How can you not see that?

BurntFire

For real, Supreme Court literally gave ICE permission to racially profile, plus all the Anti-DEI propaganda 

lemmingswag

Do you think that just maybe part of the reason ICE is a POS agency is that they’re targeting people based on the color of their skin? Also curious what you’re smoking if you think they aren’t targeting people based on skin color

_IscoATX

Ah yes, I live in constant unfathomable fear that this will happen to me. But yeah fuck ICE.

_IscoATX

Because as much as ICE is a POS agency that needs to answer for its crimes, it gets tiring when people assume everyone with brown skin is somehow an illegal immigrant or being targeted.

artbystorms

We'll see if ICE bothers to check when they're breaking your car window. Bro so stupid, he doesn't understand hyperbole.

rithsleeper

Grok bots are working well for me. Spacex reusable rockets are being used heavily and Star link is a massive leap in internet anywhere. Tesla isn’t a flop. Their cars are everywhere and it’s forced other companies to innovate instead of being dependent on old ICE tech. Most entrepreneurs “fail” at a lot of ideas. It’s how they can succeed quicker than most. Try it, doesn’t work, move on to what does. The Gigafactories are a massive undertaking on their own. Metal in, car out. And I know you don’t care, but the subterfuge behind twitter is something I’m glad was exposed. Call is toxic now but at least it’s in the open. I don’t think he’s a saint but I do think he’s responsible for a massive tech leap in human history that wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t exist.

SanDisk_Made_Me_Rich

When the recession comes, it will be different this time. There will be a lot of white-collar people thrown out of work but there are not enough blue-collar workers to actually do the work. AI is the sledgehammer knocking down the economy, although the stock market doesn’t see it yet. For example, the data centers are the apex of the building boom, but it can’t boom without 300,000 new electricians and million more skilled laborers in the construction trades; to make up for the ones who have been arrested and deported. You could say that the data centers have been put on ICE; because the AI build-out has begun on paper, and the money has been raised, borrowed and spent on contracts that can’t even begin without a horde of old-fashion blue-collar workers who don’t exist. Alas, the new apps are everywhere but they can’t feed on data unless the labor shortage is fixed. After all, how long does it take to train an electrician, plumber, HVAC technician, welder, etc.? The AI revolution is coming slower than investors think..... bringing more inflation than they expect, with no return on investment to show for it. Literally, an electrician can make $200k/yr working on a data center, if you could find enough of them to actually build it: virtually, a programmer isn’t worth a plumber anymore.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

ICE I saw this guy at homedepot in Florida yesterday 👆🏻

Charming_Raccoon4361

call the ICE

JohanLiebert92

I commend the French for their rioting skills...truly they are the greatest but let's be honest. if 1/10th of that shit happened in the US...ICE would be painting the town red, it'd be their greatest night out.

Sufficient_Habit5091

Graph in the article shows Latina women are 64% higher chance of diabetes, white and black are 9%. ICE going to ingrain poverty and sickness at a molecular level.

Worried_Quarter469

If you’re not reserving a Tesla hover car to jump ICE road blocks what are you even doing with your life

stewmander

We held elections during WWII and the fucking Civil War, there is literally no way for him to suspend the elections.  While he may try, there's also no way he can prevent 50 states from holding elections, even with ICE. To put it bluntly: he fired every competent military leader and they still haven't had the balls to put boots on the ground in Iran, and you think they'll invade CA, MN, and other blue states?  His only play is to invalidate the results which isn't going so well for him atm, he's trying to purge 20k ballots in CA with a flawed AI list that's been shot down once already and 0 proof.  There's not much they can actually donate long as people turn up to vote, vote early, and take steps like delivering ballots to drop boxes and signing up for ballot tracking and confirmation. 

specter800

> exploding and having the build quality of a bootleg Cambodian Lego set, Is this based on anything but Reddit posts and extreme outliers that naturally go viral? I'm around hundreds of Tesla's daily and I've yet to see them on fire or dragging mufflers and bumpers. Seen plenty of ICE cars on fire or dragging bodywork tho.

