NIO

Expert_Context5398

In the U.S., the subsidies you're referring to are tax credits that have been phased out. Other than that, there isn't much support from the U.S. even during Biden and Obama's presidency to support EV manufacturing as auto unions and dealerships are strongly against EV's. In China, when I mean heavily subsidized, literally everything from the supply chain process is subsidized. Raw materials for the batteries, refining the lithium, nickel, cobalt, etc., processing of these materials into batteries, land approvals, chip manufacturing, etc., Even something like water/electrical resources for battery manufacturing is expedited through the approval process because the CCP doesn't need to answer to voters or lobbyists preventing it. In the U.S., just getting the water needed to produce batteries requires a lengthy process that can be delayed indefinitely by environmental advocates. You think China gives a shit about the environment advocates? All these EV companies in China didn't just randomly pop out of nowhere. People think China only has 5-6 EV automakers. There's hundreds of them. Many you have never heard of. The way it works in China is local communities want the EV business so the manufacturing is heavily fragmented into districts. One district might offer significant loans and discounts to NIO while another might offer it to Geely, etc., This is the reason why there is so much EV competition in China. You have dozens of brands competing against each other in the low margin EV business because all of them were propped up by massive subsidies, cheap loans, and expedited approvals.

Jericho3434

NIO… from like 2021 lmao

tnstockruns

What you guys think about NIO? At $3.50, is it time again for another run to $70?

Murdock_03

I hit the trifecta of EVs with Rivian, NIO and Workforce. Been bagging groceries ever since

jerome-yellen

Is $NIO mooning because of the US-China deal?

Maximum-Tone164

Will continue to swing OVID and IBIO, back into a swing on NB. New swing with NIO, while monitoring OPEN for a swing.

rahvan

I see your Lucid & Polestar stock and I raise you: NIO ADR stock. Down 98% 😂

tnstockruns

When does NIO hit $70 again?

Carbon8490

Im still in NIO😅

I_post_my_opinions

Damn NIO really fell out of the spotlight lmao. Shit has zero volume and beat the fuck down 

free_spark

Small position but I am a bag holder of NIO

ohyeahwell

I'm down 92.28% on NIO.

sixjasefive

NIO, XPEV and VW didn’t do much better on the EV auto front.

I_Like_Sparky

I got fucked by NIO and cut loss. But I switched to CLOV... and not dead yet

ridinderty

At least you stayed away from NIO, I'm down $-250k

ridinderty

I would like to introduce you to NIO stock...

No_Feedback4998

NIO

tnstockruns

NIO back to $70. Let's get on it! First stop $10!

PracticalMagic81

Try holding NIO after the big run lol

tnstockruns

NIO to $10 by end of year!

No_Feedback4998

I am holding $NIO 1100 shares at $39.63/share. AMA

Moxisxsx

So many soys is wsb now…… many were not here for iconic ipos such as NIO (many who bought are poor) and PLTR (many who bought are poor, few rich) this was even before Covid (many ber were made poor during covid rally) and other shitty pumps like that mushroom stock that everyone thought was going to make them rich (it didn’t they are still poor)

