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Gotta imagine the people that post those big gains probably get their DMs flooded with people begging, sob stories or people trying to get them into some MLM investing club.
LLM MLM. Procedurally generated bossbabes. That's the end game.
LOL, yep, called it. This chick wanted to get back in touch with me to try to recruit me for an MLM.
Unfortunately it does sound like that. Send her some anti-MLM materials and wish her the best
Some girl I haven't talked to in nearly 5 years messaged me out of the blue saying she wants to catch up and tell me all about the new job she's got. This is gonna be an MLM thing isn't it?
Doing my ROAD DD and I'm interested. I love me a vertically integrated company and roll-up strategies always tickle my fancy (c'mon, do something meme at KPG.AX). Biggest x factor right now is the BUILD America 250 Act which almost certainly won't be passed by Sept 30 when the IIJA expires so a 2-6 month stopgap extension is almost a lock. I can't imagine congress would let funding for the Highway Trust Fund lapse but this is also the dumbest congress in history, just surpassing the previous version, so who the fuck knows. Oil supply shocks directly affects ROAD's expenses since liquid asphalt cement is roughly 30% of the cost of finished hot mix asphalt but publicly funded projects include escalator clauses so not too much exposure there for ROAD. Privately funded projects leave more exposure on ROAD though. Publicly funded projects are >60% of ROAD's revenue but that still leaves 30-40% in the private realm. It's not like we have constant oil spikes happening though, right? Right? One thing I really love is the growth in reclaimed asphalt pavement. According to the National Asphalt Pavement Association's most recent survey, the industry recycled over 101MM tons of RAP in 2024, which apparently is a near 100% reuse rate, which led to industry-wide savings for $4.7B in material costs. ROAD owns their own stockpile of RAP and, being vertically integrated, are best positioned to capture these savings. Organic growth has been solid with FY25 at 8.4%, FY24 at 7.0%, and FY23 at 8.7%. Valuation doesn't feel too stretch at 16.1 EV/EBITDA. Competitors like VMC (16.7), MLM (17.2), and STRL (21.1) are higher. Management's long-term goal is their ROAD 2030 plan which targets >$6B in revenue and \~17% EBITDA margins, built with 7-8% organic growth plus "continued disciplined acquisitions. By my math, if they do 7.5% organic growth annually, they would need \~9% growth from acquisitions annually to hit $6B by 2030. Considering their acquisitive growth was \~11% in 2019 following by 19%, 11%, 10%, and 46% in 2025, I think 9% annually is doable. I think the biggest question is whether than can do 7-8% organic growth annually. I guess that isn't an issue though if they keep adding 10-50% in acquisition growth. On the acquisition front, goodwill has predictably jumped from $38.5MM in 2020 to $943MM in 2025. Risk of impairment is real. Will keep reading on the company and the industry but definitely adding it to my Buy? watchlist. It's behind [TBBB](https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1vhvu9w/comment/p2as70c/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) in terms of how interested I am but it's still near the top. CC u/ptexpat since you wanted to know where I land on this one.
Isnt it crazy how much the reddit cultists SEETH when someone mentions this dude lol. They cant STAND having a living, breathing icon ruining their ponzi, cultist, MLM tier market house of cards L0L
You realize locking out an ever increasingly large pool of people from the market isnt a good strategy when you are basically in an MLM or Enron structure where you absolutely need more and more greater fools to step in and baghold right? Lol
As a Korean, theres a reason why gambling is banned for the most part in Korea. I’m not sure if its something that Koreans are predisposed to, but god damn A LOT of koreans have a “fuck it, it only takes one mentality.” Koreans also get swayed so easily by “easy wealth” propaganda - so many are involved in MLM or worse cults. I think theres a stat where the most amount of Christian cults per capita is Korea. Absolutely insane
Calling social security a ponzi scheme is hilarious. Fuck it, why not blame our parents for roping us into this massive MLM we call life? You kids crack me up
Most of their sales are MLM associates overstocking. They push hard to stock up on crap that has minimal resale potential, and run schemes to squeeze every last dime out of their sales chain. Their model do serious harm to wannabe woman entrepreneurs.
Is this an MLM for bros?