Comfortable_Sir_6104

Yeah, Tesla got about 14.5 billion dollars in subsidies (they were selling "carbon emission credits" given to them by government to ICE automakers, that needed to buy them because of law). To put that into perspective Tesla entire earnings right now stand at a bit below 4 billion.  SpaceX is built on government contracts, subsidies and money they got from gov to start out. About 20 billion all in all.

Bladelink

ICE is ordering 1000 as we speak.

GPUssydestroyer

Do we need to call ICE on you?

NeptuneRealized

Anecdotal as they might be, I am offering my experience. And thanks- I will enjoy my shitbox with FSD- it has a place in my stable of fancier ICE cars I would rather not put commuter mileage on 😉. Hope you have the weekend you deserve!

piltdown_manchild

>Except it’s compressed air. I sometimes transport charged scuba tanks (3,000 psi). If someone rear-ended me, the tank could shoot through the back of my car and kill someone behind me. The tanks in the Roadster are likely to be over 5,000 psi. >because this could be the ICE killer No it couldn't. This is a niche supercar (if it ever ships). The Model 3 and Y have comparable range, are already faster in a straight line than similarly priced ICE cars, and are actually affordable. Nobody is worried about this car killing off ICE cars any more than existing EVs have. Enthusiasts are more anti-EV than most liberals. Electric supercars are insanely fast off the line, but they tend to be less desirable as track cars due to the extra weight from the battery (hard on the brakes) and the fact that batteries can overheat and throttle your performance. My local track is very focused on safety and I doubt they would allow rear thrusters, but it would be fun to see on the straightaways, even if it only had enough pressure for a couple laps.

A_and_P_Armory

Except it’s compressed air. “Hey! Don’t get that air on my car!!!” Dert. It’s not like the flame thrower mods on the lambos. Clean(ish), all electric, compressed air. Libs are beside themselves because this could be the ICE killer (no, not that ICE. The other ICE). Faster, quieter, more reliable, etc. but now the libtards hate Elon more than they love not having diesel exhaust in their face. Go figure. There should be a 10 year long queue of liberals wanting this. But Elon!!! 😭😭😭. Incidentally, he even admits this is a hobby project. It’ll have no real impact on Tesla as a business.

Hot-Significance2387

I agree/disagree. Tesla is definitely struggling and has lost their competitive edge with everything turning EV. Elon's politics being Tesla's biggest mistake.  This car, for its intended customer, I think is spot on. And so far seems well done. Keeping in mind that the first roadster was positioned similarly. This is the Ford GT40 or Toyota Supra of Tesla. Which is spot on. The cyber cab is a solution looking for a problem. I don't see that panning out. Though if they ditched all the BS self driving tech (cost) and added a steering wheel to make it a truly affordable EV in the US then they could flip the ICE market. Won't happen though. Cybertruck is a product aimed at someone that can afford a $50k vehicle. Them bloating the cost with usless "armor" that can't be made cost effectively nor sold in Europe inflated the cost beyond the real market. The price is insane for what it is and only bought by your local semi wealthy douche.  Then the rest of the Tesla family has failed to evolve enough. The demand has dropped while costs increased in a competitive market. 

dystopiam

ICE COMET!!! You'd of made EverQuest wizards proud

MechanicalDan1

Not lost the plot. Changed the game. Relaunchable rockets. Faster than ICE EVs. Flying cars. Like him or not, he changes the games of old industries.

RonaldWRailgun

That sounds like ICE sport cars when they all used to jerk off about their Nurburgring times. And literally no one buying cars actually cared.

