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My only move is to do jack squat because who the fuck know where this Iran War shit storms will lead markets. Investors who think this will repeat how the Iraq war went is regarded. Last time we have the full support of NATO allies with their troops backing us. Trump has pissed off every NATO ally and his mother so nobody is coming to back USA up on this
To help the US secure Hurmuz, get Trump to sign something saying NATO is secure, they'll support Ukraine til they win, Iceland is off the table and Denmark/EU ownership back on the table, all global tariffs rescinded, and US 100% in on WHO and Paris agreement, then we have a deal.
To help the US secure Hurmuz, get Trump to sign something saying NATO is secure, they'll support Ukraine til they win, Iceland is off the table and Denmark/EU ownership back on the table, all global tariffs rescinded, and US 100% in on WHO and Paris agreement, then we have a deal.
To help the US secure Hurmuz, get Trump to sign something saying NATO is secure, they'll support Ukraine til they win, Iceland is off the table and Denmark/EU ownership back on the table, all global tariffs rescinded, and US 100% in on WHO and Paris agreement, then we have a deal.
Last week - UK is finally sending aircraft carriers - well we don’t need them the war is already won This week - if you dont help us keep the SoH open it’s going to be really bad for NATO. Threatening the collective military organisation that you decided to Ignore when you launched your ‘special military operation’ for its members not turning up to help you is just fucking bonkers. NATO- ‘Ring bell for assistance’ Trump - ‘I don’t need your help!’ Trump -‘Actually I do need your help, and if you don’t come running I’m going to break your fucking bell.’ The guy is a class act
They didn't even give a timeline lmao. How long do you think it would it take to get NATO ships sent from Europe and all over the world to the strait, then actually move into position to start protecting shipping traffic
Article 5 of NATOs treaty was enacted once, on Sept 12 2001, by all nations of NATO to defend the US. He knows that, yet bad mouths his greatest allies while begging for help. No ally can be involved when there are no clear aims or plans for this conflict except the disjointed contradictory rubbish the President speaks. No ally can let their troops be involved in a conflict that has "All on our terms with maximum authorities. No stupid rules of engagement..." and "No quarter, no mercy" as the stated rules of engagement. To see the President of the US begging is beyond crazy. This is weakness on display when an aggressor country continues to strike US assets in the Middle East over two weeks after the war began.
BREAING: TACO has said: - The US doesn't need oil - NATO is US - I think Macron will help - I will not say which countries will help
If we “need” NATO to help us, then the war is definitely not going to plan.
The fact he said he didn’t need help from NATO and would tariff them for not supporting then asking for their ships is some massive balls of dululu
Trump was sending revenge promise threats to NATO countries for refusing help with export. One thing he can do is somehow try to legitimize Russian oil.
🇺🇲: Greatest military in the world!!! 🥭: pwease help us NATO 👉👈
Really hope NATO doesnt bend over after his behavior at davos in regards to the sacrifices made by NATO allies during the afghan war.
Trump gonna bash NATO/EU for not helping in middle east probobly.. Market gonna fall, then he will say Oil will be 30 USD market will rally probobly
* ***Trump declares 'victory' while simultaneously urging coalition help:*** *President Trump claimed the US has "essentially defeated Iran" and vowed "we will finish the job," while pressing NATO allies and other countries to join a naval coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.* lol "Mission Accomplished"
NATO is a defensive alliance. There is zero legal ground for NATO to support Trump attacking Iran. Other countries may well be dragged into it, but that would be a decision made without NATO’s inclusion. Trump needs to learn the hard way on this one.
Market taking a dump now that NATO allies were like nope we ain't coming
That's actually a smart move by Iran. It ensures that those 7 NATO countries warships that Trump wanted help from to secure the Strait of Hormuz never show. Once those warships are there Iran is done. Now it's how bad do those 7 NATO countries really want to help Trump?? This extends the Iran War time frame I'm afraid.
NATO is defensive pact. That orange idiot attacked Iran and got his balls twisted. Go cry somewhere else Krasnov.
