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19Y/UK. Any advice? I plan on putting in another 10k in the upcoming months, probably to VOO? GME average was $90 and NIO was $49 (take profit order at $60). QQQ is there just for a feel of change. Is it looking good? I have a high risk tolerance due to my age (around 40-50k in blue chip crypto)
I was curious why $NIO share price is heading south even when they are constantly growing in fundamentals. Completed new battery swap stations, expanded business into Europe, went into collab with Shell, achieved expected delivery growth. But its share price seems suppressed. CITADEL IS SHORTING!
Also for anyone new in $TALK I posted this before but this is a DEEP value play with original investors in Uber and Spotify. I’m saying it’s a NIO stock going from $1-$50 in 2 years. $15+ in 6 months. ADD DIPS. Be PATIENT. It’s trading at cash. It’s the opportunity cost on this than anything else
Guys NIO just unleashed new car ! AMC- bigger tickets sells with matrix Wednesday !!! PROG big buyers stepping in keep an eye on it & new patents ! BKKT weird whales stepping in market open & close .. they are up to something next week .
Are you kidding me? Have you not aeen the correction we have had in tech stocks? A bunch of previously overvalued tech stocks have all fallen to all tim lows. TDOC, NET, NIO, COIN, BYND, SQ... Even paypal... A bunch of stocks have been crashing.
Had Tesla at around $200 avg back in 2017. Sold for $300 around 2018. Lost so much potential gains if I hd just went long. Had AMD for $11. Sold for pennies to the dollar. Had NIO for $2 ish. Sold for a loss. All still hurt to think about.
buying into an airline in march 2020 because i saw a couple percent drop from covid being mentioned overseas. got in around $2.50. im still holding but i saw it go down below $1. this was one of my first buys. learned covid sucks ​ another mistake was buying NIO at $65 USD. i based this off a tip from someone i work with. once again im still holding but learned to do my own research.
BABA - growth has slowed, fundamental fair val is around 180, but hit hard with China issues. BYND - so much competition coming on. Fair val around 40-60 NIO - has high growth potential with risk again with China. Currently fairly valued imo. SNAP - got kicked hard with iOS changes, is still as cool? SPCE - looks cool to be in the space tourism, but too early SQ - some hate the ceo, I am bullish, fundamentals would suggest 100, but so much they can still disrupt. PLTR - a black box what they do, concerns of insider selling, lots of stock compensation, but current price is fair imo to current fundamentals. PYPL - dont think this is the bottom, fair val 200-220, they can still grow more, who doesn't use this but lot of fintech pressure to compete ZM - teleconf is here to stay, if growth stags they will bottom near 100-120, but current pricing sure is back to pre-pandemic level which is looking juicy. PYPL - >prob safest BABA NIO - >if you don't fear CHINA SQ PLTR - >long holders ZM SNAP BYND SPCE - >coin toss, if you have spare change
I wouldn’t put them in the same basket with the same question, more like - SPCE: pure story stock, do not involve - BABA NIO: pummelled due to China - bad narrative, will take time to recover - BYND SPOT ZM PLTR: has real business and some fundamental, oversold on all timeframe, looking for a monthly lower high, start scaling in small positions - SQ PYPL COIN: financial infrastructure of the world tomorrow, buy buy buy
NIO isn't going anywhere, hold till you are above water. China gov won't let them fail since they are like their best example of what their national companies can accomplish. I I see it only getting bigger, especially with all the cooperation that China is seeking in 3rd world countries. That an untapped market down there for them in the future. The only danger is if CH decide to mess with overseas investors.
I've also got a sizeable position in my small portfolio... I think it is okay to hold for short term. Whether or not I'd hold it for more than a few months will depend on their delivery numbers. The EV market is getting really hot and there is less time for the new EV firms to build a solid foot print in the car manufacturing industry. Having said so, NIO has the backup of the state gov, provincial gov and big IT firms. And their cars are reliable. A big con is they haven't made profit. If they could generate more revenue and push down the cost to increase the possibility of making money this year or next year, their stock would fly, imao. Their time is running out I think and the same applies to all the new EV firms. I think the only EV stock that is worth holding is TESLA in the long run when the valuation becomes more reasonable.
