MLM

vox_popul1

Multi Level Marketing is what MLM stands for. It is another name for what is commonly called a Pyramid Scheme. MLMs are organized in such a way to funnel money from new members to older members at the expense of the new members who are then encouraged to do the same.

mediocre_remnants

Because it's an MLM. They recruit random people to be "financial advisors" but they're really just sales people. And those people get more money by recruiting other people to be financial advisors.

happy_accountant123

We should all go easy on corn bros. We all have a family member that fell victim to MLM or Nigerian prince.

Wolfe-Toan

This guy is an ignorant moron. Do a quick search or ask AI about his long history of fraud, bankruptcies, grifting MLM's, and bullshit books. He also has no finance education whatsoever.

sunbeatsfog

Absolutely sell. Crypto is MLM. Why would you actively undermine the US dollar unless you are trying to break the law?

onetimeuselong

If there’s no hope of getting enough money for a home, gambling in various forms starts looking like a better option. Same for running scams like MLM, ‘selling courses’, crypto discord pump and dump groups.

RevolutionaryWar4184

it is fair to say, Mcfarlane lake mining is trading for 0.1% of its in situ value, and taking steps to put that resource into gold production. for it to go to 1%(10x) and to 10%(100x) , 200x (20%) not a problem, 300x? give er bud thats 30% insitu its not unheard of. 100% of insitu is not unheard of, nor is a premium to insitu, this is silly but 100% of insitu for the Juby project would be 72$cad per share, 1000x, but , it might be more reasonable to expect 1% then 10% in the immediate future, then 20% a little further along the project food for thought $MLM $MLMLF.US

RevolutionaryWar4184

$MLM $MLMLF.US Mcfarlane Lake Mining, half million shorts, cashed up explorer becoming producer trading for 1/1000th its insitu value. 10x to 100x and I'm not even kidding 100x would be 10% insitu looking at only one property here

Apost8Joe

I'm enjoying watching the MSTR bros get absolutely savaged with no hope of a strategy in sight - down almost 40% YTD, down 60% past year. I mean that's great if you were one of the early adopters in 2023 before all the money got sucked in at higher prices, now the majority of shareholders are underwater or soon to be. If that sounds A LOT like a ponzi scheme or MLM...you're not wrong. Let's see how far it drops before they abandon hope.

Emanhavi

Nah, article made it sound like openai is the garage band - that re-does other artist’s music and is planning to be a huge hit so they are borrowing a shit ton and buying from oracle who is in a MLM company with nvidia and is borrowing because they love openai’s music.

DueHousing

An MLM can sell legitimately products and generate cash flow actually

Emanhavi

Thanks for the reminder that this sub is as sharp as a marble. They say stock price and credit default swaps are starting to show people are nervous. oracle is maxxing its credit cards to be part of a MLM selling merch and they plan to make money from openai who is maxxing their credit cards already but agreed to buy future merch for their garage band that’s totally gonna change the world and be super profitable. Oh, and the band is essentially a cover band.

ZeroSumTruths

You can buy ETF and the actual coin itself, but some of you brought the MLM bitconnect snake oil ticker instead.

darealnoons

Doesn't make him wrong. It's just that the market is irrational. Herbalife should be illegal as any MLM. It's just a disguised pyramid scheme like Amway and those fuckers have been around forever. The whole premise of getting people to recruit for you will exhaust the world's population in a few cycles. The only thing that aeys herbalife apart is that there are people who will pay for the products and not be a part of the scheme. That's what he's not accounting for. There will always be fat people looking for a way to lose weight and these people will believe anything

lemons714

Definitely not a moron, and richer than I will ever be. However, he did lose money shorting an MLM while providing a lot of entertainment battling Icahn over it. He was right; HLF is a shady MLM. However, being early is the same as being wrong - and the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

ecnecn

I really want to collect the accounts of people that invested 1k and more, spammed and hyped, showed photos how they bought BYND products in the super markets (like it would have any effect). And sell every pyramid MLM Scheme to them, Ref-Link product sell links etc.... they reach max. level gullibility - must be easy to farm such people.