Look, chances of this press conference being basically Orange tacoman calling out allies (and NATO) who aren't "helping" keep the straight open, and threatening them, are fairly high....He is going to blame everybody but himself and the US for any kind of short coming. "if xy and z would have done A, we would not be in this predicament..I am therefore applying tariffs...etc etc..yadda, yadda"
What allies ? The US told them all to fuck off and they they aren't allies anymore. Operation Epstein Fuzzy is an American op, not NATO.
It's not a "war" supposedly and we didn't get attacked so why would NATO even be involved?
He is quite obviously in WAY over his head. He thought Iran would topple like Venezuela and now the bully got punched in the face and he's panicking. He has vilified our NATO allies repeatedly! He threatened to invade a NATO country! He slapped tariffs on our best allies. He personally insulted the leaders of allied countries. NOW, he wants them to bail him out? This guy is dangerous and incompetent.
US thinks NATO will help secure the strait of Hormuz because trump asked nicely
# Hey NATO, # i know I tariffed the shit out of you in April 2025 # and threatened you all in Davos # But we still cool right? You gonna help me right? Right? LMAO # 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜 ^(KEEN TOCKY)
china isn't vindictive like that but if you've "made your bed, then you lie in it." same thing with these euro idiots (Finland's PM for example) who expects china to stop the Ukraine-russia war. china got nothing to do with NATO so they ain't fixing your mess.
why is Orange man cryin in media for NATO help? I thought war was done? I thought we won? I thought the strait was open?
I don’t think NATO is relevant anymore. He should stick to his buddies in the Council of Peace.
I'm not so sure, NATO only have to help you if you're not the aggressor (iirc). Trump doing a Leroy Jenkins shouldn't count.
The whole tile ticker system at the top of the daily thread is just broken when things like WTF and NATO appear just because people mention them. It would be better if certain tiles were always pinned like spy and oil maybe DJI. Then permanently filter out the obvious noise "tickers"
Mongo is now begging for NATO allies to come escort ships in Hormuz. Deal with it yourself, we Europeans are not allies of Israel nor do we support this lawless war.
Trump threatening NATO again. At this point we need to call his bluff cos he will chicken out as always and then he’s done and markets can be driven by fundamentals again. Come on Europe
NATO will likely come around. I am thinking but not saying it is right.
# This is quite a nice NATO you all got goin here... # Would be a shame if something were to happen to it... # if it doesnt help unfuck my mistakes. ^(KEEN TOCKY)
well last time I checked there is no NATO article for helping US to stir shit in middle east at every Israel whim and bomb children but let me check again... nope not there
Orange man is now threatening NATO-allies to join in opening strait of Hormuz. What a joke! We won't join some Israel's genocidal wars.
Guys, even though us has it hard with iran djt syill pushes the relationships with their allies:NATO. Do you guys really believe something good can come out of this or are you guys totally blind? After bull market for 3 years, here we are with the beginning of the bear market.
never seen NATO ticker in my life wtf lol
He's now threatening to end NATO if they don't send their ships in to get blown up for him Off the handle. They gonna impeach him yet?
Why is that relevant to our war today in your mind? Many billions in aid to Ukraine, after multiple admins have asked Europe to raise their defensive spending & capabilities, should be relevant to them, right? Are we NATO or not? I'm salty about the fraying alliance; what are you salty about?
He’s also threatening NATO again if we Europoors don’t help out Given he’s done nothing for us, what’s the point
Countless NATO allies lost people fighting our stupid wars in the Middle East before.
Watch nobody join the coalition or do it half assed in protest for El Trumpo's berating of NATO.
These absolute assclowns. Just trying to bilk NATO nations into cleaning up the mess they caused by their own imbecilic hubris.
Threaten to back out NATO Say other countries weren’t pulling their weight Say we won the war Says shit will hit the fan if NATO doesn’t intervene And still has time to golf every other day lmao
I mean he basically threatened the future of NATO if he doesn't get his way. It's pretty fucked either way
Russia is happy AF if NATO splits up. Next stop the Baltics and Poland.
🥭 can’t draw NATO as it’s not attack on the member state. It’s unilateral attack by members state on other.
He's going to threaten to leave NATO unless they come. Book it.
Lol 🥭 now begs NATO for support 😝😆😂
Yeah Donnie, threaten NATO now, that'll help. What a 🤡, he's gone full regard and 🌈🐻
Earlier Trump was making threat to leave NATO if other countries would not help.
