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HYSA Or REIT not sure which one is the better option. Please see description below.
Do REIT's generally have higher returns over 30+ years than the S&P?
My retirement strategy for 2060 - What do you think about?
Selling REIT O stock questions
Hospital REIT $MPW crashes -30% after tenant can't pay loans & rent | "We might not recover deferred rent or loans but here is another loan"
Deciding REITS for my portfolio. But lack the confidence in knowing how to valuate each choice.
What are some good investment resources that solely focus on active etf investing?
Seeking Feedback on my Long-Term Investment Portfolio - ETFs Dominant
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Brokerage, Roth IRA, employer 401k, and HYSA... how much to contribute to each?
How realistic is it to generate a good chunk of income from REITs that pay out monthly dividends?
A ChatGPT-based investment mentor chatbot: Rich and Retired Investment Mentor 🥳
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Should I invest in stocks that pay monthly dividends
Where can I find the Funds From Operation (FFO) figures for a REIT?
Looking for long term (+20 years) REITs to invest in, want to put ~$5K in
Are REITs a good long term investment for Roth accounts?
Curious how much y’all have lost currently In your Roth IRA and brokerage accounts/other investment accounts.
Individual stocks vs ETF vs REIT vs Robo-investing
IVR, the long play you have been waiting for. Jean short and corvette money.
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Identifying feeds, financial organizations, groups, and individual analysts who have a bent objective about particular stocks
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Apocalypse is priced into Hotel REITs at the dawn of their golden age... I’m leveraged to the tits 🌰🌰
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8.77% Short on UNIT while paying $0.15 per share at sub $4.
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How does a portfolio consisting of VIG, VYM, DVY, SDY and VNQ sound?
Paramount Group REIT (PGRE) Thoughts??? Work from home and high-interest rates effects
Thinking of investing a good chunk into NWH.UN, but that would be my first REIT
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Selling apartment complex, seeking recommendations on where to reinvest.
Feedback?: Strategy for wheeling covered call and put sales, targeting leveraged dividend capture
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"talking about REIT, they are very stable compared to others" Not sure where you're getting this, REITs can be volatile as anything else. I mean, looking at PLD for example - one of the largest/best REITs - I'm seeing seven 20%+ drawdowns over the last 5 years. REITs have also broadly underperformed for a while. I don't have the numbers but feels like there's less public REITs than there used to be - Blackstone has bought a bunch and it doesn't feel like that many of them go public anymore. I have nothing against the idea of owning REITs but haven't/haven't found one that's very compelling in years.
REITs are a valid sector, yet have underperformed over the past decade. But "past performance doesn't guarantee future results". In Roth accounts, REITs have a theoretical advantage - no income tax at the corporate level (REIT) then (in a Roth) no tax at the personal level. Still, they have underperformed over the past decade.
You already can but with extra steps. Buy an already established REIT. Invest in said REIT with your 401k. Manage the REIT as you see fit
but the waelthy REIT!!!!
You know you are correct when WSB is bashing on you. While it is a store that sells to people in times of economic slowdown, it is still a retailer brick shop, not even online presence, so year, long term its cooked and will revert to 20 PE. Its value mainly remains in its shop assets , basically a Retail REIT if you know what i mean. Ping me if it goes tits up and you lose your bet tho, wanna see if you are right or WSB is right
VTI is not a bad choice but you'd have done better putting your cash into a money market fund that pays 4% interest while you dollar cost average in by buying smaller fixed dollar quantities every day or week over a one year, or longer, period. This gets you a better average price over time, particularly if the market heads down like it has the past month or so. Otherwise, diversify more. Put some money into fixed income funds, like bond funds, while 10 year Treasury rates are over 4%. Jerome Powell won't be fed chair for long and the idiots running this country might cut rates after he leaves despite looming inflation. The resulting recession will likely hurt US equities far more for far longer so diversify into foreign markets as well. Then find strong companies positioned to rebound when the US gets its act together and starts revamping the grid and building up infrastructure and generating more demand for electrical equipment. I like SCCO, AMSC, and ASML. With mortgage rates going up a REIT like AGNC pays a nice dividend while you wait for the misguided rate cut that will let them borrow cheap money then buy up all the 6.4% plus mortgages and pay out the difference on dividends. Whatever you do don't panic sell and resist the temptation to try and time the bottom of the market and then jump in all at once. Investing, unlike gambling, is a marathon not a sprint, so invest for the long haul and read a few good books like "A Random Walk Down Wall Street" or "Your Money or Your Life". Finally, never rely on advice or suggestions from random internet idiots without doing a bit of research on whatever BS scheme they are pitching. If we were any good at investing we'd be enjoying our wealth not wasting time tracking the markets every twitch. Good luck with the investing!
is there a REIT that invests in Kharg island? i think it's a smart move.
Glad my REIT portfolio is finally getting some love
Ur too young for a falling REIT, kill O. Intel is bolstered by Trump, I think it’s a dog still. Ford, trade around a core position or dump it, it’s insanely range-bound. I love Disney, not expensive, but may be hampered by the yolk of the human Cheeto. Use the sales to wade into Amazon & Meta, if ur under 50, hypergrowth is OK, plus the war put em on sale. Actually a perfect time to reallocate. QQQM is ok for all of it till ur 55 if you want. Just add as much as possible as fast as possible always. DON’T SELL Microsoft this year, it’s the new Google, AI will grow it before it replaces it.