LeftTesticleOfGreatn

Yeah this is definitely a scam. OP will be forced to buy useless shit like with any other MLM, then he won't sell shit unless he hassles friends/family and when he tried to return the stock hell get cents to the dollar (if anything)

Rare-Energy-4357

Losing capital to a fraudulent program understandably necessitates extreme caution, yet your approach of developing a stringent verification checklist is the most effective way to re-engage with legitimate FinTech opportunities. The primary difference between a scam and a trustworthy automated trading platform lies in custody and transparency: your capital must remain in your regulated brokerage account under your exclusive control, with the platform only granted API access for trading execution, making any request to transfer funds directly to their system a major red flag. Furthermore, legitimate services will offer verifiable proof of performance through independent audit links (like Myfxbook), explicitly detailing the Max Drawdown and risks involved, while avoiding any guarantees of profits (such as a fixed 5% monthly return) or the promotion of Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) schemes, which are hallmarks of financial fraud. Your disciplined process of verifying that a system meets these criteria allowing you to safely utilize automated trading while mitigating risk is the essential due diligence for recovery and success.

Galaxy_AI

90% of the rich people I encountered in my life were either in poltics or selling MLM (or Ponzi) schemes.

neekogo

Make sure it's a legit financial advisor and not an MLM agent pretending to be a financial advisor. Does "F" mean Fidelity or is with a different company entirely?

fire_alarmist

Is it all just one big MLM now or what?

fire_alarmist

You sound like a MLM or pyramid scheme influencer to normal people btw.

Majestic-Pizza-3583

MLM (true AI is a long ways off) is currently a bubble, exactly like the .com bubble in 90/00s. It’s going burst and soon which will crush the market as it’s the big thing propping it up. Can only keep pouring so much money into something that is blowing through that investment 2-3x faster than they can bring in any revenue.

Orange_Codex

I know a guy who swing trades blue chips at 5x leverage according to the Kelly ratio using his own MLM. It sounds like you have a similar timeframe. I'll ask him what he's eyeing.

leomeng

Means she sells MLM junk

TollTroll

ppl who haven't been the victim of this sort of thing have a lot of trouble imaging it and so can't take it seriously, but it's extremely common. family ties are very frequently abused these days, just like old friends coming around to sell you MLM scams, family will use you, so always keep your eyes open (sounds like you have been) and minimize the potential for their abusing (possibly psychopathic) ways to impact your life.

TracyM45

Build AI CRH MLM VMC

All_FIREdUp

Every basic white bitch is hopping on the Christian girl trend. There is a clear formula that follows these steps precisely: 1. Have a baby 2. This is your new personality and all you know how to talk about 3. It’s MLM time 4. PRAISE THE LARD JESUS I AM SAVED

trymyomeletes

The people that have assets exceeding their basic needs have more wealth than ever. There’s more investable wealth as the majority of the world falls into poverty. Where else besides stocks and gold would the wealthy put their money when the USD is being destroyed? PE firms are still paying absurd multiples for private businesses, Trump is actively manipulating mainstream crypto (which is also recently off ATHs), Bill Gates and Mormons own all the land already and aren’t selling, the fractional “art” scams are showing 1000% gains, and I haven’t seen a new MLM in forever. The folks that live on the income from their assets have almost squeezed the gig dry but supply and demand rules still apply. It will be interesting to see what happens with JPow (more likely his successor) when the AI bubble pops and he’s already caved to Trump and taken rates down to 2%. We might be out of moves.

Low_Plastic363

Action on thesis: I don't know shit about fuck, so I am loaded up on construction aggregates (VMC and MLM - pent up public and private demand and decreasing rates), AI (GOOG and NVDA), US Bancorp (rate cuts), and a little taste of XOM just because it's been lagging. I don't want anything consumer-sensitive.

15719901

Patrick Bet-David is such a clown. He runs a shitty MLM and thinks he's some brilliant entrepreneur. He's just adept at scamming gullible chuds.

Rosebunse

I think this depends. While I'm a proponent of college, I think some kids just need a bit if time to think about things and figure out what they want to do. The main thing is to not het addicted to drugs or immediately start a family. Or get sucked into an MLM.

Orange_Codex

Good. I still want more. Kjirstin being a wannabe MLM hun doesn't take away from the fundamentals of the product.

Will_Full1933

Lululemon is an MLM, no?

Healthy-Garlic364

I’ve known friends & coworkers who always seem to be moving from one scam to the next. MLM’s promising “passive income.” “Going to the mail box in my PJs and collecting checks from people I don’t even know.” Some people will spend their entire lives chasing the dream of “easy money.” They’re doomed to learn the hard way.

D_crane

Sometimes you can't - One of my co-workers got duped into one of the ganoderma coffee MLM / pyramid schemes close to retirement, tried to convince him that it was a scam but he wouldn't listen since he already paid for a bunch of stock. He thought he could sell this stuff after he retired on the side. Needless to say, didn't work too well since he's still working.

