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ShittyUsernane1222

KWarsh is talking like as if 🥭 threatened to deport Kwarsh to ICE camp due to his hawkish position.

1-866-867-5309

try selling a european ICE vehicle from 20 years ago in any country when there are decent EV alternative and see how it works out

Kobayashi-Coffee-Co

Wait did he report the niece to ICE or not?

1-866-867-5309

oh yes, they're totally stealing all the EV technology that doesn't even exist in the EU the only thing EU is asleep at is trying to sell the same ICE cars from 20 years ago for higher prices

Nympho_BBC_Queen

Will happen either way. It takes 2-3 people to make 100 E-care. ICE cars require 30-40 depending on the factory.

WordsHappenedHere

Between this cluster fuck of a war and the upcoming midterms, and the rate hike coming. The best moves here are to preserve capital. Which means raise some cash and wait to be a buyer. Dont be a hero. Mango is most definitely going to fuck a lot of shit up between now and November. Probably will send in ICE and other federal agents to scare voters. Expect violence and social unrest. The war will probably get worse because there is no good exit here that doesn’t involve spending a lot of money and more lives to get Iran in line. The rate hike is actually bullish if it gets inflation in line. Let’s see how the market interprets it. The next most likely move here is we lose market Breadth (RSP) and then Apple will fall. That will eventually lead to capitulation.

JBallMan23

people saying this isn't sustainable don't understand economics. Also, as if our world around us isn't drastically more tech heavy with electronics, EV, ICE vehicles, etc not requiring more and more chips, electronic hardware and more

guardian87

Besides not hitting product market fit with their design. At least not in a big way. BMW was way more successful, just shipping the (mostly) same design as ICE with worse efficiency.

hotforlowe

*This along with hundreds of other reflections in my memoirs titled “The ICE agent of Iowa: how I stopped farming corn and made something of myself”*

Coldvyvora

You have ~30 models today that look normal. Theres still morons that make them stupid looking or ugly, but most normal brands just made their own models that are just like the ICE counterparts 14 years ago you had prototypes that were going nowhere at all, with ranges not enough to go get bread.

Coldvyvora

14 years ago electric cars were a fucking joke. Made specifically UGLY so everyone would keep getting ICE cars and not upsetting the status quo. His money invested heavily into making electric cars that wouldnt suck ass. Nowadays the tesla company valuation its retarded and makes no sense. But the rest of the car companies have been forced to make a serious effort to level the field and offer actual electric or hybrid options. 14 years ago, reusable orbital rockets were a thing of Science fiction books and movies. They mocked and laughed at each rocket explosion for Falcon 1. He again took a gamble and started a company that tried to make them work and self funded itself by providing a service the world didnt have before. Today we have reasonable global internet coverage, if you dont have access is your country limiting its access because you can just point an antenna up and you will get satelites over you. Even on kilimanjaro. Also rockets landing barely makes the news anymore. So much that the rest of rocket companies are SCRAMBLING to make their own reusable to stay relevant. Many of his other enterprises failed or were abandoned. Tunnels thing, hyperloop, affordable solar roofs, neurochips to try to improve cybernetics... And the dude is a fucking lunatic asshole. But lets be real. Name the other 15 next billionaires and tell me what they've done for the world. Bezos made world scale logistics work and everyone can order a next day delivery and make a website through their cloud. But the rest are quietly sitting in their hoards like lizzards enjoying how everyone piles on Musk

Jullyfds

No site de alistamento no exercito Ucraniano eles fazem promessas de salario aumentado em relação ao tempo de serviço algo extremamente perigoso levando em consideração que quanto mais tempo vc esta la mais arriscam sua vida e suas chances de morrer consequentemente aumentam, por exemplo vc pode ser recrutado por seu papel a ser exercido muitas vezes sem envolvimento de combate, so ver la no site, mas na pratica varios latinos relatam a deturpação de seus papeis sem ao menos conseguir exerce-los, sendo empurados pouco a pouco para a linha de frente mesmo sem experiencia, alem de que o requisito de ficha criminal limpa não é levada em consideração, po exemplo, varios combatentes de facções aqui no Brasil ja se alistaram contando experiencia para fugir do mundo do crime, tambem como varias pessoas que perderam tudo em apostas fazendo o mesmo, na esperança de serem abraçados pela Ucrania como se o pais tivesse zelo com as vidas de possiveis traidores aparte da nação nesse momento de crise para se manterem vivos até la. Alem dos casos de racismo de descaso de soldados de outras etnias, sou Brasileira e meu pais é aonde tem mais recrutados de outra nação para a guerra na Ucrania depois da Colombia, aonde tem Palantir tem apenas como objetivo a aperfeiçoação da ferramenta como utensilio de controle e guerra, assim que eles lucram, pesquise mais afundo, em troca de ajudar a Ucrania a experiencia da ia em campo de guerra serve para apliar os numeros dessa empresa e dar uma cara de produto validado em situaçoes extremas. Palantir se aproveita da fraqueza do ser humano que eles enxergam como poder dentro da ideologia construida de tijolo em tijolo pela empresa, que é, a guerra, em escala menor ou maior para ser configurada com todas as letras como guerra, por exemplo, eles são a principal ferramenta de produtividade ultilizada pela ICE, essa ia desde o nascimento da empresa nasceu com um algoritmo enviesado com ideologia e cor, fascismo na raiz, eles deram notoriedade e financiamento para a disseminação do tal "iluminismo das trevas", no Caribe eles financiam uma cidade-estado (que o atual governo no Caribe tentou derrubar por motivos de revolta populacional (não vou me prolongar nisso) mas o governo para conseguir isso foi limitada por uma lei que ao menos é do pais por conta de uma relação de empresa e estado extracontinental que conta com leis do pais da empresa, no qual os financiadores multibilionarios no caso o proprio projeto exige uma indenização de 11 bilhoes para se retirarem, o pais produz por ano algo por volta de 32 bilhoes, agora menos 11 bilhoes, deixaria uma rachadura gigante na economia do pais por uns anos, isso não é poder demais para vc?. Olha esses são os objetivos do projeto prospera e oque ele é: apesar de estar em território hondurenho, será considerada como uma cidade-estado independente, sendo administrada pela iniciativa privada. Na pratica um governo aparte em um estado e o objetivo deles, bem aqui esta: A ambição é se expandir através de Roatán em mais locais de Honduras e, em seguida, em toda a América. Essa merda é vendida como uma utopia com ideologia de ditadura tecnologica, entende o problema? [https://exame.com/mundo/conheca-prospera-cidade-liberal-honduras/](https://exame.com/mundo/conheca-prospera-cidade-liberal-honduras/) [https://www.dw.com/pt-br/o-que-diz-o-manifesto-da-palantir-que-promove-armas-de-ia/a-76897062](https://www.dw.com/pt-br/o-que-diz-o-manifesto-da-palantir-que-promove-armas-de-ia/a-76897062) [https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/664795-ucrania-campo-de-testes-da-palantir-artigo-de-peter-korotaev](https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/664795-ucrania-campo-de-testes-da-palantir-artigo-de-peter-korotaev)