The Merrill push into alts has been fascinating to watch from the outside. They rolled out that whole "Personal Wealth Analysis" framework last year specifically to justify these allocations.. basically a fancy way to show clients why they need 10-20% in alternatives when most people can barely explain what a REIT does. Your broker probably wasn't lying about the diversification benefits. The academic research is pretty solid on that front. But the implementation is where it gets messy. These interval funds and non-traded REITs have redemption gates that kick in right when you need liquidity most. 2008 taught us that correlations go to 1 in a crisis anyway. The white paper thing kills me though. We spend so much time at Scatterplot making sure advisors have the right materials ready to go for client conversations. If he couldn't even send you basic educational content, that's just lazy. Fee-only is the way to go but even then you gotta watch out. Some RIAs are pushing alts hard too because they can charge higher fees on those assets. The real tell is if they start the conversation with education or with allocation percentages. Good advisors teach first, sell second.
hai consigli relativi a REIT focalizzati su alloggi a basso/medio costo?
I hold the VNQ fund of REITS and VTR Sr housing REIT. I don't trade them except will sell 20 pct of my VTR when it hits 100.
I think REITs would potentially be a good medium term play. The problem is, if youre expecting a recession then you have to make sure the REIT is focused on low/medium housing.
It sounds like a ponzi scheme. Private equity by definition is highly illiquid. It may be a REIT or private credit fund, but even then, it sounds scammy.
I’m of the same opinion. I’ve been in Fundrise since Day 1 with the first REIT …. so it’s all house money now anyways. Let it Ride. But I do hope it holds well over the next 6 months.
>There is real income potential, but it requires specific market conditions. Not something you can really set and forget. You don't have any certain way of knowing at any point of time if the market will trade sideways, up, or down. Any existing knowledge of expected volatility is priced into options. XYLD returned 8.18% the past year(including dividends), VOO 16.92%... >Agreed on REITs tho it is important to recognize they aren't going to give you qualified dividends, so you pay a larger tax bill on them. It's not as bad as it used to be, there is the QBI deduction which makes them taxed 20% less(unless you are very high income), and some of the distributions are classified as return of capital and therefore untaxed. There is also the added benefit that they generally do not pay corporate taxes. >Bonds aren't necessarily bad either. Something like SGOV gives you monthly ROI, and is tax free. Muni bond funds for your state are likely the same, but probably have a lower ROI. If you are investing for a longer horizon it may make sense to buy longer term like VGIT or even VGLT to lock in higher yields over the long term. >But you get all the benefits of a REIT plus since you actually own property you get capital gains, get depreciation, and the ability to do a 1031 exchange. There are higher barriers to entry (qualified/sophisticated investor). cap gains/depreciations are passed onto investors of REITs by nature of the classification of dividends. Dividends can be classified as cap gains or return of capital due to depreciation. The other benefit of REITs it that right now many of them are trading significantly below the underlying value of their holdings. Just look at AMH/INVH, if you take the market value of their homes minus their debts, they're trading at like a 30-40% discount.
Covered call ETFs aren't a "bad" investment per se, but they really only function well in a sideways market. You really should understand how they work, ideally by placing a fee CCs yourself that have ended positively and negatively to really grasp their limitations. Basically upside is always limited, downside is not. You want the market to go sideways so your capital is preserved and you just collect premium. There is real income, but it requires specific market conditions. Not something you can really set and forget. Agreed on REITs tho it is important to recognize they aren't going to give you qualified dividends, so you pay a larger tax bill on them. For income focused index funds there's also stuff like SCHD and SCHY which follow the dividend aristocrats US/Ex-US. An alternative for reits that is worth exploring is real estate syndications, but they lock up your money for potentially a long time before you start getting returns. But you get all the benefits of a REIT plus since you actually own property you get capital gains, get depreciation, and the ability to do a 1031 exchange. There are higher barriers to entry (qualified/sophisticated investor). Bonds aren't necessarily bad either. Something like SGOV gives you monthly ROI, and is tax free. Mini bond funds for your state are likely the same, but probably have a lower ROI.
Personally, I'd go a different route and pick individual stocks. My reasoning is I can achieve higher returns than if I'd pick an ETF or a REIT which will give mid to high single digits returns. Those are good but I'd like to beat the market and not be average. If you want to be conservative and low risk profile investing in an s&p500 index will do it for most investors. Warren Buffet and Jack Boggle are advocating this for decades. I'd follow their advice if that is what you're essentially looking for. Good luck.
I’m up 5.28% YTD. Good percentage of my portfolio was leveraged into a REIT that is up nearly 15% YTD. The rest of my portfolio is tech and all down. Also supplement with selling options.
I thought the same thing; it's very tempting to sell, but my long-term strategy is to have high dividend stocks be the anchors of my portfolio with growth stocks and commodities that can be rotated more often. Ideally, I'd like to rotate my bank holdings to high dividend stocks from banged up sectors; perhaps REIT? I've also been looking at MSFT and INTU for growth stocks.