FundedToday

I heard it is crashing now. They just canceled the trip to Portugal. I heard there is a meeting happening in London with a bunch of people high up in the MLM. Everybody should probably try to get their money out. Very concerning.

rjp0008

Your mom could have had you on worse habits like an MLM or whole life insurance so it's not a major deal. But yeah you're safe to move stuff around.

rriggsco

Supports Debeers diamond cartel through jewelry stores. Supports MLM through pampered chef.

Flipside68

I think pizza boy is an Ai bot but if they are real then the evangelical right is buying sooner than I thought - they are they next group to buy in here - think of all the MLM’s you could have with cannabis supplements haha

Mobile-Bar7732

>Yes…success of a company’s objectives is tied to compensation Success of company is not measured in it's share price as I said in the post of mine you replied to. Owning a share is owning a small piece of the business. Currently the price at which it is sold, has no bearing on the the success of the company. You can even see it now with falling sales figures, failed Cybertruck, etc Therefore using it as objective for CEO compensation is ridiculous. It is also borderline illegal as seen in MLM and pyramid schemes. > A pyramid scheme is a fraudulent business model where profits are primarily earned through recruiting new members rather than selling legitimate products or services. >No counterargument to Elon having met all objectives of the compensation package? As I have repeatedly said, the objectives were ridiculous to begin with. As one of the richest people in the world how do you know he didn’t hire or build his own, automated trading systems to prop up the price of tesla.

Emusbecray

I know there is a stripper index for downturns, but there should be a MLM index. Because I saw my first one in a long time pop up in my feed, followed by another one trying to promote fitness when I thought Moderna and all those off label diabetes medications curbed the market. I’m not saying we are hitting those numbers, but let’s be open to indicators that follow downshifts.

MaybeTheDoctor

Edward Jones seem to be scammy MLM equivalent for money.

AGI2028maybe

By 2035 the entire us economy will be healthcare and single moms running MLM schemes on tiktok.

Frozen_Shades

I'm convinced FIG is an MLM

EchoLongworth

insurance, airlines, cruise lines, shipping likely drop. construction (CAT, J), materials (VMC, MLM), emergency suppliers (IRDM, PL), satellite/data comms (MAXR), and prefab housing (Skyline Champion - SKY) could benefit. energy/logistics rerouting could boost LNG names (LNG, FLNG). trading disasters is risky and timing-dependent. sentiment moves fast, headlines faster. if you’re not early, you’re probably exit liquidity. set alerts on TradingView, use Twitter/X lists, or monitor Breaking News on Koyfin to stay ahead.

Rare-ish_Birb

For all my ghey bers, who still have cash or margin to buy poots, may I present a well-researched list of analyst SELLs and 12 month target prices (CFRA, MorningStar): Celcius CELH $46 > $35 Darden DRI $204 > $187 Dominos DPZ $485 > $404 Dropbox DBX $28 > $20 GoDaddy GDDY $165 > $150 Martin Marietta Materials MLM $585 > $485 Packaging Corp PKG $206 > $148 Sherwin-Williams SHW $340 > $296 Solar Edge SEDG $27 > $12 TD Bank TD $75 > $50

TeamFoulmouth

I know an MLM when I see 1....

MycoZac82

I know 1 person who got in 5-6 weeks ago and has initial investment back , withdrawn into fiat .. does have MLM component , but not required to make money at all full stop .

G4M35

LOL, never take investment advice from a FB group. The name sounds like an MLM.

Sefft

You thought a company called “GrabAGun” was a sure bet? You’re like a stay at home wife that hears about a new MLM selling socks with silly faces in them and knows this is her family’s way out of poverty.

toolbelt10

> is by trying to recruit customers or more accurately, to turn reps/recruits into clients, using the well known MLM technique of self/internal consumption.

deadmetallucyluce

Turning into a MLM agency at this point

Jinnuu

MLM / Pyramid scheme. Run away FAST.

Jumpy_Childhood7548

They are not fiduciaries, and are not obligated to serve your best interests. They are a MLM, pyramid scheme that will charge you commissions, loads and fees etc., on anything they can get you to agree to.

neekogo

Any chance your wife's friend is pretending to be an FA & instead is in an MLM?

orgasm-enjoyer

Very chill in high school. Later when he needed to make money he started doing MLM stuff and got fat

BreadfruitLife5195

So basically it’s just another MLM?

Smooth_Mango_7726

It is MLM for men.

Narrow_Zombie8443

Crypto is an MLM for Men

The_first_flame

It's a giant MLM and the goal is to make the people who hold the most, very very rich. That's it.

randomusernamegame

It's basically MLM small business sales tactics 

Subotail

Think big! Infect your local church with an MLM, document the chaos... Profit

RogueNtheRye

Im not sure this has to be a sexist thing. MLM's are known to be exploitative. Whatever sex you are dealing with them is likely to leave you feeling mislead and taken advantage of. In 2025 if someone doesnt think women have what it takes to be a successful entrepreneur there not only a sexist the stupid and blind to boot.