Jullyfds

No site de alistamento no exercito Ucraniano eles fazem promessas de salario aumentado em relação ao tempo de serviço algo extremamente perigoso levando em consideração que quanto mais tempo vc esta la mais arriscam sua vida e suas chances de morrer consequentemente aumentam, por exemplo vc pode ser recrutado por seu papel a ser exercido muitas vezes sem envolvimento de combate, so ver la no site, mas na pratica varios latinos relatam a deturpação de seus papeis sem ao menos conseguir exerce-los, sendo empurados pouco a pouco para a linha de frente mesmo sem experiencia, alem de que o requisito de ficha criminal limpa não é levada em consideração, po exemplo, varios combatentes de facções aqui no Brasil ja se alistaram contando experiencia para fugir do mundo do crime, tambem como varias pessoas que perderam tudo em apostas fazendo o mesmo, na esperança de serem abraçados pela Ucrania como se o pais tivesse zelo com as vidas de possiveis traidores aparte da nação nesse momento de crise para se manterem vivos até la. Alem dos casos de racismo de descaso de soldados de outras etnias, sou Brasileira e meu pais é aonde tem mais recrutados de outra nação para a guerra na Ucrania depois da Colombia, aonde tem Palantir tem apenas como objetivo a aperfeiçoação da ferramenta como utensilio de controle e guerra, assim que eles lucram, pesquise mais afundo, em troca de ajudar a Ucrania a experiencia da ia em campo de guerra serve para apliar os numeros dessa empresa e dar uma cara de produto validado em situaçoes extremas. Palantir se aproveita da fraqueza do ser humano que eles enxergam como poder dentro da ideologia construida de tijolo em tijolo pela empresa, que é, a guerra, em escala menor ou maior para ser configurada com todas as letras como guerra, por exemplo, eles são a principal ferramenta de produtividade ultilizada pela ICE, essa ia desde o nascimento da empresa nasceu com um algoritmo enviesado com ideologia e cor, fascismo na raiz, eles deram notoriedade e financiamento para a disseminação do tal "iluminismo das trevas", no Caribe eles financiam uma cidade-estado (que o atual governo no Caribe tentou derrubar por motivos de revolta populacional (não vou me prolongar nisso) mas o governo para conseguir isso foi limitada por uma lei que ao menos é do pais por conta de uma relação de empresa e estado extracontinental que conta com leis do pais da empresa, no qual os financiadores multibilionarios no caso o proprio projeto exige uma indenização de 11 bilhoes para se retirarem, o pais produz por ano algo por volta de 32 bilhoes, agora menos 11 bilhoes, deixaria uma rachadura gigante na economia do pais por uns anos, isso não é poder demais para vc?. Olha esses são os objetivos do projeto prospera e oque ele é: apesar de estar em território hondurenho, será considerada como uma cidade-estado independente, sendo administrada pela iniciativa privada. Na pratica um governo aparte em um estado e o objetivo deles, bem aqui esta: A ambição é se expandir através de Roatán em mais locais de Honduras e, em seguida, em toda a América. Essa merda é vendida como uma utopia com ideologia de ditadura tecnologica, entende o problema? [https://exame.com/mundo/conheca-prospera-cidade-liberal-honduras/](https://exame.com/mundo/conheca-prospera-cidade-liberal-honduras/) [https://www.dw.com/pt-br/o-que-diz-o-manifesto-da-palantir-que-promove-armas-de-ia/a-76897062](https://www.dw.com/pt-br/o-que-diz-o-manifesto-da-palantir-que-promove-armas-de-ia/a-76897062) [https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/664795-ucrania-campo-de-testes-da-palantir-artigo-de-peter-korotaev](https://www.ihu.unisinos.br/categorias/664795-ucrania-campo-de-testes-da-palantir-artigo-de-peter-korotaev)

Icy_Jelly_315

"change the oil", check out Mr steampunk with his ICE

mkat23

Yeah it kinda really fucking sucks living in it, I’m constantly worried about my friends, especially with all the ICE activity, constantly worried or upset for people I don’t even know as well. It’s beyond frustrating and honestly feels kind of hopeless, I’m trying so hard not to let that feeling take over.

Spiritual-Matters

There’s a reason members from his party kept trying to get access to election machines, why he wants to ban mail-in voting, why they pushed for gerrymandered maps, and why he offered to remove ICE from MN if they gave him voter rolls.

jgoldrb48

Shut up bot. Talk about your own problems. When ICE has 1300+ open rape cases, no one wants to hear shit from you or any other American.

octopus_serenader

Is there a grate in the pipe or can you hide there when ICE comes?

SignificanceLate7002

Who want to be the one to pay $100k for a visit from ICE?

Fardrengi

There's no gas for you and me, but you can bet your ass ICE and selective police departments will have some

bluen

I actually think ICE should have busted down homeless, not immigrants 🤔 spy 700

unikuenobody

Everybody booing going ICE list!

VonGryzz

Why not use ICE to deport the smoke

Reddit_2_2024

Are you considering joining the ranks of ICE for the 50K sign-on bonus?

Lmitation

ICE has been doing that for him, they straight up lie to them about what they see with their own eyes and they eat it up like we don't have rights anymore

Zealousideal_Book_40

I have specifically checked 10 year USA gov bonds. Looking at the corporate yield benchmark ICE BofA US Corporate Index Effective Yield, the conclusion is similar, the bond yields stayed relatively at the ssame level for last 3 years

stoopher

Passing laws and governing is hard and doesn't make you rich. They'll just send an ICE "agent" they hired through their buddy's security contracting firm to grab you and disappear you to a concentration camp owned and operated by the company of another buddy and then pay another friend's human trafficking service that is contracted with DHS to move you from privately owned facility after facility until you "disappear" from the system making it impossible for your friends, family or community members to find you and hold anyone accountable for your wrongful and illegal detention.