Tom Lee is working the fryer. Dan Ives at register. Michael Burry is accosting people at the door pitching a new MLM scheme (or whole life insurance) to former classmates he hasn’t seen in years that now have a family while he’s still “hustling”
He has the aura of a MLM influencer.
It's time to move on. The squeeze is over. It went up over 100% in just a few weeks from the middle of May to the beginning of June. That was the squeeze. The shorts who are still holding on are not sweating at all. They're shorting a shady company in decline. Its sales have declined over 20% Q/Q and a little over 10% Y/Y. Its cash on hand has decreased from $20M to $12M. Its margins have decreased. Sure, it's profitable, but barely: its profit margin is only 2.94%. As for what makes it a shady company, this is an MLM (something that on its own is suspicious) that does not have a good history. One time, the FDA even warned it for making false claims about its products. The false claims didn't stop afterwards. For example, there's no strong evidence that Protandim, one of its major products, meaningfully helps people, and yet high ranking distributors in LFVN have made outlandish claims and implications over the past few years like it can lengthen your life by 7% and that it can help with COVID (source: [https://www.statnews.com/2023/09/08/lifevantage-health-misinformation-protandim](https://www.statnews.com/2023/09/08/lifevantage-health-misinformation-protandim) ).
although the mathematical setup has been interesting, the company is genuinely trash. they're an MLM selling snake oil. I only ever really thought there was potential because of reddit hype. unfortunately trash stocks pop all the time so no way to know for sure lol
It’s funny that you say that because LFVN (this subreddit’s favorite stock right now) is an actual MLM.
This sub is like a MLM. Buy in, recruit as many as you can, profit. Those who don’t get in early are left pushing weird colored leggings, overpriced vitamins, etc
nah the OF link is a wendy's job app(funny as hell). it might turn into one in the future. but atm all signs point to a joke account, but it may be to drive engagement for a future change to some kind of promotion(OF, MLM, substack, etc).
personally yes, absolutely i think it will drop after the squeeze or without it. this company is an MLM that sells snake oil. reddit's excitement is their only chance, but i do that that may be enough for a squeeze. but i am a gme bagholder so take all this with a grain of shit
I’m no fan of MLM anyway so no reason to hold LFVN any longer. I’m tied up this week but next week I’m going to be looking at PCT. Not a squeeze potential now, may be never but I like the business. Also, NTLA has high short interest and they are reporting at the EAACI scientific conference this weekend. I’m long but if there’s a good spike I am not married to it.
Quick answer, they sell health and wellness products using an MLM structure, think Herbalife. Their share structure makes it a good candidate for a short squeeze, at least that's what everyone here is hoping for.
The company itself is not why the stock is interesting. It's the short squeeze. In fact, the company being a mid-revenue MLM type company is likely the reason the shorts even shorted, which is how this play came into fruition at all.
What does that have to do with the short squeeze setup we are all going to make money on? I agree MLM is ick but it’s about numbers here not so much what they sell kr how they sell it.
It’s a literal pyramid scheme (MLM)
OP, just for the fun of it and out of irony I asked Claude (highest tier) to analyze this post and comments and give a fair assessment, here's the reply. In all honesty it's to advanced for me and I don't get it, but maybe it's valuable info for you: "LFVN squeeze thesis: separating the real from the fabricated Ran the numbers against primary sources (SEC, NASDAQ/FINRA, company filings). Some of the setup is real. A lot of the viral post is not. What checks out: Short interest is genuinely high: ~3.59M shares, roughly 30–40% of float depending on the denominator (8.9M float vs 12.6M shares out). Float is low (~8.9M) and the price run is real: ~$4.50 in early May to a high near $11.71 in early June. Borrow fee is elevated — triple digits is plausible for a hard-to-borrow micro-cap. What does NOT check out: "1.5M failures to deliver = 16.9% of float." False. SEC data shows recent FTDs peaked around 53,000 shares, not 1.5 million. Off by ~28x. "Alua Capital June 30 deadline to return capital." Alua is genuinely winding down its ~$2B fund, but its 13F is large-caps (Capital One, Amazon, SharkNinja). No evidence it ever held LFVN. The deadline-to-LFVN link is invented. "Capital Management owns 2.9M shares at $12.16." Filings show ~1.3–1.6M shares. No public source for the cost basis. The "$39M trapped losses / $218k a day / single entity at a fixed 271.40% rate" figures are back-of-envelope assumptions, not observable data. Short interest actually ticked DOWN from the prior settlement. Shorts are trimming, not piling in. The part nobody's pricing in: LifeVantage filed a $75M shelf registration in March, untapped so far. At squeeze-inflated prices, management has every incentive to issue stock — which caps upside and hands shorts a clean exit. That's the biggest structural reason a squeeze here is unlikely to hold. Fundamentals: Revenue down 25.2% YoY ($43.7M vs $58.4M). GLP-1 product sales down $9.6M. Consultant base shrinking. Lake Street rates it Hold with a $5 target — roughly 30–50% below current price. The shorts have a coherent thesis. Honest read: Real low-float momentum and short covering, layered on a declining MLM. Squeeze bull case is a spike to $13–$18 that probably doesn't stick. Base case is a fade to $5–$7. Not financial advice, just what the data says according to Claude."