joebraga2

That's actually one of the biggest differences between the US and Brazil: Tesla isn't officially present in the Brazilian car market. You can see Teslas here through independent imports, but Tesla doesn't have the normal official sales/service operation here that it has in the US, Europe or some other South American markets. So Tesla isn't really the company putting competitive pressure on the established manufacturers here. That role has largely been played by BYD, GWM and, increasingly, other Chinese manufacturers. And the results are becoming pretty striking. BYD went from being essentially irrelevant in the Brazilian passenger-car market a few years ago to competing with the country's largest established brands. Its Dolphin Mini has even reached the top of the retail sales ranking. But I think your broader point about industrial policy is important, and I don't think the choice has to be “unrestricted imports or complete protection.” Brazil is actually an interesting example because the government is increasing import tariffs on EVs while Chinese manufacturers are simultaneously investing in local operations. BYD is operating in the former Ford complex in Bahia, and other Chinese manufacturers are also moving toward Brazilian production. That's very different from simply saying: “You can't sell your cars here.” A government can say: you can access our market, but if you want to sell at very large scale, invest here, manufacture here, develop suppliers here and employ people here. I think that's where the US-China debate becomes more complicated. I completely understand the argument about the social consequences of the outsourcing wave. Losing industrial employment isn't just an accounting exercise. Entire communities can depend on those factories and supply chains. But protecting employment and protecting an incumbent company from product competition aren't necessarily the same policy. If Chinese manufacturers could only enter under rules that encouraged or required substantial US production, American workers could potentially get some of those manufacturing jobs while Detroit would still face pressure to improve its products. Japanese and Korean manufacturers are a useful precedent for the broader idea. Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia and others didn't remain purely foreign exporters to the US forever; they built enormous manufacturing operations in America and became part of the American industrial base. Obviously China introduces additional geopolitical, security, subsidy and trade issues that Japan and South Korea didn't present in the same way, so I wouldn't pretend it's an identical situation. On Tesla, though, I think there's another interesting distinction. Tesla gives Detroit serious competition in EVs, but it doesn't reproduce the entire competitive environment that exists in China. China has BYD, Geely, SAIC, Xiaomi, XPeng, Li Auto, NIO and many others fighting across different price segments. That creates enormous pressure not just at the premium end but also on batteries, manufacturing costs and affordable EVs. And that's really the part of the Brazilian experience that made me ask the original question. Chinese competition here hasn't simply resulted in every traditional manufacturer disappearing. Instead, we're watching established manufacturers respond while some Chinese companies move toward local production. So I absolutely agree that industrial employment is worth protecting. Where I'm less convinced is that excluding competitors altogether is necessarily the only way — or the most effective long-term way — to protect it. The interesting alternative is: competition, but with industrial policy attached to market access.

tnstockruns

Time to start squeezing NIO, like it's 2020 all over again. Unite and let's get it rocketing up!

tnstockruns

Oh oh NIO finally starting to pump again. Let's see $10!

tnstockruns

Yo. We gotta get NIO moving north again fast. $10 stock easily. Let's get on that asap!

hiddencrustysock

Has anyone has Chinese shit like NIO work out for them? Apparently it’s a good buy right now

Lucky-Carpenter-5557

Anyone watching NIO

makeaccidents

Check the 5Y (2021 peak) charts of; Nikola, Fisker, Rivian Automotive, Lucid , NIO, XPeng, Polestar Automotive, Canoo, and Lordstown Motors.

GamblingMikkee

In NIO average at $5.50 here…. Manipulated Chinese stock unfortunately. Deserves to be much higher

Signal_Importance986

Down 10’s of thousands between NIO, MARA, and ASTS. I’m an idiot.

tnstockruns

NIO needs to go on a run up this month. Let's get it up to $70 like 2020 ;)

hiddencrustysock

If you have the capital iron butterfly on NIO would fucking print

hiddencrustysock

Well, I think NIO is the last time I play with Chinese bullshit

GuavaClassic8205

I have NIO 4.5 call exp 09.18, down 80%, bought Monday before earnings, not a smart move 🥲

Loud-Big-144

ngl NIO is a good look right now, just broke into profitability and it’s down 38% in last 3 months, cheap buy

LuvSicPt5

damn didn't want to get into chinese EV shit show again but NIO being under 4$ on a rising sale volume might be a good opportunity

sinag19

Well NIO failed me 🥲🥲🥲

9tacos

NIO Fo Dolla

shmito17

NIO $4.5 come on!

No_Mirror8043

NIO $4.50 C 9/4 $0.02 Q1000 time to retire

sinag19

Dang NIO fml

Prestigious-Fix8154

Thanks for nothing NIO

Humble_Minimum907

Just half & half ported NIO X Go Pro

Contango-withme

I used to believe in stocks like NIO

Gonz4Rockford

Anyone interested in buying a new car from NIO?

apatheticbear420

Bought 500 contracts for NIO for $5, am I regarded?