OpeDefinitely

Can we send ICE up to Canada to try to put this fire out?

TBGems

"we need to make some adjustments moving forward"....🙄 I wonder what unconstitutional things are in store for the mid-terms and 2028...there was a YouTube poll I saw about "How would you feel if ICE was at polling stations checking IDs" This is going to be a boatload of crazy...

ryan1826

ICE needs to detain and deport all of the bers

sureyeahdude

ICE will start arresting domestic terrorists, aka Democrats

MenagerieAlfred

Which will be pretext for ICE at every polling station, seize voting machines, and making Johnson refuse to seat winners due to “irregularities” if that doesn’t work well enough.

tgff333

well nice to see UAL red after seeing that video of a United employee threatening to call ICE on a customer at sfo. like wtf

ChipWong82

Foreign stocks ruining it for American stocks. Can we ask ICE to deport them?

River_Sandhu

It’s Spains WC, they look the most complete team, so obviously 🥭 will send ICE to their hotel to detain their back four 😂

PalomaNegra888

He's going to announce ICE agents at every polling place (but only in Blue States) to support the "fairness"

sonofalando

Lmaoooo yup ICE engines just don’t feel as nice and you have to go way up market in price to get the type of acceleration you get with electric.

Eddagosp

Tesla was always unreasonable. You don't buy a stock at the value that it **might** be in 5 to 10 years. You'll just be stuck holding the bag for 5 to 10 years. Retail regards started valuing the stock for its *potential* to displace ICE (gas) vehicle market share with EV instead of its *current* manufacturing capabilities. Like going back to 2020 and buying BTC at 100k instead of 10k because "that's what it'll be worth in 5 years." Your prediction ***might*** be correct, but 6 years later you're -40k instead of +50k.

Best-Home-2230

Okay so the media called him deporter in chief, now again I ask you to show me the YouTube videos of the left wing protests during that time frame holding rallies and showing up to interfere with ICE. You're actually proving my point the left wing protests over this was not about some moral stance about deportation because they could have cared less then no matter what the media said about Obama's border policies. If you only become outraged at the policy when someone with the R near their name is doing it you're outraged is fake.

GestapoKittech

My man, are you dumb? They called him the "deporter-in-chief". Will you believe Fox News? [https://www.foxnews.com/politics/may-day-rallies-target-immigration-reform-and-obamas-deportation-rate](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/may-day-rallies-target-immigration-reform-and-obamas-deportation-rate) Or maybe The Guardian? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/23/democrats-call-on-obama-to-end-deportation-raids-on-women-and-children](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/23/democrats-call-on-obama-to-end-deportation-raids-on-women-and-children) How about PBS? [https://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/headlines/obama-administration-appeals-immigration-reform-to-supreme-court/](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/headlines/obama-administration-appeals-immigration-reform-to-supreme-court/) NBC News? [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/arizona-immigration-activists-block-streets-protest-n598016](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/arizona-immigration-activists-block-streets-protest-n598016) MPR News, from 2010 [https://www.mprnews.org/story/2010/07/01/midmorning4](https://www.mprnews.org/story/2010/07/01/midmorning4) Don't act like it wasn't happening. The reason you didn't see them being shot by ICE is because ICE wasn't as militarized as they are now, dummy.

GestapoKittech

You know people protested the treatment of undocumented immigrants under Obama, right? There were court cases, Obama lost, and ICE was forced to change how they operated. That is all easily discoverable if you cared to look, but instead you just want to repeat what your favorite talking head told you. And your whole "You didn't protest Obama, so I'm going to support Trump who is worse" line of logic is fucking stupid.

Wows_Nightly_News

ICE?

RockmanMike

When he has access to nuclear weapons, drones, and all 3 branches of the military and is actually in the process of bombing them, yeah, he's just "tAlKiNg OuT oF hIs DuMb AsS..." On top of using ICE as brown shirts... You seriously can't be that dumb, right?

eyerollingsex

ICE shootings don’t do numbers anymore People just stopped caring

Best-Home-2230

No you wouldn't just like you didn't care when Obama had kids in cages and was deporting people for no other reason than being here illegally. Just like Trump. You guys can all thumbs me down to cope with the rage of hearing the truth but this nonsense is why I went from being a blue across the board voter to an anyone but blue voter. If it wasn't for double standards you guys would have no standards at all. Feel free to prove me wrong though and show me footage of the massive no kings rallies and activists interfering with ICE agents during the years Obama was deporting people for the exact same reason Trump was. You weren't angry because he had the (D) near his name on ballots. Just like you weren't angry when gas went over 4.00 under Biden but outraged when it happened under Trump. A pretentious cult I'm glad to have finally moved on from.

EntropyAccount

Meanwhile Trump just moves pecies on a a map and says “we attack here”, tarrif this country, ICE can do whatever it wants 😆. Cannabis to S3, wooh wooh, we need hearings, and reviews, and Congress, and then… and then…

OrdinaryMix4013

HOLY SHIT. trump trying to bury the ICE shotttting another civilian story by putting a 20% tax on the straight lmao

prestodigitarium

EVs are much simpler than ICE engines, that’s why China went hard on them, it was an opportunity to get to the front of the pack due to the sea change, because they could make the rest of it more cheaply than anyone else. The counterpoint is that they still can’t make competitive jet engines because the decades of materials science is hard to compress the timelines on. Remains to be seen, but they might have a similarly hard time speeding up starship-class orbital fully reusable rockets.

Awkward-Winner-99

Idk for sure if Chinese ICE cars suck but they do sell really well in China still

creepy_doll

Making electric engines is a lot easier than ICE. Also the batteries are the largest chunk of an electric car, and that part china did master while manufacturing for tesla etc. The precision machining equipment for making modern ICE engines is really quite impressive. I think ICE engines are cool as hell(imagine harnessing the power of explosions to such precision), but it doesn't make sense for china to try to get better at that. They're developing the infrastructure for EV's and they don't need to spend all the money on getting their ICE tech up to scratch.