i think the only part of them not being too good to be true is theyre a historically bad company. they've been an MLM and been accused of scamming by their distributors. theyve claimed to cure cancer and all sorts of woo woo bullshit. a class action was filed against them but didnt seem to go thru. maybe theyre on a turnaround with the new ceo and all but they have a really bad record. this is a technicals play in a lot of ways. i dont believe in the company as a whole. but i have bought shares and options in hopes of this squeeze
No, but let me guess, it's another shell company to keep the MLM scheme propped up?
I’m a former crypto bro. The luster has truly worn off. This is how they survive, hype. If a new hype crypto narrative doesn’t happen soon it will fall bad. Crypto is like MLM, a new generation is always game.
The amount of people trying to convince me to buy Ark in the last couple of months, makes it feel like an MLM scam. Sounds like many people's life savings have been plowed into ARKVX.
Why use a real GLP-1 when you can use the vibes based Lifevantage MindBody GLP-1 System™ All for the low price of $180/month Crazy how successful MLM schemes like HLF can be. The short thesis for Lifevantage is obvious, but one big buyer comes along and short sellers might panic. Accumulating with patience while shorts pay 1% of their position per trading day
I’m glad I got out. It produced good run and I took the profit and said bye. It’s an MLM right?
Can someone explain why a random MLM company is being hyped up here
There’s a couple of factors but for starters there’s a minimum market cap required to post about stocks here. The minimum is five hundred million and the crapshoot OP is peddling is 109 million. Second factor is that a squeeze needs some form of catalyst to start. Traditionally the catalyst is good news about the company’s outlook that shorts didn’t see coming. The stock OP is pushing is some snake oil company that “engages in the identification, research, development, formulation, and sale of advanced nutrigenomic activators, dietary supplements, nootropics” and has missed earnings over and over. Does that sound like some company with a revolutionary idea that’s gonna blow shorts away? No? Good. It sure sounds like a failing MLM scheme to me. Effectively OP is pushing this stock because there is no good news coming but sufficient buying pressure from internet tards could start to pump it anyway long enough for OP to unload bags on us.
LOL is that an MLM health product "manufacturer" that's bleeding money in Utah?
Although I agree that crypto is a form of pyramid/ponzi scheme, it is different in form from MLM's, which are much more cash flow based, rather than bubble based. It's actually most similar to the [Airplane Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airplane_game), in that it relies on earlier entrants cashing out in exchange for the money of new entrants, who then need to find a higher (total) amount of buy-in. Although really the airplane game is still more sustainable because it can have some branches die off as participants fail while others continue to propogate. Crypto is collectivized, even a passive holder benefits from the recruitment efforts of the people at the bottom, since the spreadsheet cells ("coins") are fungible. However this creates a tragedy of the commons effect where the marginal benefit of pushing crypto becomes so distributed that convincing some guy in a bar to buy in doesn't really benefit the pusher individually much. This is why I have always thought that at a certain point it makes more sense for people to jump onto a new bubble and inflate that one, rather than already-inflated ledgers. And when I say "makes sense" I mean in a "modeling the behaviour of people who may be cynical and ignorant but can still be expected to follow incentives" way, obviously I don't think any of this is actually a good idea on net and the EV is obviously negativr acriss all crypto participants as a class.