I am a new investor, which says a lot lol... I also built up a position in NIO without formal valuation as I do not believe relying too much on stock valuations. The assumptions are difficult to get right, etc. I try to trade on macro. But I now start to think we should trade on macro and also do more homework to build solid valuation models. Here are my 2 cents about this stock, anyway. Pros about NIO: - * one of the firms which deliver in the ev space, not just do the talk but do the walk... * have repeatedly beaten the market expectations * they are entering European markets, and there were rumours last year that they were trying to hire in the US but no solid news about expansion in the US * they have the Chinese gov back-up, i.e. easy access to debt market (can be a pro or a con) * some of their initial investors are big IT firms (i.e. easy access to tech, can obtain favourable contracts etc) * looks like their cars are more reliable than Tesla cars but this is really a minor thing, at this stage, slightly superior or inferior quality of EVs , I don't think matters that much to the stock price * Chinese people are rich so the demand is high, I think Cons about NIO: - * being a Chinese stock, they rightly deserves a discount on the stock value * delisting threat? but if it gets delisted, investors will be offered stocks on hkex but will be at a discount for sure * could lie on the delivery numbers? but people in China say their cars are fabulous to drive... compared to LUCID, I def. prefer NIO and XPeng * the Chinese gov is slowly withdrawing their subsidies on EVs * the Chinese economy, I think will get hit bad this year due to zero covid strategy * the EV space is getting hotter this year with traditional car manufacturers now waking up to take some market share... Toyota will definitely have a much better track record and access to international capital market, for sure... I am also watching this stock closely. In the long run, if they can't get a reasonable market share in Europe, I won't hold for long term.
Why did you say Robinhood? I don't like them either man; so no need to try and make such a harsh comparison lol. I hope it works out for you bro; no animosity here. Yes you're right, down 60%; I was originally in $NIO, and was down 60% at one point; but eventually got out at $40 when I was in at $3. I think something like that will happen with $BEST bro.
>wanted to be a long term investor I'm a momentum swing trader, thus much more focussed on short term action. But, even as a long term investor, you don't simply hold stocks for ages. You hold them, until your investment thesis becomes invalid. Ask yourself, why you bought NIO. >NIO was our baby Never ever fall in love with a stock. If a stock acts poorly or the company behind it, then don't stay with it.
Reason being is because NIO is losing out to their competitors in Li Auto, XPeng, and BYD. While their sales have increased yoy, they face heavy competition locally. I like the company but I don't believe you will see a significant rally on NIO as there are many EV stock plays out there atm and NIO has lost a lot of traction in terms of generating attention lately.
If I were you, I would spend some time estimating the stock’s intrinsic value. If it’s valued above your estimate, sell. If below, hold.. Essentially you should have an independent estimate of what you think a company should be worth. You should then buy it’s stock when it’s trading below your estimate of what it’s valuation is. Currently NIO is valued at $48.5B.. what’s your estimate of its valuation? If you have no idea, then you’re not investing, your speculating. I can tell you what each of my stocks intrinsic values is, which gives me confidence to hold even if the stock drops (because I have an estimate of the value of future cash flows). NIO might be a wonderful company, but you should know if the discount value of future cash flows exceeds $48B by a reasonable amount or not
The main thing I would do is stop buying anymore shares of $NIO, Ever. Remember how you are feeling today. There is a saying don't throw good money after bad. If you believe in the company than just HOLD. You haven't lost any money until you sell. I also share your concerns with Chinese stocks due to their government. The other option is to maybe sell 10-25% IF you can put that cash for better use. That's NOT buying any of the other tech stocks that have fallen as that is just exchanging 1 beaten up stock for another when most speculative tech stocks trade with same momentum. My 2 cents.
Honestly, at this point in EVs, China is the only place I’m willing to make long-term buys. Tesla is obviously good, but I’m not willing to buy in at these prices - it’s a cult. I’m fine not making those potential gains. XPEV is my #1 in China. And NIO and LI keep fighting for position 2 and 3. They are all well ahead of any EV maker outside of Tesla, and China’s middle class is larger than the entire US population. Also, both Nio and Xpeng are entering the Euro market. Not sure any of them will get a foothold in the US, but they don’t need to. I think BYD and Wuling have more sales than the three mentioned above, but I don’t know enough about them.
A whole lot of “learning” lol - yolod wrong direction during election and didn’t cut losses early - sold NIO at like $4 on Chinese delisting fud - went 100% option portfolio because holding shares is boring and not enough upside potential - consistently blew money on cheap OTM weeklies or 0-1 DTE - always looking for the “next” big ticker instead of following smart money into their mega cap favorites I could go on
For crying out loud Cramer status.. HOOD can you go inverse just to 21... Pls and Til I'm bag holding you at 12 so I'm not letting go . NVDA you need to be at 333 why the hell they pull the rug those thirsty HF aka MM.. I wonder if NIO will see 45 cause Lucid is doing it