AeneasKurtz

Can $NIO get any lower? I don't want to buy puts because it looks like it can't get any lower than this but it's obviously going to go down

tnstockruns

NIO getting set to start moving up next week. Take a look!

ivanorehov

If you really just want to test out the mechanics, I found NIO decent. Its just that fees can eat up 10-20% of the small premiums so check your broker

Mobile-Two-5167

try selling circle internet or walmart or wayfair. Also RIOT. All are reasonable and have good premiums. I started out practicing with a company NIO which was a bad investment, but inexpensive enough to sell puts and then calls. Don't recommend but look into the others (you want the company that you sell puts on to be one that you believe in and is a little down (circle is up right now).

beachsandwichen

I wonder at which part of 18$ will GME close at next Friday…also which part of 4$ NIO will close at

beachsandwichen

I am honestly shocked that Zack’s gave NIO a buy rating

Loud_Ad_5024

Damn NIO is up x17 since then 😱

OutcomeBig4141

I bought heavy into EVs during the pandemic EV hype…LCID, NIO, charge point…  I sold when down 50%. Glad I got out at that much. 

beachsandwichen

How the fuck is NIO so illiquid when shit with 30000x the market cap moves 8-10% a day

BriackYOLO

SpaceX has a literal satellite internet monopoly and lands reusable rockets. NIO is an EV maker fighting a price war in China with constant dilution.

ChillingInMySnuggie

I love Chinese EVs but all of em just aren't performing like they use too. NIO was also my favorite and doing better with the government backing them, but I wouldn't dare to get in any of them now.

beachsandwichen

NIO calls……..ahahaha just kidding

HolidayReality6641

NIO

beachsandwichen

Guess I’m gonna load up on GameStop callls hahahahahaha just kidding most illiquid stock in history followed by NIO

beachsandwichen

Is GME the most illiquid stock on the market or is it NIO

beachsandwichen

So they tanking NIO and GME to zero or what

beachsandwichen

I mean the worst stock ever is GameStop and it’s not even close. I own a ton of shares and have since 2021 so I should know. Second worst is NIO. I own a ton of shares so I should know

beachsandwichen

NIO set a record in chinas ev premium segment…-3% premarket

beachsandwichen

Nah I buy og memes even better. Been in the market since 2015 too wouldn’t you know it. Bought 700 shares of NIO this week. Apparently citadel is gonna steal them from me or something because I have a room temp iq. Please don’t tell my wife that citadel got one over on me again

beachsandwichen

Is NIO the most illiquid stock on the market??? I think so

beachsandwichen

Man it’s so weird how since that crazy meme thing in 21 that GME and NIO have done nothing but drill and they can’t seem to go up at all. Prob pure coincidence

beachsandwichen

Have we entered the phase of the market where MM decide everything and nothing else matters??? NIO sitting at 4$ with zero volatility is hilarious in this day and age with all this Monopoly money running around

beachsandwichen

Is NIO illiquid

beachsandwichen

NIO and GME have to be the most illiquid stocks in history

beachsandwichen

Top ten most valuable companies move 8-10% with ease meanwhile NIO and GameStop haven’t moved more than 1% in 6 months…weren’t they a part of some kind of crazy meme squeeze or something a few years ago oh well prob nothing

Fit-Marionberry5248

Morgan Stanley’s bullish rating is the kiss of death  Do NOT forget that MS was pumping NIO 2021 with 70$ price target for a long, long time. 

beachsandwichen

Ever since Goldman Sachs upgraded NIO to 7$ price target it’s dropped 8.5%

tech01x

NIO.

beachsandwichen

NIO and GME the only two things on the planet left out the pump

beachsandwichen

Why is NIO not allowed to go up…oh that’s right u tried to do a meme pump and dump and no one sold so u can’t make retail poors rich that have 10-20k shares now

AdamNoble1997

I think the question I'd ask is: if this position was cash instead of stock today, would you choose to invest that $700 into NIO right now? If the answer is no, selling and moving on can be the right decision. Sometimes the tuition fee for becoming a better investor is a bad investment you never forget.

DesperateGanache8210

NIO

Moist-Guava-732

NIO just upgraded to 7 by GS its stabilized above 5 i would load up on long 5 calls whenever it dips below

beachsandwichen

That Goldman Sachs upgrade did nothing for NIO

RealisticTea9979

I don\`t know whether it\`s correct, but I'm deep into the technical and fundamental analysis and looking for a turning point in this case. If I find it I add to this position and wait. Are you sure NIO is hopeless?