I had a 'conversation' with Copilot a few months ago and asked for a picks-and-shovels portfolio. See below for final suggestion (there was some back-and-forth as I know nothing about construction so I had questions). Is it slop? |ompany|Allocation|Role| |:-|:-|:-| |**Quanta Services (PWR)**|16%|Grid expansion, transmission| |**Eaton (ETN)**|14%|U.S. electrical systems| |**Schneider Electric (SBGSY)**|**14%**|Global electrical + automation| |**Trane Technologies (TT)**|14%|Cooling + thermal systems| |**Arista Networks (ANET)**|12%|High‑speed switching| |**Martin Marietta (MLM)**|12%|Materials + construction| |**Corning (GLW)**|8%|Fiber + optical interconnects| |**Xylem (XYL)**|6%|Water movement + treatment| |**Cummins (CMI)**|4%|Backup power (kept small due to valuation)|
> Looks like they ran out of greater fools 🤡 There's no such thing. Amway has been in 'business' for 66 years, grosses billions of dollars, and is a massive MLM pyramid scheme.
Like a MLM, if everyone was getting incredibly rich this fast and easily they would have bought up everything by now and you would see lambos every time you drive to work.
lol squeeze. It’s a garbage MLM company.
Ok that's actually a whole nother story and level of scam. Thats an MLM 😂
Is that the Herbalife dude? ...How you lose to an MLM man?
https://preview.redd.it/5bbs9r18r21h1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98ec2d4f40634f9872a311a0e9ca9a6648183439 Actually it would be perfect for a meme. The MLM would be in stocks and not in supplements. In the right subs that would be comedy gold 🥇
It's difficult to meme it though, the only memeable part is probably that it's an MLM but I have no idea how to meme that
AI is the biggest MLM and money laundering operation to ever exist. And WE are all buying into the pyramid scheme.
It’s surprisingly a decent stock. Cash in the bank, profitable, and serious about their business. And it pays good dividends. Not a fan of MLM, but it is a way of business. They announced share buybacks too, so that will add value. They can dilute if needed, but there isn’t a reason in the foreseeable future being profitable like they are and so much cash.
~~American Multi-Cinema~~ Artificial MLM Corporation ✅️ https://preview.redd.it/p7ifg85xfmzg1.jpeg?width=1272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bd90dc796dffef5e733854b49640dc8f0a0dcd9
Burn cash until they file bankruptcy. Then a congressional hearing about a MLM disguised as a crypto treasury. They hold billions in Bitcoin. If they offload to pay shareholders it will put significant downward pressure on BTC. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhsrkvEY55s&pp=ygUWaW5maW5pdGUgbW9uZXkgZ2xpdGNoIA%3D%3D
I think you overestimate. Go look at a Yukon group on Facebook, it’s all rural/suburban moms in middle America driving these new SUVs, almost the entire time they’re MLM and their husbands are some blue collar thing that peaks at like 80k.
I have two friends that I can talk with it about. One is crazy and if I say i bought a stock he buys a bunch, without doing his own due diligence. I used to be able to with my brother, but he got hammered on one stock and only buys bonds now. The companies I worked for knew I traded stocks and bought a lot of stocks. Hell, during the dotcom boom everyone in the office was going nuts and on margin, then got hammered on their margin calls. i never borrowed money to buy stocks during the dotcom boom. I have ran into another person that is trying to get me to join their MLM day trading thing. I made the mistake of asking about it, I told that person NO several times. That person lives six houses away from me. Overall, there are about 99.99% of the populace that does not want to talk about investments. That is what reddit is for, that other 0.01%. Heck, my spouse rolls their eyes if I want to talk stocks and investments.
I’ve been suggested dubious MLM scams on YouTube and IG for years. Now getting AI ones too. There will always be quality ads and bad ads. It’s more so whether the balance is even across platforms (and I would expect a company like Reddit to have worse ads given they’re just scaling the business).