With all the red in my port, tomorrow I'm angling toward some frozen assets. Good luck everyone. Americold Realty Trust (COLD) — Due Diligence Date: March 12, 2026 | Price: $11.28 | 52-Week Range: $10.38 – $21.88 Company Overview Americold is the world's largest publicly traded REIT focused on temperature-controlled warehouses. They operate cold storage facilities for food producers, processors, distributors, and retailers — essentially the infrastructure backbone of the cold food supply chain. Market cap \~$3.2B, listed on NYSE. The Setup COLD is trading 48% below its 52-week high and near its 52-week low of $10.38. The stock has been in freefall for the past year, driven by a combination of operational headwinds and broader REIT sector weakness. Analyst consensus targets sit at $14.38–$14.85, implying 28–32% upside from current levels. Why It's Cheap Occupancy pressure: Economic occupancy fell to 76.1% in 2025, with throughput pallets declining 4.3%. Customers are signaling flat net sales with volumes down low-to-mid single digits for most of 2026. Pricing headwinds: Revenue per pallet is expected to decline 100–200 basis points in 2026 due to competitive dynamics and a supply glut in U.S. forward distribution nodes. Guidance step-down: 2026 AFFO guided at $1.20–$1.30/share, down from $1.43 in 2025. Management is explicitly guiding for economic occupancy flat to down as much as 300 basis points. Leverage: Net debt to core EBITDA sits at 6.8x — elevated for a REIT. Management is targeting below 6x, which likely means asset sales or joint ventures. Consumer weakness: Changes in consumer buying patterns, competitive new capacity, and lower food production volumes are all weighing on utilization. The Bull Case 1. Physical Moat Temperature-controlled warehouses are capital-intensive, slow to build, and highly specialized. You can't spin up a competitor overnight. There are only 2–3 players globally at Americold's scale. This isn't a commodity business — it's critical infrastructure with real barriers to entry. 2. Structural Shift to Fixed Contracts Approximately 60% of rent and storage revenues now come from fixed commitment contracts, up from under 40% previously. This is a meaningful de-risking of the revenue base — more predictable, less cyclical, higher retention. 3. Cost Restructuring Largely Complete $30M in annualized cost savings actions have been completed. An additional \~$50M in Project Orion transformation-related cash spend is expected to roll off in 2026. The company exited or idled 10 sites in 2025 (removing 22M+ cubic feet), with 9 more candidates for 2026 and 2 already closed in Q1. 4. Services Margin Improvement Services margin hit nearly 14% in Q4 2025, with full-year margin at 12.7% — up approximately 1,000 basis points over two years. This is a real operational improvement story, not just financial engineering. 5. Management Confidence Despite posting an $88M net loss and guiding for a down year, management raised the dividend 5%. That signals confidence in underlying cash flow sustainability. 6. Institutional Buying at These Levels Rush Island Management initiated a new $37.7M position (2,928,659 shares) in Q4 2025, per SEC filing dated February 17, 2026. Someone with real capital is making a concentrated bet at roughly these prices. 7. Supply Chain Tailwinds In an environment of geopolitical disruption and supply chain stress, cold storage infrastructure becomes more critical, not less. Food logistics is non-discretionary — people need to eat, and perishable supply chains don't have workarounds. 8. International Diversification International assets in Europe and Asia Pacific are performing "well and in line with expectations." The supply glut is primarily a U.S. problem — the global business provides a floor. The Bear Case • 2026 is a transition year. Guidance is for declining revenue per pallet and potentially declining occupancy. The stock could grind lower before it turns. \[3/12/26 7:15 PM\] RobbyRo\_bot: • Leverage needs to come down. 6.8x is uncomfortable. Deleveraging via asset sales could dilute upside if executed at unfavorable terms. • Competitive capacity overhang. New cold storage supply was built during the post-COVID logistics boom. That excess needs to be absorbed. • Consumer spending risk. If the macro deteriorates further, food volumes could decline more than guided. • AFFO guidance doesn't include asset sales. The deleveraging strategy depends on transactions that aren't yet in the forecast — execution risk is real. Valuation • Current Price: $11.28 • Dividend Yield: \~5.5% (quarterly, recently raised 5%) • 2025 AFFO: $1.43/share • 2026 AFFO Guidance: $1.20–$1.30/share • Price/2026 AFFO: 8.7x–9.4x • Analyst Target (consensus): $14.38–$14.85 • Implied Upside to Consensus: 28–32% • Net Debt/EBITDA: 6.8x (targeting <6x) At \~9x forward AFFO for a company with a physical moat, improving margins, and a floor under it from real assets, this looks cheap even accounting for the headwinds. Q4 2025 Earnings Highlights (reported Feb 19, 2026) • AFFO: $0.38/share for Q4, $1.43 full year — "slightly ahead of expectations" • Economic occupancy up 280bps sequentially in Q4 • Services revenue per pallet +2.4%, storage revenue per pallet +0.3% • Year-over-year growth in NOI and EBITDA in Q4 • Physical occupancy considered "stabilized" • Closed $250M term loan, addressed $200M Series A maturity • 4 development projects on time and on budget (Fort St. John, DFW, Christchurch, Sydney) • 2026 same-store NOI guided at $735M–$785M; total company NOI at $780M–$845M Options Strategy Consideration COLD has an active options chain. For investors looking to enter: • Selling cash-secured puts at or near the money offers a way to get paid while waiting for assignment at a lower effective cost basis • Covered calls after acquiring shares can generate additional monthly income on top of the 5.5% dividend yield • The wheel strategy (sell puts → get assigned → sell calls → get called away → repeat) is well-suited for a stock trading near its low with elevated implied volatility • Check bid/ask spreads at market open — smaller REITs can have wider spreads that eat into premium Summary COLD is a beaten-down infrastructure REIT with real physical assets, a defensible moat, and improving operational execution — trading near its 52-week low at a single-digit multiple to forward AFFO. The bear case is about near-term cyclical headwinds. The bull case is that these are temporary, the cost restructuring is real, the contract shift provides stability, and the stock is priced for a worst-case that may not materialize. Smart money is buying at these levels. Risk level: Moderate. The assets are real and don't go to zero. Downside from here is "it stays cheap and you collect 5.5%." Upside is 30–50%+ on a recovery toward analyst targets or historical multiples. ─── Research compiled March 12, 2026. This is not financial advice.
The 2022 nontraded REIT gating playbook is running almost exactly here. In November 2022 Blackstone's BREIT hit its 2% monthly redemption gate with $4.5B in requests. Retail tried to exit first, institutional waited, gates got extended, and NAV marks got quietly revised downward. The tell is when the gate percentage gets cut a second time. First gate is usually a warning. Second gate is when the mark-to-model vs mark-to-market gap in the loan book starts catching up.
AVUV/AVDV is expensive compared to the passive small cap funds. IJR for US small cap has an expense ratio of only 0.06% vs 0.25% and SCHC for international is only 0.08% vs 0.36%. You're also pretty correlated, might want to, definitely don't need to, add an uncorrelated asset like a corporate bond ETF or REIT. Other than that you're pretty safe.
I’d like to start expanding my portfolio and add some non tech related stuff. Explain to me REIT? I don’t have much knowledge in that other than what I just read but curious to hear it from another source.