Recent_Fact480

Well, that’s not going to bring all the people ICE AND DOGE KILLED BACK FROM THE DEAD. So I could give two fucks about a car, sorry bro We’d have a better world if Elon musk never existed

kat_sky_12

Companies like Palantir are already in the S&P 500 today. If you dislike Musk and his politics, those guys are just as bad if not worse in many ways. Their software is helping ICE and others. Trump even invested in them before granting them a large DHS contract. There are also others who have completed recent political malpractice they just do it quietly.

fomoandyoloandnogrow

We deport Koreans now with ICE :kek:

ykoreaa

Saw ICE for what it is and called for disbandment and Nuremberg 2

ykoreaa

Right?! So many human rights violations and the gov't isn't going to protect ICE either when things hit the fan. They're already requesting 50k back from fired ICE members and they'll garnish their wages until they get it back so idk why they're roaming around like as if they're untouchable. They're just paid thugs for the corrupt.

sungurse

thanks ICE

ykoreaa

ICE now going after victims from domestic abuse cases, k

hamster_crusader

Policing videos in America can be so bad that you wish it was AI. Respect to honest law enforcement and police but this shit is out of hand. Maybe I'm a coward for talking shit on the Internet, but at least I don't hide behind a badge.. or a mask like those assholes in ICE.

RocknrollClown09

Police should be held to military standards. I spent a year in AFG and the lack of oversight that police/ICE have is mind blowing. If we could follow the Rules of Engagement when the Taliban would give mentally disabled kids backpack bombs and tell them to "talk to the soldiers over there," I don't want to hear excuses from a fat douche bag cop in Mena Arkansas. Their culture needs to change. We don't have to reinvent the wheel, every other developed country in the world manages to police without constant disgraceful abuse of authority.

leviair-seadragon

> Rumors of socialism Y'all really have been trained to be scared of a word. Holy shit. Better have ICE go after these rumors or socialism. Think of how scary it would be to tax billionaires more!

Chill-more1236

too soon, lol I shit you not... whenever the ICE raids started, my local grocery stores obviously responded, they suddenly stopped stocking or lowered their diversity of Latino foods. My wife loves a certain brand of mexican sour cream to make elote, couldn't find it.

Itchy_Pudding_9940

so sick of seeing videos of dirty egomaniac short tempered man child cops.. from ICE to local PD seems like the job attracts the worst people now.. the Trump types. Granted there are some good ones but they seem to be the minority now..

verified-trader

Hi there! WTF can he taco? Can't unfuck global trade? Can't unfuck the Strait of Hormuz? Can't get people back to work with ICE?

0o0o0o0o0o0z

> When democrats win midterms he will immediately blame them for the inflation And the deficit, and Iran, and our horrid foreign policy, and tariffs... "How could the democrats let this happen?", and ICE, and all the settlements and lawsuits coming for unlawful detention of American citizens and immigrants, cuts to medical research, cuts to the VA, blame the Dems for why the military is in shambles, and for the AI imposition that's going to put us in a new GFR, and cut to Medicare/Medicaid, etc... and since this can't get fixed in the same amount of time it took to destroy the American goldfish/sheep, will flip a switch in four years and really make sure the American empire collapses. I mean, I am middle-aged, and I've even seen this fucking movie 3-4 times, but we are running out of film, and I really do feel "this time it will be diffrent" if we don't right the ship in this moment and CUT THE ROT OUT and do our best to prevent it from happening again. But a little bird tells me the South actually won the Civil War... Mighta taken Russia, China, and the American oligarchy... but I kinda feel they finally got to the end state to undo everything FDR did... even winning a war... they'll fuck that too... [Welcome to the new Chinese Century... THE BEST IS YET TO COME!](https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f448185af5808094671183c/master/pass/Lach-RNCNight1-KimberlyGuilfoyle.jpg)

InclinationCompass

Inefficiency in the government because: \-$100B budget for ICE that resulted in higher cost of living for citizens \-Pointless war \-Over $40T in debt Where will Trump get the money? By printing it and raising inflation higher than it already is? It sure as hell aint coming from his own bank account.