It has so much potential don’t know a thing about the company other than it might be MLM but the set up is insane right now
Just in case nobody looked it up like I just did, this is a MLM nutrition/health company. FWIW
"I know a guy who knows a guy...." c'mon, you didn't really fall for that, did you? Regarding Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard, each has ETFs that are more less duplicates of each other. There may be marginal differences in costs, yields, and so on, but no one investment group has a significant advantage over the other. There might actually be some differences but at the level of retail investor, they are not very relevant. You might as well pick one for its website. GTFO Primerica. If it feels like an MLM, it is an MLM. 4% fee is insane.
Google is the Omega Level MLM: “You can sign up for free to join our network and the more people that sign up the more money the dude at the top makes. Early investors have enjoyed 10,000% returns you can have 10,000% returns too if you invest now”
All the cultist bulls are literally AMWAY and Vector marketing knife salesmen tier scammers L0L. I guarantee half the morons that spam bullish nonsensical retardation on here got their start as MLM homos, couldnt cut it, then joined in on the biggest MLM grift the world has ever seen. They are used to having to buy in with their own money and trying to scam everyone in their immediate vicinity, absolute naturals!
People talking about 🌽 and its incremental gains and losses to virtually the same place in my gambling sub. Need to refer them to the MLM sub.
I would take the word of my local MLM pusher over Trump's at this point. Dude lies almost as much as he speaks. At some point you have to come to terms with that.
And my fucking ex just destroyed our marriage over her own self-fulfillment in some MLM scheme, taking two small kids to her "new" boyfriend after I had just bought "us" a house - yes, I paid her half of the house again and now alimony for my two kids I love and never see. They live 200km away. I did none of that shit. Why are some women so loyal and others so entitled? I should have treated her worse I guess, might have been a better outcome.
Dude, it's been 5 weeks of straight up lying about this war, and that's following up about 10 years of straight up lying about everything else. At this point I would take the word of my local MLM pusher over Trump's.
He's a great man, it's insulting he has to fight against real estate agents and MLM fraudsters
I don’t know how familiar you are with Primerica or mutual fund share classes. Many years ago you would see mutual funds in share classes like A, B and C. Class A shares are still around but B and C are both close to extinction. (You will now see modern classes like F, I and R which come with no load and a lower ER, designed for 401k plans, institutions and advisors dealing in large quantity) I have seen a couple Primerica statements come across my desk over the years and if I recall correctly, all of them have been Class C. Class A shares have a higher sales load and a 12b-1 of 0.25 that comes out of the expense ratio and is sent as a trail to the person who sold or holds the assets. Class C shares typically lack a front load but have a much higher expense ratio, sometimes as high as 2.5%, in order to accommodate a 12b-1 fee of a full 1%. I assume this is attractive to Primerica due to their MLM structure where the higher 12b-1 fee is used to pay the “up-line”. I don’t like class A funds but class C funds are even worse.
I’ll have to check out Fidelity, never realize that they’ll pay you to roll over. I’d be happy just to roll it over without fees. And yes, the MLM has been realized later. Apparently we have to wait another year until we move it over as we only had it for about one year. From what I’ve learned, you have to have it in there for at least two years before you rolled over without fees.
Bols be like: Is there a production shortfall of 11 million barrels a day? Yes Is 20% of the world's natural gas production offline for 3+ years? Yes Are Asian countries running out of diesel and waiting in huge lines? Yes Is the Iranian government talking like John Wick and posting AI videos of them destroying the Statute of Liberty with the head of Baal? Yes Do I also have confidence that a dementia patient who is a serial liar surrounded by a bunch of real estate agents and MLM hucksters will resolve this? Absolutely
The Iranians are highly educated statesmen but everyone is listening to the gang of MLM hucksters and real estate agents
It's kind of scary and less funny tho. Those are the exactly the kind of ppl who join cults and are susceptible to MLM scams.
If technical analysis is horoscopes for traders than speculative ETFs are the essential oils and WSB is the MLM party
A woman I know who runs a rather significant sized pyramid for her MLM has gotten a Full Time Job
Reeds like an MLM commercial. What I like most about crypto is human traffickers, drug/gun runners and terrorists benefit from it the most! Very cool!