So whoever can tell me how to short the s*** out of this sucker wins a prize: "The Dubai Residential REIT (listed on DFM in 2025) is the primary, large-scale, Shariah-compliant, residential-focused REIT in the GCC, offering exposure to over 35,000 residential units in Dubai with an expected yield of 7.7%. It is a major, high-quality, income-generating vehicle backed by Dubai Holding."
Look into asset class diversification. You always have to choose between maxing returns and preserving wealth. You can’t do both. Asset class diversification means you own all the major asset classes even though some are doing well and some are not because you want to already own those poor ones someday when they are needed. VASGX gets you four cheap asset classes in one ticker. For your savings, three months in cash emergency fund and the rest in gold. Gold is an asset class that most people are missing. You don’t need much, build up to 5 or 10% of your portfolio over time and it will double as the deep end of your emergency fund. You can add in a REIT fund and a dividend fund like SCHD if you really want to diversify further. This is the key to not being anxious. You are insured when you diversify. Will you max returns? Nope. Will it grow tons? Yep. Spent a little extra time on this one because my son is your age. Good luck.
Can people young people or even financially irresponsible adults afford to buy homes right now in the US? Nah. So it's sounding smart right now to invest in REITs and REIT etf's. Who knows. But I see apartment buildings going up left and right, here in Connecticut. Commercial property will be even more expensive. I'd rather not be a landlord either. Ain't nobody got time for that nonsense.
Data center is REIT. If you make an extra penny more than the interest you paid. More competitor will join the business.
Well…I don’t know about “reliable” anything these days with big mouth DT soiling everything…my “reliables” are TQQQ at over 1000% profit, Apple, Oracle, NVDA (even now…I am at 47% profit), AMZN, FZROX, pharma stock, REIT’s and such…I never get to pay any income taxes
I think the absurd capex from the mag7. If you look at the tenancy for a REIT like, say, Digital Realty and compare their customer concentration from 2015 to today you’ll see a growth in diversity. Mag7 are the cool kids that wear the baggy pants first, and then six months later all the other kids pick up the trend. Obviously, I understand using a fashion example probably also confirms the thought process of investors.
MCD is a REIT with a restaurant side hustle. Invest accordingly.
An idea here, something I hold that others might be interested in, and quite different to what normally comes up on wsb. UK based REIT, Unite Group, it dropped 15% today and it was already pretty much the cheapest big/quality REIT in the UK REIT sector. They do student accom in university towns across the UK. Yield is quite high and well supported by earnings. Debt is low (<30% LTV). NAV/share is almost 2x the stock price, which is remarkable. I hold some. They're doing buybacks too, about 8% of daily volume is buybacks I believe. Kind of a property/value/quality/AI-proof ex-US play. Last time it was at these levels (Dec 2025) it bounced almost 20% up in the following 6 weeks. There's not really much new 'news' in the final results that came out today, the market was warned upfront in Oct/Dec/Jan trading statements that 2026 would be a tricky year because of a bid they made to buy up a smaller competitor. Tax issues might be a concern or problem for non UK residents though. Worth looking into the tax stuff if you're interested in this one.
An idea here, something I hold that others might be interested in, and quite different to what normally comes up on wsb. UK based REIT, Unite Group, it dropped 15% today and it was already pretty much the cheapest big/quality REIT in the UK REIT sector. They do student accom in university towns across the UK. Yield is quite high and well supported by earnings. Debt is low (<30% LTV). NAV/share is almost 2x the stock price, which is remarkable. I hold some. Yield is monstrous. They're doing buybacks too, about 10% of daily volume is buybacks. Kind of a property/value/quality/AI-proof ex-US play. Last time it was at these levels (Dec 2025) it bounced almost 20% up in the following 6 weeks. There's not really much new 'news' in the final results that came out today, the market was warned upfront in Oct/Dec/Jan trading statements that 2026 would be a tricky year because of a bid they made to buy up a smaller competitor. Tax issues might be a concern or problem for non UK residents though. Worth looking into the tax stuff if you're interested in this one.
I hear you on low-fee REIT EFTs, that's a big advantage. What I found interesting with Fundrise is how it gives retail investors access to private real estate deals with small minimums. But maybe I just need to get more information before considering.
I haven't heard of it, tbh. I just have a REIT ETF and if you own your own house, then you're heavily invested in real estate already. Just make sure you read the fine print and make sure you understand fully what you're getting yourself into. REIT ETFs have no brokerage fees and expense ratios are like .03%, so I would not go with them if they are any more expensive than that.m
I hit a similar wall with ETFs last year. If you want to get away from market volatility entirely, Fundrise is probably the easiest entry point for private real estate. It’s not a REIT that trades on the NYSE, so it doesn't tank just because the S&P 500 had a bad day. Another one I’ve been looking at is Masterworks for art, though it’s a much longer play. Just a heads-up, the catch with both is liquidity. You can't just click sell and get your cash instantly like you can with an ETF, so only put in money you don't need for a few years.
It really depends. You can look at factor investing two ways. One is going after risk premiums. Small stocks grow more than large stocks, cheap stocks grow more than expensive stocks. For maximum growth you would just put your whole portfolio into small cap value funds, probably from Avantis or Dimensional as they consider all 5 of the factors in fund construction. However, these types of stocks are riskier and holding this portfolio would be extremely uncomfortable. So maybe you want to hold 50% of these funds and 50% normal total market funds. Or 70/30. Whatever you can stomach. Paul Merriman recommends a portfolio that is 10% each of US total market, US small cap value, US large cap value, US small cap blend, US REIT, International total market, International small cap value, International large cap value, International small cap blend, Emerging Markets. Another strategy he recommends is using only a US small cap value fund and a target retirement date fund, and he has a whole glide path where you start 100% in US small cap value and add the target date fund as you age till you reach retirement and are fully in the target date fund. He has a book on this strategy called 2 Funds for Life. Another way to look at it is diversifying sources of risk. You aren't going after the highest returns necessarily but are taking advantage of the fact that risk associated with market beta, size, value, momentum, etc has some amount of non-correlation to each other. Larry Swedroe is a big proponent of this, he's written multiple books and given many talks on the subject. His strategy involves types of risk outside of just market risk though, is heavy on bonds and even uses things like interval funds to take on illiquidity risk and reinsurance funds to take on insurance risk.