No-Inevitable1270

im getting raped by donald i told donald im too hold fuck u trump voters fuck american guys rot in hell ICE should ramapage

No-Inevitable1270

FUCKKKK I BOUGHT IREN AT 34.74 FUCKKKKKKKK U DONALLDDDDDD DSTUPID PORANGE FUCK FUCK U AMERICA ICE BETTER GO ON A RAMPAGE JUST DO IT FUCK U GUYS SSSSSSSS AHHHHHHHHHH we will recover please iren i beg you someone should have not voted for retard donald stupid americans u guys deserve this fuck america fuck trump i hope ice goes on a rampage y'all mfs deserve this shit fuck u trump voters and americans couldn't vote for a black and brown woman cuz she's black and brown go suck this orange fuck's dickwe will recover please iren i beg you someone should have not voted for retard donald stupid americans u guys deserve this fuck america fuck trump i hope ice goes on a rampage y'all mfs deserve this shit fuck u trump voters and americans couldn't vote for a black and brown woman cuz she's black a

No-Inevitable1270

FUCKKKK I BOUGHT IREN AT 34.74 FUCKKKKKKKK U DONALLDDDDDD DSTUPID PORANGE FUCK FUCK U AMERICA ICE BETTER GO ON A RAMPAGE JUST DO IT FUCK U GUYS SSSSSSSS AHHHHHHHHHH we will recover please iren i beg you someone should have not voted for retard donald stupid americans u guys deserve this fuck america fuck trump i hope ice goes on a rampage y'all mfs deserve this shit fuck u trump voters and americans couldn't vote for a black and brown woman cuz she's black and brown go suck this orange fuck's dickwe will recover please iren i beg you someone should have not voted for retard donald stupid americans u guys deserve this fuck america fuck trump i hope ice goes on a rampage y'all mfs deserve this shit fuck u trump voters and americans couldn't vote for a black and brown woman cuz she's black a

BarneyThePurpleDino-

So have u called ICE on your H1B worker?

Werd_up_cuz

lol, mass illegal immigration, that’s where you’re hiding? Pathetic. Warrantless searches, cavanaugh stops, ICE killing people in the streets. You got what you asked for, repub.

YourChildhood5762

A $10,000 discount changes a lot of people's minds. They said the same thing about Made in Japan. Aside from that, legislation is pushing people out of ICE vehicles.

GmysBETS

ICE

J_da_CPA

ICE is trying to recruit me. How should I respond?

Ok_Yesterday_3585

ICE engines don’t like short trips Puts fuel into the oil Facts

GPUssydestroyer

I’ve never seen Trump work this hard for my vote In like a week he’s banned the H1-Bs, started a criminal probe of Ilhan Omar, sued Killary and ramped up ICE arrests of criminal illegals. I wish we had an election every few months this is great

Bravadette

I just hope people begin to realize that used evs dont age the way used ICE does. People still saying theyre too expensive aren't looking into the plethora of used vehicles on the lot

Charming_Raccoon4361

call the ICE

Excellent-Phone8326

Vegas now caters to the rich not large crowds so this doesn't really surprise me. This also means the locals have less cash which supports less attendance at these games. Canadians oddly don't want to be harassed by ICE or support a country who is constantly threatening them.

g1rlchild

1. I saw an interesting stat where Trump's approval is now below the percentage of psycho people who think ICE ought to be abusing people harder, which ought to be his floor. And because of who he is, he's unlikely to turn things around in the next two years, so it's unlikely to go back up. We'll see if it can drop much further, but I hope so. 2. We're starting to. Mamdani has shocked a lot of people by showing what good governance looks like and that it's even still possible in this country, and it's led to some interesting candidates in this year's Senate races that are refusing PAC contributions. El Sayid, Ossoff, and Talerico all are making really strong cases for real change in the campaign trail. Whether any of this will stick when it comes time to actually govern, we'll see, but it's the first sign of life I've seen from the party in a while. I'm hopeful Ossoff is gearing up for a run for President, he's so eloquent on the stump at making a case for real change. But again, we'll see what actually happens. My base assumption has been that this country is fucked beyond repair. But I'm starting to be slightly hopeful that Trump is so delusional and incompetent that it could create an opening. But I've been burned many times over my lifetime, so I'm prepared for all of it to fall apart again.