Charming_Raccoon4361

we need the ICE here

Familiar-Suspect730

For oil research, I try to separate the headline from the actual supply-demand data. Geopolitical events can move prices quickly, but the long-term direction usually comes down to barrels, inventories, demand, and spare capacity. The sources I find most useful are: - EIA (U.S. Energy Information Administration) – excellent for production, inventory, and U.S./global market data. - IEA Oil Market Report – one of the best sources for global supply, demand, and trade flow analysis. - OPEC Monthly Oil Market Report – useful for producer-side data and forecasts. - CME/ICE futures data – helps understand what the market is pricing in. For situations like the Strait of Hormuz, I would focus less on media headlines and more on: 1. Actual tanker flows and export volumes. 2. Global inventory changes. 3. Spare production capacity. 4. Refinery capacity and product markets. 5. Whether demand is strong enough to absorb higher prices. The market can sometimes look irrational because prices are forward-looking. If traders believe a disruption will be temporary, prices may not react as much as the headline suggests. The key is identifying whether the disruption changes the long-term supply-demand balance or is only a short-term shock. The IEA Oil Market Report is probably the best starting point because it combines supply, demand, inventories, and trade analysis in one place.

Dalewyn

> Other than a handful of tiny petro-states, which countries do you imagine Americans believe are wealthier than the US? The answer is none. A plumber in Missouri has a higher take-home pay than a doctor in Germany. The rest of the world is NOT pulling ahead of the US in terms of wealth. It is crazy when Trump goes on rants about how other countries are ripping us off while the typical American is financially so far ahead of the rest of the world. The problem is for how "wealthy" you argue we supposedly are the commons universally agree inflation is rampant, pay is stagnant, and overall their work is not valued as evidenced by the furor of the so-called Rust Belt. As a guy once told Clinton: "It's the economy, stupid!" Harris got crucified in her election for arguing the economy was great and Trump won on the argument that we are getting milked dry. We are not wealthy, at least not by measures accepted by the common American. >I have met exactly zero Americans who think any other country is more militarily powerful. I doubt even most Russians are that delusional. Funny you say Russians are delusional, because I sincerely think Americans who truly believe we are the most powerful military force on the planet are the absolute epitome of delusional. A gold medal in mental gymnastics can't reconcile "most powerful" with "lose every single war". >That defeatist attitude of "we can't make anything anymore" is pure propaganda. Where do you think F35's are made? Or 3D printers? How about Tesla EVs and SpaceX rockets? You want my honest, brutal answer? China. We can "make" literally nothing if China elects to embargo exports of rare earths and other materials necessary for all those high end commodities. Who do you think makes the batteries in those Teslas? BYD. Where do you think all that lithium is mined from? China. Who and where do you think all those electronics components used in an F-35 come from? ~~USA~~China with "Made In USA" stamps. There is a reason the US folded literally overnight once China fired back with trade embargoes in our shortlived tariff trade war. As Trump once told Zelensky: ~~You~~We don't hold the cards. >Trump hasn't taken a government stake in businesses engaged in rolling out rural broadband or Warpspeed, and a good number of the ones he did take a stake in did not take CHIPS Act money. You're right, and we should have taken equity in return. It's too late to do that for them now, but going forward we can and should take equity for every single tax dollar that is spent in the commercial sector. >Here's a radical idea: if you think businesses are wasting tax payer dollars, how about you stop giving them taxpayer dollars? This "socialism is inevitable" stuff is far left drivel. It wasn't socialism that made America great and becoming socialist isn't going to do us any favors. I absolutely agree. Our budget is broken, slashing the expenses must include terminating all manners of tax dollars currently being funneled to businesses, universities, et al.. These are not luxuries we can afford anymore. >Were you under the impression that Africa, the Middle East, and Asia did not have wars before the US came along? I assure you, they did. Look at actual data. The WORLD is at its most peaceful time in hundreds of years. Peaceful is relative, not absolute. It has ticked up in recent years, mostly because Putin invaded Ukraine, which had nothing to do with the US. They did have wars and yes we've made them worse. We should not forget that Iran is the way they are now thanks to the CIA. 9/11 happened because we keep fucking other people's shit up. The world is absolutely not peaceful but that lack of peace can improve by removing American bullshit from the international stage. As an aside: We absolutely had a part in Putin invading Ukraine. Why? Two things: We toppled a pro-Russia government in Ukraine and made Ukraine a non-nuclear state. Both things contributed to Putin choosing to warmonger and we must and will pay our part of the bill when it comes due. >They were free to come and go, not slaves. The "legal" farm workers are more akin to slaves today than were the illegal farm workers. ... As it pertains to productive contributions to society, the only difference between "criminal" farm labor and "legal" farm labor is a piece of government paper. Whether they are legal or illegal, the pressure on wages is the same, housing is the same, medical services required is the same. Therefore, your position is that it is productive employment itself that is the detrimental problem for society. And, you failed basic economics. Illegal aliens literally do not have a right to and should not be present in the country at all, they absolutely induce negative pressures on society that would not exist otherwise. The extent you go to try and justify modern day slavery is appalling. >Collective rights which exceed individual rights are authoritarian nonsense. Individuals have rights. Groups of individuals cannot have rights which exceed that of the individuals which comprise the group. You, as an individual, do not have the right to restrict me from inviting whomever I want to live and work on my property. An individual's right to freedom does not preclude a sovereign right to restrict their entry. Much like you have the right to refuse an individual from entering your property. Illegally crossing the border is akin to breaking into a house, it is not acceptable. If you can't even through the front door, don't be surprised to find your ass thrown right back out. >Governments have the power to restrict immigration. Governments do not have rights. You do not know what sovereign rights even are. >Illegal entry is also part of the game. If you don't like it, you can work to change the rules so that they don't have to wait 25 years and then will find it easier to go through the legal process. Illegal entry is not part of the game, cheating is never acceptable. If a guy is told he cannot enter, he cannot enter. Why the fuck do I even need to spell this out to you? >It is, though. The president is not a king and the federal government cannot dictate to states what they must or must not do beyond as allowed for in the Constitution. Border security is a federal affair that concerns all states, particularly those with land and sea borders. All states are at least required to not inhibit enforcement of federal laws lest they are violating the very mutual understanding holding the union together. >Congress writes the laws describing what funding is allocated to the states and under what conditions. A president cannot just unilaterally change the law and withhold funding because he doesn't like something entirely unrelated that the states are doing. The president has to follow federal law. Congress dictates how federal dollars will be spent, the President is tasked with spending. Trump has proven the President can choose to not spend as directed because Congress can't force that particular issue, and may the court enforce itself as Andrew Jackson once said. Like it or not and for better or worse, the Executive Branch holds the sole power to execute. >No one is talking about refusing to enforce the law. Except you are. If we are a country following the principle of rule of law that includes enforcing federal immigration laws as they stand right now. That includes securing the border, arresting and deporting illegal aliens, and punishing businesses who employ illegal labor. ICE, CBP, and other federal law enforcement like the FBI are tasked with enforcing federal immigration laws. Refusing to cooperate is at best belligerent and resisting as was the case in Minnesota is a straight rejection of rule of law. What even is the point of having a country at that point?