Which contradicts your post, because with the exception of Office reits(which trade at very cheap valuations), REITs fit the definition of "hard asset, low obscelescence" more than any other industry. I mean, even datacenter REITs like DLR and EQIX have gone nowhere the past 1-5 years, even as datacenter demand has been skyrocketing. I can definitely see a lot of opportunity in the REIT space right now.
REIT are definitely not participating. Real Estate is in the penalty box completely
It is a REIT. You are looking a dividend yield, and hopefully a bit of appreciation. Best comparison probably would be a reit like SPG or MAC.
Take a look at equivalents in the Triple-Net (NNN) Lease and Gaming REIT sectors. Keep in mind REITs are not measured by Net Income or standard FCF. Instead they're measured by AFFO (Adjusted Funds From Operations). GLPI is a good VICI comparison, or O (Realty Income)
In the most significant scenario for AI, I tend to wonder whether there will be some degree of industrial area revitalization and deterioration of cities. Office values already cratered since 2020, but it seems like things have stabilized a bit recently. If AI continues to rapidly evolve, perhaps the decline starts up again - look at the NYC office reits like VNO and SLG falling below April 2025 lows lately. BXP close, but that's still well below 2020 highs. How much office exposure does BX - almost back to 2025 lows - have? Yet, industrial/warehouse REIT PLD is up 7.5% YTD.
SPY +1.8% YTD SCHH (REIT etf) +9% YTD what. the. fuck.
Going going to post some weekend research for the degens. All I study is price action on the one hour charts I think they can be used to trade options and stock with 1000% as an edge. One hour chart show the momentum from the microstructure regime of the underlying price action. Using trend lines and some basic book learning, you can easily spot situations on major indices or stocks where they basically automatically go up the next day or for the next 2/4 days. Go look at a 1H price chart, and find an instance where price opens inside the 20 EMA during pre market. If it’s inside the 20 EMA and 50 EMA…it’s a rocket ship at open. Example AMT recently, a REIT…..last Monday. Opened inside the 20 / 50 EMA on the 1H chart Monday morning. Went up +11% and 4 strikes Monday to Friday . A fucking REIT went parabolic and can be traded with a 1H chart. That exact same pattern is everywhere. $0.7 Feb 20 $185 call sold for $8.3 NBIS Friday opened inside the 20/50 EMA on the 1H , went up +9%. QQQ last Friday and Monday on the 1H charts. Friday to Monday went up like +3% if you held. Each day opened inside the 20 EMA and then the 20/50 EMA.
All I study is price action on the one hour charts I think they can be used to trade options with 1000%. One hour chart show the momentum from thr microstructure regime of the underlying price action. Using trend lines and some basic book learning, you can easily spot situations on major indices or stocks where they basically automatically go up the next day or for the next 2/4 days. Go look at a 1H price chart, and find an instance where price opens inside the 20 EMA during pre market. If it’s inside the 20 EMA and 50 EMA…it’s a rocket ship at open. Example AMT recently, a REIT…..last Monday. Opened inside the 20 / 50 EMA on the 1H chart Monday morning. Went up +11% and 4 strikes Monday to Friday . A fucking REIT went parabolic and can be traded with a 1H chart. That exact same pattern is everywhere
I found this in yahoo finance. Capital allocation and the dividend are under review amid an upcoming refinancing and covenant considerations; the company says it’s in compliance with lenders, expects to refinance a maturity at modestly higher rates, and will decide on dividend changes after the strategic evaluation I owned a stock like this before, as I was blinded by a high dividend yield. Basically same words. Restructuring, debt covenants and strategic evaluation. It was such a messy ride man. I still own that stock in question and I'm above breakeven but so much drama about covenants,bondbolders, dividend got cancelled, stock got crushed ... but this company is REIT so its much higher risk than flower foods. Just handing my experience to you. If they say restructuring then it sounds like that dividend will have to be cut to prioritise maybe debt coverage etc .
Can someone explain why this would cause tree REIT O to be up >2% today?
100% I got out of all of these utility, REIT, and consumer staple stocks that are now soaring, about a month ago. Finally broke even. It was a full year of negative FACTUAL stories so I have no fucking clue why they're going to the moon I guess facts don't matter either and if the facts don't matter, why didn't any Analyst predict a bubble in consumer staples?