Fluffy-Benefits-2023

Youre not really an “owner “ of an MLM you’re more like a salesperson

ReindeerTypical2538

You’re not wrong. It feels like those FB Mom groups where all the ladies are trying to sell MLM scams to each other

Dev_Sniper

Tbf: it would be a great way to get people to spend less time in their phones. So… it‘s not all bad. Ut just wouldn‘t be bought by anybody apart from the people who post about chatting with ChatGPT in the middle of the night to work on their super cool new AI MLM business model with inverse quantum mechanics blockchain technology

Adventurous_Ad_622

Why is everyone investing in Al he's an idiot that never graduated?! Scam artist of the best kind. Seems like the smooth brain gorillas are falling for his MLM.

Slight-Focus8609

‘Forex trading’ social media MLM adjacent

techaaron

Start a MLM

postmfb

Sooner or later we will find life out there and then we can rug the Universe. Think bigger infinate growth and MLM as far as the eye can see.

visionarymind

# Lel, RDDT🍒🥊 MLM & 🅰️ℹ️ (wageslaves in 🇮🇳) tired of the laughing man emoji, change my mind 

TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Economy is wounded. If affluent suburbanite cuckwives can't run their fairytale MLM pyramid schemes, then the shopping retailers are gonna take it in the ass....

TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Economy is wounded. If affluent suburbanite cuckwives can't run their fairytale MLM pyramid schemes, then the shopping retailers are gonna take it in the ass....

WormFuckerNi66a

My wife worked for a rep for a couple years and saw it constantly. They claim it isn’t a pyramid scheme/MLM but it definitely is.

Takemyfishplease

Because MSTR is basically a MLM scam for techbros and he knows it. It’s best to skip that part and get eight to the source, using crypto directly. Why have a middleman?

rrcecil

I’m not even convinced them having to buy back cars would hurt the stock. Is this an MLM?

NegativeAffect1198

It is not a scam but does seem to have a level of MLM in it. The bot is very real and I have personally verified it prior to purchasing subscriptions to it back in January. I’m scheduled to have all my money back in mid July and they have made every payment promised on time. I’m 70% recovered on purchase price to date. I was super skeptical initially and still not very confident of the longevity of it (old enough to know better) but I’m happy with the return and am making an average of $58k per month between weekly payouts and quarterly bonuses. Hope it has legs to last. I think it does based on the numbers and my audits. The bot is 100% real though and the payouts are not based on other people putting money in at all. The house makes a lot more than they pay subscribers and the math works out. The back end of my account has every detailed transaction and bet placed along with results. A friend of mine did go visit the main office in Vietnam. Don’t expect anyone to believe me on this but it is my actual experience to date with the company. I think it has longevity built into it. But by all means, if you don’t have the money to play with, I don’t recommend you subscribe. I met a guy who took out a loan to subscribe. He had been treated right to date, but damn, I would never recommend that.

NotTheHeroWeNeed

At this point it’s basically like being facebook friends with an MLM aunt

AlertThinker

Yeah totally not a MLM scam.

diggitythedoge

That graphic is exactly the kind of demented garbage ponzi-schemers target at retirees. I've seen them because my octogenarian father has been scalped a number of times by total fraudsters parading as MLM "entrepreneurs".

lookingforajob2020

Nutlick sounds like he's selling an MLM or a timeshare lol

sponge2025

I dont even know what all of this is about but before even clicking the name or reading this BS text its either a MLM or crypto scam

CopanUxmal

So the US economy is just MLM now?

hittingthesnooze

This is like the couple that had two decent paying jobs and one of them quits and cashes in their savings to start their MLM “business.”

AlternativeOwn3387

Yeah VT is great. And isn't Primerica a MLM scam?

FoolishInvestment

Things Trump can tweet- Seizure of all Gold held by the Fed Firing JPOW Doubling Tariffs on all countries that aren't China That he's now a sales representative for an Essential Oils MLM

Emotional-Price-4401

Sure sign of an MLM Where do I sign up

Phi1ny3

Elect a MLM distributor, become a downline. Even has the idiots that still think this will amount to yields, aaaaaany day now...