oneWeek2024

with maybe the exception of nation wide strike. literally everything that can be done has been done. i mean... presumedly 2-3 people have shot at him. there have been hundreds if not thousands of lawsuits challenging his dumb fuck executive orders, firings of gov workers, attempts to destroy landmarks, national parks, etc etc etc, there have been numerous protests. hell.. people torching tesla properties got apartheid clyde to run for the hills. organized protests in minneappolis had some effect on ICE raids there... there are efforts behind the scenes of governors/not for profits preparing for various contingencies. and aid groups and other organizations doing what can be done. the simple reality is, there really isn't "much" anyone can do, unless you want to be a criminal and attempt to kill him. everything else is being done.

The-Iron-Bird

ICE are the people even the police won't take, which is already an incredibly low bar

ykoreaa

What is going on over there?? I heard people are literally being shot down by ICE

ykoreaa

ICE is just abducting people in broad daylight and then making up accusations of those said people assaulting them. Um, America, you okay??

_176_

You're an NPC. A classic perpetually online low IQ person parroting whatever memes you saw as if that's reality. "you're a slave to capitalism bro. We're all slaves. The US isn't free because ICE shot an illegal immigrant this one time in a country of 340,000,000 people. I heard this one guys was treated unfairly one time in Minnesota, 3,000 miles from where you live, bro. If only we had communism, we could have 92% extreme poverty and 13 cents/hour median incomes like Cuba. Everybody is free to starve to death under authoritarian rule in Cuba. That's freedom, bro. Trustmebro, I saw a meme once."

Open-Sun-7900

You realize that's absolutely meaningless right? "I'm free, my freinds are free" is completely anecdotal, and is absolutely meaningless. And your point about "taking care of myself in a free society" is absolutely hilarious, considering my country is, by many standards, several times freer than the US. I don't have armed undercover ICE cops patrolling my workplace, nor do I have a president that calls for livestreamed medieval-style executions. Maybe the problem is you. Your intellectual shallowness and absolute inability to hold an indipendent opinion.

light_to_shaddow

Dependant on Chinese EV technology. Trump might be the most eco friendly President ever. Failed to bring coal mining back, Fuel so expensive the subsequent demand destruction has seen CO2 release levels drop off a cliff, now Europe's tipped over into buying Chinese EVs at higher rates than ICE vehicles. Frankly, America turning a blind eye to child rape might save the world. Unless it destroys it. Hard to say which way it'll go.

xpercipio

The fuzzy caterpillars said it's a mild winter, ICE deported El Nino. People are buying 1500$ ps5s. Also the economy can't collapse until there's a blue president so it looks like they did it.

BarneyThePurpleDino-

Do you think Microsoft stocks will pump if ICE raids Microsoft on Monday for H1B violations?

GravitasFailures

lol, ICE is literally looking for that excuse, Trump is dying to declare martial law and: https://i.redd.it/tzpym92m3luh1.gif

BarneyThePurpleDino-

Can we call ICE to raid Microsoft for H1B?

nm41961

Oh my God! America voted for the biggest idiot who has ever lived in the White House! He’s making a deal with a mass murderer to get diesel, which will not get to American farmers and ranchers until well after the election! Trump is so useless and a pathological liar! God help us! Vote Blue in November and screw ICE!