KULR Should Sell Its Bitcoin and Go All-In on AI Data Center Battery Infrastructure I’m long KULR. I like the tech. I like the space pedigree. I even understand the logic behind the Bitcoin treasury strategy. But I’m starting to think it’s time for KULR to seriously consider selling a large portion (or all) of its Bitcoin and redeploying that capital into battery backup infrastructure for AI data centers. Here’s why. 1. The Market Is Valuing AI Infrastructure Higher Than BTC Treasury Exposure Look at what’s happening across the industry: AI compute demand is exploding. Data centers are power constrained. Grid stability is becoming mission critical. Backup power and battery storage are no longer “nice to have” — they’re existential. Meanwhile, public markets are rewarding companies with direct exposure to AI infrastructure far more consistently than companies holding digital assets on their balance sheet. Even companies like Riot Platforms and IREN have started pivoting toward AI data centers. That’s not random. That’s capital markets signaling where value is migrating. KULR already has the core competency: high-performance battery systems designed for extreme environments. That translates directly to high-reliability BBU (battery backup unit) systems for AI-scale facilities. Why stay half-in on Bitcoin when the real structural growth is in AI power infrastructure? 2. Bitcoin Is Volatile. AI Power Demand Is Structural. Bitcoin may go up. It may go down. It’s unpredictable over short-to-medium horizons. But AI power demand? That’s locked in. Companies like NVIDIA are effectively selling out high-performance GPUs as fast as they can manufacture them. Hyperscalers are racing to build capacity. Power availability is the bottleneck. AI clusters need: Instant failover High-density energy storage Thermal management Compliance (UL 9540/9540A, etc.) Modular scalability This is literally where KULR’s DNA lives. Instead of defending a BTC position, why not fund: Manufacturing expansion for BBUs Data center partnerships Pilot deployments UL-certified scalable modules AI-specific energy storage architecture That’s recurring revenue infrastructure. Not a balance sheet asset. 3. The Narrative Shift Could Re-rate the Stock Right now, KULR gets lumped into: “Battery safety” “Small cap BTC treasury” “Speculative hybrid” But imagine this headline instead: “KULR Exits Bitcoin Treasury Strategy to Fund Scalable AI Data Center Battery Infrastructure Platform” That’s a completely different investor base. You go from crypto-adjacent capital to: AI infrastructure funds Energy storage investors Data center REIT-adjacent capital Institutional infrastructure allocators The multiple expansion potential there is materially different. 4. Capital Allocation Is Strategy Holding Bitcoin is passive. Building AI infrastructure is active. One compounds if BTC rises. The other compounds through: Contracts Multi-year supply agreements Embedded energy systems Replacement cycles Service revenue If KULR truly believes in its battery architecture and thermal management IP, deploying capital into owned infrastructure or long-term BBU contracts creates durable enterprise value. Bitcoin doesn’t create customer relationships. Battery infrastructure does. 5. This Doesn’t Have to Be All or Nothing Maybe the answer isn’t “sell all BTC tomorrow.” But reallocating a significant portion into: AI-focused BBU manufacturing scale Joint ventures with data center operators On-site storage + resiliency packages Telecom and edge compute backup solutions …feels more aligned with where secular growth is heading. Final Thought Bitcoin might go to $200K. Maybe higher. But AI compute demand is already here. Power constraints are already here. Data center bottlenecks are already here. If I’m KULR management, I ask: Are we trying to be a Bitcoin holding company… Or are we trying to be a critical infrastructure provider in the AI era? Because the market will likely reward one of those more consistently than the other. Curious what everyone else thinks.
Research ETFs and Index investing , set it and forget it. You are are18 years old, Penny stocks are basically gambling for you!!! that 1845$ could go to zero if fully invested in penny stocks. Look into SCHD ,VTI, VOO, REIT, bonds (BND) and diversify with like international ETF. You can also buy some individual stocks like HOOD, BE, PLTR, RBLX, Apple, Amazon, or Microsoft. Pepsi, KO, Solid business. forget about the bubble , market will adjust and correct eventually..... You could also consider Joby or Archer if you’re interested in emerging technology, but only after doing proper research. They’re still speculative, but way better than whatever you’re doing with penny stocks. For the love of God or the universe, whatever you believe in , sell your penny stocks and invest accordingly. With your high-yield savings account already in place, you can focus this account on growth ETFs and index funds instead.
What a rollercoast this year. Been buying and selling the ups and downs of my RWT REIT. Bought another 200 shares and a few $6 March calls and WOWSA, little did I realize their earnings report yesterday was record profits... with interest rates potentially being lowered, I see RWT up to $8-9 in no time. Shoulda coulda woulda bought more
What REIT is holding the mortgage on the Mall of America?
It appears that most gold etf such as (GLD) would not be considered compliant with AAOIFI standards. iShares MSCI World Islamic (ISWD) is a global equity market cap weighted index fund that screens companies for being Shariah-compliant SP Funds Dow Jones Global Sukuk ETF (SPSK) holds Islamic Bonds that are structured to avoid interest. Provided that a REIT doesn’t use excessively high leverage, rental income from most publicly traded REITs would be considered Shariah compliant because 1) it’s payment for usufruct (use of an asset) and 2) doesn’t accrue interest.
Nexus REIT... bleh man.. why.. its payout ratio is so high compared to other REITs like NET-UN (QSR/Gas/Retail REIT).
A Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) is a company that owns, operates, or finances income-producing real estate, allowing individual investors to buy shares and earn a share of the income from large-scale properties.
My boring ass REIT is the only thing in my port that is green today Rip bull anus. And mine too
Cash and land purchases. No index tracks land purchases except some REIT.
Can you buy a dumpster for $1k? Maybe with a co-signer? I'm seeing an opportunity for an entrepreneur - form a REIT buying dumpsters, and renting them out behind Wendy's. Hell, maybe franchise them as well as renting. You've clearly got your finger on the pulse of your potential customers. You'll be Emperor of Tendies in no time.
Good first year, looking good! You've probably considered this, as you talked about keeping a cash position in REIT's and bond ETF's for an income earning cash-position, but the main thing I'd be cautious about is a market wide down turn if you have too much capital tied up with CSPs and assigned positions. Not a problem in a bull market, but a sharp market wide drop followed by a down trend could leave much of your capital positioned where you can't profitably sell CC's above your cost-average for long periods of time. At that point you have to wait for it to stabilize near a local bottom and hope it's a good time to average down or, 1. have a much smaller amount of income generating capital as you hold your stock picks through a bear market. So you really want to make sure the majority of your holdings are going to be something you will hold if it's down 30% in your portfolio one day. 2. Be willing to selling CC's where you might be realizing increasingly large losses. 3. Choosing a point to realize losses out right selling in favor of cash position. This is the one that tends to really damage Trading Portfolios and potentially walk back years of compounding returns. I do like most of the tickers you listed (besides UNH and LULU) for long-term investing though. Thanks for sharing in such detail! Yeah other markets; commodities, crypto, futures, metals, currency etc can wreck you if you're not familiar. I mostly stick with equities simply because I understand that market best and have had some singed fingers in the past as well lol. Little curious if you remember what happened in February? I understand you we're probably just finding your feet Trading with real money, just curious on what happened/lessons learned?