ImportantPoet4787

It depends on the stock.... If you think a recession is going to happen, get great prices on companies like BMY and WM and other recession proof stocks If you think the economy is fine but tariffs will kill consumer spending, then invest in companies like MLM and PCH that have limited exposure outside the US If you think it's just a blip, well the Mag 7 are on sale! From Nvidia to Amazon...

TrainingLime6839

The problem is that a ton of people who got suckered into the prestige product are now incentivized to pretend it is true. See this thread- people downvoted anything that remotely criticizes the fake prestige at well-known expensive schools. Most of these people are essentially Herbalife MLM suckers without consciously knowing it.

Consistent_Waltz4386

At least i’m not out pitching a trading MLM scam. $50 a pop for a new recruit. And you make 40-80k a month. Sure, I believe that. ; )

DicksBuddy

I thought that was how all MLM schemes worked (including the butthole part).

bigforeheadsunited

This is the best indicator. Similar to recession era. I had several friends who were dancers/escorts (both male and female) in those days and this is what I remember in case it's helpful: In late 2007, my 28f friend went from being a realtor to dancer within weeks of Countrywide announcing they were changing their rules around income verification. This was huge because people who were easily qualifying with fake check stubs and job letters were no longer qualifying for homes during manual underwriting. She went from $20-30k a month to 0. Dancing only got her $2-3k per month and she was forced to start over and move away. Not saying she wasn't a part of the problem just sharing results. Mosr San Francisco dancers I knew (Little Darlings, Roaring 20s) got restaurant server jobs and went to bartending school in 2008ish. Some did MLM work, with me, promoting different random 2008 products in malls, shopping centers etc. Private parties didn't pay more than $500 so it wasn't worth it, when the expectation was always to f.. Moved to AZ around this time and Alaskan Bush, Sonny's, Cheetahs girls were hoping to go to 18+ clubs instead of 21+ because they were making more money on the full nude side where no alcohol is served. Most construction workers throwing 2-5 tips and no private dances, no bachelor parties etc. It was rough. I almost bought a club with a gas station buddy business partner of mine - average sale price of a strip club was $100-250k. Which if yall know about that biz, that is a cheap price to include a liquor license AND the LAND it is on. Ultimately passed because there was no money and I could tell the girls wanted pimping for more money and I'm not about that life. By 2010 many pill popped the club scene and became bottle service girls and "promo models", many working for free hoping to catch a break. My dancer guys got married, many to very very very rich men. In 2012, some of those same ladies though went back to dancing, on the side/weekends, started their own promo agencies, went tattoo and low rider girl route, going to all the conventions etc. None strangely turned to porn. All that to say from 2007-2012, they unanimously said it was the worst ride of their lives. Went from dropping thousands on European cars they bought at buy here pay here's that were lemons, to rolling in beat up Toyotas.

purifyingwaters

LOL. So it’s a MLM that you’re running?

Primatene

is American idol real or did I fall for a MLM scam again 

michaelt2223

Crumbl is a MLM run by the Mormon church it will still have demand as the bank runs start

panda-bearly

Fantastic analysis. I'd add that a heavy influence of digital culture on YouTube and in the podcast world of shilling out weird scammy MLM products and get rich quick schemes is another Symptom of the late stage capitalism collapse. Oftentimes those schemes are produced by Manosphere weirdos, Daily Wire hosts, PragerU shills, etc that are both grifting on shit products and meme coins and directly attacking real culture and trying to replace it with their nonsense that is worsening the educational foundation in the country as well and further radicalizing normies. This is just my opinion, but so much feels like a grift all the time because it is. Republicans are openly just mocking their constituents and purposely destroying the country both in reality and also in this weird, grifty used car salesman Matilda's dad kind of way, like it's "just a troll bro." Everything needs a subscription, or needs to sell you this or that make you belong, and it invades everything, replacing culture and making so much feel meaningless. This grinding dissolution on the people brings us to people making jokes about and loving what us happening despite it being horrible for everyone making less than at least several million a year at this point. It feels almost out of body sometimes to witness, the cognitive dissonance of "Hey why is the biggest scam of all taking place right in front of us and people are down with it?" Its so blatant and obvious. The stalwart lying--"it wasnt a Sig Heil, bro." Like, you guys know you're lying. I know you're lying. We ALL know you're lying. So...why support that?

MethylphenidateMan

>I'm told the they are currently valued at $9M, but believe it will sky rocket once their product gets put into production. Told by who? That's their pitch, your role as an investor is to challenge that valuation and get a better offer for yourself, not take it as gospel and peddle it further. Well, unless you're pitching to us in some kind of MLM fundraising scheme.

DayAffectionate4077

Should I start a ponzi or MLM with Amway/Tupperware? Comment only if you have a phd in finance