*So now I'm trying to step back and understand how people who already have significant capital (like many of you here) actually think about opportunities like this.* This wasn't an opportunity. The guy is either part of an MLM or running an outright scam. Real investment managers don't ask random 19 year olds in coffee shops to hit up their friends and family for seed money. That's just not a thing. There's also restrictions on who can invest in super risky stuff like this to protect the naive. It's OK you got fooled - they prey on people without experience like you. Take the lesson - if something sounds too good to be true it probably is. As a note, Cutco will not pay you what they claim they will and the guys selling "$1,000 speakers" for $100 cash out of a white van are lying.
I could go on. But much like a MLM, you’re basically responsible for all your own inventory and you’re essentially just taxing people in your downline. You’re just paying slightly less than the next guy on the chain. You’re self employed doing your own marketing ect. In all seriousness it doesn’t feel unlike something like Herbalife just with a very different lifestyle.
“YSK a people-first plan from a Northwestern Mutual financial advisor can show you better opportunities. That way you can build a life you'll love.” YSK we will take all your money and sell you overpriced shit and the entire company is structured like a giant fucking pyramid scheme at Northwestern Mutual. Then at the end of the day you’ll say ‘why in the fuck did I pay all those fees just for them to buy some shitty American Funds bullshit’. Source: wife peddled their trash for like 10 years. First time I heard how it was structured I was like……yeah. That’s basically a fucking pyramid/MLM.
>Idk dude there’s a electric car company saying they’re not going to sell cars anymore trading at like 600 p/e I know of no such company.l, but i do know a hyped MLM stock company, that just happens to sell electric cars.
How poor do you have to be to think that's even an insult? What a classic millennial straw grasping whenever your generation can't win an argument, seethe harder. Also I did it at the start before drop shipping was even a word invented by the failures of the industry who went for the MLM TedTalk scam route, it was actually lucrative because I had actual connections to make use of in Hong Kong. I haven't drop ship shit since 2017 after making money off AAPL and TSLA.
That is factually what MLM stands for in investing terms.
Casinos are built on losers. It's an MLM
Anybody getting that goddamn MLM beef advertisement in their feed?
So Scam Altman is saying that it takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart, but then how do he train his MLM then? Was a bot or a human? 🤔🤔🤔
What do you mean? Herbalife is the best MLM scam out there. His own class basically.
1999 Incredible innovation and waaaay better than scouring stackoverflow for solutions but the hype is out of control. We are in full MLM mode now where the salesman are out there peddling things they don’t understand. Just look at how many people are selling courses.
LLM is like MLM in the 2000s…people thought they could all get in on the action but only the selected few ever made it out ok. $S is like the lower bitch trying to be the upper bitch but doesn’t have the looks and definitely doesn’t have the goods
Cryptocurrencies are just the tech-bro Mary Kay cosmetics. Crypto meetups and conferences are just modern-day Tupperware parties. They are the same. MLM/pyramid schemes of different flavors.
I like testing out different options so X with all their posts about their winners piqued my interest. I should have seen it as an MLM
> None of them have a hashrate 850-970 EH/s. For perspective, 1 EH/s is 1 quintillions 10¹⁸ hashes per second, meaning the BTC network performs roughly 850-970 quadrillion specialized hash operations per second, using ASICs optimized solely for SHA-256 proof-of-work, using almost zero-floating point operations. #Stupid Crypto Talking Point #19 (secure network/hashrate) "**Bitcoin is the world's most secure network**" / "**Bitcoin's hashrate is up!**" / "**Bitcoin is becoming more secure/useful/growing/gaining adoption because of "hashrate"**" / "**Bitcoin is backed by energy/computing power!**" / "**Bitcoin is un-hackable**" / "**Bitcoin's value is 'the network/effect'**" / "**Blockchain can be used to verify authenticity**" 1. Blockchain is incapable of verifying the authenticity of anything. This is due to [The Oracle Problem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tspGVbmMmVA&t=2108s). All blockchain can do is say, "here's what is in my database" and that it wasn't tampered with since the, but it cannot guarantee that the data was ever accurate. That's a function of the "oracle" that submits the data to the chain. The "Oracle Problem" cannot be solved. 