The1Ski

ICE in the streets, public executions, blatant corruption, anti NATO, pro-dictator, and supporting Russian violent expansion. If you don't think they're going to fuck with elections you're not paying attention.

mazu74

You’re going to need a WWII industrial level push for that, an absolute fuck ton of new plants would have to open up and you’ll also still somehow have to supply all that lithium. People also can’t always afford EVs or hybrids, especially when it’s payments for that or rent/mortgages, or food, or insurance, or any other basic necessity, or they could save some money with a cheaper ICE.

Hysteria625

Because the only person who matters to Trump is Trump. People think they know what that means, but not really. Most people have limits to their behavior. They won’t attack certain groups, they won’t cross some moral line, or they have some sense of shame that lets them know when they go too far. Trump has none of those. Literally none. He will say or do anything to win, he will hurt people just to win, and you cannot trust him on anything. Worse, Trump has surrounded himself with people whose sole qualification is that they are loyal to him. There are a lot of things Trump could do. He could declare war on Blue States. He could have ICE start shooting everyone in blue cities. He could round up all Democratic congresspeople and ship them all to Uganda in the middle of the night. Hell, Trump could declare Congress unconstitutional, and the Supreme Court could just take its time to hear the case and strike down the emergency injunction against shuttering Congress. There is nothing he won’t do, so we need to be ready.

bate_Vladi_1904

Next month - martial law and rejecting election results. The month after - army on the streets, helping the ICE to clean "the traitors" from US soil.

Squirll55

How about this.......FUCK TRUMP, FUCK ICE, FUCK EVERY IDIOTIC REPUBLICAN, and FUCK TRUMP AGAIN. THE AI, AI, AI is gonna take us all out, WHY, The (SI) SUPER IDIOT IS IN CHARGE. THE REAL ENEMY. YES, WE ARE ALL ENEMIES TO A (AI) ABSOLUTE IGNORANT MORON.

ykoreaa

serious how immortal is the administrative being under 🍊? And ICE is shooting people in NYC

CashoutCowboyTX

bold move cotton, lets see how this plays out while ICE ramps up and the AI squeeze becomes more prevalent

DiscoStuTalkin2You

bers r illegal and ICE hunt them all

NeuroLeak

BREAKING NEWS: 🥭deploys ICE agents to the Pacific Ocean in efforts to deport the dangerous Narcoterrorist El Niño

MakingApplesCollide

IIt feels like the Democratic Party’s embrace of “wokeness” pushed a lot of centrist voters away. Trump’s rise pushed many of those same people back the other way. It’s hard to tell what being a “Democrat” or “Republican” even means anymore. Both parties tout fiscal responsibility. Democrats argue for raising taxes on the wealthy; Republicans argue for cutting social programs. I wish we’d do both, reduce spending on certain social programs and raise taxes on the wealthy, because that’s the only way you actually move the needle on the deficit. His legacy is going to be DOGE, ICE, EPSTEIN, and now the IRAN WAR. It is one dumpster fire after another. Many of my friends were Trump supporters in the early innings. A lot of them have cut their ties and finally see him for what he is. I am very curious to see how the mid terms fair for republicans.

Orennji

The one thing they had going for them, low production cost per pound, has collapsed entirely. The downward trend accelerated heavily after the ICE raid. They generate less revenue than many mid tier MSOs, and yet are still even now still valued st multiple times their market cap. This thing was entirely built on hype.

DearCastiel

He openly admitted Musk helped him with the online votes during the presidential, and here all of a sudden he's taking Musk back into the government's good graces, so that's going to be more online vote cheating. He's also already passed a bunch of changes to make voting less convenient for people, and he can totally send his brown shirts (ICE) in blue states voting booth to scare voters away. And there's a bunch more stuff he could do. If I was him, I'd do a false-flag attack on a big city. If things don't look like they're moving enough, use it to declare martial law and prevent the mid-terms altogether. The guy is looking down the barrel of treason charges if he is impeached, he's got nothing to lose going balls-deep preventing the mid-terms from being lost.