The longer it takes to get the oil flowing again, the worse things look for Trump. As a result, Trump is failing and flailing. For all his repeated boasting of “winning” the war, there are 15 million barrels of oil and refined products per day that are not getting out of the strait of Hormuz. Which means he is losing. The only barrels transiting the strait are 1-2 mbpd of Iranian oil headed for China and India. The US Navy could easily stop these ships, but they don’t. Because Trump is desperate for any oil to get out. Even if it is Iranian oil headed to China and India. He is so desperate that he has also removed sanctions on Russian oil held in tankers currently at sea. Who are the winners here? Iran, Russia and China. Recently, he has begged others to release oil from their SPRs. The US will release 172 million barrels from its SPR. Shockingly, Trump did not add any oil to the US SPR in the last year when oil prices were low, as he planned these attacks on Iran. The same goes for Trump’s empty threats to take out Iran’s oil infrastructure on Kharg island. If the US destroyed Kharg island today, oil prices would jump $30 immediately and the world would be headed for a severe recession or depression. Trump is desperate for help to get the strait open, since the US Navy has said they cannot do that; going so far as to beg China, and threaten NATO members if they don’t help. Suddenly he is begging for help from all the countries that he has pissed off with insults and tariffs for the past year.
Since Iraq? Oh boy people are still in denial eh. Iraq was a walk in the park, it was done with full NATO backing. It was a different thing entirely, as poorly as that went politically. My boy you are witnessing the USA Afghanistan moment. The US will never be the same after this disaster. This only serves the Greater Israel project.
🥭 instead of apologizing with NATO and cancel tariffs of they help, He just keep being himself an asshole and threaten them if they don't help him. He is by far the most retarded president in American history.
why is Mango begging NATO for help when he said the war is already won also why does Netanyahu keep saying Iran is days away from the nuclear bomb when Mango said completely annihilated their nuclear programs
it's funny seeing 🍊 beg for help from NATO (and gaslight them for HIS MESS) about the Strait, you know how bad the situation gotta be in order for that to happen? lmao you don't hear a PEEP about Israel from him. All that bravado a week ago gone to shit.
>My guess is that the bottom is in, this week. Watch what happens when Iran starts sinking NATO military ships wandering through that chokepoint. I've yet to see any of our allies that actually think this is a good idea either - most of them have said that they'll help once things cool down, they're not going to be defending blockade running during the hot war phase.
After just shitting on NATO allies repeatedly, he wants their help.
NATO welcome to the axis of resistance
NATO is a defense alliance against Russia your orange imbecile
Shouldn’t have angered every NATO member by starting a trade war if you needed their help in brand new grand war in the middle east
TRUMP THREATENS NATO AND PRESSURES CHINA: HELP OPEN HORMUZ OR FACE CONSEQUENCES Trump to the Financial Times: "If there's no response or if it's a negative response I think it will be very bad for the future of NATO."
Bruh 🥭asking for NATO’s help LMFAO
His ultimatum is "open the strait or I blow up NATO".
🥭has warned that NATO faces a 'very bad future' if allies do not help the US in Iran, according to FT report
BREAKING: Trump has warned that NATO faces a 'very bad future' if allies do not help the US in Iran, according to FT report.[](https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2033320159134568862)
**7:09 PM EST** > > 🥭 warns NATO faces ‘very bad future’ if allies fail to help US on Iran # I thought we won in the first hour 😭😭 # What a fucking embarrassment
The rest of NATO combined would token help anyway, lmao.
If they didn't have NATO dumping weapons on them the war would have ended like 3 years ago tbf.
How it started: fuk you Brits & NATO we dont need your ships 😎 How its going: China pls send help 😭
Who knows what country Trump Attack next? Could be cuba or some NATO country.
LOL, Russia took most of Ukraines Natural Resources. They sit now on over 10 trillion of extra Natural Resources. NATO is keeping Ukraine on life support by destroying their own economy.
https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/world/houthi-maritime-drone-and-uav-strike-hits-us-linked-oil-tanker-in-red-sea Still ongoing, and NATO gave up on them a long time ago.