xghtai737

> Any reasonable common American will vehemently disagree, because "wealthy" as in sky high debts and market capitalizations does not translate to wealth as the commons understand it. Definitely not the most powerful either, we're the weakest because we quite literally haven't won a single war yet this century and lost most of our wars in the last one. Other than a handful of tiny petro-states, which countries do you imagine Americans believe are wealthier than the US? The answer is none. A plumber in Missouri has a higher take-home pay than a doctor in Germany. The rest of the world is NOT pulling ahead of the US in terms of wealth. It is crazy when Trump goes on rants about how other countries are ripping us off while the typical American is financially so far ahead of the rest of the world. Look at the data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_capita_income#Disposable_income_per_capita_of_households_and_NPISH_(OECD) I have met exactly zero Americans who think any other country is more militarily powerful. I doubt even most Russians are that delusional. Militarily defeating our enemies has never been a problem. Politicians sometimes assign political objectives which cannot be achieved by military means. You ought to know the difference. > In case you missed it, all our "high end" commodities are coming from Asia namely China and Taiwan with some Malaysia. We can't make anything anymore low or high, and that fact has been brutally denied as we continue to become increasingly incapable of seemingly the most simplest things. iPhones and Nvidia GPUs aren't American products, they're Chinese and Taiwanese products respectively. That defeatist attitude of "we can't make anything anymore" is pure propaganda. Where do you think F35's are made? Or 3D printers? How about Tesla EVs and SpaceX rockets? IPhones and NVIDIA chips are designed in the US. And TSMC builds the chips with machines built in Europe - with components made in the US. Example: (American) Zygo corporation makes the high end optics and mirrors which go into (Netherlands) ASML's EUV Lithography machines which (Taiwan) TSMC uses to make the chips which are designed by (American) NVIDIA. Some - not a complete list - of other American companies which TSMC relies on are: Air Products, Applied Materials, Lam Research, KLA Corp, Cadence, Synopsis, Amkor Technology, and Teradyne. And you completely ignored the fact that unemployment is very low while real wages have continued to rise. > We will not return to a successful society if we cannot return to a productive economy. We still are a successful society and we still have a productive economy. Stop navel gazing. > Being a service economy means We service the productive economies. He who makes rules the world. I've just listed a bunch of technologically advanced products that the US produces. Your claim that service economies are trash is without foundation. > It is an inevitable solution to the constant problem that businesses simply take our taxes and waste them away. Rural broadband is by far the most infamous example, and others like CHIPS and Project Warpspeed. If businesses will not make our taxes spent worth our while, the only way to resolve that is by taking their equity at governmental gunpoint. Businesses poisoned the well, they can now drink from it while the taxpayers finally have something to show for their tax dollars. Trump hasn't taken a government stake in businesses engaged in rolling out rural broadband or Warpspeed, and a good number of the ones he did take a stake in did not take CHIPS Act money. Here's a radical idea: if you think businesses are wasting tax payer dollars, how about you stop giving them taxpayer dollars? This "socialism is inevitable" stuff is far left drivel. It wasn't socialism that made America great and becoming socialist isn't going to do us any favors. > The upside is the definitive end of Pax Americana which at this point causes more problems than it gives benefits. Yes, problems like... no more world wars and having among the highest standards of living in the world. > the world has faced constant wars and disturbances to the peace to this day. When you say "we" are in our most peaceful time you do not realize "we" only includes the West. The West is resented in regions like Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia ... Were you under the impression that Africa, the Middle East, and Asia did not have wars before the US came along? I assure you, they did. Look at actual data. The WORLD is at its most peaceful time in hundreds of years. Peaceful is relative, not absolute. It has ticked up in recent years, mostly because Putin invaded Ukraine, which had nothing to do with the US. But, the rate of deaths from wars started dropping when the US took over after WW2 and by world history standards was very low by 2000. > The world will be better off nearly instantly with Pax Americana over, if not necessarily the US and probably the West at large. Spoken like a true Russian. > We as a society have set certain standards for human labor because anything less is inhumane, and despite that you are essentially saying that "Slavery is fine because the slaves are happy." They were free to come and go, not slaves. The "legal" farm workers are more akin to slaves today than were the illegal farm workers. And those standards you are touting were sharply weakened by Trump. Look it up. H2-A guest worker program. The minimum wage was set by the federal government, Trump sharply reduced it, while also removing anti-retaliation protections, safety standards, and so forth. > Criminal labor fueled by illegal aliens causes downward pressure on compensation for legal employment and hosts of other problems on housing and medical services that are stressing our society to its breaking point. They do not benefit our society in aggregate. As it pertains to productive contributions to society, the only difference between "criminal" farm labor and "legal" farm labor is a piece of government paper. Whether they are legal or illegal, the pressure on wages is the same, housing is the same, medical services required is the same. Therefore, your position is that it is productive employment itself that is the detrimental problem for society. And, you failed basic economics. > "Open borders" does not mean literally open borders free-for-all. While their literal physical forms have changed throughout human history, every country and more broadly every society in history has controlled who goes in and out of their borders in some form at all points in time. You are wrong. The US literally had open borders prior to the 1875 Page Act, which was basically just on Chinese. There were no federal immigration laws prior to that. That was just as radical of an experiment in freedom then as it would be today. Some ports of entry run by states collected what amounted to a tax for entry, but there were plenty of places which did not even do that. There were citizenship restrictions right from the beginning, but not immigration restrictions. > Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Noone has a right to enter another country willy nilly, every country reserves their sovereign right to accept or deny entrants at their own discretion and frankly for any reason whatsoever. Collective rights which exceed individual rights are authoritarian nonsense. Individuals have rights. Groups of individuals cannot have rights which exceed that of the individuals which comprise the group. You, as an individual, do not have the right to restrict me from inviting whomever I want to live and work on my property. You cannot gain that right by joining with a group of your friends and declaring that you have such a right. Governments have the *power* to restrict immigration. Governments do not have rights. > If a guy from Mexico or the Philippines is told to wait 25 years to maybe enter the country and immigrate, that's the game. He can take it or leave it. "I don't like that, I'm just gonna enter illegally." is not acceptable. Illegal entry is also part of the game. If you don't like it, you can work to change the rules so that they don't have to wait 25 years and then will find it easier to go through the legal process. > The problem is deliberately refusing to cooperate with federal law enforcement, and in extreme cases like Minnesota where federal law enforcement is outright resisted, is not in any way acceptable. It is, though. The president is not a king and the federal government cannot dictate to states what they must or must not do beyond as allowed for in the Constitution. > States and municipalities don't want to enforce federal laws? Alright, fine. But don't get in the way of federal law enforcement, and don't be surprised if the federal government subsequently has second thoughts about federal aid you might be receiving. Congress writes the laws describing what funding is allocated to the states and under what conditions. A president cannot just unilaterally change the law and withhold funding because he doesn't like something entirely unrelated that the states are doing. The president has to follow federal law. > Refusing to enforce the law by definition denies the rule of law. No one is talking about refusing to enforce the law. But, not all branches of government are tasked with enforcing every law. ICE is not going to investigate burglaries in Minnesota because doing so is out of their jurisdiction. Similarly, local police do not have an obligation to enforce federal law. A separation of powers prevents too much power from accumulating in one person.