Everyone going to be red except Berkshire and REIT’s.
At least with a REIT you can sell property in one day
Its called stabilized net operating income, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it if you work for a REIT.
Brother I work for a REIT. I know the math. Please show me the calculation for using occupancy rate to derive market price. I'll wait while you realize there isn't any.
Don't sleep on RE. Here's my thinking on that. 1. The number of people in the world: up. (it fluctuates now and then, but generally over recorded history, this is true.) 2. The amount of land in the world: constant. 3. People need somewhere to live. 4. Historically, landowners have always had power, especially during times of unrest and economic uncertainty (as long as the government doesn't just take it from you). In some way shape or form, owning land provides that power. 5. In the end, if shit goes south, I've got enough property to grow my own food, make my own electricity, pump my own water, and raise my own livestock. It's a bit of prepper mentality; through the ages this has always resulted in some amount of personal freedom, except this time, with guns. 6. As always, the three L's will always apply to real property. If you get the 3 L's right, given enough time, its value will always increase faster than currencies devalue, and in some cases by quite a bit. I'm not necessarily talking about a homestead, but it certainly applies. If you can't afford to buy real property outright, REIT's can work too.
they did a pretty good report on iron mountain REIT a while back
TL;DR full port into REIT and precious metal calls for 2027 and bring home millions.
Hi, the pivot to India (specifically Excon Bangalore) is a strategic move to lower the risk from the Chinese property sector. India is spending billions on green infrastructure right now, and RETO already has the REIT equipment ready for that market.
Check out AHR, it’s a REIT that focuses on senior housing and other senior medical services, in the US and the UK. With people living longer it’s seems like a good bet. I own a small position in my Roth.
If you dont own any real estate you can invest some in a REIT (real estate investment trust) to further diversify
Anyone who tells you which are the best is guessing. Investing is gambling. Big Index ETF are a good choice for long term investment. All the big firms have ETF in each of the categories. These are some Vanguard funds. Real estate backed ETF: - VNQ US real estate REIT - VNQI Global real estate excluding the US Stock ETF - VOO S&P 500 - VT Global total market - VXUS Global total market except for US Do your research.
here’s my allocation: 25.81% 7.66% 30.29% 27.31% 8.94% fixed. cash. US. ex-US. other: Gold, BTC, REIT It’s been working great until yesterday.
It’s not only about the US…it’s about sector rotations and having almost no upside…and even bigger currency downside… Single Stocks will be difficult and a lot peaked while not having positive Data to support it… It’s time to sell volatility, at the end of a cycle and create cheap cash, to re-invest, while Bonds also get you 4-6% and euro bonds are favored. Setting at trailing lose at -20% does compare how to a 10-12% yield from covered calls? Also as an europe investor -20% and -5-10% FX will add up, selling doesn’t protect from FX. Broad income to wait for the dip, active mangement to keep up and quality stock picking. I got out during the last few months of China, REIT’s, hedge funds and S&P Dividend Stocks an rolled it into income, now got 0.75% monthly payout and can wait for the dip, like yesterday where i can deploy cash..
You're far too conservative as a 36 years old. I would recommend looking at an amalgamation of bitcoin, gold, foreign index, and REIT's for your 40%. As far as tolerating market volatility, the answer is not what you think, it's spiritual. You have to cease seeing the 401k as something you control and turn it over to your higher power. If you believe, you will be rewarded. You won't worry about which way the wind blows because you just know.
VOO, QQQ, REIT and some high quality bonds, dividend ETFs or VXUS
REIT divs are generally taxed as ordinary income.
I'm invested in a REIT fund investing in my state that generates 9% dividends. It obviously carried *some* risk and isn't guaranteed forever but that's one path. Maybe a bit optimistic seeking 7% without any risk but at 29 everyone should be open to at least a little risk, especially short term risk.
I've found some C shares of a REIT paying 9% dividends. I'm putting 1/3-1/2 of my savings for a future home in that as a good interest income and a hedge against my local housing market, as the REIT is in my state specifically. You can get CDs to generate around 3.5-4%. I think 7% is pretty doable, maybe slightly optimistic without taking *any* risk.
Having read your comments, I’d go maybe WMT, JPM and maybe a REIT? Stuff not tech related
I personally like REITs for this reason. I look for companies with little debt so if interest rates climb, they arent struggling to pay their debts (over leveraged) with good revenue, profit margins, etc. If I have a REIT paying 6% a year in dividends and the stock price is in the red 6% then I am technically even if there is no change to the price in a year. If the price increases 6% then I am in the green 12%. REITs have historically out performed the sp500 (and so has gold for almost half of the last 50 years). The stock price tends to be more predictable with REITs too. There are regular price swings up and down that seem to be easier to predict IMO. Take APLE for example, they own 109 hotels and lease the hotels, mostly to Hilton, and pay you a cut of the profits in order to get tax advantages over other companies. Dividends sitting around 8% now with little debt and good cash flow.
I would add that APLD could become a REIT with very high potential for distributing profits to shareholders.
Structure the purchase as an REIT and sell shares in a Greenland IPO. Simple really.
Idk VOO is not what it used to be. You think you're diversifying but its not what you think. You're actually over 1/3rd in tech. Thats similar to the dot com bubble days. VTI is more diverse since its all the stocks. I think today you should also consider commodities, crypto, and REIT etc, possible hedges against the USD to truly diversify
Main issue is where they draw the line between “normal investing” and “financialized bulk buying.” If they target entities above a unit or dollar threshold, homebuilders selling to end buyers (DR Horton, Lennar, even custom builders like Schumacher Homes) and small landlords/house flippers likely get carved out. The fight will be over LLCs and REIT-style structures that hoard hundreds of doors in one metro; expect loopholes via partner funds and JV shells unless they ban ownership at the fund/beneficial-owner level, not just the titled entity.