Sorry-Poem7786

immigrant wolves!!!! send ICE canine!!!

Slightlybadpicks

ICE this guy right here 🖕

Ok_Yesterday_3585

ICE engines like to be driven Having a motor that barely runs is terrible for longevity

fomoandyoloandnogrow

ICE, 👆🏻 this guy right here

Helpful-Weekend-2224

They are blaming ICE weakening the economy...LMFAO!

pinkmeanie

PHEV, where commuting miles are 100% electric and ICE is only engaged for long trips, is not negligible.

NoamLigotti

\> Dr. Paul identifies as a Libertarian because the Republican party left him behind. No, that's not why. He identifies with the ideology that the capital-L party is supposed to represent, but that's separate from why he does. \> The entire platform used to be based upon fiscal responsibility and personal responsibility... Yeah, right. Maybe more than they do now and back in the 50s, but that's not saying much. Reagan sure as hell wasn't "fiscally responsible". Nixon wasn't "fiscally responsible". \> none of which exists in the current Republican party to any degree. One of the few true litmus tests of Republicans used to be ending the department of education, but anyone who even suggests it is now vilified. Uh, Trump has repeatedly talked about that and he has cut funding to it more than any government since its inception. Yeah, that'll cut the debt: eliminate the Dept of Education while spending another 100 billion on ICE and another trillion to the DOD and maybe another trillion on another unpaid war, and stall economic growth outside of the S&P, and a few more multi-trillion $ tax cuts while still allowing use of tax havens and not increasing revenue. That'll do it. I mean what does the Dept of Education do anyway? Just makes us have to use DEI and pumps kids full of liberal Marxist propaganda through government schools probly, \> When Paul ran for president...he ran as a Republican, because anybody not affiliated with one of the two privately owned mainstream political parties cannot win and everybody knows it. I'm afraid you don't know much about the history of politics. I registered Republican and voted for Paul in the primaries. I'm afraid you think you know a lot more than you actually do. \> ...and further, you're making my point. The word conservative has the base word "conserve" as in protect from decay, preserve, avoid harm, avoid waste. None of which bears any resemblance to the current Republican party or the lifelong democrat turned republican currently leading it. The man is a real estate developer that's in love with debt. Words can have multiple, variable definitions. But yes I agree that contemporary Republicans are counter to any literal or technical definition for conservative. They have more in common with the term that involves promising to restore a nation to a mythical past through blind loyalty to an authoritarian nationalist party and leader and by cleansing the nation of undesirables. But it's politically incorrect to actually use the word so you have to say right-wing populist, far-right, alt-right, new right, or just "conservative". \> If JFK were alive today, he'd run as a Republican...and he'd be unable to get elected due to being too...wait for it...conservative. All of this, of course, helps explain why his nephew is in the current administration. Well that's a great point in the sense that the Democrats are now certainly more conservative than the Republicans are, in the sense of "caution and restraint" and "fiscal conservatism", though not in "social conservatism". But no I don't think that explains why RFK Jr. is. The reason he's in this admin is because he's a conspiracy fictionist crackpot and willing to be a loyalist to the party leader. And other crackpots like him. The rest of his family does not see eye to eye to say the least. \> "Ron Paul’s conservative rating in 2012 varied significantly depending on the organization and methodology used. His American Conservative Union (ACU) rating was 68%, while the National Taxpayers Union gave him a 92% score for fiscal conservatism. Other notable ratings include 91% from Americans for Prosperity, 92% from The Club for Growth, and 100% from the Cato Institute." \> I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. As I said, words can be defined different ways. Liberals are conservatives, and conservatives \[used to be\] liberals. I don't know what we're debating.

SanDisk_Made_Me_Rich

I'm doing everything I can to hide this Latina baddie from ICE, but **she is so fucking loud LOL** It was nice while it lasted and is why I prefer Eastern European women. But I only live once and I had to experiment for fun.

macattack892

Hybrid. ICE to power electric engine.