vandalizethethief

He has made almost no ROE at Tesla. Almost all profits come from government mandated tex credit programs. These were all 100% margin that ICE manufacturers would pay Tesla to offset excess emissions. No more credits, no more profits. Just poorly built and obscenely priced vehicles that have a stigma attached to them now. Somehow, he kept this going for a decade and during the years everyone was like "Musk is the Greatest! He is saving our planet and shooting to take it to Mars." All while making grandiose claims that he founded Tesla, bought bankrupt Solar City from his brother, called a cave rescuer a pedo & numerous other lies

Weak_Emu3659

Call ICE on them

fomoandyoloandnogrow

ICE gonna turn Texas blue. Such insanity

gethereddout

Nothing I’ve said is inconsistent. Your arguments, on the other hand, are in bad faith. You act like you care about laws, yet support the most lawless president we’ve ever had. A literal criminal, a convicted rapist who was spared prison by taking the Presidency. Local police and ICE are different agencies. There is no impediment by disallowing local police to do ICE’s gestapo work for them. People who deserve Visas are being denied constantly- you don’t know that because are not ingesting honest information. You talk about our borders. The nation you hold so sacred. You know we stole it right? What’s actually sacred, and what’s actually worth having pride in, is our democracy. But fascists like you are throwing it all away just to be racist. We don’t have an immigration problem, we have a christian nationalist, white supremacist problem. And people like you are pretending that’s not your goal, but we can see clearly now that it is. Just look at what ya’ll are doing- this is fascism.

pseudonominom

The DOJ has subpoenaed Reddit to get user identities specifically because they’re critical of Trump. Are you not paying attention to what’s been happening? ICE is building prisons ten times the size of the illegal immigrant population. Connect the dots, man.

jxkxs

Buy Tesla. Gas prices up to increase Tesla sales. ICE agents sending illegals back so their jobs can be taken by Tesla robots. Telsa robots eventually end up in homes. Every guy will buy one so their wives can give orders to something that has to listen.

AdIndependent3751

Minnesotans be like: No more Mr. ICE guy

Medium_Beautiful_721

Quietly stopped all those heinous ICE raids before midterms

jeunpeun99

ICE did kill citizens, installed by orange man?

WickOfDeath

ICE was clearly the invention of the republican party. American GESTAPO.

DanceMyth4114

Last time a car manufacturer did this, a governor had ICE raid them and arrested dozens of people who were here legally.

undystains

Nah, probably just threatened to send a couple hundred ICE agents down on the US FIFA stadiums.

Sufficient-Skill9530

This is going to be a fairly meaty post… China inexplicably stopped importing somewhere around 5M-6M barrels per day and have left their refineries sit idle since about the time that Trump visited Xi earlier this year. If I were a betting man, which in a sense I am because I am holding predominantly Canadian heavy crude producers, I suspect that Trump made a deal with China that involved an exchange for influence over Taiwan. If you had to ask me about timing, I don’t think China will hold off imports until midterms and instead Trump asked them to postpone refinery runs until after July 4. Trump’s a two bit flimflam man and the 250 celebration is his big show. I think there is incontrovertible evince that Trump and Bessent are tag teaming oil futures… The key number from the WTI Physical contract: - Non-commercial longs: 360,524 contracts. Non-commercial shorts: 230,223 contracts. Commercial longs: 919,786. Commercial shorts: 1,090,512. The concentration data is the really interesting part: - For WTI on ICE, just 4 or fewer traders hold 35.2% of all short open interest. Eight or fewer traders hold 48.5% of all short open interest. - The CFTC knows who the 4 traders are holding 35% of short interest — but won't publish it. The SEC enforcement chief quit rather than drop cases touching Trump's circle and the CFTC chair is a Trump appointee. - There’s no other way to explain both WTI and Brent being in contango during the greatest energy supply shock in history without it being a coordinated institutional short.  Here’s some more salient info.. - SPR at 340.3M barrels — lowest since July 1983 - 412M barrel coordinated release across 32 nations — sovereign governments confessing physical shortage in real time, not traders being bearish - Global stockpiles drew at a record 4.8 mb/d while prices returned to pre-war levels — the arithmetic doesn't reconcile with "demand destruction explains it" - US distillate/gasoline stocks at multi-decade lows, Cushing near operational minimum; US domestic low prices cannot be explained by Hormuz dark-fleet uncertainty - The SPR release was structured as an exchange (repay 2026–2029 at 18–24% premium)  - Some loaded tankers have left Hormuz, but you can check Rory Johnston twitter posts for daily tanker movement and there’s been nothing out close to prewar traffic nor anything close to balancing the 1.5B barrel deficit  - Brookings calculates all global supply buffers (Russian/Iranian floating storage, IEA releases) exhaust by July 9 — almost exactly when the August WTI contract expires (July 22) - War is still a slow boil; Israel is still in Lebanon, and recently attacked Syria; there’s was also some shit that went down in the Iraq green zone near the US consulate that no one seems to be talking about - Oh, and Russia is getting around 1M barrel per day less out from all the Ukraine attacks which alone would justify some risk premium  - Considering all of this, WTI and Brent are basically flat from where they were before the war started and Exxon is trading at mid-January prices  Sources below… Positioning reports…  - https://research.titanfx.com/cftc/cot-nyoil Look below under “concentration of positions”…  - https://www.cftc.gov/MarketReports/CommitmentsofTraders/index.htm Current contract contango…  - https://commoplast.com/news/details/19356/#:~:text=This%20shift%20confirms%20a%20near,and%20%2480%20by%20year%2Dend. Also, this is an article from three months ago about Japan considering shorting oil to stabilize the Yen… - https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-shifts-focus-oil-unorthodox-scramble-talk-up-yen-2026-03-26/ This is all to say, oil prices do not make sense at the around or below $70. You can tell by the refining crack spread where refineries are making almost $70 overtop of the crude price. That’s insane. The crack spread to turn a barrel of oil into product is basically as much as the barrel of crude itself. All of these anomalies scream to me that Trump panicked about high gas prices interfering with his big 250 celebration and made a deal with China about the future of Taiwan.  There’s some undeniable facts, but a lot of my reasoning is admittedly circumstantial. 