Investing in real estate or a business is a job. These aren't passive investments. Anyone who claims real estate is a passive investment is lying to you, there's nothing passive about it unless you're talking about a REIT. I personally have zero interest in being a landlord or being directly involved in someone else's small business. That being said, I earned a high income in my career and retired early because I was investing a significant amount of money outside of my 401k. Except, I did max out my 401k and invested everything left in taxable brokerage accounts. My taxable accounts are worth about 4x what my retirement accounts are.
Running your picks through the data: **Price Position:** | Stock | Price | 52w Low | 52w High | Above Low | |:--|:--|:--|:--|:--| | NBN | $106.75 | $49.07 | $117.66 | +118% | | MU | $339.55 | $61.81 | $343.95 | +449% | | OHI | $45.14 | $27.54 | $46.36 | +64% | | UHS | $208.39 | $150.12 | $245.92 | +39% | **Quarterly Financials (Latest):** | Stock | Revenue | Net Margin | Trend | |:--|:--|:--|:--| | NBN | $80M | 26.7% | Stable | | MU | $13.64B | **38.4%** | Up from -26% in Q1'24 | | OHI | $310M | **57.7%** | Improving | | UHS | $4.5B | 8.3% | Stable | **Your thesis validation:** 1. **NBN** - You said "strong earnings growth, low P/E." Margin is solid (26.7%), but stock already doubled from 52w low. 2. **OHI** - REIT with 57.7% margins. Only +64% above 52w low - hasn't fully run yet. Your thesis checks out. 3. **MU** - Your call on "RAM bottleneck for AI" is playing out. Margin went from -26% (Q1'24) to +38% (Q4'25). Near 52w high now. 4. **UHS** - Healthcare exposure with 8% margins, stable. Conservative pick but only +39% above low. **Best "value" left:** UHS at +39% and OHI at +64% above lows vs. MU at +449%.
You realize that Blackrock has $10 trillion in assets but only a $166 billion market cap because they don't actually own those $10 trillion in assets, right? They have no claim to the earnings of those companies because they are asset managers, not owners of these companies. Blackrock "owns" 6% of Apple, but when Apple pays a dividend, they keep none of it and pass it along to the actual owners which are their clients made up of individuals like you and me or institutional investors. Blackrock doesn't make money from investing, but from collecting management fees for other investors. If I personally spend $1,000,000 investing in a REIT fund with Blackrock that holds companies that buy single family homes, is that an institution investor buying these companies, or is it me? Furthermore, I still don't personally own any of the underlying assets of the companies that the fund holds, so it's just factually incorrect to say that by spending $1,000,000 on a Blackrock REIT fund that I am buying up single family homes.
It happens. It’s just regulatory capture. You’ll have to be a Landlord/REIT or something. There will be house size loopholes. He will make someone sell 100 houses at a discount to make a show of it.
A 2% yielding REIT that has 70% gains in the last 12 months. Healthcare focused, humans won't stop getting sick!
ARCC is an REIT that has paid 9%+ the past 10years.
A REIT that focuses on gaming/casinos. Has tenants like MGM, Ceasars entertainment, etc…
"I hope my posting doesn't feel cheap, because I used AI to help me formulate it." No, that wasn't an issue and you used ai to *help* formulate it. The issue I have with AI is that you get all of these threads with clickbait titles which - why do you need people to click so badly and it makes the sub look like a terrible blog some days. People just wanting to talk their bags up which is a lot of what this sub has become. If someone uses AI in part to fill out a thoughtful discussion of a stock/do research okay, but a lot of it seems like "ChatGPT, make a case for (fill in the blank stock) and really sell it." "Sorry if this subreddit is not the same for you as it was once... " I think it's investing discussion on Reddit in general, although it's more an issue here. It's less back-and-forth discussion and people looking to learn (I'm older and I'm still looking to learn/believe investing is a continual learning experience), it's more everyone talking their book - and so many people's books look like variations of one another. There are so many threads that have "clickbait" titles now, thanks to AI - which also wrote the post. People are more looking to dunk on each other than ever before, which I think over the long-term leads to gradually less and less discussion. People don't want to hear even constructive criticism anymore even when they ask for what people think - in so many instances saying something even neutral about a stock seems equivalent to talking bad about one's favorite sports team. It's not "growth stocks bad" either - I'm not coming from the perspective of a value investor or something - but there's really become almost a Reddit hivemind portfolio of a dozen or two popular names and there seems to be this reluctance to look beyond that. Some of the best growth stocks in the last couple of years I've rarely seen mentioned on here. Instead, there's so much "collect em all" and discussion about Mag 7 names every day. I turned off CNBC years ago, if I wanted discussion of the most household names only and not much beyond that I could go back to watching that. There was always a focus on whatever the most popular couple dozen stocks are at any given time, but in recent years it feels like that's the majority of discussion. Reddit used to be more about idea generation, now it increasingly feels like people just copying from the list of most commonly discussed Reddit names at any given time. Sometimes people think they need an income name and if someone logged every time a REIT has been mentioned in the last 5 years or so on here you'd probably get Realty Income/O mentioned 90-95% of the time. Something gets mentioned enough on here, people don't want to research to see what else is out there and just copy each other. "investing strategies/philosophies?" There's really primarily been one strategy on here for a little over 5 years and it's only gone more in that direction in the last couple years. Anyone doing anything even moderately different/interesting is a joy to find but also seems like it gets little/no response. "lol yeah... But would be kind of the point of the platform... people might get a reality check, when seeing how difficult it is to estimate uncertainty." That's fair, you're right. Also, I don't know why this thread was taken down. Thanks for the reply.