terminalguy007

Six years and a 90% loss on NIO is a genuinely difficult position to be in, and the sunk-cost framing is worth examining carefully. The psychological pull to hold is strong — the brain doesn't want to "lock in" the loss — but the relevant question is never what the stock has done to you. It's what the stock is going to do from here, with no memory of your cost basis. NIO as a business has deteriorated significantly since 2020. Revenue has grown, but the company has never been profitable, free cash flow has been consistently negative, and the competitive environment in Chinese EVs has intensified dramatically — BYD and domestic players are in a price war NIO is structurally disadvantaged to win. The thesis that made NIO exciting in 2020 (premium EV brand, battery swap differentiation, growth at any price) hasn't translated into durable economics six years later. The $700 position you have now isn't tied to a business on the verge of a turnaround — it's tied to a company still burning cash in a more competitive market than when you bought in. The practical framework: ask yourself if you would buy NIO at today's price with fresh capital. If the honest answer is no, you already have your decision — you're just not acting on it because of anchoring to the original purchase price. The $6,000 loss is real whether you sell or not. The question is only whether the remaining $700 has better expected return in NIO or redeployed elsewhere. Tax-loss harvesting is also worth considering — at your income level going into dental school, realizing the loss this year could have real value depending on your other income and gains.

theocdoctr

If this is a taxable account and you have gains, just sell NIO to offset your gains. I got rid of my SQQQ. bought it for $17.41 and sold it for $3.75. Sucker did the reverse split twice. Started with 1000 shares, then 300, then 60. Luckily I sold it this April when it was high at $62. Now it's going for $38. This was my rollover 401K account.

Fluffy-Phrase-1204

This is the classic sunk cost problem. The market does not care what you paid, only what that $700 can do for you today. If NIO was a fresh idea you were looking at right now, would you buy $700 of it today instead of using that money for school / moving / S&P or whatever? If the honest answer is no, then you already know what to do. The “tuition” you paid was the 6k loss. The lesson you get out of it is the actual return.

beachsandwichen

Oh shit NIO had a grey day what a sophisticated efficient market

Stock-Possibility-67

I have 16 thousand shares of NIO. Same started buying at about 10 in 2020ish and sold some near the top. I now have averaged down to 8 dollars a share and holding it. They’re getting closer to real profitability maybe another year. Why not average down?

Informative-V

They keep trying to push $NIO down but it keeps standing strong at 4.80! $5+ by end of day!

Informative-V

Keep an eye on $NIO it doesn't stay below $4.70-$4.80 often, it always rebounds!

Informative-V

It's 2030 and I'm going to drive my brand new $NIO to $WEN then me and the homies are going to go to $GME to pick up GTA 7.

Southern_Money_9739

Hold NIO is almost profitable.

Informative-V

$NIO

booklover_stockplay

I finally gave up on Paypal. $11k loss. Bought during covid also. The hype was awful. Age doesn't matter because I also fell for the trap. I also lost on NIO too. Sold for loss on it last year or the year before.

CMDRo7CMDR

Laughs in NIO

IndiscriminateWaster

It’s funny to see this post as I did the exact same with NIO back then and felt sick looking at the loss at this point. Lots of good advice here that I’ll def be taking.

nkplague

For me it’s simple. If I had $700 today would I buy NIO? If yes you should hold. If no then you should sell.

Fortheseoccasions

Here’s my NIO story, I hate sharing this failure story of mine but here it is. During covid I heard about NIO as well and bought into the hype, I brought my account from 40k > 180k with both NIO options and stocks in like a year. I thought I was unstoppable. Then NIO dropped to 45$ and I am to 120k. It was so painful but I thought if I ride it out it would eventually recover. Nope it continue to drop to 12$, at that point I have 35k left on my account. I finally decided to sell everything because fuck NIO. After the last 2 years investing in other stocks my account is now about 85k, far from my peak but at least it’s recovering. It would have been like 15k if I left it with NIO. Fuck NIO.

tidder8

Need to get out of the mindset that NIO "owes" you the money. Sell it and do something useful with the money.

Ok-Employ8218

a good simulation i like to run in my head: if i had $700 today, would i buy NIO? at this point consider it cash on hand and buy what you would buy with $700.

midweastern

If you need the money or don't think the company has a future worth investing in, just sell and take the loss. You can claim the full capital loss up to like $3,500 and carry the remainder forward. FWIW I really like NIO at current prices and would buy more. Apart from BYD, they're best poised to capture international EV market share and are already sold in Scandanavia.