Livid-Grocery7942

Geez by the way some of you are acting as if I was the one destroying the environment personally, you’d probably freak out if you learned I’m long on GEO and CXW because they work with ICE and their guaranteed funding through 2028 because of the reconciliation bill that passes a month and a half ago. I’m up over 10% there there in a that time 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

HardradaTheKing

You could pick sectors that are down. This way you spread the risks over multiple stocks in a sector you deem good to hold for a couple of years. My advise would be to look at healthcare, financials and software. Also think about buying some CBOE, ICE or CME as a volatility hedge. If you wanna get more spicy, pick a small amount of AI infrastructure stocks like Marvell, Coherent, Arista or Credo. Safer AI would be Nvidia; since it is getting cheaper by the quarter. Stocks go up and down, but when in doubt: zoom out.

Soffatjockis

Yay! What are we celebrating? Elon hitting trillionaire? ICE? Mango earning 2.2 Bn during his presidency? War in iran? Israel? All of the above?

Own-Wolverine-5361

Careful. ICE monitoring this shit

WickOfDeath

every country has it's burden, it's benefits and it's average tax rate. If I am in the upper mid class my average tax and contributions for health and pension are up to 50% regardless in which country I am living in. Some countries have a clearly uneven distribution of wealth. And each country gets what it deserves... you can decide by yourself if Trump is a benefit or a burden, but 50.01% elected him and 100% of all citiizens inside of the USA and 50% of all citizens outside of the USA have to live with that what he thinks is "art of the deal". What I clearly distate is the exuberation you have in the USA, if you are against something you arent just "the other side", they declare you as an extremist, as an enemy of the nation, and if you are so unfortunate that one of your parents is an immigrant they send the ICE and carry that parent away...

BlackKnightsOptions

Yeah ICE this one right here

mm_newsletter

Makes sense. They already have the facilities, compliance history, and contracts. That matters when the government suddenly needs beds fast. But I think this whole trade depends on contract timing, politics, and whether ICE keeps leaning on the existing operators or pushes more warehouse-style capacity elsewhere.

Scary-Bobcat-9444

When your ADHD and head injury become so severe that you can't even get your ADHD medication and have wasted three plane tickets... Seriously, does Canada have ICE? Who can deport me? I'll pay you.

confused_teabagger

There are jobs if you are H1b enough or if you work in low-level health care or if you can speak spanish and want a job with ICE.

creemeeseason

It might be debt for ICE, but the whole sector is getting crushed. Even low debt names like CME and MIAX are massively down. The selloff really got going when new competition was announced in Bitcoin futures, so I'm guessing it's more competitive concerns with AI making new markets possible.

Sufficient_Habit5091

The threat to ICE is not AI. It's very high debt levels, perps and potential changes to regulation that could squeeze margins.

creemeeseason

Both ICE and CPRT getting really interesting here, both charts are terrible though. ICE around 15-16x forward (depending where you get your data) seems like a steal unless you think they get destroyed by AI.

unclefire

ICE cores sampled for trapped gasses.

halfpastnein

you bring that up but don't mention he's a sucker for ICE? https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitter/s/6FjzKsOr0H

crazyj140

You should take your own advice and do what any “decent” person would do and go volunteer for ICE.

Herny_

And concludes that “any decent person” would volunteer for ICE… rough

theSherlockView

Started off with raise at 54, then there was a sector wide sell off due to US allowing competition on perpetuals for bitcoin i think. I think the suggestion was it could grow to other sectors causing CME/ICE to sell off hard. But I think Abaxx got caught up in it even though their business model is different. Focusing on physically settled futures + new T+0 tech for 24/7 trading. Then the short report hit, if you read it, you would see how terrible it was. They make up financials, and they don't even know how futures contracts work. Abaxx responded with hiring lawyers. But the report did its job, people panic sold causing further drops. Then I think it lead to people selling thinking they will just by back lower and trade this. Eventually there is a lower limit. I think its close to around that but its impossible to know. Seems like shorts haven't covered at all yet. If they start, then everyone panic selling will probably fomo back in. I have heard fidelity family office has been adding on these dips as well

street-trash

Nope. They are talking about "tearing down wall" between church and state. Trump personal army of masked goons, ICE has gone dark but they are still growing and are receiving tens of billions more in funding. Trump is playing some sort of long game to try and steal the mid-terms over a national emergency. The "Understanding" with Iran has been anything but, and now we are bombing each other again. And republicans just seem to accept anything the guy says or does over the long run. They are even defending his statements about someone slicing a 300 foot gash in the reflecting pool with a strong knife.