2. The Term "network effect" is a vague abstraction that can be used to imply any number of things, from the network supposedly being powerful (addressed later herein) to simply the Nirvana Fallacy, of assuming IF everybody adopts Bitcoin, then this "network effect" will make it more useful. The problem is you can say the same thing about every pyramid scheme and MLM: It's the "network effect" that makes it work. This is a distraction from asking the real important question: What good does this "network" actually do for society? With bitcoin, the answer to that is often, "Just wait..." 3. Bitcoin has been hacked and had its blockchain undermined several times historically, including a time when [the system was exploited to produce 184 Billion extra BTC](https://decrypt.co/39750/184-billion-bitcoin-anonymous-creator), and blockchain had to be rolled back. It's happened historically, and there's no guarantee it can't happen again. 4. When people claim that the network is "secure" they aren't really talking about Bitcoin or blockchain, instead they're simply suggesting that the cryptographic algorithm, SHA-256, has not yet been cracked. What they're leaving out is the fact that each and every day, peoples' crypto gets stolen without their knowledge or approval by any number of a hundred other ways. Just because the core hash is hard to break, does not mean there aren't ways to "hack the network." 5. There are literally thousands of ways to "hack bitcoin" without needing to break the cryptography: phishing, trojan horse programs, browser plugins, rootkits, social engineering, etc. The need to maintain a complex seed phrase requires that it be written down and people and systems can be "hacked" to find that seed phrase to steal peoples crypto. They don't need to "crack SHA-256." 6. Bitcoin's increased hash rate means two things: 1. **There's more competition between miners.** 2. And **[more electricity is being wasted maintaining the network and creating nothing of value](https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index).** ***That*** is all "increased hashrate" indicates. This doesn't mean there's greater adoption. This doesn't mean the network is "more secure." This doesn't mean "bitcoin is growing." It doesn't mean there's more utility or usefulness in the network. 7. People mine bitcoin for one thing: to make more bitcoin. Mining activity is a natural reaction to the "price" of BTC (or the availability of cheap/free electricity) and not its utility. 8. Using an increase in hashrate to claim bitcoin is more secure or has more adoption is misleading and deceptive. The increase in hash rate has no actual bearing on how "secure" the network is. The cryptography works the same whether there's 10 nodes or 10,000. And with mining cartels being concentrated, it makes no difference whether 51% attacks are perpetrated by 6 nodes or 5,001 in one of the top 2-3 cartels. Also [bitcoin has been hacked in the past and it's had nothing to do with hash rate](https://neptunemutual.com/blog/analysis-of-the-overflow-bug-in-bitcoin/). 9. So when you see people harping about the "hashrate", note that it's probably one of the few metrics that has been steadily increasing, but this is not a reflection of the utility or growth of bitcoin, but instead, that people have found new markets where they can get cheap electricity or profit by [wasting electricity and selling it back to the same grid at a profit.](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/09/business/bitcoin-mining-electricity-pollution.html) There are some companies that have set up crypto mining operations as a scheme to defraud local governments, citizens and public utilities. 10. Pretending Bitcoin's network is "the most secure" because of cryptography or hashrate, is like pretending a cardboard box with one end open and the other end with the world's strongest vault door, is "secure." In reality, there are thousands of ways to steal peoples' crypto without having to crack the hash. Bitcoin is one of the most fault-intolerant networks ever conceived. 11. Assuming that "open source" projects are inherently more secure, it also not a solid argument. In Nov of 2025, a well regarded smart contract DeFi protocol called, "Balancer" that had been around for ~5 years and previously professionally audited, [was found to have vulnerabilities in the code that allowed hackers to steal more than "$70M" in tokens.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ethereum-defi-protocol-balancer-loses-085637790.html)
Gold and metals are assets bitcoin is A MLM scheme with no real value at all Meanwhile those company shares are actually a real tangible situations Its like saying NFTs were an assest worth millions. So you sell a million dollars in shares of a company whose stock might swing $50 to $100 in either direction on average.... for a million dollars in a fake asset that could swing $20,000/30,000 If it swings up your good obviously but if it swings down that doesn't equal anything near what your stock would have lost. Yeah So the dilation will come when they can no longer borrow money to buy bitcoin and the are forced to keep selling company stock
This is what happens when you're involved with an MLM, and you're at the top.
Pyramid and MLM schemes are illegal for a reason. Also, when a stock goes public it gets added to indexes like Dow Jones U.S. Total Stock Market Index. ETFs like VTI - Vanguard US Total Market will have a portion of this stock in it's holdings.