GEOdude2027

The fall of GEO has started. They’ve been killing it as the #1 beneficiaries of ICE contracts but with a blue wave coming into congress and defunding ICE becoming the #1 domestic talking point the stock will inevitably return to historically normal levels.

MenagerieAlfred

Probably ICE or FBI

aveggiebear

Somebody put this person in a straightjacket and lock him in an ICE holding cage forever. ✌🏼

bigmeatbag

🌈🐻 getting gunned down in the streets like they got pulled over by ICE

Sabbathius

I still worry about the election process. He just brought Musk back into the fold literally the other day, presumably do to his thing again with the voting machines. ICE has been training for 18 months, and will likely be stationed around polling places, snatching "illegals" (aka anyone who looks brown and might vote Democrat). And Hegseth is getting the military ready and purging the few still left whose moral compass still vaguely points towards freedom and democracy. Then again, with the endemic incompetence of this administration, I kinda doubt they'll actually pull it off. Too many moving parts. Still, if you're even slightly off-white, and worry about your ability to vote being interfered with, you may want to swallow your pride and get a MAGA hat. Just put it on as you approach the polling station, to get though the ICE cordons.

MrStealYoBeef

Not really. Battery tech was more the issue. The ICE was many times more cost and space efficient for the same purpose.

ayers231

Pretty sure this was always the plan. Thiel isn't an idot. Use Trump to get across the election line. Pass as much of Project 2025 as possible while Trump is President. Let him get impeached after January 20th, 2027. This gives Vance the possibility of being president for 10 years without a constitutional crisis. Then they'll soften up. End the war in Iran, fuel prices go down a bit, groceries go down a bit. End the crazy tariffs, prices go down a little bit. Have ICE work like they did under Obama, quietly, behind the scenes, get them out of the news cycle. Push for 2028 Vance win. People have the memory of goldfish. Racists and misogynists are mad right now. Get rid of Trump, save the farmers with a bailout, get costs down, and they'll be right back in the polling booth pulling the lever for Republicans.

Expert_Context5398

I'm not saying you as a consumer shouldn't want to buy it. I'm just saying it's being priced that way for nefarious reasons. The reason why China is subsidizing EV to a high extent is because they see this as their moment to seize the auto industry. This was normally a Japanese, European, and U.S.-dominated market. Before EV's existed, China wasn't a known auto-manufacturing country because ICE vehicles were already perfected and China could not compete against other brands. EV's gave the auto industry a new product which allowed China to seize on it. That's why they allowed Tesla to enter their country without restrictions while normally, they require 50-50 ownership with a partnering Chinese auto manufacturer. I do agree that vehicle prices in America have been insane. A large part of that is due to how much of a driving culture there is in America where people want the premium options and the more affordable options such as sedans or hatchbacks. Sedans used to be 50% of the market share in the U.S. until a decade ago but now it's hovering around 15%.

Expert_Context5398

You don't even understand what you're talking about. I've been investing in this space for over a decade and I personally have connections to people who work in the EV industry in China as a parts distributer. I just gave you a reason why the U.S. isn't subsidizing EV's... Because you need Congress approval to get these spending bills passed and because many of these states/cities rely on ICE vehicles for their economy, subsidizing EV's could effectively mean they lose their jobs and votes... Do you understand the differences in how government works in China versus America? Clearly you don't. People aren't 'demanding' BYD's here, lmao. You also apparent It's just you Tesla haters who want BYD to desperately come here because you're upset that Tesla is the only one dominating EV's in America. You can't stand to see it. Just the fact that you think Tesla is inferior to BYD in every way, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Do you seriously think any sane country would allow a heavily subsidized product to flood their country, destroy their economy, and just accept it as standard? If BYD had to manufacture in the U.S., do you seriously think you'll be able to buy BYD vehicles at the prices you can get them for in China? What kind of business school did you attend or are you just here to act stupid?