sanduskyjack

Well Trump doesn’t understand math, or common words used in the US. He never stops talking, and supposedly writing on Truth Social is non stop. Of course, Truth Social was went public in March 2024 with an $8 billion valuation. By mid-2026, the company's valuation hovered around $2.8 billion, and shares of the stock have experienced significant drops throughout the year. Everything Trump works on is either illegal or an absolute failure. How any American could Trump him simply shows our education system is a program. Here’s a list of only some of his failures. **Reducing the** [**minimum wage**](https://www.epi.org/blog/trumps-blatant-attack-on-workers-you-may-not-have-heard-about-cutting-the-wages-of-nearly-half-a-million-workers/) **for nearly 400,000 federal contractors:** President Trump rescinded an executive order that increased the minimum wage for federal contractors to $15 per hour in 2022 and indexed it to inflation. The minimum hourly wage for federal contractors had reached $17.75 by the time he eliminated the policy.  **Stopping** [**enforcement of misclassification protections**](https://www.epi.org/policywatch/department-of-labor-delays-defense-of-independent-contractor-rule/) **for workers illegally classified as independent contractors:** This [robs workers](https://www.epi.org/publication/misclassifying-workers-2025-update/) of minimum wage, overtime, workers’ compensation, and other basic rights.  **Finalizing an** [**interim final rule**](https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/10/02/2025-19365/adverse-effect-wage-rate-methodology-for-the-temporary-employment-of-h-2a-nonimmigrants-in-non-range) **that will radically cut the wages of all farm workers:** The rule reduces the minimum wages paid to migrant farm workers in the H-2A program and deducts up to 30% of their hourly pay for housing costs. These wage cuts for H-2A workers are so massive that they will put downward pressure on the wages of *all* farm workers, including U.S. citizens. Farm workers as a whole will lose between $4.4 to $5.4 billion in pay—roughly 10% to 12% of their total wages. The Trump administration [admitted](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/10/11/immigration-crackdown-food-prices/)that their immigration enforcement efforts are hurting farmers and will likely lead to higher food prices—an admission they use to justify the pay cuts. **Denying 2 million in-home health care workers minimum wage and overtime pay:** In July, the Trump administration [proposed a rule rescinding](https://www.epi.org/publication/epis-comments-on-dols-proposed-rule-on-application-of-the-fair-labor-standards-act-to-domestic-service/) the 2013 home health care worker rule, which gave in-home care workers the right to earn the minimum wage and overtime pay for the first time. The Department of Labor also [stopped enforcing](https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/WHD/fab/fab2025-4.pdf) the 2013 rule, effectively giving employers the green light to ignore it during the rollback process.  **Facilitating the** [**inclusion of cryptocurrencies**](https://www.epi.org/policywatch/department-of-labor-facilitates-inclusion-of-cryptocurrencies-among-401k-investment-options/) **among 401(k) investment options:** The Trump administration rescinded guidance that warned employers they would face heightened scrutiny if they included cryptocurrency investments in their retirement plans. This “neutral approach” to cryptocurrency, alongside other types of retirement investment strategies, could expose millions of future retirees to significant financial risk. ICE, ICE and more ICE>

azure275

He is the King because Congress decided to let him be the king Congress could roll back about 80% of what he's done with zero issue if they wanted to. Tariffs? Gone. ICE? They can put rules on funding. Elections? Easy to pass a law. Wars? They can revoke authority They have just consistently chosen to sit on their hands

Auwardamn

Well as of their Press Release on 6/21, they had 97M CAD in cash, and \~38.64M shares outstanding which puts them at **$2.51 CAD per share alone in pure cash, with no debt** (they can force conversion of their outstanding debenture. Then you have the fully licensed exchange and clearinghouse which has a 200M+ USD liquidation comp: See the Singapore Mercantile Exchange which sold for 150M USD to ICE in 2013, not inflation adjusted, losing $20M USD per year with 8.2K ADV... Abaxx ADV currently at 17.5K and rising quickly, with today being 44.7K contracts. 200M USD / 38.64M shares = $5.18 USD per share / .75 = $6.90 CAD per share Then you have the LabMag and KeMag deposits that are valued at literally zero on their books, but could reasonably fetch a distressed sale value of $100M USD if needed (not needed, which is why they sit around on the balance sheet until they can sell for much closer to 1B+ in a decade). 100M USD / 38.64 = $2.73 USD per share / .75 = $3.64 CAD per share So right there, you're looking at $2.51+$6.90+$3.64 = 13 CAD in book value alone. Maybe don't count on automated software to calculate a book value?

fire_alarmist

Bunch of mexicans blaring their mariachi music across the street and yelling while doing construction and having to look at this nonsense with that in the background is gunna make me crash out and call ICE on them ngl.

Little-Somewhere6076

[Intercontinental Exchange, Inc. (ICE) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance](https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/ICE/) The NYSE is explicitly not a privately held company. Its a publicly held company

abroadbroadband

Sometimes I forget we're supposed to talk about stocks here I am on THIN ICE with the mods 🫪

RelentlessPutz

If i came here to visit from a country where BBQ didn't exist.. bro I'm never going back.. ICE would have to hunt me down. How tf do you not have real slow cooked juicy saucey BBQ...

Odd_Junket_2926

Yeah, it's almost as bad as the US. The only thing missing over here is ICE, otherwise it would be just as bad.

tropicalia84

Small caps and TLT absolutely parabolic today Big money already has the PCE report for tomorrow and it’s ICE COLD

Nickel4me

I was driving the other day to a relatives house on Father’s Day. I COULD NOT believe how many cars were on the road. I recall 30yrs ago driving in the car with my parents during those times…so many more cars on the road now! Anyway, I bought $100K worth of Goodyear Tire (GT) on 6/19, leap calls…I cannot even recall expiry as I was too focused on how many cars with 4 wheels were on the road. Also threw in another $40 large on BP because so many cars are still ICE. Lol

Savagebabypig

Is this as regarded as the DD some other dude posted a year or so ago about buying Puts on Walmart cuz illegals liked to shop at Walmart and since the 🥭 administration was letting the ICE dogs out, Walmarts biggest consumer base would be gone

Proper_Jeweler_9238

I thought Elon already worked with ICE to remove aliens 🤢

CosmicQuantum42

Backing the dollar with gold is 100% the opposite of Trump’s agenda. You can say what you want about gold, but backing the dollar with it would stop US deficit spending in its tracks. Social Security and Medicare would fall apart immediately. Lots of government spending would be forcibly cut (including ICE) because the gold to cover it wouldn’t exist. Trump would be in a tiny powerless box with a gold standard, couldn’t even pay a lot of the military. He will not ever do this.

cripky

Hello ICE yes this one right here

bazkin6100

Electric cars were first built in 1800s, Ford had a prototype in 1914. It was just cheaper to go with ICE and there was a lack of organized investment. Comparing the comlexity of a data center in space to an electric car is bonkers