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He’s talked shit about NATO and the EU for almost 10 years now. What an embarrassment he is
The Strait of Hormuz distinction between allies vs NATO is interesting. So countries like Japan and South Korea (massive oil importers, US allies but not NATO) get hit, while France and Germany technically don't? That's a weird dynamic if it plays out that way. Agreed on oil equities though. Even if this de-escalates tomorrow, the risk premium isn't going away fast.
Rutte did call NATO a platform to project power tho...
He was referring to UK Military in Afghan. Which because of 9/11 was the only time NATO alliance has been called to action.
Interesting, I have been investing in thematics for many years now and as part of that allocated to HANetf's NATO a couple of years ago not long after it was launched, which has done extremely well with exposures to companies like Rheinmetall and BAE. Will look into UKRN for sure.
Yep, NATO is only there for when allies are attacked, not when allies engage in illegal, undeclared, Pearl Harbour style sneak attack wars. In properly engaged wars (even if they were based on lies) the alies were doing the jobs American aren't very good at, and were well in advance of front lines, where just a handful of Australian and British took enemy airfields, and after American sof turned up to guard the place, moved on to taking the next airfield. Then the Americans and their embedded media hacks came in flags waving in the sun. Just like they did with the storming the beaches in Somalia lol. Wankers.
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After Trump shit on NATO veterans, undermined our security and our democracy. Get fucked honestly
But but but, NATO is useless. You don’t need NATO… remember. And calling on China? lol is he sniffing glue?
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Ask your new "Board of Peace" friends, Donald. Its traditional to enlist NATO's help BEFORE you kill the Shia pope and shit the entire gulf up the wall.
You’re not wrong, Russia’s invasion has been overwhelmingly useful for NATO countries in general, even if that does sound cold. It’s also woken up a lot of EU countries. While Trump being his Russian asset self is a temporary advantage for Putin, the whole campaign has been a general disaster for Russia and they can’t be allowed to win.
Embarrassing for US. For someone who said they don’t need NATO, he is begging the world for help now
So turkey, a NATO country, is allowed passage? Now that's interesting. Turkey should be able to re-sell oil and gas to Europe. Calls on Turkish delight.
Take a lesson from Afghanistan. Iran will be much, much worse. Bigger population, has had decades to prepare, even after all strikes they are still 10x better equipped than the Taliban. The entire country has a massive mountain chain around it. Entry via Iraq puts you smack into the mountains. There's only 2 places where it's possible to establish a bridgehead. Bandar Abbas at the strait or Chabahar in the south. NATO doesn't have the expeditionary capacity to invade. Europe has lots of manpower and ground vehicles, but no way to get them to Iran even if they wanted to withdraw their entire military. This is the mess of the century, and only a quarter of it has passed.
Which they shouldn't be. NATO is not for offensive wars. I feel sorry for the US that gets to live with a President that only acts on emotion and doesn't know basic things.
Trump is now begging other countries to send in warships, just last week, he said NATO was useless and we don’t need NATO or any other countries. Now he’s begging for help and said we need to do this as a group, as it always should have. lol
Maybe NATO should ask Trump to pay his tab before sending any form of ma power or equipment.
And yet another bozo who doesn't realize that NATO, being the world police, keeping bases everywhere and all yada yada has NOT been to benefit the world, but to expressly shaped it to favor the 'ol U, S of A. Ever tried to square in your head that you simultaneously have **25%** of the worlds GDP but _still_ are being taken advantage of?
Yeah, he also spent a decent amount of time personally attacking PM Kier Starmer last week. For that matter, he recently said the US might not support other NATO members if they were attacked. And not long ago he also said he doesn't value the contributions British and other militaries made in Afghanistan and Iraq. All in all, it's a little surprising he'd even ask something like this of them now.
You believe that America covered the military expenditure of 32 countries? NATO is a defensive alliance. You chose a war with your greatest ally. Finish it with them.
He said NATO soldiers aren't on the front lines and don't get their hands dirty (basically).
I used to go to Trump´s Truth to confirm these messages are indeed real and no satire, but not anymore, they are always real Anyway, I sure wish that they would ask among other NATO countries, Denmark for help. I am sure they will be excited to jump to support the close allies who recently tried to annex part of their country (and yes, I know it´s technically not an integral part of Denmark...)